MSNBC Contributor: Women with early access to birth control make more money

Rush is right. The Democrats are trying to resurrect the war on women to distract from how terrible Obama has been doing in the last couple of weeks. And in this example, Sharpton has on woman who is trying to justify insurance-mandated birth control by suggesting women will make more money (read not have children) if they have ‘early access’ to birth control (via Townhall):



The funny thing is they already have ‘early access’ to birth control. Hello Wal-Mart! Hello Target!

Also, isn’t it interesting that in this false argument lies the assumption that people are just going to make bad choices? Sure they won’t say that so blatantly, but isn’t that the implicit argument here, that women are just going to have sex and end up with babies that keep them from being successful?

Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Why must I subsidize the bad behavior of someone else?

Santorum is right that the decline of the family unit has lead to this and that is exactly where the country needs to look to begin to solve these problems. Not by mandating that I buy women birth control.

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giomerica
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giomerica

…another reason why the left hate Sarah Palin so much. Her 5 kids haven’t prevented her from living life on HER terms and enjoying great success.

It just sickens me how the media pick up and run with these non issues when the country is in real turmoil.

NCHokie02
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NCHokie02

Who doesn’t have access to birth control? What woman have you ever heard say “If only I had birth control I wouldn’t be pregnant. But I just can’t get any.” None. Everyone has access. Now why am I forced to pay for it???

Whatever your reason, don’t fall asleep on me girl, why should I pay for it? If you believe that you’ll make more money 20 or 30 years later by taking this pill then fine….but YOU PAY FOR IT. Idiot.

Cindy O'Connor
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Cindy O'Connor

What about learning NFP??? Learn how your body works, work with your body, not against it. Delay children naturally, not with chemicals or rubber or copper or plastic. Be fully human – learn how to control yourself and your instincts, don’t let them control you like wild animals do. Empower yourself to know your body, don’t be a slave to big pharma. Be green, don’t pollute your body, your future children, or the environment – reduce your carbon foot print. Modern methods of NFP are 98% effective!!!! No one seems to mention this in the debates.

kong1967
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kong1967

More straw man attacks. Trying to say that Republicans want to ban birth control or keep women from being able to get it. Snore. You libs should really get a new playbook….preferably one with a few facts in it.

SaraPFan
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SaraPFan

It’s about population control also. Not about women. These liberals really hate population growth. I applied for scholarships by submitting essays to nonprofit agencies. One agency was offering a scholarship and encouraged applicants to write an essay on ideas/idea on how to implement population control to save Earth.

WestGAFlash
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WestGAFlash

Liberals adore Margaret Sanger. Ever read any of the vile stuff she postulated?

Gawdawfull………..

kong1967
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kong1967

That makes perfect sense, but there is a flip side. They throw money at women to be baby factories on the government dime….errr, I should say OUR dime. This helps them because it’s a gauranteed vote if it’s a single mother that’s poor. There is a bad side to population growth if it’s all coming from poverty stricken families or single mothers. I knew a guy once that had five kids…ALL under five years old. He had a job that he didn’t show up to and they lived off welfare. I wanted to pop the guy in the mouth because his wife was a baby factory and we were paying for it. The reproductive rate is higher among welfare recipients than for everyone else. I’m all for having 20 kids if you have the money to support them, but the trend is that the people who have the money have… Read more »

SaraPFan
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SaraPFan

Listen I know the horror stories of welfare queens. We lived through it in the 80s and 90s. We’ve had welfare reform. The problem isn’t children. Children aren’t going to bring this country down. Democrats are. We’ve been having a spending debate with the Tea Party leading it since Obama was sworn in. We’ve been talking about cutting welfare programs for 3 years. 350 million dollars a year to Planned Parenthood isn’t diagnoising the problem, it’s inflating it. We wouldn’t have these occurences if Democrats get booted out of office. Get the welfare queens off welfare then government doesn’t have to concern themselves in how children people have a God given right to have.

kong1967
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kong1967

I hear you, but what do you do about a woman that has no father figure at home and keeps having babies? I knew a girl like that and she bragged about it (it was actually my wife’s friend). What happens to her five kids when you yank her off welfare?

