By The Right Scoop


Mark Levin put Paul Ryan through his paces, as Ryan himself said at the end of the interview. Certainly Levin didn’t pull any punches as they discussed the new budget agreement, even calling it “Mickey Mouse.”

You can listen to the full interview below:

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  • mantistoboggan47

    Levin for president.

    • Тарас Шевченко

      no no no, people would not understand common sense in if reduced their taxes to 0.

    • Jefrey With One F

      Please let Levin run!

      • mojorisin69

        23 Billion dollars cut over the next ten years. Or 46 Billion over the next 20 years !!!!!! Low info voters applaud.

        That sure sounds better than 2.3 Billion per year.

        Good thing all of us aren’t stupid.

        • CalCoolidge

          Over the last 5 years, the deficit spending has been $4 Bil per DAY. So, thank goodness, well get six days of that back the next ten years thanks to the hard bargain driven by the Republicans.

  • libh8er

    Next on Ryan’s agenda? Legalizing millions of law breakers.

    • Disgruntled2012

      Yup. What a disgrace. He’s effin dead to me…

      • bworei

        And to think I knocked on almost 800 doors for this guy and Romney last year. What a disgrace he has become….

    • tomc100

      With Republicans like that who needs Democrats.

  • Jefrey With One F

    Please let Levin be the Republican choice for presidential candidate.

    • trytothink

      He’s really too good for the American electorate. Like pearls before swine, he would not be appreciated.

      • pdxracefan

        He’s not thinking of running.

        • trytothink

          Well, yeah, and that too.

    • War_Machine2

      We’re not that lucky. We instead end up with candidates like RINO McCain or Mr. Romneycare. Obama has trashed this nation and we are in dire need of strong CONSERVATIVE candidate!

  • Martin Wheeler

    paul ryan and the rest of the republicans need to realize that you cant comprimise with any of these obamacrats because they dont think they could possibly be wrong about anything . if you give them an inch they want the whole country !!!!

  • sailordude

    What if it means Harry Reid is out of power soon?

    • banderlogtorpedo

      That is a serious consideration,give the Dems nothing to use to take the focus off of Obamacare’s emerging catastrophic reality, take control of the Senate, strengthen the majority in the House and wage Congressional war on a neutered and despised Obama. If that is what the Repubs are up to then fine with me. The electorate will always shy away from a Conservative Revolution like Newt brayed about the day after they took the house in 94.

  • grumpy_old_soldier

    I second that…LEVIN FOR PRESIDENT!

    • JoetheFilmmaker

      I bet you’d be willing to suspend the Constitution, only if your messiah could be President. This guys has you all for fools.

      • grumpy_old_soldier

        I am not a Constitutional scholar, but I think that any native born American citizen can be President, provided that person meets all the criteria. So, I am not sure what suspending the Constitution has to do with it.

        Furthermore, if you are speaking of Mr. Levin as “our messiah”, I am not sure how you get there. I have read his books, I listen to his commentary, and I have found that he and I share many of the same values, principles, and beliefs. I like that he is a fighter, that he gets angry and often expresses the same disillusionment and frustrations that many of his audience and readership are feeling.

        If anything, your comments indicate that citizens, such as yourself, are the ones who have allowed themselves to be fooled by a man and his administration who clearly show themselves willing and able to abrogate their oaths and responsibilities to the Constitution, the Nation and its citizens, and the rule of law.

        • jb

          JoeyFilm thinks Hallucinations of a Composite is true.

  • FreeManWalking

    The main point I took from the conversation is, There are too many republicans who are not willing to stand up and fight for a conservative position.

    When Gingrich was Speaker he brought willy to the table, and it wasn’t easy, but he didn’t give up the first time, or the second time willy refused to budge. In the end that house brought him around to sign significant cost cuts.

    The reason 0b0 has gotten so much of what he went after is weak people in positions of leadership in the house and senate.

  • Martin Wheeler

    levin cant win . its time to put a republican on the ballot that actually has a chance

    • derpdogss

      Levin is smarter than anyone currently in office in America. If he wanted to run he would kick @$$.

    • StopIndoctrination

      like McCain and Romney?

  • Bob Haze

    Ryan slipped the word NEW in the discussion about the Fed Pension contributions – as in NEW employees ONLY – not EXISTING employees.
    That is TERRIBLE if it is so. It means LOW dollars and long delays in spending reductions!

  • Bob Haze

    Mark Levin needs to get OTHER radio hosts on board with REAL truth and Conservatism. We need a TEAM!

  • Marius Quentical

    We need to put Levin on a cholesterol-free diet and put him in the Oval Office. We need 8 good years out of President Levin to put this mess of a country back on track. Obama can hang around to shine Levin’s shoes.

  • Leon Davis

    This is precisely why this past election was my last rodeo. “F” ‘em all: sideways; backwards; and upside down. You think somebody’s on your side and they throw you under the bus. A lot of those libs might be in league with the Devil but they stick to their guns. Pelosi or Reid don’t compromise on anything. It’s the RINO’s who bend forward and grab their ankles with alacrity. I’m done with them all.

    • c4pfan

      100% agree!

  • Martin Wheeler

    we need real conservatives in office not just politicians

  • c4pfan

    After how Obama, it’s administration and the whole filibuster issue, the GOP still is afraid? No surprise to me and they only need a few RINOs to vote for it. I wonder what money Rubio wants in order to cave.

  • DEF

    Ok so where does the “Public Servant “… get it’s money? From the Non Government workers? Public Workers are paid with “Public” money!!! So will they require an increase in pay of public money so they will have enough money …Which becomes private money to them…So now since they won’t have enough “Private” money….They will have to have a pay raise of “Public money” because now they have to pay more of their “Private” money for Obama care!!! Senile Theology… That saves a lot of money!!

    • 729

      The problem is we have elected Public Serpents.

      • DEF

        True!! Snake oil Chefs!!

    • http://www.booksbyoliver.com/ PennState93

      Bureaucrats have a real problem with the word “servant” in their real title of “public servant”.

  • Kevin Williams

    Ryan the Sellout RINO KKKarl Rove asskissing traitor
    I’m done with the GOP
    He’ll be pissing down our backs later and telling us it global warming
    Amnesty the lie is next on the GOP traitors list.
    #Defund the GOP
    Vote all RINOS out 2014/2016

  • eyesjamesq

    I didn’t get an harumph out of that guy.

