Outpatient drug-rehab services may be shut down because of Obamacare…

More consequences of Obamacare — this time potentially killing an outpatient substance abuse service that many people rely on:



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Softie
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Softie

It’s important that each of us do our part to reject the tyrant’s designs for absolute despotism: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

Virus-X
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Virus-X

LEGALIZE IT!

imatellau
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imatellau

i told all you koolade drinkers what would happen… now spit out that artificially flavored poison and get these demons of the Republic out of office!!! The life you save could just be your own!!!
Health insurance is not health care!!!

JoelDick
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JoelDick

Who needs rehab when you have safe injection sites, and you get their votes while you’re at it?
So much more progressive.

timsrighty
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timsrighty

Denying a person with an addiction recovery is like denying a cancer patient chemo therapy and radiation. The AMA declared alcoholism a disease back in the 1950’s. A short time later, addiction to other drugs was considered the same. Hopefully the Washington legislature will continue to fund this program…it’s tax dollars well spent. If not then, hopefully these folks will search out 12 steps meetings in their area. Please pray for them.

poorhardworker
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poorhardworker

Sounds like Barack and his minions left no stone unturned to upend people’s lives. And he is still talking about the “war on drugs”…how is this misstep helping? What an abomination this legislation is!

HCTUB
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HCTUB

Everyday something changes with the obama or the DEMOCRATCARE that they ALL voted for .

americalsgt
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americalsgt

Probable won’t matter as fast as people are dying of drug overdoses. So far 1 a day plan here in RI. Any idea who souped up the latest delivery of H?

mikeinidaho
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mikeinidaho

All part of the plan. Obama has no need for the slackers and drug addicts. They serve no purpose to him. They don’t vote, they don’t pay taxes, they don’t contribute to the DNC and they contribute nothing to the State. As a communist, he has no use for the “takers”. They are under the bus with most of the rest of the citizenry. As they begin to rob, steal and kill to get their drugs, they do contribute to the chaos that will alow him to declare martial law and stay in power indefinately, so they do have SOME temporary use to him.

Steve Angell
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Steve Angell

Oh he has a need for them for now. They destabilize society. When he has a full on Dictatorship he will just kill all of them. But that will take first a society falling apart.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Little early but typical of tyrants. Soon as the incredible revolution is successful, the tyrant begins to purge, marginalize and eventually exterminate those he on whose backs he stood while seizing power.

With Hitler, it was the Jews, gypsies, communists and homosexuals.

With Obama it will be the black Americans,, the Occupiers, the homosexuals. Use them, discard them.

Guest
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Guest

Without Methadone Maintenance Programs, you’re about to see A HUGE uptick in robberies/burglaries due to a large segment of the population going through the worst withdrawals of all of the opiates (Methadone is almost equivalent in potency to Fentanyl, but it’s withdrawals last for up to two weeks, while Fentanyl is only 3 days…). Keep in mind that most Rehab patients began taking painkillers due to an injury or debilitating disease and subsequently got addicted (it’s not a choice or character flaw…addiction is INEVITABLE due to the way painkillers work). Once your brain’s neurotransmitters are screwed up (Dopamine and Norepinephrine specifically), it takes YEARS to get back to normal (and this timeframe is when most people relapse). That being said, your neighbors in the suburbs…yeah, probably about 25% of them are on painkillers. And I guarantee you there is at least two people in your neighborhood that is a rehab… Read more »

Guest
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Guest

Jesus Disqus is really sucking today…

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

Are you saying Jesus has a last name and it’s “Disqus”? How about using someone else’s name in vain.

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

Can’t…won’t let me…

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

Well…there ya go! I tried to edit it and it failed, then I tried to delete it, and now it just changed from “Brian Jones” to “Guest”…now I can’t do anything with it.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

Sometimes Disqus does suck. I often experience it’s woe’s myself. I understand.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

How about if you get on drugs you get yourself off of them.

