By The Right Scoop


A great moment from Geraldo’s show last night where Charles Woods, a man of high integrity, told the president that he totally forgives him, yet he also encouraged the president to come forward and now be a coward about what really happened:

DAILY CALLER – “My question of the president would be this: Your Honor, I respect your office as president. But if this attack on American citizens, on American soil, happened 2,000 miles away from Washington, D.C. — say in Los Angeles or in Seattle — would you have waited seven hours before you sent the first airplane? Would you have waited seven hours until the attack was over? Would you have waited a couple of days until you had all of the videos and all the information before you responded in a responsible military way?”

Host Geraldo Rivera pressed Woods on his argument and suggested that he was “angry” at the loss of his son. That wasn’t the case, Woods explained.

“First of all, I am not angry at all,” Woods said. “In fact, Mr. President, if I had the opportunity of speaking to you face to face, and I would really love to, I would say this: ‘Mr. President, I respect your office. However, if you are responsible for the death of my son, I totally forgive you.’”

“This is about honor, courage and about love for America. And remember this, Mr. President: My son and the others died heroes and it’s better to die the death of a hero than it is to live the life of a coward. If you are responsible for the death of my son, I forgive you, I love you. I also love America.”

Watch the full video:

Also, see this post by Hotair that shows how it was believed to be Al Qaeda early on before the president had changed his story to the video and he crowd story.

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  • E. Lee Zimmerman

    BOOM! There it is!

  • http://twitter.com/WinstonCN Winston Smith

    Obama is a coward

    • GiantM

      Perfect!

      Short, sweet, and to the point.

      You certainly don’t have the “Garrulous Disease”….lol

  • Susitna

    I have heard Obama is changing his slogan from “Forward” to “Coward” as it is more appropriate.

    • Ford Prefect

      Instead of chanting yes we can the new chant is “Run Away Run Away.”

  • 1217Chic

    The apple dosen’t fall far from the tree….Tyrone Woods is a hero like his dad.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    Mr. Woods is a much better man about losing his son than I would be!!!!! My hat is off to him for his beliefs and his generous spirit. I grieve for his loss and wish him and his family peace in the days, months, and the years ahead.

    • Patriot077

      Mr. Wood is a fine, fine man. I think it is exceptional pride in his son’s accomplishments and character that permit him to be charitable and at peace knowing that his boy died doing what he knew he needed to do. As he said in another interview, his son grew up knowing he was able to provide protection to others less capable than he. That would provide some comfort.

      Still, I would not be in a forgiving frame of mind knowing that there has been nothing but deceit coming from the White House.

  • Susitna

    Like father, so the son. Charles Woods and Tyrone Woods are two American Heroes.
    God bless the Woods’ Family.

  • johnos2112

    I hope the Republicans grow a sack and go after Obama during his lame duck session. If the facts are there then put him behind bars!

    • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

      I hope they give him a Christmas present he won’t ever forget. A 6×9 cell breaking big rocks into little rocks for all of his seditious language, anti-American behavior, and incompetence.

  • jrt1031

    He is continuing with the brave acts of his son by coming out of his comfort zone to help others to see how corrupts the administration is that called the shots on his sons life. Sad

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Geraldo is an a$$,dear leader is a traitorous coward, Mr. Woods is incredibly gracious, more so that I, and well said Sir. God Bless you and your family.

    • badbadlibs

      You’ve got the description of geraldo exactly right.
      And the rest too.

  • Rshill7

    I’m out of words folks.

    Gotta sign out for awhile :-(…

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      (((())))s mybear!!! Psalm 42:5 ♥

    • GiantM

      Chin up sister, God is in control. ;-)

      • Rshill7

        Ok, that made me smile with surprise. It might just be my time of the month, not to mention the fact that I should’ve removed this damn petticoat before putting on these overalls.

        • badbadlibs

          Now that’s better! :) and a hearty LOL!