    • garylee123

      Mongo only pawn in game of life.

  • c4pfan

    Same old BS: We need to (fill in the blank) so the Dems can’t use it against us in the election! When we win, THEN we will do as promised.
    They win the election and what do they say? : Wait until we have the White House and a more seats in the House & Senate!
    Get the WH, Senate and House: We promised what? Well, things change and Obamacare and those things are the law anyway. Oh, and did you hear that we now think QE infinity is great now?

  • ron

    Mark needs to push for someone to primary and defeat “I Love Open Borders” Ryan…..

  • EllisWyatt

    Ryan had his pants pulled down on the energy stuff. He gave away the store and screwed domestic production while ignoring the tens of billions Obama and Murray are throwing at green energy that doesn’t work. Very disappointing.

  • JoetheFilmmaker

    Yeah, okay Levin. Why don’t you go plan your next Paul Ryan fundraiser.

    • Thomas Magnum

      Don’t be a tool.

      • $20822404

        He cant help it. If he is a Filmmaker he then is a liberal and has no morals.

      • dubbs

        toll or fool?

  • rtwngr

    There is no Republican Party anymore. Just Demopublicrats. We need a second party that will actually shrink the government, wipe out the corrupt ruling class, restore our military, tap our energy sources and put America back to work. Nobody is even talking about these things in Washington. They’re just dividing up our money and mortgaging our children’s futures.

    • BRwoman

      No — we need to take OUR party back! It belongs to us, conservatives, and we need to fight, get bloody if we have to, and take our party back! I am sick of these spineless RINOs. If we can’t beat these ninnies, we can’t beat anybody!

      • Jonathan777

        Nope. Do not send money to the GOP party. Do not help them. It will only go to establishment liberal types who have sold the country down the drain for their own power and greed. I will never support them anymore. Libertarian or Tea Party or join the entitlement parasites and get my tiny bit back before the country defaults. Those are the only options left. The GOP is ded to me. Ryan, Rubio, Boehner, McConnell, McLame, Gramnesty, ETAL can kiss my —.

  • $20822404

    The current Republicans are nothing more than a dog that has been beaten every day of it life and WILL NOT fight back. Time to removed this bad dog from the fight and put some new republicans in that will fight for the people.

  • Judges718

    Republicans nearly always negotiate a deal where their/our sacrifice takes effect immediately in return for Democrat promises of some future sacrifice, which the Democrats NEVER honor.

    When will Republicans learn?

    • chilko

      the repubs seem to be the catcher, and not the pitcher.

      • MoFreeMoney

        More ups if people understood the reference.

        Pass the lube please.

      • ZiggyStardust

        Bathouse Barry a catcher.

    • c4pfan

      They don’t give a rip. That’s why.

  • stevo

    I’d love to listen to levin but it’s 95% adds for things I don’t need

  • Mickey

    Politics on the national level is dominated by big money. Corporate money, and money representing the Federal bureaucracy. Nobody gets a sniff, Democrat or Republican, without taking the dirty money and everything that money BUYS.

    The only differences between Republicans and Democrats are on trivial, fluffy issues that don’t affect our daily lives. It’s all just a sideshow. On substantive issues they vote in lock step.

    • redneckkk

      well said.

    • c4pfan

      That’s what I think every day. Why can’t they deal with one issue without going into 15 others and go nowhere?

  • DEF

    Government workers are consumers of prosperity/Privately generated money!!!

  • Robert Register

    Levin is unelectable. Paul Ryan is between a rock and a very hard place. Defense dept is very very wasteful just like every other part of govt. the problem is ppl are fooled by where they always start the cuts. Soldiers pay, old people, etc. it makes sense though the country is polarized and so many are uninformed and soooooo many love the freebies EIC is the absolute worst freebie because people actually believe they aren’t getting welfare.

    • c4pfan

      If Paul Ryan and you think it’s hard now, what the heck do you think it will be 10 years from now?

      • Robert Register

        I think it’s too late. I believe the election process is laughable, the fraud is undeniable and undefeatable. How can a candidate win by saying we will take away your food stamps welfare and balance the budget? Atleast 30% will never vote for that,then there’s the percentage that will vote strictly by party and te 10-15% that is fraud.

        • c4pfan

          Actually, I do too.

  • c4pfan

    I heard the mega boring American Enterprise Institute guy taking Hugh Hewitt’s place (I never knew someone could be more boring than Hewitt, but he is) and he had this idiot GOP Congress guy yammering about ‘having to work’ to get benefits. So, this doofus is so out of it not to get that those getting on food stamps ALREADY HAVE A JOB! Ugh!
    See what is going on in DC?

  • Erik11235813

    we still have Cruz!

    • c4pfan

      He’s not enough.

    • Kelly T. Cochran

      You can have him.

      • Erik11235813

        he’s too much man for you.

      • C. Merose

        Nice picture, if that is you…i’d rather have Cruz. I’m sure there is a short pier somewhere that is looking for someone to take a long walk off it.

        • giveususfree

          They wants Cruz too, they’re just too ignorant to understand why.

  • Robert Gaugh

    Ok, really??? The WashPost article linked on Drudge never mentions more than a couple billion $$$ amongst a few of the thousands of bloated and wasteful programs that Obama and his gang of leftists are using to buy votes.

    These cuts do nothing to cut out of control U.S. debt, and amount to little more than the typical American cutting a bottle of diet coke from the family grocery budget.

    It’s clear that Speaker Boner and Rep. Ryan are almost as bad as Obama himself – like bad parents they’re both enablers that don’t have the guts to take a stand against thuggish behavior.

    • Dapandico

      And the scamulus money continues with the latest “deal”.

  • PVG

    Levin needed to at least elude to Ryan’s amnesty push. Ryan probably had some “conditions” in place before he’d come on.

  • SevenofNine

    So nice to see the Repubs and Dems set aside their petty differences to craft a budget on the backs of military retirees! I mean what the hell have they done for this country? Sure hope Ryan and Murray remembered to include a congressional pay raise and COLA allowance in this “budget” for all those hard working senators and representatives!!! //sarcasm off//

    Vote out all these scumbags in 14′ and 16’!!!

  • chrisden

    The GOP is begging for scraps. 23 billion is a pittance.

