Hot Seat with Bill Whittle: How do conservatives compete with liberal hand-outs?

This is a great answer by Bill Whittle that revolves around telling the truth about government hand-outs and explaining the message of conservatism:

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  • opinionatedhermit

    The Framers of our Constitution told exactly how to deal with this…..


  • Sober_Thinking

    Kind of like comparing sugar to vegetables.

    Democrats promise candy that will provide short term happiness… while conservatives offer vegetables… not as tasty as candy but it’s healtheir for you and will help you to live longer – leading to long term happiness (and more).

    Bill is right.

    The problem is that the government tells the moochers that they’ll take care of them and those boobs actually believe the government. And their “new normal” is poverty so they’re temporarily satisfied.

    • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

      Big problem in America: parents don’t know how to say “no” to kids.

      • Sober_Thinking

        Honestly, that made me laugh (not out of happiness but out of irony)… it’s so true and it’s so unbelievably sad. Children raising children.

  • XXIIFan

    That just might have been a good conversation to have in south Philly, but I don’t know of a politician who would be willing to have it. I can hear the libs screaming about how dare he go and condescend to the poor folks in south Philly. The screams of racism would be heard throughout the land. It would have been a good, honest conversation though.

  • BeyondPolls

    Simple. Go hard to the right on social issues. Champion the family. Preach the real Constitution.

    • Well said. It’s pretty sad though when one considers issues like Family and the Constitution are considered hard right.

      • BeyondPolls

        Yeah. But in order to win we have to turn out the evangelicals. I hear half of them aren’t even registered to vote. That’s what grassroots orgs like yours can do. 🙂

        • Yes, I agree. And I hope we will be able to get more of them than ever before! 🙂
          Thanks for the encouragement BeyondPolls! I appreciate it!

          • BeyondPolls

            You’re welcome. 🙂

  • gajaw999

    Bill makes a good point that we are going to have to meet them where they are if we are going to get our message across. But we need to make sure that the one delivering that message 1) truly understands what conservatism is all about, 2) can explain it in a compelling fashion, 3) is passionate, fearless, and immovable, and 4) genuinely loves and can express compassion for those downtrodden by the progressive machine. Unfortunately, Romney failed these tests, although I am sure he is a decent and caring man.

  • colliemum

    I generally like Bill Whittle’s comments. But in this one he is sadly wrong.
    The last election should have shown him that dems and lefties are not open to rational arguments – they vote with their feelings.
    Someone said Romney lost because he talked about getting America to work again.
    Dems and welfare dependents don’t want to work – not even for getting an iPhone6 or 7: they know they can steal it or get someone else (i.e. the tax payers) to pay for it.
    One can’t even shame these people off welfare and into work: many of them work in the black economy – that’s not racist, btw, that is the economy where unskilled work is doen for cash-in-hand, no questions asked, no taxes paid.

    So I’m sorry, Bill, you’re far too rational, addressing this problem.
    Only someone who can speak to the feelings of people will get their votes.
    Mind – a conservative doing this will of course be defamed by the LyingScreamingMeejah as ‘populist’, and as right-wing rabble-rouser. Which brings us straight back to one of the other main reasons why conservatives won’t win: the left, propaganda machine which are the LSM. And that’s not even addressing voter fraud …

    • TimeForAnarchy

      You’re spot-on, my friend.

      The Democrats have defended a man guilty of negligent homicide (Ted Kennedy), a known Klanner (Robert Byrd), and an accused rapist in the White House (Bubba Clinton), just to name a few. What’s a free cell phone to an illiterate voter here & there? It pales in contrast.

      Far too rational. But it doesn’t solve the problem, and I will gladly admit I don’t know the solution.

      • colliemum

        Well – the ‘solution’ would be a conservative candidate who can enthuse the conservative voters and the former blue-dog dems and independents, and on whose coat-tails more candidates such as Cruz and Scott could enter the Senate, or more Allen Wests could get into the House.

        But we all know that the one person who could do this has been so defamed by the lies of the LyingScreamingMeejah that even conservatives have fallen for the lies coming from inside the Beltway, and deem her ‘unelectable’.

        I speak of course of Sarah Palin.

        • TimeForAnarchy

          Right again. Marco Rubio and Sarah Palin just have an innate sense of enthusiasm that gets you out of your chair and motivated.

          I don’t want to be pushed into battle; I want to be LEAD into battle!!!


