By The Right Scoop


Panetta is hitting back at Netanyahu over his demand for the US to set red lines on Iran:

TIMES OF ISRAEL – US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta added his voice to the chorus of American officials rebuffing Israel’s call for “red lines” on Iran, saying he did not want to see the US put in a corner.

“The fact is, look, presidents of the United States, prime ministers of Israel or any other country — leaders of these countries don’t have, you know, a bunch of little red lines that determine their decisions,” he told Foreign policy magazine in an interview published Friday night. …

“What [leaders] have are facts that are presented to them about what a country is up to, and then they weigh what kind of action is needed to be taken in order to deal with that situation,” he told the magazine. “I mean, that’s the real world. Red lines are kind of political arguments that are used to try to put people in a corner.”

Red lines would put the US in a corner? No you doofus, it would put Iran in a corner. That’s what red lines are designed to do. For Panetta to take this defensive posture and argue against red lines is to admit that the Obama administration isn’t serious about Iran and that they refuse to be held to any standard.

I mean, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Netanyahu is really saying that the Obama administration is all talk and no action, and by pushing them to set red lines he’s communicating to them that they need to take the Iranian nuclear threat seriously. And basically Panetta just confirmed that they aren’t really serious.

It looks like Netanyahu just outsmarted the Obama administration and exposed them.

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  • toongoon

    “What [leaders] have are facts that are presented to them about what a country is up to, and then they weigh what kind of action is needed to be taken in order to deal with that situation,” he told the magazine.

    Leon Pinheada

    But if that leader doesn’t attend his security briefings what facts does he know? How does he follow up to know what actions to take?

    • poljunkie

      “Leon Pinheada”

      Good one.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      LOL! Leon Pinheada. O’Reilly would be proud.

      • elixelx

        Love the innuendo, which is, as you know, an italian suppository!

    • PAWatcher

      Great name Toon! IMO the whole world would be a lot better off if obama ditched all the executive jobs and went on permanent vacation…… playing golf, surfing, biking (with helmet), ’cause he sure can not govern!
      Won’t it be great when this whole lot is out of DC?

    • keyesforpres

      Doh!

    • NYGino

      Check and mate.

    • FreeManWalking

      LOL “Pinheada

      The you hit the Pin on the heada with the FAILED security briefings attendance too…

      Good One Toon!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      Exactly! Obama doesn’t attend those briefing because Obama has no intention of stopping Iran. He never did. Look he thinks everyone or no one should nuclear weapons so his intent is obvious here. Besides, leftards are stupid and naive. they think Iran wouldn’t dare to nuke Israel. Remember Madeline Albright to this day still claims that Kim Jong Il lied to her to get the nuclear materials.

      • bobemakk

        Laurel, we all know that because he breaks his back bowing to our enemies. Obama must go. The politically uneducated are the ones that scare me. They will vote for Obama because they want to stay home, not work, and take advantage of the social programs (Obama bucks), and US taxpayers bear the burden for these lazy trashy people. Romney/Paul MUST win.

  • Jerseygalnny

    Great post! RS calls Panetta a DOOFUS!!!!! I love it! Updating my comment on FR
    http://fundamentalrefounding.ning.com/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000679899592 John Bohler

    Its confirmed, Obama isn’t going to do anything to Iran under any circumstances. Israel stands alone….

    Netanyahu, kick Irans @$$

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      They’re not quite alone. G*d has Israel’s back.

  • sjmom

    I didn’t know marijuana was legal in DC because the entire administration is smoking something which has affected their brain cells. As my girlfriend’s mother would have said to Panetta: “you don’t have the sense God gave a goose!”

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    How dare this pion treat Prime Minister Netenyahu as if he was a green, still wet behind the ears newbie!!!

