By The Right Scoop


David Letterman is a joke that’s just not funny anymore. And apparently not sincere in his apologies either:

FOX NEWS – David Letterman was in mea culpa mode in a sit-down chat with Oprah Winfrey on Sunday night. But while he apologized profusely for the pain he had caused his wife when an extramarital affair with a young staffer was revealed, he was less remorseful when asked about his awkward sex joke about Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter, Willow. …

But Letterman said the only reason he apologized to Sarah Palin after he was roundly criticized for making a sex joke on “Late Night” about Willow, then 14, was so that he could continue to make jokes about the former Vice Presidential candidate.

“I felt like Sarah Palin was somebody I wanted to be able to continue to make fun of,” he said. “And I felt like if I don’t apologize … I will not be able to go forward [with that].”

MORE…

I went back and read my short writeup on his apology to Palin. Turns out I never thought he apologized in the firsts place:

David Letterman spent the better part of 10 minutes trying to clear up the mess he made regarding his Sarah Palin jokes. He primarily defended himself, insisting that he would never advocate child rape or promiscuity. He never actually apologized, but then who thought he would? It was more about damage control (while getting more laughs) than about the insensitivity he displayed when joking about Palin’s daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones

    How can people listen to him saying these things, and still patronize his show? Her just proved, on national television, that he is a ginormous asshole, and yet people will continue to watch his show!!! Just goes to show that we really shouldn’t be worried about converting his audience, or what his audience thinks of us, since we are diametrically opposed to them…they are IMBECILES, and rediculously childish. They will NEVER be Conservative.

    • SineWaveII

      Sure they will. It will just take a long time for enough of them to become victims of crime and taxes and realize they have no future following the policies of the left. In other words to “grow up”. Unfort. however another generation of dumb lefties will come behind them to take their place.

      • Betsey_Ross

        Well, he just got a tax raise. Maybe he will figure it out eventually. Yeah, I know it will take a while. He is a moron.

        • SineWaveII

          You got that right.

    • Orangeone

      Of course they will watch his show, the Barky Boy family are frequent guests

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      They are of like minds with the letter dude. The letter dude ceased being funny long ago and is just another talking head for the propagandist media arm of Zero and the elitists in the entertainment industry. He is a truly vile and despicable “human being”, if I may use the term loosely.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-L-Macchia/649373637 Robert L Macchia

      You are so right. The David Letterman who was involved in a sex scandal in 2009 and admitted it. It’s like the pot calling the kettle black. Letterman needs to be replaced. If he had half of a brain he’d be a quarter wit.

  • http://twitter.com/Gypsymtnkat Katherine Tomsich

    He was funny 30 years ago…now he is simply a Democrat booster.

    • 3seven77

      Nope. Letterman’s never been funny. In spite of fame, fortune, and a great job he’s always been a bitter, cynical, gap-toothed dumb@ss.

      • Orangeone

        Who impregnated someone and didn’t marry her until there was sufficient public outrage.

        • 3seven77

          Exactly. And the only reason Letterman “confessed” to his numerous sexual escapades with his female staff was because he was going to be blackmailed. He didn’t confess because it was the right thing to do. It was because he was going to lose hush money.

        • PatrickHenrysBody

          The letter dude is a true leftist in every sense of the word. He and slick Willie have a lot in common.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    Proof positive liberals are disgusting and crazy!

    I stopped watching him years ago – I find him repulsive

    I would rather watch Don Rickles – Rickles says things in jest

    Letterman actually means what he says

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

      I almost forgot

      He is a sexual predator!

      https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=d&q=letterman+sex+scandal&oq=letterman+sex+scandal&gs_l=hp.12…2984.11406.0.13031.28.20.5.1.1.1.766.3001.3j6j5j6-1.15.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.1.l1cTxAo7BMA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dmQ&fp=b53f4d98b62dae30&bpcl=40096503&biw=1597&bih=904

      • marketcomp

        Yes he is, Joe! Well let’s see. A philanderer, adultery, womanizer-Oh wait! everything that Bill Cinton is and everything that Sarah Palin is NOT!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

          *****************************BINGO!*************************

    • BlueGood

      That AZZHOLE LEDDERMAN would not recognize a genuine honest & decent woman if he screwed her in his studio, (oh…silly me…I heard that has happened a few times),….let alone SPEAK to one with such grace intelligence & integrity as Sarah Palin!

