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Judge Jeanine gave another great monologue tonight, this time aimed at the government for its spy programs, programs she says are chipping away at our fourth amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure. This is something of which she says “everybody needs to care.”

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  • mrterry50

    Obama has kept his promise to “fundamentally change America.”  It has changed into a police state.

    • Orangeone

      mrterry50 And now that the leaks are out, it’s time to go after the data he collected on John Roberts.

      • Garym1

        Orangeone   Heh! Must be something bad.

        • Orangeone

          Garym1 Orangeone I hope it gets leaked.  We must all know what he is trying to hide, especially after what he did to us.

      • K-Bob

        Orangeone mrterry50 I don’t know.  Maybe it’s more like that poison that Baron Harkonnen used, where you have to get the antidote every day to survive.  Roberts did have that seizure a while back.
        (*rustling in my bag to find my tinfoil hat*)

        • Orangeone

          K-Bob Orangeone mrterry50 If it is, he must have gotten his hands on a few days’ supply (LOL).  Thought that destruction of marriage ruling was due out and it still hasn’t dropped to distract from the massive scandals.

        • https://sites.google.com/site/warpminesblog/ warpmine

          K-Bob Orangeone mrterry50 Has anyone seen him with a cat lately? The entire SCOTUS is a disgrace for allowing this usurper to act as President anyway. The Republic is on life support with Obama having Sebelius pull the plug.

        • K-Bob

          warpmine K-Bob Orangeone mrterry50 May as well pull ‘er then.  Drain the swamp.

  • Orangeone

    This is why Obama said he needed another 4 years.

    • https://sites.google.com/site/warpminesblog/ warpmine

      Orangeone Needs another four years alright….at the rock pile.

  • KenCooper

    Judge Jenine supports the PATRIOT ACT, and yet she complains. Is she really that stupid to know she supports the Act that provides for these provisions?

    • grams42

      KenCooper 
      don’t know are your that stupid do you enjoy our New America?

      • KenCooper

        Are you that stupid to not understand what the USA PATRIOT Act authorizes. You are just as dumb as Judge Jeanine. You, are the one who embraces this new America. And wearing your graduation cap confirms your youth and ignorance. Grow up, and come back to the table in 30 years.

        • Garym1

          KenCooper  Whats with the name calling a-hole?

        • Garym1

          jasonsanabria12  Just trying to prove a point.

        • Orangeone

          KenCooper Cite the chapter and verse.

        • tinlizzieowner

          Orangeone KenCooper  
          Looks like we are going to have to add the Judge to the names like Palin, Hannity Coulter, Limbaugh, Brieitbart and Levin, that brings the ‘one post wonders’ running out from under the fridge, huh Orangeone. ;-) ;-)

        • Orangeone

          tinlizzieowner Orangeone KenCooper Yup!  The worthless idiots that are unworthy of tying her shoes.

        • grams42

          KenCooper I am very angered at the New America, we were once powerful, the lies in Washington make us look horrible. We should get rid of them all and start anew, with people who actually care about our Country, and thanks for thinking I am young but i am far from ignorant! I was around when Kennedy was killed, I was around during Vietnam and had family in that war, the Korean WAr WWII, Iraqi, and Afghanistan, so back off and be careful who you are calling ignorant and stupid!

        • JeffWRidge

          jimmyinoregon grams42 KenCooper Actually Ken started it by asking if Judge Pirro was stupid in his original post. When a person starts throwing around that kind of language, someone else is likely to throw some of it back in their direction.

        • KenCooper

          JeffWRidge jimmyinoregon grams42 I’m guilty as charged, and I apologize for calling someone else stupid, and so many taking it as if I called them stupid. Discernment is lacking in America.
          http://goo.gl/z53oF

        • JeffWRidge

          KenCooper JeffWRidge jimmyinoregon grams42 I don’t recall anyone stating that they took your comment about Pirro personally. My point was straightforward enough; once you introduce such language into a conversation someone else will use it against you. Furthermore, I was merely pointing out that Jimmy was mistaken to state that “grams42″ started the name-calling.
          As for your link; thank you, but I am not interested debating in Dr. Paul. I have read enough about him to consider his views on domestic policy to be excellent, and his views on foreign policy to be frightening. However, this article is not about Dr. Paul and I have no desire to debate his views here. Another time maybe.

        • JeffWRidge

          jimmyinoregon grams42 KenCooper My point was simple; once you introduce insulting language into a conversation, then someone else can feel free to use it against you. Questioning whether Pirro is stupid is a personal attack, even if Pirro isn’t here to read it. Pirro not being here to defend herself doesn’t mean that other people won’t defend her. Again, if someone is going to be insulting, to anyone else, then another person can feel free to insult them. It’s that simple. 
          I rewatched the video and I couldn’t find where she said that what is going on was fine under Bush, a Republican, but was bad under Obama, a Democrat. She did say that the government doesn’t need to collect data on Americans and their phone calls in order to fight terrorism. She also stated that they should have probable cause to gather such data. 
          Does the Patriot Act allow the government to gather that kind of data? If so, where does it say that in the law? Another person has posted on this thread that the offending, anti-constitutional language in the Patriot Act is to be found in section 215. I found that section and posted it here in another comment. Can you tell me if that section allows for such activity by our government and point out which part of the text does so?

        • KenCooper

          JeffWRidge jimmyinoregon grams42 I know trying to read this thread can be difficult when the ‘Reply’ button is not used under the author. That said, I used the stupid word in reference to the judge. grams42 then called me stupid, so I returned the favor. grams42 made a personal attack on me, and if the Judge enters this conversation then the same can be said about me. 
          As to Dr. Paul, I have no intention of debating your views of him. I do however agree with his foreign policy as much as his domestic one. If this electorate knew history, and could learn the meaning of blowback, we would automatically be a safer country. I’m sure when you disgarded Dr. Paul’s foreign policy, you already knew about blowback, and don’t believe any of it.

        • KenCooper

          JeffWRidge jimmyinoregon grams42 The PA is open for interpretation. That’s the danger. 
          http://the-free-foundation.org/tst6-10-2013.html

        • JeffWRidge

          KenCooper grams42 I realize that you were referring to the judge when you made your comment. I just think that if you avoid using such language then other people have no excuse to use it on you. Of course once they do attack you, then you can cut loose on them and I’ll enjoy reading your comebacks. 
          As for blowback, what blowback are you talking about? Blowback from whom and for what? 
          Let’s use Islam for an example. I don’t happen to believe that we caused any blowback from them. We did not start the fight with Muslims. The Barbary States began attacking U.S. shipping shortly after the American Revolution. We didn’t even have a navy.  When confronted about it, the Barbary ambassador to the French stated that they reserved the right to attack any non-Muslim ships. They demanded that we pay them “tribute” in order for them to stop attacking us. 
          They don’t attack us because of anything we have done. They attack us because we’re not Muslims.

