Open Thread: GOP Debate on CBS Nov. 12, 2011 1:15 pmNov. 12, 2011 11:10 pm by The Right Scoop • 105 Comments FacebookTwitterEmail report this ad Consider this an open thread for the debate tonight. When I get the full debate, I will post it. — FacebookTwitterEmail report this ad Comment Policy: Please read our new comment policy before making a comment. In short, please be respectful of others and do not engage in personal attacks. Otherwise we will revoke your comment privileges. RELOAD DISQUS Anonymous I am sure the cowards will not touch this foreign policy issue with a ten foot pole. No surprise to TRS readers but……Hillary Clinton’s speech this week confirms: Obama Administration Promotes Islamist Regimes; Insists They are Moderate http://pjmedia.com/barryrubin/2011/11/08/it%E2%80%99s-official-obama-administration-promotes-islamist-regimes-insists-they-are-moderate/ Anonymous Thanks for the link, I cringe everytime Hillary opens her mouth, so it’s helpful to be notified when she says something catestrophically cringe-worthy. There is so much to be undone and repaired after 2012…….Let’s just pray we survive to effect the repairs. Daumin Franks This is what, debate #93? Daumin Franks I’m debated out. Let’s have some primaries, already. Anonymous The primary is two months away. Ugh! Another debate. Anonymous This is going to be a good platform to ask the candidates what they would do about the Iranian Nuclear threat. It is going to be an interesting forum. Anonymous The only person onstage that can and will stand out, for his enormous knowledge in foreign policy, is Rick Santorum. But at the other hand of the spectrum, stands…. RuPaul! Anonymous This will be the best debate yet. Looking forward to the showing up of Obama’s foreign policy for what it is: A disgrace, pure and simple. Not looking forward to Ron Paul talking silliness again and showing himself up for the Islamist sympathiser he is. Sad really. Apart from that he would have been a seriously viable candidate. Till that age when all need study war no more… Ladies and Gentlemen, Generals, Admirals and Chiefs of Staff, lets get ready to rumble!!! Anonymous I think Santorum’s best moment was putting Paul in his place during a debate over the summer — I think he told him about Iran “this isn’t Iceland we’re talking about here!” I fondly remember Rudy putting Paul in his place in 2008, saying usually he hears this garbage from the left and demands an apology from Paul. Who will embarrass Ron “let’s offer friendship not sanctions” Paul tonight??? Anonymous When Israel attacked a nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981, almost the entire U.S. Congress voted to condemn the act. Ron Paul was one of the few dissenters: he voted against the condemnation and in favor of Israel’s right to self-determination. He also is against foreign aid, which we give to Israels enemies. Ron Paul is someone who stands on his convictions, and is a reliable candidate. I know what Paul would do as President, hes not just another talking points candidate. Jeff Song Nobody put Dr. Paul in his place. What will put all the war mongers in place is when Russia and China put the US in it’s place after the US goes down because the biggest threats – the deficit and destruction of the dollar. No ones been listening. The US enemies are laughing as the US is bogged down in it’s many wars. Iran will most likely be the last war that will bring down the US. China and Russia will help to make sure this is the case. Anonymous Hasn’t Huntsman been voted off the island yet? The odd thing is that although he has never polled above 1 or 2%, I’ve never heard a talking head suggest that he doesn’t have a chance. Herman Cain is leading or tied in all the major polls and I still hear the media elite say that he doesn’t have a chance. Herman also has, by far, the highest positive intensity and, by far, the lowest unfavorable scores. This is even after the brutal assault over the past two weeks. Isn’t it time that the media started telling the truth? Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx Steven They won’t because it’s their job to pick our candidate for us. So that’s what they are doing. We are suppose to not even consider Cain. They have determined that Cain is unacceptable and so there. My question is to conservatives: Is it We The People of the United States or We The Sheeple of the Political Establishments? The political establishments work hand and glove with the media. The media finds out who the party’s favorite and then they go to work to destroy everyone else. And it’s not just Cain. They’ll do it to Newt, as they did it to Bachmann and Perry. I am just asking at what point will conservatives band together and get behind a true conservative leader and win an election? We did some of that in 2010, but we still allowed the media and the GOP Establishment to pick off some our nominees like Joe Miller and Christine O’Donnell. We can’t let them nominate Romney! And then if we accomplish that, we can’t let them sabotage our conservative nominee. If we can do those two things, we will win in a landslide next year. To me the best ticket is Cain-Newt or