Obama mandates insurance companies provide birth control free

This is how he is supposedly getting around the First Amendment concerns of religious liberty so that religious organizations won’t have to pay for birth control services and religious institutions won’t have to provide these services directly, to mandate that insurance companies provide it for free to the employees of these organizations and institutions:

Here’s the video:



Obama must take the American public for fools, but we aren’t stupid. There’s an underlying foundational principle here that most Americans are well acquainted with and it is this: NOTHING is free. Somebody always pays for the so-called ‘free service’ and in this case, it will be everyone who pays for health insurance. EVERYONE.

There’s no way that these insurance companies are going to use Obama’s opportunity cost model here to absorb the costs of these ‘birth control services’ simply because it’s cheaper than abortions (or something). No way. That cost will be passed on to the consumer, even the very folks that are being told that they aren’t paying for it. This is nothing more than a rhetorical magician’s trick so that you focus on what he wants you to see and not how the trick is done.

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Also, it is very alarming that HHS can just mandate that these insurances companies provide anything for free. But that power was given HHS in ObamaCare and has been exercised already with the insurances companies as to what they cover and who.

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Rick-312779
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Rick-312779

Why do I have to subsidize your birth control. I guess I would be ok with it if I did not have to give the Feds a couple of bucks every time buy a pack of cigarettes. Given that and the New York and California controls on the foods those folks can eat I would have to say we are moving closer and closer to a system sticks its nose in every aspect of our society. I don’t think you liberals realize what you are doing. How long do you think it will be before the government mandates how many children you can have.

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”

CatyBethXD
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CatyBethXD

Wow really? No DUH it’s not literally free. This idea simply means that when you go to the pharmacy to pick up your birth control for the month you don’t have to pay anything out of pocket for a co pay. And I think it is THE GREATEST IDEA EVER! There are people in this world who have to be on some form of birth control because of health risks. Like me. I have a condition that makes my aunt flo so crazy that I could DIE if it were not regulated by BC. Yeah Obama is a retard but this just might be the best thing he could ever do.

qofe79
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qofe79

all of you people are scary stupid. religious freedom in this country is not being threatened. you can go ahead and have a baby every time you fornicate, if that’s what your religious beliefs demand. but no one has the right to deny the rest of us our beliefs and you just don’t get that at all. you don’t like birth control? let’s get rid of coverage for viagra too then, shall we. Move to Iran or Iraq if you want to live in a religious theocracy. what we have here in the US is a democracy, there is no state sanctioned religion. that’s the first amendment.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Just because he says so makes it law? That is a bunch of hooey! He thinks he is dictator and king. B.S. If he comes into my shop and says this is the law I will tell him to go to the devil, and where he can stick his law. I’m getting damn sick and tired of his personal edicts! This is America folks. We don’t have one man rule, I don’t care if you are a black from Kenya, don’t come into my country and try to tell me what to do. Remember folks, get out the vote in 2012. We MUST get rid of this jerk!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I don’t want contraceptives…..don’t want to pay for them…..don’t want them for free..(whatever that means)……..obama take your pills,your lightbulbs,your toilets,your junk electric cars, and all the rest of your bilge and stick them and your propaganda right up your you know what and where………….I can’t stand this jerk already

Eric Simpson
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Eric Simpson

Not because it’s cheaper than abortions, idiot. It’s cheaper than pregnancy.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

November is just round the corner, Hussein. You just wait.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

When he came for the Catholics, everyone stood in defense of them. When he came for the taxpayers, no one stood up.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The entire health care mandate is bogus and they know it.

Constance
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Constance

Is my understanding correct that the Catholic Church is applauding this so-called retreat by Obama? If so, they are fools.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If obama is successful it will only build a larger force against the church the next time they try.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Nothing has changed. obama is still a tyrant, and we still know it. Come on November. I don’t think obama thinks we’re stupid any more. He just believes that we won’t (literally) fight, and holder has bagged the election for him with his anti-voter-ID laws, so obama knows he is going to win by an apparent “landslide”. He will then claim a mandate from us to finish destroying freedom. That’s when the real “election” begins. obama can anoint himself dictator, but those true Americans who still exist will not bow to him. Then the military will have to decide whether or not to deal with the PC elements within their own ranks and stand with Americans, because citizens would lose an argument with the military, the 2nd Amendment notwithstanding. BTW, has it occurred to anyone else that any election without voter ID is a fraudulent election? An obama victory that… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

