Dan Bongino took on Vincent DeMarco of Marylanders to Prevent Gun Violence this morning in a debate moderated by Bruce Depuyt with News Talk. You can watch the full debate below:
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I went searching to find some stats to prove that cars are more dangerous than guns when I came across this. It’s so good, I’m reposting it. Source follows:
Guns SAVE far more lives than they take. –
* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year — or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.
* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.
* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of “Guns in America” — a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.
* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606). And readers of Newsweek learned that “only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The ‘error rate’ for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high.”
* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year.8 Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as “Saturday Night Specials.”
Kennesaw, GA. In 1982, this suburb of Atlanta passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to the modest 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole.
Orlando, FL. In 1966-67, the media highly publicized a safety course which taught Orlando women how to use guns. The result: Orlando’s rape rate dropped 88% in 1967, whereas the rape rate remained constant in the rest of Florida and the nation.
Free people have guns, slaves don’t
Fantastic, and it’s from Yahoo, go figure.
Here’s an awesome one to add, 3,600 rapes/daily prevented by gun. That is 1,314,000 preventions. http://patdollard.com/2013/02/3600-rapes-prevented-each-day-by-guns/
Yes, but are these college campus rapes, and has anyone informed plugs biden about this?
Great questions! With college campus gun-free-zones, would think not on campus and plugs biden doesn’t have enough intelligence to comprehend statistics that are truthful
in reference to TPC; type my name in the search and find the 1 with his arm around the Stanley Cup
I tried and all I got was “no search results found”… Tell you what, email me at [email protected] and we’ll go from there, ok?
Got your email and replied. 🙂
Great article, Wolfie. It proves what we all know. More guns = Less crime.
I particularly liked the law in Kennesaw, GA. More towns should put that one on the books. That’s real violence control.
Well done Wolfie!
Guns are more dangerous than cars. Cars are primarily used for transportation, whereas guns are often used for violence. There is a much lower rate of deaths caused by car per rate of car usage than there are of deaths caused by guns per rate of gun usage.
Additionally, there is nothing to suggest that people who don’t have guns are slaves. The vast majority of Americans don’t have guns, and the vast majority of Americans are also not slaves. Gun owners are in the minority.
However, this is not to suggest I support the Democrats “assault riffles” ban. I am just speaking out against your irresponsible attacks on cars that would lead to an “assault cars ban” that would violate our freedom and hurt our lives. The NRA president has similarly been suggesting irrational and unconstitutional bans–he has been attacking video games and movies for allegedly-but-not-actually causing violence.
‘There is a much lower rate of deaths caused by car per rate of car usage than there are of deaths caused by guns per rate of gun usage.’ – WGG
I’d love to see your facts. Please post them. There are roughly the same number of guns in the US as there are cars. The number of gun deaths per year is lower than the number of automobile deaths per year, so that ratio is better for guns.
If you want to take into account the number of times cars are used, you also have to take into account the number of times a gun is used (not just the 2.5 million times it is used in defense, but the hundreds of millions of times they are used for hunting, target practice, tournaments, etc).
I’ll be curious to see your data.
Edit: And please learn how to spell “rifles”. It’s embarrassing.
As others have said here and also added to what you posted, this is a great post.
Wow… he is frickin’ rockin this debate. Amazing.
See, there are people that we can support! If people would stop with just complaining about Obama & start taking the time to follow and support people like Dan Bangino, a lot of good things could start happening.
See what common sense and sanity sounds like?
Digging Dan more and more… now we need to clone him. 🙂
I agree. We definitely need more like him.
“No one should be able to shoot more than 10 rounds at one time.” Infringing.
Some people are so stuck on stupid it is sad.
Enact all the guns laws you want on legal gun owning citizens, Criminals don’t care.
There should be no gun control in this country if the 2nd Amendment is strictly adhered to.
The left in this country continue to display what simpletons they are….they are so blinded to their own “stupidity”, it’s down right scary. Scary because they want to force their stupidity on the population.
Doesn’t matter one bit because the stupid liberals in this country are…well….stupid and we al know from experience, you can’t fix stupid.
As far as preventing those that are mentally ill from owning a gun I would say great, Liberalism is a disorder and therefore, no liberal can own a gun legally. Of course this still won’t prevent liberal nutjobs from obtaining a firearm and doing damage to the general population but hey it feels good and ultimately, this is the only thing that truly matters to said liberal. Same argument is used referencing paying more taxes than allowed. Well, you can so Liberal asswipes throughout the land, please pay more than you’re allowed.