Cain-DeMint or Cain-some other conservative. Cain at the top is an earthquake. Cain at the top will get people’s attention. Cain at the top will definitely change Washington. Cain at the top will change our politics in a way Obama only good dream he can do. Cain is able! I stand with Cain because he is not a politician, a true outsider, and someone who has faced great odds and overcome. He went from the segregated South to the top of the corporate ladder. He went from stage 4 cancer to cancer free. He has beat the smears and is still smiling, singing, and loving life! America needs a leader to lift our spirits and get us back working. Cain can do it. Yes. We. Cain! Cain 2012. Anonymous Definitely Cain at the top of the ticket if running with Newt. 1. Scozzafavva 2. Global warming PSA with Princess Pelosi 3. past support of insurance mandates 4. supports ethanol subsidies 5. called Ryan’s plan “right wing social engineering” Newt is a great debater but too many have acted like this is the most important thing – who can talk and BS the best! Not enough people pay attention to Newt’s actual record, which as seen above has alot to be desired! Anonymous While I like to listen to Newt debate, I just don’t trust that he actually has Conservative principles. Just a few months ago he was dissing Paul Ryan’s economic plan. He then plummeted to the absolute bottom, his entire staff quit. Now, magically, he’s saying the right things & his #’s are improving. WHAT’S IN HIS HEART (if he has one)?!?! I don’t want someone who just says what’s politically expedient… Dan i think Newt did really well and he was the only one to stand up for the Christians being murdered in Egypt no one else talk about that and that is going on right now…Christians women are being rapped there houses burned down…so yeah i think his heart is in the right place… Anonymous Well put; my thoughts EXACTLY. One other conservative worth considering is Mike Pence. While I would support a ticket with Gingrich or Perry at the top, I don’t think that either have the ideas or skills to drive the dramatic changes that are needed in Washington to return the government back to the people. mike morrison Could not agree more, Steven…Cain is the ONLY one who can both get things done and VIOLENTLY shake the corrupt system up starting with ditching the IRS and its’ thugs. No more IRS, no more lobbying to screw with the tax code. I’m not voting for a guy/lady who can give a good speech, I’m voting for someone with great ideas with the guts to take on the Establishment. Romney is barely a republican and 100% Establishment. Romney is Obama-lite. Cain is new. The GOP doesn’t even know what to do with him except try and destroy him before they lose control. Hang on, Mr. Cain!!! PunditPawn I’ve had enough of the one minute answer thing, 30 second follow up, for sure. Anonymous That’s why last Saturday’s form with Cain and Newt was so great. We need more of that isntead of the 1 min and 30 sec response as you said. All it does is cheapen the debate so candidates can only put out punch lines and allows the moderators to try to frame/control the debate. Plus why too many people rely on these debates instead of looking at the actual records. I can’t stand that tool Frank Luntz and his focus groups. Those are the simple minded morons that are ruining this country — I’m a Cain supporter and I don’t like Perry but I’d still even take Perry over Romney. Yet after a debate a few months ago where Perry and Romney were going at it over illegal immigration and Perry kept interrupting the majority of tools in Luntz’s focus group all said they would vote for Romney over Perry due to the Perry’s “lack of decency”. Are we really that weak, that much of a PC culture?? So being polite is more important than being a disgusting RINO who signed Romneycare and has flipped flopped on almost every position in the history of politics?? Anonymous We do not need a second debate in three days! PunditPawn I think Palin should be the moderator. Daumin Franks The way things go, these quotes will probably show up on some lefty site as actual statements by Herman and Sarah. And believed, of course. Anonymous Let’s have some fun. What is the over/under on… 1. The number of times Herman Cain says 9-9-9. 2. The number of times Newt Gingrich makes fun of the media. 3. The number of times Rick Perry turns on the gaff-o-matic machine. 4. The number of times Michelle Bachmann appeals to single moms. 5. The number of times Rick Santorum gets “stressed.” 6. The number of times the audience goes to sleep when Jon Huntsman gets asked a question. 7. The number of times Mitt Romney flip flops from his 2008 campaign. 