By The Right Scoop


via Doug Mataconis. I so didn’t want to open this can of worms, but it appears that Judge Napolitano has opened his mouth and revealed that he is in fact a skeptic of how WTC Tower 7 came down. What’s worse is that he did it on Alex Jone’s show:

JONES: OK finally, man because I’ve never raised this with you, because it’s a subject I just leave alone with folks because I don’t want to cause people problems. But you brought it up with Geraldo Rivera, who says he is concerned about building 7, and I want to put the question you put to him to you. I mean, what do you think of Geraldo Rivera coming out — what do you think of 7?

NAPOLITANO: It’s hard for me to believe that it came down by itself. I was gratified to see Geraldo Rivera investigating it. I am gratified to see that people across the board are interested.
I think twenty years from now, people will look at 9-11 the way we look at the assassination of JFK today. It couldn’t possibly have been done the way the government told us.

JONES: Well, I want to tell you this. You’ve got a lot of courage, Judge, and so does Geraldo Rivera. I don’t agree with him on some of his more liberal political views, but I do resonate with his courage, and I resonate with yours, and I already had the highest respect for you, but now the thermometer just broke. And the mercury — geysering out of it right now. Judge, you are a great American, and I just can’t wait till your show is number one on Fox Business, when you’re on regular Fox full time, because no army can stop an idea whose time has come.

Now he doesn’t explicitly say they planted bombs in it, but he also doesn’t appear to believe what the government said about it either. I am not a truther and have honestly never looked into it, so I’ll refer you to Popular Mechanics on this issue.

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  • John

    Personally, this isn’t an issue to me. 9/11 happened. Let’s move on. The Judge is a great man and a terrific asset to have on the side of Liberty.

    • Paulchri

      How could a “great man” and “an asset to the cause of liberty” ignore the possibility of government sponsored terror? Why is our government so trustworthy in your eyes? The big lies are the most believable, said Hitler. The cover ups and 911 commission interference are public knowledge. What is wrong with finding out why they manipulated and directed the commission, and covered up video proof of massive explosions? Seems like public due diligence to me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/AMrSmith Robert Smith

      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5428.htm, check this out. Does any one remember the memo of that think tank that Rumsfeld and Cheney and some other neo cons were involved in that stated a “Pearl Harbor” event was needed to bring certain emotions to the top so certain “bills”, like the Patriot Act could be enacted….just sayin’

      • Paulchri

        You must be talking about the Rand Corporation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/AMrSmith Robert Smith

      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5428.htm, check this out. Does any one remember the memo of that think tank that Rumsfeld and Cheney and some other neo cons were involved in that stated a “Pearl Harbor” event was needed to bring certain emotions to the top so certain “bills”, like the Patriot Act could be enacted….just sayin’

  • Stephen

    “JONES: Well, I want to tell you this. You’ve got a lot of courage, Judge, and so does Geraldo Rivera.”

    Courage is not the word that comes to mind. MIT also did a comprehensive analysis of the building 7 collapse. When will this stuoidity die?

    • Cheryl~

      Obviously you choose what you want to believe…if the government will legalize killing small, helpless innocent babies, then I think they are capable of ANYTHING…did Bush and Cheney sit in the oval office and plan this out-of course not…they aren’t capable of doing such things, just like Obama wasn’t capable of getting himself elected…there are just so many more players in this game…

      • Anonymous

        If the government REALLY was behind 9-11 there would be a ton of truther leaders with heart attacks, cancer and senseless deaths during muggings.

        • Cheryl~

          So if it is ok that we kill babies it is NOT POSSIBLE that anyone in the government…or whoever runs them would orchestrate anything that would harm any REAL PEOPLE?

        • Paulchri

          Why has congress systematically pulled funding from the health care of 911 victims and rescue workers? You should research that. It is basically the same thing you are talking about.