  • kingh

    SHUT IT DOWN! I DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR CROOKS ANYMORE! I will go through the hard times not my KIDS YOU Pricks!

  • $20822404

    Hey I know nobody give a “S” but I just make 10,000 Ups with 2386 comments. That’s more than 4 Up for every comment. I know it is no big deal and I’m sure I will get 1000 of people saying they did better but for me it is a personal +. So don’t “S” on my parade.

  • Disgruntled2012

    How much do you suppose amnesty will cost the taxpayers, congressman?

    No amnesty, now or ever!!!

    • c4pfan

      That the next ‘fill in the blank’ the GOP will vote for so the Dems can’t use it against them. Watch.

      • Disgruntled2012

        If they do, it will literally tear the GOP to shreds. How they can’t seem to understand that is beyond me.

        • Frank Castle

          I have already made my Congressman aware of that. He seems to get it but he is pretty good on most issues I care about.

  • Agent__86

    Stop whining and simply get rid of your state’s RINOs. We finally have somebody with a chance to beat Cornyn. Now it’s time for Texans to pump money into the effort. And we will. What are your states doing?

    • c4pfan

      Paul Ryan, Cantor and Boehner are not going to lose their seats and how much you want to bet the guy you vote in over Cornyn will still vote for McConnell as leader?

      • EightBall343

        You are assuming McConnell will be back.

        • Frank Castle

          Well, I hope not but hopefully Bevin gets a lot of support. McConnell needs to be retired.

    • Lowen_Lowen

      I love it. Go !
      … and then we have to get rid of the disappointing ones, which Ryan is. Sad but we will overcome. You guys are a great step forward. Kick Butt!

      • Kelly T. Cochran

        HAAAA!! You people were ape shit about Pauley last year, now that he’s lost and doesn’t cow tow to your idiot extremism, he has to go? Hypocrites.

        • Frank Castle

          “You people” was not me. I didn’t vote for those guys or Obozo. Stop with the broad brush generalizations!

        • C. Merose

          I think you overstate your case tough guy. I don’t remember ANY real conservatives going “ape ****” over either candidate. This last election was a Rino vs a Marxist. So, who do we vote for? Another low-info crap-talker who has no idea what he is talking about.

        • T funk

          I think hypocrites are people that thought Bush went to far with his wire tapping law but say nothing about this administrations illegal surveilance or dozens of other examples that come to mind.

    • EightBall343

      Going to rid ourselves of Sen. Kay Hagen (D) NC.

  • MindBender4Liberty

    Levin is a Schizoid neo con, so he is mostly BS anyway. Vote libertarian.

    • Frank Castle

      I’m not totally in favor of everything Levin states but in this case, he is right. This is a Mickey Mouse deal.

    • dbt3481

      No punches here, your a moron.

    • Solipsis

      “Libertarian,” the new buzzword. Suddenly everyone wants to be a hip libertarian, though 99% of them don’t know what it means. I dislike neo cons as much as you do, but I am wary of many self-proclaimed libertarians. Are the people who vote libertarian people you trust to actually grasp the concept?

      • MindBender4Liberty

        Well I’m no hip libertarain. I was instantly drawn to libertarians when I first learned about them in the nineties. It was not cool then. In fact libertarians were saying that they were the party of the future back then, and back then I argued that small govt should not be the future but the now. Frankly, If youre over 25 and think that dems or repubs are the solution than your head is up your arse. wake up or end up in a cage.

      • Ryan H.

        Do YOU actually grasp the concept?. Go ahead, give it your best shot

        • Solipsis

          Oh, Ryan, I must have struck a nerve. I’m guessing you’re one of the bandwagon-hoppers I was referring to. Well, I understand libertarian theories very well. I had to do many a paper on libertarianism while working on my PhD in public policy. We could discuss strict, Lockean, Nizickean, Sufficientarian, right, left, etc. By insinuating in your response that I, in fact, don’t know what I’m talking about implies that you believe you do.

          Rather than taking a shot in the dark and explaining a fraction of your favorite political theory of the day to you so you can tell all your friends, why don’t you explain it to me? That onus is on you, since you’re so a staunch forum defender. Go ahead, ‘google’ away and save some face!

          • Ryan H.

            The best way to prove you don’t actually know what you’re talking about is to list all credentials that make you qualified.

            You want me to go over the moral philosophy of the non-aggression principle? Hard money policy? Govt coercion? Freedom to pursue anything you’d like as long as you don’t violate anyone’s property rights? The brilliance of Rothbard and Von Mises? Applying the free-market to every aspect of the economy? Non-interventionist policy?

            Your post implied that beneath the surface libertarianism is invalid, that supporters of it are too uneducated/lazy to understand the concept. So I’m going to leave it up to the accuser to explain what libertarians are missing.

            By the way, libertarianism has nothing to do with gay marriage so please leave that out of your argument.

    • pdxracefan

      Schizoid neo con? Do you even know what that means? If you did, you’d realize how wrong how that statement is. Do your research next time before you open your mouth.

    • Ryan H.

      Don’t like Levin either. He has a problem with Tom Woods of all people-the brilliant historian/economist. Who also happens to be a Libertarian…or should I say Austrian economist so people on this site don’t get mad?

  • Frank Castle

    You notice this budget sham will last until 2015 to avoid the 2014 midterms. Your cowardly House and Senate Reps at work once again, kicking the can down the road.

  • timerunnersc

    Paul Ryan, yeah right I’m still laughing. What a party with a leadership of complete throw ins and cowards. Man those perks must be pretty darn awesome.

  • https://tk6969.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php Tk69

    none of this is needed, nor is it afforded. What needs to happen is to privatize the public sector, including the Roads, courts, and the military. What is conservative about having a government monopoly.

    • Frank Castle

      TK69, National Defense, and the Judiciary are provided for in the U.S. Constitution. Roads, I can support but you are talking about “A Bridge Too Far”.

      • Ryan H.

        Frank-Based on your replies I can tell you’re a man looking for answers. I think TK69 is right, and you’d feel the same too if you read a little Murray Rothbard or Walter Block

        • Frank Castle

          I stand by my posts. I’m a Conservative Constitutionalist with a Libertarian bent. I still think we can go back to being a Constitutional Republic not a Corporate Socialist Oligarchy as we are at present.

          • Ryan H.