For once, this guy really stepped in it. But- who is to really blame for this policy? The very BISHOPS and 54% of Catholics who voted for this nimrod. What, they didn’t know he was PROCHOICE?!?!? That’s like the girl who marries the drunk, then says she was surprised he was so violent at home. People like Democrat Stupidbak are either fools or complete LIARS, and the Catholics who stood in line to follow O’ in 2008 deserve the problems they are getting. Some of us WARNED you. Where were the Bishops when the Tea Party was marching on Washington and being called racist? Where were the Bishops when Obamacare was being passed? Where were you in 2008 during that election, when you had a CHOICE between a pro-choice liberal or a pro-life candidate? WHERE WERE YOUR LETTERS TO YOUR CONGREGATIONS THEN?? We needed you, and you abandoned us. Now… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Where are the calls for impeachment? In this country we don’t nationalize private business. Now the list continues to grow: Banks, Auto companies, insurance companies, hospitals, doctors, real estate, ….

sjmom
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sjmom

The Catholic Church is not buying this so the damage is far from over.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

It appears to me that the insurance companies have now been nationalized by President Chavez … I mean Hussein …. I mean Maobama and he has proclaimed his power to tell them exactly what they are to provide and to whom. Another step closer to all out Communism. He’ll get back to abolishing that nasty First Amendment later.

Joe
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Joe

If you have ANY DOUBT about the how CORRUPT the WH is

This will close the deal!

http://freebeacon.com/warren-buffetts-net-worth-jumps-154m-thanks-to-mortgage-settlement/

Any doubt now ??

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I never had a doubt but that should certainly seal the deal for anyone who was on the fence about whether Obama was just stupid or totally corrupt. Answer: TOTALLY CORRUPT!

Joe Durnavich
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Joe Durnavich

Read more about Buffett’s crony capitalism here:

http://reason.com/archives/2012/02/09/warren-buffett-baptist-and-bootlegger

shawn S
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shawn S

Hmm, Obama’s mandate allows this

but, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

An argument can now be made that Obamacare prohibits the free exercise of religion

Jillian Rempt
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Jillian Rempt

Wow. This article offered a great new perspective. He almost got me. It is my natural inclination to distrust anything Obama proposes, but I WAS sitting here thinking, “Well… what’s so bad about that…” – Anyways, thanks!

Douglas
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Douglas

I guess we’re all supposed to be grateful now that today the dictator has “changed his mind” and will be making citizen B pay for contraceptives instead of citizen A paying for it. He’s just playing a shell game while dictating what American must buy. And who’s to say he won’t “change his mind” again the day after election day? This is no longer a constitutional republic. It’s now an arbitrary democratic dictatorship for four years.

Douglas
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Douglas

I guess we’re all supposed to be grateful now that today the dictator has “changed his mind” and will be making citizen B pay for contraceptives instead of citizen A paying for it. He’s just playing a shell game while dictating what American must buy. And who’s to say he won’t “change his mind” again the day after election day? This is no longer a constitutional republic. It’s now an arbitrary democratic dictatorship for four years.

DaMz
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DaMz

We are so screwed!

We are going to need a Titan in the WH to combat this stuff

Virus-X
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Virus-X

And, unfortunately, we don’t have any, that I know of.

NYGino
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NYGino

This basic magicians trick is called misdirection. Hey look over here while I shuffle this past you over there. Very easy for him to accomplish since the MSM is aiding and abetting. What he fails to realize now is that after three years of his lies and misdirections more and more people are catching on to his games.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Right. Can a billion dollars of lies and slander win the day over a few million worth of truth?

Sometimes. This isn’t one of those times though. This liar is a known liar, a known quantity without quality. His credibility no longer exists.

Make it two billion. It doesn’t matter. In 2012, the mute and channel change button on remote controls are going to get a workout as never before. The duped will not be duped again. He will be punished at the polls by those he made fools of in ’08.

Maestro, please…

“Oh be swift my soul to answer Him, be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Money talks!