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

Yeah, because it’s just that easy…you are *WOEFULLY* misinformed…

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

Did I say it was easy? Did I? Just to be clear. I’m talking about those who do drugs for the high, then get addicted then expect the tax payer of foot the bill. Where I live the city counsel raised the sales tax to provide more funds for drug addicts and their problems. Fine, help those who have been in your predicament, it was no fault of your own and in fact it’s due to your service. We, as tax payers should gladly pay for your rehab, it’s the LEAST we owe. If the city was raising our sales tax to feed children, senior citizens, military…fine, raise it. But, I do not want to pay for some drug user’s momentary lapse in wanting to get high. And just FYI, I have been addicted to pain pills, Demerol, to be exact, from a very painful mouth procedure gone bad. It… Read more »

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

I know you weren’t implying that it was easy, but that’s really the only response someone can give when someone else says “just get off of them”… And I agree with you that we should NOT have to foot the bill for junkies to be in Rehab, but yet we *DO* need to. If we don’t pay for them to go to rehab, then they will victimize someone to get their fix. I’d rather them do Methadone, because hopefully then they’ll get clean of the illegal drugs, stay off the street, and *HOPEFULLY* get some gainful employment and some self-esteem (something to live for). Plus, Methadone has the side-effect of making any other opiate ineffective for up to two weeks, so a junkie that ends up in rehab is more likely to stay there! We shouldn’t have to fund rehab services, but the alternative isn’t all that great either…sometimes there’s… Read more »

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

I still think your compassion is mis-placed.

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

That’s certainly a possibility! I try to be as Conservative as possible, but there are *some* things where I do gravitate towards the Liberal side (typically on TRULY humanitarian issues). And believe me, I am always SHOCKED when I discover those scenarios where I actually agree with Democrats (few and far between, thank God)…LOL!!!

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

Just as long as no issue ever makes you VOTE for a democrat! wink

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

NEVER! LOL!

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

smile

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

Read this if you actually want to understand Prescription Painkiller addiction:

“They often can’t articulate it, because these brain areas are so far below conscious control,” says Saxon, “but on some level they truly believe that if they don’t get the drug, they’ll die.” – http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/features/prescription-drug-abuse-who-gets-addicted-and-why?page=2

timsrighty
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timsrighty

All due respect but methadone clinics are a menace. They’re trading one drug for another. They didn’t even mention those clinics in the story. Methadone clinics are not recovery, they are a crutch..

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

Yeah…you’ve never had to rely on painkillers just to survive have you? Cancer patients, Wounded Veterans (my situation), etc. Once you have to rely on Fentanyl patches just to live a somewhat normal life, your brain chemistry has LITERALLY changed (due to the extra Dopamine flooding your brain, your brain grows extra Dopamine receptors to maintain a normal Dopamine level in the post-synaptic cleft.) Once you stop taking the drugs, your brain is now LACKING in those chemicals (you have twice as many Dopamine receptors getting NONE of the Dopamine, which is responsible for Body Temperature Regulation, Appetite, Sleep, Mood, Happiness, and pretty much every other mental function, while having too much Norepinephrine, causing non-stop panic-attacks and high blood-pressure). This causes Withdrawal, and lasts FOR YEARS. And while Pain Management is more than happy to hand out pain-meds, they DO NOT help you get off of them, thus leading to… Read more »

timsrighty
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timsrighty

Brian, you have no idea what I’ve been through. A recovering addict and alcoholic, cancer patient who took painkillers after years of sobriety then flushed them when the pain left. Hundreds of 12 step meetings and numerous treatment centers where you can get completely detoxed and go on to your personal program of recovery from there. Substituting one drug for another simply isn’t recovery. All I’m saying is that (in my opinion) meth clinics do more harm than good.