        • JeffWRidge

          KenCooper  I’ve been asking how the Patriot Act allows for the government to do what it is doing. I have asked for chapter and verse of the law that does this. So far one person has claimed that section 215 allows for unconstitutional activity. I posted the exact text to section 215 here on this thread. 
          Now someone needs to tell me how that section allows the government to violate the Constitution. If is isn’t that section, then where in the law does it do what you are claiming? 
          The article you linked does not answer my question. All the article does is make the same claims I’ve heard for years now. Please show me how the Patriot Act allows the government to do what it is doing. Show me the precise text and explain to me how that text allows for warrantless wiretaps and so on. 
          I’ve heard the claims, now I would like to see some proof. Thank you.

        • KenCooper

          JeffWRidge grams42 I know how you feel about Ron Paul, but I’m not going to try and reinvent the wheel. Ron Paul has studied foreign policy for decades, and is the champion of our U.S. Constitution. This is a video done on his behalf to explain your misunderstanding.

        • KenCooper

          JeffWRidge A google search provides a plethora of links on the subject. I’ll drop two of them for your reading pleasure.

          http://www.dailypaul.com/180519/federal-judge-parts-of-patriot-act-violate-4th-amendment
          http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fourth_amendment

        • JeffWRidge

          KenCooper Correct me if I’m wrong, but if a federal court found that specific elements of the Patriot Act are unconstitutional, and the government did not appeal, then wouldn’t those parts of the law be stricken from the law? I believe that is how it works. As long as there is a severability clause included in legislation, then parts of it found to be unconstitutional are removed, while the rest of the law continues to be law. 
          So if the courts already found parts of the law unconstitutional, then those parts of the law are no longer law. If they are no longer part of the law, then they cannot be the Obama Administration’s justification for spying on American citizens. Therefore those parts of the Patriot Act have nothing to do with the current scandal.

    • JeffWRidge

      How does the Patriot Act provide for such provisions? I’ve heard for a decade now that the Patriot Act allows for all kinds of unconstitutional activity by the government, but when I ask the people making those claims for the precise text that allows for that unconstitutional activity and where in the law one might find that text, I never get a straight answer. They either say, “read the law,” or all I hear is crickets.
      Perhaps you can be the one who can give me the exact text of the law that allows for the government to do all of this stuff. Please include where I can find this text in the Patriot Act. Thank you in advance.

      • Garym1

        JeffWRidge  Its usually Ron Paulians that whine the loudest over the Patriot Act. When you point out that it was meant to be limited in scope and that it sunsets they resort to gibberish and call you a neocon.

        • JeffWRidge

          Garym1 JeffWRidge I love your avatar. I was just getting ready to see how many pan galactic gargle blasters I had to drink until I actually enjoy Vogon poetry.

        • Orangeone

          Garym1 JeffWRidge PaulBots and Liberal-Lites.  And they are the first to run under the table and hide when the word Terrorism is mentioned.

        • Garym1

          JeffWRidge  If you drink enough to find out the meaning of 42, let me know. : )

        • JeffWRidge

          Garym1 JeffWRidge I may never find out. My cups keep melting.

        • K-Bob

          JeffWRidgeGarym1See http://therightscoop.com/chris-matthews-obama-is-clean-as-a-whistle-so-why-do-people-think-hes-evil/#lf_comment=78816748.  It’s pretty much like Vogon poetry, although not quite in the same class as Paul Neil Milne Johnstone.

      • luckycat76

        One of then-Attorney General Ashcroft’s staff working on the Patriot Act was Kris Kobach, whom I supported in his successful run for KS Secretary of State. At the time he was also a professor of law at University of Missouri, Kansas City. I asked him directly if the Patriot Act was unconstitutional. He replied that they had taken extra care to keep it in constitutional limits. It’s obvious that this administration has gone way beyond the limits in the original act.

      • Pyrran

        JeffWRidge Section 215.  Look it up.

        • Orangeone

          PyrranJeffWRidge”that the order is “for an authorized investigation . . . to protect
          against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities”  That does not mean that the gov’t can demand all cell phone, credit card records, emails, etc.  There is no proof that my cell phone records protect this country from international terrorism. And where is the authorized investigation? The gov’t is already on record that seizing all of our records was an “oops”.  Try again.

        • JeffWRidge

          Pyrran JeffWRidge Ok, Section 215. In the copy of the law that I found online that section reads as follows: 
          “SEC. 215. ACCESS TO RECORDS AND OTHER ITEMS UNDER THE FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE ACT.
          Title V of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1861 et seq.) is amended by striking sections 501 through 503 and inserting the following:

          `SEC. 501. ACCESS TO CERTAIN BUSINESS RECORDS FOR FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE AND INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM INVESTIGATIONS.
          `(a)(1) The Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation or a designee of the Director (whose rank shall be no lower than Assistant Special Agent in Charge) may make an application for an order requiring the production of any tangible things (including books, records, papers, documents, and other items) for an investigation to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, provided that such investigation of a United States person is not conducted solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution.

          `(2) An investigation conducted under this section shall–

          `(A) be conducted under guidelines approved by the Attorney General under Executive Order 12333 (or a successor order); and 
          `(B) not be conducted of a United States person solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States. 
          `(b) Each application under this section–

          `(1) shall be made to– 
          `(A) a judge of the court established by section 103(a); or 
          `(B) a United States Magistrate Judge under chapter 43 of title 28, United States Code, who is publicly designated by the Chief Justice of the United States to have the power to hear applications and grant orders for the production of tangible things under this section on behalf of a judge of that court; and 
          `(2) shall specify that the records concerned are sought for an authorized investigation conducted in accordance with subsection (a)(2) to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities.
          `(c)(1) Upon an application made pursuant to this section, the judge shall enter an ex parte order as requested, or as modified, approving the release of records if the judge finds that the application meets the requirements of this section.

          `(2) An order under this subsection shall not disclose that it is issued for purposes of an investigation described in subsection (a).

          `(d) No person shall disclose to any other person (other than those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible things under this section.

          `(e) A person who, in good faith, produces tangible things under an order pursuant to this section shall not be liable to any other person for such production. Such production shall not be deemed to constitute a waiver of any privilege in any other proceeding or context.

          `SEC. 502. CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT.
          `(a) On a semiannual basis, the Attorney General shall fully inform the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives and the Select Committee on Intelligence of the Senate concerning all requests for the production of tangible things under section 402.

          `(b) On a semiannual basis, the Attorney General shall provide to the Committees on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and the Senate a report setting forth with respect to the preceding 6-month period–

          `(1) the total number of applications made for orders approving requests for the production of tangible things under section 402; and 
          `(2) the total number of such orders either granted, modified, or denied.” 

          Now, since I’m not a lawyer, could you please explain to me how this section of the law infringes on our Constitutional rights?

        • Orangeone

          JeffWRidge Pyrran Are you under investigation for international terrorism?  If you answer yes then your constitutional rights are not infringed.  If you answer no, then they are.

        • JeffWRidge

          Orangeone JeffWRidge Pyrran I just want someone to explain to me how this section of the law does infringe on anyone’s rights. I don’t see it, but I could be missing something. I’m willing to be educated.

        • JeffWRidge

          Orangeone Pyrran JeffWRidge That’s how I read that section too.

        • Orangeone

          JeffWRidge You’ve got it.  Obama is using the Patriot Act as “cover” his “reasoning” when in fact it does not apply.  He wants the information and has illegally used the office of potus to seize it.  No one tells the Chicago thug no.  I have to wonder if he is using physical threats.

