Texas: Christmas day slaughter was Islamic honor killing

I saw this story a couple of days ago where an Iranian man, Aziz Yazdanpanah, dressed as Santa Claus killed six family members that included “Nasrin Rahmaty, 55, who was Yazdanpanah’s wife; Nona Yazdanpanah, 19, his daughter; Ali Yazdanpanah, 15, his son; Zohreh Rahmaty, 58, his sister-in-law; Hossein Zarei, 59, his brother-in-law; and Sahra Zarei, 22, his niece.

My first thought was that it was possibly an Islamic honor killing, however there was so little information released and of course our politically correct media isn’t going to label it that.



However, Jihad Watch has found an article by the Dallas Morning News that provides details that sure sound like what we’ve come to know as a classic Islamic honor killing. At the bottom of the article the DMN provides insight from the daughter’s classmates:

DALLAS MORNING NEWS – …But a more ominous portrait emerged of Yazdanpanah in interviews with some of his daughter’s other classmates.

She would come to school crying and telling us her dad was crazy,” said Lacie Reed, 18. “He wouldn’t let her wear certain things. He was always taking her phone away, checking her call history and checking her text messages.”

Friends said Nona’s father had installed cameras all around the home so he could watch the family’s comings and goings. Others said he nailed her bedroom window shut so she could not sneak out at night and see her boyfriend.

“She couldn’t date at all until she was a certain age, but when he was going to let her date she couldn’t date anyone outside of their race or religion,” Reed said.

Yiselle Alvarenga, 18, said Nona’s mother and brother seemed to come to her aid when her father punished her.

“He would take her phone away and her mother would give it back to her and her brother would let her use his phone,” Alvarenga said. “She was doing good. She was just excited that her life was going to start and she was going to have control of it.”

If any of you remember seeing the Fox News documentary on Islamic Honor killings in America, you’ll remember how obsessive the father became about his daughter in who she could date, where she could go, what she could wear, etc. This sounds like the same kind of obsession which is why Jihad Watch calls it an honor killing.

Click over to Jihad Watch to read the entire article.

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bobemakk
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bobemakk

But according to Ron Paul, “we must be nice to these Muslim bums..” Ridiculous.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

This link is for Maxine but will hearten you all. It shows the brotherhood of US Vets.

http://www.stillinthefightfilm.com/

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The girl was right…..her dad was crazy. It is a shame nobody else believed her.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If they were Muslim what would they be doing celebrating Christmas?? More of a Islamic culture thing as opposed to the religion exactly, but I suppose thats splitting hairs. Sad story though.

ryanomaniac
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I despise Islam and if this is an honor killing than this is just another slice of proof of how sick and evil these people are.

On another note. I don’t think telling your daughter what she can and can’t wear is anything new for any father. Neither is checking her phone history. My dad would nail windows shut if my sister were sneaking out.

I do side on the honor killing theory though.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

There is nothing to be said here.

Horrible story getting worse… Until concrete evidence comes out, we’ll never know whether it was ‘honor killing’ or ‘OCD’ or something else. The current information does point toward honor killings, however, only because we are very sensitive to that right now.

If it is an honor killing, which it very well may be, I don’t really know what to say. What can be said? I could berate the dead father… which does nothing: he’s dead. I could wail and mourn the dead family… which does nothing: they are dead.

I can, however, pray to He who is mighty to save. Everything else is either useless or self-damaging.

Regardless, there is nothing to be said here.

Allen Poe
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Just another ho hum day under Sharia. Not even newsworth in the Ob 2nd term. Of even as newsworthy as another drug bust exceeding 100 million. I wonder if some of this drug money doesn’t end up in Ob checking account?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Is this the case that just happen in Texas. In the middle class apartment complex.
Where they would not release the names?

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

A black man, shot my friend, (Red), a policeman between the eyes, during a domestic argument. The Dallas Morning news headline, was ‘Cop shot’. No names. no jail.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I am truly sorry for the loss of your friend.

Jimbo
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And again is anyone surprised by this. These people are low life scum.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

In the muslim POV the conflict has been resolved and there is peace – thus the religion of peace.

In a broader sense they want America to rest in ‘peace’.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I saw this yesterday over at frontpagemag.com With everything going on with so many Christians being slaughtered by the jihadists, what’s Dear Ole’ Hillary doing? (Please don’t throw anything at your monitor after reading this, as we like to stay in touch!) OIC, UN, tolerance, hate speech….. well, you get the idea.

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/27/diplomatic-supping-with-jihadist-devils-2/

Thanks to all that had my back today on this string!