8. The number of times Ron Paul gets booed tonight. Since we’re on foreign policy, it could get ugly, folks. BS DTOM PS – Mr. Cain, this is by far your most important debate. If you can’t hang in the foreign policy debate, Newt’s gonna steal your votes. Anonymous That’s pretty funny stuff. What Cain needs to do is to stick to what he’s already been saying: That he believes in a strong national defense (unlike RuPaul). That he will be agressive in the war on terror. That he’ll defend Israel and won’t handcuff them. Cain said on Michael Savage the other day that he’ll seek to restore America’s standing in the world. Also, Cain has said he’ll listen to the generals on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq which is of the utmost importance. Daumin Franks Heh, you said it. Playing the drinking game for every time Cain mentions 9-9-9… could be quite devastating to your health. Which reminds me — Vodkapundit will probably blog this. Anonymous I used to want them to open up registration on hotair, now I could care less. Especially after seeing allahpundit jump on the Cain smears and pretend they’re credible. I’m sick of the RINO’s that run that place. Anonymous I hope that Herman Cain leaves his 999 at home tonight. It will not help with foreign policy. 🙁 Anonymous I think the only time Mr. Cain will reference 9-9-9, is when he states we must have a strong economy in order to have a strong military. Otherwise, I think he’ll stay focused. Anonymous Mitt is looking constipated, and frankly, annoyed to be at the debate. Perhaps because he’s surrounded by Conservatives. Anonymous To me , Mitt always looks like he’s on the verge of crying or blowing a gasket . I wonder if he’s on Prozac ? Liberty Tree Wow, you obviously are watching Mitt too closely. You find what you’re looking for, lucky for you, your guy Rick Perry wasn’t constipated, he’s just been throwing up all over himself since he entered the race. Anonymous LOL…..lets compare records. Mitt-0 Perry-WINNER Liberty Tree I think you’re missing the past 11 debates or so….If you include the previous debates, Perry went from negative 5 to: Rick Perry – 3, Romney 11 Anonymous OK, Newt just swung the weather vane! Backing Perry’s idea of starting each year with $0.00 in foreign aid for each country until they demonstrate their friendliness with the United States. Wow! People were probably wondering about Perry’s answer, then Newt steps up and lays down a $1T deposit toward the governor’s credibility. Perry better be sharing some of his campaign cash in gratitude for that one! Anonymous What happened to Ron Paul? He barely got one question when everybody got three! Ricardo Galvan That’s a good thing. Ron Paul is only 1/3rd a person. Dan that is so funny….mean… but really funny..almost misspelled FUNNY i was laughing so hard…. Anonymous Perry had a great, funny moment and has been handling himself very well. He touted his current Commander in Chief status Anonymous Does it bother anyone else the way Mitt looks longingly at whoever is answering the question? He always crosses his hands in front of him and tilts his head to the side and has the same expression on his face. He’s done it every debate. Nit pick, nit pick… I know. it just bugs me. Anonymous I see that too, he’s very condescending and I always think he feels those around him are stupid. Dan i noticed that too….maybe he is trying to levitate them off the stage…or maybe he watch the movie Scanners to many times…your guess is as good as mine…. Anonymous He’s aware of the camera angle…..and poses accordingly for the background shot. He’s got practice with the photo shoots. It does remind me of something I heard about Ronald Reagan. Because he was in the movies, he knew what he looked like from every angle. Consequently, he was able to posture himself to communicate even when he wasn’t talking. And when he was talking, he was potent in delivery. As they say, only part of communication is verbal. Anonymous He is plastic!! He is such beautiful plastic that he looks like a mannequin or a model…. As you are staring…. bam!! You just realize that he just briefly displayed a hint of condescension on his supposedly flawless face!! Not good! Not good! Anonymous Check out Drudge. At the moment, his big phony plastic face is staring longingly at Newt, frozen in time for all to cherish. Anonymous He looks like a cat staring at a bowl of milk!! Liberty Tree I think he’s the only one who cares enough what the others say, that he consistently shows respect to them by listening. I’ve noticed he does always respectfully look and listen to what others say. Thanks for pointing that out. No suspicion needed though, if others are speaking, do you look at the sky or something? Its natural to look at those who have the spotlight. I’m sure the whole audience is staring at the ones speaking as welll. David Boyes how come trhe feed keeps breaking up ??? is obama interfering ?? Dan its the Paul bots Stormwalker I heard the hour’s debate. Then I tried to go to cbsnewdsdotcom, and every mother’s sone, is twitting twaating, twitching, and so on, in such a large clusterBuck making the video hard to follow with three second interruptions all the time, like the old radio station sounded when you were crossing a bridge! This is 2011!! Where is your technology, CBS! Santorum sounded just like McGovern. Huntsman had as much to say on foreign policy, as did Hubert H. Humphrey! The CBS moderators did NOt have their act together. Romney had answers. Gingrich had answeres. Cain had answers. Perry had answers. Paul is not Presidential material. Bachmann tried. This was poorly constructed, coordinated, and electronically supplied! Whenever you tie all those “Twits” and “IMs” to playing a video, it overruns the circuitry. Anonymous I have to thank RS for having us covered on this debate. After the first hour, I checked CBS and got lost! Kuddos to RS, great job as always!! Dan i came right here to the TRS cause i knew it would be here or some one would have paid with their life….sorry i don’t know what came over me just then…must be Mittens staring in to the camera…again sorry…i’m going to go water board my self…maybe that will help….. Anonymous As long as you do not torture yourself!! I’m okay with that! 