Herman Cain: We are an exceptional nation and we are going to keep it that way!

Herman Cain gave a rousing speech at the American Policy Summit hosted by the Tea Party Patriots. His speech centered around the theme that we are awake and fighting for America, as he laid out ideas of how to put America back on the path to prosperity. One of his remarks that got the most applause was when he declared:

We are an exceptional nation and we are going to keep it that way! Mediocre is not in our DNA!

After all we’ve been through, he says that we will survive two more years of Barack Obama.

Amazing Speech. Enjoy!

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  • Anonymous

    Amen. Herman Cain is indeed the best Candidate-to-be, a REAL conservative, an honest businessman and not a corrupted politician, great inspirational speaker, and someone I believe who truly loves America for what it is, not what it can be radically transformed into. He’s everything that a president SHOULD be, and everything that our current president is not.

    To hell with the elitist republicans, Herman Cain 2012.

  • poljunkie

    He’s got my attention!

    • Anonymous

      and mine! He’s growing on me!

  • Anonymous

    Great speech. He’s definitely got it.

  • Interesting he skipped over 9/11 in the mini-history of the nation.

  • Harvey

    american exceptionalism – america/americans are teh bestest country and peoples EVAR!!! – is real.

    that is, the ability some americans have to presume they are superior individual members of the human species based principally on where they happened to be born – i.e. utterly arbitrary geography – is truly exceptional. it’s stunning, frankly.

    i can’t wait for brunette exceptionalism – jefferson had a chestnut brown forelock!!!that means i’m a cultural futurist too! – to gain some traction. combine that with the rising trend of short dude exceptionalism – ben franklin was under 5’6???*highfives self* – and my self-esteem will be solid as a rock. a very, very silly rock.

    seriously. this isn’t a rhetorical question, i’m genuinely interested in the answer.

    how do you reconcile these two things?

    a) the divinely inspired, honorably intentioned design and development of a USA designed on central, monolithic ideals.

    b) the people who developed this design and implementation project did so on land that was already occupied and owned by hundreds of different native communities – with pre-existing individual, distinct social identities – from coast to coast.

    the US is all about individual liberty, the freedom to pursue happiness w/out fear of restriction from the state. unless you’re native. or female. or black. or irish. or japanese. or jewish. or mexican. or muslim. or, apparently, a member of a public service labour union. or whoever folks who have the point of view presented by mr. cain believe to be undesirable.

    seriously. why are conservatives so beholden to this sense of perpetual, pre-conditional american moral superiority? what do you get out of such an oversimplified, clumsy attitude towards essentially everything? self-righteousness can’t be that valuable.

    the history of this place is as bloody and unjust and imperialist as any other world power. your ability to understand that shouldn’t depend on which group of participants in the past you decide to identify with.

    would love to understand your perspective on this more fully, so i’d be grateful if you could leave the sanctimony at the door one this one.

    please help me get why i’m wrong about this. or, more to the point, about you.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll tell you what, Harvey, when you learn to type a coherent sentence I’ll waste my time trying to explain to you how every single person who embraces the American idea is exceptional no matter where they come from or what color skin they happen to occupy.

      The shift key sometimes has arrows on it. I checked and the Edit key is working.

      • Harvey

        as i said to elihu, i know you think i’m wrong. i also know you know the difference between coherent ideas and notions you disagree with. you’re not silly. you’re just being lazily snarky or casually dishonest. either way, it’s clear.

        anyone who’s not obsessed with maintaining a sense of endless, self-sustaining moral indignance could immediately identify what you’re doing.

        so, *shrugs*. i hope you consider acting like the reasonable person i’m pretty sure you are.

        also, i’m sorry you’re so beholden to capital letters being a key component of effective internetzspeak. always thought everyone got over that after being exposed to a couple of e.e. cummings pieces or toni morrison novels.

        • Linkmeister2

          “also, i’m sorry you’re so beholden to capital letters being a key component of effective internetzspeak.”