    • poljunkie

      Hang in there Rs. We’ll be here waiting for you.

      edit :speilling.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KYTC7EGQASGOTQYPY2KPC4XCZY Don

    To refuse help to your men who are under attack is despicable. Where is the outrage coming from the military leaders who were ordered to stand down while their friends were being murdered by overwhelming force. This makes a mockery of the the military by-law that they “leave no one behind.” They not only did not respond to their requests for help, but watched it on HD to know exactly how it was going to end. The seals were true heroes in every sense of the word. Obama and his cowardy sycophants proved they are unfit to lead a military or our country. The mainstream media is sickening by their refusal to seek the truth. Brave men died while cowards lied and Obama is the biggest liar and coward of them all.

    • MAXXOVERDRIVE

      Don…You are absolutely right…There are no words to describe my contempt for this creature.

  • denbren52

    The Coward-in-Chief will now wait and see what the jobs numbers show before deciding to delay them because of Sandy or release them with fanfare.

    • SoLongSong

      The thing is, doesn’t he manipulate them? Maybe it’s only because he hired enough gov. workers last time around for the number to improve to 7.8%, which didn’t seem at all real…

      I no longer trust the numbers. Seems like he could just make them 7.6%, post it, and call it a day.

    • wodiej

      I heard on Gerri Willis that the unemployment ticked up.

      • MAXXOVERDRIVE

        But with Obama and his administration its not in their DNA to tell the truth… Its like the tale of the frog & the alligator… The alligator tells the frog, sure I’ll be glad to give you a ride to the other side of the pond, as I’m going that way myself… Once reaching the other side of the pond the Jackal asks the alligator, what happened to the frog… The alligator answers, oh, I ate the frog… But, why? says the Jackal. I couldn’t help it, he says. Its in my nature…

    • poljunkie

      Yep: Good report for Obama, release before election, bad report wait until wed of next week.
      a$$ hats : the lot of them.

      The thing is, if Romney wins, Obama will keep the jobs number down until about Dec/ Jan and then let the uneployment number skyrocket back up to 12%.

      Romney will have his hands full- just to get a handle on unemployment. He will have to immediately take off some EPA regulations if he can ( executive order?) This is to impact industries such as coal, oil, natural gas, shale, and to help maximixe domestic energy production.

      ….and then either repeal Obama care ( again exectuive order?) or apply a waiver to all 50 states? with in his first few days. This will let the small business people breathe a small sigh of relief and help them to think about hiring …..because the large cost of health care will be greatly reduced.

      This will immediately help the jobs market, and first few reports, and of note…help get Americans back to work.

      Next he can get things going on the Pipepine. More immediate jobs. Both in the industry and ancillary… such as catering/short term housing, dry cleaning….etc.

      He should assemble a panel to GET rid of the Unions: this on its face sounds like it is not a big deal and is cliche’ but even in the short term, aside from the entire PENSION issue, it is huge. In instances such as right to work, and required union dues it will save lots of money. Protecting the workers, but also protecting businesses from local unions is a big deal, and can shed a lot of light on hiring practices.

      The jobs number is a huge number and unfortunately the new normal. Combined with our staggering weak housing values and outrageous inflation, and cost of living —we def need a change and someone in charge.

      • denbren52

        If Romney wins, small businesses will begin to spend the money they are keeping on the sidelines, afraid of what Obama will do in a 2nd term. It will be like a dam broke! The economy is just waiting for a leader instead of a Communist tyrant.

  • sjmom

    Mr. Woods is a honorable man whose son is a hero and who should be awarded medals for his valor.

    RS, Thanks for the Hot Air post. Once again the administration has been proven to have lied. Just digging themselves deeper into the hole.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KYTC7EGQASGOTQYPY2KPC4XCZY Don

    Because of the corruption of the mainstream media and the lies and deceptions of Obama and his sycophants, the only way we will ever know the truth is to defeat Obama and his thugs and force the truth to come out. What happened at Benghazi should never happen again to our military who are serving with their lives for our country. If Obama is elected the RINOs will keep their tails between the legs and we will never know if the lives of heroes could have been saved.

