Sarah Palin on Newt: The Establishment is trying to crucify this man

Sarah Palin took note last night on Stossel that the Establishment is trying to crucify Newt Gingrich, and that the MSM and the Democrats certainly don’t want him to be elected (via Hotair):



Once again she’s right on the money. And I think someone wearing mittens is behind the whole smear campaign.

Here’s the full interview:

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Anonymous
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Anonymous

It’s late and I’m on foreign soil and I should know better but…You folks need to get out a little and question things and learn to do some critical thinking and get educated about other religions, races and about people of other backgrounds than the narrow confines of what you were taught at your parents’ knees or in your 12 years of schooling, whether public or religious. I am an older person and I am still learning. Narrow minded people who cling to outdated ideas sadden me. We could have a wonderful vibrant country if people would get their heads unstuck from the past. It is 2012, not 1950.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Spoken like a true progressive. Some things are best left as they were, the US Constitution is one of those. Perhaps you should turn those alleged critical thinking skills on yourself and your compatriots back at “palingates”. Bye now.

patriot077
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patriot077

Rather condescending of you to suggest that perhaps the old fools are ignorant. Many of the people on this board have studied and researched the varied reasons our government is not working and are old enough to possess critical thinking skills as well.

I’m pleased to hear you are still learning and I highly recommend a focus on critical thinking skills. And while narrow minded people who cling to outdated ideas sadden you, we have sympathy for the young fools who just don’t know yet how much they really do not know, much less understand.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

I appreciate her for calling it like it is. And I agree with you Scoop, mittens are dirty here.

Paula J Rodman
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Paula J Rodman

Attack Muffin! Be on the lookout for THAT….sounds dangerous….and well, no wonder the fire is so big…there could be muffins out there outside the fire ring…SCARY.

(I think Ann Coulter may have the biggest muffin of them all…just sayin’)

David Scott Masiwchuk
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David Scott Masiwchuk

Stossel look uncomfortable when she started talking about media hypocrisy….As much as he likes to think otherwise he is part of that hypocrisy.

poptoy1949
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poptoy1949

I LIVE IN LOUISIANA. I WORKED THE OILFIELD ALL OF MY LIFE AFTER CLASSROOM TEACHING A FEW YEARS. TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THAT THE KENYAN IS “NOT” OILFIELD FRIENDLY. OBAMA IS ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER WHEN IT COMES TO OIL AND GAS DRILLING. WHY IS NO ONE SAYING WHAT HE REALLY IS——–“THE ONE” THAT IS PURPOSELY WORKING TO DESTROY THIS GREAT COUNTRY.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

I guess Christ wasted his time with you. God will forgive whom he shall forgive, but unto it is required you forgive ALL men.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

I guess Christ wasted his time with you. Baptism removes all sin. God will forgive who he shall forgive, but unto you, it is required to forgive ALL men.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I was just over at Gretawire and she said that she was with Newt at a rally and she looks over and sees two Romeny people, Bay Buchannon and Jason Chevez. Why the heck are they at a Newt rally?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

To find out what they need to steal from Newt.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Romneybama has all the ethics of a democrat, because he is a Kennedy-Kerry democrat, with out the testosterone and the bloat.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I linked the good news for Newt in Rassmussen’s national daily poll in another thread.

Here’s the bad news for Newt: Romney is up 7.2% over Newt in the RCP Average poll for Florida (specifically).

(EDIT: Update:

–Santorum is ahead of Ron Paul in the Florida RCP
–averages, but behind him in the Gallup’s national
–Daily poll. )

Anonymous
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An RCP poll? Please ignore that. They just want you to think there’s no reason to fight on, to give up and accept Romney, the white obama.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Not an “RCP Poll.” One thing that’s interesting about the RCP poll averages is that they don’t take any particular poll’s results at face value. They take the results of several polls and average them together.

All the usual caveats apply, but it’s an interesting concept.

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What is the establishment of the Republican party? Its the Bush’s. Its the Republican Senate. Its moderation and big government. Its EVERYTHING that comes out of the mouth of Karl Rove. Its 90% of the talking heads on TV and 95% of the “conservative” newspaper columnists. Its Ailes and Murdoch. Its the moneybags of the Republican party. I have no problem with there being an “establishment”. I just wish the establishment had true conservatives running it. I also wish the establishment was less manipulative and decietful. Pretending that they don’t even exist. The question is how organised is the establishment? I don’t know. Is there a Journolist type Email organisation. I would be surprised if their isn’t. It probably starts at the top with da Bush people, Ailes, and a few money people. And the message works its way down to the political leaders[McConnell-Boehner] who send it to the politicians… Read more »

Calvin Freiburger
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That still doesn’t explain why people who dislike Newt deserve to be automatically lumped in with “the Establishment.”