🙂 Dan just a few adjustments to the enhanced water boarding method and then we will be ok….just can’t figure out how to hold my head back while i poor the water…i think i got it now …i’ll use a spoon…that’s the ticket…. Anonymous Try a it ice cold….! Nothing but a cold shower to put your ideas back into place!! Dan that is a great idea …use ice cubes….thanks….i can see it now….”THIS JUST IN….a terrorist died today when a 50lb block of ice was used to water board him…details at 11″” Anonymous PERRY WINS! Liberty Tree Really?? Since this debate has been probably the only one he didn’t look like a complete and utter FOOL that it probably confused you that he won, since he did alot better than his other performance. When you’re 0 for 10 and then you finally make a basket in the hoop, it almost seems like WOW!!! Awesome, so i can see why you would think he won, but in reality he still lost the game because he’s 1 for 11 now. it was an okay performance. Anonymous When Bachman, Santorum, Rhu Paul, and Huntsman drop out/run out of cash you’ll be left with Cain, Romney, and Perry. That’s the race. Maybe Cain will make it, maybe not. He didn’t look to ready tonight. Newt is running for VP If you have a choice between Romney and Perry, you’ll best be sure that Palin, the Tea Party and conservatives in general will be solidly behind Perry. The race isn’t over yet. Remember the last nomination process and the people who were on the top didn’t win and those on the bottom, McCain, won. Its too early to tell. Liberty Tree I’m less sure that Perry will make it to the Last 3 finalists than you seem to be…, you’re doubting Cain, but he’s actually doing alot better than Perry. Cain has showed up all other debates, this is the first one he hasn’t, but on the other hand this is the first one Perry has showed up to since he entered the race, so i’m less worried about Cain making it than Perry to our finalists for the nominee. If it comes down to Perry or Romney, I’m going for Romney, i don’t base my vote based on what Sarah Palin thinks. I’m a tea party member, but tea party doesn’t mean far right, it’s just average ppl tired of big government, many have joined the tea party (Dems, independents, etc) not just far right people. Anonymous You have a fundamental misunderstanding of facts. What is “far right”? Why are you using the lefts language? We need a Constitutional Conservative = Conservative = Far Right. If you want to wimp out because you are scared of standing up for principals, that’s your call, I will not. Romney is the absolute WORST of all the candidates. If you are a tea party member, than you can’t possibly support Romney because he represents the exact opposite of what you allegedly stand for. I’m sorry friend, “not obama” is not an acceptable position, we need a principled Constitutional Conservative that believes in smaller government, less taxes, less regulation, a flat tax, 2nd Amendment rights, has shown leadership, etc, etc, etc. And THAT is NOT Mitt Romney. Calvin McWhorter Sheesh CBS…. dial-up doesn’t cut it #streamFAIL Anonymous I’m not sure who won the debate, but I know CBS lost. What amateurs! Dan they all win except that real old guy that wants us dead and whats his name on the left end there hunter man….. what ever….. Calvin McWhorter CBS trashes their opportunity to showcase a live debate. OWS wins! Anonymous Waow!! Perry won tonight!! He made an incredible comeback! Anonymous This Perry will win the nomination. Liberty Tree Really?? Comeback?? Since this debate has been probably the only one he didn’t look like a complete and utter FOOL that it probably confused you that he won, since he did alot better than his other performance. When you’re 0 for 10 and then you finally make a basket in the hoop, it almost seems like WOW!!! Awesome, so i can see why you would think he won, but in reality he still lost the game because he’s 1 for 11 now. it was an okay performance. Dan sorry but every time Paul talks its almost like he is ready to explode or something…….calm down Ron…your meds are on there way… Anonymous perry, newt and mitt did good. Anonymous Mitt did good? yawn Liberty Tree I agree all 3 did great!!, Perry still has a long way to go…i prayed and fasted for Perry that he would have at least ONE, at least ONE good debate for mercy’s sake. JW I know there are some Cain fans here, but I’m looking to win the election and not hand it over to the liberals. Please don’t get me wrong, I like Cain, but this isn’t his time. He did mediocre with our National Security. He’s wing’ng it as one would say. I’m surprised they