  • sjmom

    This is one sick evil man; he only apologized to continue mocking Sarah? Letterman needs to be taken off of the air because this behavior should not be allowed for public consumption.

  • MiketheMarine

    Letterman apparently didn’t watch that show that Mr. Palin was on with all the shooting. I wouldn’t want that man pissed off at me. Letterman ain’t to bright. I would expect one of his armed security to warn him to shut up.

  • http://twitter.com/uncmetsgal Carmen P

    Gap-toothed weasel. I am always in awe of how such grotesque people get away with making fun of other people (Kathy Griffin *woof* comes to mind here).

    I seem to recall Palin saying she didn’t want or need his apology.

    God Bless you, Sarah.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Wojcik/1252071956 Rich Wojcik

      “woof” means in her case a “female dog” , I presume ;)

    • las1

      Actually when thinking about Griffin, “woof” is an insult to dogs. Sk@nk doesn’t even fit anymore.

      Now I need a shower.

      • colliemum

        Thanks for coming to the defense of dogs!

        That’s all I’ll say about Griffin.

      • Orangeone

        But skank does.

  • marketcomp

    This means that Lettermen gets no rating unless he demean and ridicule Sarah Palin and her family. Lettermen is a sexual stalker given his reputation to employ sexual favors from the women on his staff. Moreover, Obama probably told him to do it as payment for the Kennedie award. Just another robot for Obama and the democrat party.

  • Conniption Fitz

    Correction: “Letterman is a sick joke….”

    So are a bunch of others. Bill Maher comes to mind as well as the silly woman who kissed Anderson Cooper’s crotch.

    These are vulgah people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Wojcik/1252071956 Rich Wojcik

    That ugly SOB forcing a female staffer to have sex with him…
    and he, like W. BLIGHT Clinton, is a leftist hero!!
    No TV propaganda/leftist cretins in my home.

  • Nukeman60

    Scoop, your initial assessment was spot on. Letterman, like all of the liberal media, only care about their ratings. If he felt that his comments would lower his ratings, he would naturally apologize (with tongue in cheek).

    Of course, on the reverse side, if he thought human sacrifices would boost his ratings, he would do that in a heartbeat, as well. This says so much about his character.

    And once again, I’m sure Sarah Palin could care less what he thinks, one way or the other.

    • Joseph ewing

      I’m not sure I agree with your assessment.

      If Letterman truly believed ONLY in ratings, he wouldn’t hurt them by being so blatantly left leaning.

      It doesn’t take a Rocket Scientist to know that if you alienate 50% of the population, your ratings won’t be as good as they can be.

      I think as he has gotten older (and rich beyond what he can ever spend), he has less and less reason to play the ratings game, and you now see the REAL David Letterman. Mean as a snake, and politically to the Left of Stalin.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Wojcik/1252071956 Rich Wojcik

    I am still waiting for the news after Todd P. meets Maher, alone;
    and that front gap in Letterman’s snout will be 32 teeth wider, I presume too.

    • colliemum

      You took the words out of my keyboard!

  • tinker_thinker

    People still watch that dirty pedophile? jeeezzz they are as sick as he is.

    • Orangeone

      They are taking lessons….

  • las1

    Another “ughh” moment… brought to you by the Democrat Media Complex.

  • las1

    I’m not sure I can take much more of this culture.

    And we have at best a minimum of four more years of liberals flinging poo.

    Maybe I’ll buy me some land in Northern Ontario and settle… way north!

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      Nice. Cottage country is lovely too. You still have to contend with leftist Hollyweird types there, though. Maybe you mean farther north than that. :-)

    • cabensg

      In my opinion not watching the news shows or Letterman hasn’t done the job. It seems their wealth and influence aren’t diminished. They still have influence over the uninformed or disinterested.