RefudiateObama2012
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RefudiateObama2012

I think Palin just proved my point I made below.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150516734848435

Anonymous
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Wow, what a read. Now she just has to show up and stump for Newt(my choice) or Santorum(my 2nd choice)

13Krieger
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Don’t mess with a mama Grizzly! She’s gonna get you RINO Romney!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Thanks Scoop !! Great interview with Sarah. Loved the passion. ‘Cuda is back !!

Anonymous
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Gingrich on Palin:

“MUST SEE TV”…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGhy8LVwAo

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Thank you.

GB

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

Sarah, would you want Newt in your family? Would you trust him if he was your husband? Sarah, I’m reminded when you talked negatively about FDR and Woodrow Wilson with whom Newt looks up to? Right Scoop, really? You think there is a conspiracy against Newt spearheaded by Romney?

Never thought conservatives would look the other way like liberals do. I would vote for Newt if need be but I cant stand everyone putting him on some kind of pedestal. I guess I look like the negative one since I’m the only one willing to point out his faults. Interestingly enough evryone did here also till he called out the press. Thats a great way to pick a president. Funny that he would bind himself to Reagan like they were cohorts and yet Reagan mentioned him once in his diaries.

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We all know his faults and lapses. That’s not the point. Compared to Romney, Newt can best articulate conservative principles. Where Romney says of O, “He’s a nice guy, but in over his head.”, Newt unflinchingly says, “He’s an Alinsky radical.” Get it?

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ryanomaniac, will you stop trying to pick a fight with everyone on here? You are not going to sway anyone with your rhetoric and bloviating..you don’t want Newt, we ALL get it! The majority of people on here are taking refuge from pro-Romney sites..we are all about ABR, so unless you have some mature, thoughtful remarks in defense of your guy, then…close it up!

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

I have posted what I think is right and have heard nothing but rhetoric from you. I respond to others and that’s it. 99% of the time I’m nice. Who are you to tell me what I can and can’t say? Did you read my post above? Offensive? You wish to censor what I say? I’ve heard nothing that was sensible said by you. You tell me that you get it that I don’t want Newt and that I should shut up but maybe I’m tired of you bloviating about Romney and repeating it over and over and over. Whats the difference? Don’t tell me I’m picking fights. How can you read what I said above and take it as fighting words? The article was about Sarah and Newt so what the Hell was I supposed to comment on jackass? I’ve posted very good points on Newt before that were… Read more »

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Like calling him a jackass makes it better?

Yes, your tone was harsh in your previous comment. You slighted this site and most of the regulars just to pick at the same old sores on Newt’s scaley hide, all of which have been vetted here–and at other sites popular with the regulars here, several times. And no one is trying to “shut you out of debate.”

If you’re going to throw elbows, don’t complain about getting called on it.

Anonymous
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Thanks K-Bob, by the hoo I am she not a he….but I appreciate you coming to my defense!

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

Coming to your defense? You have no defense cause you are unable to counter anything you disagree with. Its like arguing with a liberal between you and K-Blob. Only thing you two jokes have been able to come up with is “Ewwwwww mommy ryanomaniac hurt my feewings”. What a joke you two are. None of you idiots were for Newt until he got pissed at the press and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. You are nothing but followers. Wimps. Intellectually dishonest. In stupid speak, you’re an moron

Anonymous
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now I am an idiot….you are boring me now, go play with someone else.

Nukeman60
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/Yawn

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I know you’ve hung here for a while. That’s why I’ll give you a few minutes to edit that. If you want to engage in a flame war, take it outside.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I waited 20 minutes. You can re-edit it if you want. Just stick with Scoop’s rules about flame wars and namecalling.

Except anyone can call me names as long as they aren’t words Scoop doesn’t want here.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

After reviewing your comments in this thread and the previous thread you “hit”, I am going to give you some time to think things over. Particularly how you deal with others, you stated that you “got elbows thrown at your way first”, well upon looking over your comments that’s not quite the way things went. If you decide you want to come back you can “appeal it”. But for the time being you can cool your heels and think it over.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Sorry for that! Noted!

ryanomaniac
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I love this site dude. I’ve been reading and commenting on this site forever and I cant quite remember there being a “regulars” private club. There is no way you could think that what I said pertaining to TRS was offensive too them. No, you say all of Newts sores have been vetted? Thats wrong. Even TRS would tell you that.

To be fair I got elbows thrown at my way first and no, I dont get bothered by it as long as its fair.

Anonymous
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er-calling me a jackass does not your case make.

ryanomaniac
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I swear I’m saying this nicely right now. I re read what I said in my first post and I cant figure out for the life of me why that was offensive to the Scoop or anyone else. Did I miss the fine print where it says that you cant disagree with this site on an issue? Can you re read what I said again cause I think you may have gotten the wrong idea.

Yes I called you a jackass, sorry, but even if I hadn’t I’m not sure you if you would acknowledge what I said.