    Pionetta says, “I mean, that’s the real world. Red lines are kind of political arguments that are used to try to put people in a corner…” NO YOU Suck up, idiotic sycophant, the REAL WORLD exists where the Israelis are surrounded by millions of square miles of evil people who only exist to try and anihilate the State of Israel!!! You @^$(# arrrrggghh! I am so sick of you people! I’m sick of having to bite my tongue lest a string of angry words escape my mouth. REALITY pionetta is that your dear leader is a marxist, muslim loving scumbag who refuses to help Israel in their greatest need, and continues to pander, to speak out of both sides of his mouth for the American Jewish vote- but would leave Israel burning in a nuclear baked heap if allowed. This crapweasle, who bows to every foreign dictator, treats Israeli’s Prime Minister with mockery and disgust- knowing full well that Iran is daily getting closer to those bomb goals, but because he’s a freaking coward, and because his handlers are telling him what to do, won’t do a damned thing to help.

    You make me sick you vile piece of scum!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Just another glaring example among the many of the complete a$$-wipery of El Presidente’s merry band of useless idiots. I thought LeoPan specialized in military intelligence. Somewhere down the line, I think LeoPan slipped and fell, hitting his head and releasing most of the marbles he had. This guy has yet proven again how irrelevant he really is.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      By the way ABC, go ahead and vent all you want. Nothing that the current president we have and his fiendish horde have done deserve anything less.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Thanks Chris. It’s good to have a safe and friendly place to vent so much!! Thank you Scoop.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          No problem. :-)

    • Patriot077

      Trevor Loudon exposed Panetta’s history with communists going back to his years as a Congressman. Though I really like Toon’s new nic “Pinheada” his stance is less pinhead than the fact that he is perfectly comfortable with zero’s ideology.

      http://www.trevorloudon.com/2011/07/whittaker-chambers-alger-hiss-and-panettagate/

      • BS61

        HA! I posted the same thing above!

        • Patriot077

          No worries that I had already posted it, BS. I don’t always see prior posts myself and don’t care if others share info I’ve put out there. The more who see it the better.

      • BS61

        HA! I posted the same thing above!

    • BS61

      Trevor Loudon reported on Panetta’s socialist/communist connections awhile ago. I agree with your rant!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

    Congrats, LeoPan. You have solidified your status as D-Bag second to El Presidente. Plus you were just schooled by Bibi, just like he schooled your Dear Leader.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    Panetta is a “YES MAN”

    I can’t believe this POS is in charge of Defense

    What a bunch of corrupt idiots!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      I wonder if those in the Pentagon walk around with current face palms, knowing that they have to follow the asinine orders from El Presidente and LeoPan, no matter what happens. I also wonder if military advisers even bother advising them, since anything they say goes largely unheeded.

  • Maxsteele

    If you know Bibi’s personal history and family history with regards to military service as well as education then you would realize just how patronizing Leon Panetta and his master are to this amazing leader.
    While they bow and pander to the savages of the middle east who hang gays from cranes, stone women for not covering their ankles they ostracize and patronize the Western worlds only true democratic nation anywhere from the horn of Africa to the caucusus.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Bibi makes El Presidente and LeoPan look like amateurs. Hell, he makes them look like less than amateurs. He makes them look like bumbling idiots.

      • NYGino

        Bumbling idiots. As good a description as I’ve heard.

  • tshtsh

    It is not painting you into a corner, pansy, it is showing us in whose corner you are.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Well said!

  • Sheya

    “The fact is, look, presidents of the United States, prime ministers of Israel or any other country — leaders of these countries don’t have, you know, a bunch of little red lines that determine their decisions,”

    YOU DOPE. We don’t need red lines to determine YOUR decision, we need the red lines to send a message to Iran to determine THEIR decision.

    Man, you would think that the secretary of defense would be a little smarter than me.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Furthermore, the only lines we can see when it comes to El Presidente and LeoPan among others, is the thick yellow line running down their backs.

  • RocklinConservative

    The fact that Obama has alienated Israel has put THEM in a corner which is, I’m absolutely certain, why Netanyahu went public with that statement.

    • PVG

      That’s my take too. Bibi’s too smart for these imbeciles.

