By The Right Scoop


Mark Levin went back and forth with Paul Ryan on his radio show regarding the push for immigration reform, asking tough questions along the way and at one point even telling Paul Ryan that he doesn’t ‘buy it for a second.’ It runs for 22 minutes and is longer than his normal interviews because it spanned 2 segments.

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  • Judges718

    Disgusting display of dissembling, prevaricating, and straw men.  SECURE THE BORDER FIRST!

    • strangernfiction

      Judges718 I didn’t listen, but you must be correct.

      • Judges718

        strangernfiction Judges718  
        Do your blood pressure a favor, and don’t listen.

        • strangernfiction

          Judges718 strangernfiction Don’t plan to. :)

        • Judges718

          strangernfiction Judges718 
          I’m sorry I did.  
          It is incredibly depressing to hear an alleged “Conservative” argue for this nation destroying steaming pile of excrement that is this bill.

  • Micawber

    Mark did a great job.  Here’s what I just don’t get.  If we can’t get the Fed Govt. to enforce current laws, why on earth do we think they’ll enforce the provisions in this legislation.  Apparently, the Executive branch can decide what or what not to enforce.  Now this has been given the imprimatur of the Supreme Court.  And the idea that failure to meet certain metrics will have teeth is laughable.  The language requirement is an example:  who is going to check on this?  What does “proficient” mean?  Even if failure was identified, does anyone really believe that action will be taken?  LOL.

    • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

      Micawber  Bingo! They don’t enforce the laws now- at least not on those streaming in from the south, so no, the border will remain unchanged, billions still given to law breakers through social programs and plenty of democrat voters.

  • MaroonRepublic

    What if these illegals don’t come out of so called shadows? Who will deport them, who will deny them welfare, medical and school. Nobody and nothing will change.

  • pushtheredbutton

    Its sad to listen to. It really is. I hate RINOs. But I still can’t help pitying Ryan’s patheticness in this interview. And Levin, I give him credit for conducting this interview the way he did. He obviously has a soft spot for Ryan and Rubio but still, he let all his doubts show forth and genuinely interrogated Ryan as well as he could.

    Bottom line. If the bill passes the House, say goodbye to America folks. Forget the IRS march. There needs to be irruption into the halls of Congress over this immigration bill.

    I knew Ryan was a RINO. But I am shocked at what he is doing now. This is beyon being a RINO. This is now Benedict Arnold-ism.

  • PJRodman

    I do agree that the system has failed to make it easier for those coming here to contribute and work to get through- as he says- a wider gate with a taller fence.  We would catch more of them on the way in and have a wee bit more control.  But seriously, the 30 million already here?  They’ll stay right where they are.  Why would they volunteer for the hassle?  And they won’t be denied anything….that’s crap.  The hospitals can’t turn them down.  Who’s going to start finding all of them on welfare already?  Too many questions left unanswered.

  • comingapart

    Would we have 11 million illegals if in the last 27 years there were no jobs in the USA for illegals? Would we even be having a discussion about illegal immigrants?
    If you hire an illegal, 2 warnings and the 3rd time the fine is 3% of gross revenue! That will get businesses attention! 
    Walmart um, um  3% of gross revenue…

  • Susanb958

    Can they run Obama through E-verify?

  • DizzyMissL

    He forgot to ask them about the fact that they would all vote for Democrats.

  • StevenValdez

    You know what, i listened to 13 minutes of this, and it’s hard to hear anything he’s saying about the bill when Mark Levin started off the interview saying the Senate bill would only stop 25% illegal immigration, that is unacceptable to me and just ends the discussion.

  • Proudhispanicconservative

    Ughhh I want to listen to this, but im gonna wait until I am at home and there is no dangerous objects around me.

  • biloximike

    Why in the world do we waste all this time and money on this garbage.  Simply change the law to read that anyone who employees an illegal alien (person or company) becomes 100% liable for all the health care costs of that employee and his family the entire time they remain in the US
    Do this and can you imagine anyone hiring them?  Then our border agents can concentrate on the bad guys since no one else will want to come in if they cannot work.  COMMON SENSE CONGRESS

  • Stehekin912

    Throughout the interview I kept thinking….Paul Ryan, *fairydust*fairydust *fairydust ***  Keep dreamin’ brother.

  • Conservative Bug

    We currently have laws that aren’t enforced. Enforce current laws and protect the borders and monitor visas entering and leaving. Then, and only then might we think about a massive bill created by the left to promote their agenda. Agenda 21.
    Kudos to Levin!!!!!!