Nukeman60
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Not to make light of a serious situation, but I wonder if we can get the Iraqi Christians on the endangered species list (next to the Polar Bears). Maybe then the politically correct people will pay more attention to their plight. One could only hope. sad

Anonymous
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Anonymous

And in Egypt, and most of the countries in the region. I know you are not making light of the situation, but you make a great point.

And BTW, did you know that the endangered species list includes many species that really aren’t endangered, but some enviro nutcase said they MIGHT become endangered without any proof?

Christians are being massacred by the thousands in many countries and all we get from this regime…. crickets! I’m sure if there were muslims being killed there would be OUTRAGE!

Nukeman60
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Yes, I mentioned the Polar Bears specifically because they are actually increasing, unlike Christians in Muslim countries.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Ain’t she grand, I got it about 5 hours before you. I almost threw up. And, just what did she give to Burma, secretly?

Virus-X
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I do not practice tolerance. If there is something, and/or, someone that I don’t like, I will not tolerate them, for any reason, for any length of time. If I believe something is wrong, I will not tolerate its practice in my presence. Either you leave, or I do, and that’s followed by a PERIOD. I do not like islam (lower case “i”, because I do not respect islam, nor it’s practitioners). I will not tolerate muslims in my house, under most circumstances. This is a religion that worships Satan, preaches that is is right to oppress based on race, religion and sexual preference and condones the murder of those that do not follow your orders, or the orders of their false god, Satan, and his insane, false prophet, Mohammed. People that practice Sharia in this country should face a prison sentence. Those that murder in the name of Sharia… Read more »

nuffsaid
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Homs- I think you may have just blown the doors off of the DHS office where the have the Tweet Trackers. Probably Janet Napolitanaho got texted at home.

Tolerance is not something you can take from me or demand from me. I give it when giving it make sense, common sense.

Regarding OPEN SEASON– not really a tune that you can whistle but it got my foot tapping.

Virus-X
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If the DHS thinks that was bad, then I’ll just flat out kick fatty’s door down: I truly wish a supporter of the 1st Amendment had been around when Satan Claus drew his weapon and knocked the back of his head out with 4 – 5 rounds from his own (or a well-placed shotgun blast to the face). I would much rather see their poor excuse for a father fueling the fires of Hell with his blood, than see his daughters die. To put it more bluntly, had I been armed and present, had I been able to open fire before he could’ve killed others, I’d’ve gladly returned to my Army taught double-tap head shots. Quite frankly, we need to hear more stories like this, with the villains turning up killed in a hail of bullets, buckshot and ballistic knives. Our laws lack teeth, because we lack the will to… Read more »

Cheryl Fallon
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Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Matthew 26:52

It’s difficult but it is the way of the cross if you know Him!

Virus-X
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Virus-X

Sophistry and crap. And Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they were amazed at Him. Mark 12:17 God made no bones about having no place in His kingdom for the worship of Baal, or Satan. Neither do I. God did not state that the death penalty for violent felons was unbiblical, considering He permitted it. There are the laws of Man and God, and the laws of Man (at least in this country, and depending on the state you’re in) state that if you unlawfully take a life, yours if forfeit. I simply stated that that would be a just punishment, and also expressed my preference for the method of execution. Furthermore, if anything is unbiblical, it is the asininity of constantly turning the other cheek. You get wronged, you give the guy a mulligan.… Read more »

Cheryl Fallon
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Cheryl Fallon

You live or speak in extremes…like some of the Muslims you hate!

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Obviously you haven’t read Koran.

Cheryl Fallon
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Cheryl Fallon

And hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Mark 2:17

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Christ said, those who do their alms in public have their reward, those who alm in private, shall be rewarded in heaven. What did Jesus hear,and Mark reply to, It was associating with sinners, not Muslims.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Christ said, if a FRIEND slap one cheek offer the other. Rend into Ceasar, that which is Ceasar’s. He does not own your life, strike him back, dead. Like all people, you look but do not see, the same as others do. You want to die for Christ, go to Arabia and preach Jesus. You want a free USA, you fight for it, every day, or lose it. Up to you.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Cheryl, Christ said, I come to add to the law, not change it. An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Taking out of context, living by the sword, does not mean submission. Take it all or nothing.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Anytime there are black Americans who:

mob a convenience store,
beat up an emigrant on a subway and take his money,
blast down the doors at Walmart and beat each other senseless over a pair of shoes,
rip through a clothing store and steal everything off the racks,
trap a teenage girl in her own home and be driven off by firemen with water canons,
assault a policeman trying to stop a riot,

the media shows the videos and reveals the identities of the perpetrators immediately.

Why does it take so long to reveal the identities when the perpetrator is Muslim? It seems there is a disparity, maybe even discrimination, when it comes to revealing the identities of some criminals over others. Criminals ought to get a lawyer and file suit.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Seems every riot I have seen, not one name mentioned, if black. My old, and not accepted, “Kill the rioters”, method stopped thousands of riots, in the history of man. Advanced, give me a break.