  • PFFV

    Treasonous Cowards! Obama, his Thug Administration and our Corrupt Disgusting National Media that Covers Up The Truth! They all need to be put in prison or maybe put to death for their crimes against those they are supposed to be protecting, US, The American People! I am boiling over with hatred for all of the above!

  • colliemum

    Charles Woods – the heroic father of a Hero.

    It takes incredibly strong faith to speak as Charles Woods does, but do not believe for a moment that he didn’t struggle in deep pain and grief, and didn’t work hard praying for many days, perhaps weeks, before he can stand and speak as he does.

    My heart goes out to him and all his family.

    As for you-know-who: liars are cowards, and cowards are liars.
    That’s all.

  • wodiej

    He shouldn’t have talked to Geraldo. He’s a flaming liberal. Second, obama doesn’t give a rip about America or his son. And personally speaking, I don’t respect the office while obama occupies it.

    This man is too kind. I am angrier than that because my brother stole something from my house. If my son had been killed and I thought it was dereliction of duty, I would be ready to take someone’s head off.

    • Wisewoman2

      Hi Wodiej. Knew you from noquarter. I’m glad he talked to Geraldo. That is another avenue to get out the message especially with Hispanic voters who probably watch his show and a few liberals to boot. I think its great and I hope he goes on every MSM show from now until the election. Let them accuse him of playing politics with this issue especially with his christian response and watch as it backfires. Of course the liberal LSM will not let him on their shows. You can take that to the bank.

    • MAXXOVERDRIVE

      I don’t know whether its Karma or Justice from on high… I know Obama is slated to suffer for his acts here on earth. Before, he’s damned to the fire’s of Hell.

  • LIBERTYUSA

    …Obama is finished because he is RUNNING with the D E V I L !”

  • Orangeone

    Little O/T but wanted to let Scoopers know that I did a shout out for @TheRightScoop on Twitter to WWWife whose husband was hit with 6 bullets at Ft Hood and is not getting answers from Congress. She tweeted today for America to remember 11/05/09. I invited her to join us here as we keep Ft. Hood alive in our posts. She favorited my invitation so we may soon be joined by many Ft. Hood victims. Let’s watch for and welcome them!

  • WordsFailMe

    First time I saw this its was on gatewaypundit, October 26, 2012, now…Coup or only a rumor of a coup

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/10/rogue-u-s-general-arrested-for-activating-special-forces-teams-ignoring-libya-stand-down-order-2487316.html

    If you didn’t see Judge Jeannie’s opening statement on her Saturday show with Ty Woods Fathers and siblings, see it here. FOX needs to showcase this lady and take O’Rielly off one day a week

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/10/the-video-that-will-sink-obamas-campaign-for-good-2487430.html

  • John3_3

    Obama is a little boy in a man’s body. He is a coward and has no integrity. He is in way over his head.

    • p m

      He’s like that kid in “The Omen”.

      • GiantM

        He’s more like the Roman Emperor “Commodus in the 2000 movie Gladiator.

        He has no respect from amongst most of the current military leadership today.

  • AtlEsquire1973

    Wow, that is powerful stuff. Ty Wood’s Dad has more power then I do, as I could not be that kind. I would be out of my mind. But it appears out of 330 million people (about 150 million who could vote actually vote- but may antway- it appears that it comes down to Ohio. PLEASE REPUBLICANS, PEOPLE WHO WANT CHANGE, PEOPLE WHO WANT A COMPETANT President, it becomes up to you patriots in NH, Iowa, WI, Penn, Nevada. Please don’t vote union over country. Please. As there is no union without country.

  • Orangeone

    Not sure if you have seen new Women United PAC ad on #Benghazi so here it is. This must go viral!

  • crosshr

    for the courage of Mr Woods son, Ty, I’m lost for word (undescribable) for Mr. Wood’s courage and forgiving heart of this awful dishonest admin and of the pants-on-fire chief, he’s spiritual with great depth.
    from an angle of embracing Christian values and morals, Obama and most of his admin members as put by Mr. Woods, would rather live a life of cowards by lying their way through life. I know, they are walking rodden bunch
    Only a fool like heraldo would vote for Obama for another term. There , I said it !
    ( I sure wanna slap heraldo’s mustache and drain stupid mukos out from his brain, whada waste of human being )

  • PhillyCon

    I don’t get it… doesn’t he have the right to be angry about his son? Why would it be a bad thing if he was angry about his son?