didn’t asked any questions regarding our border, since that is part of our National Security. I’d say it’s either going to be Mitt or Newt. Ideology is not going to play into this election. David I agree, Cain seemed to struggle and wing it on a few of the questions. One thing I have noticed from Cain is that if he can’t answer with the 999 plan he doesn’t give a solid concrete answer and I think that problem is going to get worse for him and people are going to start demanding he starts responding with something other than 999. Anonymous 999 plan is the main reason I’m supporting him. His talking more about it to try to stay on message. The media is going to be critical with his debate I’m not listening. This plan will be an economic explosion! Sales is what drives the economy and bonuses is what motivates sales. What u think is going to happen when bonuses is tax the same as a low rate instead of the top tax rate. Economic explosion. What is going to happen when more people are willing to work overtime without their overtime pay being tax at the top tax rate. Economic explosion baby! It will take Herman to be caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy to look for another candidate. Its Herman or bust for me! Anonymous Win? Win what?! Romney best the polls. Romney wins Obama wins! Herman Cain is the only candidate with who can relate to more to our needs because of his strong private sector experience. He knows more about the devastation of a government regulation can do to a small business. All the others are a bunch of government beruacrats. They are going to do more to benefit government. Newt sounds great but if u listen to what he is saying instead of the way he handles himself he is for more government controls. For example ethanol subsides is just going to keep gas prices high Why does he want to control the energy markets? Anonymous Article written by Herman Cain North Star Writers Group September 1, 2008 Economic Growth Surges, but Democrats Ignore the Truth Again On August 28, the Associated Press reported the latest Commerce Department data showing that the economy grew faster than previously thought in the April-June 2008 quarter. Gross domestic product (GDP) grew at 3.3 percent, exceeding both the initial estimate and economists’ expectations. As a reminder, we still have not had a recession since 2001, using the standard definition of a recession as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. But don’t tell the Democrats and the mainstream media. You might disrupt their imaginary recession. http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc126.htm Imaginary rcession? Anonymous What republican or radio talkshow was not trying comeback all the democrat media economic scare job to try to get the markets to tank and they did. Remember the price of gas shot up to $4.50 per gallon than after president gets into office the price went down. I will not be surprise if oil price goes to $2 per gallon to save his sorry ass. Anonymous Are you claiming Cain intentionally lied in that article or do you admit Cain was incorrect about the imaginary recession? An honorable person would use the truth to combat the democrat media. Cain doesn’t know as much as he or you thinks. I respect your right to support Cain, but I won’t vote for him. Anonymous You obviously did not read what I said. I don’t want to repeat myself so read it again! Anonymous I’ve read it several times and all I see is you trying to defend someone that had no clue about the recession or wasn’t telling the truth. You can try to deflect the issue by bringing up the gasoline prices, but it doesn’t change the fact that Cain was incorrect in his article. Anonymous IF that is true, then we will loose to obama. We need a constitutional conservative, and that’s not Mitt Liberty Tree Perry can’t even win the nomination for the Republicans..i think you have to win us over first before you can with the general against obama. I had high hopes for Perry, but since he’s been in, he’s turned me off. Half the battle is communicating our principles, hence Ronald Reagan was called “The Great Communicator”. Perry by far in this race has showed himself to be “The Worse Communicator”! Thats with all seriousness. DetroitS I love how some are excited Perry did “well” tonight. That performance was average at best. I wish he would just go back to Tx and do his job. Stop wasting money, time & resources. Anonymous Amen! Anonymous Its all about the record my friend. obama is always trying to run away from his, and romney is always trying to change it. Perry’s record in TX, his personal unchanged convictions, his grounding in faith, and his LEADERSHIP are what make him the best choice. When people get down to Romney or Perry, they will choose Perry. DJY If it’s all about records, how is it that Perry with that stellar record has substantially dropped in the polls since the first week he announced his candidacy? He was leading in all the polls during that first week, wasn’t he? sooo…what happened? Those darn debates…you know, where you actually have to articulate your ideas and debate out your policies to be. His delivery is