MontyRay
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Thanks for posting this RS. You can’t find this in the regular media relating this incident to an honor killing–all the while all the circumstances point that way. Mum’s the word in the media.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I live relatively close to Dearborn, and can say that I personally know of christians getting ran off of the corners by local muslims. It truly is a small scale middle east. I’m sure there are plenty of them celebrating this tragedy.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

TrueLev Try Sweden, where 100% of all rapes are committed, by Muslims. Your future, should you choose.

Jeff Smith
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Jeff Smith

So that Texas woman that killed all of her kids, was that an honer killing? Or is it just when some crazy Muslim flips out and goes over the deep end an honer killing.
I guess if that eases your collective conscience for the all of illegal war and murder of millions of innocent people then its ok to call it that.
Who would Jesus bomb?

Marti17
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The term ‘honor killing’ belongs to Islam and to THEM ALONE it means to get rid of the so-called blight on the family name i.e. ‘family honor’. This term is TOTALLY unheard of anywhere in any part of Western culture or practices.

It is THEIR NAME for THEIR ACT that is legal by THEIR LAWS but a crime in ours!!!

As for what would Jesus do? What did the Father do in Noah’s time, in Lot’s time?

What did Jesus say the Son of man (to whom He often referred as himself) was going to do in the future?? Look it up, St. Matthew 13: 37 – 50.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Jeff, crazy is crazy, okay? Quit trying out your politics, with crazy examples. Or, maybe you see the sense in it? FYI if you are lucky, you will find out who Jesus will bomb.

BigM
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QUOTE: “Friends said Nona’s father nailed her bedroom window shut so she could not sneak out at night and see her boyfriend.

“She couldn’t date at all until she was a certain age”UNQUOTE

Yah….so? What’s wrong with that! Lol.

FishyGov
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FishyGov

I guess nothing at all unless there’s a fire.

iidvbii
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iidvbii

Well he is gonna wish he pulled this crap in California instead of Texas. I can assure you governor Perry has never even thought the the word “stay” in regards to an execution. Hope you enjoy those virgins wackjob…..

Anonymous
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Won’t he be surprised to learn that there has been a translation error and all he’ll get on the other side is 72 Virginians.

iidvbii
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iidvbii

Lol…. That would be worth seeing..

kong1967
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kong1967

What do these idiot Muslims think they are going to accomplish by coming here? Injecting their beliefs on our society over time? Seriously, what’s the objective? They hate our culture so why the eff do they come here? I know they want to achieve domination through migration, but they’ve got another thing coming if they think it’s going to happen here. This isn’t Europe, and we will protect our freedoms with our lives.

Islam is a cult and a fake religion. I pray that one day it will be exterminated, along with all the cockroaches that worship Allah.

Anonymous
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Their goal is a world wide caliphate. Until the entire world is muslim, they will not stop. Not all muslims are cut out to be killers and suicide bombers. These people are far more insidious. They will change our culture a tiny bit at a time until the entire world is muslim. That is what they want.

I agree with you that it is a cult that must be destroyed, eradicated.

kong1967
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kong1967

I trust men like you to protect us on the physical front, but on the ideological front I don’t trust our government whatsoever. Letting that mosque to be built at Ground Zero is a huge mistake. Muslims view it as a symbol of victory, and if that’s not letting them laugh in our faces I don’t know what is. Our military is the best in the world, and the only way it will fail is if our politicians defund it or disable it. If Islam wins here, it will be through government, not against our military.

Anonymous
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Let the feds try to defund the military. I have MANY Marine friends. Former and current. If we need to build militias, so be it. We would prefer to not go that route but we will never roll over. Whatever it takes, it will be done.

Count on it.

kong1967
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kong1967

Good man.

kong1967
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kong1967

I’m glad to see someone from the military here to help argue against the Ron Paul supporters that claim most soldiers are on Ron Paul’s side. I don’t believe it, but it’s hard for me to argue since I am not in the military.

What’s your perspective on what the members of our military feel about the war effort against radical Islam?

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I have a few aquaintances who are muslim. They are completely unable to discuss this stuff. All the military types I know, both my contemporaries and my fathers all agree that we should rain cruise missiles all over the middle east. In fact, most of us believe we should start with saudi arabia.

kong1967
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kong1967

Lol, the Paulbots here aren’t going to like you very much. I do, however.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Ron Paul might be an alien. Like I’ve said before, he knows money but doesn’t know jack about the real world.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Gosh, Mike, I guess you missed it, Clinton did that.(100 million $). I hear he killed alot of sand. Perry, like Bush, still know, foot soldiers win wars.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Time is now. Better buy what you can, when you can. There are many militias, join one. Just another stupid Morman tenet.