  • conservative61

    Everything written about Obama here is true. However, I note one point missing. Obama, forget his lies, is a Muslim, and Islamist heart and soul. He let four Americans die because he didn’t want to upset his brother Islamists. Lying to the American people was an acceptable route given how the MSM has and would cover for his sorry a$$. For the past four years, likely more, Obama has done everything he can to further a worldwide Islamist take over and the establishment of Sharia law.

  • stage9

    OH BULL! Geraldo is such a pawn! We can have a QRF geared up and ready within 10 minutes or less! This is such a load of Bull! QRF teams are geared PRECISELY for this kind of situation!

  • poljunkie

    Wow Geraldo- you are such a tool.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I miss Steven… he would say Geraldo’s such a wanker.

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Just saw this on facebook- please someone tell me this isn’t true. I knew he’d been relieved of duty, but never heard he was arrested too! http://www.officialteapartyusa.com/pt/Obama-Has-US-General-Arrested-for-Activating-Special-Forces-Teams-in-Bengazy-10.29.2012/discussion.htm

    • Nukeman60

      Perhaps Obama has learned some new techniques usually reserved for the likes of Kim Jong-Un.

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-24/officials-executed-for-drinking-during-kim-jong-il-mourning/4332326

      It appears Panetta and Dempsey are trying to make it look like a routine command switch, when, in reality, the smell wafts all the way across the nation.

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/28/general-losing-his-job-over-benghazi/

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        For once this week Nukefriend, I’m going to shut up and remain a lady. ((()))s

        • Nukeman60

          Yeah, there are some troubling things arising lately. But whether you shut up about them or not or speak your mind, you are always a lady.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            And you’re always my sweet nukefriend.

      • WordsFailMe

        This story is growing legs and teeth

    • westernhunter

      He was replaced by Gen. David Rodriguez according to reports dtd earlier this month.
      However I saw and remarked on RS that there was a news rpt dtd 09/19/12 that said Rodriguez “was chosen to take command”. I saved the Oct reports but not the Sept one and I went back to find it and could not. Here is one Oct report. Sure wish I could find Sept one.

      http://www.stripes.com/news/navy/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group-1.194780

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Thank you westernhunter… I did see that article yesterday. This is a different one though, not General Ham, so two of them have been relieved of duty and replaced. I don’t know if this one is because of Benghazi, but the timing is interesting. The case of Gen. Ham though, definitly stinks.

    • GiantM

      Gen Ham’s action speak volumes!!! And I mean major volumes. Being prior military, there is no greater honor than to meet or even be in the presence of the President.

      Clearly that feeling recently has not rested in the heart of Gen. Ham for Obama or his elite upper leaders.

      A clear example of the “Emperor having no clothes”.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        So many of you excellent men are here my Giantbrother, and I try to remember all of you who served to say thank you. I hope I’ve said it long before now, but just in case I missed you, thank you so much for your service. God Bless you brother.

        • GiantM

          Thank you sis. Here’s what I offered the men in my area this year in honor of their service for all of us: http://www.crossworksme.com/

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            Is that you in the photo? THat’s a wonderful service GiantBrother!! Thank you :-)

            • GiantM

              That is. Don’t hesitate to shot me an email anytime either.

              • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                I will Giantbrother! Very nice to “meet” you :-)

    • WordsFailMe

      Here’s a focus on the removal of Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette from his command of the powerful Carrier Strike Group Three (CSG-3) currently located in the Middle East.

      http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2012/10/obama-fires-top-admiral-as-coup-plot-fears-grows-2466106.html

      Apparently the Admiral heard the calls for help and was moving his forces to assist in the rleiefe of Benghazi, relief that the Cretin in Chief prevented.