  • justinquiring

    When was the last time an Italian lead a successful army?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Uhhhhh…Patton. Oh no, sorry. He kicked the Germans butts in Sicily, the soccer ball of Italy. Uh…Mark Clark. Oh damn, no he kicked both German and Italian butts in Italy. Uh…are we talking 20th and 21st centuries?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Here we go… http://countrystudies.us/ethiopia/19.htm . There had to be a successful Italian general during that time. I mean, Ethiopia was such a prize back then and they had such a powerful, modern army to pit against the Italians too.

    • NYGino

      SPQR, baby, SPQR

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

        Ah yes, Gino. Heh.

  • Watchman74

    “The fact is, look, presidents of the United States, prime ministers of Israel or any other country — leaders of these countries don’t have, you know, a bunch of little red lines that determine their decisions”

    So when Bush Jr gave Saddam Hussein 48 hours to step down or face war, that was not a red line?

  • MaxineCA

    I decided to read up on this a-hole. He is just another political hack. He only spent 2 years in the army from ’64 – ’66. Even Diane Feinstein (lib Sen. from CA) was even ticked off when they confirmed him to Dir. of CIA back in 2009.

    Here’s another good one for you:

    “He was sworn in on July 1, 2011. One of Panetta’s first major acts as Defense Secretary was to jointly certify with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff that the military was prepared to repeal “don’t ask, don’t tell”, triggering final repeal after 60 days.” As a side note, he promoted the “gay pride parades for military personnel.

    Isn’t that so freaking special, Iran is getting nukes, we have ROE’s that are resulting in our military personnel deaths, radical Islamists, MB causing havok …… the list could go on and on, and they do NOTHING.

    I’m sure he was pleased when they erased all mention of radical Islam from all training material.

    So glad they have their freaking priorities in order!!!!!!!!! Calling Allen West…….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Well at least Prez O had appointed a man that was more qualified than himself to head up the DoD.

      • aposematic

        330M other Americans more qualified than 0 to choose from and he picks Pinhead!

  • Ford Prefect

    I Leon Panetta representing The United States vote present. This is getting embarrassing when Canada shows more spine then the United States the world is in a lot of hurt.

  • Sober_Thinking

    The red line started when Obama turned his back on Israel.

    Pannetta said a very stupid thing here. Iran now has confirmation that America (under it’s current incompetent and impotent “leadership”) doesn’t have the backbone to stand up to them. This is going to embolden them and the rest of the ragheads into further attacks on American sovereignty and assets and Israel. How stupid can these people be in Washington?

    It’s like squirrels are running a bulldozer here…

  • MaxineCA

    Heads up guys….. I watched Judge Jeanine’s show earlier on FNC. She had a special called “Justice for America” with great guests. (Eric Stakelback, John Bolton, a guy from the Israel, and many more). It’s going to re-run in about 20 min. PST, but you might want to check your guide. It was a great show!

    She’s going to have another special tomorrow which will include Allen West.

    Just an FYI.

    • BS61

      Thanks I was wondering why I recorded it! Getting old here!

  • anyonebutbarry2012

    panetta is as bad as barry. who trusts what he says. again most corrupt administration.
    nov 6th hurry up, anyone who votes for barry has to have a IQ below 10.

  • jdbaird

    Where did Obama find this guy? In my experience military men and women are intelligent, strong, brave, noble… he’s none of these things.

  • http://twitter.com/WinstonCN Winston Smith

    obama is weak

  • Nukeman60

    No, Panetta, throwing Israel under the bus for promises from Iran that they won’t attack our positons over there when Israel attacks their Nuke sites is painting us in a corner. Are you that stupid?

    Sorry, retracted. The answer is self-explanatory.

  • Nukeman60

    No, Panetta, throwing Israel under the bus for promises from Iran that they won’t attack our positons over there when Israel attacks their Nuke sites is painting us in a corner. Are you that stupid?

    Sorry, retracted. The answer is self-explanatory.

  • 911Infidel

    What’s a matter Pinheadah. Your slip is showing again little girl.

    • conservative58

      ‘Your slip is showing again little girl.’

      Please don’t insult the ‘female’ gender. I’ll bet the majority of our conservative females here at TRS can do some major butt kicking!!

