GOP Rep. smacks down atheist college student who thinks the Army should have secular chaplains

Rep. Burgess (R-TX) handles this student quite well who is only there to push the dumb idea that the military should have atheist and secular chaplains.


(h/t: The Blaze)

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  • Orangeone

    Atheist + chaplain = oxymoron

  • every chaplain I met would gladly try to help anyone regardless of their religion.

  • clockwindingdown

    This is what modern schooling controlled by leftist has to offer, and the student asking the question wants to enter into politics. 
    Typical of the left; “why don’t you support my way of thinking?” question, is not intelligent enough to realize “their way of thinking” is not inclusive and has proven throughout history to be self detrimental and damaging to all, the only thing the left is all inclusive in is destruction and misery…

  • That was excellent.  This kid wants to go into politics when he grows up. I’d suggest reading the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and also reading the historical and traditional creeds and hymns of all of the Military Branches. Oh, and maybe a dictionary so he can understand the meaning of the word “Chaplain”.

  • Orangeone Well you did get the moron part right sis.

  • DebbyX

    To say you don’t believe in something (anything) is to first acknowledge that that something actually exists either thru faith or belief.
    So by stating he doesn’t believe in god he makes the point that there IS a God to begin with.

  • Keyes

    Great point!

  • bobomack

    All I can say is BRAVO to Rep Burgess for shutting this atheist down. These people just don’t get it. They’ve taken God out of Schools, the courts, and now the public and wonder how the world is in such dire straights. This country was founded on the premise of belief in God and fools like this student seem to be devoid of common sense!!

  • Orangeone

    AmericanborninCanada Orangeone Kid’s a moron. An atheist that wants a chaplain, makes you wonder doesn’t it.

  • OrangeoneAmericanborninCanada What really makes me wonder is that there are actuallly atheist preachers. huh?!

  • Orangeone

    AmericanborninCanada Orangeone Then we should protest and sue them.  They can’t have their “religion” and attack ours.

  • taurnil

    To say it was a dumb idea is a huge understatement and smacks of the illogical thinking of not just atheists but their brethren such as communists, progressives and liberals. A Chaplain *by* definition *requires* the person to believe in God and if not Him some lesser type “being”. It requires a * religious* practice and to be religious requires a belief in God.or again some lesser type “being”. I use the phrase “lesser type being” because the term Chapel/Chaplain is closely associated religions that believe in one supreme God.
    Even if an atheist objects to the definition I just mentioned then the question to the atheist is this; your objection is based on what? That I do not consider your “practice” to have a religion or a supreme being of some kind? If your answer is we do not believe in God or a god then by your own admission you cannot be a religion therefore you do not fill the criteria to be a Chaplain.
    I suppose you could be confused about the term “Chaplain” You know its a person “*in* charge of a Chapel”. Or are you atheists confused about the term “Chapel”. You know a Chapel where *God* is worshiped.
    So explain to me again how an atheist can be a Chaplain because it sounds like; a) you and your brethren are confused, or b) your just trying to redefine terms. If its either then you need to have a chat with Merriam-Webster.

  • badbadlibs

    Now, your post is a “smack down”. The good congressman was stumped for a clear answer to the young man’s query.

  • SalvatoreAnello

    Orangeone Same with gay marriage, but that hasn’t stopped them. To be “LIBERAL” is to live in bizarre world. To be progressive is to be regressive to the point that there were no individual freedoms. It boggles the mind.

  • badbadlibs

    SalvatoreAnello Orangeone 
    I often say it’s a wonder liberals don’t walk on their hands and eat with their feet. Their world is entirely bass ackwards.

  • john11111

    when I was 18 I ALSO have known everything…..but I did grow out of that.
    Those who didn’t, are now liberals/commies/mental dwarfs.
    BTW – atheist chaplains? Smoked weed again?
    Sound like cold fire or childless mothers.

  • Orangeone

    AmericanborninCanada And I suspect a Libertarian lying by running as a conservative.

  • nibblesyble

    Yay! Thanks for posting that the audience were not having it either! There is hope yet people!

  • LibLoather

    john11111 In 25 years, when this “atheist” has a son or daughter in the military, he’ll watch this video in shame.

  • medicinewoman2

    LibLoather john11111 No, they will.

  • SheerPolitics

    Perfect example of why Rush refers to young people as “skulls full of mush”.

  • Pokerwife1

    I don’t understand the concept of being an atheist and needing an atheist or secular chaplain.  That would be therapist not a chaplain.