          • Anonymous

            they didn’t pull funding, there was a big fight about funding because (as usual) congress critters were throwing everything AND the kitchen sink into the bill providing funding. There was also a lot of concern about fraud (NO!! That would NEVER HAPPEN)

            • Paulchri

              If that’s true, the reports I saw didn’t mention it.

              • Anonymous

                That is so unlike the MSM.

      • Stephen

        No, Cheryl, I choose to believe that for which there is credible evidence. MIT and others have done comprehensive research on the collapse. Steel loses 50% of its structural strength at 1000 degrees – well within the temp range of burning Jet-A fuel. The entirity of the truther evidence falls solidly under the category of “things that make you go hmmmm.” Next.

      • Stephen

        No, Cheryl, I choose to believe that for which there is credible evidence. MIT and others have done comprehensive research on the collapse. Steel loses 50% of its structural strength at 1000 degrees – well within the temp range of burning Jet-A fuel. The entirity of the truther evidence falls solidly under the category of “things that make you go hmmmm.” Next.

        • Cheryl~

          Actually this comprehensive RESEARCH is funny considering that very little was done to ACTUALLY RESEARCH or INVESTIGATE 9-11 and of course you are familiar with the findings of the 9/11 Commission?

        • Paulchri

          Sporadic fires in a 47 story building do not cause it to fall at nearly free fall speed perfectly in its own footprint. Weakening of metal beams would cause sporadic structural deficiencies that might cause uneven collapses as best. 1300 engineers and architects have come out saying there is no way this building came down on its own. There is plenty of video evidence coming out that proves massive repeated explosions. A lawyer had to sue NIST for the video and received some 15TB of information that they are decoding and releasing slowly.

          • Anonymous

            And no one mentioned the hundreds of C4 packs attached to the walls, especially the exterior walls where the majority of the support structure was.

      • Paulchri

        I would have only taken a hand full of people in key positions to make sure that they had a clear run to the buildings. The building 7 issue is key in the 911 family’s efforts to find the truth. Many demo experts have said that it would have taken a long time to rig the building for any kind of controlled demo, which would naturally means that someone knew what was coming. There are just too many things that don’t make sense. Seems like people have a mental block when it comes to this issue. I don’t get it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000220027383 Troy La Mana

          I saw a story once that stated that thermite could have been added to any paint and professional painters wouldn’t know the difference. Repaint enough office space and you have just planted a bomb without anyone knowing you did it. One fire and the entire office would be engulfed in 2000 degree flames in less then a minute.

          • Anonymous

            woooo waaah

          • Paulchri

            A lawyer sued to get video released. He has since released the video of a few firemen talking about molten metal in the debri after the buildings fell. The used the term “like a foundry”. How do you get molten metal “like a foundry” continuing to burn in the debri? Just another unanswered question about suppressed information. Actually, some say that thermite or some other mixtures could do that.

    • Extremely Right

      I can’t believe anyone thinks our government murdered 3,000 people for political gain. And by the way. Steel melts. That’s how it is made to begin with.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000220027383 Troy La Mana

        Steel with 2.1% Carbon by weight begins melting at 1130 °C (2066 °F), and is completely molten upon reaching 1315 °C (2400 °F). The FEMA report on 911 said that the Jet A fuel burned off after a few minutes and the fires from the office furniture and carpets were about 560 degrees. The special structural steel of the WTC has over 98% of its strength at those temperatures, and the WTC was built to hold 5 times its load.

        • Extremely Right

          Area 51 has been relocated.

        • Paulchri

          I do a fair amount of metal work. Mild steel one inch thick requires a lot of sustained heat to melt it. The heat disperses below the melting point quickly. Engineers who have looked at the structural engineering and materials used, say there is absolutely no way that jet fuel could melt those beams, or even have sustained fires long enough to weaken them significantly. Most of the jet fuel was spent quickly. Building fires don’t do what these did.