            I know…you think this way for now. I once did too. Just look up/read austrian economics. I’m convinced you’ll change your mind

            • Frank Castle

              Listen, that is fine. Ron Paul and his followers (I like a lot of what he says) didn’t say to get rid of the U.S. Constitution but follow it. The FED wasn’t provided for in this great document and we had several presidents fight this centralized money control off (Andy Jackson deep sixing the Bank of The USA being one of them. Unfortunately, Woodrow Wilson came along and started us on an almost imperceptible downhill slide during his administration.

              • https://tk6969.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php Tk69

                The constitution does not protect liberties as so many people naively think. It was a coup of the men of property. Read the anti federalist arguments and study what actually happened and you will see. There are a great many things that people think but do not know. Remember, the constitution originally applied only to it;s self and not the states. It was a check on federal and not state power. But, it was hoped that in time it would consolidate power as madison admitted later.

            • Frank Castle

              No, I’m not just a Conservative. Many Conservatives go quiet when you tell them the GOP is not following the Constitution at least in past years. For example, if U.S. Troops go into combat AT ALL, a declaration of War needs to come from the Congress, not an authorization for a Police Action, Kinectic Action, etc.

      • https://tk6969.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php Tk69

        Actually, there is no provision in the constitution for a standing army. This was done for a reason. Nor does this mean that you can’t have private courts, Juries, police, and attorneys all of which do exist, but are made too expensive for most people to acquire.

        • Frank Castle

          I said National Defense not a standing army.

          • https://tk6969.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php Tk69

            This does not that one cannot implement private alternatives. After all congress can define such things as it wishes.

  • Kelly T. Cochran

    Says the man with the little boy voice.

    • Bob Frapples

      says the b1tch with little sense to know to STFU.

    • C. Merose

      Well, we can’t hear your manly voice because you don’t have your own radio show. I judge people by the content of their words…people who throw out comments like yours remind me of little boys. Thanks for the poignant insight, tough guy. Do us a favor and go back to Huffington Post.

    • waitaminutedoggy

      Not the deep booming Kenyan voice which encourages trust in the state.

  • Frank Castle

    Folks, buy Silver, Gold and other precious metals while they are cheap. Pay down your debt and hold on because I sense another economic bubble getting ready to burst with Congress just aiding and abetting.

    • chilko

      It’s gonna bust, 85 billion per month is being shoveled in to the Stock Exchange, via printed funny money from the US.

      • Frank Castle

        Europe is already shaky too with Greece delaying payment on their debt once more. How about all of those folks who stopped looking for work too?

        • chilko

          We are looking at Global Collapse, and well orchestrated, too.

    • republipunk

      Lead too…don’t forget the lead.

      • Frank Castle

        Of course. The MSM would probably say I’m a nutcase since I have quite a bit of that for different calibers.

        • republipunk

          Diversity is everything…all of us nut cases know that.

        • DeathMerchant

          Best to consolidate calibers to the extent possible. Makes it easier during the stress of battle.

          • Frank Castle

            Well, the missus and my son need something to fight with effectively. I buy what is proven to work and is reasonably available.

        • Ryan H.

          100% agree but the argument can be made to preserve your debt so that’s when the trillions in quantitative easing money moves from excess reserves into the supply price inflation/devaluing of the dollar will reduce your debt burden. However, everything else will cost more too so paying it down will be more difficult.

    • Ryan H.

      Exactly! Congress is the main driver of this insane monetary policy. If there was a balanced budget there wouldn’t be any treasury bills for the fed to buy.

    • God

      “The main point is that safety and risk depend upon the time period involved, as well as on the kind of asset. To take an extreme example, while a dollar invested in bonds in 1801 would be worth nearly a thousand dollars by 1998, a dollar invested in stocks that same year would be worth more than half a million dollars. All this is in real terms, taking inflation into account. Meanwhile, a dollar invested in gold in 1801 would by 1998, be worth just 78cents. The phrase, “as good as gold” can be misleading as the phrase “money in the bank”, when talking about the long run. There have been many short-run periods when bonds and gold held their value while stock prices plummeted. The relative safety of these different kinds of investments varies greatly with how long a time period you have in mind.” Thomas Sowell

      • Frank Castle

        Precious metals will always have value. Government paper, not so much!

        • God

          … As with most things, it depends on your timeline. Hopefully you did not buy gold in Sept 2011. It will take a while to recover from that.

          • Frank Castle

            No, I didn’t.

  • gsp9993

    It sure is. It’s get along to get along. 1,000,000,000,000.00 budget for the next 2 years. Stupid

  • Solipsis

    Let’s just take in all the illegals, give them Obamacare and jobs, raise the minimum wage to $20/hour, and cut the military completely down until all we have are reserve forces. That will free up some money to throw into social programs to support the newly-minted American citizens who earned their citizenship by sneaking across the border and popping out a kid…or four.

    • DeathMerchant

      They will all be working in Chinese labor camps anyway.

    • Frank Castle

      If you want to give illegals work, have them work on the border WALL for a month before they are deported. If they show back up, make it two months. If it’s a third time, a year. I think they will get the message. Put Sheriff Joe or someone like him in charge.

    • Judges718

      Be patient, the Marxists/Democrats and the GOPe/Neostatists are working feverishly to achieve just that.

  • Founders_1791

    —————
    “…a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush…”
    - timeless proverb

    “…a sequester cut in hand is worth two promises in the future…”
    - angry citizen ….throw him out in 2014!

    Paul Ryan has been an entrenched career politician for 14 years and has NEVER ONCE shrunk the size and scope of government even when he was in the majority.

    Classic submissive rino who will ‘always’ go along to get along!
    —————

    • Sentinel

      In your timeless proverb, did you just blame Bush? (wink) :-)

    • TheCarCzar

      He who smelt it delt it

  • EightBall343

    Man those are some big time cuts. Twenty five billion over a ten year period. We have a 17 + trillion deficit and they are cutting a lousy twenty five billion over ten years. Fire every one who votes for this crap.

  • republipunk

    Boy, these Republicans are shrewd. Dumb Democrats never saw it coming. We are saved!

  • Darrell Griffin

    I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

    • TheCarCzar

      May God bless Whimpy

  • jparker70

    there is a 1,000 billion in a trillion, our recognized debt is over 17 trillion, and we are haggling over 20 billion? What a crock of shit! Ryan is a punk and deserved to get eaten by Biden….