  • DeborahClemence

    They are tracking everyone’s phone numbers, emails, etc….. WHY can’t they locate the illegal aliens in America right now?  You can be sure they have phones!

    • wboyd1641

      DeborahClemence They illegally vote Democrat…

    • K-Bob

      DeborahClemence Obamaphones

  • wboyd1641

    Who determines if you’re proficient in English. Most of the people that are born here can’t speak properly. It’s sad.

    • Stehekin912

      Remember the mini-series Shogun?  Whatever you learn will be enough.

  • 1vote

    The “system ” has not failed.  They do not want to secure our border.  We should demand that our border be secured.  Why does that have to be tied to “comprehensive reform”.  This is so stupid.   Ryan might know numbers, but, he ain’t that smart.

    • wallwatchman

      You’re right 1vote! How do they know the “system” doesn’t work! They never enforce it!! We have an immigration policy! Haven’t we had one since the beginning of the country?! Enforce it! If these gov hacks are having a problem with the policy we have, then work the kinks out of it! What’s the problem?! The wait to long, paperwork and red tape make it a mess, etc?! Fine, then work with the one we have! A new bill is crazy!!
      No, we the peple know what your problem is with our current policy. It’s the fact we have one!! You represent THIS country, not all the others! Stop working for citizens from other places and do your job here!! Ugh!

  • kong1967

    I don’t get the notion of putting them on probation and if they don’t meet the requirements then they can be deported.  They can be deported now!  The issue is the border.  Secure the border then go about deporting the illegals, period.  They broke the law, period.  Don’t give them a path to citizenship.  Send them back to Mexico and make them do it like every other law abiding immigrant.  All this bill is going to do is legalize a large portion of them and make the pool of illegals to deport smaller.  They still won’t deport them, because they can already do that and they don’t.
    Secure the border and stop the bleeding.

  • gnawbone

    You have to ask; “Why”
    Why doesn’t the house defund Obamacare? Why do Republicans run on Conservative principles during an election year but screw us during the off years? Why did Roberts dream up the tax angle for the left to get their wet dream? There are a ton of why’s that I’d like to hear the answers to but we are being played – I just don’t know why. The easy, obvious answers are that they are all in on “it” or the IRS/FBI/NSA has them in extreme blackmail potential …. I don’t know – wish I did. But it is getting a little hard to ignore that once we seem to get some people pointed in the right direction that they turn on us …..

    • wallwatchman

      Great points gnawbone! I’ve been thinking the same thing for awhile now. What in the heck is going on?! Like you said, either Obama is holding some pretty scary stuff over these folks…or we’ve been had!

      • BearNJ

        wallwatchman Its one of the great mystery’s of life. When a  Democrat goes to the polls and
        vote they get a big government, higher tax and liberal anti
        Constitutional Representative. When a conservative votes for a
        Republican who says he’s for limited government, private property
        rights and the rule of law we don’t get what we expect. We get
        gutless Rinos who sell out our country and party for what they
        perceive is their interest. At this point its beyond the pale.

  • JangoBear

    I listened to this live.  Ryan sounds like Rubio’s twin.  “Come out of the shadows…our immigration system is broken…we can’t round them up…”  Ryan the traitor actually said that Wisconsin dairy needs the illegals because they can’t find workers to do the job!  Millions of Americans are out of work and would gladly work these jobs but they must come with decent wages not slave labor wages.  
    It was especially disgusting listening to him become a used car salesman trying to sell a broken-down-five- car-accidents lemon of a car to the rest of us.

    • BearNJ

      JangoBear Right on fellow Bear. I don’t like people “coming out of the shadows” to annul by vote, get benefits they don’t deseve and take jobs from citizens. I will not vote for any Senator who votes for Amnesty.

    • OliviaHT

      JangoBear 
      We can’t round them up? No? Then the chorus for punishing law breakers who game the welfare system is not loud enough. We have to fix that.

  • HillaryShackley

    whew I am now the proud owner of … what was he selling- it made my head hurt.  Manuel Jose Martinez would probably still be a probationary status holder today with this new law. I don’t buy it for 4 seconds, thanks Levin this was beautiful. Keep them on the HOT seat, dear god what are they thinking here?

  • ralph3327

    Totally  securing our 1000 mile border with Mexico is a practical Impossibility-it would take an agent every 100 yards on the ground to do it. Republicans will use this excuse to continue to stymie needed immigration reform

    • K-Bob

      ralph3327 Total red herring.  No one expects a perfect fence.  We just want a secured border.  Pretending we expect zero incursions is an excuse to continue the drive for amnesty.
      We don’t have an immigration problem, we have an illegal alien problem.  Until that’s fixed, congress has no legitimate reason to mess with immigration law.

