UPDATE: CONSERVATIVE GROUPS RESPOND – Boehner attacks conservative groups again, says they have lost credibility

Boehner says this deal takes GIANT strides in the right direction while admitting it doesn’t do everything he wants. But he doesn’t understand why conservative groups opposed the agreement before they even saw it and because they did he says they have lost credibility.

Watch:



Mark Levin said last night that Boehner’s own people were calling media people over the weekend to talk about the pending deal. So when he wonders why they criticized it before they saw the agreement, it’s because these groups already had an idea of what the deal would be.

Erick Erickson wonders if there isn’t something else going on here:

That kinda makes sense, considering the reports that we’ve heard about Boehner pushing for immigration in such a way that it doesn’t hurt his members.

UPDATE: Conservative groups respond to Boehner saying they knew about the deal because Boehner’s office leaked it:

One of those conservative groups responded questioning Boehner’s credibility. “When it comes to ‘credibility,’ actions speak louder than words.” FreedomWorks President Matt Kibbe said in a statement. “And right now, it looks like the Speaker is leading the charge for spending increases and recruiting Democrat votes in the House to help get it done.” Dan Holler, communications director for Heritage Action, found the speaker’s comments to be “bizarre.” “Everybody in town knew what the deal looked like,” at least in part due to leaks out of the speaker’s office, he told National Journal. “Everything we warned about…is all true.”

Just like Levin said on his show last night. Boehner’s office leaked it out and now feigns ignorance on why they opposed it before they saw it. What a freaking putz.

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USMC 64-68
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USMC 64-68

His attack on conservatives is a revelation of his true allegiances. It isn’t to those supporting and defending conservative principles.

12grace
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12grace

Boehner is projecting his own lack of credibility being evident to the American people now. Boehner is a traitor. I wonder if they black mailed Boehner or promised him fame or fortune or if he has always been a leftist?

skl20
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skl20

And you sir couldn’t be more wrong! You fear the inevitable…that the Tea Party is stronger than ever! Tread carefully because you might be primaried, and your opponent will probably be a Tea Party candidate, who will probably win! You forget where your bread is buttered! Think back to 2010, it was the Tea Party that GOTV! Now you bite the hand that put you there. What a pitiful human being you are. Obama is just as thrilled having you as speaker as he was Pelosi. You are equally as generous. One big difference between the two of you…she had cohones, and Barack knew this…you are weak, and he knows this!

Grumpa37
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Grumpa37

This budget takes tiny tiptoe steps into posing as conservatives and voting (in congress) as communists. It also pulls the teeth from sequester cuts. Please, Establishment, disestablish.

timsrighty
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timsrighty

If you can’t identify the enemy you’ll never defeat the enemy. Conservatives are not the friggin’ enemy. this guy looks like a burned out, waste of blood and organs. How dare he blame the only group of people who actually give a damn. the right wing in this country has no party to count on any more. Crazies to the left of me, wimps to the right. and Boehner, you are one sorry wimp.

Amedicinewoman
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Amedicinewoman

Actually he looks and sounds like a drunk.

aposematic
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aposematic

More and more the Re’s become the D’s muscle…must pay really well.

timerunnersc
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timerunnersc

Must be time for another snorts kind of sorts.

maketcomp
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maketcomp

This is all manufactured outrage by the Speaker designed to drive a wedge between the Republicans. Boehner is NOT a leader-he’s a follower.

12grace
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12grace

Benedict Arnold has nothing on Boehner.

Lynn Roland
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Lynn Roland

Well, some people are just plain TIRED of Boehner
http://westchesterbuzz.com/2013/12/11/meet-john-boehners-expected-opponents/

lawngren
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lawngren

Now back to the main topic: why is boehner still displaying an R after his name? Seriously, this former man has gone completely over to the enemy.

Why is the rino “leadership” not at this very moment scourging boehner with scorpions?

Oh, that’s right. I forgot: the Twin Party System. For a moment there I was living in memory land … I used to be a citizen of a wonderful place called America. Now I’m a subject of the obamanation.

lawngren
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lawngren

“…please be respectful of others and do not engage in personal attacks.”

“What a freaking putz.”

HAHAHAHahaha … sorry, Scoop, I couldn’t help it ….. boehner just drives you crazy like the rest of us and you forget the rules and say what should be said. As I and many others have. Nor we don’t regret it, neither.

