Vermont: Catholic-owned inn forced to pay large fines for refusing lesbian wedding reception



The assault on the freedom of religion continues as this Catholic-owned country inn, who refused to host a lesbian wedding reception due to deeply held religious beliefs, is forced to capitulate to a lawsuit and pay a hefty fine because they don’t have the “limitless resources of the government and the ACLU” to keep defending their belief in traditional marriage:

CBN NEWS – A Vermont country inn is paying large penalties after being sued by a lesbian couple.

The American Civil Liberties Union helped the two New York women sue the Catholic-owned business located in the town of Lyndonville.

They argued The Wildflower Inn had no right to refuse to host the the couple’s “bride and bride” wedding reception.

The inn’s owners have agreed to pay a $10,000 civil penalty to the Vermont Human Rights Commission and place $20,000 in a charitable trust.

“The Wildflower Inn has always served — and will continue to serve — everyone in our community,” owner Jim O’Reilly said in a statement. “But no one can force us to abandon our deeply held beliefs about marriage.”

O’Reilly said the inn could not “match the limitless resources of the government and the ACLU.”

The Alliance Defending Freedom represented the inn’s owners. The organization said they had stopped hosting all wedding events months beforehand, but agreed to the settlement to put the expensive case behind them.

When those who want same-sex marriage gain a legal right, those who disagree lose a legal right. It’s just that simple.

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Ruthie3
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Ruthie3

I’d be holding an old fashion tent-revival on the same day as the scheduled wedding reception! Bring in some snake-handlers from WV & KY & TN (I’m from TN so don’t get offended) and let them hold court on that same day. Fire with Fire!

GeorgiaPeachie
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GeorgiaPeachie

Where are people’s legal right to RELIGIOUS FREEDOM??? We need to put an end to the attack on Christians by the depraved!

nc
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nc

This kind of nonsense won’t stop as long as this tiny percentage of our population continues to dominate the national conversation. One false assumption they have gotten many to buy into is: opposing gay marriage =racial bigotry.

chatterbox365
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chatterbox365

Next time a pro-gay initiative comes up in your state, you all know how to vote.

I remember when the gays just wanted to come out of the closet and live peaceful in our society. The ACLU is a rotten organization.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Anti-Christian, Libtard Union!

Jay
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Jay

I thought it was Anti-American Communist Leftoid Unit. I guess I stand corrected.

physicsnut
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physicsnut

its really about time to sue the ACLU out of existence, along with any of these socalled judges and juries who go along with this – they just don’t care what the Bill of Rights says.

Post911GI
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Post911GI

This is unbelievebly sad, if i were a nudist and demanded service at a mcdonalds i’d be locked up (granted there are other factors in play) but at the core it goes agaisnt their rules and neither the government nor these lesbo attention-hor’s should have any say in a private entities policy.

There is a section in our constitution, which i proudly swore to defend, that gives citizens the responsiblity to take action in times such as these. If not now, when? If not us, who? This is some scary stuff and unfortunately for the libs my bible and my guns are all that can comfort me for now…

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Thanks for your service and welcome to TRS!

bobemakk
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bobemakk

This is a disgrace, traditional marriage between a man and a woman only…..that’s it.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Absolute Bloody disgrace! What happened to Catholics rights? Christians rights?

We all saw this happening when homosexual “marriage” was forced upon us by the Libtards!

libertyandtyranny
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libertyandtyranny

The left only wants freedom for them, not for you. Such intolerant BIGOTS.

Jasper Silvis
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Jasper Silvis

Yet they would be allowed to deny service to a heterosexual couple and not have to give a reason. Government compelling business to serve others? That’s what fascism looks like, liberal idiots!

DearDonkey.com
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DearDonkey.com

This isn’t going to stop. And I fear it will get worse and worse. Wouldn’t it be great if someone set up a fund that took donations and that money could be used to help pay legal fees for people like the Inn owners? There is a strong chance we’ll never win this battle in court. But we can help people stand up for their beliefs by helping them pay the fines that come from the liberal courts. Just a thought…

GaltLine
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GaltLine

Don’t pay the fines. Run full page ads all over Vermont. Describe the Vermont Uncivil Human Rights Commission coercion and why you will not comply. You will make up for the fines by all your allies in and out of the state who will flock to your business, paying customers.

Jim James
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Jim James

I wonder if the ACLU would defend a Christian or Jewish couple who wished to have their reception at a Muslim-owned venue?

Libertyship46
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Libertyship46

Sad that the owners of the inn were not represented by some of the many conservative legal groups out there that would have represented them for free. This sounds like a case that could have gone all the way to the Supreme Court. And the court probably would have sided with the inn. The court usually comes down on the side of religious freedom and this case forces the inn’s owners to toss out their religious beliefs in favor of doing what a political minority wants. Pity, it was a good case and had a good chance of being won all the way up to the Supreme Court.