  • Pokerwife1

    taurnil I had the same thought.  My second thought was why do atheists need a chaplain at all?  If they don’t believe in God (or lesser type being) then why would they require the services of a chaplain?  The kid mentioned something about a chaplain being a “friend.”  This is not what a chaplain is.  His friends are his fellow soldiers.  The chaplain is the one who leads the spiritual worship service and meets the soldiers’ moral/spiritual needs.  If these atheist soldiers have issues they are struggling with perhaps what they need is a therapist.

  • kong1967

    “…how will you represent your….athiest…..constituents?”. — Idiot
    Hey, idiot, you’re going into politics, so I’d like to know how you’re going to represent your Christian constiutents?  Hypocrite.
    He totally destroyed the meaning of “there are no athiests in foxholes”.  Being in the service is not in a foxhole.  Being in a foxhole is being under fire while entrenched …. welll, everyone knows.  It’s when your life could be gone any second.  Everyone becomes religious at that point.

  • Proudhispanicconservative

    That is what our educational system creates, a God hating, american hating, malcontent, in other words a liberal.

  • Proudhispanicconservative

    Im pretty sure the kid’s parents also need therapy and a lot of it.

  • kong1967

    OFF TOPIC:  Sorry, but I had to tell you all this.  I saw a horrific accident last night.  Well, immediately after before there were any police there.  I was on a 4 lane (one way) busy highway and suddenly cars were quickly stopping in front of me (which can cause a pile-up).  A motorcycle was sitting in the middle of the four lanes, no rider was near it.  It was on a bridge above high level river water.  Cars were lined along the side, people were looking over the side of the bridge and one lady had her hand over her mouth in shock (while looking over).
    When I came back by there hours later, there was a trail of liquids headed straight for the wall (concrete barricades on the side of the bridge), so I’m assuming the cyclist clipped the front of a car while changing lanes to the right and went straight for the wall and got thrown over.  Weekend, so no reports on the internet yet.

  • deTocqueville1

    Very nice. Good to see the unashamed conviction.

  • Las1

    It’s “b”… trying to redefine terms.  They do it all the time.  
    Communism in the 1940’s becomes progressive, progressivism becomes liberal in the 1950’s, becomes progressive again in 2000’s.  Racism becomes something only a white person can exhibit;  pro-abortion becomes “choice”;  theft and confiscation becomes “redistribution”;  sexual abnormality becomes “gay”;  political opponents become “extremists”; equal outcomes become “equality”;  wealth creation becomes greed;
    Few meaningful words escape the thuggery of the leftists re-make artists.

  • SalvatoreAnello Hey Salvatore! Long time no see. Good to see you here now.

  • taurnil Excellent comment.  This also made me just think, would this not prove that atheism is a religion? All atheists deny they’re a religion, but if they now have pastors and demand chaplains, sure smacks of religion to me.

  • SalvatoreAnello

    AmericanborninCanada SalvatoreAnello I come here daily. Just don’t do much commenting. I get wore out. Actually, The last Bill Whittle post managed to get me fired up again a little bit.

  • nibblesyble

    kong1967 That must have been harrowing to see, sorry for that Kong..much prayers for you and others that witnessed that and for the family of the victim.

  • maynardb61

    That poor lost soul of a young man.  I pray he is saved in the near future.

  • luckycat76

    Sorry, kiddo, but participating in a college ROTC program is not the same as being in that foxhole, taking enemy fire.
    He should ask my dad, who flew 50 missions in 1944 in a B-17, who literally saw men washed out of the ball turret, how many of his fellow airmen were atheists.

  • poorhardworker

    kong1967 Unfortunately, you will probably not hear of it unless you go to the local community.  They will be reporting on it.  Sorry, Patriot…

  • Watchman74

    Wouldn’t that mean Atheism is a religion?

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  • Laurel A

    That idiotic kid is a fine example of pseudo-intellectualism on display and what parasites atheists truly are.

  • Laurel A

    Watchman74 It is a religion since it is practiced and put forth in the same manner as religion. It requires MORE faith to NOT believe in God than it does TO BELIEVE in God.

  • Laurel A

    luckycat76 Thank you. Glad to see someone else who caught that.

  • Gee, a poli-sci atheist left liberal twit spouting cliches eh? Who woulda thought it! He is an example of over 50 years of Marxist Critical Theory of which the only point is to criticize to the point of destruction. As Mark Steyn says, if everything is up for grabs, you cannot talk about anything. There is no logical beginning or end to the demands of left liberalism. No, really. Colonel Neville.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    luckycat76 Your father is my Hero!