Dan Bongino did great – one against two, who think that using unsupported numbers makes for a great argument. It’s what the lefties do and have done for years (think: AGW). So well done Dan Bongino, and I hope you reached millions!
Somewhat OT: my dratted browser (google chrome) is preventing me from loading rightscoop! I’ve had no answer from them as of yet, and the only way I got here was through twitter … Now, I’ve been ill all last week, so have hardly been online, and when I was able to see, there was no rightscoop!!!! I suffered from withdrawal symptoms, but wasn’t up to really chasing things up until now
Anyway, that’s why you haven’t seen me around …
Glad you’re back, Colliemum! Hope you’re feeling much better!
I’m aiming to get better every day – I don’t really want to see my GP and be forced to have a rant at him …
My “back-up” browser is chrome and I am not having difficulty loading the right scoop.
I only noticed this morning, I thought yesterday there was maintenance, and then i was too tired to check later (time diff. between the UK and the USA).
They did do some change to chrome – also when I wasn’t on the PC, else I’d have ranted at them sooner – perhaps that’s it. We’ll see …
Try Firefox, it’s working (and has been) fine for me with that browser.
I would, only I have everything on chrome, all the bookmarks, it’s like wearing a nice old pair of slippers …
I’ve got safari, and it works there, but I can’t get the font size so that I can read easily.
So far, the trick with twitter is working, also the replies.
I’m still not quite with it, so expending mental energy on browser issues is daunting right now. Makes me think of going back to bed :-(((
Actually, Firefox lets you easily import bookmarks and other data from Google Chrome. This article gives you step-by-step instructions for getting it done.
Seriously, Colliemum, it worked for me and I haven’t looked back since I switched.
We missed you! Good to know you are okay and on the mend. I’ve had some ‘puter problems recently as well. Not fun at all 🙁
‘On the mend’ is the operative expression here, meaning I’m not out of the woods quite yet. But no internet is only sustainable for a short while – else I get the jitters!
I hate PC troubles, and I hate it when tech people talk down as if one was a moron who’d just forgotten to plug the thing in …
You are missed when you’re not here! Glad you’re feeling better.
Have to pace myself and not overdo it … but now that I can somehow access rightscoop, things are definitely looking up!
Glad to hear you’re on the mend, mum. A little smackdown at the Scoop always heals the soul. :~)
Now take care of yourself!
cm, haven’t you heard Google is in bed with the 0b0 admin, in support of gun control they have reduced their browser to a 6 round click…
Try my browser mozilla firefox, it comes with a gazillion round magazine click.
Vincent DeMarco – says gun laws are already working. Really? Tell that to the people on the south side of Chicago, in NYC, in DC and as Dan Bongino (quite a hero that man) says, in Baltimore.
I loved Bongino’s line in another video about never having the discussion about disarming when the Secret Service was taking the prez to a city with harsh gun laws …
Again, who the he!! are these people to say people shouldn’t have more than 10 rounds at a time. The guy keeps talking about straw purchases. I wonder if he’s ever questioned fast and furious as much as he is the 2nd Amendment.
Dan, God bless you for common sense!!
10 is a nice round number that has exactly zero evidence or science behind it. Wasn’t it a maximum of 6 rounds last week?
For these lefties who claim to love science so much, they sure don’t seem to know how to use it except to spout off incongruent statistics and outcomes. DeMarco comes out sounding like a slimeball professor who “knows everything” and acts like everyone who’s “reasonable” agrees with him. If you don’t agree with him, then clearly there’s something wrong with YOU! I’ve about had my fill of pompous libs today.
I am personally sick and tired of liberals telling me what all Americans support.
The Anti Gun people just continually lie. Forget what the facts are, lets just keep making things up. Nice how they had Dan’s mic turned down a bit lower than two chuckleheads so they could speak over him and interrupt him. Liberals.
Substitute “anti-gun people” for liberals, the rest of the sentence still fits!
OH MY GOD THIS IS GREAT!!!!!!!!
Why do these leftists all look so half asleep and messy
(i dunno, they seem to think it’s awesome…)
We are loosing this argument. This is a perfect example why. Dan brings the truth, however he is fighting two against one. Vincent makes arguments and quickly backs up his point with false statements and moves on talking. The moderator aids in the cover up by redirecting the narrative. Vincent also throws in extra points, disregards what he cannot argue with and changes direction (EX: Brazil gun violence). These tactics are used by the left in every argument on every subject. It is called CMA… or lying with conviction…
Vincent uses terms like “reasonable” or “responsible”, throws in statics – 62%, and most “people agree”. We need to use this argument style to win. We need to put them on the defensive and start by saying the vast majority of Americans in national polls favor no restrictions on gun rights. We have studied this and the result show conclusively that restricting guns causes more harm then good.