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Yep, it also lies it’s legal tender off.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I feel that this is a real world solution to a real world problem. Our country has higher rates for abortions than any other developed country. By providing birth control won’t we limit the amount of abortions? I’m all for it.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Of course you are. Duh! Is it because we have such a shortage of condoms in this country? Or, is it because you don’t give a damn about religious liberty?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I’m not sure if I follow, is the high abortion rate because of a lack of condoms? I don’t think so… I think it’s more the lack of education and the negative perception that comes with condoms in this country. I can remember meeting these girls in Lisbon, all 3 of them had condoms (more than one) in their purse. As an American, I thought, “Oh, I’m dealing with some freaks” but in reality that’s the norm over there. Over in the States, condoms are embraced by men, because it looks like they get a lot of action, but when condoms are seen bought by a woman we tend to think hoe more so than responsible young adult. I can understand if there’s resentment toward paying for somebody else’s birth control, but I feel that is a less expensive long term cost than the eventual welfare that’s tax payer supported,… Read more »

Rshill7
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Rshill7

I don’t think you follow either. It’s about religious freedom, and you couldn’t care less about that. How many words in your post above is about religious freedom? None. Both of my posts are about precisely that.

Keep your arguments for another battle in another place. This is about First Amendment protections and the integrity of our constitution. If you have no arguments against that, you have no arguments.

Hopefully there is some room in your creed or your theories for that document. It has served us well, and will continue thus.

Dustin Albright
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Dustin Albright

Do you even know what you’re talking about? You’re not losing any religious freedoms. No one is mandating that you use condoms or birth control, only that insurance companies provide free birth control to those who want it, and colleges provide free condoms to those who also don’t want it. If you don’t want to use them, then don’t use them. If you’re so much more worried that your Christian college does not have condoms readily available because it goes against tenants of your faith, rather than it providing condoms to those who want to engage in consenting behavior in a responsible manner, then quite honestly you’re part of the problem. No one is forcing you to use them, only so that they are readily available. Or perhaps you think the overabundance of teen and welfare moms on the basis of not being able to afford either or and living… Read more »

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Well, I thought I knew what I was talking about, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. Maybe I have less of a clue than either you or the terminally clueless one, the not so great, Gatsby It’s not my current religious freedoms I am concerned with here. It’s about the current freedoms of the Catholic institutions which object to this. It’s about trampling all over the first amendment. It’s about ever-encroaching government trying to manage and micro-manage every aspect of everyone’s life. It’s really about violating our constitution, that leftists do not care about, until such violation touches them…right? Are you OK with violating the constitution? Would you reserve some portions of the same to remain free of violation? But to my point: Regardless of who pays for the birth control, who will have to dispense it? Hmmm? Will the insurance companies, who O’ said will provide them “free”, run on over… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Contraceptives are already readily available to anyone who wants them. Planned Parenthood hands them out like candy to anyone who cannot “afford” to buy them (which our taxes already subsidize).

But this isn’t about contraception, although those on the left are desperately trying to steer the conversation that way for fear we might see their president for the socialist he truly is.

Today: Contraception Tomorrow: ????????

THAT’S the problem!

Virus-X
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Virus-X

Funny, isn’t it, how HHS can mandate an insurance company provide a box of free rubbers, and yet they’re also involved, no doubt, in the cancellation of cancer drugs that would save countless lives, just because it would cost “too much”, and ObamaCare doesn’t want to cover it.

Travis Pierson
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Travis Pierson

If he can mandate that one entire industry provide services to its customers for free, is there any restriction on what else he can mandate? President Obama has just taken the first step toward eliminating the need for money.

JRNASH
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JRNASH

What about Christian insurance companies? Never heard of Prudential Christian? How about Christian of Omaha?

911Infidel
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911Infidel

Since when did it become the Federal governments responsibility to provide medical care? And where does the Grand Ayatollah get off trying to make it so? Which Constitution is Ali Al-Hussein going by: The US Constitution with its enumerated powers clauses or the Soviet 1938 Constitution? Positive Law anyone? Hmmm?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The fact is overlooked that contraceptive is not “medical care”. The taxpayer is forced to foot the bill for a personal “choice”.

911Infidel
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911Infidel

True dat.

