The untold story of gun confiscation after Hurricane Katrina

A great video by the NRA on how guns were confiscated by police officers in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina:



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Neil Ringlee
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Neil Ringlee

Ray Nagin, indicted by the feds. Any surprises there?

LeAnne Davis Tillar
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LeAnne Davis Tillar

In knowing the history of the past century or so, we who are educated to this history know the dangers of giving up weapons. But this Katrina story shows just how incrementally our guns will be confiscated. A catastrophe here, a hurricane or tornado there, a false-flag shooting elsewhere, and in come the jackboots to take weapons from law-abiding people to “protect” them from the thieves they claim are coming to steal them!! Amazing. Wouldn’t want to leave the guns in the hands of the law-abiding person who might shoot a robber breaking into his house! And no receipt!? Gee, did this guy ever get his guns back? Did he have to hire a lawyer? Had the guns been destroyed? Or, perhaps, sent across the border to Mexico…?? We know our government has a propensity to do just that. Our problems with progressive liberals (p.l.) is that they sincerely believe… Read more »

hicusdicus
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hicusdicus

America will remain free only as long as their is an American citizen behind every blade of grass armed with his rifle.

unionville
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unionville

I had not heard of this. I am infuriated that law abiding citizens were searched without just cause let alone had their guns confiscated. I hope there was legal action taken against the police.

lostdutchman
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lostdutchman

Nope….I don’t believe any of them were shot where they stood.

Jimbo
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Jimbo

This country is headed down a very dangerous and bloody path.

physicsnut
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physicsnut

Further reading of blogs and comments reveals that they are saying ‘we have to strike while the iron is hot’ or else the window of opportunity disappears. But one guy, while having misgivings about all that , nevertheless wants the democrats to succeed – ie, Feinstein, Schumer, Cuomo. Too bad Feinstein is doing EXACTLY what Hitler did in 1938. And another blogger does not want to hear it. But that is what she is pushing. Feinstein is blissfully unaware that the rule of thumb in America is that if anyone threatens the Bill of Rights – get more ammo. That’s what Americans do. The libs can not comprehend this, because they have no clue about why the Bill of Rights exists. To them, it has no historical context – that might require reading something. And if they did read history, they are told it is just dead white male racist… Read more »

physicsnut
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physicsnut

I was looking at some academic blogs. I don’t want to call out this particular guy, but wow do they imbibe the commie religion, and ignore common sense and basic facts. This dude was blabbering about lobbying by the NRA and thats the only reason guns haven’t been banned. Another was saying they have money because of some weird aspect of washington beltway stuff. Right, uh huh – it has nothing to do with 4 million members, most clamoring for a defense of the Second Amendment. It is like those caught up in psychobabble. They construct their own little liberal bubble, with their own language. This morning NPR had all sorts of anti-bully stuff, like they all get their talking points in line, and saturating the air waves. Everybody has to twist themselves into a pretzel to accomodate their priorities. I have a simple question for the gun ban types:… Read more »

clockwindingdown
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clockwindingdown

Most of them do not live in the real world. They do live in a bubble and they are not held accountable for their decisions an actions. They have been taught that their feelings are valid and matter more then truth and facts. The gun debate is a distraction. These people do not sleep. They do not take holidays off. They are constantly working undercover to push their agenda. Look at the recent union rules outcome for an example. We need to fight the fight, but it doesn’t take everyone 100% of the time. They know this so they send out their little “assault” teams while they keep advancing their troops. We need to become the “Continental Army” and start fighting our own skirmishes on our terms where and when we choose. If one looks back over the past few years they will see every battle has been dictated by… Read more »

Godisright
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Godisright

What about a Million Man open carry in D.C.
We could have David Gregory MC the thing…just a thought.

tvlgds
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tvlgds

I saw this video in 2005 or 2006, shortly after Katrina. I was appalled. We didnt get back in until the first weekend in Oct. 2005, but I can assure you that this wasn’t happening in suburban Jefferson Parish. People were taking turns sitting on their roofs all night armed with shotguns, rifles, and handguns. The signs said “You loot, we shoot” and this was authorized by then Sheriff Harry Lee. (may he RIP) Dad and I wore our guns on our hips while we worked on the house in our deserted neighborhood.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL WHO READ THIS!!!!

I’ll see you all next year Please God! It’s been a pleasure knowing you and I hope we get to continue our friendship! God Bless you! See you next year (aka tomorrow smile )))

Debby
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Debby

The pleasure’s all ours. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!! Stay thirsty my friend smile

clockwindingdown
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clockwindingdown

See you on the other-side… Time to get out the fireworks!

Gary
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Gary

There would be some dead mofos if they come to my door, I don’t give a $hit who they the worthless assholes are! This is un.f..king.. believable!