Anonymous
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I am a member of an unofficial militia. It is called US Veterans. Most of us are too ornery to retreat and too broke down physically to run. Not to mention, too bullheaded to not stand and fight. Shoot, I’m 41 and still love a good fist fight. I’ve never started one, mind you but love the rare opportunity to finish one.

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I’m sorry for the late response, but I was just catching up on comments posted today that I may have missed. (Very busy day on RS!) But I must say this one really got my attention.

I had 2 uncles that retired from the Air Force many (and I mean many) years ago that stated the same. It wasn’t due to the defunding of our military but the direction of our government and the liberties we were losing. Unfortunately they both passed away several years ago but I often wondered if their sense of honor in defending our nation (no matter who the enemy internal or external) would move to the next generations. Your post gave me hope that my uncles wishes live on!

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Take heart Maxine. We are many. In fact, we are the, formerly, silent majority. I see and hear that changing a little more every day. Platforms like this help. Your uncles’ legacy live on in the brotherhood of American Warriors. Of that, you can be sure.

Anonymous
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Having to live as an Islamist in a free country was just too much for his brain. If we were judged by sharia law he could have forced his will on them all and they would have lived in fear of him and any man on the street.

kong1967
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I got your point, but they probably did live in fear of him…regardless of our laws.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Just another example of demon possession (the demon being called allah)

Anonymous
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I bet that oil would burn cleaner if we radiate it with some nukes.

kong1967
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kong1967

Yeah, let’s shine some light on the subject, lol.

iidvbii
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iidvbii

A man after my own heart brother…

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

Figures. I read the Xfinity daily news feed and I wondered why the second article they published about this didn’t mention any of the names involved. It mentioned the whole “next of kin” notifying thing but that’s never stopped them before. No wonder they didn’t mention the names.

Rshill7
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The Barbarians are at the gate. It’s time to shut it, shoot through it, or push it over on top of these.

Animalistic, demonic, darkness. A satanic religion of death and slavery. I think Allah is another name for Lucifer. He’s been hiding behind it for centuries.

If they are so eager to meet Allah, we should be the vehicle which provides that introduction. Allah/Lucifer can take it from there.

Good grief, how’s a guy supposed to write anything when he’s so angry? I’m having a tough time of it today. I want to cry out of one eye while sighting in the murderer with the other!

OleTom
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It’s time to make a stand BUT we are surrounded by sheep maybe some of our returning heroes still have ba11s

Anonymous
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There are many of us and I guarantee you that this would be over if the muslim in the whitehouse would unleash we dogs of war.

OleTom
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OleTom

But he is one of them ?? We need your help here in this country “While we still have one”

OleTom
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OleTom

We need to clean house

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Gladly, but you MUST do your part. When you hear a friend or coworker or a random stranger admit to voting for Maobama or considering to do so again you must engage them in conversation about it. Don’t name call or belittle but hit them right between the eyes with facts, numbers and details. This battle will be won by educating the stupid masses to the liberal lies not by force.

OleTom
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OleTom

Believe Me I pass the word emails, calls and in person I’m sorry to say this but most of OUR countrymen and women are stupid

Anonymous
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That is because of generations of Americans afraid to talk about religion and politics in mixed company. Not only do I think that we should talk about it. We MUST talk about it.

Rshill7
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If we don’t talk about it, we’ll eventually lose the freedom to talk about it.

Silence is indeed a mass murderer.

Allen Poe
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I think you meant ignorant. Lacking facts.

Is_Sense_Common
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Here’s a great link from Bill Wittle from a few days ago to help you do just that:
http://www.therightscoop.com/bill-whittle-three-years-under-obama/
I took it apart piece by piece and made notes for reference for just such occasions! Thanks for your service MiketheMarine! God bless you!

Allen Poe
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Agreed, but I think that won’t work. You have been trained, use it. You run across some bull head, you tell him eye to eye, loudly. Some people do not see the light, until they see that they are completely alone. And Marines never quit!

Anonymous
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I have calmed as I’ve aged and as life has kicked me around some but I assure you that I am the type of guy who will speak out in public. I do it all the time. Friends and family will hear some pinhead spewing garbage and just cringe because they know that I will not let it stand. I try to do it with a little tact but lets face it, I am a Marine and we aren’t really known for tact.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Old soldiers never die, they just fade away. I paraphrase soldiers, for heros.

Cindy08
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FishyGov
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FishyGov

This is the Politichicks web site.

http://politichicks.tv/

FishyGov
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FishyGov

Cindy09, did you get the name of that book Victoria Jackson was talking about or the name of its authors? I still can’t understand much of what she says.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

It is called Shariah: The Threat To America: An Exercise In Competitive Analysis

FishyGov
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FishyGov

Thank you. I will look it up on amazon.