      Are there enough Seals, CIA Operatives,Army, Navy,Generals and Admirals yet to storm the place and effect an arrest?

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Thank you Words! I’ve been posting these on facebook as I get them.
        This is horrible.

        • WordsFailMe

          Mrs WFM gave the link to me couple of says ago, I posted it, then wondered if I’d been had by a rumor.

          But Now I see the story expanding, growing legs and fangs by the hour, picking up momentum and it does’t matter if the story is 100% factual or not. It is plausible. It is the only story that makes sense. It’s the only story about American fighting men, not a lazy, yellow, dope smoking, liberal Affirmative Action College Graduate whose parentage can be settled by a coin flip, that rings true.

          The kind of institutionalized cowardice and stupidity and lame cover up attempts would be more reminiscent of a Panther raid on a Denny’s gone wrong because there were 2 Dennys on the same street.

          Frankly, I would prefer to see the Obama Administration, the man, the family and the memory, destroyed by a rumor or a lie than anything else. Justice, karma, whatever it is. Ignominy is a lonely, lonely place to be interred.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            Well said as usual my Wordyfriend. I can’t say much to that except well said. And God Bless Mrs Words.

      • stage9

        Both of those men deserve the nation’s highest honors!

      • badbadlibs

        Are there enough Seals, CIA Operatives,Army, Navy,Generals and Admirals yet to storm the place and effect an arrest?

        Just the thought of such an occurance makes my heart sing.

        • WordsFailMe

          Missed your response badbad.

          As thousands of muslim “heroes” now enjoying arab virgins in muz heaven can now attest, it’s not always the number of American patriots you face that cansend you for the “dirt nap,” but rather the training, dedication and fearlessness in any such group.

          There is not one veteran alive that believes that, if Obama gets re-elected, there will be a tomorrow for the Untied States. If there is any effort to be made it will be made today and it will be a total effort and there will be no mercy, no prisoners and no escape. All it will take is the wrong word from the colossally stupid Obama to set it off.

          Just heard from Mike the Marine that a whole bunch of, that is many, former Marines are going to Washington DC to celebrate the US Marine Birthday on Nov 10 at the Marines Memorial on the green. If Obama is re-elected, I will join them.

          I don’t know if you’ve met any active duty Marines but if you have, picture what former Marines are like having had years to see watch how the progressives, communists, racists, liberals and Democrats have squandered their sacrifices. I don’t even want to talk about how that feels.

          • badbadlibs

            You, Mike the Marine and all others like you two have my utmost respect and admiration. God be with you men….always.

    • badbadlibs

      Of course they would have to “arrest” him, he might be so bold as to tell all.
      How else can they shut him up?
      This is the worst administration in the history of the universe.
      obama is the most vicious, vile, person to ever be POTUS.
      I hold him in contempt and hold those who voted for him in even more contempt.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        me too badbad. I also hold our congress and coward so called speaker in contempt for not indicting this freaking dictator 2 years ago. I sent him a scathing letter today, which I doubt nothing will come of it, but I had to send it anyway, seeing as I can’t legally do anything else. :-(

    • FreeManWalking

      I agree ABC this is unbelievable…

      I like these sign’s they are much more appropriate than the ones with forward.

      https://twitter.com/deanmeek/statuses/262970134388428800

      http://www.nationalgunforum.com/political-news-discussions/32702-coward.html

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Agreed my Freebrother. Much more appropriate. God Bless you FreeManWalking.

  • poljunkie

    As I said previously Mr Woods is a gracious man, a forgiving man—a better man than me.

    We can see where his son got all of his best traits.

    • GiantM

      Noooo question!

      And his son Tyrone is the kind of young man that would get the shirt off my back even though I never met him. It is men like this among us whom my respect for them brings tears to my eyes because of the honor they carry not only for their fellow brother in arms, but for the G_D blessed nation we live in.

      He is the epitome of the bible verse:

      John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

  • Nukeman60

    I have the utmost respect for the office of the President of the United States. However, I have absolutely no respect for anyone who usurps that office and desecrates it with actions that could be deemed unamerican at the very least and, most certainly, possibly treasonous at worst.