Biggbear52
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Biggbear52

The first time I was personally witness to gum confiscation was in 1978 right here in America. A small town sheriff had experienced a murder committed by a known illegal immigrant given amnesty by Jimmy Cater as about 13.5 million were. This murder caused this sheriff to seize, NOT CONFISCATE over 400 weapons own by responsible, upright citizens. We learned later that he had been issued orders from the States Attorney. A recently elected admitted socialist and democrat whom later was appointed U.S attorney general by Carter. His name is James Civiletti. This is when I decided that the only way anyone would ever get my personal weapons of feeding and protecting, was from my cold rigored corpse! Here it is 34 years later and we have a Muslim social communist in the oval office. Placed there by the likes of George Soros, Peter Lewis of Progressive insurance, Warren Buffet… Read more »

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Great post!

white531
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white531

Beautifully said, Biggbear!

clockwindingdown
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clockwindingdown

BB, great post. Sorry to hear your kids, like so many people, are willing to be enslaved. Most of those willing to do so thinking things will go on the same as they are. They fail to see things are being changed, if staying the same was the goal there would be no need for them to capitulate. Yes, everyone willing to be free needs to be prepared. When asked if they have something by any official they need to say “NO”. They also need to be prepared to stand their ground. If they see officials directing crowds turn and move away, do not go where directed. People need to think for themselves and learn that when someone else takes control of your well being your well being is what they decide it to be. Where to sleep, when to sleep, what to eat, when to eat, what to wear,… Read more »

Biggbear52
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Biggbear52

Thank you and they were programed to believe in lying down as the screwalls have so brained washed so many since 01/03/79. That is the date in which the Department of education went into business. Thanks wholy to James Early Carter Jr. So since that time the schools have been busy place Manchurian type idea’s in the heads of our kids. For the last three years of they’re schooling my wife and I home schooled our kids. We both truly believe they are way better off for it.

clockwindingdown
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clockwindingdown

I agree the department of capitulation has done its damage. What is worse is the teachers themselves, not all of course, they don’t question whats and whys of their doings. It only takes the indoctrination of the young and a few generations of voters and the communist have wage an incredible battle.

If we can teach people to think, not feel and they will loose. If we can teach people to question, its simple ask why, then ask why again and repeat asking why until the logic fails…

I’m sure home schooling helped, and strengthened the family too even though it may not always seem that way. People have to go their own way and find out for themselves…

Keep up the good deeds my brother.

demographicallychallenged
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demographicallychallenged

The second most important thing the Founding Fathers thought we needed as a free people, right after freedom of religion, speech, press, and the right to address our government, and peacefully assemble.

Locks
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Locks

What is sad is if we had a patriotic news media stories like this would get attention and investigations demanded, but no we have the U.S. versions of Tass and Pravda.

I hope in 2013 more and more people stop listening to the MSM.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

This makes my blood boil.

This is what a dictatorship looks like.

colliemum
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colliemum

Exactly!

colliemum
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colliemum

Two points struck when I watched this video from this side of the Big Pond:

• all the people who had their legally held guns confiscated were white;

• all were honest, law abiding citizens – because not one of them lied about their guns.

Is any more proof needed that this is about disarming people according to skin colour? or do we really believe these policemen would have dared to break into the homes of differentially pigmented people like this? Wouldn’t they have accepted the lies, and retreated without illegally held guns because of … waaaaacism?

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

During the LA riots, the police did nothing to protect the citizenry from roaming gangs of black er… gangs from destroying property, breaking into homes and shops and stealing everything that wasn’t nailed to the floor. The Koreans business owners in Koreatown banded together, armed themselves with (gasp)Assault rifles, took up positions on the roofs of their businesses and drove off any gang like activity that threatened their lives, business and livelihoods. The police are a “response” team to a crime, not a crime prevention team. That’s why the 2nd is so important. When seconds count, the police are only minutes or sometimes hours away.

colliemum
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colliemum

Yes to all of that, Wolfie – but for me, from outside the USA, the most important point of the 2nd Amendment is that the Founding Fathers meant this to enable the people to stand up against a tyrannical government. They were so prescient, and I hope you all post that video far and wide: this is what a tyrannical government does, this is what it looks like!
If people (leftie do-gooders) don’t want to arm themselves – fine, they’re not forced to do so. Let them live with the consequences, as during those riots. Their choice.
But don’t come crying, don’t come free-loading to those people you’ve been vilifying for owning guns when the going gets tough!

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Bingo! You might want to look at a post above looking for others to step in and do the protecting…..

Orangeone
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Orangeone

And when law enforcement has been given the #StandDown order from Barky Boy. Remember #Benghazi, exercise your 2nd Amendment right, buy lots of ammo and remember that cash leaves the least of paper trails.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Sound advice!

WhiteFalcon1
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WhiteFalcon1

LOL…its not for the reason you think, though your reason is a big part of it! The gang bangers, drug dealers and criminals are now MORE heavily armed in some cases than the police themselves, so…if given the choice, who guns are YOU going to go after, those who would probably hand them over for a receipt, or those who are going to give them to you ONLY when you killed them enough times to TAKE them? Our cities are armed battle grounds now, and no cop I know is going to volunteer to go into them and get themselves blown up for something they already know, isn’t going to happen…ever! The bad guys aren’t give theirs up, for any reason, the good guys shouldn’t be made defenseless to the will of these same bad guys! Obama is a dumb-ass AND a COWARD, he knows the above, yet won’t say… Read more »

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Barky Boy wants to use Chicago’s gun control as the model. From his words, he wants over 500 AAs killed each year in each city. Now that sounds like a plan, let them kill each other off. I’ll remain armed and be on the roof defending my property if necessary. There is a lot to be learned from the Korean business owners during the riots.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

You are correct mum! And notice they didn’t ask the nonwhite woman about having a gun….