        • grams42

          Orangeone JeffWRidge What do you think? The mob never left they just got bigger and

      • hateobamacare

        JeffWRidge  try this link if you want to read the text of the law.

        http://epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

        • JeffWRidge

          hateobamacare  Thank you. I already found the text of the Patriot Act itself. Now I need someone to tell me how the law allows the government to do what it is doing. Another person stated that section 215 of the law grants such power to the government. 
          I posted the text of section 215 earlier and requested that someone, anyone, explain to me how that text allows for the government to violate the U.S. Constitution. I have read the text and I just don’t see it. Can someone please walk me through it and show me how it allows for what the government is doing? 
          I’m serious. Educate me.

    • 99FtGrl

      KenCooper can you spell sarcasm?

    • KenDavidson

      KenCooper That simply is not true.  No one envisioned that EVERY phone call and EVERY email and EVERY facebook post would be monitored by the government when the Patriot Act was created.  That is why they created the FISA court, for oversight.  Apparently that is not working

      • Orangeone

        KenDavidson KenCooper You are correct and the author is in full agreement that what Obama is doing is unconstitutional.

      • KenCooper

        KenDavidson I hope this teaches you a lesson. “You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered.” -Lyndon B. Johnson
        The next time you pass judgement on a bill in Congress, review that quote. Now that you have been informed, and how to think forward, you are responsible for your actions.

        • KenDavidson

          KenCooper KenDavidson I did not support the Patriot Act because I thought, even with the safeguards, it was too broad.  This is way beyond that.

    • DCGere

      Under Bush the admin wasn’t sharing credit card, bank, and credit agency info. It is happening now, happened to my boyfriend. The government took it upon themselves to start sharing his personal & private accounts, voting info., and address info with other government and private agencies, without his knowledge. Until now, as we now understand why it is happening.

      • grams42

        DCGere I went to a new physician this week one of the forms read “The Government Requires us to get this information” I wrote “its not of their business, last I knew we were a free country and they can kiss my ass .

    • Orangeone

      KenCooper The Patriot Act does not provide for survellience on American citizens.  Please cite chapter and verse where it does.  BTW, It Jeanine

    • Joni58

      KenCooper Actually, the Patriot Act was to target not all the Americans, but specific people and companies and countries of interest.  What is happening currently is way over stepping the Patriot Act.  It is not that people are against the Act, they are against what this particular administration does with information, ie; target who they consider their enemies.  Not terrorists, but regular Americans that have differing opinions than they do.  And you criticized grams for her cap and gown, but you misspelled the judges name.  She is a very smart woman.  I don’t think she ever lost a case as a prosecutor. So, I do not believe the Patriot Act provides for the provisions that this administration intends to use the information for.  We all should be concerned.  Abuse of power.

      • KenCooper

        Joni58 I’m so sorry that I misspelled a word, and that you found that somehow so damn important to focus on, instead of the topic of discussion. I’m sure you would be a great person to solve problems, especially spelling problems. Maybe you could be a spelling teacher when you grow up. I’m sure you wore a cap and gown when you graduated, but probably can’t figure out how to include it in your profile. Keep checking the spelling on the Internet, and make every effort to inform those who inappropriately excluded a letter, making it so difficult to understand what the person was trying to convey, that you really did know, but felt it important to let them know how accurate you are. Keep embracing the USA PATRIOT Act, you deserve it, and the hell that follows…NDAA, CISPA, etc.

        • doofuschmartz

          KC, I realize that there is a real divide over the provisions of the Patriot Act…It’s true intentions, as Sensenbrenner and Co. intended vs. what it has morphed into as a result of the overreach of the Obama (and possibly the Bush) Justice Departments. Snarky comments and unnecessary attacks about spelling aside, I believe emotions run high concerning the issue of the PA because so many people, myself included, feel incredibly betrayed and disillusioned. We were so paralyzed with fear and motivated by a need for retaliation and justice after 9/11 that we (at least I) didn’t think past the Bush Administration. I don’t think I was alone either. As I mentioned in a previous post, only one Democratic Senator (now former Dem. Feingold of Wis), voted against it. Moreover, the vast majority of Americans were for it too. The much maligned Paulbots, as people call them, were viciously shouted down, and I will admit to my share of the shouting. Fast forward to 2013, and now you have Sensenbrenner himself with regrets over the holes that were crafted into the PA document that left Americans wide open for potential abuses. Sadly, you now have many Americans still clinging to the idea that the PA cannot be interpreted loosely to include all Americans. But, I came to the realization that if one man can write a law, there’s a VERY GOOD CHANCE that the next guy to come along will find a loophole to exploit it…when in the history of our country has that not happened???

        • KenCooper

          doofuschmartz I do get emotional when dealing with uninformed people who vote. I take the safety and security of this country seriously, and served this country in the U.S. Marines. The “Paulbots” (a snarky name) are usually the most informed, intelligent people you could ever know. Most of them know history and can discern when our liberty is threatened. I leave you with this quote, and I hope you memorize it, and share it with anyone who didn’t vote for Congressman Ron Paul.
          “You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered.” – http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/lyndon_b_johnson.html

        • doofuschmartz

          LOL…I suppose even an inveterate racist like LBJ could have flashes of brilliance at times. (Maybe it was because he was a Texan…LOL..). All kidding aside, I have to admit that I have gained a deeper appreciation for our Congressman Paul with the onslaught of these scandals all coming to light, than ever before. I am a relative newcomer to this site, but found myself under attack almost immediately because I came to the defense of Ron Paul, who had been labelled as “cuckoo.” While I am not a staunch Ron Paulite, I find myself in agreement with more and more of what he has always stood for and against, since day one of his entry into politics. Unlike most politicians, he has not backed down because of polls nor has he allowed himself to be bought off by political lobbyists. I have to admit that I too had to do a very shamefaced backing off of terrible aspersions that I cast against Congressman Paul’s character before I actually knew the facts about him. The worst being his denunciation of us going to war in the ME…turns out he was right on that. But you couldn’t have convinced me of that when my teenage son(who IS a staunch Paul supporter) and I nearly came to blows over it back in 2003. After all I was the Gulf Storm Vet. What did my snot-nosed kid, not even old enough to vote know? Turns out…more than me…So, I guess what I’m hoping is that maybe enough people will realize, like me, that what people like you, Congressman Paul, and even Old LBJ, have been saying about sacrificing even an ounce of liberty and privacy for a ton of security is just not worth it…but its gonna take a long, hard fight…the battle is not for the faint of heart…

    • DCGere

      BTW, my boyfriend is a white, Catholic, conservative male with 18 years in the Army. He’s currently serving in the sandbox. Coincidence?

      • Orangeone

        DCGere Not a coincidence, he fits the criteria for an exact target of intrusion and intimidation.

    • DCGere

      One last piece of info for you: My boyfriend was on duty at a major military comm center when Benghazi went down. The upper deck blacked out ALL tvs and computers that day as the attack went down. Coincidence?

