By The Right Scoop


Marco Rubio was on the Mark Levin Show tonight to discuss the fight to defund Obamacare and said that if Obamacare isn’t the issue we’d be willing to fight to the limit on, then he doesn’t know what it would be:

There has to be some issue at which we say look, this is the issue where we draw the line. I mean, we understand about all the other things but there’s an issue where you’ve got to draw a line in the sand and say this is it, I mean, on this issue we’re willing to fight no matter what the consequences, politically or otherwise [are]. If that issue is not Obamacare, I can’t understand what issue it would be. …Of all the issues out there, if there was one issue that we should be willing to go to the limit on, this is it.

Later in the clip below, Rubio states his position on fighting to defund Obamacare even more emphatically:

Look, I’m not attacking anyone directly. All I’m saying is that you cannot say you are against Obamacare if you are willing to vote for a law that funds it. If you’re willing to fund this thing, you can’t possibly say you’re against it.

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  • IsabelMatos

    He’s a pathological liar.

    • marketcomp

      IsabelMatos Yeah, we should that pull the plug on that one.

      • IsabelMatos

        marketcomp IsabelMatos He has no credibility left.

        • HillaryShackley

          IsabelMatos marketcomp  I just saw your post- AMEN!

        • Zalman770

          IsabelMatos marketcomp For heavens sake! He has voted right on every other issue, but this one. 
          Wow, and your going to just throw him off because of this one issue that make absolutely no difference to your life!

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 IsabelMatos marketcomp No he hasn’t. Go back to Tokyo Rove for new talking points.
          He voted to confirm Jack Lew and Hanoi John!

        • mytorpor

          Zalman770 IsabelMatos marketcomp It is one issue that will make absolutely no difference to your life….unless you work for a living and don’t want your wages undercut, or unless you are looking for a job and don’t want finding a well paying, full time job to go from being extremely difficult to completely impossible, unless you don’t want believe we need MORE immigrants coming here through chain migration to take jobs and lower wages, unless you actually care about your children’s future, unless you believe America’s borders should be secured BEFORE anything is done EXCEPT enforcing the laws we already have on the books, so that most of these illegals self deport!  We need to address our immigration problems, but the bill Rubio is pushing not only doesn’t address the real problems, it creates many more for today’s and future American workers!  I’ll take his vote against funding Obamacare, but his betrayal on amnesty means he should be primaried out of office as soon as possible.

    • Zalman770

      IsabelMatos The evidence is to the contrary. Marco Rubio has always been honest on fiscal issues. Stop mixing the two ( fiscal and social policy’s) together.

      • Jayrae

        Zalman770 IsabelMatos Fiscal issue: Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew!

    • Stehekin912

      I’ll take his support against ThatCreepCare….but no rehabilitation.

  • 57thunderbird

    If you are for amnesty,you can’t possibly say your against it.Rubio even wanted to give the illegals an exemption from 0care.

  • marketcomp

    “Look, I’m not attacking anyone directly. All I’m saying is that you cannot say you are against Obamacare if you are willing to vote for a law that funds it. If you’re willing to fund this thing, you can’t possibly say you’re against it,”  says Sen. Rubio.
    Yeah, and how can you be for the  citizen when you are willing to vote for an immigration bill that allows those illegal immigrants who broke the law by infiltrating the borders and disrespecting US sovereignty to then take the  jobs of the American citizens. Mmm, how can you do that, Sen. Marco Rubio?!

  • DHardy

    Rubio is trying desperately to hide the fact he is being recalled and is attempting to distance himself from HIS Amnesty Bill he pushed through the Senate….I hope we get him completely out of politics..

    • Tamikosmom

      DHardy 

      When the silence encompassing both the recalling of Marco as well as his illegal immigration betrayal to Conservatives is considered … It is obvious that Mark Levin was attempting to give this Judas a pass.  WHY MARK?  WHY?

  • Susanb958

    What I wanted to say here has already been said.

  • jamesbotts16309

    See, this is a huge problem. Talk radio keeps having these backstabber lying sack of you know whats on their radio programs. Rubio is dead to me after his betrayal on amnesty in the Senate. Why is Rubio on a supposedly conservative talk show when he isn’t really a conservative? Why is Mark Levin throwing him a lifeline? 
    I love ya Mark, but why not have a real conservative on the air instead. Why not have Mitch McConnell’s and Lindsay Graham’s primary challengers on instead?

    • 57thunderbird

      jamesbotts16309 I don’t understand Marks loyalty to Rubio either.It baffles me.

    • No_BlahBlah

      jamesbotts16309 If he’s having fidel rubio on why bother having mcconnell’s and graham’s opponents  on? Just have mcconnell and graham!!

  • 1vote

    Rubio is PURE politician !!

  • Tamikosmom

    REMINDER

    Marco Rubio, 2009
    “I am strongly against amnesty. The most important
    thing we need to do is enforce our existing laws. We have existing immigration
    laws that are not being adequately enforced. Nothing will make it harder to
    enforce the existing laws, if you reward people who broke them. It demoralizes
    people who are going through the legal process, its a very clear signal of why
    go through the legal process, if you can accomplish the same thing if you go
    through the illegal process. And number two, if demoralizes the people enforcing
    the laws. I am not, and I will never support any effort to grant blanket
    legalization/amnesty to folks who have entered, stayed in this country
    illegally.”
    http://shark-tank.net/2013/01/28/marco-rubio-the-immigration-reform-savior-or-fraud/
    .
    Marco Rubio, 2013
    Rubio-Obama immigration plan? Senator’s proposal looks like White House policy
    Posted on Wednesday, 01.16.13
    Not only do Rubio and Obama’s plans create a similar type of amnesty for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants, the two politicians have used similar language.
    Here’s Obama unveiling his plan in May 2011, relatively little-reported at the time:
    “Those who are here illegally, they have a responsibility as well. So they broke the law, and that means they’ve got to pay their taxes, they’ve got to pay a fine, they’ve got to learn English. And they’ve got to undergo background checks and a lengthy process before they get in line for legalization. That’s not too much to ask.”
    Here’s Rubio in the Wall Street Journal on the undocumented:
    “They would have to come forward. They would have to undergo a background check…They would have to pay a fine, pay back taxes, maybe even do community service. They would have to prove they’ve been here for an extended period of time. They understand some English and are assimilated. Then most of them would get legal status and be allowed to stay in this country.”

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/16/3185077/rubio-obama-immigration-plan-senators.html%20/%20storylink=cpy

    • marketcomp

      Tamikosmom  It was well known during the immigration debates in the Senate that he was being used by the democrats through Chuck Schumer and by the minority leader Mitch McConnell. So why would he allow himself to be the face of the Obama immigration law? He’s just not that bright.

      • No_BlahBlah

        marketcomp Tamikosmom DON’T kid yourself;
        He IS that bright. He just believes along with schmucky schumer and mcLame that YOU’RE an idiot.

      • deTocqueville1

        marketcomp So you are saying he is not very bright?

  • Tamikosmom

    Mark … WHY???

    • deTocqueville1

      Tamikosmom My sentiments exactly. Mark sometimes allows loyalty to overtake hi judgement.

  • No_BlahBlah

    So fidel rubio, from this clarification of your position on standing up for principles can I assume??? that if you don’t want to enforce the laws already enacted regarding border security and want to create new procedures to legalize persons who have entered America illegally so that they can ‘come out of the shadows’ that you really have NO moral principles only political calculations?
    ” If you’re willing to fund(allow illegals to become citizens) this thing, you can’t possibly say you’re against it(enforcing border security and not letting illegals flood America).”
    You’re so much smarter than I am, am I missing something?

    • Zalman770

      No_BlahBlah Stop mixing up the two issues. Marco is doing the right thing here. why don’t you focus on the positive?

      • mytorpor

        Zalman770 No_BlahBlah Because he has proven he is a liar.  And if he will lie to his constituents about his intentions on immigration, he will lie about his intentions on Obamacare.  This is nothing more than an effort to keep himself from being primaried out of office!

      • No_BlahBlah

        Zalman770 No_BlahBlah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
        You’re silly! You make me laugh!! : )!

        • Zalman770

          No_BlahBlah Zalman770 Keep laughing troller… the Dr says it’s healthy lmao

      • Jayrae

        Zalman770 No_BlahBlah Because he’s full of chit! He’s dead and you know it.

  • HillaryShackley

    Come on, REALLY?  He has no credibility now, throw the bum out.

    • Zalman770

      HillaryShackley You kidding? When was the last time Marco hasn’t voted like a fiscal conservative?!

      • phill1234

        Zalman770 HillaryShackley if you read the Senate amnesty bill and you will see the huge amount of perks and waste that’s in that bill, Plus welfare for the illegals,
        http://www.talkradionews.com/opinion/2013/07/05/senate-immigration-bill-would-waste-billions.html#.UgBkzdKGiiM
        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/29/Exclusive-Immigration-bill-would-load-immediate-fiscal-burden-onto-state-local-governments-by-allowing-illegal-immigrants-onto-welfare
        HOW CAN HE STILL CLAIM TO BE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE ??? 
        I appreciate him being on our side on this issue, but no, never again for the trator called marco Rubio,

        • Zalman770

          phill1234 Zalman770 HillaryShackley 
          Good luck finding an alternative to Rubio. Do you really think that you’ll never have an issue with Paul or Cruz?! you got to be kidding yourself!