  • ALTILLA

    Paul Ryan is the most brilliant man in DC. He knows what the money is going to be worth, financial conditions 10 years from now. What a wizard. He should be emperor of the world.

    • honigs

      THIS RINO RYAN, SHOULD BE PUT IN A CAGE

      • Lovelives

        Romney thought Ryan would win his state? This guy could barely win reelection. The election of 2010 should of had consequences but the RINO’s chose to side the the DINO’s. Just one big progressive party.

    • ricardoh

      This in jest, right?

  • Robert Gaugh

    America is finished if the GOP won’t start fighting for it. Lightweight pretenders like Boner, Ryan, Rubio, McShame, Grahamnesty, McConnell, Hatch, etc, etc, etc must be kicked out of office so that real fighters like Cruz and Lee can be turned loose on the leftists, i.e. democrats.

    Currently the GOP is full of poodles….the left/democrat party is chock full of pit-bulls.

    Until this situation changes America will continue to decline.

    • Geosophus

      Actually it is sad name callers like you that are to blame. Happy 5th grade graduation.

      • Robert Gaugh

        Wow! You must own a poodle? Or maybe I insulted your pit-bull by comparing Spike to those most despicable creatures, leftist democraps. Your comment literally makes me laugh:) Ok, ok, I also apologize to any poodle owners I may have offended.

        • David Brinson

          I own two cocker spaniels and I am deeply offended that you likened the entire swath of dogs to the contents of the Capitol Building. The only dogs not between poodles and pit bulls are chihuahuas. I guess we will have to wait for amnesty until you ridicule them as well.

          Just try and be a little more humane….

          P.S. Both of my dogs could graduate from fifth grade in the current public school system. He should congratulate them too.

          • Robert Gaugh

            Fair enough sir:) Touche!

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        No, it is let’s-bend-over-and-take-it people like you and the RINOs that have let this country go to hell and deeper in debt. We vote for these people to fight for us and instead they are bending over for the opposition. Time to get rid of the RINOs because they sure as hell are not conservative.

      • Steve Angell

        Lighten up. Poodle as opposed to the Pit Bulls that we need. Poodles are lovable and bark up a storm but they are mostly all bark. Pit Bulls go right for the neck if their owner is in danger. Great guard dogs and very lovable but you must train them well.

      • Hotguyg

        The purpose of Steve’s post was to derail the discussion and divert attention to something stupid. His job is to do that to the “best” comment since that one is read by the most people. Dont fall for this trick next time.

    • TheCarCzar

      Reject RINOS

      • http://www.TakeBackOurMedia.COM/ Take Back Our Media

        If ‘one nation under ABCCBSNBC’ can reduce even Paul Boy Scout Ryan to this degree of pathological corruption, the system is all but unsalvageable. After 14 years sucking dry the DC teat, Paul Ryan has been reduced to a fraudulent post-America parasite, callously squeezing the last vestiges of life out of America’s corpse for his lobbyist wife.

        End Democrat control of ABCCBSNBC, America’s only dominant media to reach 51%, or Democrat control of ABCCBSNBC will end every trace of Constitutional America.

      • Bob Jones

        America IS finished. The GOP has been completely castrated and obliterated by Obama. Obama may be utterly incompetent in most things, but in destroying the GOP he is The Master. The present GOP leadership are a bunch of frightened little bed-wetters afraid of anything that moves. God help us.

    • Steve Angell

      What a disaster Mitt Romney was. His lie he did not raise taxes by calling them fees. That is a damn lie. A fee is a tax period.
      $5 per ticket fee is exactly the same thing as a tax of that same amount. It is exactly the same thing. Every tax could be called a fee. We could call Income tax an Income fee if we wanted to but it is the same exact thing.

      RYAN is a DAMN LIAR.

    • deep45

      While I wont defend them often. This time Ryan has it correct. The R’s have to win big in 2014 and to do so they need every Independent vote. The conservatives have to become more savvy when it comes to elections and not dig in their heels on every issue and sit home because they are mad. Dems are typically 90% wrong on most issues and 100% correct when it comes to elections. Obamacare is their red herring and we can not give them any reason to change the narrative against us on the right going into 2014. The left isn’t full of pit bulls, the left understands the game of perception and they can sell ice to the Eskimo’s. We on the right need to be smarter when playing the game of politics because we have already proven our policies work. Levin has it right but he is a c player in the game of winning elections and he and Rush could help this country immensely if they would learn to play the game

      • trytothink

        That’s all the RINOs are good for, “playing the game”. Playing the game is what got us where we are because every time a choice came up between our principles and holding our noses to win an election, we held our noses. At some point, the stink we were trying to avoid smelling infected the GOP and became indistinguishable from it. It’s time to start letting principles trump political expediency.

        Reagan showed that sticking to your principles is a winning strategy by itself when those principles are worth it. He challenged the establishment in ways unseen in the 20th century and won huge landslide elections.

    • Hotguyg

      Why the “if” ??

  • J. Jones

    Ryan makes the Republican Party proud!

    • Kick

      He makes the authoritarians proud. RINO!

      • J. Jones

        RINO? Ryan is a Real Republican. You can recognize the Real Republicans – they are the ones in charge of the Republican Party.

        • Kick

          Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself of that. Ryan is well funded by the banker controlled trans national corporations that are working overtime to destroy the sovereignty of our nation. Everything Ryan has worked on is a nation killer. The people are waking up and it won’t be long before these traitors are tarred, feathers and publicly shamed for their treason.

          • J. Jones

            Heh… So what you’re telling me is that Ryan acts like a Real Republican? ;)

            • Kick

              He is acting like a corporate sellout. The little letter in front of his name means nothing because the fight is between freedom and tyranny and both parties are packed full of traitors.

              • J. Jones

                You sound like you don’t claim the Republican party because it’s packed full of traitors. Ryan is a Real Republican with a capital “R.”

                • Kick

                  Establishment Democrats are the same as establishment republicans. Libertarians are true Americans and will get this country back on track.

                • J. Jones

                  Oh? So when should we expect this to happen?

                • Kick

                  As soon as the awakening gets bigger. We will hit a event horizon when the producers wake up to the fraud and realize the game is set up against them. All the mind power focused on their private lives will be shifted towards the tyrannical system that is being built around them. When that happens there will be no stopping the coming revolution. Being violent, spirituall or intellectual. Something has to give.