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

I missed that. You’re very observant! smile

Jay
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Jay

Anybody else think Waco, Ruby Ridge and Katrina are dress rehearsals for the main event?

Suzyqpie
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Suzyqpie

Mental Submission Probability Gauge. How far can we push these people? I am going to repeat “fair share” & “shared sacrifice” until they believe it is altruistic. Then I am going to come for the 401k accounts. A minority of American have these accts and these accts represent a treasure trove that is needed to insure fairness.

WhiteFalcon1
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WhiteFalcon1

Ironic that obama and HIS comrades have yet to mention a word about when and how they plan to re-distribute THEIR wealth, huh?
You think his little Island retreat is a coincidence? Think again….Hawaii sits quite a ways off shore and can hold a whole lot of people while shipping to the mainland the “undesirables”, which gives them an untouchable almost impenetrable haven/ fortress without a wall ever being built to block the pretty views….complete with a fully stocked naval War base….most countries couldn’t approach the Islands, none of us can either!

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Hawaii is penetrable, remember Pearl Harbor? He can run but he cannot hide, his ugly mug, hers and they brats as well are much to easy to recognize

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Islands make a terrible refuge from war. One blockade brings the whole thing to it’s knees, especially with a population that large.

Nearly everything in Hawaii is imported. Amazingly, even some of the pineapple juice and sugar. A simple, 8-foot 2×4 is shockingly expensive by mainland standards.

Edward McMahon
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Edward McMahon

if guns are not for personnal protection. why do ” bodyguards” carry them? I DARE any anti gun person to forego any armed protection. no gun, no bodyguards with guns…no local LEA with any weapons around. ..lets just see if they even have teh balls to leave their own houses then….
i Highly doubt it.
this show intense arrogance and overflowing ego to think “they ” deserve that kind of protection and no one else does.. they are not better then or more importatnt then any one else on this planet.
panzy-assed-hypocrites

Suzyqpie
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Suzyqpie

How very quaint, Mr Edward. The fault with your argument is reality and logical. They were both suspended on Jan 20, 2009.

c4pfan
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c4pfan

A good reminder scoop.

Frank8881
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Frank8881

If it is unconstitutional, why don’t you just take it to court and save all this angst.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

It’s already been taken to court, many times. The Second Amendment is the law of the land. Get informed.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

When you think about it, laws are just words and they mean nothing unless there is a will and a willingness behind them.

What is it, I wonder which will send Americans over the edge?

Suzyqpie
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Suzyqpie

Sans a constabulary and a jailer, laws are, correct, just words. Selective enforcement of the law is abdication of the Rule of Law, which is where we are today. Welcome aboard. CFR is 134,000+ pages filling 19 ft of shelf space in WDC. The law provides a tripwire for the government apparatchiks if they chose to indict someone for something or extract the desired behavior by just threatening to do so. The financial meltdown of 2008, which the government blames on Wall Street, resulted on zero indictments from the DoJ AG, the highest law enforcement office in the land, thus proving my point.

WhiteFalcon1
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WhiteFalcon1

LOL, I tried to explain that last to a lib-tard-cong yesterday, NO-ONE on Wall St was ever charged, not even investigated because they ARE obams’s primary supporters and if any one of them goes down, so does the whole house of cards! Just like no-one will ever be charged with smuggling machine guns to Mexican drug gangs, same thing, they support barry, he’s not cutting off that money train, no way, no how! Now apply that to ALL of the fiasco’s they’ve created and you get a much larger picture, then add to it the HUGE Hawaiian Islands as their final fall back/ redoubt position, where “millionaires and billionaires” have built obama a really nice house…how do you approach a government that is ON an Island, surrounded by thousands of miles of water AND has its very own Navy?

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

You nuke ’em.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Score one for k-bob!

Frank8881
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Frank8881

I know that but if they attempt any changes take those.

PatrickHenrysBody
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PatrickHenrysBody

I watched this years ago. It never got press coverage and kept on wondering why it didn’t, since it was during G.W. Bush’s presidency and the press abhorred Bush. Oh wait, when it comes to something the authoritarians agree with, Democrap or Republicant, they will sit idly by and remain silent. The bigger question is, why did people allow it to happen? Perhaps it was in the name of “public safety” and “protecting” the Americans in the area? Yeah, right. So they roughed up an old lady for exercising her Second Amendment rights, who cares, eh? We have seen what our benevolent government is capable of. This is just a foretaste of what may happen soon.

1vote
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1vote

They want us disarmed individually The same libs want our military to disarm. Maybe they just don’t see anything worth fighting for – period. I happen to disagree.
I am happy clinger!!

Orangeone
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Orangeone

The gov’t is trying to make it easier for the Moooslim Brotherhood to take over our country. Hundreds of millions of guns, lots of bloodshed before that happens.

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

Make no mistake about it, they know all about things worth fighting for. They just don’t want those of us opposed to their Communist ideals, armed and doing the fighting. wink

sDee
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sDee

It is starting.