      • ralph3327

        K-Bob ralph3327 What  constitutes a “secured border” in your view? 75%, 90%. It will always b e something to hide behind when opposing serious immigration reform

        • K-Bob

          ralph3327 K-Bob We have real problems in this country.  Immigration is so far down the list that it may as well be somewhere around Postal Worker Dog Bite Awareness.
          A secured border is a border that is being monitored, patrolled, includes appropriate barriers, tunnel detection tests, surveillance equipment and all necessary transport gear, as well as armed incursion response units.  All staffed appropriately, and all necessary infrastructure completed.
          We don’t have that.  We have very little of that.  Until we have most of that, we do not have a secure border. “serious immigration reform” can wait the ten years or so necessary to complete the much higher priority task of gaining control of our illegal alien population problem.
          Helpful hint: illegal aliens are not “immigrants.”

    • Judges718

      ralph3327 
       ¿Que?

    • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

      ralph3327 You ever hear of that wall that’s in China?

      • BearNJ

        AmericanborninCanada ralph3327 Israel who faced a different threat ended sucide bombers after they built a wall. I’m tried of the GOP lies and excuses for being afraid of their own shadows.

        • PapaLouie

          BearNJ AmericanborninCanada ralph3327 
          When Israel’s wall isn’t perfectly secure, somebody dies. So they make sure it’s as secure as possible. There’s no reason our larger country couldn’t do a similar job if we had the will to do so.

      • ralph3327

        AmericanborninCanada ralph3327 It’s a tourist attraction. Ever hear of wire cutters getting tnru a wire fence?

        • Judges718

          ralph3327 AmericanborninCanada  
          Ever hear of reinforced cement, guard towers, razor wire, underground sensors, ditches, double layered fences with patrol roads between the two layers.
          http://kateinpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/gaza.jpg

        • PapaLouie

          Judges718 ralph3327 AmericanborninCanada 
          And drones watching overhead. We might as well put them to good use.

        • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

          ralph3327 AmericanborninCanada You’re a riot. It may be tourist attraction now, but it was the longest solidly defended wall on the face of the planet. Just goes to show that it IS possible to build a defensible border huh

        • ralph3327

          Judges718 ralph3327 AmericanborninCanada What an unfriendly view for people coming to the U.S. not to mention the view from our side. And in the end, determined comers will find a way.

  • odin147

    Let me get this straight I break the law entering illegally then I wait for the govt. to get it’s act together to become legal ?, instead of being deported. My question is what does it take to get deported in this country.

    • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

      odin147 “What does it take to get deported in this country?”  Coming here begging for asylum so you can homeschool your children because if you get sent back to Germany, your children will be taken away.

      • OliviaHT

        AmericanborninCanada odin147 
        Best comment of the year, by far.

        • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

          OliviaHT wow. Thank you Olivia ;-)

    • jazzee

      odin147 nothing not even felonies or misdemeanors   ……how cute eh?

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    The system has failed. The system is broken. We need immigration reform. We must pass this so we can know what’s in it. We must fix a broken immigration system… These pos politicians who keep on spewing the same talking points might want to inform the USCIS that the system is broken as they process my citizenship. They seem to be unaware of these claims.

    • K-Bob

      AmericanborninCanada It’s almost shocking they don’t screw up and throw obamacare talking points into their stupid litany of Democrat Importation Reform talking points.

      • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

        K-Bob AmericanborninCanada give ‘em time K-Bob. I’m sure they’ve got a committee going right now to come up with a way ;-)

        • K-Bob

          AmericanborninCanada K-Bob
          Amnesty for doctors!

        • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

          K-Bob YAY!

  • K-Bob

    Rubio/Ryan 2016!
    …Says no conservative, ever again.

  • slowsigma

    Get wise people… This is about MONEY.  Not enough money coming into the Treasury.  Ryan failed to even make a tiny change to the outrageous spending growth in D.C.  So, the RINO’s and Dems are like “we don’t have the courage to tell the citizens NO on entitlements, so we have to come up with more money”…  Please see “Europe” for further example….