        • Greg

          Right Troy and Paulchri. The towers 47 massive steel internal colums got progressively thicker from top to bottom so how could a fire near the top cause complete SYMETRICAL collapse of 2 steel buildings when steel disapates heat so rapidly and a 3rd SYMETRICAL collapse from a steel building not hit by a plane? And molten metal below grade?

      • Barry Miller

        If steel melts, why does your kitchen gas stove grate not melt while you are cooking? How could such a limited amount of burning jet fuel, which was not burning as an oxygen rich stoichiometric flame, melt such huge masses of the steel used in the construction of the twin towers? The idea is so ludicrous it is amazing to me that every professional engineer in the country has not shouted out with incredulity at the official explanation. This issue is surely not a right/left issue but one based on common sense.

    • Paulchri

      It will die, as Judge Nap said, as quickly as the Kennedy assassination did. Still going almost fifty years later. I hope they don’t leave it alone until we get some real answers, whatever the conclusion.

  • http://geopolicy.wordpress.com Tony

    Judge Napolitano is now a friggin idiot in my book. Alex Jones always was… What a stupid and inconsistent move by Napolitano.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504624590 Chris G.

      What ever happened to Thomas Jefferson’s phrase “QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS”? Glenn Beck uses it all the time, & I think it is worthy here, too.

      Another phrase I use regularly is TRUST NO ONE. The truth will set you free, & that is what we should earnestly search for, regardless whether we like what it tells us or not. I have no idea on who is right on this issue, but I refuse to start calling a group of people a bunch of negative names (for example, “truthers” or “birthers”) simply ‘cuz I am willing to question with boldness what they have to say.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504624590 Chris G.

        Hey Tony….

        Glenn Beck’s show just came on, & what is he talking about right now? The theme is this (& these are Glenn’s words):

        DON’T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT!!!!

        He said that just as I was typing the comments above.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PMLT5XN3DODARW4HIWZCBBS5YA Mickey

        You do know that Thomas Jeffeson said that in realtion to wheather religion was a true system of beliefs or a series of myths created by men to control men? He was writing to his nephew Peter Carr and offered him advice on life and growing into a mature person.Jefferson was not instructing Carr to question trooferism,birferism,or insane government conpiracies,but rather to study religion and decide for himself if god was real or if it was all a lie and that there is no god.It’s all Jefferson meant.Nothing more,nothing less.

        http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=802&chapter=86673&layout=html#a_1991558

        There’s no need to drag Jefferson’s name into the mud.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=770715455 Daniel Tumser

          You’re being deliberately obtuse, his point in referencing Jefferson is easily apparent to any reader. He was channeling Jefferson to say that just as one boldly questions religious claims so to are we required to not grant the government our trust of every word they say simply because they are the government.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504624590 Chris G.

          Yes Mickey, I’m aware of that. But if it’s OK to question w/ boldness the very existence of God, is not not also OK to question much smaller things, such as whether or not we are being told the truth about 9-11?

          I have no idea if the 9-11 truthers are right or not, ‘cuz I haven’t done my own research. But I think it is proper in a free society to question EVERYTHING.

          • Paulchri

            Not only is it proper, but required to secure our freedoms in my opinion. If the public knows that they are not being told the truth, and they do nothing about it, then government will use that to their advantage in the future. It will only get worse unless we hold them accountable. Lets say that it wasn’t coincidence that NORAD was training for the very same event the day it happened, which supposedly threw them off and stood them down. It would be good no make sure that didn’t happen again. We are expected to believe that it was just a HUGE mistake, every time.

    • Paulchri

      Geraldo has been one of the biggest truther bashers, and is now reconsidering the building 7 issue due to what the “Architects and Engineers” are saying, along with the video evidence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

    fire has never brought down a steel building… ever!!!

    • http://geopolicy.wordpress.com Tony

      Hey another friggin idiot… yey

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504624590 Chris G.

        You remind me of how the progressives behave when they come across someone that has an opinion that is different from theirs, a la Saul Alinsky: insult them. Call them names. Make them out to look like fools.

