Nanny Bloomberg rejects idea as ‘nonsensical’ that armed citizens could have prevented deaths

The Hill reports that Yesterday Louie Gohmert suggested that if there had been audience members armed in the theater that it could have saved lives:

“It does make me wonder, you know, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying? That could have stopped this guy more quickly?” Gohmert said. “I mean, in Tyler, Texas, we had, in my hometown, we had a shooter come in over a domestic matter and just start shooting people, and it was a guy with a concealed carry. He got killed, but his shooting at this guy caused him to run and no doubt saved a lot of lives. He was a real hero.”



But Nanny Bloomberg completely rejects that argument as nonsensical, saying that fewer guns means fewer murders:

“You know, to arm everybody and have the Wild West all the time is one of the more nonsensical things you can say,” Bloomberg said in an interview set to air on CBS’s “Face the Nation” when asked about Gohmert’s argument. “I don’t know what his motives are, I don’t know him and I’m not here to impugn him or anybody else. It just does not make any sense. The bottom line is if we had fewer guns, we would have a lot fewer murders.” …

”Do you really think that you’d be safe if anyone in the audience could pull out a gun and start shooting? I don’t think so,” Bloomberg said.

This guy is a complete joke. If this idiot ever found himself in a similar situation with someone shooting people at will, I bet he’d give anything for someone to have a gun who could protect him.

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Tim Beirne
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Tim Beirne

In this case he’s right, the guy had head to toe body armor, a riot mask, ballistic gear and a gas mask. Anyone who shot at him, through the fog of tear gas, would probably have hit someone else in the theater, but even if they hit him, it wouldn’t have stopped him and he would have killed them.

Daniel Quinn
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Daniel Quinn

As The Great MA-HA Rush would say; “Doom-berg” . You are a Soslit!

Post911GI
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Post911GI

Maybe its just me but when I think about banning guns and adding laws to further stem our rights I Think “Oh yea, when guns are illegal bad guys will quit breaking the law…”

I swear if these unAmerican @$$clowns spent less time worrying about how my guns are hurting people and more time thinking about how how our country is being killed without a shot being fired then that would be a “CHANGE” I would stand behind.

truthonlyplz
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truthonlyplz

ever since Cain killed Able, men have had to protect themselves from other men! It’s just the way it is, nobody likes it, but that is the world. It’s my duty as a husband and father to protect my family from such men therefore I will always carry my handgun and with diligence try my best to keep them safe, support your second amendment America!

Randy Dimit
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Randy Dimit

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. —————————— In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. —————————— Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. —————————— China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. —————————— Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. —————————— Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up… Read more »

Idahoser
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Idahoser

if you do not accept responsibility for your own safety, to include maintaining the proper tools for the job, then you have no right to call yourself a citizen.
Why the gun IS civilization
http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/why-the-gun-is-civilization/

Dave Kawasaki
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Dave Kawasaki

He has armed security.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Don’t anyone for a second think that if I was there with my wife, once I realized what was going on… I would have drawn a weapon. I will not sit by and watch some maniac kill innocent people and possibly myself or my wife when I could do something about it… As for the legality of carrying… I believe it’s better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6. I could never never live with myself if my wife got hurt or killed by some maniac while I could and should have done something! I only wish to God that there was someone in that theater that was armed… .Could have saved so many lives… And not a jury in this country would have convicted him for anything if the authorities got all up in a huff and charged a citizen for daring to defend himself and others… Read more »

rtilk
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rtilk

Doug Giles latest article ‘The Dark Knight Movie Massacre & Why I Carry a Gun Everywhere I Go’ he states that “One fast-thinking and trained person who was armed/licensed with a concealed weapon could have stopped that SOB right in his tracks before the body count skyrocketed.” The armed citizen could have either killed him, sent him running for cover, or at least diverted his fire away from the masses and toward their person. He says that ‘you, my friend, are your first responder … your first line of defense.’ Doug recommends ‘to you, the good citizen, is to get equipped with a gun and become proficient with it. Make it like a cell phone: an additional appendage to your body. And then pray that you’ll never have to use it.’ The life you save maybe your own to include your family/friends.