    • OliviaHT

      slowsigma 
      And the fact of the matter is that the only “more money” involved in this transaction will be the transfer of 2% of GDP from labor to capital, capital being Zuckerberg, Gates, Koch, and a whole assortment of big business vultures.
      The average Joe? The doctor who sutures your wounds? Your accountant, the grocery-store manager, the hair stylist, the organic local farmer? What the hell difference do they make? They’re the little people who have to pay for this massive transfer of wealth by way of increased taxes to fund the strain on schools, prisons, law enforcement, health care. I’ll make you a bet: require the law to assess the total cost for these “new comers” of welfare, schools, prisons, law enforcement, and health care on the Zuckerbergs, Gates, Kochs, et al, and see what happens. They DEMAND this law. Let them pay for it.

  • http://www.therightscoop.com/ MadJack

    My fix for this.  First deport every damn last illegal and while that is going on build a double wall fence 30 feet high with machine gun towers every 200 yards.  Signs on the wall that say anyone scaling wall will be shot dead once they top the wall.  Then your body will be thrown back over wall for the mehicans buzzards to feast on.  A few illegals whacked and thrown back will send the message that should have been sent years and years ago.  

    We either need the Israelis or Vladimir Putin to come over here and take care of this illegal alien problem.

    • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

      MadJack I’ll go with the walls and Israelis.

    • ralph3327

      MadJack I can’t help but feel just a touch of racism in many of the comments here but yours reeks of it.

      • JD Olson

        ralph3327 MadJack Yes ralph3327, expecting people to abide by the laws is racist. The Left uses this argument to subvert voter laws too. I can’t help but feel just a touch disdain for those immigrants who are law abiding.

  • DavidMalechek

    Bull. Always easier to come in illegally and ask forgiveness than come through the front door, no matter how easy it is.

  • clubgitmo

    Excellent interview on both ends. In conclusion I say Paul Ryan is completely full of crap and a blowhard but sounds good saying it.

    • jazzee

      clubgitmo you made me laugh

      • clubgitmo

        jazzee clubgitmo We have to all laugh at the stuff these politicians both say and do.

  • ralph3327

    It’s a tourist attraction. Mexicans have tunneled under, cut thru wired fences and boated round the end to get here. Millions have been here for years working and paying taxes with no return. Millions of kids know only America as their country. Humane immigration policy long overdue.

    • John_Frank

      ralph3327Really?
      How is it humane to slap those in the face who have immigrated to America legally?
      We need to secure our southern border and ensure enforcement of the laws internally  first.
      Otherwise, all we will be doing is repeating past mistakes.
      Then we can have a discussion about what to do with those who came here illegally.
      In the meantime, under existing law, if an illegal alien has been here for more than five years, has kept the peace, is not a burden on the State, and is not a security risk, ordinarily an immigration judge will stay a deportation order.
      As to the proposed senate bill:
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/145700635/Letter-from-Sens-Cruz-Sessions-Lee-Grassley-Voicing-Concerns-with-S-744
      P.S. Comprehensive immigration reform is way down the list of priorities for Americans.

    • PapaLouie

      ralph3327 
      Why do we owe anything to those who broke our laws to come here? I didn’t kidnap them or invite them to come here, did you? And nobody is preventing them from going home where they can come out of the shadows and participate fully in the affairs of their home country, if that’s what’s important to them. That being said, if the borders can be secured to prevent large influxes of illegals in the future, I would gladly consider being compassionate to those illegal immigrants who are here. But the border has to be secured first. I just can’t figure out why our politicians don’t want to do it.

    • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

      ralph3327 If you owned a business and a family came in, just hung around not necessarily doing anything damaging, but took your attention away from paying customers and refused to leave, what would you do? Illegals cost us BILLIONS every year in food/housing/education/aid/medical care/job services- yet less than 5 percent of those BILLIONS is recouped through taxes. In fact, many of those who claim taxes, can claim as many dependents as they want, and no one checks.  These people break the laws and are rewarded?!  Slap me for coming here the legal way.

  • mrcombi

    I want my 22 minutes back…

  • http://nation.foxnews.com/ sallyjohanna

    I come here to get my daily dose of Levin…we are so simpatico.  I also have a high respect for Paul Ryan…he wears me out, Ryan is one hard working and very intelligent Conservative and one of our best…Levin seemed to have the same respect for Ryan.
    I completely understood what Ryan was imparting and his sincerity ….our trust has been so abused it is hard to believe it is the long awaited solution and will be carried out to the letter of the law and work.  For those of us that want to stop massive influx of illegals…prove it by securing our border tighter than a drum now!

