Tavis Smiley: Christians blow up more people in America than Muslims

So, I guess the way this works is that if you are American, then that makes you a de facto Christian. Hmmm. For some reason, I wouldn’t refer to those who commit violent acts of murder as Christians. Not saying they are mutually exclusive, but Jesus doesn’t teach us to kill those who don’t follow Him. And like Pat said this morning on Beck’s radio show, when was the last time you’ve heard of someone who went ‘postal’ shouting “In the name of Jesus” before gunning people down?



Tavis Smiley is what’s wrong with this country (H/T Townhall.com):

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John Dineen
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John Dineen

how is this guy not in the obama administration….ah…oh….he is

Tracy Mathias
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Tracy Mathias

AND i have seen more Christians cut off the heads of their prisoners TOO . This clown has selected memory and no sence of reality . Typical liberial socialist puppet

Art Telles
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Art Telles

Dhimmi down to dummy down…

The lady is a lady because she did not point out that the Smiley comment is a classic “dhimmi” equivalence comment that makes a victim of the Islamic “perp” while at the same time the comment bashes the victims of Islamic jihad.

A dhimmi is a submitter to Islam, which means submission.

Tavis Smiley is not a dummy, of course, but dhimmi comments are dummy comments when the Islamic “perp” in dar al-Islam is defended and the victim of the Islamic “perp” in dar al-harb is bashed.

Art
STOP! Islamization Of America

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

If he were to make the argument “Blood shed in the name of Religion” then proceed back through the worlds history of religious wars he might be able to make some sort of case on Christianity vs Islam ,but the best he could hope for there might be a dead heat. However in US vs Islam,killing in the name of religion? I'd say we could not even begin to get out of the gate in comparison, considering the what about 1200 year(give or take?) headstart Islam has on the US.

TheNewAtheist
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TheNewAtheist

Where he is wrong is implying all the killing sprees we have in the U.S. are done in the name of Christianity. While some have been, most aren't. Mass murderers in the U.S. are usually more about Earthly concerns, not a glided afterlife. The author is right that we don't hear people yell “in the name of Jesus” before detonating a suicide vest in a mall, but the Hutaree militia was certainly flirting with terrorism.

Anytime one group claims a divine mandate, or uses religion to justify their otherwise unjustifiable actions, we are asking for serious problems.

Acidock
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Acidock

And something else to point out is the reaction to these attacks and the attacks of Muslims in Islamic countries. For instance the abortion clinic/Olympic bomber was hunted down by local, state, and federal authorities. When finally caught he was given a fair trail and then was sentenced. In Islamic countries if you bomb something that is non-Muslim or something based on non-Islamic culture, you are treated like a hero. For example Western style shoe stores, beauty saloons, even books stores that have non-Islamic books. I'm surprised Ayaan Hirsi Ali let him get away with his nonsense. Usually she is so outspoken she would not have put up with his crap. She has been working in the US for some time now and is very familiar with the comments of Islam apologists. She put one Canadian leftist in his spot when he tried to make the same type arguments by… Read more »

Acidock
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Acidock

Tavis Smiley is so full of it. I think at most you will be able to find maybe 5-7 attacks, in the last 25 years on America soil, that Christians have used the bible as their guiding principle to kill.

In 2009 Muslims used the Qur'an as their guiding principle for a lot more attacks on US soil than Christians who have held up the bible and screamed that they are following its doctrine.

Travis Smiley is an Islam apologist who is using the very tired and broken 'moral equivalency' pseudo argument.

He is full of sand.

Mike Leavitt
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Mike Leavitt

Smiley (Think of the cover of Jonah Goldberg's book) may be the stupidest man alive… seriously? Columbine was radical Christians? Moron!

crazee
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crazee

Look, Muslims kill on behalf of their religion and cite it as a religious duty. If Muslims were killing people for political power or money, nobody would say “Islamic violence”. It's not that they are Muslim, it's that their murder is religiously motivated. By their own words.

There is no Christian group claiming that the New Testament tellas them to slay the unbelievers whereever you find them. If they kill, it is unrelated to their religion…or at least any religious connection is hard to find.

Is this willfull blindness, or ignorance? How can someone not grasp that there is a diffeance between a religion with murderers in it, and a religion that endorses murder?

ndes
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ndes

“when was the last time you’ve heard of someone who went ‘postal’ shouting “In the name of Jesus” before gunning people down?”

Does the guy who killed an abortion doctor count?

Mark Ward
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Mark Ward

First of all, Tavis is FACTUALLY INCORRECT (that's WRONG in simple terms)…

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (Columbine) did NOT “blow up” anyone (they SHOT them). So, Tavis' reference to Columbine (as an example of Christians BLOWING UP more people in this country than Muslims) is just plain WRONG.

SO, now that we've established that Tavis Smiley doesn't know what he's talking about (or he deliberately LIES) – perhaps we can get him to take a few moments and ACTUALLY ENUMERATE the Christian Bombings (which he asserts take place “every day” in this country)… Hmmmm? Tavis??? Waiting….

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Don't get me started on Tavis he is as bad as the fawning Obamanite Charlie Rose. Its really too bad the clip ended where it did,cutting off her response, it looked like Tavis was about to get his little soapbox utterly destroyed. Ms Ali knows her stuff when it comes to living under Islam and Sharia. Found a clip of an interview of her with Beck when he was at CNN, if anybody is interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3tgY_eI_P0&feat

KenInIL
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KenInIL

Tavis is wrong on this one! He is being MSM. Christians who do mass killings in this country do it because they have personal problems and ususally need attention or revenge on whatever institution. They do not do it for religious purposes. We do not have Baptists killing Catholics, Catholics vs. Jews or Muslims or any other combination. THe only one is Muslims vs. non-Muslims(infidels) and Muslims vs. Muslims(honor killing).

Fireplug52
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Fireplug52

What an idiot. The lady obviously knows what she is talking about. Smiley just had to play the card that he sees something worse than what she has. Sounds like penis envy to me.

danieltumser
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danieltumser

Do I detect the pungent stench of the No True Scotsman Fallacy in here? I do believe so.

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