Dan is brilliant, but his argument is out done by two to one. More time is given to the subject for more restriction. I think Dan did well, he was right. However the low info voter whom is used to decide our fate will side with what they think is real and that is the false argument of the left. Low information voters will not do research, choosing instead to take these people for their word, all be it false.
Here is an interesting story on creeping government and Low Information Voters, it easy to see correlation’s between the USA today and Austria in the 30’s & 40″s:
I feel I should add thank you Dan so much for fighting, we all should be fighting this hard every where we go! The story linked to above is frightening and looks like much the same plan recycled…
I agree with most of your points on how libs “debate,” but I disagree that we are losing this argument.
My concern is that the spineless repooplicans will once again cave to some type of “compromise” with the gimmecrats on gun control, even though there is no need to give a single solitary inch on this argument.
Why do you disagree we are loosing the argument? In recent history, right or wrong, our track record isn’t very good. We think we are winning, or have won, only to be betrayed and loose, this is a pattern that is hard to ignore. I would like to be wrong but there is something that goes on behind the scenes that causes our side to be sold out…
Based on GOP performances for the last several years a “cave of some type” is very probable and likely. Why should we expect anything out of what has become “normal behavior” at this point.
I read on a different forum that there was deal in the making regarding sequester, however it was quashed by the WH… Why would the GOP attempt to make a deal, why would the WH quash it, if not to make the GOP look bad? The WH does that anyway, why does the GOP cave in an attempt to fight looking bad at something when they will be blamed anyway?
We just need to figure out how to get the politicians to accurately represent/communicate the true desire of the people. Bongino does a good job of it, but venues like this are probably not too effective. They kept calling him “Republican candidate…” and then cut him off at every turn and double-teamed him.
There’s no doubt the media is the 2nd arm of the gimmecrats & there’s no way our challenge will be easy, but most people do agree that the govt is too intrusive. I just can’t lay down & say, “yup – we lost – again. and we’ll continue to lose forever.” What kind of message is that?!?
Thank you Is_Sense_Common for replying.
I agree, however it seems what the people want is not a factor in the equation, look at obamacare…
I know we the people do not agree with a lot of what has been happening in our country. That makes one question what is going on behind the scenes, look at Colorado and their guns legislation of late. Somebody did something to flip the needed votes of people claiming they were not running for that office again, meaning no repercussions for their turncoat.
We are seeing legislators legislating what they want for personal gain, not what the people they claim to represent are asking for.
I write my reps all the time, in return I get form letters saying thank you for the contact but we are going to follow the party line… These people make sick, they represent their party and follow orders from on high, not we the people.
This is why I think we are loosing. I sure hope I’m wrong, I’m not willing to give up…
We attended a gun show over the weekend, very enlightening! Cost for ammunition is very high, box of 500 .22LR $75 & up, WOW!!! Box of 500qty 9mm up about $100 ($265)… Very few AR 15’s in comparison to previous shows, we haven’t been to a show since December.
Talking with vendors about attendance, they said Saturday was standing room only, isle between vendors were packed. Number of guns available, especially hand guns was greatly diminished, although prices seemed pretty stable, even saw a couple of good values. Used rifles very obtainable, prices up for the most part though…
Stopped in a couple of sporting good stores on the way home, scary empty stock of hand guns, AR & AK style guns, and all ammunition except shot gun almost non existent!
Salesmen said they have no inventory and unless something changes fear they may be out of work very soon. It was a real eye opener of how the American citizenry is reacting to those supposedly representing us!
Watched it live this a.m. Dan. Thanks – from this old cultural warrior – for taking up the pro-liberty flag and rocking their world!
Ever wonder why urban police officials are so supportive of gun limitations and registration? Remember a few years back when LA bank robbers armed with AK47s out-gunned the local police? Lesson learned. Two reasons come to mind: They want their officers to always have superior firepower; and they are the ones who will ultimately be tasked with confiscating all of the registered guns when the time comes.
Stinking libs talk over the man every time he begins to make a point,because they can’t make a valid argument.Two to one.Typical.
The founding fathers never intended the people to be outgunned by the governmnet.
The gentleman on the right indicated that Scalia in the Heller case said that States had the right to impose gun laws. What he and others that bring this up fail to explain the context in which it was made. Scalia said that “nothing in our opinion should be
taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places
such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” He further said “But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens
capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty.” He made no opinion on what type of weapons that would be appropriate.