                • J. Jones

                  Oh… I thought you were talking about the Libertarians but what you describe seems more a worker’s revolt. In solidarity, I guess.

                • Kick

                  Libertarians represent freedom, through a non aggression principle. Where communities take care of themselves. Where a no victim no crime policy will be the rule of law. Not a dictator makes the law and the state will force it apron you.

                • J. Jones

                  So there won’t be a revolution, then? You expect too much political action from a group that has yet to demonstrate a real taste for it. For my money, libertarians aren’t political leaders – they fall more along the lines of modestly modulating the political discourse.

                • Kick

                  If what we have had over the last 50 years is leadership I don’t want any part of it. Revolution can mean many things. I do believe there will be a revolution but what kind only the future knows. As far as libertarian leadership goes reference the first 100 years of our republic.

                • J. Jones

                  So would that be the first 100 years that included kicking the indigenous peoples off their land along with two presidential assassinations, a number of wars both defensive and expeditionary, and our Civil War? Is that what libertarian leadership accomplished?

                • Kick

                  That was a different time and compared to the rest of the planet it was light years ahead when it came to freedom. Only presidents that oppose the nwo get the shaft.

                • J. Jones

                  And yet you offered those years as being years that demonstrated what libertarian leadership could offer.

                • Kick

                  Those ideas were the best for that time. I would argue that those ideals would be the best for our time too.

                • J. Jones

                  Those ideas? Which ones? Taking land from the indigenous people? Expeditionary wars? Assassinations? The multiple recessions? Look, it’s OK to look at the past with some fondness, but one should bear in mind that the past shapes the present.

                • Kick

                  What is your answer? What system do you long for? Put it out there.

                • J. Jones

                  I like the political system the framers gave us.

                • Kick

                  How is that different from what I want?

                • J. Jones

                  I’m content that the system is working. You seem less content, as evidenced by you talk of revolution and not wanting a part of the last 50 years of leadership.

                • Kick

                  You are ok with the massive debt that is being forced on future generations? You are ok with the patriot act, NDAA, and the repeal of Glass Steagall? You are ok with the us government forcing Americans to buy a product? You are ok with the executive branch starting wars without congressional approval? Droning sovereign nations by fiat? Considering the deaths of 2400 innocent people(200+ children) as collateral damage. You are ok with that?

                • J. Jones

                  I’m fine with the political system which the framers gave us. Apparently, you’re not.

                • Kick

                  You didn’t address one of my points. The framers would have revolted against what we have now. Your reply or lack there of speaks volumes.

                • J. Jones

                  I gave an appropriate reply. The system the framers gave us doesn’t always produce pleasant results, but it is a superior political system, nonetheless. It’s great that you know what framers would do – that must be a source of great pleasure for you…. at least when you’re not worried about those things which speak volumes, eh?

                • Kick

                  You are ok with executive orders that bypass congress? You are ok with the NDAA? The patriot act? Put your name on it.

                • J. Jones

                  I’m OK with the political system that produced those results. Aren’t you?

                • Kick

                  No, I am disgusted with you.

                • J. Jones

                  Why? Because I like the political system given to us by the framers even though it sometimes produces less than perfect results?
                  Or is it because I choose not to take your bait? Look, if you want to dish on banking laws, the NDAA, the Patriot Act, etc., then make a specific comment about them and I might respond.

                • Kick

                  The framers didn’t want the executive branch to have this much power nor did they want a central bank that had the ability to devalue our currency. Things started to move away from what the framers envisioned around 1912. Look, some of us are not programmed to be slaves. May your shackles lay gently upon your bones.

                • J. Jones

                  And yet the framers gave us the mechanism for it to happen. What shackles do you imagine I wear?
                  It must be great to speak for the Framers… is that a paying gig or is it something you do for free?

                • Kick

                  I am not speaking for them, their personal writings are. There is plenty of source material. Just say what you are, own it.

                • J. Jones

                  I’m an American. So what are you? And what about those shackles you say I wear? Or what is it you don’t like about the laws you’ve mentioned?

                • Kick

                  I am a freedom loving American. Spying, indefinite detention. Bailouts just to name a few.

                • J. Jones

                  I’m against those things, too – but the framers gave us the method with which to adjust or repeal those laws we don’t like.

                • Kick

                  Who did you vote for in the last presidential election?

                • J. Jones

                  Obama, and you?

                • Kick

                  Ron Paul. It is obvious that you are an authoritarian who doesn’t care for freedom. Your double speak about framers sounds exactly like something Obama would say. Good luck with your future because this whole system is coming down under a mountin of debt. There isn’t one example in the history of the world where a country did the things we are doing that didn’t end up in war and poverty. Maybe then you will wake up to your errors.

                • J. Jones

                  That’s funny. I’m a political pragmatist. Ron Paul is a Republican and was not on the November Presidential ballot in my state or yours. So, I guess then, you did not vote in the Presidential election? Is that about the size of it?
                  Thanks for your concern about my future. The simple fact, though, is that I’ve always had a good life in this country regardless of who is President (starting with Truman, BTW.) I’m sorry that you think you haven’t and, therefore, feel the need to go calling names on those people that, I guess, you blame for your lack of happiness.

                • Kick

                  I wrote in Ron Paul and my life has been fine. However I do have people I care about who have struggled horribly. Seniors do have a hard time seeing the world for what it is and tend to live in yesterday. The left/right scam is coming to an end because the younger generations are waking to fact that there isn’t a real choice. Both parties are full of corporate whore sellouts that are slaves to international bankers. Now that you have mentioned your age it makes sense that you can care less that the government is selling out future generations.

                • J. Jones

                  What a crock. I see the world just fine. I’ve worked hard for what I have and have never depended on politicians to take care of me.
                  So you wrote in Ron Paul… you’re not very practical, are you? When, I wonder, was the last time a write-in had a chance of winning the presidency?

                • Kick

                  You lost all credibility when you said that you voted for Obama a second time. He shown himself a liar and a crook and you ponied up. The first time I can understand because he said he was different and he talked the talk. The second time we all knew he took bush’s game plan and doubled down so there is no excuse. You sold out our future not me. How can you fall for the same scam over and over again. Ron Paul has been right about everything. There are 25 years of YouTube videos that prove Ron Paul has been one of the few telling the truth. I didn’t think he was going to win, it was more of a message because I didn’t see a difference between the puppets who got the nomination.