      If were going to refuse to watch their shows we need to let them know why. We need to let their sponsors know why. Somehow I think thousands or maybe even more. letter, emails, postcards and petitions would have more impact than just lower ratings have. We manage to come together over specific incidents like chick-fil-A but support for isolated incidents hasn’t impacted the nightly news shows bias and lying. There have to be millions of conservatives or like minded people who see the media is the enemy of our liberty. We need to come together in some meaningful action rather than just observing our countries decline, which we all seem to agree is happening.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Letterman is a pedophile and a reprobate. Funny how rotten human beings like him and Bill Maher are rewarded with their own show on national T.V. – so wrong.

    He’s a sick man and needs to go away now.

  • ryanomaniac

    Man I miss Johnny Carson. He wouldn’t like where this a$$hole has gone. He isn’t funny anyway!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/brian.mouland.908 Brian Mouland

      Johnny Carson was a huge Liberal but never let partisanship trump entertainment

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        Indeed!

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      Thumbs up to Carson! Even a dead Carson is funnier than a live letter dude.

  • Joseph ewing

    You know you’re getting old when you can remember WAAAAAAY back when Letterman was actually funny.

    • Cindy09

      Awww!

    • http://www.facebook.com/brian.mouland.908 Brian Mouland

      God when Larry Bud Mellman was on the show thats about 30 years ago

  • Army_Pilot1967

    Letterman is a bitter, old man that doesn’t like most people.

    • sarahsupporter

      and most people don’t like him either.

  • DCGere

    Pig!

  • opinionatedhermit

    Has David Letterman ever settled his harassment suit that was filed against him by women?

    FYI, David Letterman has a long and distinguished career of abusing women of all political stripes. His own employees, his own girlfriend. He has a history, and it is famous.

    If only Sarah was the lone victim of this clown. I am confident she could handle it.

    Unfortunately, Letterman’s own employers, those that hired him and his company … want him to act out in this type of behavior, in order to make money off him. Better said: “Bank.” And, therefore have decided to protect him. It is a conscious and obvious decision they have made.

    And, let us not forget, these same clowns use OUR airwaves, that WE all gave them to use, to purposely disparage Americans. And at the same time, they fight them hard, using the court system, in order deny these Americans their Constitutional and Civil Rights…. Again, they do this purposely, just so they can make more and more money. It is outrageous, the very same Americans that gave them the airwaves to use, when they promised to use them – RESPONSIBLY!!!…. David Letterman is more than just a joke….

    And, because of it, we’re going to hit em’ again.

    These gangster wanna’ be businessmen, take our airwaves to purposely engage in sketchy legal behavior, in order to make money. It is about money. It is ALL about the money. It is disgusting. The people at CBS are nothing but a bunch of greedy, hypocritical pigs….

    And, as we all know, “What is good for the goose … is good for the gander ….”

    This network needs to lose it’s license. That is the best fix to the propaganda spouting, “sketchy” legal activity of the MSM. There is no doubt about it….

    • Betsey_Ross

      As you were describing Letterman’s history I was struck at how closely it follows Ted Baxter’s history, yet he still has a job at Fox and also was nasty to Sarah. So much so that she would barely go on his show anymore. Yet, there he is with the best ratings in prime time on cable. What has happened to America?????

      • opinionatedhermit

        You’re not going to find much defense of Fox News from me of late.

        But, they use a paid delivery system to deliver their content. They do not use our television airwaves to make their profits. And, unlike CBS thereby do not make promises to the American people, that they are not living up to.

        But, all this said, I appreciate your input. It is an excellent point. Touche’

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      It’s all brushed under the rug with all the filthy leftists in entertainment media. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds!

    • cabensg

      This network needs to lose it’s license.

      Then we must find a way to make it happen.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVCGRG62NAGQXJ6ZNE4JCTVVTU Ray

    We already knew that Dave, oh, and by the way, you were, are, and will be a cad. A real man does not treat women they way you do.