    • K-Bob

      KenCooper barack’s serial pretadion on the Amrican populace is based on radical distortion of every instrument of the government that Congress authorized.  Whatever barack is doing now has NOTHING to do with what congress passed.  Only the most doggedly loyal barack-o-philes insist that he’s only doing what the law allows.
      We have no law.  Not since he decided to abrogate the entire basis for it.

      • KenCooper

        K-Bob The SCOTUS will make that determination. In the meantime, Barack has plenty of avenues to use as a crutch to gather intelligence. After the fact of his action has no satisfaction to us.

      • K-Bob

        KenCooper I really wish LiveFyre had bigger font in their Rich Text Edit window.  Look at all ‘a them typos!

  • badbadlibs

    That woman is courageous, awesome and smart as a whip! I look forward to her show each week. Nothing is getting past her, hope someone has her back.

    • https://sites.google.com/site/warpminesblog/ warpmine

      badbadlibs Surprised, Fox hadn’t fired her yet.

      • doofuschmartz

        Rupie’s “Rockstar” will undoubtedly make the suggestion when the rhetoric gets heated enough…

  • JeffWRidge

    I don’t recognize America today. The United States has changed so much since I was a kid that I have a hard time considering this the same country. 
    Once upon a time the very thought of our government spying on journalists and average citizens would have had the majority of Americans outraged and demanding impeachments and prosecutions of all involved. The IRS targeting citizens based on political leanings would have had the same effect. Nothing being done to protect U.S. diplomats and a cover up of what happened would have angered most Americans. The Attorney General arming foreign criminals would have caused an uproar in times past. 
    Now, a lot of people yawn as if it doesn’t matter. No, I do not recognize this nation.

  • luckycat76

    Judge Pirro is hardly “stupid,” even if you may disagree with her on the Patriot Act. As an attorney and judge, I’m sure she knows what it contains.
    Other supporters of the Patriot Act include constitutional attorney and radio host Mark Levin, and former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy. One may disagree with their assessments, but they are hardly “stupid.”

    • KenCooper

      luckycat76 You’re right of course. Substitute “stupid” with ignorant.

      • luckycat76

        That’s not totally accurate either. “Ignorant” means to be totally unaware of the PA. She is not, nor are the others I named previously (Levin, McCarthy, Kobach). You seem to think that if she is smart, or aware, she must agree with you. Not so.

        • KenCooper

          luckycat76 You can be aware of something, and yet not know everything about that something. That is being ignorant.

  • gambz1964

    I am curious as to her level of outrage from 2001-early 2009. IF she was just as offended then, then I will be quiet and listen.

    • luckycat76

      She has a Facebook page. Why don’t you ask her if she was “outraged” at whatever it was you think should have angered her.

    • doofuschmartz

      gambz64, you have a VERY GOOD POINT! When Bush 43 started this stuff in 2001, every single American should have had their hackles up as high as the conservatives have theirs up now. I am as fundamentalist right-wing conservative as you can get and I am having to eat a very large serving of humble pie right now because my son who wasn’t even old enough to vote at that time warned me of the ramifications of the roving wire taps, etc…that the Bush justice department wanted to track down terrorists. I didn’t pay attention or listen. After all, what can a kid tell his parents, hmm? Fast forward, and look and the monster we have allowed that incursion to become. There was, at the time of the creation of that bill to allow such executive and judicial compromise of our fourth amendment right, only one, that’s right, just ONE, now former Senator, who said NO. A Democrat, Russ Feingold from Wisconsin. Talk about a voice crying in the wilderness…I am ashamed to say that I too was willing to sacrifice my right of freedom for a little increased security…yeah, RIGHT! I don’t know if your criticism is of Bush alone or of both Administrations, but you are quite correct in placing responsibility for this monumental outrage as much at the feet of GWB as at Obama’s. He has just taken it too a whole new level of spying…Big Brother has finally arrived…better set another place for him…

      • grams42

        doofuschmartz the only good part that did come out of this was there were some terrorists that were found by the wire tapping here in California and that I know for a fact, I only wished they would have been hung by there feet and we all been allowed to beat them and dragged through the streets as they did our people in Iraq.

      • https://sites.google.com/site/warpminesblog/ warpmine

        doofuschmartz The easiest thing to do toward solving the problem if Muslim Terrorists would be to sen them all back from where they came. Their faith in a cult is total alien towards the Liberty brought fourth by the Founders. None of this would be necessary if the government had an ounce of sense. 
        Tin foil hat on now, I really think it was the plan from the beginning to have the enemy within the gates so that the govt cold slowly erode our Liberty. Hat off.

        • doofuschmartz

          “If only” must be the two most over-used words in the conservative vocabulary these days, warp. The only problem is, the Muslims that are here are not wanted “back where they came from” for obvious reasons. And for even more obvious reasons, they are wanted here by this administration so that Komrade Barry and his Marxist Brigands have a reason to spy on American citizens with absolute impunity. Muslims do not assimilate into a culture, they take over it. And unless we take real pro-active steps by voting against the mass immigration types (and I mean ALL of them), then we will have more Bostons and 9/11’s on our hands than we know what to do with.

        • https://sites.google.com/site/warpminesblog/ warpmine

          doofuschmartz “The only problem is, the Muslims that are here are not wanted “back where they came from” for obvious reasons.”
           Not so sure about that. About 10% maybe, the others are here only because they know we’re weak when it comes to an obvious Trojan horse. Again, they play at our emotions to refuges. In reality, non f them are unwanted refuges as they are all part of the cult of Islam in which all are subservient to Allah so are doomed to live under the boot.
          Even if it were economic reasons to come here, it’s still not out fault that their society is 7th century in nature, it’s theirs. To continue to afford them our freedom and think they’re going to miraculously convert to our thoughts and traditions is utter diehard stupidity. In  the end, we will never learn until someone such as myself is charged with straightening out this calamity.

        • Dr. Strangelove

          warpmine doofuschmartz No foil hat needed. This is what Kruschev meant when he said, “We will bury you.”

  • bahamianhoosier

    I watch Mad Men and listen to good ole stories from my parents (grandparents sadly gone) and I get so sad and angry that the USA they grew up in and pledged allegiance to the flag is gone and my children will never get to experience it. All the heads talking and saying how outraged they are and angry, if they do nothing concrete and just talk, then they are all as useless as talking toilet paper! SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!! If not before, then in Nov 2014. We must purge this cesspool of DC or our offspring will only read in books (not confiscated yet and burned) of how great we ONCE were!!

    • tinlizzieowner

      bahamianhoosier 
      “they are all as useless as talking toilet paper!”
      Now, there’s a visual for ya.
      “No!, No!, No1 Please don’t cover me with Obama, please!”
      ;-) ;-)

      • Orangeone

        tinlizzieowner bahamianhoosier Thankfully I am wise enough to keep beverages well away from my puter when I read your posts TLO :}

  • jedward1000

    America is listing and if many in DC do not grow some balls and get back to constitutional rule of law we are going to be in DEEP doo doo.

  • standbesideherUSA

    Do you suppose Obama is longing for the good old days when Joe Biden was his biggest embarrassment?