    • johnos2112

      He isn’t speaking to the feelings of these people? When has them to honestly say are you living a better life with just enough to get by exactly speaking to the feelings of these pissed off people. Liberals lie about who causes this and setting the record straight is what just did in about 3 minutes! So I disagree! That message will make them think. Tough love will need to be a part of it. I think a true conservative who talks this way will win. Maybe not by a landslide but the re election will be.

  • Lives4Freedom

    I’m going to pick on a more detailed item here. The people who are gaming the system need to be stopped. You know, the ones who buy candy with their food stamps, so they can make their children sell it to their neighbors for cash, so the cash can be used to buy alcohol. That kind of stuff is so irritating.

    • Yes, but bread, cheese, peanut butter, and milk is now a house, cell phone, cable TV, full medical and bread, cheese, peanut butter and milk.

  • wodiej

    Many conservatives are hypocrites. They criticize liberals for getting hand outs but every single taxpayer gets hand outs every time they do their taxes, send their kids to free public schools and the list goes on. If conservatives want more people to embrace the message, then they need to get their message straight. And big business gets more hand outs than anyone.

    • P2BC

      Are you serious? Doing taxes is a handout? Public schools are free?
      Let me rephrase my first question…Are you an idiot?

    • Amy

      ???? Seriously? I pay outrageously high taxes – income, property, sales, payroll – the list is freaking endless. So those of us who take advantage of any & every loophole in this incredibly flawed & progressive tax code are taking handouts? You have some upside down, backwards thinking.

    • Patriot077

      Nearly 1/3 of my property tax goes to education! And even renters are paying for it whether they realize it or not, as the costs associated with their rented home are built into the monthly rent.

      When I do my taxes I take all the permissable deductions but I don’t consider them handouts. Do you not take deductions legitimately allowed?

    • unclesamnephew

      public schools are not free to me. just take a look at my property tax bill wodiej! and if you are “only” renting, the landlord is pay property tax which 80% is earmarked for the local public “free” schools

    • Nukeman60

      When I first bought my house, my mortgage payments were high and my property taxes were low. As I pay off my house, the mortgage payments remain the same or decrease (depending on whether I refinance or not) and the property taxes continually grow.

      Once my house is paid off (after 30 years and at a cost of 3 times the value of the house), I no longer have a mortgage payment, but my property taxes are the size of my initial mortgage payment. Much of that property tax goes to the school system, which my kids have left years ago.

      This is just one example of my tax deductions. Deductions are just that – deductions. A minor lessening of the massive amount that I pay in to start with. Not handouts or gimmies or freebies. And the money was mine to start with as it was, not the government’s. They took a handout from me and I just demanded a piece of it back.

      So don’t tell me about taking handouts. Try not being so hypocritical yourself – for a change.

      I have certainly paid my fair share and I continue to do so.

  • Godisright

    I like Bill very much, but he is being way to optimistic about the “can’t-lift-a-finger-where-is-my-big-screen-tv/phone” Moocher class. They are not stupid when it comes to getting stuff and they don’t care if there is an opportunity to “climb the ladder.” They have been conditioned by our government to take the path of least resistance. the only way for them to be somewhat motivated is to take ALL of it away.

    Anyway, what is the incentive for us entrepreneurs to get better stuff when the government just takes the cash that would get us to that next level? As small business owners we are being disincentivized and pushed closer and closer toward the Moocher mentality. If we give in to this progressive mentality, soon the standard/benchmark will be so obscure that we lose any recollection of how things should have been.
    Winners have lost and losers have won – Crappy game!!

  • Excellent as usual, but SO excellent. That’s exactly what needs to be done. We’ll never convince people that government free stuff isn’t good- we need to SHOW them the true good things they could be capable of getting without the government. Well said Bill. Love it!

  • cabensg

    Romney made promises. Obama made promises. People chose Obama’s promises not just because of stuff but because they actually thought Obama was an okay guy. Every dirty backhanded lying piece of crap Obama shoved down our throat for four years was ignored. Every lie he told to get elected the first time was ignored. I’ll admit it would have taken great intellect to have pointed this out to make it palatable to the masses but it could have been done. Romney just wasn’t the guy capable of doing it just like he wasn’t the guy to face a belligerent crowd with honesty.

  • Bill Whittle 2016!