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I appreciate you saying sorry about the jackass comment…but your tone is strident, and somewhat angry. I know you are passionate, but you come across like you think we are all fools for not seeing what you see. I support Newt, if he fails, I support Santorum, if I have to I will fight for Romney against Obama.

Cheryl Fallon
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Cheryl Fallon

He’s not really picking a fight he just dares question what Sarah Palin has said and that never goes well on this blog site!

RefudiateObama2012
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RefudiateObama2012

Well according to people like Jeffry Lord, Mark Levin, Art Laffer, and Ed Rollins, Newt worked with the Reagan administration a lot. They were there.

As far as Newt’s failings, yes he sure has some. By defending Newt, Palin is not saying that his failings aren’t important to her. She’s looking at his whole resume, the good and the bad, and it seems that she’s convinced that he’s a better choice than Romney. And she knows that if Mitt knocks out Newt we are doomed repeat McCain 2008. Remember, it was many of Newt’s people who advised McCain in the general and trashed Palin behind her back.

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

Thank you very much for a concise answer and nicely put at that. I respect it.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Your could maybe have some glimmer of a decent argument here if you have been for Romney all along. If not, then you are accusing this site and a lot of us, of doing what you must also do this election cycle: deal with flawed candidates. This site has been open on the process of supporting candidates from day one, and has pointed out the flaws, as most of us here have also done. But you have five choices: The midwife of Obamacare The former Adulterer and Insider The anti-Gay marriage crusader and former insider The man with a leftist Foreign Policy Write-in/Stay home Those are the flaws you must deal with. Are you seriously going to persist in some holier-than-thou critique of this site for daring to choose from among the flawed, in an open and civil way? Or are you simply shilling for Romney, despite his flaws, and… Read more »

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

I don’t care for ANY of them. ANY. I’m sorry for underestimating peoples sensibilities. I’ve been in Vancouver for the past two or three weeks and haven’t watched the news and had no idea about Newt bashing. I just find it fascinating that when I left no one was pulling for Newt. Most of the negatives about Newt I learned from posts from this site. There were links to articles and vids to boot. The five choices you pointed out were excellent but don’t call me a shill. I feel that has been going on for Newt. “Right Scoop, really? You think there is a conspiracy against Newt spearheaded by Romney?” Thats what you responded to with this. “Are you seriously going to persist in some holier-than-thou critique of this site for daring to choose from among the flawed, in an open and civil way?” I’m quoting you there. What… Read more »

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I don’t hate anyone. And we’ve discussed Newt’s shortcomings heavily here for months. So yeah, that’s definitely in holier-that-thou territory. Big time.

I doubt anyone perceives “I’m sorry for underestimating people’s sensibilities” as anything other than piling on the insult.

People here are among the most sensible folks you’re ever likely to meet. Why not try again with chip removed from your shoulder?

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

You took that as an insult? You don’t need to tell me how people on this site are? Who are you? Are you like the homeowners association or something? I love this site pencil dick and I’m tired of you getting your panties in a wad. I was probably reading this site way before you which doesn’t matter in the first place. I apologized before if ANYthing I said hurt someones feeling or rubbed someone wrong. I still mean that except for you.

I don’t know if your momma didn’t powder your little bean bag this morning or what but you need to get a grip. I don’t know how you have made it life being so timid or so easily offended.

I’ve disagreed with TRS before and they commented back with a counter argument and didn’t scream like a little girl. We agreed to disagree. Grow a pair pusscake.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

What I am is a guy telling you that you have insulted this site, and most of the people who hang out here. I asked you to try again without the chip on your shoulder.

You have dispensation to call me names if that’s what passes for argument in your mind, but this is a warning to stop the flames against the site and the regulars. You don’t have to be civil on the internet, but you do here. I suggest you drop it.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

‘I don’t care for ANY of them’ — Ryan

So, if you’ve picked ‘write in/stay home’, then why don’t you?

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

So when this race started you knew who you would vote for? Fu*k, what is going on today when people take one sentence from what I’ve said and write commentary on it? None of these guys were who I hoped for when the election noise started. Get it?

Nukeman60
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I’m not sure that you get it. Too bad, for you.

Cheryl Fallon
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Alot of people want a “true” conservative and since their girl Sarah didn’t run whatever she hints at they run with. And she pointed at Newt as did her husband Todd and now all of a sudden he is the man!

I think all the candidates are flawed in some way but I also think they all offer MORE than what Obama does-I am willing to gamble on them rather than take another 4 years of Barack and Michelle where I know for sure will continue to do incredible harm to America.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

By the way, I only mention the anti-Gay marriage thing as a flaw because Santorum has managed to become known as “that anti-gay guy.” He could be strongly against gay marriage, like the vast majority of people around the planet, and simply Reaganize his responses on the issue, but he always let himself get trapped in “sound bite hell” over it. That’s why it’s a flaw.