I’ve been in law enforcement 31 years and I’ve never seen anything like it

According to a Lieutenant in a North Carolina police department, law enforcement is preparing to take away our 2nd Amendment. Law enforcement in North Carolina have already begun training with military drones.

Governor Perdue of North Carolina has been selected by Barack Obama to help enforce the martial law scenario. The Lieutenant expects gun confiscation to begin within the next 2 to 3 months. He also confirms that a contrived economic collapse is about to occur leading to martial law in America, as early as the beginning of 2013.”

http://youtu.be/aPPSeMyXlGw

sDee
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sDee

Worth comparing this Lieutenant’s first hand account with the DHS insider interview at CFP.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

He named the troops he expect to conform “Droid heads.”

sDee
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sDee

I thought he said “roid” head as in steroids?

08hayabusa
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08hayabusa

The really sad part of this video is that they were relieved of their weapons when they needed them most. In the middle of chaos. I wonder how many were killed or were rob of valuable resources as a result of this UN-Constitutional gun grab?

Pickle Plants
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Pickle Plants

That’s what I was thinking. The time the guns were being confiscated was the time they were needed most.

I also have a very hard time wrapping my head around resisting the police (some are my friends) if they demand my gun (which I don’t have btw – I live in NJ).

I would normally feel that this type of legislation would never pass, but after Novembers “O-2 The Sequel” victory, I am not as confidant. In fact I am scared.

BucketheadBaptist
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BucketheadBaptist

Your friendly neighborhood Pastor will help confiscate your weapons from you:

http://youtu.be/vDle-SWsyio

American Duckie
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American Duckie

My Pastor won’t.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Good to hear.

MJS
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MJS

That’s okay, we legal citizens will just obtain them ILLEGALLY the way criminals do. If a government acts to break the moral and social contract, we citizens have a right and obligation to overthrown them using any means at our disposal.

Eliminate the Second Amendment? The law already does that for criminals, yet they already and still have firearms.

Joe
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Joe

I stopped in Gander Mountain Sporting goods in Mooresville NC

There were NO RIFLES left in the store

I am afraid what is going to happen soon

Will the US become SYRIA #2?

There will be hell to pay!

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Drones and chemical drops is the biggest fear

Joe
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Joe

Alex Jones might be on to something

He is a LITTLE EXTREME

But so is ZERO

http://www.infowars.com/

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Yeah fingerprints and photo ID for guns but not to vote.  I hope she and her husband are at the front of the line for registration, confiscation, fingerprinting, etc.  Perhaps she’ll choose the shade of yellow for the star this time.

BucketheadBaptist
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BucketheadBaptist

I haven’t watched this yet… But since I haven’t seen anyone comment on the role that area Pastors had in the Katrina gun grab… I guess I’ll have to watch it and dig the other one up.

AddisonDewitt
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AddisonDewitt

We all knew this coming…the MFer hasn’t even been sworn in for round 2 and already he’s talking gun grabbing

librtifirst
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librtifirst

He was put back in office to do just that.

Richard Kendrick
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Richard Kendrick

I will repost as needed. You can copy and post as you see fit. We must fight leftist attempts to destroy the Second Amendment. We cannot wait until confiscation legislation is a reality. We must move to secure our liberties before the left uses tragedy to strangle us into slavery or worse. I call on conservatives to plant the seeds of success. We all have friends and family that serve in our armed forces or within law enforcement agencies. These are the individuals that leftists will call upon to disarm the nation. Plant seeds of success through conversation. Pick up the phone, send an email, meet face-to-face and have a frank conversation with every member of these units that you know. Be straightforward and ask this question: If you were ordered to take the firearms from our citizens what would you do? Engage these folks before hand. Plant the seeds… Read more »

Frank8881
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Frank8881

Are you out of your mind

StandProudNow
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StandProudNow

Talking to yourself again?

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Looks like Franky is lonely again tonight…..

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Yeah, I seem to be the only one who talks to him and his mommy told me to stop. It upsets his supper.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

ROFL

American Duckie
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American Duckie
librtifirst
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librtifirst

Many cops and service members call in to the Alex Jones show. Many of these same people are spreading the word throughout the police force, and the military. The problem comes in where we have had foreign troops training to do this on US soil. Canada has a pact with us to assist in case of an emergency, and they are not the only ones who will show up. Our troops will continue to do it overseas, and others will end up doing it here.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

I’m not following your post…can you clarify a bit for me please?

librtifirst
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librtifirst

I was just responding to Richard concerning spreading the word, or information, about gun confiscations to the police an military members. I have actually asked my sheriff about it.

The rest was simply about who would be doing the confiscating. They won’t be able to get enough cops to do this, and many will simply not want to take the risk for something that is not right to begin with.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d

Our troops have been doing house to house raids in the middle east for a long time now. My brother in law explained exactly what they did in Iraq. I believe that our troops will largely kept overseas, while other countries “help” our government in a national emergency, or martial law.