        • phill1234

          Zalman770 phill1234 HillaryShackley i probably will have some disagreements with Cruz and Paul down the road (and specifically paul), but no, i dont expect  them to sell out on the big items, as well as doing the exact opposite of what they “ran” on (not just a campaign Promise,)

          this was a big part of his appeal to the GOP Base in Fl. and boy did his disappoint

        • Zalman770

          phill1234 Zalman770 HillaryShackley I believe you are mistaken on this one. His primary appeal was on Obamacare wasn’t it? 
          Immigration reform is something that manny great conservatives have suppurted in the past… Mitt Romney, Ronald reagan, Newt Gingrich and even Rick Santurem. 
          So why make such a big deal over this… especially that he meant well and has voted consistently conservative on every other issue?

        • mytorpor

          Zalman770 phill1234 HillaryShackley Reagan said that the biggest regret of his presidency was signing the immigration bill.  Just as Rubio is going to discover, Reagan ended up giving the illegals amnesty and citizenship, only to find that the Dems broke there end of the bargain and the border was as porous as ever…hence the unknown number of illegals here now!  And if you believe that 11 million number, you are living in a dream!

        • No_BlahBlah

          Zalman770
          Fess up! You’re fidel rubio! RIght? I guessed it didn’t I?

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 phill1234 HillaryShackley You don’t reside in Florida. We do. We knocked on doors for this dirtbag and he is DEAD to us. Amnesty was Jeb’s agenda not his. He sold out for access to Barbara Bush’s rolodex. He corrupt, burnt, Bush Mafia toast.

        • Zalman770

          mytorpor Zalman770 phill1234 HillaryShackley And if Rubio would say he regrets it…. You’ed still hold a grudge over him…. WHY?????

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 mytorpor phill1234 HillaryShackley Because he freakin’ lied. AND I don’t suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. All the Bush Mafia couldn’t put Screwbio back together again. Corruption is corruption.

        • applepie101

          Zalman770 If you’re a conservative from New York, how can you support anyone who makes deals with Schumer, as Rubio has done?

        • Zalman770

          applepie101 Zalman770 Wow, I see you really did a lot of research on me.
          But to answer you reasonable question: I’m being realistic. You and I know that there a varry few poltiicains who are willing to stand up for what is right. 
          Rubio is one of those. Rubio is almost 100% of the time right on political issues I’m not going to trash him because of that 1% time  he got it wrong.

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 applepie101 Rubio is CORRUPT.
          Rubio is “Bought and Paid For.”
          Rubio stands for NOTHING but Marco Freakin’ Rubio.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 applepie101 Why are you so angry?

      • mytorpor

        Zalman770 HillaryShackley It won’t matter what type of conservative he is if this immigration bill passes!  There won’t be a conservative candidate winning an election for another hundred years once it is put in place and all the illegals get their amnesty (yes, it IS amnesty!).  And thanks to the Supremes, now all they have to do is sign a paper saying they are citizens…and anyone willing to cross our border illegally will have no problem at all signing that paper in order to get more freebies from the Dems.

      • Jayrae

        Zalman770 HillaryShackley He voted to confirm Jack Lew Secretary of the Treasury in true Bush Mafia fashion.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 HillaryShackley Wow, you keep repeating yourself over and over again…. get a life!

  • PressWatchusa

    He is one confused dude trying to save face – Forget it Marco –
    Your true colors came shining through – in a bad way!

    • Zalman770

      PressWatchusa Trying to save face? For what? He is a true fiscal conservative and has always voted as such –  for that you should give him credit.

      • Jayrae

        Zalman770 PressWatchusa There is NOTHING fiscally conservative about voting to confirm corruptocrat Jack Lew for Secretary of the Treasury. Take your Tokyo Rove propaganda somewhere else.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 PressWatchusa HUH? Nothing fiscally conservative about Tubio… because thats what were talking about here!

          Maybe go vote for Ron Paul…. oh but…..

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 Jayrae PressWatchusa Troll do you know who Jack Lew is? You are avoiding answering why Rubio voted for fiscal corruption.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 PressWatchusa And your avoiding the fact that Marco Rubio is more fiscally conservative then 90% of the republican party

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 Jayrae PressWatchusa No YOU are avoiding the fact that he voted to confirm corrupt Jack Lew for Secretary of the Treasury. Rubio is corrupt.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 PressWatchusa I’m aware of that if haven’t realized by now – i’m not denying it nor ignoring it.
          But you… you won’t even admit that Marco Rubio is FAR more conservative then most other politician’s. You rather stick to a few random votes were he disappointed you.

          Stop focusing on the negitive

      • No_BlahBlah

        Zalman770 PressWatchusa HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAHHHAHAHAHA!!
        Good One!
        (this is sarcasm right?)

        • Zalman770

          No_BlahBlah Zalman770 PressWatchusa You think so? I don’t know how you came up with such a conclusion…. oh why bother? Good night

  • phill1234

    Marco,
    You are nice Guy, and i appreciate your work to defund Obamacare,
    but your time is up, you lied to Fl. voters just like a typical Dem or Gop establishment,

    YOUR DONE !!!!

    • Zalman770

      phill1234 You wish. Marco goes wrong on one issue and thats all… he’s done? Think you can find even one Washington politician that has voted perfectly concervitive?! Good luck… becouse no such politicain exist. 
      Time to forgive Rubio!

      • phill1234

        Zalman770 phill1234 going wrong on one issue no, i understand that,
        but being so wrong on immigration, and not being able to hold the line on the simple “bipartisan” standard of Border security “first”, and anything else we can debate afterwards,!! is a big problem for me, and it smells (or rather stinks) of big money donors influence, and that’s a HUGE PROBLEM,

        • Zalman770

          phill1234 Zalman770 I understand you. But hasn’t Rubio said that this is just a starting point? He recently said that he would support border – even without a path to citizanship.
          Clearly he means well

        • billma40

          Zalman770 phill1234  
          He had his chance to support border security before a path to citizenship but he sold out America. I wouldn’t buy a used car from this man so damn sure wouldn’t vote for him no matter what he does now. 
          Damage to this country from the Gangster 8 reform is second only  to Obamacare.

        • No_BlahBlah

          Zalman770 phill1234 ROFLMAO!!
          How old are you? 18?

        • Zalman770

          No_BlahBlah Zalman770 phill1234 no. I’m 15 but a wholelot smarter then web troller lol

        • No_BlahBlah

          Zalman770
          Isn’t it past your bedtime?

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 phill1234 He doesn’t mean well in the least. Screwbio means to line his own pockets. He jumped in the cesspool of the “District of Corruption.” We Floridians sent him there to clean it up.

        • Jayrae

          No_BlahBlah Zalman770 phill1234 I think he’s Jeb Bush’s corrupt son George Prescott Bush.

        • Zalman770

          No_BlahBlah Zalman770 Ha, probably past yours too.

        • BS61

          @Zalman770 Why do you persist  in bullying us?

        • BS61

          @No Blah – He’s getting paid for this – probably LaRaza.

      • mytorpor

        Zalman770 phill1234 It isn’t that Rubio went wobbly on one issue, it is that the issue he chose to betray us over is such a HUGE issue.  He not only lied to get elected, he lied when he said he wouldn’t support the immigration bill unless it ensured border security first.  He will be lucky to win re-election, much less the presidency.

      • Jayrae

        Zalman770 phill1234 N.E.V.E.R. He is a permanent member of the Bush Mafia.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 phill1234 How your friend Ron Paul doing?

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 Jayrae phill1234 Bush Mafia troll and Etch-A-Sketch supporter. I am not a Paulite. Take your propaganda somewhere else. And get new talking points from corrupt Tokyo Rove.

        • Tamikosmom

          Jayrae Zalman770 phill1234 

          … and Islam appeasing (convert?) John Brennan.

        • BS61

          @Zalman770 How dare you – I don’t know what political party Jayrae belongs – but You Zalman support nothing more than another Obama zealot!

      • applepie101

        Zalman770 May be it’s time to forgive Benedict Arnold, too.

        • Jayrae

          applepie101 Zalman770 ROFLMAO!

        • Zalman770

          applepie101 Zalman770 My point is simple: Why not forgive Rubio for the same “bad” deeds that you forgive reagan for?!

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 applepie101 Now we know you are a Bushie. 
          Hey, go tell Jeb the Age of Bush is O.V.E.R.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 applepie101 May you explain… what does this have to do with bush?

        • BS61

          @Zalman770 Again, I ask you Why we should forgive Liar Rubio?

      • BS61

        @Zalman Rubio is worried about the people giving him hell!  Rubio will NEVER have my vote and I’ve written and tweeted so!

        • Zalman770

          BS61 Thats your vote and your decision – I respect you right, although I think your reasoning isn’t the smartest.

        • BS61

          @Zalman770 How so?