It’s the one thing that makes him difficult to sell to moderate Dems, even though a huge number of moderate Dems don’t support gay marriage, either, especially among those over 35 years of age.

After this last debate, I still think he can improve his standings in some upcoming races, and I hope he does.

Anonymous
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no one is putting him on a pedestal…he is full of warts but that isn’t Gov. Palin’s point..

Anonymous
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they’re not putting him on a pedestal.She does believe in forgivness,redemption and that people can reform.I also believe this as well. I think Newt has done this . if there was even the hint of scandal the press would be all over it. As for falling for the deliberate editing of clips to make it appear he was/is anti Reagan There are several sites that show the whole speech and he is most definitely a REAGAN SUPPORTER. And if that’s not good enough We have Nancy Reagan herself giving a speech in 1995 SAYING RONNIE HAS PASSED THE TORCH TO NEWT. I don’t know how old you are maybe you were to young to remembe but, Nancy Reagan was very protective of Pres. Reagan. Anyone who was negative,disrespectful,or insulting were gone .She said Ronnie has passed the torch to Newt You can take it as Gospel.Put that next to Ronmey… Read more »

Linky11
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Fox has been drifting leftward. One of their main shareholders is a Saudi entity, hence the blunted references to anything Shariah. Most things go the way of entropy, Fox included.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Thank you Lord for scoop!

Linky11
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Linky11

Re the Saudi entity-to a point.

It’s Soros that is behind this shift to the left. Once Beck was fired, all bets were off. It’s all there in those links-I have been following this story very closely for a long, long time.

It’s not just FOX. It goes a lot deeper than that. Soros has a super PAC and anyone that gets in Romney’s way is trampled on.

Jim F.
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Obama Blocked From Registering For Alabama State Primary Until Eligibility Is Validated By Court.

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/13/obama-blocked-from-registering-for-alabama-state-primary-until-eligibility-is-validated-by-court/

StNikao
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There is a similar case in the State of Georgia courts as well.

Southnsoul
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And obviously the Republican establishment doesn’t want Newt elected either. I wish Sarah would forget about her contract with Romney-loving, Fox News and endorse, Newt.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

My premonition was inaccurate. I thought she might be in Florida this week / weekend. I am still curious about the “Bermuda Triangle” of Mr. Bannon, Mr. Breitbart and Mrs Palin. Something seems to be afoot there, or maybe it is just my hope there is.

GB

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Seems I heard Billy o and the Kraut-man mocking and being unable to define the term “establishment”, last night. Let me help them out. It is those who will dig in their heels against sudden and relentless reform because they have a ve$ted interest in the crony capitalism and permanent political class that they have nurtured themselves on, all of these years. You want bipartisan support on some issue in Washington? Just bring up the name of a person who would actually change the game! They all hate and fear that, unilaterally!

RefudiateObama2012
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When Palin uses the term, “establishment”, she’s referring to the GOP machine and its facilitators in the right-leaning media such as National Review and the Weekly Standard, as well as individual writers and commentators such as Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, Mona Charen, David Frum, and Charles Krauthammer. She knows that they are a monolithic cabal that coordinate their efforts. Would anyone be surprised if an R-based Journolist was uncovered? Palin recognizes that the conservative movement, including the Tea Party, is up against the media, the Dems, and the power brokers in the GOP. She understands that if conservatism is ever to win out, it starts in the city halls, the school boards, the statehouses, and the House and Senate. Until we have a large number of true conservatives in elected positions on all levels of government, the uphill battle will never be truly won. She understands that the only way… Read more »

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You can guarantee if she was in this race, she would be a huge threat to Romney and they would be trying to destroy her as well, from both sides by so-called conservatives/republicans and liberal lame stream media… The only thing is I don’t think the establishment could stop Palin with the tea party and conservative tsunami behind her!!!

sDee
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Thank you for this one TRS!

After a week full of Newt Romnetum garbage, Ron Paul is starting to look good. Sarah Palin was just what I needed. She is always directly on target.

Anonymous
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RUSH LIMBAUGH‘S BROTHER DAVID ’GOES ROGUE’ ENDORSES SANTORUM IN FLORIDA

—http://www.theblaze.com/stories/breaking-rush-limbaughs-brother-david-goes-rogue-endorses-santorum-in-florida/

Celeste Christi
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The people that refuse to see the forest for the trees are amazing. Who believes the establishment GOP just wants what’s good for Americans? Anyone? If so, you’re a fool. All political parties want is power. Period. The people be damned. Newt Gingrich is the only politician on the stage that has delivered on promises made to the American people. This is why the establishment so dislikes him. His interest lies with America, not with the status quo. Thatcher said she was unable to right the ship of England in the way Reagan righted the ship of America because of Socialized Medicine. Whether it’s a Democrat or a Republican, control is the name of the game, and Socialized Medicine is at the heart of it. Romney will continue our drive toward Socialism. Newt will not. Romney will continue to allow Jihad in America. Newt will not. Romney will manage the… Read more »

Anonymous
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You go girl!