    • stage9

      …but liberals do.

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        …and get away with it time and again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tracy.mitchell.9421450 Tracy Mitchell

    There is no morality in today’s society anymore. It is simply a lack of any kind of empathy. It’s everywhere you look- reality shows, cartoons, news, video games. Kids today don’t have any concept of pain of another in any form. They are only looking at their own wants and desires and for someone to take care of them. That’s why that guy can say what he says and people laugh, there just isn’t any empathy.

    • aposematic

      Obviously the Left is incapable of sharing anything, especially their feelings. Its all about them, screw everyone else.

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        “Screw everyone else,” both figuratively and literally. Disgusting filth all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.opsahl Jim Opsahl

    Well, Dave… when I need a laugh, I don’t watch your show. I look at your ratings.

    • 20Chitowndemrevenuestream12

      i think Mr . Carson and the Tonight show knew exactly what they were doing when they bypassed this constipated old coot for the Tonight show

  • http://www.crossworksme.com/ GiantM

    Once again…another Hippocratic Liberal.

  • 1217Chic

    What a DH….yawn

  • Spartan4Palin

    Well I see his lack of humility towards the ‘fairer’ sex has come out again? You think this really bothers Governor Palin? Not in the least. Does it bother me? Only that I believe chivalry is dead in so many ways regarding our party. I don’t see many calling on this ass-clown to take it back. I don’t believe I’m shocked by anything this douchebag says. Am I bothered by the so-called women’s groups that dont leap to her side? Nope. But the Governor once said that when a women is under attack and those that fight for women’s issues don’t come to her defense, there’s a special kind of Hell waiting for them.

    As for this woman, I have, will and always stand with the Governor. It is maniacal to watch the so-called ‘tolerant’ left spew their hatred for this woman, even after 4 years. I have no faith in those that preach to me to be more understanding and then unload this bile. I continue to marvel at the grace the Governor shows when confronted by those who do nothing but use and abuse her, her family and her name, all for the almighty dollar and rating point. Her courage to take the barbs and attacks is phenomenal. I’ve never seen anyone take so much and stand her ground in spite of it all as much as she has.

    Thank you Governor Palin for being such an inspirational figure to me and to so many others.

  • Spartan4Palin

    By the way Oprah, did you find anything in that conversation disturbing or hypocritical in any way? What was your response to that?

    ***crickets***

  • notebene

    So Dave, since you’re such a class act…why are Obama’s daughters off your chart? Hmmmm? Could it be that you are a pedophile hypocrite? The joke is that Odumbo is a failure and you still voted him in for another four years of failure. Letterman is a despicable, sorry excuse for a human being!

  • stage9

    I think the only reason Letterman is still on TV is because he gets a lot of the “sleep ratings”. That’s when the older population falls asleep with their tv’s on during his show and the network assumes that those viewers are actual viewers.

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      LOL

  • tinlizzieowner

    Hey Letterman, you short on jokes? How about these?

    What’s the difference between a liberal and a bunk bed?
    A bunk bed can actually support 2 people. ;-)

    You know how to starve a liberal?
    Hide his EBT card under his work boots. ;-)

    You know why liberals won’t let their kids play in sand boxes?
    Cats keep trying to bury them. ;-)

    • poljunkie

      Ha! The bunk bed one is pretty awesome.

      • tinlizzieowner

        They started out as ‘race’ jokes but I’m not into that kind of krap.

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      The closest thing that came to an intelligent, impartial audience that David Letterman ever had was when he told his jokes to an empty theater during Hurricane Sandy.

  • aposematic

    Never wasted my time watching Letterman…have little tolerance for those that do.

  • Smith Smith

    He never apologized, what he did was feel regrate that it was the 14 year old daughter and not the 17 year that he was making sexual comments about.

    No need to say sorry and apologies for anything if you really never feel sorry for what you did. He truely meant to say what he said at a 17 year old. 14 or 17, not sure any rash person can see a difference in what he said, pretty sure she still a minor.