FishyGov
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FishyGov

$2.99 for the Kindle book. I started reading it and will keep it on my computer as a reference.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

From a Biblical perspective, I have found Shoebat’s God’s War on Terror to be very resourceful in terms of bringing current and future events in light of Bible prophecies. Check it out sometime.

Mike Leavitt
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Mike Leavitt

Amen Brother! We are willfully blind and stupid to the evil that Islam presents. (But according to Ron Paul, like Michelle Bachmann, I hate Muslims.)

This stuff matters

iidvbii
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iidvbii

No offense to the brave men and women of the other services but you green light the air force and this whole thing is over in a few hours. Bright lights and mushroom clouds baby.

Rshill7
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I grew up as an Air Force kid and lived on military bases all over. Dad stayed in for 26 years. I was born at Elmendorf Air Base in Anchorage, AK. smile

iidvbii
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Gunter annex in Montgomery Alabama is where I spent my time.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I was arctic trained in Norway. You must have been one tough kid. Being very hot is tough but being that cold is an unbelievable kind of pain. Heat won’t kill you in minutes. Cold doesn’t take that long.

Rshill7
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It wasn’t so bad. I was just a cub then, wrapped in swaddling clothes.

The slow moving river we live by up here in North Michigan freezes over to the point that snowmobiles use it as a road. I walk on water and ice-fish through it a lot.

I met my wife in Florida 24 years ago and when she got homesick for her native Michigan, I said, “then let’s go silly”!

Varooom! We like it here.

Anonymous
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I also live with a wolf hybrid. Might be the only crate trained wolf in the world. He lives inside with me. He’s a Dallas Cowboy’s fan.

Goldni007
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Goldni007

Now THAT is cool! I bet he’s pretty.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Sorry Mike not alone. Just remember he is a wolf, like a Muslim, he ain’t going to change.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Ju guys! Heat will kill you, just a fast as cold, add some water. Ignorance kills you. You are the best of the best. Semper Fi!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Lucifer won’t stop stoking his fires when these folks get there. It’s funny, I was thinking of that name for the devil when I rose this morning, and have not heard it for a long time.

Allen Poe
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freenca It is not in vogue, like monster. You cannot call a spade a spade. Much like a lot of things, you are brain washed. Time to stop think of offending a group, and start telling the stark truth, while you can.

Anonymous
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After reading the entire article, it appears to me that this guy just snapped (separated from his wife, BK, house in foreclosure, etc.). If this were an honor killing because of the teenage daughter, why kill the entire family and then himself?

OleTom
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MaxineCA I bet the CA is for California Just stick your head back in the sand after you take another sip of Kool Aid mooslims are just misunderstood

Anonymous
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Obviously, you have never read any of my prior posts. I CERTAINLY don’t have my head in the sand, and simply asked a question. I am very informed about the topic, and NO I’m not a Kool Aid drinker.

Anonymous
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I, for one, am happy to discuss this with anyone willing to listen. Kudos for getting involved. I wish there were more like you.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

MaxCA I am behind you, most of time. Don’t let the Ba—- drag you down.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

Hey, Maxine does not drink any Kool Aid…! Quit insulting her (and us)!

iidvbii
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iidvbii

Dont get it twisted Maxine is one of us. Poor lady is stuck out there holding down the fort on the left coast. I bet she wishes she was a kool aid drinker most days dealing with that group….

Anonymous
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The typical American response. I assure you, ma’am that you could never, ever grasp what these animals think. They are not what you would consider normal people. The greatest thing these people can do in their lives is to kill an infidel ( you ) then die in the name of their god (satan).

These are facts, lady. You need to read the book, “Satanic Verses” by Salman Rushdie.

Anonymous
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Mike, I am VERY informed on the topic and understand Sharia, jihadists and how they feel about all infidels.

After reading the entire article, I only asked a simple question – OK?

Anonymous
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This isn’t intended as a personal attack but your questions prove you have no idea what you are talking about. They THINK completely differently than you or me. You cannot attribute our values to them. They are animals. Even their women prefer to live the way they do. I don’t think you or any American woman would allow it for one hot second. This jihad / crusade is not a disagreement between intelligent, considerate peoples. They don’t care what you think or feel. They only want you dead. This is a fact.

John A Conroy
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I agree with Maxine ..If it were a true honor killing he would have only killed the girl not the entire family and himself It was a legitimate question.. Why not answer it without speaking down to an obviously intelligent woman in muslimlike fashion I might add

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Thanks John. After being jumped on so quickly after my question, I had to come to the conclusion that those doing the “jumping” must not have clicked on the link and read the entire article. I had never read or heard of an Islamic family that had previously put up Christmas lights and celebrated Christmas. I didn’t understand why he was in a Santa suit, or why he killed the entire family.