  • IsabelMatos

    Just posted this on Mark Levin’s wall: Mark, I love your show, but Rubio has lost all credibility with Conservatives.. How can anyone believe he is really anti-Obama when Senate amnesty passed FOR OBAMA and anti-American citizen? Let’s be completely honest. He is a slick, pathological fabricator when he wants to sell something. Case in point: He was for Amnesty from the start, before his campaign for Senator and had the AUDACITY and sh…amelessness to campaign against it to be elected. Jeb Bush is the first chapter of his book. Wonder why? If he was FOR Amnesty all long, then he should not have lied to the voters. But he lied for two years and snuck it in little by little, bamboozling you, me and other hosts and voters. That take chutzpah! He peeved many, rightfully so, not just because he voted for it, but because he PUSHED it relentlessly against our wishes. He is in this to rehabilitate himself (the defund Obama tour). It won’t work. I’m not a “leaf” blowing every which way. Mark Levin may like him, but that’s you, Mark Levin. You want to see young blood. It’s not me. And it’s not most of the people I know. Rubio is easily replaced. He’s not that smart. Not that articulate. Definitely dishonest and untrustworthy. That’s it.

    • deTocqueville1

      IsabelMatos Excellent Isabel. Rubio is a Judas for sure.

      • marketcomp

        deTocqueville1 IsabelMatos And his sales pitch sounds the same whether it’s a lie or the truth so how are we suppose to know what he really believes?

    • applepie101

      IsabelMatos Thanks. Very well expressed. I don’t know how Mark can be so smart about some things, yet so blind when it comes to Rubio and Ryan.

    • BS61

      Bless you Isabel – I’m not on Facebook!

  • The Sentinel

    The lines should have been drawn a LONG time ago! Boehner is to blame mostly – spineless wimp. Corrupt.
    I agree in that, this may be the VERY last chance to stop this abomination… and that’s what it is. ANYONE who doesn’t stand up and fight this, is an enemy of America. THIS is that cliff we’ve been talking about for years. This is the end of the road economically.
    I hope and pray that enough senators and members of congress get an earful and stand against funding Obamacare. We MUST reach out to them… MANY times and be heard – like never before!
    This is one of only a very few things that I can agree with Rubio on.

    • Stehekin912

      Yes.  The old adage…even a broken clock is right twice a day.  ThatCreepCare must be stopped.  I will not refuse his support against that abomination.  But accepting that does not reinstate him in good graces.

      • The Sentinel

        Stehekin912 
        Yeah… elephants have long memories. Conservatives have longer ones.

        • Stehekin912

          haha!  yes, Conservatives conserve!  :)

    • BS61

      @The Senitinel – I used to read the Orlando sentinel when I lived ther.  I just saw Matt Kibbe on Greta who had a website of those afraid to face us.
      I’m sorry that I can’t agree with anything Rubio says now – since he’s betrayed us on Immigration.

      • The Sentinel

        BS61 
        He has betrayed America on immigration.
        I won’t be supporting him again.

  • rjcylon

    Rubio is pretty much old news by now, it’s unfortunate. People really liked him. But he’s done.  
    That’s why I like Cruz, he’s consistent.

    • Zalman770

      rjcylonlol, you wish…. 2016 is coming and he’s going to be your next president HAHAHA!!!!!

      • mytorpor

        Zalman770 rjcylon Nope, they are grooming Christie for that position.  They didn’t make him go through that lap band surgery and set him up as America’s “hottest” man for nothing!  The establishment has chosen their man and it is Christie.

        • poorhardworker

          mytorpor Zalman770 rjcylon What a sorry choice!

      • Jayrae

        Zalman770 rjcylon Not mine. I live in Florida and am hell bent on campaigning against this corrupt “Bought and Paid For” liar.
        He stands for nothing but Marco Freakin’ Rubio.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 rjcylon I suggest you look at voting recored before you say he stands for nothing.
          Tell me, why would any politician want to support conservative policy’s when all his work goes to trash over one issue? Marco Rubio deserves more loyalty then you awarding him.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 rjcylon lol…. keep dreaming. Why don;t you make Ron Paul president… isn’t he your god-father?

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 Jayrae rjcylon What is conservative about voting to confirm Jack Lew? I’m not buying your Bush Mafia propaganda. And I am anxiously awaiting campaigning against a LIAR. Listen to this: I’ll vote for the Democrat because that’s what we got with this traitor. I could have had Charlie Crist if I wanted Screwbio’s votes.

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 Jayrae rjcylon I am not a Ron Paul or Rand Paul supporter. But I’ll bet you voted for Etch-A-Sketch/Big Government Ryan! You are throwing the corrupt Bush Mafia spin. We aren’t buying. Rubio stands for nothing but Marco Freakin’ Rubio! America and Florida deserve better.

        • BS61

          @Zalman770 As an American, why would you trust the Gobt?

        • Zalman770

          BS61 I’m with you on this one! We should never blindly trust the government. Doing so is dangeres and will lead to our decline and ultimate dismiss.

      • deTocqueville1

        Zalman770 Cruz?!

  • Zalman770

    I love how all the Paul trollers Hijack this thread. 
    Unlike the comment’s down there and(soon) up there criticizing Rubio, most conservatives actually still like him… most conservatives not bought out by the Paul trollers, that is.

    • Zalman770

      lol, you wish…. 2016 is coming and he’s going to be your next resident HAHAHA!!!!!

    • BS61

      @Zalman770 I’m not sure what you mean about Paul trollers since I am not.  I tweet  Rubio and CATO for colluding with him on his Immigration talking points!

  • Swordfish

    Rubio reminds me of pro amnesty spokesman Juan Hernandez.
    “My friend, my friend, my friend”. 
    Time to go sell cars Marco. Whenever you join up with McCain, Graham, Schumer and pervert Menendez, it is immediate guilt through association.

    • deTocqueville1

      Swordfish Exactly. Phoniness personified.

    • Willie Heath

      Swordfish LOL………Juan Hernandez…”these are beautful hardworking people, we need to embrace them”..Jaun Hernandez, my friend……

  • http://onthemark1.blogspot.com/ OnTheMark

    You can’t possibly say you’re against Amnesty if you propose it.

  • deTocqueville1

    I do not trust the man, period! A snake oil salesman.

    • BS61

      @deTocqueville1 I feel better now!

  • applepie101

    “if Obamacare isn’t the issue we’d be willing to fight to the limit on, then he doesn’t know what it would be:”
    How about protecting our borders? Enforcing immigration law? That’s an issue worth fighting to the limit on, but Rubio chose to side with the same crooks who gave us Obamacare. As for Mark Levin, it sounds like he’s back to pretending that none of the Rubiomnesty debaucle ever happened.

  • mike3e4r7

    Zalman770 demonstrates perfectly, the need to coin a new word  –  ‘Marcobots’

  • Nosmo

    Very disappointed in Levin for not talking immigration….

    • Willie Heath

      Nosmo Levin and Hanny are trying to prop this dooophus up and save him!

  • BS61

    Thanks Scoop  – you are great!  And I was just here ealier praising a kumbya moment between Beck and  Mark Levin. 
    Now I’m crying over my faith in Levin and cancelled my 3 book pre-order of his new book.  In my opinion, no Patriot would have him on his show ever.

    • Zalman770

      BS61 This is excaklywhat i’m talking about. Levin or someone else you support does one thing wrong and…. BOOOM!!! “He’s done!” 
      Something is very wrong with such an attitude. You’ll never be able to support anybody.

      • Jayrae

        Zalman770 BS61 Something is very wrong with YOU that you are willing to vote for corruption!
        Rubio is the poster child of everything that is wrong with the “District of Corruption.”
        He’s dead to conservatives. That is what the TEA Party was all about.
        He’s morally bankrupt. Get a clue.

        • Zalman770

          Jayrae Zalman770 BS61 Wow, now your getting personal…

        • BS61

          @Jayrae Thanks!

        • Zalman770

          BS61 Why don’t you help him out?!

        • BS61

          Saving the Republic IS very personal to me!

      • BS61

        @Zalman779 It’s not one thing wrong, it’s like the 200th time that Levin goes easy on Rubio.  It’s like when I was done with Glenn Beck for attacking the TP for the third time!

        • Zalman770

          BS61 Maybe Levin and I got a point? – Rubio may have been wrong on this. but he’s right on to manny other things to trash him

        • BS61

          @Zallman770 What do you believe Rubio is correct on?  I don’t see me voting for a liar any time soon.

        • Zalman770

          BS61 What he’s right on. Well one example… Defunding obamacare, taxes, debt sealing and 2000 other things
          Am I worried about you vote? No… after all, you probably don’t exist.

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770 BS61 You are a typical Bush Mafia drone. Corrupt to the core.

        • Jayrae

          Zalman770BS61Rubio is a typical lying politician.
          The TEA Party sent a message to politicians that you vote the way your constituents want you to vote. You don’t vote with the corrupt gop elites.
          Actions have consequences.
          Voting to confirm Jack Lew, Hanoi John, and Brennan is the way the gop elites want you to vote, not Floridians.
          Your spinning gop propaganda.

        • BS61

          @Zalman770 ”
          “Am I worried about you vote? No… after all, you probably don’t exist”
          I exist and am very active with the Tea Party – sure, I’m only 1 vote, but I’ll be spreading the LIAR Rubio’s poor choices during the election.

        • BS61

          @Jayrae I disagree completely with Zalman770 and fully support the Tea.  I hope that you posted in error?

        • BS61

          Again  not sure how I got lumped in with Zalman770 since I totally agree with you!

      • Exxe

        Zalman770 Agreed.  Everyone is hyper-sensitive because of one issue.  There is not one candidate or person everyone here will agree with 100%.  Not one.  There are even people here claiming Ted Cruz is a RINO.  Get real people.

        • Zalman770

          I truly hope these commenters opinions do not represent the majority of the conservative. Because if it does, we’re in deep trouble.