Welfare encourages those types of women to be baby factories. Yet taking them off of welfare would be devastating to the kids because it’s not their fault they have a dead-beat mother.

In all honesty, I’m not smart enough to figure this one out without having devastating effects on society. My solution would be draconian and would never fly.

SaraPFan
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SaraPFan

It does appear you have a lot of growing to do. The Democrat party has a devasting effect on families. The social programs were purposefully designed to replace the father in the family. Planned Parenthood purposefully designed to proliferate out of wedlock pregrancies. Former directors have spoken out about Planned Parenthood encouraging risky sexual behaviour to foster future clients.

More women have lost their health coverage during the Obama than any time because of the loss of jobs. If Obama cares about contraceptives, he needs to implement pro-business policies so us women can pay for them.

kong1967
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kong1967

Lol, I have a lot of growing to do? For your information I’m going on 45 years old.

I agree with everything you’re saying and I know that liberalism is destroying the family and replacing the father with government. This needed to be prevented decades ago. But, we are here now.

My question is more about how you go about turning the tides in the opposite direction. I don’t think it can be done just by cutting them off. There has to be major changes in culture to go along with it….changes I would like to see. How we bring about that change is what I’m trying to get at. I don’t know how. Yeah, yeah, teach better values at home and school. Ok, how do you get society to do that?

SaraPFan
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SaraPFan

“A lot of growing to do” reference has nothing to do with age.

My initial response to this article was about how Democrats don’t really care about the prosperity of women. Their policies are a conduit to government control.

The Right Scoop posted the video clip of a caller calling Rush Limbaugh’s show. She survived the entitlement trap. It was April 5th.

To answer your question that conservatives have been saying since Reagon: We get a society to restore values by abolishing Democrat power and restore all that is good and true about America. That is sudden and relentless reform.

kong1967
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kong1967

That’s funny. I was going to mention that the first step is to defeating liberalism and keeping them out of power, but I didn’t want to keep adding to my post. Believe me, I don’t need to grow in what I assume you are insinuating as “intellectually”. I am totally with you on these issues and what liberalism has done to hurt society. It’s just that getting us back on track of strong family values as a nation instead of government being the sugar daddy is going to be a tough thing to accomplish. I believe that if we just cut them off (by the millions) it will have devastating consequences, and I’m looking more for a cultural change and a gradual cut back. One thing is for sure…government needs to stop increasing the range of people that qualify for aid. This gradually needs to be rolled backwards, not expanded.… Read more »

Constance
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Constance

What happened to Sandra Fluke? Haven’t seen her mug lately. What, no further lies to tell? Or is she just too busy using all that birth control she has been forced to purchase? Funny how these “victims” appear on the scene, dominate the news for days on end, then suddenly just disappear. What a load of crapola.

NYGino
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NYGino

She had her 15 minutes. As a matter of fact, seeing how much money she expects us to give her for birth control, she probably has lots and lots of 15 minutes each day.

kong1967
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kong1967

…to use burning rubber.

kong1967
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kong1967

Yeah, she has to start burning rubber (pun intended). She has two truck loads of condoms she has to use. Didn’t she say $3,000 worth?

Constit4Ever
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Constit4Ever

I bet you she has an iphone, but cant afford birthcontrol?

Sentinel
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Sentinel

The fact that this moronic “argument” is even taking place illustrates how far America has fallen. How can people be this (bleep) stupid? Are Americans and women in particular that gullible? MSNBC is such a rag network – who on God’s green earth is even watching this crap?

We’re already doomed if ANYONE is seriously buying this weasel-squeeze.

Mike Leavitt
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Mike Leavitt

Magic Pills help women earn more money? I have some magic beans to sell you girlie girl.