Boon Companion
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Boon Companion

Dumberg is an arrogant buffoon who walks around with armed guards at all times. He fancies himself a sophisticated and modern cosmopolitan fellow. He’s a high priest of the Feudal age.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Blooming-Idiot! If some good citizen had saved the life of someone from his family, he’d he all about him!

Joe
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Joe

Hopefully I’m not stepping on anyone’s comment – but I just was reminded of an incident

This was mentioned on FOX – in 2002 – TWO ARMED students prevented more shooting at a law school in Virginia

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818798/posts

That answers the Nanny’s question

YES – armed citizens can and do prevent lunatics from doing more damage

NCHokie02
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NCHokie02

I wonder how he would feel walking alone in bad neighborhoods of NYC with their restrictive gun laws…..how about DC or Chicago. He should have no reason to feel threatened or worried for his safety because those cities have some of the strictest gun laws, right? I mean I don’t know whats killing all the young black people in chicago because their strict gun laws prevent people from having guns right? How do they do it??

What an idiot. Gun laws only restrict the law abiding citizen from being armed and having weapons. Criminals still get guns.

Jay
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Jay

Well spoken from a man with armed guards. Mayor Daley used the same “Wild West” argument but there are more shootings in Chicago than there ever were in the Old West. I can only surmise that they want an unarmed citizenry to make it easier for them to take over when the proper time comes. You can bet those New Black Panthers blocking the voting booths had some guns close by.

Chris
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Chris

Nanny Bloomberg …. Camping in the wilderness:

Where’s the water? Can someone get me water?
Wait! Is it clean? You mean get it myself… from the stream?

What is there to eat? Fish??
Cooked over this fire? Wild flesh over dirty charcoal… Eh … no thanks…

Do you have a candy bar?
I’ll pay you $500 for that snickers bar!
I’ll pay you $2000 for that 2 liter of Diet Coke!

SirJamesBond007
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SirJamesBond007

Um, that’s the whole point. People wouldn’t pull out their guns and just start shooting, unless they had a death wish. Numerous other people could (and probably would be) armed too. Since he likes to throw around the term “wild west” to make legal gun ownership and carry unpopular by association with the “old days”, lets look at whether his argument holds any water. Nope, it doesn’t. Why? Look at the crime statistics where guns are used. He’s failing to acknowledge that to a large extent we’re already in the middle of the “wild west,” and its not because of legalizing guns, its quite the opposite. One of the bad sides of human nature is for the strong to take advantage of the powerless, as a liberal he ought to believe this. But here he’s promoting laws that make it difficult to own a gun or carry a concealed gun,… Read more »

stage9
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stage9

Could armed police officers have prevented deaths? Then why couldn’t armed citizens who possessed the proper training?

hbnolikee
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hbnolikee

“emanuel never let a crisis go to waste”…

HopeHeFails
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HopeHeFails

Bloomberg is partially right… only armed Conservatives could have stopped the shooter. Democrats shoot like Obama bowls.

NYGino
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NYGino

It was during the campaign that he bowled a 37 and afterwards said he’s not going to be playing “white man’s games” anymore. People shoulda known right then.

Bombs And Dollars
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Bombs And Dollars

Armed citizens couldn’t have prevented deaths. The murderer snuck in when it was dark and loud. No one noticed him until he started firing. He already shot a lot of people before anyone had any time to react. The commenters here don’t seem to realize that when people with highly powerful firearms (known to politicians as “assault riffles”) take shots at crowds of unexpecting people, many people will die.

What could have prevented this is if criminals like the murderer didn’t have guns.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Recite your ABC’s now. That little ditty will be as equally impressive as this post of yours.