K-Bob, please don’t revoke Scoop’s comment privileges! Watching him go nuts is one of the compensations for living under a socialist dictator!

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Heh. Well, Scoop has always allowed leeway with public figures.

We’d have to delete a huge chunk of comments if we didn’t.

Although we don’t allow people to use really foul language in doing so. Besides, insults in Yiddish are always in good taste.

lawngren
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lawngren

grin

$73426719
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$73426719

Still picking my jaw off the floor. Will comment when done. Although, this might take a while.

Booker
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Booker

Wasn’t Boehner in office during the profligate spending of the Bush years? Get back to me when you have a higher moral ground.

deTocqueville1
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deTocqueville1

Yes!

warpmine
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warpmine

Carrot’s strategy….give Obama and the Dems anything and everything under the sun.

Conservator1
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Conservator1

Boehner and every Republican who votes for this deal are dead to me forever. I’ve tried to defend the GOP from good conservatives who don’t see a difference between either party.

After watching this video and the lead-up to the final vote in the House today, frack the Speaker and damn any Republican who stands by him.

Longiron, you were right – Boehner just proved it to me.

SheerPolitics
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SheerPolitics

“Move the ball down the field” or ‘kick the can down the road’?

publius
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publius

I have taken heat from “conservatives,” because I said I would not vote for Romney. I go one further, now.
If I lived in Boehner’s district, I’d vote for the Democrat.

deTocqueville1
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deTocqueville1

Exactly. These people who talk conservative and then find any number of reasons (excuses) to support these RINOs like Bonehead and McConnell and do not support primary challengers using all sorts of poor rationalizations are sickening. Better to get these disasters out with real Dems then have a festering pustule as a pseudo conservative alternative.

iVillageIdiot
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iVillageIdiot

Boehner’s not a Democrat? How can you tell? wink

CO2isGood
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CO2isGood

Vote Democrat Cal?

In respect for collective conservative frustration I would certainly agree that Boehner should be primaried.

BUT…..

Supporting the the most liberal choice because you are just too darn conservative to vote for and elect a RINOs is pretty strange logic.

It is one kind of madness to not follow Buckley’s advice and vote for the most conservative dog in the race, it is a whole new kind of madness to actually vote for the most liberal. That is the very definition of liberal logic.

I understand that there were a certain number of “Conservatives” that stayed home for Romney, because he was not “conservative” enough, and now as a consequence we are enjoying the most Liberal President to ever grace the White House. Sound logic…NOT!

BearNJ
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BearNJ

Not that everyone should vote Democrat but if you can take out a destructive back stabbers like Boehner and Cantor then why not? It won’t change the house just the leadership. As Bill Parcells said in the old Coors commerical ” That’s a good thing not a bad thing.”

CO2isGood
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CO2isGood

Agreed, good reply!
It was Cal generalization regarding RINOs, and not voting for Romney that I found to be dubious, logically speaking.
Even though I agree a hundred percent that Romney was a poor candidate, we could have won this last election if not for a strategy that plays right into the Lefts hands, and despite the fact that we would have been saddled with a RINO, Romney would have been 99.9% better than what we have now.

12grace
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12grace

I think millions of Americans from both parties are sick of the corruption from the two parties and would welcome an appropriate third party candidate

aposematic
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aposematic

Whether or not the D would be the greater Liberal over Boehner is definitely debatable. Would have to see who the D is first.

CO2isGood
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CO2isGood

Well, on a strategic individual case basis I could agree with voting for a democrat over a very harmful RINO candidate, and Boehner does fall into that category.
Specifically, conservatives have enough of a buffer in the house that one less republican will not be a problem, and if having a democrat take Boehners seat would open up the leadership position for a better leader, then I would say go for it, and already have in other discussions on this forum.
….as a general rule I would follow Buckleys dictum, “vote for the most conservative electable candidate.”

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Any random leftist freshman Dem would be better than a backstabbing, spineless man like Boehner sitting in the Speaker’s chair.

The man must be removed from power at all costs.

12grace
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12grace

How bout third party, if we ever get a fair vote again, that is..

K-Bob
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K-Bob

You are not alone.

We’ll take back the Congress again in 2014. We can definitely afford to give his seat to a Dem if that’s what it takes to get him out of the Speaker’s chair. And clearly we MUST get him out of that position.