        • applepie101

          Exxe Zalman770 If Ted Cruz starts supporting anti-constitutional policies, he will be a rino. Try to understand that this is not an issue of personalities, but rather of actions. If someone stabs me in the back, I don’t care how good a speaker hie is or how ‘conservative’ he claims to be: He has just made himself my enemy.

        • BS61

          @Exxe I don’t believe it’s that everyone is hyper-sensitive.  I do believe that everyone is sensitive to liars.  Video is everywhere of Rubio claiming to never support amnesty.  I care about the character of elected officials

        • sDee

          BS61  
          Character and principles are evidences in actions. Rubio’s actios has shown he has nieter along wiht no fundemantal  understading of the Constitution.
          Rubio has proven beyond doubt that he believes in the rule of man – albeit Repubican rule rather than the Democrat rule.man.

      • applepie101

        Zalman770 This is one persistent, very serious wrong thing that Mark Levin does again and again, and it’s not so much his having Rubio on his program as it is the fact that he won’t challenge him on his duplicity. 
        If we want to improve the quality of politician we put in office, we have to be intolerant of deceit and mediocrity. This is what holding someone’s feet to the fire looks like.

    • Jayrae

      BS61 Thanks, I’m really angry about this. I just cancelled mine also.

      • BS61

        @Jayrae – See I’m with you not Zalguy!

  • TexasPGRRider

    “How can you vote to fund ocare if you`re Against it”? GOOD Question. We`ll see….

  • Tamikosmom

    Marco … why draw a line in the sand in regards to Obamacare. Your voting record reveals thatyou may talk the Conservative talk but you are no Conservative.
    John Kerry sails in Senate voting
    January 30, 2013
    Little suspense hung over the proceedings after Kerry cruised through a confirmation hearing last week before the Foreign Relations Committee. The accolades and ceremony began Tuesday morning when the committee — in just 10 minutes with almost no discussion — approved Kerry’s nomination, setting up the late afternoon vote by the full Senate. Even harsh administration critics such as Republicans Marco Rubio of Florida and Rand Paul of Kentucky joined the unanimous voice vote in committee.
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2013/01/30/senate-foreign-relations-committee-recommends-john-kerry-confirmed-setting-senate-vote/OS1pbXalhhS3GDG29htN4N/story.html

  • Tamikosmom

    HERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR JOHN BRENNAN — THEY MAY SURPRISE YOU
    Mar. 8, 2013
    #11. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/08/here-are-the-republicans-who-voted-for-john-brennan-they-may-surprise-you/
    Obama advisor John Brennan speaks about the beauty of Islam
    May 10, 2010

  • mike3e4r7

    The definition of Irony – Zalman770 complaining about OTHER people hi-jacking this thread.
    The best argument against drug use – Zalman770
    The most factually challenged poster of the evening – Zalman770

    • Zalman770

      mike3e4r7Ad hominem attacks are all you got?

  • mike3e4r7

    Marcobot of the year – Zalman770

    • Zalman770

      mike3e4r7 I’ll take that as a complemnt. I would rather be a Marcobot then paulrobot

  • blasater

    Uhh yeah Rubio…If you’re willing to join a gang of 8 and craft a gigantic Amnesty Bill, you cant possibly say you are against Amnesty…now…GET LOST!

  • mike3e4r7

    No, they’re not all I’ve got, Zalman

    • Zalman770

      mike3e4r7 Bring them on……

  • mike3e4r7

    The others are doing perfectly fine.

    • Zalman770

      mike3e4r7 Lmao… You think?!

  • Willie Heath

    Levin is trying to help you save your sagging Political Career, but it is too late, your mask came off as just another RINO Bush/Rove Politician. Stick the finger in th air. Like Bob Dylan said “you dont need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows” You tryed to ride the Tea Party/Sarah Palin endorsement and became a turncoat on both. You are just another sleezeball Politician, and your buddies, Hannity, Levin and Rush cant help you dig out!

    • Desjardins

      Willie Heath he’s always been nothing more than an opportunist, I’m shocked Levin and Rush are so gullible.

    • cabensg

      Willie Heath  Or maybe Levin just wanted to shore up more support for defunding Obamacare. I’m no religious fan of Levin but I’m also not a mind reader. Any support we can get from anyone is welcome even Rubio the traitor to American citizens is welcome to vote with Cruz and Lee if it helps rid us of Obamacare.

  • Bill589

    Just saw this post and checked through comments. I’m glad all, except the GOPe troll, put no trust in the words from Rubio’s mouth.

    • TIMERUNNERSC

      Bill589  After all the hard work and boat loads of money the Tea Party put into Mr Rubio’s campaign  without which he would not have been elected as US Senator,  but now,  Sorry but when I see or hear about Mr Rubio, the first thing that comes to my mind is the Gang Of 8.            Rubio has been stigmatized for his fellowship with his 7 fellow gang members, who never have Americas best interest in their flash mob activity.    Fooled me once lesson learned.

  • Bill589

    To me – it’s not that a Levin or Hannity (I know Hannity better) have a Rino on their show that bothers me. They could have a militant communist on their show, and it doesn’t bother me. It’s the lack of tough questions on the important issues of the day to some of these Rinos that bothers me.
    I don’t want any politician babied. The ones that should be our politicians don’t need babying.

    • lawngreen

      Bill589 Well said.

  • Exxe

    My God. You are people are irrational.  I dare to say even more irrational than a leftist.  Now you’re all attacking Levin’s credibility?  Seriously?  Someone please name me a conservative they have 100% faith in, agree with every position, and actually know every single policy, and deal they’ve made, that they agree with 100%.

    • TIMERUNNERSC

      Exxe     After the Gang of 8 involving Mr Rubio, the credibility issue isn’t with Mr Levin, its with Mr Rubio.  Maybe a little backwash is rubbing off on Mr Levin, but Mr Levin is very well respected and his suggestions and advice is appreciated, he is a good, honest, and deceit man.

    • lawngreen

      Exxe It’s not a matter of 100% faith. It’s a matter of being right on the most vital issues confronting us. Levin is no doubt a genuine conservative, but he apparently has blind spots. This is just as dangerous politically as it is in combat. I was 4F’d because I lack peripheral vision.
      The term “blindsided” describes Levin accurately. If he fails to see what is obvious and fatal to the United States, he is a danger to us all.

    • K-Bob

      Exxe  
      I find people are more willing to hear me out when I don’t start in with a major insult to the entire group.  Especially a cheap shot, broad brush insult that is really directed at one or two points made in an ongoing discussion.
      If you disagree with someone, reply to them directly.  Stick to the point, and leave out the insults.

  • Conniption Fitz

    Rubio – we don’t want your Amnesty bill or Voter/Election Fraud either.
    We also don’t want illegals with benefits, anchor babies or votes.
    But we do want National Voter Photo ID, secure borders and honest elections.

    • https://sites.google.com/site/warpminesblog/ warpmine

      Conniption Fitz That would be un-oneworldorderly. You know they are entitled to everything because….they say so.
      When will these azzhats understand America wants to be America, a nation state that just wants to be left alone so her citizens can embrace their Liberty. Sorry, I forgot, the GOP/ DemonRat parties are both progressive trash rent seeking clowns.They will eventually get a taste of what it was like for the French aristocrats during the time of the Reign of Terror, God willing.

  • billma40


    Candidate Mark Rubio 2010
    An earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty.

  • fireme

    Trying to pretend he’s conservative after destroying our country with his Welfare Amnesty Bill. I ain’t buying it and will never support him for President.

  • Judges718

    Let me see if I can decipher this…
    Rubio wants to legalize ~30 Million pilfering invaders who would love nothing more than to vote for anyone advocating Obamacare, BUT…However…Ironically… Rubio opposes Obamacare.  
    Someone more “nuanced”, please explain this obvious glaring contradiction in logic to me.

    • Desjardins

      Judges718 and almost worst yet. the “great one” continues to carry his water.  Seriously, is there anybody left?

      • Judges718

        Desjardins 
        Mark is loyal to a fault.
        Amnesty means a permanent anti-Constitutional, anti-Liberty Treasonous Marxist/Socialist majority.  
        Who cares if Rubio opposes Obamacare or Gun Control or a host of other Marxist goals..  By legalizing ~30 million socialist voters, his opposition to any Marxist objective is moot, they will become reality.  
        Amnesty is lethal. It trumps all other issues…period.  If you are wrong on it, you are wrong on everything.

        • Tamikosmom

          Judges718 Desjardins 

          Logic dictates.  Thank you Judges!!

      • applepie101

        Desjardins Judges718 We’re left, and that’s what this republic started off with: the big “We the People”.
        Seriously, there are half a dozen people who comment on this site whom I’d support as a presidential candidate instead of the so-called ‘leaders’ the RNC keeps foisting on us.

      • lawngreen

        Desjardins Judges718 Mike Lee and Ted Cruz are apparently the only ones.

      • K-Bob

        Desjardins Judges718  
        I don’t see it as “Carrying his water.”  That would mean someone who is constantly defending the positions and remarks made by a person.
        Levin does NOT do that with Rubio.  He is very careful to say that he has major disagreement with Rubio and flatly and unequivocally does not support Rubio’s bill.
        The fact that Levin doesn’t spend his radio time beating up on Rubio is not the same thing as giving Rubio a pass.
        Out list of allies in Congress is extremely thin. If Rubio does the right thing 98% of the time, then you have to have his vote, and you don’t get that by beating him up all the time.
        Rand Paul has the same problem as Rubio.  But if he’s going to support Cruz’s effort to defund SCOAMFcare, then Cruz can’t just tell him to go pound sand.