                • J. Jones

                  What a crock. As I said, I’m a political pragmatist. That means I always vote for the top candidate that’s most likely to move the country in a direction I want. Obama simply was the better candidate than Romney. End of story.
                  Talk about credibility – you blast Republicans but say you wrote in your vote for a Republican that ran as a Republican in 2012. I think you like Republicans more than you let on. Message? What message? That a fringe candidate can always expect a few votes from the fringe? Heck of a message, but didn’t we know that already? Since you voted for Paul knowing that he would not win, I think you voted for him so that you could claim you didn’t vote for anyone that actually had a chance of winning and, thus, would have “plausible deniability” if things didn’t go well.

                • Kick

                  You trying to justify your psychosis is laughable. Voting for the two JP Morgan selected puppets will not move this country into any direction except bankruptcy. Do the same thing over and expecting a different outcome is the definition of lunacy. The debt and quantitative easing will destroy us because history tells us it will. You are so caught up in the left/right scam you cannot see the truth so I will break it down for you. Bankers control the corporations that control Washington with the exceptions of a few good people. The Fortune 500 has 80% common ownership and they will not do anything that hurts the bottom line of any of those businesses. Every mainstream media outlet is part of the Fortune 500 fox, msnbc, CNN and so on. You will never get the truth about your country from those news outlets and it is obvious that you have been influenced by them from the arguments you put forward. When the financial collapse happens at it will( read your history) and every country around the world blames us you will know that I was right. You will go to you government to beg for help and all you will find is a police state that Bush/Obama created using our fear.

                • J. Jones

                  So your solution is to vote for yet another Republican that doesn’t actually have a chance of winning so he can do something about the problems you see? Right… that’ll work. All you’ve done is found a way to say you’re taking part in the system without actually having to take part in the system.

                  So why is it that I’m going to go to the government begging for help?

                • Kick

                  If more people were like me real change will happen. You are basically voting between brain cancer or colon cancer when you vote for the corporate puppet. You lose no matter how you vote. More and more people are coming around to my way of thinking and some people refuse to change. What category are you in? Ron Paul might have ran as a republican but we all know that he is a libertarian. He changed parties because the system is rigged against a third party candidate. It’s never too late to wake up and I am still holding out hope for you.

                • J. Jones

                  If more people were like you? That’s funny. If more people were like you then you’d be mainstream-center and someone in the fringe would be telling you how stupid you are for voting for a mainstream candidate.
                  Ron Paul is a Republican. Moreover, he ran as a Republican while another guy ran as a libertarian. So what you’re telling us, though, is that Ron Paul lied when he said he was a Republican? Not good.
                  In my state of Louisiana, I could not have voted for Paul in the primary because we have closed primaries. And since he didn’t make it out of the primary and become the Republican candidate then I couldn’t have voted for him in Nov., 2012.
                  You’ll never have enough people to join you in the numbers needed to win elections as you don’t really invite them to do so. It’s OK.

                • J. Jones

                  Btw – the framers expressed their “feelings” in the Constitution they created.

    • Jimmy

      Almost 5000 troll comments, Acorn paid Troll

      • J. Jones

        You wish. Hey, it’s OK, though. ;)

  • Jimmy

    That selfie of Mooshayle scowling should be Time mag photo of the year

  • honigs

    THE RINO RYAN, AND PATTY THE COMMIE, WHAT A TEAM, AMERIKA IS TRULY FINISHED, ITS TIME TO PUT THIS BEAT UP COUNTRY ON CRUZ CONTROL

    • teddiecruisetheKarpetmunch

      Do you mean; Ted Cruz or Penélope Cruz

  • republipunk

    In a $100,000/ year income household comparative, equivalent cost reduction would amount to less than a dollar a month.

  • The Smart eMERICAN

    doesn’t Levin hate everyone and everything? he’s always in a bad mood he’s not a happy person.

    • CalCoolidge

      And he is the issue? Not the $4 billion per day in deficit spending that has been going on the last 5 years.

      Oh, to live in a country that has nothing more to worry about than Mark Levin’s mood.

      • Judges718

        The trolls are too obtuse to debate the issues. They can’t logically refute anything Mark says, so they launch saliva slinging hate filled invective and ad homiem spit balls.

    • Scot McCoy

      Levin’s no phony- a realist -and doesn’t suffer fools well

    • ricardoh

      When you look at our government what is there to be happy about?

    • chilko

      To observe the destruction of one’s country would put anyone in a “bad mood”.

  • ricardoh

    This deal is beyond pathetic. This would be like making a thousand dollars a week and putting twenty a month in a savings account but borrowing another five hundred to get by. I feel sorry for my grandchildren.

  • bri

    He was the worst VP choice and even a worse congressman. Still a lot the right kissed up to him. He should be thrown out on his rino behind.

  • Misti Fied

    Its clearly past Eddie Munster’s bedtime…on this one.

  • libknocker

    There comes a time to use your freaken head Mark, We have the deems on the run and you want to piss off the country again and let the libs change the subject again. MARK USE YOUR HEAD.

    • MartinAustinTX

      Your sentiment reflects the mindset which the Dems have programmed you to have. Don’t oppose the Dems or you’ll be blamed for the conflict. Let them have what they want and we will beat them next election….Look at the empirical evidence: your approach was followed since 2010 and the GOP lost in 2012.

    • william

      Did you notice that the government was shut down today because of snow? And it shuts down every weekend. It is shut down already almost 40% of the time. What’s another 10%? It’s all good.

  • Lovelives

    nobody but DC cares about the shutdown, except that it was the best thing that happened in a very long time. Ryan and the Rino’s gave in once again. 6 years of unemployment benefits, really?

    • Misti Fied

      TOTALLY Agree

  • John Bohler

    Hey, least he had the balls to be able to get on and be interviewed by Levin.

    • CalCoolidge

      Now, if he only had enough balls to take on the Democrats.

  • Catman2

    Mark is absolutely correct. Libs are playing Ryan like a cheap fiddle. Spending first and cuts later. Problem is with libs later never comes. When the time comes they parade the children and elderly out ” see the people the GOP want to starve and hurt?” they will announce

  • YankInExile

    We are doomed

    • Misti Fied

      If this is who Republicans tout as the boy-wonder of Budget…I have to agree.