          Capital letters are a key component of the English language, Harvey. Use them and make your English teacher proud. Along with that, try making coherent sentences that follow a pattern. That’s called a paragraph. Paragraphs have sentences, capital letters and coherent thoughts.

          “always thought everyone got over that after being exposed to a couple of e.e. cummings pieces or toni morrison novels.”

          Trust me-you’re no ee cummings (no periods) or Toni Morrison – besides that, this is a political forum, not a poetry readers’ guild.

          • Anonymous

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            • Anonymous

              Reason #47 for why I can’t stand Libertarians and agnostics.

          • Anonymous

            I gave up with idiots like this a long time ago. The no caps jerks can never get through a post without a couple of !!’s or *’s just to show they don’t use it on purpose.

          • Harvey

            “Capital letters are a key component of the English language, Harvey. Use them and make your English teacher proud.”

            the pride of my english teacher’s never been something i’ve had any real interest in protecting, especially when posting on a net forum. is that one of your general goals? making your old teachers feel good about the things you do? not sure what you get of that, but, um, good luck, i guess.

            “Along with that, try making coherent sentences that follow a pattern. That’s called a paragraph. Paragraphs have sentences, capital letters and coherent thoughts.”

            actually, after a quick scan of the TRS’ population grammar style, i’m pretty sure that i’m top 5th percentile or so in spelling and punctuation, let alone paragraph establishment. there’s waaaaaaaaay more folks posting up here who are even less disinterested in being orthographically absolutist. they don’t bother you, though. not enough to mention it, anyway. because you agree with ’em.

            all that said, i’m pretty sure you’re thoughtful enough to look past the fact when i type “i”, i actually mean I. so, you understand what i’ve shared and are just disinterested in answering the question posed. no idea why that is, but it is apparently the case for you.

            that’s fine. disappointing, but fine. it’d be nice if you didn’t lie or be lazy about it, though. it really does suggest that you don’t interact much with people who disagree with you. like, you’re not used to having to explain what you mean and why to folks who don’t have the same basic beliefs as you.

            i’d suggest you work on diversifying your general experience. you might learn something you didn’t already know and hadn’t already heard ad nauseam. that’s explicitly why i’m here.

            i don’t understand you. i’m asking you to help me correct that. so, once again, please:

            how do you maintain your commitment to the notion of american exceptionalism? what information are you using and how are you interpreting it?

            • Linkmeister2

              Reason # 43291 for not debating liberal trolls, especially ones that don’t believe in punctuation or capital letters..

        • Anonymous

          Harvey, I don’t know how old you are but your shtick is older than I am.

          I haven’t read much of what you’ve written because I don’t waste my time with internet fools who think “typing cute” is cool. I’ve heard every excuse in the book from “this is an informal setting so I feel no need to type correctly” to “I write code all day long so it’s how I roll” and they’re all bullsh*t. The truth is you have a dick about 2 inches long, tops, and this is your way of compensating for your feelings of inferiority. Get over yourself.

          • Harvey

            ha. ok. typing w/out caps is cardinal sin number, i dunno, 7 in jaynie59’s book. forgive me for hurting your eyes and spirit or whatever.

            honestly, i really don’t get the pre-conditional hostility. we’re not fighting. we’re not arguing. we’re not even talking, really. we’re a couple strangers typing periodically, hoping the other responds reasonably.

            despite that, you came into the situation in a pretty distinct huff. you’ve mentioned you think my self-esteem is negligible both times you’ve engaged now. gotta tell you, this really feels like projection.

            i ask a question. you say i’m incoherent. i reply, and ask the same question. you mention my penis. if that seems like an exchange you’ll be proud of in future, then i admire your hubris.

            have a solid day.

    • Elihu

      Harvey,
      That is one convoluted post…

      • Harvey

        i know we disagree. that was immediately obvious. just say that. it’d make you something other than, well, lazy.

        i know it’s the internet, but c’mon. be a decent, honest participant in a conversation with someone you disagree with. it’s possible. i promise.