Joe
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Joe

This deserves a repeat >>>

Obama trampling on the Constitution PLEASE – MUST WATCH
This is a great video – I haven’t seen it posted yet – I will from time to time

http://youtu.be/4KGlBHyVeYU

The actual artwork >>> (roll over the picture with your mouse slowly)

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/a

ARROGANCE

911Infidel
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911Infidel

Both me and my fellow Tea Partiers at work are using that painting as our wall paper. Talk about p’ng off libsticks. Yes we can.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

People are praising dear leader today and it’s making me sick! He’s basically taking over the insurance companies now- telling them what exactly they MUST provide and for how much. Where in the Constitution is any of this?! I guess it’s in the same place where it tells us a woman has the right to murder her baby. The people who are pro abortion always spews about pro choice, and it makes me sick when I hear Christians say they are pro choice. Well- where was the choice for this idea of demanding religious business and hospitals to pay for something they are morally and religiously against? Where is the choice now for any Christian in the insurance industry who now must provide “services” which goes against their religious consciences?! People like princess pelosie who says we are using the excuse of religion to deny women their right to reproductive… Read more »

Joe
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Joe

Go heave – You will feel better – then try again

I usually heave after I see him for 5 seconds

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

I hear what you are saying. I hear the outrage and frustration. The Constitution has no legs, no arms and cannot defend itself. Even our Supreme Court, having authority and responsibility to interpret the law, has no power to enforce it. These Congress persons who swore to “represent” the people are too self interested to step out of their comfortable positions and take any action. The Constitution, however, has defended and protected me for many Years. The Constitution has provided me with the opportunity to better myself, provide for myself, my family and my posterity. The Declaration, the Constitution and the founders, dead these 200 plus years did that for me, even though they never met me, never met my immigrant great grand parents and have never asked me for anything in return. I my own way, I am grateful. In whatever way is necessary, I will defend those documents… Read more »

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Your words never fail to move me. Thank you for that. Well said.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

And I will stand at your side in that battle.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Keep that weapon clean, marine!

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

U do it swell!

Chris Dias
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Chris Dias

He knows nothing about the constitution, and he’s no Christian.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The elephant in the room. Why was there not any outrage from M U S L I M employers. Did the mandate not apply to them? Were I S L A M I C institutions exempt?

lr
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lr

if memory serves, i think muslims were exempt from bambam’s deathcare mandate to begin with, it goes against their “beliefs”!!!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I can understand why the left-wing media has not made an issue in regards to the followers of Islam being exempt from the mandate but … why has the current slate of candidates not exposed this double standard? The politically correct appeasement of this ideology appears to cross all boundaries. Why?

American Duckie
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American Duckie

yes.

MaxSteele
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MaxSteele

What a crock. Everyones insurance premiums go up then. Insurance companies are not going to do this for free. Also, this by passes the free market now. Since condom manufacturers will have their products purchased, by govt mandate, by insurance companies then they have been given an oligopoly. Therefore, their profits, jobs, are tied to the socialst, democratic government.
So the message is to the people who work for condom manufactuers that if you want to keep your job you better vote for Obama. Yet, for those of us who have jobs not working directly for or as a subsidury for the govt. we have to pay larger premiums for this mandated coverage.
Was there a problem with people getting birth control prior to this?
Are there not other, more pressing, medical issues..hmm..like curing cancer for instance?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Are the insurance companies going to do this for free?
I don’t think so.
Obama is a bigger A$$ everyday.

Steven Sheinfield
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Steven Sheinfield

Is there a bigger scum bag out there? I mean… not only does it violate the first amendment, but it’s just another way of forcing the private sector to pay for public “services”. This man is a dangerous idiot.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

Just don’t offer health insurance as part of the employee compensation package. Religious organizations already get a tax exemption and if the Feds go after the tax exempt status they’ll lose. If Obamacare is structured the same as Romneycare in Massachusetts, not having health insurance is not a fine or a penalty. It’s a tax deduction. A lot of people don’t understand this distinction. When you do your Massachusetts state income tax return, and if you have a 1099-HC form that proves you had coverage for the return year, you can claim the deduction. It’s like claiming a dependent. If you have a child you get to claim them as a dependent. That’s how Romneycare works. If you had insurance the previous year of the return you can take the deduction. It’s not a fine. It’s not a penalty. It’s a deduction you can take if you qualify for it.… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Very glad this is front and center in plenty of time for the election. Those bimbos at the White House bought themselves a stinging rebuke this time–and a critical mass of outrage that will shore up the foundation of resistance to their secularist program for a long time.