The whole situation seemed to be very odd, and I wasn’t about to take the leap to conclude it was a honor killing simply because they were of the Muslim faith. I try to connect all of the dots before I form an opinion.

I must say, shame on Scoop for not posting the full story, but he at least provided the link.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

A simple answer to a deep question. They are men, just as good as you. They are crazy. Try to rationalize, and you become confused. Just label them crazy, and defend youself.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Max CA Sometimes, the simplist question, requires the most complex answer. Example, what is time? Hang in there.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

Because he was a Muslim.

Joe
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Joe

COWARD

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Hey Joe, be nice. No reason to call me a coward because I asked a simple question.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

He wasn’t calling you a coward, in my opinion. he was responding to your question, “Why kill the entire family?”

He meant, “Because he is a coward.”

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Oh, OK. Then that makes sense, as to the answer to my question. Thanks!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You’re welcome.

FYI, I don’t attack people who are interested and want to engage on these subjects. Liberal trolls, like those that visit Greta on Fox, they are a different story. Them, I attack.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

smile

iidvbii
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iidvbii

Dang Maxine looks like the natives are a little restless today. Perhaps you should hide that CA until everyone calms backdown…. LOL
wink

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Nah, Maxine can hang out and keep her CA. I’ll whip anyone’s butt who crosses a line with her. I’ve decided to adopt her as my own.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Maxine. I think he was calling the murderer a coward. It was a one word answer to your question, it seems to me.

If he was calling you a coward, I would have to bite him smile

Hey Joe, c’mere a minute.

MiketheMarine just doesn’t know you yet and it appears he misunderstood you based on that unfamiliarity. Now somebody get over here and hug me dagnabbit!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Thanks…. and hugs to you!

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Yay!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Correct. Now that I’ve figured Maxine out she is under my umbrella of protection. F with her at your own risk.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Mike, you are not the only one, get in line.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

Hey, lay low! We all know Maxine. The lady just asked a question! Try to be nice next time!

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I’m inclined to ask questions here as well, Maxine. Much of it sounds like an honor killing (the daughter’s actions, her mom and brother helping her). Other parts are confusing (the other relatives killed, why he was wearing a Santa suit, etc.).

Perhaps, it was a combination of the two (all his problems causing him to snap and his basic belief causing the honor style killing).

Just questions, same as you. I hope I don’t get jumped too hard for saying these things.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I think that trying to rationalize why muslim do any of these actions is a fools errand. Not an attack, just my opinion.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Granted, this may very well be an extended honor killing situation. I don’t think we have all the info just yet. Some talk I’ve heard, though, sounds like the left jumping on ‘the right-wing Tea Party nuts’ for shooting Giffords. It was totally wrong then, so I’m just looking for more info. I would not be surprised at all if it was an honor killing. Some parts of it just seems kind of weird.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

When I joined the Corps our main enemy was the Soviet Union. They were rational and similar enough to us that Mutually Assured Destruction with nukes was a valid deterrent.

Islam is not like that. They trully want everyone else on the planet dead and the greatest thing they can do in life is to die killing infidels. It’s why Iran getting a nuke is so dangerous. If they get one working they will use it in less than a month.

You can’t ask what we would consider is a valid question about islam. All they strive for is death, period.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

They don’t want everyone dead, the lazy [email protected]#&%ds need slaves to do their work for them.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Not true. They believe that every single infidel that they kill will be their personal slaves in paradise for eternity. From that perspective, that is far more attractive then having a slave here on earth for their short lives.

kong1967
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kong1967

Yep. No matter what Ron Paul says, this is going to be a very, very long war against radical Islam. Pretending that it’s our fault and backing off won’t change a thing, and it will actually be signing our death warrant. In the future we are going to have to step it up, unfortunately. The effort to dominate the world with Sharia Law is going to continue no matter how fatigued our war effort is.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Well, I’m not disagreeing with you at all. I do not like what they do. I’m certainly not a sympathizer. I look at situations like the Giffords shooting and say ‘well, what really happened here’, as an outside observer.

If we find out that he dressed like Santa to try and mock Christmas, he killed all the people because they were aiding the girl and therefore violating Sharia law, and that he shot himself because he’s a coward, then all that would make sense to me.

Aside from this particular situation, I wouldn’t think that we want to place a cresent moon on each and every one of their shirts and then shoot first and ask questions later. That sounds too much like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews. Not good.

I see a major war with Islam coming and as to that, I’m with you.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I understand your humanity and not wanting to kill them all. I do have one question to try to generate some thought on this point. Why haven’t more muslims spoken out against this war against the world? Fear? Perhaps, but why be associated with a religion that you are so afraid of?