  • PapaLouie

    My problem with Ryan is that he sounded too much like a Democrat. If you point out to Democrats that there are already gun laws on the books that aren’t being enforced, they will still insist that new laws will solve the problem. When Levin pointed out to Ryan that there are immigration laws on the books that aren’t being enforced, Ryan responded that his new immigration law would fix all that. The Border fence and E-verify have been mandated by law in the past, but if those laws have been ignored for years, why should I believe a new law make will make any difference?
    What I want to know is what Ryan and his gang are going to do when Obama decides to enforce the amnesty section of the immigration bill and ignore everything else. I don’t believe they will do anything. Congress won’t even use it’s power of the purse to persuade Obama to keep his past agreements or to enforce the very laws he signs. If they are unwilling to hold Obama’s feet to the fire, why should we believe that they’re going to get him to enforce this new law? I don’t believe they will deport those who fail the background check. I don’t believe they will take welfare and food stamps away from those illegals who are already getting them or even take away their Obama phone. So why do these Republicans, who I used to respect, feel the need to be like Democrats and make promises they know they won’t keep?

    • OliviaHT

      PapaLouie 
      Exactly right. And with the executive in charge of deportations, if he decides not to abide by the deportation triggers, the House has proven itself uninterested and impotent in the face of such dereliction of duty to do anything about it.

    • strangernfiction

      PapaLouie Because they are statists as well.

  • jazzee

    I don’t  get  this: WHY E verify if they will legalize all illegals??????????????????????? am I missing something??? this is such garbage

    • PapaLouie

      jazzee 
      E-verify is supposedly meant to prevent new illegals from crossing the border for jobs. But it will only work if they have stiff penalties for those who hire them. That remains to be seen, but I doubt they will. Too many employers will want a fresh batch of young illegals they can exploit after the old batch becomes legal and won’t work for sub-minimum wages anymore.

  • jazzee

    all the rules Ryan is proposing
    who will handle all this stuff??? Another HUGE UNION dept????????????????????????? it makes no sense how this will all be controlled and monitored

  • John_Frank

    Since 9/11, how much money has Congress appropriated for Defense, Homeland Security, Law Enforcement and Intelligence?
    Trillions of dollars.
    Yet somehow, while all that money was flowing, in the name of national security, we were unable to secure the southern border? We were unable to build a system to track visa holders? We were unable to implement a system that allows employers to easily verify whether an individual has a valid work permit? Why?
    Now, Congress wants to pass a law that will grant those who are here illegally what is being euphemistically called “earned legalization” which is the latest Orwellian phrase for amnesty, while promising to do the things that ought to have been done years ago.
    Why should we believe Congress, especially when we have a President who has routinely flouted the law?
    There is an old expression, “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.”
    We’ll guess what Representative Ryan, stop trying to fool the American people.
    On June 4, Senators Cruz, Sessions, Lee and Grassley sent a letter to their fellow Senators outlining their concerns with senate bill 744:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/145700635/Letter-from-Sens-Cruz-Sessions-Lee-Grassley-Voicing-Concerns-with-S-744
    Have their concerns been met? No.
    Recently, while speaking on the Senate floor, Senator Sessions asked:
    Sessions On Immigration Bill: Doesn’t Congress Owe Its Allegiance To U.S. Workers?

    Sessions: “[This legislation] creates an unprecedented flow of new workers into America—the likes of which we have never seen before—and it will have a direct result of depressing job opportunities and wages of American citizens [and] people who are legally here as immigrants… Don’t we have a responsibility to consider how it will impact people who are unemployed today?”
    Is the message and concerns of Senator Sessions and others resonating?
    Support falling in polls, Harry Reid announces rush to pass immigration bill
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/support-falling-in-polls-harry-reid-announces-rush-to-pass-immigration-bill/article/2532058
    What can we do to help Senators Cruz, Sessions, Lee and Grassley? 
    One way is to write a letter to the two Senators from your State voicing your concerns. Follows is a sample letter:
    “Dear Senator [insert name]
    News reports indicate Majority Leader Reid will file a motion to end debate on the bill early next week with a view to having an up and down vote at week’s end.
    On June 4, 2013, Senators Cruz, Sessions, Lee and Grassley sent you a letter setting out their concerns with S. bill 744.
    I agree with their concerns.
    This bill, even if Senator Cornyn’s amendment passes, is not in the interest of all Americans, but rather will cause detrimental harm to working Americans now and in the future.
    Senator, should you support this bill, you will declare your allegiance towards the special interests that helped write this bill in secret and the monied interests now pushing for passage.
    As such, you will have forfeit your legitimacy, while making it clear that you have no interest in representing those who helped elect you to the office you now hold.
     