    • badbadlibs

      standbesideherUSA  comrade 0 hasn’t enough of a conscience to realize he’s under fire for anything he has done. I get the sickening feeling the more he is exposed the better he likes it. Look at what he did this week, he promoted the liar susan rice and nominated that wretched susan power as the U.N. ambassador. He stuck his ugly thumb in our eyes…again.

      • doofuschmartz

        I believe you are correct badlibs! In fact, I believe he is trying his hardest to push us all toward a revolution, for which he and his Marxist Statists are more than prepared. He has reorganized and (homo)genized the military, replacing all the old top generals with the hand-picked loyalist a**-kissers of his chosing. He has also heavily armed the DHS, and the IRS and had as many states as possible confiscate guns from people. Furthermore, he has effectively turned this country into an US vs THEM society. Never in my life can I remember people being so racially, socially, and gender sensitive. The tiniest unchecked remark sets off a civil war of words. Oh no, the Bamster wants revolution, he’s itching for an American Spring so that he can declare Marshall law, declare himself a totalitarian leader, reward his friends, shoot his enemies, then set himself up as the next Marxist dictator…no matter how bloody the revolution.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      standbesideherUSA Hey… where’s “Shotgun” Joe been lately, anyway?

      • standbesideherUSA

        Dr. Strangelove standbesideherUSA  
        …Holed up in a $500,000.00+ suite somewhere, no doubt….

  • tinlizzieowner

    Bush (R) Patriot Act = Bad. Obama (D) Patriot Act = Good.
    Bush (R) Drones = Bad. Obama (D) Drones = Good.
    Bush (R) ‘surge’ in Iraq = Bad. Obama (D) ‘surge’ in Afghanistan = Good.
    “Question Authority” (the mantra of the left in the 70’s), = Good. “Questioning the authority of the President is unpatriotic” (Quote Debbie Wasserman Schultz), = Bad.

    More situational hypocrisy at it’s finest.

    • PNWShan

      tinlizzieowner This is very simplistic thinking, that replaces facts with labels.
      Under Bush, phone surveillance consisted of tracking phone traffic between US numbers and numbers in areas where terrorists congregate, like certain areas of Pakistan and Yemen.
      Under Obama, EVERY SINGLE American phone line is tracked. Big difference.
      The facts are different, even though you used the same labels.

      • tinlizzieowner

        PNWShan tinlizzieowner 
        To the contrary. My thinking is obviously to complex. I’m not even addressing the policies. Let me make the sentences more complex so what I was getting at is more simple to comprehend.
        Bush (R) NSA tracking calls outside the US to ‘known’ terrorists. = Bad, according to the left.

        Obama (D) NSA ‘Data Mining’ phone calls of all Americans (supposedly) in an effort to locate ‘potential’ terrorists. = Good, according to the left. 

        Bush used Drones, the left went nuts because he was ‘murdering innocent civilians’. = Bad according to the left.

        Obama used drones (still killing innocent civilians) but Obama is ‘fighting terrorism’. = Good, according to the left. 
        I could go on to clarify my other examples but if you haven’t caught on to the HYPOCRISY of the left (I was demonstrating) by now, I would just be wasting my time.;-)

        • PhillyCon

          tinlizzieowner PNWShan Well done.  Even my apolitical relatives get it.  If one is not engrossed in reality TV, it’s in plain view to see.

        • doofuschmartz

          “IF” being the operative word of course…very salient point!

      • badbadlibs

        PNWShan Thank you for pointing out the vast difference between Pres. Bush and comrade ovomit. I had a modicum of trust with Pres. Bush’s administration, I do not have one single ounce of trust for the America hating comrade ovomit’s administration.
        Clapper lied thru his teeth to congress about this and yet he’s a free man this morning. When are these liars ever going to have to face the consequences you or I would have to face!!!!!!!!!! It’s getting more frustrating by the day.

    • PhillyCon

      tinlizzieowner Don’t forget Hillary’s famous:
      I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, “We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!”
      My, my how times have changed.

      • Orangeone

        PhillyCon tinlizzieowner Notice how Hitlay is MIA lately?

        • PhillyCon

          Orangeone PhillyCon tinlizzieowner She’s trying to salvage her poll numbers.

        • Orangeone

          PhillyCon Orangeone tinlizzieowner They are dropping faster than Obama’s scandals!

        • tinlizzieowner

          PhillyConOrangeonetinlizzieowner 
           “She’s trying to salvage her poll numbers.”
          BINGO! She’s a Clinton. Every time they get up to their butts in a bunch of krap (Rose Law Firm, ‘Monica-Gate’ etc.), they disappear for a while. You notice ‘BJ’ Billy Boy has been out and about lately.
          The sad state of affairs here is that Clinton looks like a ‘good’ President compared to the Chicago ‘Marxist’ in the White house now.
          Hillary will pop up out of her Fox Hole just after the 2014 elections. IF…. the American population doesn’t wise up and leaves the (scandal ridden) Democrats in control of the Senate.

        • PhillyCon

          tinlizzieowner PhillyCon Orangeone Clinton’s Arkansas machine is nothing compared to the Chicago way.
           Oops, we’re not supposed to say “chicago” just like we’re not supposed to say “IRS” anymore.

        • Orangeone

          PhillyContinlizzieownerOrangeoneChicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs Chicago Thugs 
          Is that enough to send me to the re-education camp?

      • Dr. Strangelove

        PhillyCon tinlizzieowner Didn’t Buckley say, “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views but then are shocked and offended to discover there are other views”?

    • PhillyCon

      tinlizzieowner Also, according to Chris Matthews “questioning authority”=racist.

      • Orangeone

        PhillyCon tinlizzieowner We have a list over at rednationrising.us

  • YoJoe

    Beware – There are TROLLS lurking about 
    You can tell by the amount of comments they have made – usually 1 or 2 —- and the language they use 
    Maybe it is the NSA generating and then gathering evidence!

    • K-Bob

      YoJoe Just flag ‘em.  Someone will be along with a push broom eventually.

      • YoJoe

        K-Bob
        will do

      • Orangeone

        K-Bob YoJoe And we thank you for that!  Just let us know when you need a new push broom, surely we can donate to the great cause :}

        • tinlizzieowner

          Orangeone K-Bob YoJoe  
          Just for the record, in case somebody doesn’t know it yet. Left wing sites track this site and other conservative sites. They post links to topics and encourage their readers to to post on them. When you see a liberal ‘one post wonder’ posting here, that’s what is usually going on.
          I used to do the same thing on liberal sites but the ‘free speech loving’ liberals usually just ban your IP (like they have mine), if you don’t march in lock step with their ‘agenda’.

  • edsmanedup

    There not going to put that “Jeanie” back in the bottle…be very afraid…

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    He got his flexibility.  The shame is on all of us. I agree Judge.

  • Dogman15

    Should be “founding fathers”, not “founding father’s”.

    • doofuschmartz

      Thank-you Merriam Webster…

      • Dr. Strangelove

        doofuschmartz The grammer (sic) police. They’re everywhere.

  • DarleneSelf

    She makes a lot of sense out of the mess we’re in (government wise).

  • yazz55

    Whilst the regime of the obamessiah is spying on its own citizens, its actively recruiting more replacement voters.
    Internet ads do vary by location.  And I’ve been living in northern Israel for 3 1/2 years and I see these ads regularly.
    http://html3.usagc.org/step1landing_eng.html?afk=SimGeneng

    The above link was at the bottom of this TRS page.  If you let it sit for a minute or so, you get a popup with live assistance.