    Charles Woods is an American hero himself, and it’s no wonder his boy turned out to be a great hero in his own right. This sort of character is hard to instill in someone, but when it is, it shines through. My sympathies go out to him not only for the loss of his son, but for what he had to endure being with Geraldo, that leftist scumbag idiot. To just assume Mr. Woods was angry at the President and that would be an excuse for what he was saying was disingenuous at best.

    After all that has come out so far, with more to follow, just accepting what one General had to say with no proof is congruent to helping the coverup. Mr. Woods and his family should have walked away from Rivera as fast as they could.

    • badbadlibs

      I would have walked away, after I slapped geraldo into next week. But, then I’m no Mr. Woods.

  • Mary_Linda

    That reporter is biased to Obama – you can FEEL it. He stressed often about his military source saying They could do Nothing; That’s the president impotent response because the president is hiding something and this reporter is blind to this president’s arrogance and cover-up! He’s a lefty trying to look balanced.

    • GiantM

      “He’s a lefty trying to look balanced”.

      Oh you mean…his life is a Merry-Go-Round!

      Well of course…lol.

  • DizzyMissL

    Mr. Woods–class act
    Geraldo–dolt

  • PVG

    Oh to have that man’s faith!! God has been glorified despite the godless coward in the wh.
    Our GOD truly is awesome!

  • MLCBLOG

    …..I used to just love General Petraeus but I guess his name sounds too much like Betrays Us because it’s finally happened. He has changed what he said and is now taking about a spontaneous Al Quaeda event. Yuk.

  • Jules1021

    We need Obama out of office. Please give what you can we are making a huge push because even Michigan is close now.. We can use a dollar if that is all you have, God bless.. If we cannot protect our Military from our Government how can our Military protect us ??? Stand for the truth and let’s get Romney elected and have the truth for this man and his family.. https://www.mittromney.com/donate/seven-in-seven/?sc=INTMAP003&utm_medium=email&utm_source=et&utm_content=link_body_Expand+the+Map&utm_campaign=1983592_259674_Mitt%2520Romney

  • chatterbox365

    I’m glad to see some of the families speaking out…they need to know what happened and so do the American people. I am ashamed we have a POS president and administration.. Romney may not have been our first choice, but we have to pull together and get Obama out. I’ll take a flipper over a traitor any day.

    I can’t stand Geraldo. Every time I see him on TV, I think about the time he got his nose broken back in 1988.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sara.otto.71 Sara Otto

      The other family members are speaking out… against Romney for politicizing this.

  • LiberalBoycotter

    Mr. Woods deserves to have Barry, look him in the face and tell him what really happened, but that will never be. Here is a man with a kind and wonderful soul, who will never be told the truth by Barry. I believe this is out in the blogasphere, and that the American people who know are outraged by what Barry did, and that the MSM, is protecting him!!!!!!

  • AtlEsquire1973

    I could not be that kind if it was my son who was murdered because of this president’s absolute failure of leadership. Love would not be the word I was using for the president. I’ll keep it to myself what words I would use, however I’m sure you can imagine.

  • bobemakk

    Mr. Woods, I pray for you and your family. Obama must go even though you forgive him for the death of your son. On 9/11 I worked for the FAA and GW Bush cleared the skies within 4 hours of every plane flying.

    Delayed reaction and holding back and blaming a video was the biggest lie in history. Romney for president.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sara.otto.71 Sara Otto

      Had Bush taken four hours to react to Benghazi, the outcome would have been the same. Also, there was a demonstration over the video throughout the entire region, including Benghazi… I watched it developing outside of the embassy for over an hour on television prior to the attacks. We can judge people for their mistakes, but we can not rewrite history to suit our narrative.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sara.otto.71 Sara Otto

    I sympathize with this man’s loss… as I sympathize with the tens of thousands who lost family members in the other tragic event that occurred on 9/11. Remember, the one that also came with advance warning and plenty of time to react after the first plan hit? My point is that it is easy to blame others in hindsight for not predicting the future accurately.