still weak and it’s clear he hasn’t taken the time to prepare for them. Thank goodness it’s looking like Perry will not make it to the general. Anonymous That’s right, the debates. Perry has a fire lit under his rear end. Romney will not be the nominee, I will vote for whomever is AS LONG AS ITS NOT ROMNEY. Perry is still my guy and your other candidates still have to raise money, and it’s still early. DJY Not it’s not still early…his performance, almost two months after his candidacy, is still weak. Go ahead and support him. Hopefully, you’ll be in the minority. Sorry, but I’d like it if we can fire Obama in 2012. Perry is not the guy to do it. Gave him a chance and if he can’t win against GOP candidates. He won’t be able to against Obama. It’s reality. Anonymous Perry is weak. He’s not all he’s cracked up to be. He not doing well because he’s used to preaching to the choir. He’s a snake. He’s gone back on his word many times here in Texas and if it weren’t for informed citizens in my state we would be North Mexico. He’s full of sh#%. Anonymous LOL…that’s a good one Anonymous Perry 2012 gotta go…. off to donate to the Perry campaign! Anonymous Man!!! The whole premise of the “one-minute-allowed” to answer each question was “enhanced interrogation technique”. I hated it, each time Scott Kelly opened his mouth and said “your time is up” and “you’re in time”. I was not sure if he was acquiescing to their answers or just plain content that the candidate made it exactly to the one minute mark. That kind torture is insufferable! Anonymous It really kind of ticked me off when they brought up the “water boarding” thing…. yet again. When I was growing up I almost drowned twice, but obviously I survived, and there was no doctor standing by to monitor me like they do the terrorists. I was scared to death, but when I ran up to my mom crying, she said, you’re OK now, so get over it and stop crying. Guess you’d better become a better swimmer. Now go play. I stopped crying, and went on the play with friends and became better at swimming. When did we become such a nation of wimps????? Maybe I’m just old and grumpy, I don’t know. Anonymous I don’t really know who won tonight, and think that we need more one-on-one like the Cain/ Gingrich we had last week. Most of the candidates have most things correctly spoken in the sound bites, I’d like to see more details from each one as they are not given the time to expound on their theories. Foreign policy is so much more than 60 seconds and 30 seconds can ever hope to be for an intelligible answer. This weeks developments alone are reason enough for more thought than can be expressed in this format for debate. Liberty Tree Cain isn’t ready, he had NO IDEA what he was talking about! Anonymous Yeah, Right! Believe what u will! Anonymous For those that are putting down Mr. Cain, I think he did a good job with the questions asked of him. He took a few seconds after the question to gather his thoughts before responding but I think that was a good thing. Actually, I thought they all did really well given the horrible format. But I must say, I don’t think I could ever agree with Ron Paul on foreign policy. TriciaNC Thank you for the debate feed! Liberty Tree It seemed like he had no idea on almost every question though. And his answers were way too general, thats usually a sign he doesn’t know any specifics. Cain can go into specifics with his 999 plan because he knows it, but foreign policy? He can’t do it with the same passion as his tax policy because its not in him. Anonymous I’m not sure if your reply was meant for me, but I will respond. You are correct in some regard, but there is a reason he is not making promises. He does not have access to crucial Intel & military commanders. Would you rather have someone like BO who promised to shut down Gitmo (not going to happen), etc.? He has stated clearly he will consult with those with secure intel that he does not have before he makes a decision. I think that is a smart approach IMHO. But he has made it clear that we will ID our enemies and support our allies. Can’t see anything wrong with that. Liberty Tree I think you’re missing the past 11 debates or so….If you include the previous debates, Perry went from negative 5 to: Rick Perry – 3, Romney 11. Vorlath The backup is private. Know anywhere I can watch it? Anonymous To LibertyTree: “I agree all 3 did great!!, Perry still has a long way to go…i prayed and fasted for Perry that he would have at least ONE, at least ONE good debate for mercy’s sake.” I am quoting you from an earlier post. Guess what, champ?? This just happened today where “he won that ONE good debate for mercy’s sake”!! Anonymous Cain seemed to flub this one. I didn’t mind at all him answering some of the questions with I will consult generals and such because none of these candidates have a clue what’s really going on. They don’t get daily briefs like they would as president. Cain just came off as surprised by the questions he was given. Romney and Newt took this one home. Santorum and Bachmann are annoying as hell. Huntsman was a diplomat so that should take him out of the running pronto. Romney and Newt won.