Joe
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Joe

Lots of big words above Major – but I think it means that it’s bad for the WH

Can’t wait to rid DC of the epitomy of arrogance and widespread hubris

There is a plethora of ignorance in the people’s Capitol that diminishes the
efficacy and efficiency of the bureaucracy that is existent in the political bubble.

It appears that machination is in full play rather than being concerned with the well being of the Country.

I am not sure what I said – but I think I said that Obummer couldn’t give a rats butt about us and cares only about his agenda

MY HEAD IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE !

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Fire in the hole!

Run for your lives and watch out for flying grey shrapnel!

“No Bullwinkle, I’m not talking about your squirrelly little buddy. Now git.”

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

I love your optimism. I hope you have a chance!

NYGino
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NYGino

Joe if you were to say this in Flatbush you’d get the you know what kicked outta ya.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

The “liar-and chief” is in rare form these days. After vacationing and abstaining from any hint of leadership during the debt crisis or the tax cuts, he is once again going Kamikaze on America. What do I mean you might ask. Well, let me tell you… He is excreting all the remaining socialist bile that he had stored up in his progressive gland. He is making a last ditch effort (just in case) to deliberately harm this nation before his time may be over. He is flying his plane into the heart of America. He hates this nation… that’s apparent. And many of the things he’s doing will not pull anyone but the extreme left (and maybe unions) over to support him. He continues to give the finger to conservatives, the Tea Party, the Constitution, to Americans, and frankly, to God. This may be his swan song… it’s certainly his… Read more »

American Duckie
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American Duckie

very well said my Sober friend.

Trust1TG
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Trust1TG

Bears repeating:

He is and has been the most destructive, arrogant, and corrupt president this nation has ever had.

sjmom
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sjmom

He is also the most godless!

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Disclaimer: This is an over the top example for effect only.

I vote for saline solution or dilation and evacuation for O’. That’s where he is either burned alive or ripped limb from limb. If it’s good enough for unborn babies it’s good enough for him.

Or, perhaps we could assemble a team of qualified physicians to pull his entire body out of the oval office feet first, where nothing but his neck and head are left in there. Then slam the door on his neck about 1787 times, or until he flatlines, (cuz ya’ can’t suck his brain out. It went AWOL). If it’s good enough for unborn babies, it’s good enough for him.

If this offends anybody, including O’ or any of his department heads, tough!
I place innocent babies well above him. Besides, it’s a metaphor…with a punch…right in the gut. My own.

NYGino
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NYGino

Rshill7, I’m all in on this plan except, to add a bit of irony, the door should be slammed 1776 times.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

I originally had it as “1776-1787 times”, but since it’s a constitutional issue, I settled on 1787 times.

NYGino
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NYGino

See your point, yes 1787 it should be.

Jasper Silvis
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Jasper Silvis

You know, this got me thinking about the Shippensburg University vending machine that has the Plan B pill in it now. We should find a way to make this more “fair”, a word the liberals love to use ad nauseum. How about placing on the left side of the Plan B pill vending slot a stack of pocket sized New Testament bibles and call it “Plan A”.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

Brilliant m8… simply brilliant!

Trust1TG
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Trust1TG

A New Testament + a booklet entitled : “101 Reasons Why Abstinence Is The Best Plan”

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Excellent!!! Love it!

Joel
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Joel

Looking forward to November…

Joe
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Joe
Joe
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Joe

This deserves a repeat >>>

Obama trampling on the Constitution PLEASE – MUST WATCH
This is a great video – I haven’t seen it posted yet – I will from time to time

http://youtu.be/4KGlBHyVeYU

The actual artwork >>> (roll over the picture with your mouse slowly)

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=379

ARROGANCE

Amy
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Amy

The McNaughton art website is awesome… My teenager will appreciate that one too. Thanks!

Joe
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Joe

Welcome

He does awesome work

Did you “like” me?

Amy
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Amy

I just did wink

Joe
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Joe

Thanks

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Wow Thanks Joe! I saved these.

Joe
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Joe

I aim to please and “aim” well too!

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I have seen that picture Joe, but I had no idea of the story behind it!!! Thank you so much for posting that! I’m putting it up on facebook now.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

I paint oil portaits. I have seen many classics, around the world. I believe before you can actually produce lasting beauty, you must have a loving heart. You prove my point.

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