Finally someone with the balls to call a liar a liar on tv.
Vincent DeMarco is full of crap. He names New York and New Jersey as examples of the laws he wants enacted across the nation.
% of AMERICAN gun deaths occur in New York, New Jersey, Chicago, DC and CA. (CA is split between Oakland and LA)
Vincent, you are simply lying in this panel. AMAZING that you were not called out on your crap!
The anti gun people keep saying that a majority of people in MD are in favor of gun control. I looked up where this was coming from. A company called Opinion Works polled a whopping 800 registered voters between 12/28/12 and 1/3/13 and determined that tiny sample represents all Maryland residents.
The real deal is this……. Quite simply the phrase “Gun control” to the current administration is equal to “civilian control”! The 2nd amendment literally has nothing to do with anything Obam is pushing with his “the kids are victims” BS. It is absolutely an attempt to prevent honest hard working American citizens the right to protect themselves and their families from governmental tyrannys which are the real aim of our current communist leaders. McCarthy was right. Allen West is right, Ted Cruz is right…….The majority of our political positions of power are comprised of those who hate and champion the destruction of the Constitution of the Republic of the United States of America…….. and, they are winning! We have become a nation of political cowards. There are a few exceptions scattered here and there, but not enough. It is what it is, and that, my friends, is what it is!. Impeachment proceedings are the only hope of slowing this socialist trend into the abyss! Where are the true patriots willing to stand up and shout, “give me liberty, or give me death!”
Dan Bongino is once again great in rebuking these liberty -killers like DeMarco and Obama.
We need Dan to run again.
Give me a break before the “Brade Law” criminals could walk into a gun store and by a weapon? Where is your data? No questions about the Idiot Statements from these Liberals!
“You guys talk about this as if criminals actually care what you have to say.”
Dan pretty much destroyed them both in that. Loved the part about the “cop killer bullets”.
These REgressive pukes make me sick-it’s none of their GD business how many rounds my magazines hold-Vinnie is lying through his teeth when he says AZ has a higher gun death rate then NY-same old BS from REgressive liars, it’s all about confiscating our weapons, one baby step at a time
Bongino wiped the floor with this guy.
This is a “retired” Secret Service Agent, and he is pretty well spot ON!
Per the FBI’s Crime Stats for 2011, Arizona had 339 homicides of which 222 were firearms whereas Md had 398 homicides of which 272 were with firearms. Obviously Vinny has some screwed up stats!!!
Oh, and for Illinois, which has the strictest gun laws, 452 homicides of which 377 are committed with firearms.
Across the board, a grand total of 323 homicides were committed with a rifle out of the 12,664 homicides committed in 2011!! Why are they going after rifles?
Bottom line: liberals, democrats, progressives are interested in one thing only: control of people. Bongino has it right, the lefty is just a propagandist for the fascists.
I believe that Dan Bongino, makes a great point about everything. Its that simple. Something is going on in our country today, and its unconstitutional. I could list all the things Dan just said plus so many others I have been researching for what feels like months. I’ve been around guns my whole life which is half a century at this time. I’m pro NRA, a republican, and I guess now that there is a split in the GOP, I’m pro Tea Party. This is something I’ve know about I can’t say how long, to many years to count. but there is a lady if you all haven’t seen this you should do yourself a favor and watch it. I was born when this came out My Father knew about it, we were stationed in Germany when I around 7 or 8 the city was Kassel. There were CIA there, and there were many things my Father talked about years later after Vietnam, He left the army, and there were times when his PTSD, is what its called now, He’ed blurt out inform about things, that had been written down. About disarming America, the information can be heard about from this link I hope you get to see her, and hear her story. i watched it and when she brought up this subject, my hair literally stood on end. Because it was what my parents knew about. Camp America, Kitty Werthmann speech, Howard Lake, MN.http://www.youtube.com/user/bnvn1?feature=watch·http://www.youtube.com/user/bnvn1/videos
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Presentation by Kitty Werthmann, A living survivor of Nazi-controlled Austria.
Tuesday, September 28th, 2010 at the Howard Lake High School, Howard Lake, MN.
Werthmann witnessed history during World War Two and speaks about history repeating itself with the current state of government in America.
She talks about growing up in Austria before and after the Nazi party and Hitler took control.
To license this footage for broadcast, contact http://www.bnvn.com/I’ve known about this for over 38 years.
“On the Federal level, President Obama wants to ban assault weapons that no one should have outside the military….”
According to WHOM??? WHO SAYS A US CITIZEN SHOULD NOT HAVE AN AR-15? Where is this written int eh Constitution?