When a cop goes into a home because of a civil disturbance, the cop is trained to not turn his back on the battered wife just because he (the cop) is stopping her from getting a beating. More often than not the wife attacks the cop. Doesn’t make sense, I know.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I’ll be standing right along side of you in that fight. I have a working knowledge, btw, on making nukes. Just give me a call. smile

Anonymous
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Anonymous

My father graduated from the USNA. I will have to deploy you with those engineer eggheads. I am far to simple for stuff like that. Give me a rifle and I can move mountains. But you nuke guys can make the mountain disappear. That may come in handy.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Thank you for your service – past AND future.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I am well suited to it and it is my duty to do what I can. Some of you folks are far smarter than me. I can keep the animals at bay but it will be your jobs to change the world.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Nuker, either way. Semper Fi!

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Me, too. I am not so much a humanitarian, dirty bombs are just fine with me.
smile

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Dirty bombs are better. I hate rebuilding the background.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Marine, you need to reread the Koran. Hopefully you will then understand. It is not short. I fully believe in the last, total war. Only then, will these people be stopped. Worse, you will have to fight, along side me and us. If you are lucky, you will die in bed.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Nuker, you miss the point. This war is 5000 years old, and it is not going to go away. What every American needs to do is just understand these people are not our friends and never will be. Treat them like they deserve, no trust, no negotiation, just tolerate them, if they stay away. If they point a nuke at us, do as RR, just blow the nuke away. Take off your shades, the war began a long time ago.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

No, I don’t think I miss the point. We are at war (and have been for some time) with radical islam. I do not disagree with that. We just need to know what is at the end of our gunsights.

I’m from the midwest and us farm boys don’t take lightly to our womenfolk being mistreated. We won’t allow Shariah Law around here and if they try, you will find them out behind the woodshed….well, no, you won’t find them, come to think of it.

I just wonder if we are ready to double tap someone when we see them walking down main street. They need to provoke me. Radical islam has already provoked me and I’m ready for THAT war.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

They are taught the lies from birth, hence they believe the lies. I think they cannot cope with the inherant freedoms that are a given in our culture and when they run out of coping mechanisms they tend to flame out, erasing everyone in their immediate surroundings as well as themselves.

FishyGov
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FishyGov

I haven’t seen any winged or wingless nuts at the Tucson Tea Party functions. Although, hot dogs and sodas have been sold at most of rallies.

Closest thing to a nut was when Judge Andrew Napolitano was a guest speaker but he seemed to be a normal constitutionalist at the time and he refrained from calling any of us there a “neocon”.

To repeat the incorrect allegation that the TTP or any of those who attend their functions had anything to do with the Giffords shooting only serves to perpetuate the Progressives narative.

Tucson Tea Partiers don’t shoot bullets at even the most hated Liberals/Progressives we cast ballots against them.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I agree. I was using the phrase that the left tried to use. I do not believe there are any ‘Tea Party nuts’ anywhere.

FishyGov
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FishyGov

I know. Just don’t like seeing it come up in print.

As much as I didn’t like how the Republican turned Democrat voted she and the other victims didn’t deserve to be shot.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Ya, when I first heard it and most the LSM was screaming ‘foul’ on the conservatives, my first thought was ‘That don’t sound right at all’. Of course, it helps to believe that the only time the LSM is lying is when they are typing and talking. smile

Anonymous
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Anonymous

How do you know when a liberal or attorney is lying ?

His lips are moving.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Thank the Lord, another sane person.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I tend to agree, that it might have been a combination of all of the factors. After reading the ENTIRE article it just didn’t seem to “fit” a straight honor killing. Since the father killed himself along with all other members of the family, I guess we will never really know.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I can understand how Maxine would find this extended “honor” killing, somewhat different from what we have seen before, but it seems this guy saw his entire family becoming too westernized, and that is akin to being an infidel. It can very difficult to fully comprehend the mindset of these deluded-religio-psycho-monsters, but Mike is right, they just do not think like we do…death, killing and destruction are at the very foundation of their religion. We think of killing as a last resort to protect our families, ourselves, our country…they see it as a way to achieve the greatest honor possible….martydom. And NOT killing someone that the Koran deems offensive is an offense in itself. In this mans eyes this killing actually saved himself and his family from eternal death. Lo! the hypocrites (will be) in the lowest deep of the Fire, and thou wilt find no helper for them; (145)… Read more »

Is_Sense_Common
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Is_Sense_Common

MaxineCA, these [muslim] people have no Solid Rock on which to stand. Without Him, we’re a mess! Look at our youth today who don’t know Him.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Maybe it’s something in the air today. I too got called names this morning for being conservative, at coffee no less. The lefties are starting to go into campaign mode, I think. 2012 IS going to be a real corker of a year. MaxineCA is good people ! IMHO.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

Trying to understand the insane people, will just drive you insane. Let it go.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So sad……PC as run amok.