Celeste Christi
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Celeste Christi

Thank you!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

STANDING OVATION!!

Celeste Christi
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Celeste Christi

Wow – That’s nice – Thanks!

patriot077
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I believe the great Thomas Sowell said something like that too. That Newt has warts but he might just be the very man for these times.

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2011/12/20/the_past_and_the_present

Celeste Christi
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What a wonderful compliment. I greatly admire Thomas Sowell. Thank you for the link.

StNikao
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Sarah is absolutely right and this has is confirmed by others – http://www.therightscoop.com/nros-newt-trashing-exposed-as-false/#comment-422572477

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Apples to Oranges. Nobody is more intensely misrepresented that Mr Paul. This is an amazing contradiction of principle by Todd Palin’s wife. She is outspokenly bitter against her brother in law, and is not opposed to the divorcing of him and his wife (Sarah’s sister), because of his unfailthfulness. Here she is defending someone that is still committing adultery against his first wife, and who has “covered his garment with violence”, being treacherous against the wife of his youth. That’s what Jesus says. Mr. Gingrich is hardened in sin and pride, and that in itself should disqualify him from pursuing his own continuing ambitions. This man is practically doomed according to scripture, but Todd’s wife wants him to continue with his sharp tounged wit, so she can enjoy the entertainment. Herein lies the glaring difference between Mr Paul and the other men; he sees his responsibility to represent the message… Read more »

Anonymous
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Rand Paul’s father will never be president

Anonymous
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Perfect response. He lost me after apples.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Fruitist!

StNikao
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Ron Paul’s foreign policy is problematic as Sarah said…but it is not the biggest problem with him. (I agree with him and the video above on foreign bases and foreign aid for the most part)

The biggest problem is his desire to end the war on drugs and to legalize drugs and prostitution… is DANGEROUS AND UTTERLY IRRESPONSIBLE when Islamic terror organizations have taken over global drug, sex trafficking and porn cartels including the ruthless Mexican, European, Asian syndicates.
Under this policy, the US would become like Mexico.

Already people are being kidnapped, and beheaded bodies have been found in the US over the last several weeks.
http://www.allgov.com/ViewNews/Mexican_Cartels_Italian_Mafia_Move_Drugs_Through_US_and_Into_Europe_90427
http://www.krgv.com/news/expert-says-beheadings-in-u-s-look-like-work-of-cartels/
Unless he changes his stand on drugs and prostitution, I (and many others) will continue decry his candidacy.

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Misrepresentation. He says it is the responsibility of the particular states. He stated many times that he is personally opposed to all vice. He is opposed to the ‘federal’ gov. trying to deal with these types of moral issues. Some states would foolishly allow these things, but they would hopefully suffer unimaginable losses, and alienate potential residents. The federal solution is inneffective, and ill equiped to deal with moral crimes like chemical abuse of the body, and whoredom. That being said, the individual states might do much better in the area of devising laws for the prevention of these vices. Centralized planning is very insufficient and problematic with these issues. Remember one critical point that Mr Paul has stated repeatedly; whatever a person chooses to do to himself, he cannot expect the government to be there as an insurance policy. As far as pornography is concerned, the US is king… Read more »

Anonymous
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The cartels you fear only exist because drugs are illegal.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

You don’t seriously want to use the wayback machine to defend Ron Paul.

A side-by-side comparison between the Racialist and the Adulterer over the years favors Newt. By far.

Was Newt a sinner? sure. Are we all? You bet.

This is now. Analyze it for now and Newt and Santorum are the best of the four.

Anonymous
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He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.(1Jn 3:8-10) Unless you believe the grace of God to be a license to sin, your assertion is false. Mr Paul is alleged to be racist, but without real proof, this is nothing more that slander, and something to be denounced. The ‘side by side’ statement about the racist and adulterer is astonishing. Both would be equally wicked according to scripture, but as far… Read more »

American Duckie
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Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 I’m not saying whether Newt is or isn’t classified as one of those in verse 11, only God can know that.

Once upon a time people may have thought much the same as you do about Newt being doomed, only they thought it about Saul. People change.

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Not so. We can know according to a persons deeds. God only knows the thoughts and intents of the heart, but this is in reference to those who are not committing any outward sin that can be detected. When someone is continuing in an unholy life, they are not one of Jesus followers. Mr Gingrich is “committing adultery” according to Jesus;

Luk 16:18 Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and everyone who marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

It’s astonishing that you would be astonished by such a comparison; …and then try to defend the old racialist by diving into details that still show that Ron Paul isn’t morally superior in any way.