They will likely continue to attempt gun control until we have massive civil unrest, then they will take the guns by force.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

So you think Canada will side with Barky Boy over Americans and use their military to seize our guns and kill us?

librtifirst
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librtifirst

I believe that this is how it is set up. The allied nations (governments) will assist each other in “keeping the peace”, when the financial systems collapse. I make the assumption that this will be what causes the need. The National Guard is set up the same way. In case of a national emergency, they would be sent outside of their home areas to follow orders against other states. They know that guard and military members won’t do certain things at home. Much of our national guard gets deployed overseas, so they may not even be consequential to this scenario. The militias were nationalized for this reason. They are at the beck and call of the CIC, ultimately. We have no local protection force against foreign or domestic enemies any longer. The public being armed was obviously not the only thing that the founders had in mind. Militias were to… Read more »

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

My guess id that they will start using gun buy back programs, programs in public schools to urge children to “work” on their parents like the last generation of school “worked” on parents about smoking then later abut global warming.

It’s a subtle but effective technique.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

I think that they know what will happen if they go too quickly with it. They know about the frog boil situation. I also think that they know that they will never get them all, like Britain and others. Too many people won’t give them up, and it is politically almost impossible to do. They will get blow back from certain states, also. I think that a national emergency of epic proportions is their ace in the hole. I believe that the mass shootings of late were staged, and therefor wonder how far they will go with that technique. I fear that we will have a large scale nuke attack where they detonate them above ground. They are shutting this country down, so I don’t see much of a limiting factor to this kind of tactic. The political elites would all know when and where, and would be safe. I… Read more »

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

I don’t think it’s insane when you wake up one day and figure out you’ve slipped into a minority. Then you wake up the next day and figure out that you’re part of a targeted minority.

Being forewarned is not the worst thing that can happen to a free man. You are not worried about what you need to do. You’re just worried that you are the only one that’s awake.

Far as I’m concerned, that puts you at the head of the pack if the SHTF or as a quiet, confident and pleasant neighbor and patriot if it doesn’t.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Excellent words, Words.

demographicallychallenged
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demographicallychallenged

Thats where my name comes from. I may not be able to pick off a gnat of a flea’s a$$ like you claim, but I can still group three rounds in a center mass at 100 meters with open sights! I don’t think that’s to bad for a 67 year old, white, married(with original wife), heterosexual, male with six grandchildren?–left the other stuff off–

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Good for you! smile

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Frankly I like your demog’s, demog.

(I like open sights too.)

Suzyqpie
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Suzyqpie

The startling truth, it no longer sounds insane. Equally as startling, it sounds totally plausible.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

I don’t think you are insane at all. I do have to hope that there are enough people in this country prepared and willing to take out the other team if it comes to that.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

And then they will use the children to “out” their parents on gun ownership. And it shall be easy to accomplish.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Just like the Nazi’s got the children to spy on their parents and report if they were saying “bad things” about “The Party”, etc.

There was a story I read a long time ago and I can barely remember it. But it was about a boy who was forced into the Hitler Youth (remember, joining wasn’t optional after 16) and he overheard his family badmouthing Hitler and reported them. The SS shot the family, issued a warning to the town, and put up a statue to the boy as an example of the idealism. The people tore the statue down, and I (think) killed the boy for betraying his family.

I wish I could remember the source, it’s about 30 years since I read it.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

I remember that as well Wolfie.  Let me do some research and see if I can find it.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Good luck. I just hope I remembered it at least partly correctly and didn’t make a hash of the story.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

In VietNam and probably in WWII, house to house fighting, digging out the enemy one by one on his own turf, was the worst and most dangerous. But I watched the films about the Marines in Fallujah, incredible stuff, and note that their entry and take down strategies are incredibly efficient. Four men enter and cover all areas in each room, then move, as a team to the next. Seems like the military goes far out of its way to engage in these types of actions since the rules of engagement are so quickly “engaged” when you are bashing down people’s houses. Pretty tough to defend against this organized aggression when its happening in you face and, while this kind of expertise in US Marines gives me nothing but pride, this kind of knowledge and experience and practice would give a domestic power group a real advantage in a civil… Read more »

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Interesting. If it comes to that in the US on a broad scale, I hope to avoid it.

Lives4Freedom
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Lives4Freedom

I have an acquaintance who is living proof of your last point. He did a tour in the ME, and took an AK round square in the chest from a hundred meters or so, which knocked him to the ground. When he got up, the bogie ran off. Can you imagine that feeling, from the bad guy’s perspective? No wonder they are skipping the body-shot.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

foreign troops and the TSSA

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

That whole thing about the fed’s buying up all that .357 cal ammo is what finally put me over the edge. 9 mm and .38 is typical for police. The .45 cal, maybe, because .45 ‘ll stop a big sucker in his tracks. The military has no use for the .357. It’s so hot it’ll pass right through an attacker and he’ll still have ten secondstoo shoot back before he knows he’s dead.