Yazz55
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Yazz55

I see this as a very dangerous double edge sword type of an issue. It swings both ways.

I saw this article about a muslim owned hotel discriminating against an Israeli group, based on nationality.

http://news.yahoo.com/jury-says-muslim-hotel-owner-discriminated-140831566.html?_esi=1

publius1969
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publius1969

even if obama manages to steal another election, we must pressure our reps, and I mean really pressure our reps, to defund the aclu. They have been using our money to take God out of our culture. This is one example of lawfare and forcing acceptance of the unnatural. I don’t care what these people do in private but neither they nor the government have the right to force us to accept this crap. We have to stop this insanity…

el_polacko
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el_polacko

good grief ! did anyone here actually read the article? this is not about a church performing a ceremony, it’s about the renting of a reception hall. sheesh…some of you folks really are blinded by bigotry.

JoeMontana16
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JoeMontana16

So now sodomy is bigotry. Wow. What’s the next thing liberals will throw into the hate speech category. Sodomy is not a civil rights issue. Its a sexual preference and you are allowed to do it. Just like beastiality. Its your preference and people dont have to agree with it. There is a thing called religious freedom and the ability to do so. If sodomites don’t like the Inns beliefs then don’t go there! !!

donalddt
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donalddt

Would you call Jesus a bigot? You can’t call people bigots because they disagree with you. Remember what happened to Sodom.

el_polacko
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el_polacko

what the heck does “catholic-owned” mean ?? the vatican owns the inn ?
even if that is the case, if you are running a public accomodation business and there are non-discrimination laws that apply to such businesses, then you must adhere to the law regardless of any personal bias. that’s not an “attack on religion”.

12grace
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12grace

The bible says it is wrong and the state says it is right. Pick one. Hagee: Gay Marriage = ‘Kiss This Country Goodbye’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeMZ9QkU-AY John Piper – Why is homosexuality wrong? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n078cvLw8I&feature=related Were the Catholic owners of the INN right to deny the lesbian couple? I believe they were following bible doctrine, the bible says homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of the Lord and assisting others to sin is a great wrong. I think the Lesbian couple is out of line to expect the INN to by-pass their religious convictions for the couple. The popular false belief is that if Christians are loving toward one another they should not speak out against homosexuality or other types of sin. Love the sinner not the sin. Another false belief is that Christians that speak out against homosexuality hate gay people ad mean them harm. Christianity is founded on principles of peace… Read more »

Jim McCormack
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Jim McCormack

Now we’ve lost the freedom to choose those with whom we want to serve in our business.
I reject many potential clients for a lot or reasons..No one has sued yet but I’m selling it ASAP because I feel threatened all the time now..

joyfulgiver
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joyfulgiver

I say we all start sending them a few bucks to help in their defense. Rise up! Do the Chick-Fil-A.

Watchman74
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Watchman74

So yea, same sex marriage doesn’t just affect those involved, it has an effect on society as well. Case in point this article.

texflower
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texflower

I wonder about the “charitable trust ” eh ?

gothicreader
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gothicreader

I’m glad they held to their beliefs.
Paying the penalty is nonsensical compared to capitulating. As Jesus said; we will be persecuted because of our love for Him.

Bobn
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Bobn

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EpicCenter
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EpicCenter

Hey Scoop! Is there a way to donate to them? Let us know with an update!

Michael
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Michael

Again…religious freedom or forced tyranny??? Sorry if I am not mistaken this is a private inn??? They take no public money then why should they be forced to serve to lesbians? Again the ACLU is the greatest institution seeking the destruction of the US from within? Any traditional value is untolerated….get rid of prayer in school, destroy Christmas, force behavior on someone that does not agree and more!! There are plenty of places these two lovebirdettes could have been married!! Go look up in one of your Gay Guides. No one has to accept your behavior and most never will not matter what you think. IT IS NURTURE NOT NATURE and no matter how hard these kooks think they can force themselves upon the rest of us THEY WILL NEVER SUCCEED. What you do is your business but I am sick of these type of people thinking they have the… Read more »

sDee
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sDee

Every (you-fill-in-the-blank) Rights “movement” in America has been designed to give rights to one group not granted another. They have all at the same time taken away our right of association.

The same “conservative” women like Condoleezza Rice, who cheer on the marxist coercion of Augusta National cannot see, they are no different than these lesbian thugs.