Bombs And Dollars
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Bombs And Dollars

I can’t. A murderer just shot me with a gun that he legally purchased in the United States due to America’s gun laws. A-B-C-D… … (X_X)

Rshill7
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Rshill7

You’re going downhill. Say hi to the Coyote. The Roadrunner and I will be having a coney.

James1754
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James1754

If you think you are funny, you are sadly mistaken. There is a certain amount of truth to the saying about only outlaws having guns. Just ask the folks in England.

James1754
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James1754

How do you know what would have happened if members of the audience had been armed? By the way the weapon he was using is not a ” highly powerful firearm” it is a sub caliber weapon.
Your lack of knowledge is showing.

Libertyship46
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Libertyship46

Here is a link to a video of a 71-year-old man who pulled out his gun during an armed robbery at an internet cafe in Florida and not only shot the robbers, but allowed the robbers to be captured by police: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/19/florida-customer-who-shot-suspects-during-internet-cafe-robbery-will-not-face/

So allowing people to be armed wouldn’t stop robberies and get fewer innocent people killed? Look at the video, read the article, and judge for yourself.

TxGold
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TxGold

Well, at least someone would have been shooting back. It could have given him something to think about besides his aim!!

whatsso4me
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whatsso4me

Bloomberg is clearly not a deep thinker. I’d say he gets frustrated and hot-under-the-collar when having to weigh the pros and cons that come with resolving complex issues. Bloomberg nixes his discomfort by applying simplistic “solutions” to his oversimplified reduction of real-world problems.

Buzzkill59
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Buzzkill59

It’s very easy for morons like nanny Bloomberg to say this kind of nonsense because he travels with an entourage of armed bodyguards!His hypocrisy is amazing though not unexpected from a liberal hack!

dmacleo
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dmacleo

2 or 3 items that prove him wrong in last few days.

Louis
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Louis

Police are also armed citizens. Does Bloomberg plan to take away their guns, too? It was armed policemen who arrested the shooter and stopped him from continuing to shoot people as they left the theater. Had an armed off-duty policeman, security guard, or other armed citizen been inside the theater that night, the shooter could have been stopped much sooner. On the other hand, if all law-abiding citizens, including the police, were unarmed, the shooting may have continued for hours. Is that what Bloomberg would have preferred?

anyonebutbarry2012
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anyonebutbarry2012

New York has some of the toughest gun laws. has that stopped crimes with guns being used ? NO.

we had prohibition in the 1920’s did everyone stop drinking? NO

bloomberg is all that is wrong with politics.

Mayah
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Mayah

All of these Elites can afford to pay someone to protect them. We don’t have that luxury. All they care about is themselves and I suspect the whole disarmament thing has more to do with them truly being afraid of their wealth being seized by the underclass than a concern about lives. Remember, these same people see no problem with the murdering of a life in the womb. What makes anyone think they care about someone just a little older?

Watchman74
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Watchman74

Gun control works about as well as socialism.

Joe
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Joe

Same concept is why

None for you –

all for me only

rich wojcik
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rich wojcik

……………..and why ALL officials have GUN equipped escorts???????
No, not “everybody” would be armed and a guy with a conceal permit would NOT “start shooting”…..
It is hard to get FOID, many can’t, and people with concealed carry know how to shoot.
And how to kill a perp with one shot.
You know it, Bloomburk, so don’t make a fool of yourself AGAIN.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

If guns are outlawed only politician personal staff will have guns.

anyonebutbarry2012
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anyonebutbarry2012

just like they do not have to use obamacare…

johnos69
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johnos69

Here is a thought. How about we honor God’s principles and stop living in darkness. And I am sorry Bloomberg if you were carrying a piece that man would have been stopped!

cracky
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cracky

Elitist Bloomturd is an arrogant shrimp with a Napoleonic Complex. Other than that he’s an OK guy.

sjmom
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sjmom

Bloomberg, like the rest of the Left, is a mindless, nonsensical bumbler who as RS has called him is a “nanny”. Imagine the patriots who fought the British doing it without muskets, or those in one of the other wars on the battlefield without weapons.

