TYRANNY: New Mexico Supreme Court says wedding photographers can’t refuse gay weddings

A case we’ve followed over the years has finally come to the highest court in New Mexico and the ruling from this court violates the very essence of the first amendment. The New Mexico Supreme Court ruled that Elane Photography, or any photographer, cannot refuse a gay wedding. It is considered discrimination:

In a closely watched case on gay rights, religious freedom, artistic freedom, the speech rights of businesses, and a host of other legal hot button issues, the New Mexico Supreme Court today ruled that wedding photographers could not refuse to shoot gay ceremonies.

“When Elane Photography refused to photograph a same-sex commitment ceremony, it violated the [New Mexico Human Rights Act, or NMHRA] in the same way as if it had refused to photograph a wedding between people of different races,” the court said in a unanimous verdict.

In 2008 Elane Huguein, who runs Elane Photography, refused a gay ceremony on the basis that she only photographed traditional weddings and she has been fighting for her freedom in court ever since. Now, unless the Supreme Court will take up the issue, it appears that all photographers in New Mexico will be compelled to photograph gay weddings or risk being sued for refusing.



One of the judges even wrote in their concurring opinion that this ruling is the “price of citizenship”:

In the smaller, more focused world of the marketplace, of commerce, of public accommodation, the Huguenins have to channel their conduct, not their beliefs, so as to leave space for other Americans who believe something different. That compromise is part of the glue that holds us together as a nation, the tolerance that lubricates the varied moving parts of us as a people. That sense of respect we owe others, whether or not we believe as they do, illuminates this country, setting it apart from the discord that afflicts much of the rest of the world. In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship.

So we have to divorce our conduct from our beliefs once we enter the ‘world of the marketplace’? What do they think we are, politicians? My conduct is based on my beliefs and if I divorce the two then I have ripped apart the very integrity that makes me who I am.

If this is indeed the cost of citizenship, we need to change our country’s name to the United Socialist States of America. Because we are no longer a constitutional republic.

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Caleb Foster
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Could you imagine if Elane Photography ended up shooting the gay wedding and then the gays made a huge stink about how bad the pictures turned out?

AlessandraBarros
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bfunk AlessandraBarros  
At least one very large study showed that 40% of LGBTs are involved in intimate violence, and that’s when they aren’t harassing and abusing heterosexuals

Fight free or Die Slaves
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jeffrey728
The outrage comes from a group of people using politics to try and force Christians, Jews, and other people of faith to accept something that is sacrilegious. I don’t know where you are getting your info but this republic was founded by Christians.

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There’s not reason to disobey the laws if you voluntarily move into a regulated space, such as commerce. People of faith have always had their behaviors constrained in public settings. I don’t understand all this outrage about something that’s been going on since the founding of the republic!

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Ethan VanderbuiltMy allegiance is to God/Jesus even over my own life. Love is not sex. It never has been and never will be. God created us male and female for the purposes of reproduction and not a condition of love. It is you sir that is truly ignorant. Do you honestly believe this is the first time in history this homosexual experiment has been tried? Many times it has been tried and it always ends with the self destruction of the people and the nation that tries it. I am appalled that after all this time human beings have not learned the lessons of history. Homosexuality is a state of mental insanity. There is no Homosexual gene and hoping its there is irrelevant. It’s not. 
Anyone who positions themselves against God will meet their end by their own hands. Just remember that.

Ethan Vanderbuilt
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We should not let the ignorance of the past cloud our judgement for today about love.
http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2013/06/26/love-is-love-2/

Bill589
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MattDamon Be gay.  Go in peace.  I don’t hate you.  Just don’t force me to take a sacrilegious picture of you.

bfunk
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TracyS1979 Prophetic words, it would seem.

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AlessandraBarros I think I saw an article on American Thinker last year that spoke about what you’re talking about. I think it was the result of some factual findings about abuse and violence in the LGBT community. It is a shame.

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MattDamonWatchman74

 I doubt that it was left out. Either the lesbian couple asked why they
were refused service, or the opinion was offered. Either way doesn’t
matter. In this country, we have free speech and freedom of religion.
It’s the studio’s right to practice their religion however they want.
They also have the right to say what they want. The same is true of the
lesbian couple. The only two things we can say without doubt is that the
situation could’ve been handled better by the lesbian couple and the
photographers, and that the NM Supreme Court doesn’t have any right to
make the decision they made.

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MattDamon njmom And you never have either apparently.  It’s also mentioned in the new testament.
Matt Damon…
FAILS.

KenInMontana
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Cowe And you can take your trolling elsewhere.