Anonymous
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K-Bob, why do you think Ron Paul is racist?

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Racialist. He used race as a scare tactic for quite a while. It’s a hot topic (over 6 Million hits on google for “ron paul racism”), so we don’t need to rehash it.

Of course, it was another time. Just like it was back when Newt could still see his hoo hah.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

StNikao
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StNikao

However, if a religion, ideology or philosophy has practices and mandates that violate the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Laws of these United States of America, that group may not practice those.

For example:
Satanism – human sacrifice
Islam – honor killing, rape jihad, political/financial/cyber jihad, polygamy, Sharia, racial persecution, etc.
Marxist, Communist, anarchist groups – overthrow of US, threats of US officials, sabotage…

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

The only crime of those you cite, that is mentioned specifically in the US Constitution, is that of Treason/Sedition.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Equivocation. No religious test does not mean that there should be perfect indifference to a persons moral principles. Certain criminal acts would preclude one from serving in public office. That is a moral judgment.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Actually, you appear to be the one engaging in equivocation here, as Adultery while having consequences in family law as it relates to divorce, is not a criminal offense and does not preclude or exclude an individual from office. Morals in the end are subjective, particularly under law. As no form of religious law holds sway here, your point is irrelevant to Gringrich’s eligibility under law.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Choose for yourself, but “we ought to obey God rather than man.” Mans law may not forbid many things, like adultery, but Gods law forbids it, and one word from the Lord is enough to condemn the sin, and will be sufficient to thrust the offender into everlasting torment, unless they forsake their sin and obey the will of God. “Morals are subjective” is dangerous and fatal. Jesus is an absolutist, not a relativist. The accuracy of your statement, (as it relates to mans law), is only enough to prove how gross the apostasy is in this country. God is immovable and impartial. The judgment will reckon up all the accounts. Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of… Read more »

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

God’s judgement, not yours.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.(Mat 7:20)

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.(1Co 2:14-15)

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
(1Jn 3:9-10)

American Duckie
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American Duckie

“This man is practically doomed according to scripture,” While it’s true he has not obeyed Christ in his past, who are we to say he’s practically doomed? We don’t know his heart and what he has between himself and God.
I’m not a Newt fan, but that’s a bit judgemental. People can and do change.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Did not say it was impossible, but ‘extremely rare’. Scripture supports this, and many defenders of the faith “once delivered unto the saints” understood this very thing.

The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein. (Pro 22:14)

He is walking in the sin of adultery according to Jesus; (Luke 16:18)

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

You seem to like to address Gov. Palin as ‘Todd Palin’s wife’ or ‘Todd’s wife’, as if that is some kind of slam (my interpretation), but yet you refer to Dr. Paul as Mr. Paul. Should you not address him as ‘Mrs. Paul’s little fish stick’ instead, to keep consistent?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(1Co 11:3)

Jim Botts
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Jim Botts

Ok, so the establishment doesn’t like being called that name. Ok, lets start refering to them as Country Club Republicans. There, how do you guys in DC like that?

RefudiateObama2012
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RefudiateObama2012

See my post above. Let’s call them The Corrupt Bastards Club of The USA.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Nope. CBC (Congressional Black Caucus) is already taken (same description, tho).

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Hillbuzz christened the GOP establishment the “Cocktail Party Republicans” back in 2008. The line is that the GOP establishment doesn’t like *anyone* or *anything* that could possibly disrupt their endless rounds of *important* cocktail parties. Could anything be more spot on?

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Many liberals belong to country clubs. I am offended. It is bad enough to play golf with them.

Art Telles
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Art Telles

“death panel” meet “attack muffin”…

In the first 29sec. video, Sarah identifies the obstacles to honest vetting of Republican candidates.

– “the establishment’s attacks” against Gingrich
– “rewrite history” of what Gingrich has stood for
– “liberal media”
– “progressives”
– “Democrats”
– “attack muffin” verbiage is attached to Gingrich but not to other candidates

Art

PunditPawn
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PunditPawn

Thank God the big hair has been chained down.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

I just read The Corner and it’s pathetic. Mona Charen has a piece up complaining about the emails she’s getting from Newt defenders. Her argument? Neither Newt or Mitt are true conservatives but Newt is much worse than Mitt.

I’m not kidding:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/289511/rino-mona-charen

And she’s using the tried and true Beta Male tactic of calling herself a RINO because it bothers her when other people call her a RINO. And yes, Beta Make Dickless Wonders can be women.

patriot077
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patriot077

I used to read NRO regularly until their slant on things started veering to the left. Now I rarely visit except to read Mark Steyn’s columns.