      :-)

      • 911Infidel

        A grown man with a slip on is complete mama’s boy. Its old school for… pardon my French….pu$$y.

        • conservative58

          911 – It wasn’t my intent to step on toes; rather I totally agree Panetta is a wimp.

          I was being sarcastic, in that most female conservatives here at TRS are stronger than this wuss!

          • 911Infidel

            No arguement here. I’ll take a God-fearing conservative woman over an impotent Pinheadah any day. Same goes for the Dempsey’s and Casey’s at Defense too. Damn sell-outs. I’m so sick of career officers who suck political peter in order to advance their careers. They can all go FOAD. And they can take O’Dumbo with them. Then lock Uncle Joe back in his relative’s attic.

  • Spartan4Palin

    My ‘red line’ was set with this incompetent bunch four years ago!!!!!

  • kong1967

    “Red lines would put the US in a corner? No you doofus, it would put Iran in a corner” — RS

    I agree with that as long as we have a strong leader that sticks to his guns. However, with weak-master in charge it would be a bluff and Mr. Dinnerjacket would call it in a heartbeat. Then it would be us that’s put in the corner. Solution? Get rid of the Carter twin….I mean, Obama. Put a stronger leader in.

    • conservative58

      Absolutely kong!

      Dear Leader and his sheeple followers need to understand this isn’t Hollywood role playing. This war on terrorism is real and we are all in danger!

      Obama belongs in Hollywood; not D.C.

      • kong1967

        Exactly, but I would argue that Obama belongs in Kenya. He can take (most of) Hollywood with him.

  • Yazz55

    Should say “Panetta, the antisemite”

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

      Probably left it off because it’s redundant. But should still say it so the Libtards will know too.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2LQVGLFOAWP7SGN37TCHKMUZ4 Michael

    We all know this Adm is not friend of Israel. This is clearly about the Jewish Vote…the fact that the Adm continues to defend Iran and against Bibi exposes them more and more. The fact is Obama does not want to defend Israel and he knows that if Israel attacks…He is the one in the corner. He wants to support Iran in his heart but the public image with many including the American Jews would cost him big support! So he is trying to bluff the Isrealis into doing nothing…Bibi is smart and he knows what he must do. It is clear to millions that Obama and Bibi do not get along and do not agree. Panetta can do nothing but TALK…Bibi is definitely setting his own plan and he needs to. His job is to protect Israel not bendover to thugs and terrorists like Obama.

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    The Obama administration doesn’t want any “red lines” because they would actually force them to DO something against Iran. And the last thing Obama wants to do is stand up to Iran over ANYTHING. Obama does NOT see Iran as a threat. He even said so in a speech in 2008. He considers Iran an insignificant threat and a problem that can be contained. So tell me Barry O, if Iran gets a nuclear bomb, are you willing to start living in Tel Aviv? I didn’t think so.

  • AlabamaPatriot2

    God forbid we actually set a goal for something. King Barry likes to be “fluid” in these conditions.

  • Pyrran

    Leon the Moron
    Yes Leon, you have red lines. You just don’t tell your pals in the media and they won’t blab it to the Iranians! Oh wait, Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran and I guess she would know about it and then she would tell her friends in Iran and then… Nevermind.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

    A red line was set a long time ago that had to be set and forced a decision:
    ===
    1939: Britain and France declare war on Germany
    Britain and France are at war with Germany following the invasion of Poland two days ago.

    At 1115 BST the Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, announced the British deadline for the withdrawal of German troops from Poland had expired.

    He said the British ambassador to Berlin had handed a final note to the German government this morning saying unless it announced plans to withdraw from Poland by 1100, a state of war would exist between the two countries.

    Mr Chamberlain continued: “I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this country is at war with Germany.”
    ===
    See, NObama, Panetta sometimes you have to put on your big boy pants and make some adult decisions!! Your calling of the red lines as “little red lines” tells us and the world, you don’t give a rats ass about whether Iran gets the nuke or if Israel is blown off the map of the world! No, it’s all about Dear Leader and his re-election campaign and to hell with the world, I get your message loud and clear!