  • Conservative_Hippie

    maynardb61 Amen.

  • luckycat76

    Thank you. He’s 89 and is still my hero.

  • luckycat76

    Thank you. He is 89 and is still my hero.

  • DanaZZGarcia

    The armed forces have secular chaplains, only they’re called psychologists.

  • SCarolina

    Proudhispanicconservative Isn’t it odd that a spiritual story was run by CNN. Amazing young lady.

  • Proudhispanicconservative

    Yes pretty strange coming from the Cnn, and that girl is simply amazing.

  • taurnil

    AmericanborninCanada taurnil
    No it does not make atheism a religion. Religion from time immemorial has always involved some kind of deity and religion is *all about* a deity of some kind. With “some kind” being ethereal, mystical, its full nature hidden, immortal and for a lack of a better word; person. They deny any such thing which by their own admission they negates any logical, reasonable or common sense argument they possess the key for a lack of better words, faith in a deity. A religionwithout a deity is not a religion and has always through history been referred to as secular.
    Before anyone goes “ah ha” but some people treat science as a type of deity. They would be wrong to ascribe such characteristics to the study of physicalities‎. Religion is not constrained by those things but science at any knowledge/technical level has that physicality constraint. 
    The reason they (atheists) want pastors, chaplains and the “trappings” of religion is simple and has nothing to do with religion. They want a similar status and with that status comes power. The only way they can get that is through deception like attempting to redefine words and concepts that have been in use for a millennium or two or more. 
    In the end all they want to do is secularize religion and secularism is nothing more than convincing others to accept their (atheists) indifference or rather rejection of religion.

  • tinlizzieowner

    “The armed forces have secular chaplains, only they’re called psychologists.” 

    One of was named Maj. Nidal Hassan. 😉

  • tinlizzieowner

    I love it. 
    A ‘political science major’ asking why there are no ‘atheist Chaplains’ in the military? You would think the ‘useful idiot’ might have at least looked up the words ‘Atheist’ and ‘Chaplain’ first, before demonstrating his complete ignorance.

  • tinlizzieowner

    “That poor lost soul of a young man.  I pray he is saved in the near future.”
     I couldn’t care less if he was ‘scrapped’ in the near future. 😉

  • SigEliteDark

    Atheist chaplain = oxy moron

  • tinlizzieowner

    But, but, but ….. His ROTC friend stayed in a Holiday Inn one night? 😉 😉

  • tinlizzieowner

    Las1 taurnil  
    Like Obama’s (Communist) pal Van Jones said, “Top Down, Bottom Up, Inside Out “.

  • njmom

    Smart answer for a dumb question.

  • taurnil

    Pokerwife1 taurnil
    In a sense a Chaplain is a friend when taken in the religious context that position normally holds and we all know what the word friend means.  But the real question remains; why do they want one? Why would a person that rejects God want the services of a person of God or to even step foot into that realm of thought/belief? 
    If you listen to any atheist speak about their thoughts on religion, God and anything in that arena. To put it mildly; they think very low of us that have those beliefs. So if us types are so mentally challenged, again why do or would they ever want guidance, help, etc from us (Chaplain)? A religious person should never be on their list of people they want help from or to “emulate”.
    Again I will say this isn’t about religion, its about power.

  • Atheism is sophomoric at best. There are no foxholes at the University of North Texas. “Atheist chaplains” is an oxymoron unless you confess that Atheism is, in fact, a religion.

  • Luker410

    Chaplains are Priests Rabbis, or Muslim Imams.  Atheists do not believe in  God and therefore do not need a Chaplain.  But when the mortar rounds are inbound and the atheist dives in the Foxhole to save his ass, He is praying to the creator for one more day on earth.  It happens…Get over it.  God created you and he is waiting for your time of crisis to help you, even if you are a POS in an auditorium.

  • 3d81

    typical arrogant atheist thinking his Dawkins and Hitchens gods seem to be popular right now that he has some sort of moral and intellectual high ground.

  • Charm4sure

    This was an exercise in stupidity by this student. An atheist chaplain is an oxymoron. Atheist don’t believe in God so why would they need a chaplin, who is a man of God? When the atheist goes into battle he can bite a bullet if he is scared or,  whatever, atheists do in such circumstances. This guy is an activist going into the military to start trouble. He’ll be suing the military before long. Probably just another dem trying to ruin the military and run the USA into the ground.