    Hope you can see it.  It should infuriate you. Isn’t nice to see how US taxpayer $$$$$$ are being spent!

    • PVG

      yazz55 Thank you for your post. It does infuriate me. I copied your post and link and forwarded it on. I hope others are motivated to do the same. A Green Card Lottery?? I have no words!

    • badbadlibs

      yazz55 OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      “Shortly a representative will contact you. Please fill out the following information to help us serve you in the most efficient way!    Live & Work in USA – Participate in the Official US Green Card Lottery! 50.000 People Will Win a Lifetime Green Card to USA”
      If I forwarded this to my rep. in congress they would ignore it or get back to me saying it was their idea. I have no representation. :(

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ MadJack

      yazz55 The usagc site only submits your name to the Green Card lottery for a fee.  I have checked this and there is an official government site that does the same thing for free.  But it still does the same damn thing. Gives get into the USA free cards.  What a crock of shit.

      The official site– http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_1322.html

    • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

      yazz55 gee.  I had a sarcastic comment, but what’s the use.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      yazz55 Now that’s scary. I tried to get one, but when I looked for birth country, USA didn’t come up. I wonder if I told Julia (my live representative) I was from Kenya, wanted to go to Columbia, become a community organizer in Chicago and maybe run for office some day I could have gotten one.
      Julia, Julia… Why does that name ring a bell?

  • tina86

    I don’t recognize this country either. The government tracks us and everything we do, but could not stop the Boston bombers, and I personally don’t believe the lie that the spying has stopped any attacks, or the fact sheet Barack’s admin has released on PRISM.

    • badbadlibs

      tina86 I’m with you, Tina….I do not believe a single word that comes out of any of the mouths of this lawless administration. If they told me what time it was, I’d check my watch, your watch and a dozen others before I’d believe what they said.
      For all their blustering on having “saved” us from an attack, the one they were WARNED about got past them (Boston). They truly believe we are as stupid as they look. It’s infuriating.

  • comingapart

    Judge Jeanine is on target once more, she is great, and should be our next AG!

  • http://www.therightscoop.com/ MadJack

    “Our founding father’s wouldn’t even recognize the America of today ”

    Oh yes they would and they’d be Rebelling against it.

  • shadetree56

    give this lady bill o’s time slot. She rocks.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      shadetree56 As long as Bill O’Ratings is pulling in the ad revenue, he ain’t goin’ nowhere.

  • JamesJSpicer

    I agree with almost all of what she says except that she supports the patriot act, sorry that law was ill conceived and wrongheaded from day one. This is a perfect example of WHY. I dont know how anyone can still support the patriot act after it doing virtually NOTHING to prevent any terrorist attacks but instead has given the govt far overreaching powers.

  • taurnil

    You know it still amazes me just how far liberals, the media and the rest of lot will go so far to fall on their sword to protect and shield Obama from all this. If all this crap was going on with a Republican President there would be no limits to all the media investigations with a no holds bar intent to root out the truth. Neither would they have any qualms towards fixing blame squarely on said President.
    Sadly there are far to many people in our government and the media willing to trample the founding principles of our country to serve their own interests. It is shameful.
    As for the Patriot Act (its name is laughable) is concerned should be renamed to You No Longer Have Any Rights.

  • http://nation.foxnews.com/ americalsgt

    Seems like I went to bed with the notion that the top story was that the government was spying on us, and I wake up to find out that the government is all upset caused someone leaked the story that the government was secretly spying on us.  Which way the narrative goes on this could make all the difference in the lives of each and every citizen.

  • Who is calling?

    Does the United States Congress have the phones at the DOJ and in Erick Holders home and office tapped?

  • DarrellGriffin

    I saw Kristol this AM saying “you can’t conflate it”.
    One thing I see them getting a pass for is the concept that they can make stuff up about people (even reporters) and judge shop to acquire information on people to which they are not entitled.
    I’m supposed to believe that the same DOJ and courts are safe-guarding our electronic information ? How can you NOT conflate it ?
    Congressman Gowdy said it best, “You have to expect the listener to be as stupid as the talker to believe that.”

  • http://www.therightscoop.com/ MadJack

    And one more thing.  Damn the Patriot Act and the DHS.   Two big brother additions to our already overgrown government that should have never seen the light of day.  Like the IRS we will never be done with them.

  • http://nation.foxnews.com/ americalsgt

    I see hope for this country in the youth.  The Valedictorian’s mike was cut when he started to talk about the Constitution at a High School in TX.   Since Cane killed Able, children have disobeyed their parents.  It is a natural reaction for teenagers to disobey authority.  As the pendulum has swung so far to the left, hopefully, it will be my grandchildren who will swing it back to the right.

    • http://nation.foxnews.com/ americalsgt

      sorry folks Cain and Abel.

      • tinlizzieowner

        americalsgt
        “I see hope for this country in the youth”.
        Sarge, you just made a point I’ve been making for a long time. The young are born ‘anti-establishment’. Their purpose in life is to (as the libs used to say), is to question authority. “Why do I have to clean my room?” “Why do I have to be home at 10:00?” Why can’t I go get drunk when I’m 16?” You get the picture. 
        Since the 70’s, we have developed a culture of ‘do as you please, there are no consequences’. ‘Some’ of the youth is beginning to realize there ‘are’ consequences. Trying to find a job even with a college degree, with a ring in your nose, tattoos up to your ears and your pants hanging off your butt (except maybe in the ‘Rap Music industry), is getting harder and harder to find. 
        I too believe the pendulum is going to swing back to the right, the left is now ‘the establishment’. Will you or I live to see it? probably not.

        • Dr. Strangelove

          tinlizzieowner americalsgt I saw a bunch of people with tattoos and such yesterday with jobs. But then, I shopped at Walmart and went through the drive-thru at Micky D’s on the way home.

  • Skyshaker

    IRS,NSA, DOJ,  Obama, they seem to have use all covered.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9e3dTOJi0o

  • Orangeone

    Notice the order of the scandals. If this had broken first, how would America have reacted? They continue to de-sensitize us.  The IRS scandal leak was DELIBERATE from Lois Lerner herself. This has all been planned.

    • DarrellGriffin

      Orangeone 
      One does not have to burn the Reichstag down to create a “crisis of leadership”, if one is able to destroy the population’s faith in every dept. of government that is considered “neutral” and “unbiased”.
      Tax collector ? check
      Justice dept. ? check
      National security apparatus ? check
      Defame the US military with sex scandal ? check
      “Who are the people that are best positioned to end the chaos ? The ones who started it.”

    • tina86

      I doubt the NSA leaked was planned by Obama or his team. Which is why they are ramping up the fear mongering, to justify the illegal and unconstitutional activities by him. IMO the NSA leak shows Obama has crossed the wrong people.

      • Orangeone

        tina86 Only time will tell if one of his inside peeps leaked this for him. The sooner people get used to the intrusions, the better for him.  Look at how comfortable most became with $4/gallon gas.