But .357 does penetrate car doors and windows and walls of typical American homes very easily, especially if occupants have refused refuse to open the doors when requested. The .357 can be fired from a relatively cheap and widely used handgun frame and easily carried, concealed and activated by any of the myriad of body types and persuasions who make up the TSA, NALC and other federal employees.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

I had a .357 for years before I knew what the balistics were like. I compared it with the .45ACP, .40, .38sp, 44sp, etc. All of these calibers are about the same in energy. The .357 is about 1/3 more energy, and peaks at the bottom of the scale of the .44 mag. The .44 mag has insane power. The .357 is basically in a class of its own conserning the popular calibers. I take it hunting, as it could be effective at close range in taking down an animal. I like the accuracy of the high powered revolver. .45acp for in the home. I hadn’t heard about a .357 buy by the feds. That is just strange. I knew they bought up a ton of .40 cal. bullets. Taurus has a .357 that I like in a 7 round model that I like. I believe there are eight round… Read more »

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

You’re obviously quite knowledgeable about guns and ammo. Do you have a blog dedicated to that knowledge? If not, I wish you did… I’d read it. I’d learn something new with every post. Have a great New Year my friend!

librtifirst
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librtifirst

I just got into reloading in the last year or two. It is a fun hobby. Didn’t know a thing about it before that. Bought a new 30-06 last week, picked up some brass and bullets, loaded them Saturday, and went shooting Sunday. I like being ablt to do that, and you pick up a lot of information along the way. Reloading gets me into lots of conversations about guns and ammo. I actually haven’t spent much time on gun blogs. I like coming here to much.

Have a good time tonight. Will probably be up late on the computer. The fireworks wake me up if I go to bed early anyway.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

If you ever do start a blog, please let me know… I’d be the first subscriber! And I know many friends (many here) who would too. smile

librtifirst
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librtifirst

It does sound like fun. Don’t know how, but might look into it.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

blogspot.com is your friend. I have a blog there at: http://whitewolf1963.blogspot.com/ Which I’ve just decided to start posting to again after a 6 month er… pause.. I know… self promoting… But there are some interesting articles I’ve gathered there… Anyway, the reason I mention is you could have a blog like that, that you can add to any time you please and then post your new articles to Facebook and twitter friends… etc… Anyway… Whatever you decide… Good luck! smile

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Excellent. Thanks Wolfie. I’ll check it out after work tonight.

aposematic
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aposematic

Why is it all I ever hear from Democrats are calls for more taxes, more regulations, and more gun control. Don’t worry, the Democrats will pay your bills, tell you where and how to live, and protect you. Scary stuff, no, I mean really scary. People supporting Democrats are fools voting for their own demise. Unfortunately, they are taking US down with them.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Who can brag up on the republicans?

Islam_Sucks
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Islam_Sucks

A constitution only exists in the heart of people willing to shoot back.

AmericanDream12
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AmericanDream12

A constitution only exists in the heart of people willing to (shoot back) fight for it.

Nobody is fighting to save Our Constitution. NOBODY!!! And Our Constitution and Bill of Rights and all the miraculous country that our Founding Fathers created is disappearing in front of our eyes and NOBODY is doing NOTHING to stop it and save Our Constitution and our dear America!!!

And now we don’t even have a SCOTUS anymore to fight for it.

So so so very sad.

StandProudNow
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StandProudNow

I’m SO hoping that Sarah Palin will get into the game. She has ALWAYS fought for the constitution, and to clean up corruption, fraud, and crony capitalism.

She the ONLY one I trust to help this country.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

I hope you trust Trey Gowdy, Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, Michele Bachmann and a few others. I know it’s less than 10% which is very sad.

Suzyqpie
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Suzyqpie

I would add Allen West to your list.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Thank you! I love Allen West but know he will not be in office with Barky Boy does his gun grab. What what I am grateful for is that he will be on our side, our team and and already has the skill, training and dedication to lead the offense against the gov’t.

AmericanDream12
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AmericanDream12

I agree 100% with you for Sarah. But I am losing hope that she still has the will – or the guts..sorry..to dive into that mess. That’s the thing – we had George Washington who did not want to leave his home but did it with a servant heart and God knows during harsh times also. He had the courage to cross this river and fight against all odds. So what’s her excuse??? Because the Gop does not want her is enough to stop her? Because she thinks she will lose so she does not even try??? She would have crushed obama if she had decided to run in September. She had a HUGE momentum then. She had her army ready. Money would have poured in. And the gop would have not been able to stop her. No way. But she choose the easy way out. I am part of… Read more »

Orangeone
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Orangeone

10,000 likes for your post! Those unwilling to shoot back are not entitled to what our founding fathers secured for us.

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

Like I’ve said several times before. We have been (liberally) programmed to be a nation of cowards. We have been told time and time again to cower in fear until somebody ‘qualified’ arrives to ‘defend’ us. Never mind the fact that when you need ‘protection’ RIGHT NOW, you (and those threatening you) know it’s usually only minutes away.
Well, I’m ‘qualified’ to defend myself and not talking about carry permits and gun registrations. wink wink

magi52
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magi52

You and millions of other Americans feel the same.

i have been shocked but pleasantly surprised to see guns sold out and on back order. Same with ammo.

ALL the gun shows in my area have been packed, almost shoulder to shoulder.
So have gun stores and sporting goods ALL with record sales.

People are arming themselves to protect against a invasion or a tyranny from our govt.

Obama and the Progressive Marxist Dems have underestimated the American Spirit.

It is so hypocritical of them and their wealthy supporters while Obama, Pelosi, Reid et al have Taxpayer paid assault weapon bearing SS and the others private paid armed guns bearing assault weapons they all want to deny us our right to do the same to protect our property and love ones.