  • JohnCraven

    Sorry to hear about this accident kong1967.  A lot of people I know ride motorcycles but most of them do so safely.  However, you always have those that are recklessly speeding to impress God only knows what and so often it ends up bad.
    John Craven – New Orleans

  • JohnCraven

    Rep. Louie Gohmert was sustituting for Hannity the other day, AmericanborninCanada, and he started talking about God and he said something to the effect about “those poor atheists, they believe no one took nothing and made everything out of it!”  I thought that was great.  It reminded me of Billy Preston’s great song lyric: “Nothing from nothing leaves nothing/You got to have something if you want to be with me!”
    John Craven – New Orleans

  • JohnCraven

    I like when Rep. Burgess told this “young skull full of mush” that if he thinks he’s going to change his beliefs then “you’ve got the wrong kid!” and the audience just erupted in applause.
    Perhaps someone can pass this along to Rep. Burgess.  It is the latest and best scientific opinion about the beginning of the universe and it simply has the atheist’s major scientific proponents completely depressed since all the evidence points to the simple conclusion that the universe had a beginning – that it came out of completely nothing which can be measured in any way under all known laws of physics and therefore something – Someone – which exists outside of all known laws of physics had to cause the creation of the universe from nothing – I would say it is “I AM WHO AM” who said in the beginning “Let there be light!”
    John Craven – New Orleans

  • JohnCraven Oh man, I wish I could have heard that! I love Louie Gohmert. Haven’t listened to Hannity in ages- Gohmert subbing for him would have been a treat! 🙂 Thanks for telling me though, that’s great!

  • JohnCraven

    You definitely would have liked it AmericanborninCanada.  He warned all the atheists out there that he would be talking about GOD too at the very beginning of the show.
    The only thing I have a problem with Louie Gohmert with is that he seems to have a desire to pass some kind of amnesty bill for illegals once the “border is secure” and as Will ( much to my surprise) on the ABC segment posted on Right Scoop noted Obama doesn’t abide by the law if he doesn’t want to.
    I ask you something about what Dr. Carson said on Hannity about Canada’s immigration system and guest worker program that he thought would work here once we secure the border on another thread but I will ask you again here too.
    John Craven – New Orleans

  • kong1967

    nibblesyble  Thankfully I only saw it after it was over.  That would be horrifying to see him go over.

  • kong1967

    tinlizzieowner  Lol, that almost qualifies.

  • poptoy1949

    Thank you REP. Burgess.  That young one is still wet behind the ears.

  • Ricardo Pacetti

    I’m moving to Texas.

  • dneuwen

    one of the most fundamental role of a chaplain is prayer. if there’s gonna be an atheist chaplain in the military to whom is he going to pray? in the name of all that is justice and goodness on earth (which by the way I heard just recently in a hollywood [read anti-God] movie)? what nebulous and confused concept. do justice and goodness have ears to hear someone’s prayers?

  • tinlizzieowner

    kong1967 tinlizzieowner 
    Yup, it almost makes them as qualified to speak about the military as Obama, huh. 😉 😉

  • kong1967

    Pokerwife1  I know, it’s silly.  They don’t believe yet they want to represent the clergy.  Isn’t that like making Satan heaven’s spokesperson?  it makes no sense.

  • Redhenagain

    Atheists don’t need chaplains. That’s what we are paying military Psychiatrists and Psychologists for. When these humanists and atheists start falling apart at the the thought of impending battle and possibly losing their lives they can talk to a clinical counselor or Dr. and those professionals can tell them anything they need. “Why are you afraid? You don’t believe in Heaven or Hell so I don’t understand what your problem is. See you while ago. “

  • taurnil

    Lol. Hadn’t thought about in exactly those terms but your absolutely right.

  • JohnCraven

    AmericanborninCanada, is the guy you are supporting for the senate seat here in Louisiana, now occupied by Sen. Hillary Rodham Landrieu, named Robert Maness?
    Tonight I went to Rep. Bill Cassidy’s first town hall meeting in his run for US Senate against Landrieu and a friend of mine did too and we were way less than impressed.  You can’t get him to speak above a whisper and he wants to be a nice guy running against Hillary Landrieu and he apparently is one of Rove’s handpicked candidates.  My friend wants to check out Maness and I told him I thought he might be the one you are supporting.
    We need a candidate who’s going to let everyone here know that it was Hillary Landrieu’s vote that rammed ObamaCare down every American’s throat.  We need someone who’s going to stand up to her.  We need someone to fight and take a stand against this insanity.  Is Maness the guy or are you backing someone else?
    John Craven – New Orleans