        • http://geopolicy.wordpress.com Tony

          Chris G. Go ahead and attack me for calling a 9/11 truther an idiot. You are about to assume the same label.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504624590 Chris G.

            Considering the source, I’ll take that as a compliment. Thank you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

        are you calling the 9/11 victims idiots???

        In addition to the Twin Towers and Building 7, the World Trade Center complex included buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6. Compared to Building 7, all of these buildings were severely damaged, first by falling rubble from the tower collapses, then by fires that burned for hours. Although these buildings were in critical condition, none of them collapsed.

        If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.

        • http://geopolicy.wordpress.com Tony

          no look again. I am calling YOU an idiot. lol

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

            “Pull It” Larry Silverstein

            • Paulchri

              Someone once argued that “pull it” meant using cables to bring the building down, not explosions. So they had a few hours to engineer, set up, and pull down the buildings with cables in the midst of everything else. It seems like there is always an answer for everything that makes no sense. The problem is the answer doesn’t either.

    • Anonymous

      High temperatures, metal fatigue, massive deadload above. The second tower went down first and was hit by a plane at a lower floor. The collapse started at/above the impact points. The buildings came down much slower than a free fall.Building demolition starts at the bottom with lots of charges all over the place.

      • http://twitter.com/QuiteRightly Quite Rightly

        Yep. Building demolitions start at the bottom, sort of like when the Twin Towers crashed to the ground near Building 7 with the force of several hundred tons of TNT. That’s not so good for building foundations and ground floors, especially buildings like #7 that are already on fire due to burning debris falling into them.

        • Paulchri

          Are you saying that you believe the firefighters who were gathered in the lobby and got blown to bits by explosions? Those that survived testified to this saying “there were multiple explosions in the lobby that went boom, boom, boom”? That must have been the boilers or something.

      • Paulchri

        New video being released shows debri shooting out the top of the building, and molten metal falling from it. It must have been a couch and some carpet on fire near a 1″ metal beam. Just because these buildings are built with fire resistant coating on the beams and sheet rock doesn’t mean that the furniture can’t do it.

        • Anonymous

          You’re not going to like this. When the WTC was being built, they started using asbestos as fire protection. Shortly after starting they had to change to another less effective fire retardant (I think 23rd floor, can’t remember the specific and no time to look it up now) So the upper floors used inferior fire protection (not that it would have changed the out come, but it might have delayed the collapse.
          I remember watching this all happen, the first second of the fall, I thought it was the facade or outer layer of the building peeling off and though that was great because all the people trapped above would be able to have fresh air. I didn’t know the facade was the support.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/MOWTWXGLDHXAF5B6ZB4AEZNMQA Tim

    The judge shows that he has a critical flaw in his mind. He is worthless now in my opinion. I tend to be old fashion in the thought, that a man can say intelligent things 90% of the time, but if tells me the other ten percent about how Elvis is alive and working a Circle K in Nevada, he’s nuts.

    • Anonymous

      You have never had nor will you ever had a single whacko thought??!

  • Cheryl~

    I am surprised you didn’t know this!

  • Cheryl~

    I am surprised you didn’t know this!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PMLT5XN3DODARW4HIWZCBBS5YA Mickey

    What’s all the noise about? We clearly know this building was brought down by a missile launched from a Chinese SSBN,commanded by Marko Ramius, laying off Long Island on 9/11.

    • http://geopolicy.wordpress.com Tony

      O_o

      lol

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=770715455 Daniel Tumser

      You and others are reading too much into his words. The Judge never asserted any cause, government or not, for the collapse of building 7. All the Judge said was that he doesn’t trust the government to give people the whole truth about life changing events which are supposed to be prevented by their vigilance.

      The judge’s point is that you can’t truth the government to now lie to you, and he’s right on that point.

  • Formulaforfun

    I guess the judge has grown tired of seeing his face on FOX news.Oh well,there’s always satellite radio,the island of misfit broadcasters.