Someone with a concealed carry may not have stopped all of the carnage but they could have saved some lives. I guess Bloomberg would have prosecuted them if it had been in NY. What a fool the mayor of NYC is and God help those who live there!

As a woman I don’t like violence of any kind or weaponry but when it comes to saving innocent lives then God give us the strength to do what is right and necessary.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Earlier Allen West warned against wholesale disarming of our soldiers and sailor following long periods of international conflict–wars. What if the effective use of force against mindless rioting, senseless rampages by fools were condoned and even iconized by the media? What if the ABC Movie of the Week was, “An Internet Cafe and a Great American?”

I still recall vividly the image of the Korean grocer, standing in front of his store on Normandie Avenue LA, firing his .45 at the rats running back to their holes. He was not angry. He was clam. He was focused. He believed in what he was doing. And you can bet the fleeing scum did not misunderstood his message.

freenca
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freenca

West has read history. Every time we disarm, the bad guys were emboldened and started another war. It’s in the histories, over and over, Words. The words of another patriot come to mind, “Peace through strength” a good philosophy in my esteem.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

oops. double post

NYGino
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NYGino

Isoroku Yamamoto-Fleet Admiral and Commander in Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy during WW11.

“You cannot invade the mainland of the United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass”.

The founders knew what they were doing with the second amendment.

Joe
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Joe

EXCELLENT!

Bombs And Dollars
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Bombs And Dollars

If a foreign military invaded the United States, they would have to watch out for the United States military, not the citizens. Foreign militaries have tanks, bombers, heavy artillery, etc. They would easily take down a bunch of Americans armed only with guns. Guns vs tanks and bombers=no contest.

(Sidenote: The British didn’t have tanks or bombers during the Revolutionary War.)

James1754
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James1754

In case you did not notice, the British lost.

You have to put boots on the ground to win. Tanks, bombers, heavy artillery are all support for infantry.
Your ignorance is showing.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

You are quite good…at self-rebuttal.

Spartan
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Spartan

Well you disgusting twit. How bout you get rid of your security guards? Afterall, it’s not necessary to have all that armament around if some nut job comes at you. No one with an open carry or concealed will save your life? What a friggin’ blowhard!! And a jackass.

Arrrrrrgggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! OMG there went one of my last good nerves!!!

MaroonRepublic
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MaroonRepublic

Fewer guns = fewer murders? Answer me this Bloomberg, then why are the most gun related crimes happening in the heavier gun controlled cities?

I know this for a fact. If we had fewer democrats there would be fewer idiots.

NYGino
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NYGino

They are one and the same.

James1754
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James1754

That idea has worked real well in both DC and Chicago.

Freempg
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Freempg

The Aurora mass murderer was on unemployment. Could he have afforded his recently purchased weapons had he not been? There is no constitutional right to unemployment benefits unlike there is for bearing arms. We would have less murders if there were no unemployment benefits. This makes more sense than Bloomberg’s comment.

dmacleo
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dmacleo

AWESOME !!
I like that.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

The numbers reported in various media outlets in regard to the monetary outlay for the gear he was wearing are a bit skewed. I have read claims that his gear and weapons would have run him about $10k, which is on the extremely “high end” of the scale, more likely the figure is closer to $2k, a few minutes shopping about the internet bears this out. The source of his income that he used to make his purchases was far more likely the living expense checks received as a part of his student loans, these are received monthly and can range into several thousand dollars a month, I know of at least one Medical student who had by living frugally came out of school with about $75k in his savings from these checks. UI checks would hardly be adequate to live on and purchase this gear, even at the low… Read more »

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Here’s an epiphany for you, Bloomin’ idiot: Criminals by definition do not obey laws. Strict gun laws disarm only law-abiding citizens, not criminals. Your assertions here, side with criminals, the enemy. Guess what that makes you? Another enemy, helping the former enemy. The friend of my enemy, is also my enemy.