        Remember, Congress is like having a team where you can’t cut anybody or trade anybody.  So you are stuck making the best of whatever you have.

    • lawngreen

      Judges718 Smoke and mirrors. Or, to use a more precise term, hypocrisy.

  • Conniption Fitz

    Rubio – YOU and McCain and the Gang of 8 Amnesty Bill are the reason I’m no longer a Republican.
    Yep, wrote you a letter, wrote the RNC and wrote my election supervisor the same day.
    The GOP will have to earn back my support.
    NO Amnesty, NO Obamacare, YES Photo-Voter ID – Clean HONEST Elections
    NOW – GET TO WORK AND EARN MY RESPECT AND SUPPORT.

    • notebene

      Conniption Fitz Amen!  Well said!  My hubby and I did the same thing, for the exact same reasons!  If any candidate wants our support they are going to earn it by proving to be a true conservative and not a politician!

    • lawngreen

      Conniption Fitz  Amen!

  • RevBH69

    Rubio, and McCain, Boehner, … “I mean”… there has to be a point where we actually do something that you said you would do when you were voted on!  Your nothing more than a politician, the new leader and the funner-up for the Obama turn coat right after McCain….   I agree with Conniption Fitz, No means no, not just when you are running your lying campaigns…

  • RevBH69

    He will make a good “new republican” and the reason I will not spend another dime to support the party, and just the candidate individually … My support money will go to the Tea Party!

  • Conniption Fitz

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-tea-party-vs-surrender-caucus.html
    Quote:
    “What is striking is the resistance Senators Cruz and Lee have received, not from Democrats, but from Republicans. Self-described budget hawk Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) declared the campaign to defund Obamacare to be “http://washingtonexaminer.com/tom-coburn-campaign-to-defund-obamacare-dishonest-hype/article/2533554” and “hype”. Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) called the effort “http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/314281-corker-gop-shutdown-threat-a-silly-effort” and lacking “courage”. Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) likened the effort to defund Obamacare to a “http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/25/a-senate-divided-gop-senator-says-mike-lees-plan-to-defund-obamacare-is-the-dumbest-idea-ive-ever-heard/” and Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) suggested that such an effort was the “http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/25/a-senate-divided-gop-senator-says-mike-lees-plan-to-defund-obamacare-is-the-dumbest-idea-ive-ever-heard/.”

    • cabensg

      Conniption Fitz This is proof positive that Cruz and Lee are absolutely correct in their efforts to defund Obamacare. 
      Yesterday their petition was at 197,000 today it’s at 210,000. Go here to sign if you agree Obamacare should be defunded and pass it on.
      http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/?c=a74e050e52e00d067b1abceba616fee1

      • lawngreen

        cabensg Conniption Fitz Thank you. I signed.

        • cabensg

          lawngreen cabensg Conniption Fitz  
          Thanks I think they have the best petition going. If you scrolled down the page you could also see who was on board with it.

  • DHardy

    Go home RINO Boy..I can hear your Obama calling you…

  • Pancake3

    I know how I feel about Oblamocare.  But who would believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Marco Rubia?

  • EchoMike

    I see a lot of self proclaimed “conservatives” posting in here using the totalitarian mindset of the left. Sure he messed up on this immigration fight, and that is disappointing, but to turn your backs on him completely is a little stupid. Especially when he’s now blatantly going after the establishment, and using tough language to frame the issue on our side. Why would we kick someone off the bus for being a vocal supporter of a crucial position. If someone is serious about standing up to defund this massive train wreck, I’m giving them a hand up onto the platform, not trying to kick them off. Hell if Pelosi showed up and said she now realizes what a mess it is, and wanted to join the fight I’d let her. Guy screws up on a piece of legislation, and all of a sudden he’s the equivalent of a holocaust denier to Global Warming nut jobs. Sad. No wonder we can never really win. Our guys take it from all sides and have to fight the media, the left, the squishes on the right, and now it seems the conservative perfectionists who will kick you out of the club if you dare wear the wrong shirt one day. To hear some of you talk, Reagan was a RINO because he “supported amnesty”.

    • Pancake3

      EchoMike Thanks for expressing rather eloquently your thoughts. Guess I’m just far enough along to place more faith in what they do, not what they say

      • EchoMike

        Pancake3 EchoMike Thanks for the reply. I also look at what they do and not what they say. That being said, if Marco is standing shoulder to shoulder with Cruz, Paul, Lee, etc then I say kudos for him. For all the RINO chanting going on, he’s hitting right back at the establishment that just a few weeks ago was kissing his rear on this immigration fiasco, and he’s not mincing words. When you go on Mark’s show, and flat out say that if you are not willing to stand with us and defund this monstrosity, then you are, in fact, supporting it. Granting it “defacto amnesty” to turn a phrase previously used by the senator. He is backing up his words by his actions of putting himself out there on the public airwaves to denounce the cowardice. As far as the immigration thing goes, I think he got rolled. I think he got lured in with promises of strong border security, and reforming the immigration systems (things we all support), but underestimated how powerful the lobby would be for amnesty from both sides, the left, and the crony corporatists. But I’m not willing to kick a guy to the curb because he made a mistake. As of right now the immigration bill isn’t even law, so until that happens, I’m of a no harm, no foul, mentality.

        • Jayrae

          EchoMike Pancake3 The Bush Mafia thanks you.

    • BS61

      How can you get past someone who lied to the Tea Party and FL voters?  I guess what you consider out completely is why I am no longer giving folks a second chance.  It seems when we do that we end up with McCains in office for a zillion years and never held accountable.

      • EchoMike

        BS61 Read the last part of my second post above. I don’t think he intentionally lied, I think he went in with the best of intentions to get what conservatives have been asking for since ’86. Strong border security, and reforming legal immigration. Unfortunately, the machine took over and he got rolled. Now, maybe that’s his fault for being gullible, but I’m not prepared to use the word “lie”. And I’m not really comfortable throwing out the baby with the bath water. FYI: the immigration bill hasn’t been voted on and signed into law yet, so at this point and time, his mistake has no effect at tthis time.

        • Jayrae

          EchoMike BS61 Well you are flat out wrong.He most definitely intentionally lied. And, until you knocked down doors and fought the Bush Mafia to get Rubio elected you won’t have anyone in Florida pay you any mind. You dance with the one that brought you.

    • sDee

      EchoMike 
      Rubio does not build on the Constituion and the role of Federal Govenment. If he did he could never have supported Amnesty. He is simply a politcal animal who goes with the polls.

      Therein lies the danger with the Republican progressives. They will turn on us in a heartbeat.

      • EchoMike

        sDee EchoMike Then you have to say the same thing about Reagan because he signed a bill granting blatant amnesty.

        • sDee

          EchoMike sDee  
           Relativism does not excuse the intent.

          To some extent Reagan did agree to a bad deal. Reagan agreed to amnesty as part of a deal that they would then apply through a US embassy for citizenship.
          Congress never followed through on the second part.
          Rubio apparently did not learn from Reagan’s mistake and ups the anti-Constitutional ante by bill institenshirnes  both the bad concept and the deception of Congress.

        • Jayrae

          EchoMike sDee Only Bushies use that argument. Everyone knows that Reagan said he got double crossed on amnesty and that was the biggest mistake he ever made. If Rubio was a Reaganite he would know that fact.

    • lawngreen

      EchoMike  I think you mean the “all-or-nothing” mindset of the left. There are no conservatives who are totalitarians.
      Rubio didn’t “mess up”, unless you mean letting people know what he really stands for, and that was unavoidable. We don’t want to “kick him off the bus for being a vocal supporter of a crucial position”.
      We want to replace him with a genuine conservative because he has proven that he is a democrat in disguise who will do nothing meaningful to prevent o-care from being funded, who will do everything he can to pass amnesty. His positions on these two issues, the most important issues of this time, are democrat, liberal, “progressive”. He’s NOT one of us.
      Pretending that politicians are conservative when they’re not, and pretending that a pol is fighting for conservative ideas when he’s only choosing an expedient time to posture for the cameras, is what got us into the mess we’re in.

      • EchoMike

        lawngreen EchoMike That was part of my point. A lot of “so-called” conservatives in here, but really they share the same “you have to agree with us and our positions 100% of the time”. Again I’ll ask this question since amnesty is the sign of a “progressive” in your opinion: Was Reagan a progressive because he signed a bill granting amnesty?
        I think Rubio made a mistake, but he’s hardly going to bed at night in his Karl Marx pajama’s, reading Rules for Radicals before he kisses his bedside picture of Obama. That’s absurd, unless you have some kind of proof to show otherwise.

        • lawngreen

          EchoMike lawngreen Reagan trusted the dems to build a fence and END illegal immigration with what we had THEN. That was then; now the dems have proven they can never be trusted.
          I do not agree with you that there are “a lot” of “so-called” conservatives on this site demanding 100% agreement. I see no evidence of that. What I do see, and heartily approve of, is many who realize that a building has to have a foundation. There are certain issues that are foundational. Without them, you can build any pretty gingerbread house you like, and it will collapse.
          You are attempting to paint us with the either-or, two-value Aristotelian fallacy. That is not accurate. That makes you guilty of the strawman logical fallacy, which invalidates your arguments.
          It appears to me that these things are obvious, which leads me to the conclusion that you ar a democrat troll. There is therefore no point in further discussion with you.