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AlessandraBarros  I know.  I get irritated when the religious right says they are going to stay at home if a conservative candidate says he wants to leave it up to the states whether or not to legalize abortions (for example).  Conservative states would shut down abortion and the liberal states wouldn’t, but it’s better than right now where all states have abortions.  But, when they stay home that candidate loses and the far worse candidate….like Obama….wins and he believes and legalizes partial birth abortions.
People say it’s choosing the less of two evils, but sometimes the lesser evil makes one he** of a difference in law and policy.
Even if we think a conservative is moderate, we still need to go vote for him/her, because the alternative is outright communist.

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stage9 So you’r saying if a person believes in sexual morality we are bigots. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature not a race. If you consider them a race then you will need to consider rapists, pedophiles and those who practice bestiality their own race protected by anti discrimination laws. 
So tell us where is the line drawn where we can say “NO THAT IS IMMORAL” without being bigots or do you just want a national free for all?

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MattDamon regularrightguy And by the way your movies suck.

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MattDamon regularrightguy 1st of all marriage is a Judaeo-Christian established institution and our God views Homosexuality as an abomination. Leviticus 18:22 “22 You shall not lie with a male as [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+18%3A22%2CLeviticus+20%3A13%2C1+Corinthians+6%3A9&version=NASB#fen-NASB-3274a]one lies with a female; it is an abomination.” And Yes it is also in the new testament as well”1 Timothy 1:8-11 8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. 2nd of all hiring a photographer is not a right it is a contract between a contractor and a consumer. Both parties must agree to a mutually… Read more »

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MattDamon tinlizzieowner volgeek
I know this is going to come as a surprise to you but I do have a ‘pair of balls’. With the help of a woman, they created 3 healthy, happy, ‘straight’ women and 8 healthy, happy ‘straight’ grandchildren, just like nature meant it to be. Castigate me all you will, it makes no difference to me. As much as you would like to suppress MY right to free expression, my statement from above still stands.
“If somebody is so insecure in their sexuality, they feel the need to wear it around like a cheap (I’m Queer, and I’m here) tee shirt, they have no right to be ‘offended’ should I exercise MY right to ‘free expression’ and refuse to cater to them. It’s just that simple.” wink
Now, go return to your to little liberal, Hollywood, ‘Batman’, fantasy land, like a good little boy (or whatever). wink wink

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MattDamon WSobchak   I still don’t buy your argument Matt.  Most gays use other gays for professional and legal needs.  My accountant advertises in the Pink Pages and does so for his friends.  I think he is a good accountant too.  And going back to an earlier post I stand by my original statement that I think most gay people are of the opinion, and often rightly so, that gay people have more artistic flair, and therefore would have chosen a gay photographer for their most important wedding ceremony and only asked who they knew in advance to be an opinionated anti-gay photographer to do their wedding.

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MattDamon  Can’t answer for everyone here Matt, but as for me, I don’t care if people are gay.  But you will never get me to believe that you don’t have an agenda demanding that I accept the behavior as normal.  The required responsibility from a biological perspective is for the the human specie to reproduce and that is not a possibility without utilizing modern medicine other than by a male and female relationship.  I don;t care if you are gay Matt, but you don’t have the right to tell me I have to accept it.  It’s called live and let live, and you don’t want me to have an opinion.  You came on this site last night trashing 6 or 7 people for their beliefs, and from what I’ve read, none of those people are out to get your or homosexuals.  We just don’t think it’s right that part of… Read more »

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MattDamon
I don’t think I’m wrong Matt

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TracyS1979 MattDamon You have an even better argument TracyS. Bet you don’t like his movies either. Lol.

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MattDamon regularrightguy As usual you miss the point, Matt. Gays have the right to put their appendages wherever they want, within certain legal parameters; they even have the right to marry in some states. What they don’t have the right to do is force someone to work for them who doesn’t want to. That’s called slavery. But good luck with that.

AlessandraBarros
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volgeek – It’s like whipping a run away slave, so others don’t try to do the same

AlessandraBarros
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Fight free or Die Slaves – Home of the meek, land of the perverts!

AlessandraBarros
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BarryInLasVegas -The First Amendment is in shreds after this…

AlessandraBarros
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kong1967 -Exactly, none of this would be happening if socons got out to vote and voted for other socons!

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MattDamonsaid: 1) Gay people are bullied relentlessly in schools, ridiculed for
something they can’t help, live in fear of being physically attacked at
any moment and are persistently made to feel like the dirt of the earth.
All this essentially because they feel affection for another human
being. 
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What a bunch of pink propaganda. The people who do most violence to LGBT indivdiuals are LGBT themselves – garbage of people that they often are. There are millions of violent LGBT people in the US today. And they harass, molest, and bother heterosexuals as well.

LGBT are too stupid and self-serving to take responsibility for their mental problems in the sphere of sexuality and relationships, most do not seek to investigate nor treat their problem. 
 And sexual desire is not the same as affection – they are sexually perverted, when not perverse as well.
And now they want to be obnoxious pigs to everyone else.