      • Harvey

        i know we disagree. that was immediately obvious. just say that. it’d make you something other than, well, lazy.

        i know it’s the internet, but c’mon. be a decent, honest participant in a conversation with someone you disagree with. it’s possible. i promise.

    • KeninMontana

      You come in here to (as you put it) to understand us. However you open with a post dripping in sarcasm, condescension and contempt under a thin veneer of feigned civility, hoping to boost your own feelings of inadequacy by casting aspersions and accusations in all directions. I suggest you spend a bit more time with a dictionary learning the difference between exceptionalism and moral superiority,the two are quite different. Until then you are really nothing more than an internet troll, a wordy one,but none the less still a troll.

      • Harvey

        again, i know we disagree. hucking low impact ad hominems about my self-esteem are beneath you, i’d like to think.

        i’m not sure what aspersions/accusations you dug out of my post. if you could be more specific, i’d be grateful.

        american exceptionalism, like essentially every cultural attitude, isn’t a self-evident truth. it’s a conclusion reached through the interpretation of information. so, again, what i’m confused about is what information you’re interpreting to produce and propagate this notion of american exceptionalism.

        how’d you make up your mind this way about this stuff? since, as i shared in my initial post, doing so means intentionally keeping a whole bunch of essential facts off the table. that is, as far as i’m able to tell. i’m asking you/y’all to explain your/their position more fully.

        if you believe me to be a troll, there’s not much i can do about that. the reason i’m trying to ask these questions is specifically because i don’t get y’all. i already know what folks on the left think. talking to people i disagree with is far more useful, since it introduces me to new perspectives while helping me refine my own point of view.

        also, i’m pretty sure you don’t rely on daniel webster to shape your understanding of the world so his definitions of exceptionalism and moral superiority are immaterial to this conversation.

        hope y’decide to help me get where you’re at. thanks in advance.

        • Marti17

          Troll!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • KeninMontana

          Actually the definitions are at the crux of this, perhaps you should go back and re read your initial post and ponder on it a bit more.

          • Harvey

            fine. i’ll engage within the parameters that work for you.

            exceptionalism – the condition of being exceptional or unique. the belief that a country or people are exceptional or unique.

            moral superiority – the belief held by an individual person/collective population that they’re not only better than everyone else, but that their superiority is justified by their values set.

            therefore, based on these descriptions that you guided me to, american exceptionalism is the belief that america and americans are exceptional, inherently outside the norm.

            now, specificity doesn’t equal superior. they’re totally separate ideas unless, of course, you decide to make the one justify the other and vice versa. that’s mr. cain’s premise – that america’s uniqueness and superiority are two sides of the same coin.

            that the american values set is the best on the planet, which makes it special.

            or, put more simply: american exceptionalism = self-proclaimed moral superiority.

            which is what i was explicitly asking about initially. what information you used to reach that conclusion and how you maintain it.

            so. help me understand. what’s the difference between exceptionalism and moral superiority? the definitions you asked me to seek out don’t delineate from one other at all. so, how do you split this hair?

            • KeninMontana

              As for Herman Cain’s thoughts you will need to seek an answer from him. Due to the fact here that you cannot fathom the difference in the two terms even after you posted the definitions,suggests to me that you will never understand no matter how it is explained to you.

              • Harvey

                i’m pretty sure that anyone interested in being reasonable rather than the winner will quickly determine that you’ve copped out.

                the definitions, that you asked me to get, are materially the same. without stretching or reaching or hacking, exceptionalism and moral superiority are self-sustaining ideas. you can’t have the one – about yourself or a group you are part of – without the other.

                it’s not like working for, i dunno, google and saying you’re part of the most successful search engine in the history of the planet. that’s measureable, trackable, testable.

                saying you’re part of the best country and the best people in the world with the best values set in earth’s history only makes sense to people who share that belief.

                so, again, i’m asking – what information are you using to maintain the idea of american exceptionalism?