Brian Johnson
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Brian Johnson

I believe there is evidence that shows Mohammed was mentally ill. In religious terms I think you might say possessed. That Qur’an and Hadith are additional evidence that has endured over the centuries. Over the top comment? Nope.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Absolutely he was mentally ill. He married a 6 year-old girl. He stole all his ideas from the surrounding Jews and Christians and made up his own religion, based on an ancient pagan moon-god called Allah. Slavery, rape, theft, murder, convert or die. That my friends, is the origins of Islam.

MJS
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MJS

At least he wasn’t Mormon

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

MJS Yeah, those 100 commandments, added to the 10 are kinda pesky. You must be from bloody Kansas, where comment such as that slander, are common. Some Morman must have told you to quit having sex with your daughter.

MJS
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MJS

No, some Mormon told me to stop having sex with your mother.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

It is his religion, He believes all the way to the pearly gates. Many people are that way. A little dope, a little rape, who cares? Certainly not the USA. Don’t you personally know of one, never punished? vote, or vote present. Or, you could begin the long assent back to decency, by voting for Perry.

FishyGov
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FishyGov

This is very sad and yet another reason for this peaceful “religion” should be eraticated from the planet.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Just like Naziism, Brother. It has got to go. There will be no peace until then.

FishyGov
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FishyGov

Human nature being what it is, there will never be peace on Mars.

MJS
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MJS

the Savages have to go

Justin Alexander
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Justin Alexander

Heck for that matter, you might as well throw in all religions (Christianity included) in that list of eradication.

Oh, and what evidence do we have that religion is the origin of this lunatic’s behavior?

Laura Hague Mock
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Laura Hague Mock

There is no evidence that this man killed his family because of his religious beliefs. If he did he joins a long line of mentally ill people who have done the same. There are fanatics in every group including Christians. I think it is very sad that because of the actions of a few that FishyGov and others would advocate the elimination of this religion. Using this reasoning,Christianity should be eliminated because of the few that have murdered abortion doctors and nurses. OR the so-called Christians who are calling for the assassination of President Obama. The majority of Muslims are rational,law abiding average people, just as the majority of Christians are

Religion has historically been the cause of many wars and murders. Perhaps there will be no peace until all religions are eliminated

FishyGov
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FishyGov

I have tried to answer your reply but since there is so much to say on this subject I can only advice you to look into the following subject:

Islamic conquests — starting with Mohammed and continuing through the Ottoman Empire
Sharia Law in Europe and the U.S.
Islams bloody borders
Honor killings in the U.S.
Islams plan to establish a world caliphate governed by Sharia Law

This is a “red pill”, “blue pill” time in our history. No one would blame you if you choose to ignore what’s happening today or the ugliness that is still ahead of us all.

Professor Why
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Professor Why

This barbarian needs to learn that (as long as he doesn’t get tried in a place like Dearbornistan, MI) sharia law doesn’t apply here, and that TX has an expressway installed for the death penalty…

Professor Why
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Professor Why

Didn’t see that he actually shot himself afterward… So at least TX was saved the cost of his execution… Unfortunately, his cowardice meant that he wouldn’t face any earthly justice. Fortunately, he’ll receive a fitting punishment in the afterlife.

kong1967
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kong1967

He might be disappointed when he finds out he doesn’t get his 72 virgins (or however many it is).

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

The 72 Virginians Ben Laden’s Paradise After getting nailed by a Daisy Cutter, Osama made his way to the pearly gates. There, he is greeted by George Washington. “How dare you attack the nation I helped conceive!” yells Mr. Washington, slapping Osama in the face. Patrick Henry comes up from behind. “You wanted to end the Americans’ liberty, so they gave you death!” Henry punches Osama on the nose. James Madison comes up next, and says “This is why I allowed the Federal government to provide for the common defense!” He drops a large weight on Osama’s knee. Osama is subject to similar beatings from John Randolph of Roanoke, James Monroe, and 65 other people who have the same love for liberty and America. As he writhes on the ground, Thomas Jefferson picks him up to hurl him back toward the gate where he is to be judged. As Osama… Read more »

kong1967
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kong1967

Hilarious. I’ve heard it before, but it’s nice to hear it again.

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

You missed me, if I get a chance, I will show him what the word Karate means.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I’d love to introduce you to him. Unfortunately (fortunately) he has been put on the Last train to Clarksville. smile

Allen Poe
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Allen Poe

A change of venue to LA or SF, would probably free him from all charges.

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