AlessandraBarros
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I simply do not understand how these cases can be framed as discrimination from a legal standpoint. The provider is refusing to provide service because they would be serving a destructive political and social agenda. These are freedom of conscience cases, much more than freedom of speech. The compelled speech is just the type of compelled behavior (working for people who are destroying society because of their political agenda). It’s no different than being asked to take photographs of a Neo-Nazi event and refusing. There is no such thing as equating “sexual orientation” to race (or any in-born physical characteristics), thus legislation that equate it to racial discrimination is empty of meaning. It is a fraudulent concept at its very root. This is just one more case that evidences that every piece of legislation regarding discrimination based on sexual orientation is a fraud and must be scrapped. Lastly, and the… Read more »

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MattDamon — Two of the worst arguments you can make on any issue are ad hominem attacks and straw man arguments–and I would use this post as a perfect example of both. Granted, I’ve seen other examples of both on the other side of this particular issue, but yours was a shining example of how to avoid the actual issue at hand (the right to free association, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech in this case) and resort to personal attacks (ad hominem) and “you either violate your own personal beliefs and values, or you’re a bigot” (straw man) arguments.

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MattDamon — I’m trying to figure out how exactly a private citizen’s declining to offer his/her services to an event they have personal objections to infringes on someone’s “right to hire a photograph at their wedding.” The lesbian who had asked these people to photograph her event ended up hiring someone else to do the work, I imagine without objection from the Hugueins or anyone else. Further, what the majority of Americans think about gay marriage has nothing to do with this case. At issue is whether any individual American should be compelled, under threat of government censure, to do work they don’t want to do or object to. Apparently, you are OK with that, as I imagine many brainwashed Europeans are. Finally, the argument, “Imagine a straight wedding where the bride was told she didn’t deserve her marriage because of her ancestry or her eye colour or because the photographer didn’t… Read more »

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tinlizzieowner volgeek – Seriously, you people shut your eyes, cover your eyes and blind yourself to the outside world. You believe what you want to believe, or rather, what you’ve been told to believe. Everything you’re fighting for is essentially your ‘right’ to make other people’s lives a misery. You act as if you’re being forced into a gay marriage. No. You’re being forced to grow the hell up, act like an adult, and treat others in your society with respect. It doesn’t matter what you believe about gay marriage. Your opinion on gay marriage is no more of interest to anyone else than your opinion on skiing, Sweden or mushy peas. Fair enough if you don’t like them, but it’s not the state’s responsibility to make sure you never have to work with them. Refusing a job for someone based on the grounds they’re gay is as moronic as refusing… Read more »

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americalsgt – What is even wrong with you. Claw your way out your own little fantasy world and open your eyes.

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bfunk Watchman74 – she probably could have refused without giving a reason. But this article (purposefully, I’d bet) missed out the fact that the photographer went out of her way to tell the lesbian couple they didn’t deserve her service because she didn’t condone their marriage.

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regularrightguy – No, the majority of people think that everyone in America deserves the same rights as everyone else. Like the right to hire a photographer at their WEDDING, regardless of how they were born. Imagine a straight wedding where the bride was told she didn’t deserve her marriage because of her ancestry or her eye colour or because the photographer didn’t think she wasn’t pretty. That’s essentially the ‘values’ you’re fighting for. And if you think you’re in the majority, you haven’t looked at any opinion polls of late. Most Americans are in favor of same-sex marriage and have been for several years now.

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WSobchak – Oh no, you have to take photos! And help someone have the happiest day of their life! They’re taking away your right to be a dick!

MattDamon
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njmom – You clearly never read the bit of the Bible with Jesus in it.

MattDamon
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1) Gay people are bullied relentlessly in schools, ridiculed for something they can’t help, live in fear of being physically attacked at any moment and are persistently made to feel like the dirt of the earth. All this essentially because they feel affection for another human being. They’re told they are incapable of love, the spawn of Satan, and all kinds of other horrific things, often from their own parents and friends. All they want is the right to eat, sleep, work and marry the person they love without abuse or discrimination from their fellow man. 2) Straight people have to take a couple of pictures. They feel mildly uncomfortable. Oh, I wonder who’s really oppressed here. If you think it’s the straight people, you’re delusional. Painfully delusional. You’ve been spoonfed lies and propaganda to believe you’ve got it hard, when there are gay people dying because of your ignorance.… Read more »

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mcgurn Yes, sticking together would help. How about forming a loosely organized chain that businesses can join, one that has guidelines or principles it follows and to which the individual stores can refer? Christian Business Association of America or something simila?. I know nothing about business, but there must be a way to place oneself under the cover of a larger organization for the sake of protection.

KenInMontana
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kong1967 We need to call it what it is, Progressivism, not Liberalism. Liberalism is a term the Progressives hijacked.

Cowe
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Oh wow how terrifying. You guys have it so f****ng hard!

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