You should be dipped head first in a 12 foot tall Big Gulp filled with Dr. Pepper. Yep, the doctor is in. Get a second opinion from Mr. Pepper. I’ve already given you mine.

It’s interesting how someone can be seemingly so smart and savvy in one field of endeavor while simultaneously without detectable brain waves in another.

freenca
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freenca

Does that mean the Bloomin’ idiot or the twin brainiac, Bloomin’ onion? The fat one that comes with a dip? wink

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Yummmm Outback.
Haven’t been there in about 2 years.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Either. They are at parity with one another I think.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Im not sure if it statewide but in our town in Arizona our theatre has a sign that says no weapons. My hubby has a concealed weapon permit and he has to make sure and leave it in the trunk.

NYGino
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NYGino

So who do they think is going to comply, the good guy or the bad guy?

poljunkie
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poljunkie

I know, its so ridicules. My husband always says “anytime, anywhere”, and thats why he got the concealed permit. But then after talking to a local policeman, he pretty much told us that if he carried the gun into a place where there was a sign posted ( theatre, bar/restaurant, school) and by chance used it for protection- he would be a a heap of trouble. Much more liablitly because of the permit. A few months ago there was a road rage episode on the local highway near us, and the two guys ended up pulling into Safeway’s parking lot. One guy pulled out a gun and fired ( and missed) and the other guy, pulled out a sword and started attacking ( REALLY). The guy with the gun got into huge trouble- because he had a concealed weapon permit, and shot in a parking lot ( where he could… Read more »

NYGino
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NYGino

Better to be in a heap of trouble than to be dead.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Believe me, he would love to take his chunk in that circumstance.

Joe
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Joe

Better to be judged by twelve

than to be carried by six

NHConservative0221
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NHConservative0221

It’s just a sign though? Do they search you? what’s to stop you from bringing it in anyways?

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Well considering our town gives you a ticket for going 2 miles over the speed limit, they wont view you as a hero if you shot a shooter.

They will view you as another shooter, and take you down.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Yeah, it wont be long before there are metal detectors at the entrances to the theaters. But in this case it wouldn’t have helped. This jerk came in thru the emergency exit right?

freenca
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freenca

It’s kind of like the TSA searching granny undies and contaminating a ladies feeding tube this week, but totally missing the sewing needles that got into sandwiches served on board a flight. Makes about as much sense too. Guard the front door but not the back? WTF.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

I know. Right?

The poor man that bit into the needle. What worry/anxiety he is going thru now.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

They’re referred to (in firearms circles) as “GunBusters”. In cases when posted in accordance with local law ,they carry legal weight.

Here (in Montana) the sign must be on Company letterhead, posted in an obvious place where the public can readily see it, signed by the owner of the establishment or CEO (not a manager or employee). For a CWP holder violating such a notice is a felony (because as a holder you’re supposed to know better). Besides that it is the Right of the property owner to do so.

So, I respect his/her rights by taking my money elsewhere. They’re encountered only rarely around here, so it’s not much of an issue.

If you aren’t already familiar with it, this is a fantastic site;
http://www.usacarry.com/

toongoon
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toongoon

A call-in to the radio station I listened to yesterday said the theater must not have had a “No Weapons” sticker on the window. If they had, Holmes would have left his weapons in his car too.

Liberals need to make sure that businesses comply with the sticker in the window, how else are we going save innocent people.

On the other hand, a 5 foot by 5 foot poster in the window saying “Concealed Weapons Encouraged” would have saved the lives and health of all those people, and they could have watched the rest of the movie.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Thats pretty good.

unclesamnephew
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unclesamnephew

i recently read from ted nugent. he stated that the 2nd admendment should be consider our concealed permit! nugent for V.P.

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