  • Anonymous

    you forgot to mention he also thinks “W” should be brought up for war crimes. I don’t watch him anymore

    • Paulchri

      I take it you don’t.

  • http://geopolicy.wordpress.com Tony

    ANYBODY who gives Alex Jones two seconds of time, thoughts, concentration lowers themselves to the gutter of public dialogue.

    now i feel better… :)

  • http://twitter.com/TJexcite Trevor Johansen

    Just by the tittle of his book “Lies the government told you” just sounds just like a truther book. But where they get in trouble is when they say lie and automatically think conspiracy with malice intent when in reality it is just incompetence and stupidly and then trying to cover that incompetence with stupid actions of not telling that it was incompetence and stupidly that made then try to cover.

    We are still waiting for the wiklileak docs showing how 9-11 was done. If it was so convoluted than it should be easy to find some trace somewhere. If they can get 250,000 reports, 1 to 10 should not be all that hard. That is if it was really a inside job. But they (the truthers) should of just faked the documents to show that their inside job fake was real.

  • Anonymous

    911 is just too big a haystack for me to bother, however I don’t think truthers should be called evil or anti-american after barely listening to a word they said. Let them chase their hobby and hold their protests, freedom of speech.

    • Cheryl~

      You know if it were my relatives or friends that JUMPED out of those buildings I would want to know the truth…and we should be free to quesion our government and though sad…we should get the truth but on this topic those that MISTRUST the government for just about everything else suddenly BELIEVE them…America abandoned the so called TRUTH along time ago!

  • Anonymous

    Goodbye, judge. You’ve officially joined the ranks of the unhinged.

    • http://twitter.com/MooseOfReason MooseOfReason

      Why is he unhinged?

  • http://twitter.com/MooseOfReason MooseOfReason

    This is a non-story. Judge Napolitano supported going after Bin Laden. He wants to prosecute KSM, the mastermind behind the 9/11 plot, in New York (which people disagree with). He’s not a truther.

  • Anonymous

    We are told by great men to question everything, even the existence of god. I don’t think 9/11 was an inside job, I don’t know if that’s what the Judge is implying.

    But saying it didn’t go down exactly like the government says is not that crazy, totally trusting the government is definitely crazier.

    If they concede that the terrorists were obviously plotting an attack, taking flying lessons, hijacking planes and flying them into the WTC and the pentagon–then they’ve come further than where they were. If they’re only focusing on building 7, that’s progress IMO. I haven’t heard much about that building, I’ve only heard about the twin towers. I do not see why our government would blow up one of our own buildings with Americans in it. Furthermore, I don’t see how they could get away with it. Nixon couldn’t even even break into a hotel without being caught, and he’s known as the sneakiest president in recent history. Someone would have came out and said they at least heard from someone involved with 9/11. Yet no one has said a word about it? Doesn’t make sense.

  • Anonymous

    Ugh not on Alex Jones!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=770715455 Daniel Tumser

      Beware the temptation of guilt by association.

    • Paulchri

      If you watched Alex Jones every day, you would hear from a lot of politicians, architects, engineers, witnesses, watchdogs, ex-CIA and FBI, ex-secretaries of defense and presidential administration guys, video clips of BBC reporting building seven as collapsed 1/2 hr before it did with the building in the background, people working in the buildings telling their stories, etc. He has done more comprehensive investigations than the 911 commissioners. The same people say that they commission didn’t want to hear their vital testimonies, while massive amounts of video of rescue personnel testimonies was kept from the public until recently. I’m sure firefighter and police testimonies are somehow a matter of national security. Everything else is.

      • Anonymous

        You assume I haven’t. He’s a crackpot as are most of the so-called Truthers. It won’t matter if there is a full scale investigation launched cause you people will never let it go.