  • BikerHoop

    David Letterman is a putz. The only person who ever thought he was funny was himself. In the few times I’ve listened to him I never so much as chuckled.

  • Constance

    Letterman was a liberal freak when he was younger and starting out on TV. He’s still a liberal freak. I never thought he was funny – not naturally funny. Oh, a few moments here and there, but not genuinely funny. And as for Oprah? Please. It was after she jumped on the Hope and Change bandwagon that her ratings dropped and her world changed. Her racist pandering to Obama sunk her in the eyes of many in her audience. I guess she forgot that the majority of her audience were white women. Statistically, that was once the case. I’m glad she is a fallen “hero”. Letterman never was much except a liberal white guy who can’t keep it in his pants.

    • DebbyX

      So well said!

      I used to be one of those white women.

      Well, I’m still a white woman, but……..
      oh, never mind.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Wojcik/1252071956 Rich Wojcik

      anybody can READ other people’s jokes!

  • tinlizzieowner

    If Palin was a Democrat, the Woman’s Liberalizationists would be all over him like syrup on pancakes.

    • PhillyCon

      Exactly. Just said the same thing down thread.

      • tinlizzieowner

        We both know it’s a fact. They are only interested in the ‘liberation’ of liberal women, that’s why I call them ‘Women’s Liberalizationists’. ;-)

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      That comment invoked unpleasant images for me. :-P

  • http://twitter.com/1RandiStarr Randi Starr

    There’s a good reason he sees a shrink every week…………………..

  • bongobear

    None of these late night shows have been worth a damn since Johnny Carson retired. Letterman’s a bigger jerk than Leno…but not by much.
    Edit: I’ve never watched either Leno or Letterman so I don’t really know if their shows are any good but I don’t think I’d like either one of them.

  • syvyn11

    So the apology is worthless. Much like Letterman’s tired act.

  • hedyanne

    After him making a statement like that who in their right mind would watch a sick mind like his. No matter what you think of Sarah Palin he and a lot of the so called media should be ashamed of themselves for talkng about any woman the way that he does. He is a sick bastard and Obama honers him what a sick society we live in….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

    Letterman has always been and will always be irrelevant to me. Sarah Palin on the other hand will always be inspirational to me.

  • Philo Beddoe

    The people that listen to Letterman are the same that listen to Maher when he denigrates Christians and are the same one’s that laughed and applauded when Jamie Foxx talked about his new movie and said “he gets to kill white people, how great is that”.

    Letterman, Maher appeal to a culture that really cannot differentiate civility from crass behavior in society. This younger generation is the outcome of the “be yourself” attitude of the ’60’s and ’70’s. Take what is your because it is yours to take.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQL44D6ZYDWZFFEUHUB6OSAJ2Q Brian

    If you had to wake up next to his wife you would be bitter to. He is so jealous of Todd it is embarrasing.

  • tinlizzieowner

    “It was more about damage control (while getting more laughs) than about the insensitivity he displayed when joking about Palin’s daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.”

    Never heard any jokes out of him about Obama’s daughters, have you.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CZSU2D67ODNZOKEZYHXONQ4F5Y John

      great suggestion!!!
      Hey, you! Yes, you bag of caca on two curved legs – you, Letterman! Make a joke about prezzy’s daughters having sex with – whoever/whatever!
      I’ll bet you tax-free 1,ooo dollars you cannot do it!!! YOU STINKY COWARD!!!!
      YOU UGLY IMBECILE!!!!

      • tinlizzieowner

        Hey, Letterman, take the easy way. Make a joke about Hillary and Bill’s daughter, you situational hypocrite.
        ;-) ;-)

  • Biggbear52

    The Boy litter mouth had proven to me over 30 years ago that he would remain a boy in cranial mass. His style is borderline disgusting and always insulting to someone. That works for Howard Stern, whom I dislike as well, but is does not work for a guy that back in the sixties, was kind of funny. Comedy is supposed to be free of insults and vulgar garbage. He is losing ratings fast the doan’s loses pills so he had to come up with something to be trendy. To his hosting demise this will end up being his due and that is precisely what anyone that whores themselves out to the highest payer, regardless of venue or position, results in.