        • K-Bob

          lawngreen EchoMike
          Well done. You explained that whooshing sound.
          It was the sound of someone having a concept fly right over their head.
          (It usually doesn’t end well when someone wades in with “so-called conservatives in here”)

        • Jayrae

          EchoMike lawngreen You need new talking points. We heard your “purist” argument with Etch-A-Sketch. He was NOT one of us and we stayed home. This time we won’t, we will vote for the Democrat.
          Conservatives can not be intimidated and herded like cats. We are individuals. Rubio cares about no one but Marco Rubio.

        • Jayrae

          No, Rubio goes to bed at night in his Bush Mafia “corporate welfare” pajamas.

    • cabensg

      EchoMike  It’s not stupid to turn your back on a turncoat. Amnesty was no small thing that begs forgiveness. It would fundamentally change our country for the worse….forever. He turned his back on American citizens when he supported it. He like Obama thinks a group, an illegal group at that deserves more consideration than actual citizens or our country. I would never trust him to have the best interest of America at heart if elected president. He made his choice of who to support and I’ve made mine.

      • EchoMike

        cabensg EchoMike So then you expect 100% conformity. As long as your honest about it I have no problem.
        Then to follow your principled logic, Reagan was a turncoat.

        • Jayrae

          EchoMike cabensg Reagan wouldn’t vote to confirm Jack Lew, Hanoi John, or Chuck Hagel.

    • K-Bob

      EchoMike  
      There goes that giant, whooshing sound again.

    • Jayrae

      EchoMike What about Rubio’s vote to confirm Jack Lew, Hanoi John, and Chuck Hagel?

  • applepie101

    This is a distraction, especially as there is no chance of its succeeding, Republicans had several fair chances to defund Ocare, and every time refused. They’ll do the same again. They think we’re such dopes that they don’t bother to change the MO.
    The real issue iright now is illegal immigration. MarkAmerica has mapped what he thinks may be the process congress will apply to push through the illegal amnesty bill. http://markamerica.com/2013/08/04/gop-preparing-to-fool-constituents-on-immigration/
    It shows the utter contempt that bureaucrats like Rubio have for us. They’ll try to pass a modified bill in the house, knowing that it will be revised in the senate to what the Gang of 8 wants. 
    To quote, ‘We must kill any House bill on immigration, even if we are compelled to heckle our own members at town-hall meetings.’ Enforce existing immigration law.

    • sDee

      applepie101Exactly. The GOP is part and parcel of America’s path to a Central State. Rubio was gored on his Amnesty bill. Now he waves the Obamacare red cape and the elephants charge off.
      Here is a leader talking at RedState who will bring us back to the principels that made America great. We need leaders like Brannon in the Senate to take back the Party and our Freedom.

  • lawngreen

    “There has to be some issue at which we say look, this is the issue where we draw the line.”
    Yep. You may not have noticed, marco, but a whole bunch of us draw that line in the sand at the Rio Grande.
    All I’m saying is that if you vote for amnesty you can’t claim you’re against it.
    Where do libs, progglodytes, and RINOs get the idea that we don’t know about their flip-flops and deceit and hypocrisy and lies? Do they really think they can lie away reality?
    For instance, marco is posturing on this issue because he believes / knows obamacare will not be defunded. He’ll pound his chest and then present this speech as his conservative creds, and when “it’s obvious” that o-care will not be defunded, he’ll “insist” on some meaningless modification that he’ll exaggerate and present as his excuse: “They were going to fund it anyway. Isn’t half a loaf better than none?”

    RINOs have become pathological liars just like the dems. They really think whatever they’re saying at the moment is the truth and has always been their position and it doesn’t matter that they say “A” in one sentence and “not-A” in the next sentence.
    Official political announcement: the RINOs have evolved. In trying to LOOK like dems and SOUND like dems, they actually have BECOME dems. This was the logical next step.
    I remember a really fun song from back in the Sixties called “The Monster Mash”. Somebody please write the anthem for our current politicians, college students, and LIVs: The Zombie Waffle Wobble.

    • sDee

      lawngreen  
      It warms my heart and stirs my fight to heart from so many who see the the GOP for what it is and the flim flam men the send to con us

      • lawngreen

        sDeelawngreen I don’t know about taking back the party, but the RINOs have played the same game too long, and their support is fast eroding. For sure, whoever wins in 2014 and beyond,it won’t be the GOP. I favor a 3rd party myself. This is where my membership is now: http://constfreparty.blogspot.com/2012/12/motto-constitution-is-not-instrument.html
        I read their mission statement and said to myself, “There’s nothing in that statement that I disagree with. I HAVE to join!”
        So far it’s a tiny party, but we’ve got to start somewhere.

    • cabensg

      lawngreen  If Rubio wants to throw his hat in the ring with Cruz and Lee to defund Obamacare, fine. If he thinks I’d ever even consider him for president, never. The two biggest things we need to defeat are Amnesty and Obamacare and having his vote to defund Obamacare will help us on at least that issue. I just avoid listening to anything he has to say so the monitor to my computer stays intact.

      • lawngreen

        cabensg lawngreen One must protect one’s monitor!
        If rubio votes to defund o-care, as you say, fine. I just don’t trust him any more. Fool me once …. you know the rest. After his betrayal on amnesty, which is even more dangerous than o-care, I have zero faith in rubio.

        • cabensg

          lawngreen cabensg No faith I just want his vote.

        • Longiron

          lawngreen cabensg Trying to get back the people he went ‘traitor” on the TP, conservatives. Don’t trust this guy ever. He is a The Schmuck’s BITCH, and sold us all out. This ObamaCare vote is just symbolic and he could give a crap about the US. The Schmuck has given him as pass on this one to try and upgrade his standing with the TP conservatives. Can one say Senator Allen West in the FL future !!!

        • lawngreen

          Longiron lawngreen cabensg  I agree about rubio. But Allen West posted on his FB page that trayvon martin’s shooting was a tragedy, and that the police chief should have been fired for not arresting Zimmerman immediately. And shortly after that, the police chief was fired. So I no longer trust West either. It’s a terrible loss. West was fearless, smart, but his trayvon comment was at least strike two. For West, race apparently trumps truth and justice. I will not accept that.

        • K-Bob

          lawngreen Longiron cabensg  
          That’s pretty sad.
          But in West’s defense remember that they BURIED the truth in this case, and almost all of it stayed solidly buried until shortly before the trial.
          Remember how long it took for photos of Zimmerman’s injuries to be made public?  That was many long months after most people decided to weigh in with opinions.
          It caught a LOT of conservatives out, too.  Even Glenn Beck the other day said it was kind of creepy to be a Neighborhood Watch guy.  He questioned what Zimmerman was doing that night.  Amazing ignorance all around on this subject.

        • lawngreen

          K-Bob lawngreen Longiron cabensg Granted, they did bury the truth. I don’t want to be a hardnose about this, but West remarked in that comment that he had given himself time to learn the facts.
          What carries more weight with me is that by now, alert conservatives know that there is a very high probability that in any cross-racial incident, there is often extreme obfuscation by media and politicians, and an extreme pro-black bias.
          This is the second time West has either done something dumb or done something I’d call anti-conservative. We’re in a desperate struggle to save America, and we can’t afford either dummies or two-faced politicians.

        • K-Bob

          lawngreen K-Bob Longiron cabensg  
          West needs to get control of his tendency to weigh in before he really studies the facts.  And by study, he needs to use his connections to find some real facts, not just watch CNN.
          I notice that Governor Palin pointedly avoids this problem.  Notice that she usually weighs in after all the pundits have spent their credibility on something.

        • lawngreen

          K-Bob lawngreen Longiron cabensg  That would fit with his military background. In combat, you can’t spend too much time analyzing. You have to decide and act, or your troops will die. I think it’s the Rangers who teach, “DO SOMETHING, even if it’s wrong! Don’t just stand there!”
          I hope someone can get him to understand, because he’s losing points that no one can afford for him to lose if he’s on our side.

  • Tamikosmom

    Why does Mark Levin give Marco Rubio a pass while going up one side and down the other side of other RINOS whose vote records further the agenda of the Islamic appeasing/Marxist Barack Obama?  Even when Levin does call out Rubio … he immediately backtracks. Something is hinky.
    FULL INTERVIEW: Rush discusses immigration reform with Marco Rubio
    April 18th, 2013
    http://therightscoop.com/full-interview-rush-discusses-immigration-reform-with-marco-rubio/

    UPDATE 2: Levin: Rubio is NOT a “slick used car salesman” – Mark Levin grills Marco Rubio on immigration proposal
    April 18th, 2013
    http://therightscoop.com/full-interview-mark-levin-grills-marco-rubio-on-immigration-proposal/

  • Tamikosmom

    FOOD FOR THOUGHT

    Ted Cruz did not betray Conservatives with his vote on the immigration bill but … he supports a pathway to eventual citizenship for those who arrived on American soil illegally nevertheless. Anything less than deportation of illegals is the definition of amnesty in my world.