NCHokie02
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NCHokie02

Awesome

REALITY SUCKS
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REALITY SUCKS

Not only that but, They are trying to drag women back to the cave..where they were drug by the hair, and just considered good for breeding and beating!!! WE KNOW!! The real reason for abortion was, never about babies!!! Who are they kidding!! its a decades old tool to keep women out of the workplace, politics, ect. and, in there place! Conveniently jumping over the first part of the argument.. The govt has no right to >own a womans wombs!!! If the govt. owned my [mens] nuts..the argument would be quite different, but, then Im a cartoon,,and, Im not sure I have nuts.. but, Im known for being opinionated. This ploy by male politicians was really for the 40s & 50s when women had mens jobs, during wartimes. So, this was used to get them back to the house!! Men or Govt had no right to tell any human, what… Read more »

FreeManWalking
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FreeManWalking

Although it is BAD LAW, women have the right to spread their legs, kill their offspring, up to and if 0b0m0 had his way after a botch abortion, take a pill, or any other form of Birth Control.

I’m not against you having access to birth control, actually I think it would be better if you didn’t ever have to worry about reproducing.

The objection is Why should I be forced to PAY for your birth control, or your abortion if doesn’t work?

Want to buy me dinner?

FreeManWalking
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FreeManWalking

Men will have more disposable income to spend on their girlfriends if they have early and free access to Booze and Cigarettes too.

Why are the democrats so eager for someone else pay their way through life?

REALITY SUCKS
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REALITY SUCKS

? why am i flagged yet again??

REALITY SUCKS
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REALITY SUCKS

why am i flagged?

REALITY SUCKS
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REALITY SUCKS

Not only that but, They are trying to drag women back to the cave..where they were drug by the hair, and just considered good for breeding and beating!!! WE KNOW!! The real reason for abortion was, never about babies!!! Who are they kidding!! its a decades old tool to keep women out of the workplace, politics, ect. and, in our place! Conveniently jumping over the first part of the argument.. The govt has no right to >own a womeans wombs!!! If the govt. owned my [mens] nuts..the argument would be quite different, but, then Im a cartoon,,and, Im not sure I have nuts.. but, Im known for being opinionated. This ploy by male politions was really for the 40s & 50s when women had mens jobs, and this was used to get them back to the house!! Men or Govt had no right to tell any human, what they can… Read more »

dontdrinkthecoolaid
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dontdrinkthecoolaid

And women that don’t need abortions are the most successful of all….they never tell you that…..

E. Lee Zimmerman
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E. Lee Zimmerman

Yes, and while those gals are no doubt counting a lot of ceiling tiles, the rest of the ladies I know are making the world a better place to live by actually BELIEVING in something other than their next orgasm.

Guest1776rcp
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Guest1776rcp

MSNBC Contributor: Women with early access to birth control make more money

Women with early access to birth control make more money, more prone to breast cancer, psychological problems, other health problems.

Fixed that for her.

NCHokie02
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NCHokie02

I wonder what the studies show about when women finally come off of birth control (for those who have been on it for a long time) and the hardships they have of getting pregnant once they want to.

I have two friends that are ready for kids yet they are having trouble getting pregnant and their doctors are telling them that it could be because they have been on birth control for so long. They both have been on it since they were 15 or so and are now 30.

FreddieandReady
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FreddieandReady

Poor poor Laura… she has a bad bad case of ceiling eyes. Poor thing.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

Lol… took me a second…

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

LIBERAL WOMEN ENSLAVED BY CRUEL & OPPRESSIVE OVARIES–DEMAND RELIEF! What if we just started treating these sham issues as if they were just more troll bait? No human looks more like an actual troll than Sharpton. What if no Republicans or conservatives, no major talk show hosts even acknowledged this issue? Better yet, what if there was a major effort to ridicule and satirize these liberal, Democratic “I can’t seem to get my mind off what’s in my panties” issues? I guess we’ve mostly all seen the vid where Sharpton lays out how he manipulates media. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/03/30/Sharpton-Civil-Disobedience Well, I’m sick and tired of playing “Tom Willis” to Sharpton’s “George Jefferson,” although if revived Sharpton could very easily step into George Jefferson’s shoes, if not his belts. I find this racial humor disgusting and if Blacks think these smart-ass comedians bring any measure of credibility to the race as a whole,… Read more »

kim
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kim

Santorum is right that the decline of the family unit has lead to this and that is exactly where the country needs to look to begin to solve these problems. Not by mandating that I buy women birth control.