     I must therefore call upon you to vote against the motion to end debate on this bill and should the bill come up for a vote on the Senate floor to vote no.
     
     Please understand that if you vote in favor of the motion to end debate on this bill, and should the bill come up for a vote on the Senate floor you vote to support passage of this bill, I will be obliged to withdraw my political support for you, and I will encourage all my family and friends to do the same.
     
    Thank you for your attention to these matters,
    Kind regards,
     
     [insert name]”
     
    Then, after obtaining the address of your two Senator’s offices in Washington, post the letter.
     
    That is correct. For maximum impact, rather than send two emails, or make two phone calls, I urge you to sit down, write two letters to the Senators in your State and mail them. Then, I ask you to urge your family and friends to do the same.
    Some may say the fix is in, it does not matter, and so on.
    Take that attitude and nothing will change. However, by taking action, we can make a difference.
    P.S. May the rest of your evening be blessed.
    P.P.S. Come on people, let’s do it.

  • LindaLeague

    He wants this bill to come out of the house and send to the Senate. Wont the Senate just change it up to what they want? He still don’t get that the administration is not going to follow the law. E verify is supposed to be in effect now, current law says that they cant get welfare etc but they do. Why cant they just change what the current law doesn’t cover. Also he doesn’t talk about how many illegals are ACTUALLY here. Doesn’t talk about family they are going to let come over with them either. So many things to be discussed.

    • jazzee

      LindaLeague I agree………….they don’t enforce the laws NOW so they want to create more and still not enforce  what a joke
      and what about anchor babies and all the sanctuary cities?????????????

      • OliviaHT

        jazzee LindaLeague 
        You can be sure that the new law means big dollars for certain folks. Take Jeb Bush, for example, whose law firm stands to make a mint processing all these new applicants for legal status. Lot’s of ways in this law for the rich to grow stunningly richer; otherwise, such ill-suited bed-partners as Zuckerberg, Adelson, and the Koch brothers wouldn’t be pushing it.

    • strangernfiction

      LindaLeagueHe still don’t get that the administration is not going to follow the law.
      He gets it.

  • jazzee

    so they are going to take illegals off the current welfare they are getting now??? seriously????????????????  WOW what a joke and all these rules………..no way they will be policed
    sorry Ryan the joke is on you…nice idea but this will never happen
    it should be done slowly……………………..see it any of this even works…or just leave things alone they have amnesty already

  • Willie Heath

    Sorry, I am not buying Ryans “Shuck and Jive” we get enough of that from these Politicians, Levin handled him with kid gloves just as he does with Marco Stooogio!

    • OliviaHT

      Willie Heath 
      I disagree with your assessment of Levin’s handling of Paul Ryan. Levin was polite but firm in his questioning, not nearly as soft as in his treatment of Rubio — which irritated me to no end at the time. Levin asked some very solid questions that got to the heart of how this CIR is essentially 1986 redux. It was after the interview that Levin basically let Ryan have it, noting, in so many words, that this administration doesn’t enforce current immigration law so why should Ryan (or anyone) expect Obama to enforce this new, fancy law, all tied up with metrics and ribbons and triggers and what nots?
      See, Willie, if you can go to Levin’s home page and listen to the interview and follow-up comments; I think you’ll have renewed respect for Levin’s interrogation of Ryan; I frankly thought Levin’s follow-up commentary some of the best material he’s ever broadcast.

  • CalCoolidge

    Ryan loses me as soon as he says “can’t” round up and deport.  Of course, we can. 
    Nebuchadnezzar rounded up an entire country.  Hitler rounded up million, and he only had IBM’s earliest punch card technology.
    If the NSA can track every phone call, we can find 90% of the illegals.

    • strangernfiction

      CalCoolidge I would suggest Home Depot for starters.

  • K-Bob

    Ryan is so concerned about “in ten years we will have a serious labor shortage,”
    …that he’s willing to destroy the country in six.
    Senator, we can survive a labor shortage.  In fact, for those at the bottom of the economy, a labor shortage means real job opportunities.  Sure, balance between labor pools and growth would be nice, but you are monkeying around, balancing a card house–of budget and accounting policies, on top of a table–of economic realities, having only one leg (thanks to barack’s willingness to defy the law) in the middle of an earthquake of illegal migration. You are focusing on the wrong things, to the detriment of us all.

    Secure the border.  Measure it.  Then, in five years, if and only if it’s secure, THEN worry about the labor shortage.  Write THAT bill >>>>THEN.
    Not. Freaking. Now.