  • DocBarry1

    Agree 100% and ryan, Rubio, Christie, jeb and the rest of the conservative frauds true colors are shown again

    • Orangeone

      DocBarry1 Don’t forget “use the drone to kill a robber stealing $50″ and “undocumented citizens” Rand Paul.

  • uncmetsgal

    You know, call me a nut, but I am starting to think that all the intrusion/information gathering/spying is the reason Republicans won’t stand up to it:  IE:  they have something(s) on our leaders.  Skeletons in Boehner’s, McConnell’s, Cantor’s, etc.. closets.  And they’re worried more about the damage to themselves and their careers than about the damage to our Constitution and Country.
    I certainly find it to be a more plausible explanation for all the silence than that every one of them is a yellow-bellied chicken.

    • kong1967

      uncmetsgal  I don’t know, but many of them are for this.  They are only looking at the positives it gives for locating terror cells.  Which I don’t understand because the data is useless without a target and a warrant to find out what phone calls are about.  If they have a known terrorist and want his contact list, they can get a warrant to get the phone call data….as was originally intended by the Patriot Act. 
      They aren’t thinking about how this can be abused.  Don’t need a warrant to see the contact list of a target Tea Party organizer.  Once they know the contacts, they know who to target.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      uncmetsgal You know, I’ve joked a few times about Justice Roberts’ Obamacare decision being influenced by the horse’s head he found in his bed. In all likelihood they’ve got something on him, like cheating on his wife… with boys. Or something on that order that would only enhance the resume of a prog.

  • kong1967

    I look forward to her monologues.
    They still have to get a warrant to listen in on calls from suspected terrorists, rendering the data useless beforehand.
    But, the data is not useless outside of the warrant.   They can get the contact list for political enemies.  “Ah, millionaire Joe is making phone calls to a Tea Party organizer.”  Target.  No warrant needed to go after him because it’s done outside the boundaries of the law and the Constitution.  Because if it’s done within the law, they need to go back and get a warrant to do it.  That negates the need for the dragnet.  If they have to get a warrant to use the data, don’t bother collecting it until you get a warrant on a case to case basis.
    This data can be used for political canvassing as well.  Don’t need a warrant for that.  Group targeting, with good intentions or bad.
    Does anyone trust this administration, after all the attacks he has launched on ordinary citizens and businesses using other agencies, that he will not abuse the data that they don’t need a warrant to look at and use?  No way.

  • Matt2Matt

    The Judge is great, but I don’t think an hour long program once a week is going to cut it at this point.  Where are Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell?

    • tinlizzieowner

      Matt2Matt  
      With any luck, watching her show. If they like being (pork barrel) ‘politicians’, their jobs could depend on it. ;-)

    • Orangeone

      Matt2Matt”Where are Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell?” Strategizing on giving tens of millions of illegal aliens amnesty, free health care, Americans’ job, our social security, our medicare, etc. in the dead of night.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    I love Judge Jeanine.  She’s my new pin-up model.

    • white531

      E Lee Zimmerman 
      She’s quite a girl. Quite a woman, for those of you who ascribe to being totally politically correct.  Not that I give a rat’s a##. What I mean by that, is she has a brain.  That she is also attractive, is just an added plus.
      I agree.  I love the girl.

  • standbesideherUSA

    WALKING away from our God, our Bibles, our Guns or the shredding of our Constitution when times get tough, is like WALKING away from our storm cellars DURING a TORNADO!
    ‘These are the times that try men’s souls.’
    We must STAND together against the DARK storm of CORRUPTION that is coming out of the White House.  
    We the People, have the power to hold those responsible, ACCOUNTABLE for the corruption of the values and principles of this nation that we have held so dear.
    If the PRESS won’t expose what is going on, WE the PEOPLE, MUST!  It is up to those of us, who understand what is happening to this nation, to WARN those who do not, and, who may NEVER hear the truth otherwise.
    God, please give US and CONGRESS the strength and courage to STAND and pull out this CORRUPTION by it’s roots.

    • white531

      standbesideherUSA  
      standbesideherUSA, I like the way you write. Always makes me feel good.  Can’t give you any better compliment than that.

      • standbesideherUSA

        white531 standbesideherUSA  
        Thank you.  I feel passionate about this country.  I want my children and grandchildren to have what I had……a childhood.

  • JohnDavidson1

    She is right as usual. I wonder why we even elect representatives anymore.

    • KenCooper

      JohnDavidson1 She is wrong on this one: http://the-free-foundation.org/tst6-10-2013.html

      • white531

        KenCooperJohnDavidson1 
        “The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.” – Ron Paul.
        Wisdom you simply can’t argue with.

    • KenCooper

      jimmyinoregon Not a real big deal here, but it is if you don’t know the difference. Our country is a REPUBLIC in which we live. We elect our representatives using a democratic method.

      • KenCooper

        jimmyinoregon A Republic, is not a Republican. The two are not synonymous. And neither is a Democracy and a Democrat. The former in both cases is a form of government, and the latter in both cases are political parties. 
        The pledge of allegiance however is a conspiracy by the GOP whereby they put the word Republic in there so that slogan would prompt people to vote that way. Just kidding.

      • tinlizzieowner

        jimmyinoregon KenCooper  
        Jimmy, words are interesting things and they can be manipulated to mean whatever you want them to mean. Especially the 2 words ‘Democratic’ and ‘Republic’. Take the DPRK for instance, what’s the DPRK? The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. we usually call it North Korea. It’s neither ‘Democratic’ nor a “Republic’. It’s a totalitarian Communist Dictatorship. 
        Speaking of words, Barack Obama has quite a way with them but there’s one thing you can always rely on. When he says “Let me be clear” (which he often does),  he won’t be. ;-) ;-)

      • white531

        jimmyinoregon KenCooper  
        Jimmy, I think I’ve listened to enough of your comments here on Scoop to realize what you are.  Haven’t commented against them as yet, but I’ve decided this evening I’m tired of you.
        You are either a very weak Conservative with left-leaning thoughts, or you are a full blown Progressive LIberal, come here to have fun.  Doesn’t matter to me, one way or the other.

        I am frankly amazed that so many here have treated you so politely.  I guess that stops now.
        I went back through all your posts.  I could not find a single comment that impressed me.
        You have 104 comments on this site, with 22 likes.  I guess that would tell most people you’re not the most popular person here.
        Me, I think you’re what we call, “a professional.”
        Someone who can mouth enough Conservative thoughts to appear real, while at the same time, doing all you can to get across the Liberal view.
        I’m not here every evening, but I guarantee you I will be here as long as you are here.  We can start this evening if you like, or tomorrow, or the next day.  There may be a time lag in our conversation, because I run a business and I’m not always here.  But I will get back to you.
        Please educate me further on the wonderful view you have of the world.  I have my own view, of course.  Undoubtedly, it will not be the same as yours.

        The intercourse will probably prove interesting,  don’t you think?

      • white531

        KenCooper jimmyinoregon  
        Common mistake with Liberals or those who don’t read History.

      • white531

        There is no sense of humor here, Jimmy.  Because the consequences  of a mistake at this point are devastating.
        We are one inch away from becoming a Communist nation.  You and people like you, are a detriment to finding a solution that keeps us from becoming just that.