    Now a message you’re going to get loud and clear is one sent to you on Nov 6th! Pack your bag pResident and get out of the People’s House! It’s time we had a President and not a pResident again! Romney and Ryan are on the way!!!

  • aposematic

    Yes, a corner where you might have to make some sort of decision about America’s future. Heaven forbid America’s rulling class of numbsculls would ever have to make any kind of decision…well I guess sitting on your hands while the World burns is some kind of a decision. Keep up the good work Obuma Admin.

  • Landscaper

    Dear Israel, you are on your own. Our president is busy raising money and playing golf. Fuel up the jets boys and get busy.

  • bjohnson55

    Obama is the poster child for a weak sister and the Islamists are showing the world exactly what a man child he really is. If all of this were to have happened during the Bush years the media would have been shoving it down Bush’s throat. The only thing the media has to drive their agenda of saving Obama this election cycle is an attempt to make Romney’s true statement about the apology from the administration about this so called film as inappropriate out to be something larger than the fact that there was no security at the embassies. All we hear on the Main stream media is comments about Romney’s statement, we hear nothing about the 48 hour warning prior to the attack or Marines not allowed to load their weapons with live rounds. Again if this were Bush all of that would be at the fore front and be headlines in every story. How can you reporters sleep at night, you are allowing this country to be destroyed by going along with crowd.

  • Pyrran

    Here’s the story bout Leon the Loser
    He’s a low down liberal schmoozer.
    Hidihidihidi hee
    Hidididididi hoo

  • elixelx

    Wasn’t it Barry-boy and Hillbilly who insisted on timelines and red lines on withdrawal from Iraq?
    Wasn’t it Barry-boy who gave a deadline for the closing of Gitmo so that it would no longer cause the Muslim world to hate America? and etc.etc.etc.
    I suppose that some deadlines are more accessible than others…

    Leon, some corners are near exits, others are blind corners…but I guess you’re much to smart to admit that..and of course Barry-boy told you to say that…

  • Conservator1

    When President Kennedy set a red line preventing the Soviet Union from placing nuclear weapons in Cuba, I wonder if Panetta would have stated that “Red lines are kind of political arguments that are used to try to put people in a corner?”

    Obviously, the Soviet Union was attempting to have the power to strike the US with nuclear warheads which was a direct threat to America. However, America and Israel are allies and we have treaties which have been interpreted that an attack on Israel is a direct attack of the United States. What a pathetic comment from the SOD to prop-up a Presidents failure to lead.

  • semihardrock

    YES…Panetta is correct. If Sharia law and/or Muslim Brotherhood becomes the World Standard as they are fighting for….We want to be a part of that “society” for the “global harmony” and “peace”….WHILE simultaneously stealing your money….

    This IS the new American ideology from within….

  • TJinNJ

    Panetta is a COMMIE…Do some research…

    From Trevor Loudon:
    In 1983, then Congressman, Leon Panetta, placed a tribute in the Congressional Record to two of his Santa Cruz, California constituents.

    The couple, Hugh DeLacy and his wife Dorothy Baskin DeLacy, both had long histories with the Communist Party USA and were very active in the Santa Cruz “progressive” movement that had helped nurture Congressman Panetta’s career.

    Phrases like “social justice” and “dark forces of McCarthyism” rolled from Rep. Panetta’s pen, in a piece that would not have been out of place in the Communist Party’s Peoples Daily World.

    The DeLacy’s were not merely Panetta’ s constituents – they were close personal friends. Hugh DeLacy was also a longtime correspondent with whom Panetta regularly discussed defense and foreign policy issues.

    Read entire article here:
    http://www.trevorloudon.com/2011/06/panetta-report-1-leon-panetta-paid-tribute-to-two-longtime-communists/

  • MiketheMarine

    Hey Penetta, you jackass, that is the point. Is there or isn’t there a point that we feel strongly enough about not exceeding that we are willing to use force? It IS the only thing those barbarians understand. This administration is too afraid to do anything of import.