I seem to recall Rush saying during the mid-terms (I think) that he didn’t know what the guys over at NRO were thinking.

cabensg
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cabensg

I was a big fan of Stossel when he was co-host on (was it ABC) can’t remember. But his Libertarian stances in his writing have kinda cooled me on him. It could be just me but he seemed to have a rather condescending attitude in this interview but It’s been so long since I’ve watched him that could be just how he is.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I’ll take Stossel any day, even if his libertarianism isn’t always conservative. He is a voice in the journalistic wilderness. A heretic refugee of the Left-Wing MSM who has converted to our side. He loves and references books like The Road To Serfdom. There’s relatively little not to love.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

I liked Stossel until he started going on O’Reilly. Now I can’t stand him. Bill treats him like crap, just as he did Beck, and Stossel just takes it. OK, fine, he’s got no choice, but I’m just so sick of spineless weasels kissing O’Reilly’s ass for a paycheck.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

We need all the friends we can get. You can download some of Stossel’s audio shows from American Conservative University at http://acu.libsyn.com/

Ozzie
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Ozzie

Haven’t watched BOR in probably years now, but I remember that…. He insults them the whole segment and mocks their stories. I’m not sure how Stossel takes it now, but at first it seemed like he was trying hard to put up with Bill’s ego.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Hasn’t changed much (so you saved years). But now, he rarely let’s a guest even finish a sentence. Someone starts a good point and he cuts them off with his standard bloviating. Makes me want to scream, ‘Shut up and let them finish. I want to hear it.’

sDee
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sDee

I hope Stossell keeps doing what he does. There is sp little balance to the 99.9% of talkin heads on TV who drag us toward the central state.

But did I hear him say he respects Peggy Noonan?!

Ricardo Galvan
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Ricardo Galvan

Nothing wrong with libertarianism. It’s the Ron Paul-ish foreign policy propaganda that’s the problem.

Sam R
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Sam R

I agree that the establishment is trying to take down Newt, that is obvious but I think he is also part of the establishment just not the chosen part. The establishment has clearly chosen Romney to be their candidate. Which come on people, we ran an establishment candidate last time in McCain and we saw how well that worked out.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

It was the establishment that helped kick him out and put him in the wilderness. The establishment hates him because he never played ball with them.

patriot077
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patriot077

And the Dems hate him too because he took away their majority position. That’s why I like him now.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

“…And I think someone wearing mittens is behind the whole smear campaign.”

Good one RScoop!

Have a good weekend everyone!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Sarah is our girl. (And that is not sexist, just an expression of affection for a trusted voice.)

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Isn’t it annoying to have to always perface something about not being sexist, or homophobic, racist, because the PC revolution has had it’s talons imbedded in our culture? Having said that Sarah is our girl, and she may just come out swinging in person on the campaign trail..

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Any woman that can shoot and field dress a moose is sexy, period.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I know, the woman is out of this world. I look up to her as a mom, and someone who cares about the future of our kids. My hubby, who is not a political junky like me, surprised me the other day when a family friend said he thought Sarah was a dumb bimbo..he got up and yelled at him. I just sat there surprised and impressed. He told our family friend anyone that can be a leader of a state, have a happy family, and hold true to her faith should be admired, not disparaged. er-but I don’t find her sexy..hee hee

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Yes, and if it was not for her marital credentials, back in the day…

GB

Conservative_Hippie
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Conservative_Hippie

She is definately old school, that’s for sure. And I mean that in a nice way smile

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The heck with PC,sexist crap.I’ll say it,She’s one Hot Smokin lady.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Hey GreenBeret! smile I’ve missed you.

As for Sarah, from a woman’s perspective, I wish I looked like her and had more of her strength. God Bless her.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Missed you.Out for a while fighting Grizzly bears.LOL.Trying to get up to speed on news.I get the impression you would smoke her.You definitely have her licked with your wit and intelligence.Glad you missed me.Awwww,I feel loved and flattered by you’re endearing comment.

sDee
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sDee

I have quit. I love it.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Amen!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Wow! All that woman and her man on this current trail…

And you know the Mama Grizzly will come out fighting “like a girl.”

GB

ARTHUR STEINBERG
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ARTHUR STEINBERG

Just have checked WinningOurFuture
http://www.youtube.com/user/Wi

ads about rmoneycare in action especially in killing parents innocent children

He is monster/ evil creature, and as nominee will be dead’s punishment for TEA party and conservatives.

Newt/Palin 2012 Newt/Santorum 2012

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Arthur thanks for nailing this thing. Romney has not done one conservative thing in his entire life. Not personal, business or political. To listen to Ann Coulter talk about Newt and Romney one would think it was Newt who was Romney and Romney who was Newt. She calls Newt a non-Conservative. You reallllllllly could not make this up.

Romney is a vacuous. He is as far from conservative as one can be. His whole history is littered with liberal policy making.

Expose the man who would be king for what he is….