    • No_BlahBlah

      K-Bob”in ten years we will have a serious labor shortage,”
      not bloody likely if the communists remain in power

  • CalCoolidge

    And this “must learn English” thing is nonsense.  The same people who are telling us we can’t find and deport 10 million people, are telling us we can find them later to make sure they speak English, and then deport them.

    • John_Frank

      CalCoolidge The senate bill only requires that people enroll in a class to learn English. It does not require that they must learn English.

      • BearNJ

        John_Frank CalCoolidge Who going to moniter that provision? When I’m visiting parks in NJ I must hear at least four languages besides English every time.  I think the 11 million number is an understatement.

      • No_BlahBlah

        John_Frank CalCoolidge ROFLMAO!
        If the teachers union is involved, I predict straight A’s

  • John_Frank

    About an hour ago, Senator Sessions issued the following statement:
    Sessions remarks on the CBO score for the Gang of Eight immigration bill:
    https://www.facebook.com/jeffsessions/posts/10151554642404585
    Senator Sessions is the ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee. He is no slouch when it comes to these matters. His analysis is devastating. I encourage people to read the entire statement. He concludes as follows:
    “This bill guarantees three things: amnesty, increased welfare costs, and
    lower wages for the U.S. workforce. It would be the biggest setback for
    poor and middle-class Americans of any legislation Congress has
    considered in decades.”
    This is what Senators Flake, Graham, McCain and Rubio, along with Representative Ryan are selling.
    Earlier, I posted a comment with a suggestion as to what you can do today to help patriots like Senator Sessions stop this travesty.
    http://fyre.it/XGptgr.4
    I urge you to take action.

    • The Sentinel

      John_Frank 
      Thank you for the links… this is helpful.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    From McCain,  Rubio,  Ryan, and Boehnoer, we should have these names on the Recall short list? But then, we can’t get criminals in Washington, DC removed from office or impeached for oath breaking,  hight crimes and misdemeanors, we shouldn’t hold our breaths expecting recalls, cause before that would happen I think hell has a better chance of freezing over.

  • Proudhispanicconservative

    Nice try Ryan, I am more skeptical now that I was yesterday. A failed attempt at convincing us to trust big government.

  • http://www.governmentmess.blogspot.com/ faustmanv

    I know a liar when I hear one… Ryan is just another RINO idiot!

    • No_BlahBlah

      faustmanv Pretty astute of Mark to mention to ryan that he was speaking really quickly and that rubio ‘does that too.’
      That is a lie tell. He told ryan, who is smart enough to pick it up, that he was lying and that Mark and most of his listeners know it.
      They continue to conflate immigration law with border security.
      A pea in a shell game. Where is the pea?

  • http://www.governmentmess.blogspot.com/ faustmanv

    And how many millions/billions are spent on other things other than what this bill represents? This crap is getting old! Its a scam on the American People!

  • davienne

    when does an illegal immigrant abide by the law ??? just asking

  • DanaZZGarcia

    Paul Ryan sounds like Tamar Jacoby: if we don’t massively increase legal immigration then illegals will keep coming any way they can.

  • deleted_15255901_FIREINTHEHOLE69

    i no longer trust any congressmen or senators so put that in your pipe and smoke it….there are too many if’s in his words– i especially loathe boehner..   i believe that most elected officials of modern times are true communists on both sides of the aisle… i am a staunch conservative… no longer a member of the spineless republican party…