        • Paulchri

          Not until they make the facts known that make sense, and quit lying about it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joshua-Dodd/100000577741743 Joshua Dodd

          From your comments, you are acting just like a progressive and their is no objective reasoning in your analysis, just simple mindless name calling. BTW, as a libertarian, I find your trust in the government to be disturbing. Instead of calling people names like a “crackpot”, why don’t you actually research the side of the issue you disagree and find the flaws with it by comparing what each side has made claims too. BTW, Jones actually uses sources such as FOX and all other lamestream media outlets for the info he speaks about, I know because if you actually watch his telecast, he shows you the articles.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joshua-Dodd/100000577741743 Joshua Dodd

          From your comments, you are acting just like a progressive and their is no objective reasoning in your analysis, just simple mindless name calling. BTW, as a libertarian, I find your trust in the government to be disturbing. Instead of calling people names like a “crackpot”, why don’t you actually research the side of the issue you disagree and find the flaws with it by comparing what each side has made claims too. BTW, Jones actually uses sources such as FOX and all other lamestream media outlets for the info he speaks about, I know because if you actually watch his telecast, he shows you the articles.

          • Anonymous

            No you talk like a typical Truther that has bought the hype. And you are assuming (you guys do that alot) that I have not done the research. I actually used to think there was something to it. But the more I looked at both the so-called proof and the resulting debunking, I realized it was bogus. And even Jones gets it right every once in awhile probably when he does use Fox stuff.

            There is NOTHING in anything I post that even closely resembles a progressive, which was mindless name calling on your part. I don’t trust the government, I just don’t think they are capable of doing this. So you must think they are smarter than I do.

          • Anonymous

            No you talk like a typical Truther that has bought the hype. And you are assuming (you guys do that alot) that I have not done the research. I actually used to think there was something to it. But the more I looked at both the so-called proof and the resulting debunking, I realized it was bogus. And even Jones gets it right every once in awhile probably when he does use Fox stuff.

            There is NOTHING in anything I post that even closely resembles a progressive, which was mindless name calling on your part. I don’t trust the government, I just don’t think they are capable of doing this. So you must think they are smarter than I do.

  • Tyler

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. When did the word “truth” become associated with something bad? The original “truthers” are people like myself and apparently Napolitano here who just simply don’t believe the official story. I actually think it’s funny that Rivera is just now talking about the 1,300+ architects when this was something talked about years and years ago and everyone was like “Yeah…whatever, TRUTHERS.”

    I’ve also said this before. I don’t really care about the 9/11 conspiracy anymore because I believe there were things left out and the public will never know about all of them AT LEAST until those of us who were alive during that time are all long dead and gone. That’s just the truth of the matter…period.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000220027383 Troy La Mana

    I have always been with the 9/11 Truthers on this one fact: The investigation wasn’t a complete one and hasn’t answered to my satisfaction the questions that are out there. I don’t think thermite should have been detected anywhere near the buildings and it has.

  • Extremely Right

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=770715455 Daniel Tumser

      Carl Sagan is my hero.

  • Mikemorrison281

    I’ve said this before, I believe that in most downtown metro cities most of the huge skyscrapers are already rigged for implosion for just this type of scenario…bomb, earthquake, etc…I think they brought it down on purpose to stop a domino effect from happening. They can never admit it or they’d be inviting terrorists that are already here from trying to blow these buildings up on their own with our own explosives AND they’d cause a massive uproar in our society at this point…they’ve lied about it so long there’d be no recovering from it.

    I do not believe it was an inside job–like they WANTED to bring the towers or bldg 7 down, it was just a reaction to a terrible scenario that they made provision for maybe 10-40 years ago. No way to know for sure.

  • Gskoch

    “never looked into it” yourself but of course those who have are “wackos” right?

  • Joe the Cop

    You folks might want to track down and read Charles R. Pellegrino’s GHOSTS OF VESUVIUS re: downblast and WTC7.

  • Greg

    If you took a poll from those that have investigated building 7 for themselves, given that as true, you would have a super majority stating the same thing the judge did.

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