  • As illustrated in Alex Jones’ “New World Order: Blueprint of Madmen” (below), here are just a few countries that have slaughtered millions in the past century:

    China (PRC) (1949 – 1987) — 76,702,000 people killed.

    USSR (1917 – 1987 ) — 61,911,000 people killed.

    Western Colonialism (combined) — 50,000,000 people killed.

    Hitler’s Germany (1933 – 1945) — 20,946,000 people killed, including their own population.

    Japan (1936 – 1945) — 5,964,000 people killed.

    Pol Pot’s Cambodia (1975 – 1979) — 2,035,000 people killed. Pol Pot was funded by U.S. government.

    The death toll is so big, the horrifying devastation is hard to fathom. The list of serial killing governments goes on and on. For more statistics on governments murdering their citizenry, visit the University of Hawaii’s democide webpage.

    What did many of these slain people have in common? They were disarmed. In many cases, bans on firearm possession left the majority of guns in the hands of a state who then turned its weapons against its own people.

  • WordsFailMe

    SLightly OT: Thinking about the NEW York ass who published the addesess of gun owners, a thought just hit me. Since most Obama voters detest guns, I’d like to get a registered voter list from the state of California and set up a interactive website, linked to Google Maps.

    You would enter a California city name, a street name and a range of numbers you were interested in. The site would print a list of all the address of liberal, socialist, communist, green party and Democrat voters in that range.

    since burglary is a probability profession–
    “Is anyone home home? Is there any cash in the house? Is there a burglar alarm? If my new service could increase the probability that the owners were unarmed, that could give the burglar one less item to worry about. Choosing only houses where libs live decreases the odds that the owners will be armed and eager to kill a home invader.

    I think I could sell the lists for about $1.25 per block with the first 100 addresses free.
    Any web page developers out there interested? I ahve access to some sample addresses…

    Aw c’mon , patriots. Go easy on me. We are about to enter the communist era where cheating the government and our fellow citizens for profit is going to be the norm. You Immigrants from the old Soviet Union remember how the game of life is played under a tyranny.

    Black markets, smuggled goods, clothes, electronics, software tobacco. etc.and under ground economies to cheat the tax man- It’s going to be like the wild west again (of Communist Russia, that is.)

  • kamiller42

    It’s a nice answer Bill, but disconnected from the reality of Newmerica. The answer wouldn’t work for 2 reasons:
    1) It had too many words. If you can’t get the answer down to a snappy 1 or 2 sentence quip, you’ve lost the audience.
    2) “It’s not easy.” That’s like garlic to Dracula. For them, it’s easy to get the government freebies. They know the system. They play the system. While they may not get the best phone or whatever, it’s easy to get.

    No matter how well Romney’s answer would have been, it would not have pacified relatives and friends of illegal aliens from the fear of deportation or women from the fear of losing free birth control.

  • Nukeman60

    All that Whittle says makes perfect sense to me. But then I’m a conservative. As conservatives, we want sensible, honest solutions to our many problems. We are willing to work for what we want and are ready to sacrifice to get it.

    However, Obama has tapped into the entitlement mind. It is a dark and dreary place. That’s why he is so confortable there. It will take much more to break them from him. They will not lose their addiction without a whimper and a fight.

    It starts with the conservatives coming together (we’ve been held apart far too long by the RINOs). Then we bring in the downtrodden that are truly wanting to get back on their feet and get off the dole they’ve been forced on.

    A majority of the unemployed truly want to work. The 93 million that didn’t vote are not all Obama lovers. Many are just tired of the same old rhetoric. Obama only got 30% of the eligible voters (42% of eligible voters didn’t even show up. We need to figure out why and how to change that).

    Find a candidate that can convince the no-shows to come to the voting booth and I’ll show you a landslide. This person must stand up to the LameStream and not be worried that he/she will get lambasted in the press.

    In other words, find someone who cares more for the people than for the office and I’ll show you the next George Washington.

  • Another interesting point that could be made is that if we took all the people who do NOT deserve to be on welfare or food stamps, then we could free up a lot of money to help those individuals who really do need a lot of help, maybe even more help than they are getting right now, like the disabled or even some veterans. That’s the problem with what the liberals always keep pushing. If EVERYONE is a victim and needs to be supported by the government, then EVERYONE starts feeling helpless and demands that the government provide everything for them. Problem with that is, whatever the government “gives” you, it can easily take away, like your benefits, your money, AND your rights.