  • abbettm

    Mark,  I fully agree that the current Senate bill is a politically motivated disaster that does not deserve serious consideration.  It is disappointing that we have so many elected officials who find the political profit in this bill more compelling than the interests of the people they work for and the social and economic future of our country.  That aside I was also disappointed in the interview because,I did not hear real suggestions for how to deal with the immigration issues we have.  First it seems useful to decompose the problem.  The talk is that we need immigration reform but the bill is and amnesty bill.  These are two different things.  Immigration reform establishes the rules for immigration into our country.  Amnesty forgives those who have broken the rules we have.  I would like to see these handled in two separate bills.  Immigration reform should be passed and implemented before we even discuss amnesty and Congress seems to have this completely backwards.  Immigration reform should contain provisions that make illegal immigration very unlikely.  I do not think we can stop it with border security although I think we should have such security and clearly we do not at this time.  Illegal immigration occurs because it is easy and because the rewards are assured.  To end this we have to remove the magnets that draw people into conflict with our laws.  We must end birthright citizenship for children of foreigners and we must repeal chain migration.  These were put in place with good intentions but have been blatantly abused and the abuse must be stopped or border security has no chance for success.  We also have to put teeth in our employment opportunity and make it nearly impossible for illegal immigrants to obtain and hold employment.  We should also require proof of legal presence for children to attend public schools and I would also require payment of tuition in the same way we charge our own people from non resident jurisdictions.  I think we should make English the national language and stop providing government services, especially voting ballot sheets in foreign languages.  This idea is totally foolish and wasteful.  A guest worker program should be established that provides for legal employment provided the individuals pay taxes and return to their homeland for at least 2 out of every 5 calendar years.  I could go on … but the point is, these are immigration reform measure and none have anything to do with amnesty.  I want a bill like this.  Paul Ryan needs to get on this kind of path.  BTW once the immigration reform measures ore firm some discussion about amnesty would be welcome.  Clearly we have to do something but in the current form it is just a signal to the rest of the world that we have no intention of enforcing our immigration laws.  It is an invitation for massive new waves of millions and millions of new illegal immigrants.  So the amnesty part of this must be secondary to remove that perception and set expectations for those who are considering immigration in the future.  For those who have chose to disrespect our laws and are already here, I think a combination of self deportation and legalization is necessary.  Just how we manage this needs to be worked out but it has to be done within the framework of revised immigration laws.  My take is we should re-consider what the immigration rate is that we need.  It is currently way too high and should be set at around 500,000 per year, no higher.  I would set it at zero for  years and then resume at the lower rate for at least 10 years.  People with current applications would go first.  Illegal immigrant (now on work permits I presume) would go next but citizenship would be granted within the envelope that is defined, e.g. 500,000 per year  At the moment we are admitting twice that leagaly and illegal immigration doubles that again.  Their offspring adds another factor.  So the numbers are huge and we just cannot assimilate that many.  it is not working.

  • ChrisDias

    Objective – Mark, I’m still listening, but ask him what ‘objective’ means. It’s dog doodoo.

  • publius69

    Good interview.  Levin articulates the fallacies with the immigration bill ryan supports.  too bad levin doesn’t Q&A rubio the same way.

    • phil123

      publius69 i think that rubio isnt as capable as Ryan to handle it, so he probably wouldnt agree to come on and debate it,
      so rather then losing him completely, He’d rather ignore him

      • publius69

        phil123 publius69  He isn’t but you still see him everywhere pushing this joke of a bill.  Unless I am mistaken, Levin, Limbaugh and Hannity do not challenge Rubio. Rubio has turned his back on the folks that got him to the senate

        • LindaLeague

          publius69 phil123  You are so right. Levin has done some, yesterday, but Rush and Sean just listen and don’t offer any serious debate. I don’t know why.

  • ralph3327

    The horse has been long out of the barn. The idea we could round up the millions of illegals and deport them is ludicrous. On top of that, millions of children who know no other country would be caught up in the same net. Not a kind thing for a family minded country to do. It’s time for the GOP to recognize the situation as it is today and cooperate in passing the immigration  bill. We have to start somewhere.

  • cummingsamerica

    With waning respect for Ryan, all I heard was “if we do X, if Y, if Z…” and the only thought in my head was there’s not a single chance I trust anyone in government to fulfill a single promise in this monstrosity.
    Two, entirely separate bills are sufficient:
    1)Secure the border
    2)Cut all social services to illegal aliens

  • JD Olson

    I’m really amazed to hear both Ryan and Rubio—ultimately Boehner willing to sacrifice their careers to chase this unicorn. You cannot build/keep a stable republic by disregarding the rule of law. These people are either delusional or traitors.

  • mucktao

    A lot of lip service, but as usual no action.

  • phil123

    how about a 2 Page bill,

    1) secure the border,
    2) once the border is secured, all the people here can be “legalized”, but not become citizens,
    3) then they can go and apply for citizenship, in the back of the line,

  • jdbaird

    I hate when people say like Paul Ryan did: “you can’t deport 11 million people!” But, somehow they find a way to collect income taxes from 150 million citizens and audit or throw in prison the ones who don’t, which is infinitely more complicated than deporting 11 million people. I can find about 30 illegals in like 10 mins, I’ll just take a drive down to the Home Depot, all those guys standing out there in front waiting to get picked up for day labor, those are illegals. There are simple solutions if a person honestly wants to fix the problem, but they don’t really.

  • ChesterSimms

    The only proper way for this interview to be concluded would be Levin’s trademark “Get out of here, you moron!”