They are ALL Lying deceitful despicable pandering parasitical hypocrites.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

“They are ALL Lying deceitful despicable pandering parasitical hypocrites.”

You can say that again. Here, I’ll save you the trouble:

“They are ALL Lying deceitful despicable pandering parasitical hypocrites.”

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Barky Boy is distracting us with Obama and is going to unleash the drones, law enforcement and military to grab guns and enslave law-abiding Americans. Those that are unarmed better arm up and defend themselves and their families.

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

They may get the shotgun, they may get the AR-7, they may even get the .44 Mag but they are going to have to take the house apart brick by brick to find the 4th one.
wink wink

Orangeone
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Orangeone

And I hope there is a 5th, 6th, 7th and more!

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

Just enough for me and the Mrs. Ex-Army women are ‘qualified’ too. wink wink

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Sweeeeet, cannot wait for March for the HUGE gun show.  I think I’ll be checking to see when WI’s is happening…..just sayin’

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

PicK up something compact and powerful. wink I’m at work, trying to post on blackberry inbetween customers.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

I will follow the advice you emailed me smile

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

It’s so easy to speak out against the violation of our rights. We conservatives are certainly an articulate lot. “These were police officers who went too far…” And no one stopped them and no one has taken any action since and the same white-bread, “Gimme my bargaining rights and my pension,” good old Louisiana boys still patrol the same streets, straight-faced. These police are citizens and neighbors and church members in the same communities where they confiscated guns, and they never broke stride or missed a step and they will be back whenever they are asked. No one is taking their guns….yet. “When they came for the guns owned by my fellow citizens and neighbors, I said nothing because I was one of them. Then the State boys came for the local boys…” When officers got into the homes or on the boats, it was too late to put up… Read more »

librtifirst
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librtifirst

These people were not expecting gun confiscation. That is the difference between them an me.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Wish I’d said that as straightforward as you have, librti

DCGere
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DCGere

Scary stuff…

AmericanDream12
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AmericanDream12

Which is VERY scary is : they did give up their guns!!! Agree, by force. But all the guys on Free Republic who keep on yelling that that will never works here in America if they want to take our guns should watch this video.

Very very scary. We said when obama was elected that we will not pass whatever red line – we passed all of them without doing anything but blog – now he has been reelected and we will let all the other red lines pass like the first ones.

No more braves. Just bloggers. And when they will decide to take the guns, they will!!!

Orangeone
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Orangeone

No they will not take our guns. It’s a little different in one small area with lots of traffic stops. Word will spread like lightening if Barky Boy tries this. With hundreds of millions of guns and a very small number of law enforcement, most of whom support the 2nd Amendment, never going to succeed. The libtards wouldn’t vote for him let alone get in the face of someone with a gun.

snowshooze
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snowshooze

What would I do with two infant Daughters?
Here.. take the guns. I am off the battlefield.
They pulled it off there. Looking down a barrel is enlightening.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

If you are unwilling or unable to defend yourself you’d better hope someone will assist you.  Otherwise, enjoy your daughters’ lives under Sharia

snowshooze
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snowshooze

That is where I depend upon the rest.
10 years ago, I would have a different response.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Having 2 daughters is all the more reason to protect yourself and family using any means necessary. You owe them your protection. They depend on you. If you call the police and they fail to arrive in time… or at all… Do you think they will blame the police or you for failing to protect them? Think about it.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Well said Wolfie, to do otherwise is to tell your children they are unworthy of defense.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

You put it so much better than I did. That’s what I was trying to say.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

And you said it very well.  I’m just a little more blunt.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

smile

snowshooze
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snowshooze

Considering that in this instance I would be looking down the barrel of a rifle held by a Law Enforcement Officer…
All I could say is ” Yes Sir ”
When the good guys are the bad guys, the only contest is in the courtroom.
All I could do is be polite and keep my mouth shut.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

I pray to God you are never put in the hypothetical position described above… For your daughters sake.. Have a Happy New Year. And think some more about your responsibility for protecting the innocent in your family… That’s all I can ask.

aposematic
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aposematic

The difference was in NO most that gave up their guns were made destitute by the disaster. Before they can take your guns you will be made destitute. No communication, no money, no shops, no friends, no way out…submit or die. Its the Islam way and why the Marxists running our Government love them so.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

And Barky Boy has all those Executive Orders already signed. The gov’t will seize your children, shut off your water and power and trade it for your guns. Once they have your guns, they will take everything else.

wtd
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wtd

Alarming video. I notice the last fella’s weapons were returned – probably because he followed the advise given, to get a lawyer.
Were there any follow up lawsuits? If not – why not? If so, what were the results?