When we grant rights to some citizens, not granted to others, we willingly give up our freedom.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

This is absolutely obsurd. The Inn owners have their rights under the constitution and the lessies can go to a state that accepts this illecit behavior.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

“When those who want same-sex marriage gain a legal right, those who disagree lose a legal right it’s just that simple.” Scoop And that’s what the homosexual lobby is aiming for. It’s too bad the folks who own this inn can’t find help enough to fight this sham of a case, because now that they’ve paid a so called “human rights” organization, they will be targeted in the future until they’re forced to sell out. Since when does a private business have to accept any business they don’t want? What’s next, being forced to rent space to illegals for free? Rent space to people who have a pet hog and demand rights to let them have their pet in their room? I mean where will it end. Three cheers for the homosexual lobby, I’m sure they’re thrilled. Too bad that private citizens are no longer able to have the freedom… Read more »

mscarpenter
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mscarpenter

There is no better force for democracy than a free market. It seams to me that this issue, more than many others, exemplifies this truth. If a gay couple really believes in freedom they would find an inn that would agree with their world view. But no! Instead, they file a lawsuit forcing the Catholic Inn to PAY! Forcing all of us, who disagree with them, to buy what they are selling instead of them finding a buyer of there goods.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I agree Michael. They care more about their agenda and what they want than they do a free market. It’s almost like payback and now they have the opportunity because of the “first gay president”. Blech!

Winston Smith
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Winston Smith

no wonder people dislike gays…

bayway48
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bayway48

What a bunch of bull crap. I’m going to pass this on the my brother. A Baptist minister would not perform his marriage to his wife because he had been married before. The minister did not believe in divorce regardless of the circumstances. Did my brother make a stink about it? No, he just asked my Methodist Bishop to join them in matrimony and he did so gladly. The owners of this Inn will get their $10K back by Christmas with an onslaught of bookings. My brother will be in that area in September to watch the fall foliage. He just might do a second honeymoon at this quaint Vermont Inn.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Well, I guess it’s on. Two sides can play this game.

I think it’s high time someone decided to plan a huge Roman Catholic marriage ceremony, with all the trimmings, in a California gay community church and then find a neighborhood Mosque in which to hold the wedding reception, with the center piece of the feast being roast pig and tons of bacon.

One wonders how quick the left will be to decry freedom of religion for these poor gays and muslims. It’s worth a shot, though (even though I suspect we would lose that lawsuit as well).

I agree with Smith Smith, it’s time for losers of every lawsuit to have to pay all the fees and costs of the winners. It may not stop these stupid lawsuits, but the ACLU would finally back off, as money is more important to them than individual rights.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

“find a neighborhood Mosque in which to hold the wedding reception, with the center piece of the feast being roast pig and tons of bacon.” Do we need a wedding to do that? Can we do it anyway?

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Great idea! What about the R Squared victory parties all held at Mosques with roasted pig and bacon as the main courses!

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

You know I love bacon!!!

p m
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p m

We could do with a bacon thread – I’m serious. Food of the Gods.
Tried thick-sliced alder-smoked? Divine :))

12grace
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12grace

LOL!

Landscaper
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Landscaper

Just another Chick-Fil-A, cupcake shop story here. This Inn will get flooded with calls for reservations from people who otherwise would never heard of this place. Way to go ACLU, you just made this Inn FAMOUS! Backfire is a Bi**ch.

B-Funk
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B-Funk

On principle, we need to gather these businesses together and as one they can tell the aclu and gov’t where to shove it!

Landscaper
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Landscaper

Colonoscopy for(of) the Liberal…

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Crazy times, folks. Crazy times.

MaxineCA
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MaxineCA

Here’s a more detailed story. Looks to me that the owners were set up. Here’s a portion of the article:

“A former Wildflower employee sparked the lawsuit when she falsely claimed that the inn would not allow a same-sex reception,” the alliance said in a statement. “The inn’s actual business practice, which the Vermont Human Rights Commission approved in 2005, was to honestly disclose its owners’ religious convictions to potential customers while agreeing to serve everyone in accordance with the law.”

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Vermont-inn-2-women-settle-gay-marriage-lawsuit-3810268.php#ixzz24VSBEqZG

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Looks like workplace retaliation to me.

Don
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Don

When the minority is able to legally force their will on religious freedoms of the majority on the scale we see today it is coming from Obama and his appointed thugs to break the will of the people in order to force the transformation of our country down our thoats. Our country was founded because of religious persecution and now we are seeing that happen again with absolutely no regards for our Constitutional rights. History is repeating itself.

Rightstuff1
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Rightstuff1

That’s a really great point.

Cheryl Fallon
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Cheryl Fallon

This is why this President must be voted out in November!

denbren52
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denbren52

STAND YOUR GROUND!!! If enough citizens stand their ground, tyranny cannot win!!!

toongoon
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toongoon

Sharia comes to America wearing the mask of tolerance.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Wait until Sharia comes knocking on their doors. There is no tolerance for this behavior and they take no prisoners.

12grace
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12grace

Yes, well-stated, t.

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