It’s being talked about in many places as a real plan.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

By the way, the main reason the GOPe’s poll numbers went down after the shutdown is because you lost your base almost in it’s entirety, stupid azz.

Your base (conservatives) abandoned you, because just like you always do, you folded, and fell apart, like a non-brawny, soggy, paper towel. In other words, you abandoned us first…again!

You unrooted, weeping willow. It’s long past time, you were hewn and strewn.

deTocqueville1
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deTocqueville1

Yes they betrayed Cruz and Lee and the base.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Those in the Senate were the main culprits there. Now Mitch McTurkeyneck says he’s going to vote against this budget agreement.

Well isn’t that the McSpecial of the week?

Tollthis
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Tollthis

He’s up for re-ellection. Too little, too late. This RINO will be primaryed out if the people of Kentucky have any sense at all.

factsobill
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factsobill

That’s Mitch’s MO ! It’s hard to miss this pattern of of traitorous behavior on McConnell’s part! Cruz 2016!

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I hadn’t really noticed the wattle before.

Or is it a goiter?

Rshill7
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Rshill7

I read about it from The Heritage Foundation. I also heard Ryan himself explain it…twice.

publius
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publius

Yup. Ryan is the leaker. Send him to bed with no supper, Mr. Screamer, uh, Speaker.

klaffner
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klaffner

So far, I am thinking we should hold our fire on this. I do get the emails from conservative groups. At times it is way to obvious that the ‘so called’ organization is pandering in the worst way for a donation. We do have a democratic senate. We do not want another shut down. I don’t care for Boehner’s impolitic comments, but I am inclined to let’s let this one go for now.

deTocqueville1
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deTocqueville1

Hold fire on what, an increase in spending and taxes (fees) now and a fantasy deal in nine and ten years out?

klaffner
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klaffner

I am saying hold the budget deal is good enough for now. It is suicide to force another shut down. I do think various Tea Party organizations have taken on payroll and expenses and they have to fund the beast. I think that, as a result, they pull the trigger too quickly on fund raising. So I think Boehner has a point on that front. But… he painted with way to broad a brush. I am ok with an elected official who chooses to disagree with the Tea Party on a particular policy position. But I despise it when they attack the tea party as having unscrupulous or insincere motives.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

No one outside of the DC Beltway cares about the “shutdown” debate.

Besides, not a one of those Progressive Republicans had the spine to place the shutdown squarely on barack’s clear refusal to negotiate.

klaffner
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klaffner

We can’t deny that it was the Tea party caucus that forced the idea of defunding ObamaCare into the budget process. What absolutely kills me is how McBoehner and such are talking about it now. They should be saying: Ya know. We were right to try and defund ObamaCare. Obama should have listened to us. Instead, they continue to bash the congressmen and senators who, as a matter of principle, tried to get it done.

EchoMike
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EchoMike

“I’m as conservative as anyone around this place.” Now I don’t know the Speaker, so maybe he is as conservative as anyone around that place. However, being “conservative” isn’t enough Mr Boehner. You have to be a conservative who is willing to fight the Dems, and educate the American people, and quite frankly, you and your party leadership have done an absolutely piss poor job. The fact that he keeps repeating the liberal line that the Republicans shut the govt down shows how unfit for the job this man is. If those guys didn’t want to stand with Ted on the floor during his filibuster that’s fine, but at least be willing to hold his coat while he goes bare knuckles with our opponents. The Tea Party as a whole needs to come together, and develop talking points, agendas, and plans to counter not just the left, but the establishment… Read more »

Crassus
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Crassus

Conservative my ass. Weepy Moyer is a nothing waiting for Obummer and the Dems to throw him some scraps from the table.

timerunnersc
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timerunnersc

Boehner sounds like a democrat. When your a failure find someone to blame to deflect facts that by your actions your a cowardly RINO.

Longiron
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Longiron

Until an Opposition Party comes about just bend over and quit bitching. Does anyone think Boehner, Cantor,,McCarthy are Conservatives or McConnell, Graham, Alexander, Collins ?

12grace
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12grace

I like the Constitution party.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

Boehner IS the face of the enemy. He’s only half a step below Obama on the B.S. meter. He is completely worthless!!!