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

Well, then I’m right there with you (minus the cancer/alcohol part)! 5 years of Fentanyl to diagnose, and eventually reconstruct, both femurs and hips and reattach the nerves in several different stages, physical therapy for years, relearning how to walk, etc… I’m *currently* going through the discontinuation stage by myself (because my Pain Management doctor “treats pain, not addiction”), so I take this issue pretty personally. And while I don’t pretend to know what your experience has been like, I *can* speak towards mine…and it has been THE HARDEST THING I’VE EVER DONE (and that includes two deployments to the Middle East as a Heavy Aircraft Crew Chief for the Air Force). I just get upset when I see people that treat addicts like we all just want to get high. And I do agree with you that Methadone clinics only switch one addiction for another. But in today’s society,… Read more »

timsrighty
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timsrighty

First of all, thank you for your service! I did not mean to be combative with my earlier comment, it’s just that meth clinics have been highly criticized (for good reason) where I live. Even though our experiences with addiction are somewhat different, I can see now we’re pretty much on the same page. All the best to you Brian, I’ll pray for you.

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

I understand buddy! To be honest, I actually meant to post my original response to you under “badbadlibs”! So the whole “Yeah…you’ve never had to rely on painkillers just to survive have you” part wasn’t actually meant for you! LOL!

But yeah, I do believe our experiences have been somewhat similar though. I (again) can’t speak for you, but while I was on my Dilaudid and Fentanyl, I never really got a high. But once I got off of them, I experienced one HELL of a low (the damage was done, and my Dilaudid/Fentanyl level was my NEW normal, and my OLD normal was INCREDIBLY low (relatively speaking)). And as far as my 12-step program, that’s been my Mom (she’s my sponsor)! grin

timsrighty
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timsrighty

So that was for badbadlibs, huh? LOL! Oh well, it made for a great back and forth!

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

That it did! grin

LibraryTchr
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LibraryTchr

This is what happens when you fundamentally change the country. Speaking as a Washington state resident I say YOU VOTED for THIS! Low information voters outnumber those of us who could have predicted this when these people voted in 2008 and 2012! Also this is the state that has legalized MARIJUANA! Wonder how many more addicts we will have as a result of pot use here in Washington?

PNWShan
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PNWShan

Fellow Washingtonian here. One thing about people who smoke marijuana: they’re happy with dead-end, part-time minimum wage jobs. And aren’t those the kinds of jobs that Obama’s and Inslee’s policies foster?

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

Are those the same nimcompoops shutting down traffic on I-5 to protest their “minimum” wage jobs, demanding 15.00 an hour?!

PNWShan
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PNWShan

The protesters are the more energetic ones.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

Well, for where I live this can only mean another hike in the sales tax. The city counsel took it upon themselves to “vote” for a hike to cover the costs of junkies to get their rehab services. Every time you buy something around these parts you’re paying for methadone.

warpmine
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warpmine

It would be easier to just invite the would be addicts to get their high “free” at the clinic instead of going the route via unlicensed pharmacies would it not?

sDee
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sDee

Obamacare doubled the cost of healthcare insurance.

America layered a $1 trillion dollar government bureaucracy on top of a $1 trillion dollar health insurance industry and we expected it to be cheaper with more services?

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

That’s why I’m convinced there is something seriously wrong with the brains of leftists. I joke and say their brains are in backwards, but truly there is something wrong with their cognitive abilities. And we all pay the price for allowing these imbeciles to hold power. SMH

BearNJ
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BearNJ

Why isn’t the GOP holding hearings in the House and bringing these folks up to tell their stories every month. The media is in the tank for Obama. They won’t even report there is a trainwreck let alone a body count.

These people who have been hurt by the UN affordable healthcare act should be heard. Boehner and the GOP establishment are SUCH losers. Make the case. Put the Left on the defensive for a CHANGE. Don’t just sit there and try to run out the clock till November. Stand for SOMETHING.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

I’d like to know too. This is an issue that can be used to bring the left under check. I have no idea why the GOP won’t pounce on this.
That reid thought it possible to get on the floor of the Senate and call all those who are suffering under this vicious law, liars says it all.
He has no opposition and he knows it.

sDee
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sDee

Because the GOP congressmen suffer from the same genetic pattern to which badbadlibs refers.

They just chose to put an (R) after their name.

Steve Angell
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Steve Angell

Because there is no GOP all there are is Democrats that run as Republicans. They own the leadership so no true Republican need apply. Thus the war on the Tea Party fully supported by the GOP.

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