      • white531

        jimmyinoregon white531 KenCooper  
        I didn’t say you were here to impress me.  What I said was, I looked at all your comments, and  THEY did not impress me.  Including your most recent comment, that hasn’t changed.
        You like having political conversations.  So do I. My conversations tend toward the Conservative side of things.   
        Your comments  tend toward the Liberal side of things. 
        Regarding where I was eight years ago, that is simply a silly question designed to put me on the defensive.  You full well know where I was eight years ago. 
        The real question is, where were you?   Did you vote for this Idiot?

        I have no tolerance for what I  call, “part time Conservatives.”
        Conservatives only when it is convenient.  
        You and people like you, would not have survived 1787.
        Thank God you weren’t there.

      • tinlizzieowner

        white531jimmyinoregonKenCooper 
        ” I am frankly amazed that so many here have treated you so politely.  I guess that stops now.”
        No, it doesn’t for me. 
        This is the main difference between a liberal site and a conservative site. I appreciate those who will come here (and I’m not talking about the hit and run, one post wonders), who have an opinion that is more ‘moderate’ or liberal than mine, and stay knowing they are going to catch a whole lot of Krap for their outlook.
        On most of the (free speech loving) Liberal sites, Conservatives will get their IP (not just heir screen name) banned with their first or 2nd post, like I have.

      • white531

        jimmyinoregon white531 
        You put a label on yourself Jimmy. I didn’t help you with that.
        You and people like you, are of the mindset that the political theater is controlled by big business and major corporations.
        It is an interesting concept, but it has never been proven.
        On the other hand, Hitler was proven, Stalin was proven.  Can I say with clarity, that millions of dead people, support my argument in that respect?
        Business doesn’t kill people.  Political regimes kill people.  I have utter disdain for people who don’t study  History.

      • white531

        jimmyinoregon white531  
        Maybe because even in a Communist Government, business owners still try to make money?   Duh?

      • white531

        jimmyinoregon white531  
        You deny that Hitler and Stalin have anything to do with what’s happening in America today.  How convenient of you.  I guess you think Marx had nothing to do with it either.
        You present yourself to be a reasonable person, full of intelligence of our past, yet your comments show you have no knowledge whatsoever of our history.
        I don’t grieve for you and your ignorance.  i grieve for this country, because this country is full of people just like you.
        God help us.

      • Dr. Strangelove

        jimmyinoregon KenCooper Well, jimmyinoregon, you’d better not read my comments because I became a Rush fan when I would come to a conclusion and have it reinforced when I listened to El Rushbo. And Jiminy, we don’t live in a “Democracy”, we live in a constitutional republic. Put down the HuffingGlue Post for a while and educate yourself.

      • Dr. Strangelove

        white531 jimmyinoregon Reasonable is the key word. Like listening to NPR, they always sound so reasonable.

      • Orangeone

        tinlizzieowner jimmyinoregon KenCooper Barky Boy only has a way with words when someone remembers to give him a speech and load it into the TOTUS :}

      • Orangeone

        jimmyinoregon white531 Who do you think Barky Boy is reading about? His fellow dictators. And if you think he won’t come for you and your family, you are fooling yourself.  You can either join in saving our Constitutional Republic or line up for the FEMA camp

    • KenCooper

      jimmyinoregon Not a real big deal here, but it is if you don’t know the difference. Our country is a REPUBLIC in which we live. We elect our representatives using a democratic method.

    • Orangeone

      jimmyinoregon JohnDavidson1 What Ken says.

  • Tamikosmom

    Thank you Judge Jeanine!!
    Why are these same words not forthcoming from the lips of EVERY Republican congressman?  Why is the Republican opposition for the most part not the opposition when it comes to votes … votes that furthers the ideology of the Islamic appeasing/Marxist Barack Obama?
    Think about it.
    “The best way to control the opposition is
    to lead it ourselves.” – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

  • tinlizzieowner

    “http://therightscoop.com/judge-jeanine-on-obama-spy-scandals-our-founding-fathers-wouldnt-even-recognize-the-america-of-today/
    Founding fathers hell, MY, late father (who died in 1952) wouldn’t recognize the America of today. :-(

    • tinlizzieowner

      jimmyinoregon tinlizzieowner  
      Jimmy, I was in elementary school in the 50’s. I could ride to school with an M-1 Garand across the handle bars of my bike for ‘show and tell’ and nobody would have thought a thing about it. My teacher could have probably ‘field stripped’ it because he was likely a WW2 Vet.
      The video doesn’t mention that many of us swam in polio infested irrigation canals, played “Cowboys & Indians (excuse me, Native Americans) with ‘live ammunition’ BB guns and lived in houses often filled with 2nd hand smoke from our parents.
      Looking back in retrospect now, maybe it would have been better if we had all died young. Then, there wouldn’t be the generation of fat, spoiled brats we coddled, running the country today. ;-)

      • white531

        tinlizzieowner jimmyinoregon  
        We are in lockstep.  America has changed, and we have remained the same.

      • tinlizzieowner

        white531tinlizzieownerjimmyinoregon 
        I was raised on this tune and the personal responsibility it implies.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtTC3pGBjs4
        It was recorded by the (Black) Coasters in 1958. Isn’t sadly ironic that Black fathers like that, almost don’t exist today.:-(

      • Orangeone

        white531 tinlizzieowner jimmyinoregon That’s because we were raised with the Constitution, Freedom, Liberty and as TLO says, personal responsibility as our obligation.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      tinlizzieowner Funny, but the kids these days don’t seem to get it when I ask, “You ever wonder where the pioneers plugged in their cell phones when they crossed the prairie?”

  • clubgitmo

    This is not America any more.

  • http://www.governmentmess.blogspot.com/ faustmanv

    Government Gone Wild! Why? Because it’s too damn BIG!

  • Dr. Strangelove

    I love you Jeanine but even a dummy like me could see the potential for abuse when Bush signed the Patriot act.

  • Zircon46

    Our founding fathers are watching to see if we deserve and will fight for what they gave us – a free republic.  Let us not disappoint them.

  • DarrellGriffin

    We should have a national week of “googling” to send a message to the government.
    Get 50 million people to search for “Founding Documents” one day, followed the next day by a different topic.
    Better yet, let’s flood their servers with porn. :D

    • tinlizzieowner

      DarrellGriffin  
      Well…. I don’t know about the ‘porn’ part but flooding the servers whit episodes of ‘Sponge Bob Square Pants’ sounds like fun. :-)

  • lawngreen

    I’m late to this party – busy weekend – but, “chipping away”? More like tearing big hunks out of it.

  • white531

    I am not very fond of leaving active conversations, and jumping to the next one.  It is disruptive to clear thought on any given issue. I know it pays the bills, but we never seem to finish one thing, before we start a new thing.
    It gets tiring.

  • white531

    So who took out Jimmyoregon?  I was looking forward to more conversation.

  • HCTUB

    No the shame is on the 51percenters , who believe Pinocchio , with they free phone . That they great leader is spying on them. Where is the truth ? Benghazi , Forth Hood , Fast and Furious , IRS , and more , but these things are Bush’s fault . He saids . Give me a break .