    • poljunkie

      The thing about Howard Stern is that most of his banter seemed to be an act UNTIL he divorced his wife. Thats when he went from joking around- to meaning his shtick.
      I thought a lot of what he used to say about his parents- and being raised in an over protective Jewish family was pretty funny…

      But he lost a lot of his funny when he went from day dreaming and fantasy to full on super model crazy.

  • FreeManWalking

    Right with you SCOOP!

    I have to ask, does anyone think an apology from DL to a conservative, would be any more believable than a democrat representative professing they are conservative?

    I know in Sara’s position she is expected to say and gracefully accept the apology of a misogynistic AHole who enjoys making fun of handicap children.

    but for once I would like for her to refuse to accept his appoligy, and do it in the biggest media format available to her, letting the world know what a sniveling little creature he is, and CBS is for retaining him on their network.

  • MsContrary

    He is a complete and utter waste of anyone’s time….

  • white531

    Most despicable human being on the planet. I’m being generous, calling him a human being.

    • poljunkie

      Yep, I dont understand the attraction people see in him. He’s a mean spirited, nasty guy.

      I dont see the interest in any of the late night shows but Johnny Carson- although also a liberal- at least had class.

      Merv Griffin was a showman and had class as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YTW457NVTTIB2NPVUGR7WXAXFM General Lee

    I’m not a violent person but there are two people in this world that I would like to see get cold-cocked and dropped like a bag of Jell-O; David Letterman and Bill Maher. I can’t tell you the joy it would bring me if some over-roided body builder grabbed one or (preferably) both, by the neck and made them *hit themselves from shear terror, and you know they would. They hide behind their desk, body guards and security systems. If they had to walk down the street unprotected, neither of them would make it a block. They would get dealt the just they have earned.

  • poljunkie

    David Letterman is a total jerk.

    I was flipping the channels and saw he was acting remorseful about his indiscretions in a conversation with Oprah.
    Key word: “acting”.

    What total bullsh*t. I don’t buy his performance for a minute. The red eyes…Oh boo hoo.

    Marital infidelity? Cheating with a lower level staffer that would be subservient?
    Making fun of Gov Palin and her family because his audience is made up of mostly progressive tools.
    Wow.—how en vogue of you David.

    To expect common courtesy, a little civility or basic respect, is too much to ask I know. But David…karma is a b*tch. I think he has a little boy- it will be a pity if his kid gets bullied, or made fun of, wont it?

  • PhillyCon

    So does Letterman “make fun” of Democrat women like this? I highly doubt it.

    He is right up there with Bill Maher.

  • 12grace

    Letterman proves once again that he is a low class moron.

  • poljunkie

    I never could never see the value his audience finds in his insults towards Republicans. Which he seems to cherish so much.

    As you know i’m not a fan of Obama or other liberals- but I wouldn’t say thorny things about their kids. Honestly, it’s the very rare occasion that I toss a slur towards any of them that’s personal. There’s enough criticism of political events to keep me busy without embarrassing the rest of their family.

    • PVG

      Unlike Letterman, you are a class-act!

      • poljunkie

        Thank you very much PVG!
        :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.mouland.908 Brian Mouland

    Who cares about this has-been his show has been lame since the 1990s

    • PVG

      Exactly!

  • Charm4sure

    What an arrogant as&! He is so small a person that he can’t see that he just admitted that the quality of his personal character is disingenuous. He is so arrogant he can”t see his ignorance and believes he is making Palin look bad! ! Clearly what keeps him going is getting approval from the liberal hate machine, …. which he will get. He is nothing imore than a trained seal waiting for his treat. How pathetic and destructive these libs are degrading their own character for the cause. Sick, sick,sick. No honor among libs.

  • http://twitter.com/Buckeyemom1776 Therese

    David Letterman…..nothing but rich white trash…..enough said.

  • cabensg

    I read he visits a shrink daily or weekly can’t remember which. I guess this shows who side some Psychs are on.