StNikao
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StNikao

‘The Machine’ has already gotten that video removed.

sDee
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sDee

I think it may just been a bad link.

http://www.youtube.com/user/WinningOurFuture

ARTHUR STEINBERG
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ARTHUR STEINBERG

Thank You for correction

cabensg
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cabensg

Ya! Ya! Ya! Not much of a defense but better than nothing.

Calvin Freiburger
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Calvin Freiburger

Pro-Newt conservatives are doing to the word “establishment” what liberals did to the word “racism” – emptying it of all meaning with reckless overuse. It’s especially distressing to see Sarah Palin complicit in this.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Let’s see, you are comparing the liberals use of racism over 60 years with non establishment types, like me, using it for two election cycles. That’s 4 years, since I think you may be a bit slow.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

“Establishment” has not lost its meaning. Levin just used it the other night, when debunking the “Newt is a marxist and Reagan antagonist” meme floated yesterday. Establishment refers to the dug-in, fortressed interests in the GOP, who are not conservatives at heart. They are the Rockefeller, North Eastern semi-liberal faction of the party. They are entrenched. Hence, “Establishment”. It’s a good word that still retains its gravity. We should not be afraid to use it because it draws the contrast with grass roots conservatism.

DaMz
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DaMz

I’m not for Newt and I agree with her.
ITS VERY CLEAR THERE IS FORCE AT WORK HERE.
Even Stevie Wonder can see that. Dont deny it. just own it.
They we can fight fair and square.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

That’s the dumbest analogy I’ve ever heard.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Come on Calvin. I think thats absurd. You do know that there is an establishment right? If you do can you errrr kinda guess who they want to win? Hmmm, maybe take a WAG. Go on I dare ya. See, now tell me that Bob Dole is not a part of the establishment. (Yeppers that paragon of Conservative values Bob Dole) whom I believe Newt accused of being a tax collector for the welfare state also came “out” against Newt. Oh my gosh !!! Bob Dole came out against Newt!!! Wow. The Rep Establishment have a lot to be sorry for. This calculated take down of a conservative like Newt fills me with utter disgust. They are no different from the libs. All these attacks are straight out of Alinsky. Complete Alinsky playbook. If you can’t or wont see it then I guess you can merrily traipse into the booth… Read more »

Calvin Freiburger
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Calvin Freiburger

Sure, there’s “an establishment.” But the way Levin, Lord, Palin, etc. are using it dishonestly and arbitrarily defines anyone who opposes Newt Gingrich — anyone who remembers his support for a FEDERAL individual mandate, Dede Scozzafava, embryonic stem cell research, etc., and concludes he’s not necessarily a better candidate than Romney — as part of it. Which is insane.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Classic straw man. Telling people (Palin, etc.) what they think.

Levin uses words very carefully, and with a great deal of intent (something which is true of most–not all–leading conservative commentators). You don’t have to like what he says, but to level a charge of dishonesty and arbitrariness requires some proof.

Calvin Freiburger
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Calvin Freiburger

So Palin & Levin have specified which Newt critics are Establishment shills and which aren’t? They’ve specified what makes them members of the Establishment, beyond simply opposing Newt? If so, I’d like to see where.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

They have mostly resisted naming names. Look, most Tea Party types know what “The Establishment” means. So do most regular Joes who listen to Rush, Levin, etc.

“Nick” has a comment laying it out decently in this thread. It’s not some big mystery.

Calvin Freiburger
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Calvin Freiburger

So in other words, no, they haven’t done anything better than lazily lump Newt’s critics together under a label they know some Tea Partiers will have a Pavlovian response to. Gotcha.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Do you have a point, or are you just here to slander talk radio hosts with “other words” that you’ve invented?

Calvin Freiburger
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Calvin Freiburger

You can’t respond to reasoned argument, so you whine about slander – ironically, while defending Jeff Lord and Mark Levin’s smearing of Elliot Abrams. I think we’re done here.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I used reason to point out that you have been making up “other words” and then arguing against those. If you’re done making up other words, then stop accusing me of “defending” anyone, and reply to what I (or anyone else) actually wrote.

Or not. Makes no diff to me.

RefudiateObama2012
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RefudiateObama2012

delete

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I’d say the level of “reck” is substantial. Just look at the list of Romney endorsing folks vs. those endorsing Newt and Santorum.

Says it all, really.

Is_Sense_Common
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Is_Sense_Common

We can call it the “political class” if you’d prefer.

hemultipliedus
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hemultipliedus

Geez. Inferno in the fireplace! Get the fire extinguisher!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I thought the same thing.The lady must have been a Girl Scout,she has that fire ripping. Break out the Marshmallows.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Hot Dogs first, dinner before dessert.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Dog-a-mallows.Newest MRE.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Smore-Dogs?

K-Bob
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K-Bob

We’ll probably see those at the gas station convenience stores soon.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

It gets really cold in Alaska.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Easy to keep the brewski’s cold.

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