American Duckie
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American Duckie

“We don’t let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?” Joseph Stalin “If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.” Joseph Stalin In 1911, Turkey imposed gun control and then, from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians were murdered. In 1929, the Soviet Union imposed gun control and over the next 24 years about 20 million dissidents were murdered. In 1938, Germany imposed gun control and then over the next seven years 13 million Jews and other victims were murdered. The difference between The United States and other nations is our 2nd Amendment. I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” George Mason “Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and… Read more »

AddisonDewitt
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AddisonDewitt

the problem is so many American’s look at this and say ” oh this would never happen in America, this America ! we would never have a dictator” ! People really need to wake up because its coming, and many many people will not miss how good they had it until it is gone. Obama bankrupting the nation, making more and more people dependent on the government, weakening our military while strengthening our enemies world over…then disarm the American people and let a foreign nation invade…sounds like Twilight Zone…not so much anymore

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I agree. Too many people are blinded by dear leader’s hope, change and free stuff, they could never believe he’s not their messiah. Dear leader will try- but I’m praying more people will wake up and learn the truth of this evil dictator wannabe. It’s going to be ugly no matter which way it goes, but I’d rather go through the ugly that will bring us back to a Constitutional Republic the way it’s supposed to be.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

One thing to consider, the more military members back in the US when Barky Boy tries for our guns the better. The 1st Civil War will be nothing compared to the final one.

BikerHoop
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BikerHoop

Ugly is coming. This is just another branch of the ugly tree. We need to not only cut this tree down, but dig out the roots, too, so it will never grow again.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Amen and well said! Plant the Liberty Tree in it’s place. Happy Blessed New Year BikerHoop!!

BikerHoop
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BikerHoop

Thanks, ABC… rightbackatcha.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Fill the hole with gallons of RoundUp so it can never take root again.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Just burn the soil. RoundUp causes cancer. smile

BikerHoop
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BikerHoop

Yeah, that’ll work.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself.
They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone
under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie
wagon and citizens firearms are indelibly related.”

– George Washington

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms …. disarm only
those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
Such laws make things worse for the assaulted
and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage
than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be
attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”

– Thomas Jefferson

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Barky Boy will do like Hitler, have the brown shirts show up in the middle of the night and just start shooting. Remember the ghettos?

librtifirst
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librtifirst

That is what drug enforcement does. They get a tip that someone might have some pot, then they break down their door at 0300. Often times the dog gets shot, and nobody has any drugs. They couldn’t just show up with a warrant during the day time. It is terrorism.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

My tweet: New sign for my yard: This 2nd Amendment supporting American WILL NOT defend unarmed liberals.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

[edit-moved here from wrong “fiscal cliff” thread.]
Yard sign suggestion: I’m a Conservative Gun Owner. My neighbor is a Liberal pacifist non-gun owner: Which house do you want to break into?

Orangeone
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Orangeone

10,000 likes Wolfie!

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

smile Thanks, you’re is worth 10,000 as well! So now we’re even! wink

Orangeone
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Orangeone

:):):)

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Wolfie, you could make a ton of money making that sign. I’d buy one along with millions of others. Better get the patent on it right away, especially before it becomes an assault weapon of sorts and gets banned. smile

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

I don’t have the wherewithall to get that done. I just suggested it, if someone else wants to run with it, I’m fine with that. smile

Orangeone
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Orangeone

If the collective scoopers do it, we could advertise sales on this site (ca-ching for Scoop) and Scoop could receive a little commission too. Now that’s how capitalism works, as if we all didn’t know that already smile

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

That would sure beat some of the ads I’ve seen here (knowing that Scoop has no control over that, of course).

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I’m on it, Wolfie. I’ll cut you a commision when I get it done.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

I’m not sure if you’re joking or not, but if you’re serious.. Go for it! smile

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

No, seriously, I’m looking into it. I really think a sign like that would catch on bigtime and someone has to start the ball rolling. After all, if Obama is going to destroy small businesses, why not have one that millions would go for before I’m taxed to death on it.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Best of luck.. And I don’t need any cut, that’s what I said originally and I’ve to stick to that. It will be just reward to see if anyone buys them. God Bless.

BikerHoop
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BikerHoop

The signs on my front and rear doors:

Nothing in here worth dying for.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

That would make me move on…. Rather lively! smile

BikerHoop
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BikerHoop

Heheh… that’s the intent.

Pyrran
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Pyrran

IF YOU CAN READ THIS, YOU’RE IN RANGE

Orangeone
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Orangeone

I LOVE it!

NJK
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NJK
Orangeone
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Orangeone

Like it! Check out the signs some of us have proposed too smile

MJS
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MJS

Next time shoot first-I don’t care who comes to the door.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

What if it’s the UPS guy? AT least look out the window first… wink

MJS
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MJS

lol…only if he’s bringing more ammo ;P

warpmine
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warpmine

LOL!

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

If there is a brown truck with gold letters on it sitting in front of my house in the middle of the day, fine. If it’s midnight and my locked door handle is moving, beware. I can buy another front door. wink

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

I like how you think! smile

20Chitowndemrevenuestream12
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20Chitowndemrevenuestream12

i’m a UPS guy and thanks for your consideration(if its fed ex fire away)

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

smile (Looks around to see if any FedEx guy pops up?)

librtifirst
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librtifirst

They are a federal agency, just like the Federal Reserve, right? smile

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

smile Easy there itchy finger.. Might just be a delivery guy! smile

Orangeone
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Orangeone

smile Hopefully UPS will change your uniforms soon, wouldn’t want to lose you to friendly fire….

Frank8881
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Frank8881

What if it is the postman?

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