    Ted Cruz praises Marco Rubio’s work on immigration
    May 6th, 2013
    http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-praises-marco-rubios-work-on-immigration/

    Sen. Ted Cruz also supports temporary legalization status in the immigration bill
    Jun 12, 2013
    http://therightscoop.com/sen-ted-cruz-also-supports-temporary-legalization-status-in-the-immigration-bill/

    • Conniption Fitz

      Tamikosmom VERY DISAPPOINTING.

  • PhillyCon

    It would be nice if someone attacked McCain and his sorry lot directly.  Why do conservatives continue to play nice with RINOs but the liberals/RINO’s can be nasty as they want?
    Wacko birds?  Hobbits?

  • Tamikosmom

    Sarah Palin says it how it is.  So does Mark Levin.  However … when it comes to Marco Rubio … Levin caves.  Why?  Something is not right with this picture.

    Sarah Palin calls out Marco Rubio for flip-flopping on Amnesty
    June 23rd, 2013
    http://therightscoop.com/sarah-palin-calls-out-marco-rubio-for-flip-flopping-on-amnesty/

    UPDATE: AUDIO ADDED – Palin says Rubio and Ayotte should be primaried over immigration bill
    June 26th, 2013
    http://therightscoop.com/i-think-that-they-should-be-challenged-palin-says-rubio-and-ayotte-should-be-primaried-over-immigration-bill/

    • K-Bob

      Tamikosmom Hitting a thread with the same points over and over is part of what is meant by “spamming the thread,” which is against the http://www.therightscoop.com/the-right-scoop-commenting-rules/ here (and at many other websites).

      You are at least creating new comments, and I don’t want to diminish your enthusiasm, but the idea is to make your point well, then engage in discussion with folks.  If you are really determined to hammer an idea or issue, a comment section in a blog is not really the place for it.

  • K-Bob

    Here’s the thing about Rubio: people on the right who think he’s a good guy aren’t going to throw him under the bus without a reason.
    Now, Rubio’s Amnesty thing is definitely a reason to withdraw support for any re-election or Presidential run.  I get that.
    But if he wants to be part of the Conservative caucus and support guys like Cruz, then the Mark Levins of the world aren’t going to throw that support away.  Cruz needs all the help he can get.  It’s up to Mr. Cruz to make it clear to Mr. Rubio that he accepts his help, without the quid pro quo meaning he’s then bound to support Rubio’s amnesty.
    Rubio is a mess.  But we will always have people like him in the Senate: reliable conservative votes, as long as they aren’t trusted with control of the movement or the chamber.
    The fact is, if we had reliably conservative leadership in Boehner and McConnell, the amnesty issue would stay buried, and Rubio might possibly have been saved from himself.
    What we need are conservative leaders.  We can live with the Rubios we’ll be stuck with if we can get conservative leaders.  If we don’t get conservative leaders, there are far worse problems we’ll struggle with than guys like Rubio.
    So Levin won’t cast aside Rubio’s visibility and remaining constituency just because Rubio screwed up. That wouldn’t be smart. Rubio keeps claiming he’s conservative, so let him prove it.

    Where we need to watch carefully is when it’s time for endorsements to be doled out. If Levin endorses Rubio over a Tea Party challenger when Rubio is up for re-election, then Levin will be in trouble.

    • Laurel A

      K-Bob Well said K-Bob! I will add that regardless of his votes he is still holding an elected official so I want to hear from him on the radio and otherwise. I want to know what he is up to.

      • Tamikosmom

        Laurel A K-Bob
        We are usually on the same page Laurel but on this I respectfully disagree.  I sceptically listen to the words of Republican representatives and Conservative talk show host.
        Many Republican representatives may talk the Conservative talk but if their votes on the major Democratic issues … votes on Democratic appointees … do not reflect their “Conservative” talk then it is all for naught.  In other words … the agenda of the Islamic appeasing/Marxist Barack Obama is furthered time and time again.
        When I consider voting records … I question whether many Republican representatives are Obama plants who talked the Conservative talk to get elected or … were their positions initially sincere but somewhere along their votes bought with a price/promise.  Something akin to the flip-flopping/double standard of some Conservative talk show hosts.
        Think about “Conservative” Armstrong Williams.  Remember Armstrong Williams?  His silence over the past almost five years is deafening.  I shouted “Amen” at least a dozen times throughout each of his shows.  Then came the 2008 endorsement for Islamic appeasing/Marxist Barack Obama.
        “The
        best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” – Vladimir Ilyich
        Lenin

        • Laurel A

          Tamikosmom Laurel A K-Bob What are you talking about?
          I simply pointed out that if he is in office I want to hear what he has to say by virtue of the fact THAT HE IS STILL IN OFFICE. He still votes. He still can affect legislation.

          You aren’t ever going to know they are baffling you with BS if they never ever get on any news outlet and spew. You won’t know if he is saying one thing and doing another if he is never allowed to say anything.
          And I apply this to any and all politicians. Would we really know what a weasel McCain is if he didn’t shoot his mouth off? The more they speak the more rope we have to hang them with…and no wiggle room at that. That is how these corrupt politicians got away with BS for decades. Few news outlets for them to foist themselves on their own petard. Hence the wiggle room come election time. That is why we are standing at the edge of the cliff. More information, good or bad, is better…ALWAYS.

          Be careful you don’t cut off your nose to spite your face on this.

    • Exxe

      K-Bob Finally, a well thought out post on this issue.

    • RevBH69

      K-Bob   Still … I will independently support the conservatives, but I have a feeling that the Republican Party is going to be way too progressive for me to support the Party…

  • Jayrae

    Former RNC chair, Bush Mafia don, and lobbyist Ed Gillespie is on Team Rubio. Gillespie once reassured his partner Jack Quinn who was public enemy number one after he petitioned his former boss President Bill Clinton to pardon fugitive financier Marc Rich. Gillespie reassured him that after a few months all anyone would remember about Jack Quinn’s little scandal was that he “got something done. And it would be good for business,” writes Mark Leibovich in his new book “This Town.”

    Quinn/Gillespie cashed out for a cool $40 million. Everybody wants to be invited to Party at “The Quinns.”

    Is it any wonder that the Bush Mafia feels that Rubio got something done and it will be good for the “corporate welfare” business.
    These people have no conscience. It is exactly because of former corrupt RNC chairs Ed Gillespie and Haley Barbour that the TEA party sprung up.

    Mark Levin is from the old school not Bush Mafia Wall Street/K Street cut throat. He wants to believe in the loyalty that Reagan had in the past. It doesn’t exist any longer. We have to fight this war on the new battlefield.

    Rubio is the newest inductee into the Bush Mafia corporate welfare club. Sorry, but Rubio can make novenas on he knees. To Floridians he will never be forgiven. As far as we are concerned anything conservative he does he OWES conservatives. He is just paying his dues. And he has plenty more to pay. But he will always pay homage to the Good Ole Boyz corruptocrat club first. All conservatives will ever get are the crumbs. You want to reward him for cheating knock yourself out. But don’t expect the rest of us to be played for fools.

    Rubio’s votes for Corrupt Jack Lew, Hanoi John and that Academy Award winning performance of the filibuster with Cruz and Paul and then voting to confirm Chuck Hagel are unconscionable. There is nothing conservative about them.
    Rubio could care less about defunding Obamacare. It’s corporate welfare too. It’s all smoke and mirrors and nobody is buying. Sure we will use him but, yes we will actively campaign against him even for the Democrat.
    Levin told us we had to vote for Etch-A-Sketch too. Many of us paid him no heed. He is entitled to his opinion but he only has one vote, not mine too.
    Maybe you have to be a Floridian to know the seething rage b ut it’s there. No amount of Bush Mafia BS can ever repair Rubio’s conservative cred in Florida. He will never win the state, ever!

    • BS61

      @JayRae I’m with you!  I lived in FL for about 10 years!

  • TJinNJ

    In the roll of flipper, the flip flopping traitor…

  • kong1967

    That’s not really true.  There are things we fund every day that R’s go ahead and vote to pass in appropriations bills, but it doesn’t mean they like them.  I want Obamacare defeated as much as anyone else, but I am really twisted on whether or not we should defund it.  It has nothing to do with being complacent and just accepting it.  It’s about strategy and whether or not defunding it will work.
    Defunding it will not work….period, at least not directly.  The only chance we have is to use the media focus that will come to the government shutdown to get out the facts about what Obamacare is doing and hopefully garner that to pick up more seats in the midterms.  Then we can get the Presidency and finally repeal the awful bill.  That’s the only way defunding it can possibly be worth doing, because it sure won’t kill or stop the law in the long term.
    Question is, will the media focus be on the details and consequences of Obamacare, or will it be on the evil Republicans for shutting down public services that the public likes….and Obama will target those for shutdown.  Punish the public first so he can use it against the Republicans.
    We don’t have to defund Obamacare, force a government shutdown, and take a huge risk that it will blow up in our faces.  If it backfires we blow any chance we get of picking up enough seats to finally repeal the bill.  If we don’t defund it, though, we run the risk of not bringing enough media focus to it in order to defeat the Dems in the midterms, also killing our chances to repeal the bill.
    I am leaning towards government shutdown, but it’s a huge risk.

    • Tamikosmom

      kong1967
      Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth!
      Ronald Reagan

      • kong1967

        Tamikosmom  Of course they don’t.  We have agencies and programs that have run out their purpose and they still exist.  If we’re going to defeat Obamacare, we have to be careful we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot, or the head, so to speak (with strategy).  Otherwise Obamacare will be permanent.