Unfortunately, he is a voice in the wilderness. I had high hopes that people would see the light in the current desperation. We are further gone than I had thought.

It is sort of like having the omniscience of a train wreck but lacking the omnipotence to stop it.

E. Lee Zimmerman
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E. Lee Zimmerman

Well, at least it’s a big wilderness.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

Well said. smile

kim
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kim

Aspirin is really cheap.

~Foster

3D 81
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3D 81

Am I allowed to say this? As a man, i find women who take birth control pills highly unattractive. My conscience doesn’t allow me to fall in love with a women who is going against her feminine nature and motherhood.

This society has made men lose their masculine nature and women their femininity.

Constit4Ever
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Constit4Ever

Well who needs variety in life?

Paula J Rodman
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Paula J Rodman

Actually, there have been quite a few studies on primates-humans included too-that hormonally suppressing fertile cycles totally confuses and turns the males off. It seems that captive monkey colonies get so upset they sit around and ….well….what it seems human males are tending to do with their own private fantasy entertainment systems…if you catch my drift. But don’t expect HHS or Planned Parenthood to share much of those results.

NCHokie02
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NCHokie02

I heard that since womens hormones are changed, their bodies think they are pregnant, they are attracted to more feminine males rather than more masucline type males. This in part has also led to the decline of men being men in our society. Skinny jeans?? No thank you.

ダニー
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ダニー

You can say whatever you want but I don’t think most people in the world would agree with you.

Paula J Rodman
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Paula J Rodman

How early? What the heck? Who has no access to birth control? I guess having it at the local high school isn’t early enough. Let’s start with Middle School…or what the heck, those kids are developing early these days, how about a Nuva Ring or a 3 pack of condoms in with the apple slices in those happy meals? I think the gubmint should stimulate and mandate McD’s to do that…or else.

NYGino
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NYGino

Pretty soon they’ll be marketing birth control pills in the shape of Flintstone characters or better yet they can use the Spongebob method.

Paula J Rodman
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Paula J Rodman

Takes “sponge worthy” from Seinfeld to a whole new, and incredibly hip dimension, eh?

NYGino
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NYGino

Hysterical. Forgot about that episode. Thanks for the reminder.

NYGino
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NYGino

I used to watch Seinfeld to laugh at the completely elitist arrogance of liberals. What was even more telling was the offshoot “Curb Your Enthusiasm”, written by Seinfeld co-collaborator Larry David. Often wondered if they really thought they were funny rather than a parody on the absurdity of liberalism.

Paula J Rodman
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Paula J Rodman

Never made it to the spinoff show. Elane’s episode where she dated the conservative guy who was pro-life and her retort to him was something like….”it was decided by THE SUPREME COURT…” like the right to abortion came on stone tablets from God to Charleston Heston’s cold dead fingers…or something….geez…that philosophy might just bite them in the arse if we have any luck…wonder if the libs will have a different tack on SCOTUS if it’s not the kinda judicial “activism” they like? And no, liberals never get that they are often a parody on something absurd.

NCHokie02
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NCHokie02

they can start handing it out in elementary school like they used to do with mouth wash. To make sure all the little girls get their access to birth control. Because we don’t need babies having babies!! Thats going to be the next headline. Women need access earlier so your little girl doesn’t get pregnant. No no parents your too incompetent to teach her good morals and values. The government will save you with free birth control pills.

12grace
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12grace

This is pure evil.

johnos69
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johnos69

Then buy it yourself! Woman want to be independent then put your money where your mouth is!

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