KenInIL
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KenInIL

If the deal were 10 times as big $230B over 10 yrs instead of $23, it would still be ROUND-OFF Error. If it were 1000x as big, it would be a baby step in the right direction!!

Lives4Freedom
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Lives4Freedom

Fiscally, the country is bleeding out….the left wants to give us morphine, and Boehner thinks that putting a band-aid on a lacerated artery is a step in the right direction?!

GaltLine
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GaltLine

Can’t recall Paul Ryan ever advocated for the elimination of any government department or agency. He’s BIG government and needs to be primaried along with Boehner and McConnell.

deTocqueville1
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deTocqueville1

Precisely.

12grace
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12grace

What happened to Ryan? It seemed he went from being a Republican to a Communist.

GaltLine
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GaltLine

In 1776, would Paul Ryan be on our side or a Tory? His present statements and actions tend toward the latter. As for Speaker Boehner he repeatedly needs reminded he would be minority leader if it weren’t for the Tea Party. He is a poster boy Tory of the 21st century.

MJS
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MJS

DUUUUHHHHH Boehner, ever hear of leaks?! They did see this POS budget squeal and promptly REJECTED IT!

aznative
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aznative

Resign boehner.

Amjean
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Amjean

I pulled this off of commentary on Hot Air:

“The bill includes language from the Senate Democrats’ budget to void a budget “point of order” against replacing the sequester cuts with tax increases.

The process is quite complicated, but in practice it grants Harry Reid the authority to send tax increases to the House with a bare majority, rather than the 60 vote threshold that would be required under the point of order.”

This is outrageous! Paul Ryan snarked at Rubio that he should read the
bill prior to commenting. Well, he should hope no one reads the bill if it
contains stuff like this! /LOL What are these idiots thinking?! Never mind
answering; I think we know that the only thinking they do is on how to
increase their power base and line their pockets with our tax dollars!

Wigglesworth
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Marridge
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Marridge

They don’t need our votes apparently.

ladyjk
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ladyjk

And this is why so many long time Republicans are fed up. Get rid of Boehner and then may be the donations will again flow into the party. For me I’ll stick to contributing to the real conservatives one candidate at a time. Cry baby Boehner, what a loser, what a poor excuse for a leader.

Crassus
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Crassus

Getting rid of Weepy most likely means that Eric Cantor will become the next Speaker. If anything, Cantor is a bigger dirtbag. He’s smarter than Weepy which makes him more dangerous.

ladyjk
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ladyjk

Yes, Cantor would be worse. You need to look at what his wife has for a job–that’s revealing. He is a real Washington insider. I don’t think Cantor would get the votes though as there have been others who would take up the challenge for the position and if they voted Boehner out they surely wouldn’t be elstupido enough to vote for Cantor.

Carmen P
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Carmen P

@Scoop – just saw your update. RE: Levin’s comments last night: Wonder if he’ll name names tonight after this latest outburst. Boehner needs to be put in his place. I think it’s time for Conservatives to pick up the gauntlet he’s thrown.

12grace
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12grace

Boehner threw us under the bus and when the time comes to get him and others on his team out of office. But, we cannot vote for a Dem as we already know that the Dems have been taken over by the Fascists.

Does anyone on this blog know one decent Constitution lovin, Dem in office now?

leel
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leel

OHIO ….. Can you share with us any hope that this guy has a conservative candidate willing to UNSEAT him??????????…he is a proven DISTRUSTING RINO.

Lynn Roland
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Lynn Roland

Meeting tonight:
http://westchesterbuzz.com/2013/12/11/meet-john-boehners-expected-opponents/

I am hoping for a good candidate; Boehner needs to go home and stay home.

trytothink
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trytothink

“What a freaking putz”
——————–^ lying

Laurel
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trytothink
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trytothink

Yeah, great article. We have to keep hammering away until we get all the old bull RINOs out of there.

rjp977
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rjp977

He’s a jerk.

New West
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New West

Wrong again, Boehner, it is you and your Cronie crooks who have lost all credibility!!!! You will realize this in 2014 when we take all you slimy liars out of office… Now hurry up cause you have another vacation coming up!!! Assholes

wodiej
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wodiej

Unfortunate.

notsofastthere
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notsofastthere

Boehner is sounding very much like Obama. Speeches with no integrity or substance. His first action is to always raise the white flag of surrender except when it comes to condemning conservatives.

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