        • Conservator1

          kong1967 Tamikosmom I live in NY and there is still a program from the time when Carter was president and we had long gas lines. I forgot the name, but it was meant to help increase various blends of fuel. That was 30 years ago and the program still exists although it does nothing anymore.

    • K-Bob

      kong1967  
      I think it ought to be shutdown for three months.

      • kong1967

        K-Bob I was totally against it for a bit, but this would bring the media focus to the shutdown….and why there’s a shutdown.  Will it backfire, though?  That’s my only worry.

        • K-Bob

          kong1967 K-Bob At this point, I don’t care if it backfires.
          We have to get past worrying about how we’re perceived, and start kicking a$$ every way possible.

        • kong1967

          K-Bob  I agree, but I’m not worried about how we are perceived per say.  I’m worried about losing seats and the upcoming Presidential election which would kill our chances of repeal.  The shutdown cannot repeal the bill.  
          On the other hand, if we pass this up there’s no guarantee we will ever get enough votes to repeal it anyway.  Maybe we do need to do this to raise public awareness….and knowledge.

    • Conservator1

      kong1967 I understand the frustration with Rubio on immigration – there should never be a pathway to citizenship with the right to vote for anyone who immigrated to the U.S. illegally.
      But the question you raised is important. Do conservatives want another lefty Senator from Florida?
      Case in point, Bill Nelson, (D-Fla.) has a liberal rating according to the National Journal that’s 75.3% and ranks 28. This is higher than Bernie Sanders, the socialist Senator from Vermont who ranked 32 with a 70.5% liberal rating.
      http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-vote-ratings/how-liberal-is-your-senator-2012-vote-ratings-20130221
      I would vote for a Rubio over Nelson always.

      • Tamikosmom

        Conservator1 kong1967 
        The point is.  If Marc Rubio is going to vote with Democratics on the major issues … what is the difference?  If RINOS are going to talk the Conservative talk to get elected but … side with the Democrats when voting on the major issues that are furthering  the agenda of the Islamic appeasing/Maxrist in the White House … the implication is that an illusion of an oppostion is just that … an illusion.
        Marco Rubio and all RINOS have to be recalled and replaced with vetted Conservative who will be held accountable to the electorate for their votes or … maybe a new party need to be established.

        • kong1967

          Maybe, but people here were saying the same thing about West at one point.

        • Conservator1

          Tamikosmom As I stated previously, I understand the frustration conservatives have on his decision to join the ‘Gang of Eight’ to form a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. I’m angry about it too.
          But compare Nelson’s high liberal rating versus Rubio:
          Bill Nelson, (D-Fla.) has a liberal rating according to the National Journal that’s 75.3% and ranks 28.
          Marco Rubio’s (R-Fla.) liberal rating is 17.2% and ranks 83.
          http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-vote-ratings/how-liberal-is-your-senator-2012-vote-ratings-20130221
          I don’t live in Florida but if I did, I would still vote for Rubio if someone like Nelson was his opponent. That’s pretty much ‘The Buckley Rule’ which recommends voting for the most conservative candidate.
          If I don’t get a candidate that I want to vote for like Romney, then it’s a decision who would be worst. In 2012, Obama was and thus I voted for Mitt.

      • kong1967

        Conservator1  Every politician is going to break with us somewhere along the line, and there’s no way to prevent that.  We can’t always win, even with our own elected officials.  I’m not going to drop my support for every Republican that disagrees with me on a few things.  Otherwise, we are left with nothing….well, except liberal rule.  Rubio wounded my support by a lot, though.

        • Tamikosmom

          kong1967 Conservator1

          Kong … the Comprehensive Immigration Bill has the ability on so many levels in a relatively short period of time to destroy American Way.
          Think about it.  If it had not been for the 14 Republicans (RINOS) voting along with the Democrats … the Comprehensive Immigration Bill would not have passed with the 60 required votes.
          Senate roll vote for immigration bill
          Published June 27, 2013http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/senate-roll-vote-for-immigration-bill/

        • kong1967

          Tamikosmom  It’s not that I don’t agree, but we seem to be eating our own.  Rubio isn’t a McCain or a Boehner.  He’s a Tea Party candidate that has held the line aside from immigration reform.  He’s holding strong on Obamacare and wants to defund it unlike most of the rest of the party.
          Immigration reform would take too long to discuss, at least as far as why I am not kicking Rubio off my support list.  The one thing I will say is that we will never get anything passed that resembles our hardline approach….no matter how much we want it.

        • Conservator1

          kong1967 We are in total agreement. I can’t recall any politician who supported all of my political opinions.
          Ronald Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, but I disagreed with him on some issues too like amnesty for illegal immigrants.

        • Conservator1

          kong1967 Tamikosmom If Rubio was like McCain, he would never get my support. McCain and Graham are an embarrassment to conservatives and I despised their actions in Egypt this week.

        • kong1967

          Conservator1  One way or another, McCain’s time in office is limited.  Hopefully he doesn’t live to be 150, lol.

        • mytorpor

          kong1967 Conservator1 Unless McCain changes his mind (which wouldn’t surprise me), he ran as this being his last term in office.  Hope he decides he has had enough and doesn’t run.

        • mytorpor

          kong1967 Tamikosmom Immigration is far too large an issue to give Rubio as pass on.  He not only worked with the Democrats to push this crap bill through the Senate, he broke the very promise he was elected on…border security BEFORE even considering anything else.  And the Senate bill will not even solve our illegal alien problem as it does not even address the issue of VISA overstays and students not showing up at colleges where they claim to be coming to study!  There are a whole lot of things I could forgive Rubio on…this immigration bill is not one of them.  He is pushing it for one reason only….he has been convinced that Hispanics will put him in the Oval Office.  He is wrong and this will mean the end of the Republican party if it passes in any form.

        • kong1967

          mytorpor  The bill does require that the fence be built first, and amnesty isn’t guaranteed or easy.  They have to go to the back of the line, and quite frankly I don’t think most of them are interested.  
          That said, the bill does have major flaws….with the fence and everything else.  
          But consider this…..we must have that fence built.  Bush at least started building it but he Dems shut it down.  We have to go through the Dems to get the darn thing built, and they won’t do it without concessions.  Even then, they’re a bunch of lying, backstabbing crooks and it probably still won’t get built.  The problem with most things in government is the Democrats.  If we take the stance I want to take, nothing will be done because Dems won’t pass anything.  
          We can try to take away the carrots that draw illegals over here, but how far do you think that will go?  Nowhere.  Dems won’t let it.  So, unless we get a super majority and the Presidency, we are powerless to do any of those things.  We have no choice but to give a lot of what Democrats want if we are to get anything we want….including the fence.

      • Jayrae

        Conservator1 kong1967 We just reelected Nelson because we wanted no part of RINO Connie Mack. If Rubio ran as a RINO he would have gotten his azz kicked.
        You just don’t want to get it. We Floridians only want a conservative. If we wanted Rubio’s votes we would have settled for Charlie Crist. He’s gone. Everyone who posted on this thread from Florida is over his corrupt butt.

        • Conservator1

          Jayrae Well I can’t help Floridians, but if what you state is true, why did Floridians vote to elect Nelson, Rubio, Crist or Rick Scott who ordered a special prosecutor in the political show trial of Zimmerman?
          Florida IMO, is rapidly becoming a purple state and I doubt the kind of conservative you want will win in any statewide election. I hope I’m wrong, but recent elections don’t seem to be going our way.

  • Tamikosmom

    It appears that in respective interviews Marc Levin and Rush Limbaugh have been one in not holding Marc Rubio accountable since flip-flopping earlier this year on the illegal immigration issue.  Why?  Considering Levin and Limbaugh’s known positions regarding amnesty … could it be that there were preconditions placed on interviews?  What am I not getting?

    RUSH LIMBAUGH FULL INTERVIEW: Rush Limbaugh interviews Marco Rubio on bipartisan immigration reform
    January 29th, 2013
    http://therightscoop.com/full-interview-rush-limbaugh-interviews-marco-rubio-on-bipartisan-immigration-reform/

    On Naivety and Marco Rubio
    April 30, 2013
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/04/30/on_naivety_and_marco_rubio

  • Bill589

    To vote, or not to vote, for the ‘lesser evil’. . . . 
    Short term – The lesser evil is less evil, so he/she does less bad, but nothing gets better.
    Long term – We still lose all our liberty, albeit a little more slowly, and nothing gets better.
    Our words are not going to reform the GOP if our actions are to keep supporting them over the Dems.
    Why would they change? They have learned they can’t believe us when we talk tough.
    We’ll just do what we always do: Talk tough, and then baa – baa – bow to the McCain, Romney, Rubio they allow us – the ‘lesser evil’ argument.    And nothing gets better.
    Voting for the GOPe lesser evil makes no sense, especially if we look at it from our grandchildren’s point of view. Talk tough on principle, and then stand tough on principle.   And then if we still lose, we’ll at least be able to tell our grandchildren we did that much.

  • Mail Carrier

    I voted for Marco Rubio in 2010 but I will never vote for him again. He absolutely lied to us in Florida while he was running for Senate and he has lied to the country about amnesty. He’s dead to me. 
    Honestly, I have lost some respect for Mark Levin because he has never held Rubio accountable for his lies like he has other politicians. Why?

  • BS61

    @Zolman770 so how much did Rubo pay you for your one nights work?