                • KeninMontana

                  Hardly a cop out, it’s called tired and bored in addition to being under the weather. Let’s start with this, “saying you’re part of the best country and the best people in the world with the best values set in earth’s history only makes sense to people who share that belief. “, this would be a belief in moral superiority. This is far different than a belief that the US is a unique nation in many different ways,being exceptional means for example that we can move beyond our past mistakes, unique in the fact that there is no ethnic requirement for being an American, unlike the prevailing thought on national identity that prevails in many European nations, a manner of thinking that you displayed in your initial post on this thread. The fact exhibited in the continued peaceful transition of power every four years in this nation since its founding, the fact that in the history of our nation we have maintained the same form of a republican government, a constitutional republic. Then you have the fact that in truth any one can come here and be successful on their own merit and by the sweat of their own brow. Is America perfect? No. However we can see that and move beyond it to continue to strive for it peacefully. Those are a few things that put forward the idea of American exceptionalism. Liberals, as you have clearly identified yourself in previous threads, can see only failings, as for myself I tend to see both successes and failings, can honestly question them and look to move past the failings. If you still “don’t get it” well then you are truly beyond any hope of understanding.

  • Anonymous

    Never heard of him until I started reading this site. I do like him, but still think West is a better package. Not sure Herman is the best choice in dealing w/foreign policy the way West would be. West is simply a leader, I don’t see “leader” in Herman, I do see good sense, honesty, conservative, patriot etc. I see classic businessman and the down home persona which I am not real keen on, but that is not a dis, just observation. People could fear West, but I find it hard to fear Herman. I definitely would love for Cain to be put in a top position in our Gov’t. he would make a good VP that would actually do something.
    West/Bolton or West/Cain would definitely be a no nonsense ticket that would drive people on the left and right insane. Oh how fun that would be.

    • Anonymous

      I agree that West would be better, but sadly, I do doubt he is running.

  • Constance

    I’m proud to say I was at this event last night here in Phoenix! Nothing makes you feel better than to see crowds of people around you that believe as you do.

  • 2008 – Barack Obama elected – MSM proclaim American has moved beyond race.

    2012 – Herman Cain elected – MSM proclaims American gives in to white guilt.

    Any takers on this prediction?

    • B-Funk

      No bet. You’re probably right.

  • B-Funk

    Cain for President!

  • Dkandrews

    How about Cain/West ticket…… I think these guys got it going on…. “OH” I forgot I’m suppose to be a racist…… “NOT”………..

  • Dkandrews

    How about Cain/West ticket…… I think these guys got it going on…. “OH” I forgot I’m suppose to be a racist…… “NOT”………..

    • Anonymous

      West/Cain.

  • Wbanderson1981

    Look at all those racists. (joke)

  • Anonymous

    “But the Americans are oblivious. They travel abroad so rarely that they don’t see how far they are falling behind. Which is why we at the embassy find it funny that Americans are now fighting over how “exceptional” they are. Once again, we are not making this up. On the front page of The Washington Post on Monday there was an article noting that Republicans Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee are denouncing Obama for denying “American exceptionalism.” The Americans have replaced working to be exceptional with talking about how exceptional they still are. They don’t seem to understand that you can’t declare yourself “exceptional,” only others can bestow that adjective upon you.”

  • Mediaccess

    Good guy!

  • Dpappas3

    Cain/Palin (recycle your bumper stickers from ’08 with a slight modification!)

  • Pauline

    I love Herman Cain! He is a true patriot.

  • Steprock

    I’ve been listening to Herman Cain for a few years since I used to hear him on the radio in Atlanta. Love him.

    (Hear that trolls??? Tea Party Conservative white guy really loves what this black man has to say! OMG!!!! Is that even possible???) /sarc Yes, it’s possible. His race is only important to me insomuch as it would shut the race-baiters up.

    But seriously, what do you guys think are his chances, realistically? I’m concerned that he’s still a long shot of a candidate, and I am concerned about his age and health for this strenuous job. I also want to hear that he’s solid on foreign policy.

    What I LOVE about him is that he’s a patriot, he’s down-to-earth, and he uses facts mixed with a razor-sharp wit. He doesn’t take any crap from his callers either. I’d like to see him do well in the big race. Your thoughts?