    • Secure

      We’re ok. God has to destroy Canada first – they already have gay marriage nationwide, and universal healthcare. There’s a few other countries ahead of us actually.

      • College Geek

        The laws of economics will destroy us before He does.

  • boyfromthedwarf

    Abandon thread. Drudgepacker orgy below.

    • Andrew

      God bless you may God remove the anger and hatred from your life.

  • redheart

    All any of them care about is their own hide. They just want their power and to get re-elected, to hell with the country, it’s all about them.

  • Rob9

    Martha Martha Look a Bit Coin fell out of Ryans Bumm Pizza night!!!

  • dontbendtheknee

    To put a little perspective on how bad it is, If we doubled everyone’s federal income tax, we would still be about 220 Billion out of balance.

    • IllKeepMine

      Yep, we have a spending problem.

  • The Smart eMERICAN

    You can discuss practical solutions but if you think you can do it with liberal types in charge of half or more of the decision making power you’re are deceived. You’re doomed to just go around in circles.

  • d1comment

    This one party government is killing America…

    • The Smart eMERICAN

      one party government just finish shutting the gov down & fighting over Ocare for years must be schizophrenic fighting it’s self like that

      • d1comment

        Government seems to be running full speed and I believe ObamaCare is the law of the land…

      • h2k

        Except they really didn’t fight Obamacare. They just did symbolic votes that they knew wouldn’t go anywhere and never got into the public’s face about Obamacare and why we should stop it. Only Cruz – supported by Lee and Rand Paul – and a few others like Va’s AG Ken Cuccinelli – did ANYTHING to stop Obamacare. Boehner? Cantor? These guys are simply pu55ies.

  • John Bohler

    Aaaaand the wonderful folks from Drudge are here to add intelligent commentary to this sad occasion.

    ……

    • College Geek

      Aaaaaand the mindless sheep are here to complain about facts.

      • John Bohler

        Oh no, i agree with the sentiment, this deal is lame as hell. I’m just commenting on the fact that whenever this site is linked to Drudge the comment section becomes painful to watch.

        • College Geek

          It certainly is painful to watch people talk about individual liberty, natural rights, private property rights and morals.

          • John Bohler

            Morals and private property rights are being talked about here? brb i have to recheck the comments to see this great commentary that must be going on!

            • College Geek

              Yeah it would be found under the rage at the 17 trillion dollar debt that has been put upon the backs of my generation. It would also be found in discussions about QE which will cause inflation, which in and of itself is a tax.

  • chilko

    Pray that you don’t need the volunteer fire department, that you may need.

  • dnonnema

    Ryan is like Carl Rove without the whiteboards. Move on, Paul. Maybe some more Insanity shirtless workout poses are what you need right about now.

    • Warren_28

      OK dnonnema, why don’t you step up and win an election, better yet, step up and help your side win majorities in 2014 and 2016. It’s easy to wallow in purity when you sit on the sidelines in your bubble of irrelevance. Paul Ryan is trying to put forth what he thinks is a sensible message to both win majorities and turn the tide of spending. You’re not even on the ballot.

      • College Geek

        “In matters of fashion swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock” Any questions?

      • dnonnema

        Oh Warren, now you’ve gone and hurt my feelings. I step up, as you put it, every day talking about my conservative beliefs to friends and family–that’s called grass roots. That’s where I choose to be. Paul Ryan chooses to live in the public eye, assist the Republicans in losing yet another election to an incompetent boob such as Obama, and he still has time to take glamour shots of himself in the gym. Now he has come out of his budget sessions with Patty “slightly left of Obama” Murray, and expects everyone to listen to him because he is a fluent speaker. If I’m irrelevant to people like you Warren, then I am doing something right.

  • Robert Gaugh

    The most remarkable and ironic thing about American leftists/democrats is that while they act like pit-bulls, gangsters, and thugs when it comes to battling the GOP domestically, they fold like a cheap suit when it comes to standing up for American interests internationally.

    The American left/democrat has perfected the art of class exploitation and race card politics domestically, but unlike fellow travelers Stalin, Kruschev, etc, who constantly threatened to bury the “American yellow capitalist dogs” and any foreign threat, Obama and the left always bend over and grab their ankles when America needs strong leadership on the world stage.

    And then there’s the rudderless GOP….that doesn’t know whether to #hit or go blind, domestically or internationally:(

  • Mike Smith

    …dude, we’re fucked.

    • 35Whelan

      People need to get ready for no comms. The web will go down. If you don’t have radios, you are on your own. Ham retrans.

  • The Smart eMERICAN

    Sounds Ryan is desperate and scared of the debt & spending ready to do anything just to put a little bit of brakes on.

  • The Smart eMERICAN

    When you the radio DJ playing arm chair general all your life that is one thing, when you in the ring fighting the bull it’s another thing.

    • h2k

      Then you don’t know Levin’s constitutional “chops” when it comes to fighting tyranny within our government. His firm has – and will continue – to support cases up to and including the Supreme Court. Armchair? hardly.

    • Fo813

      You pop off and know nothing about him. He’s been there done that in politics and smarter than you’ll ever be. Typical lib spitting spit balls, probably hired by Obama.

    • College Geek

      You do know he was the one who broke the story on the IRS targeting Tea Party groups?

    • badbadlibs

      Mark Levin worked in the Ronald Reagan administration and was chief of staff for AG Edwin Meese, if that’s being an arm chair general then that must make you an idiot…oh wait, you were that before you posted.

  • SonOfOriginalTed

    Palin is needed! She’s got the cajones to do the job!!!

  • Mike Smith

    All right people, stock up on guns, water, ammunition, learn how to use aquaponics to grow vegetables and farm fish… we’re about to get ourselves into a fight with China and the Federal Government all at once.

    • KrazyHarold

      Even under GW he had elements within the military trainning and planning for public unrest! Obama is the trigger man for marshal law!

      • abcnewscansuckit

        GW was probably worried about the hate Big Media was drumming up against him for really no cause. “Oh! He’th thoooo mean to thethe terrorithtth at Gitmo!!!!” Ostalin is showing himself for the POS the sane already knew him to be. There’s a lot more of us than there is HIM, so I have no worries…

    • College Geek

      I doubt we’ll get into a fight with China, if anything China will drain all the money out of the country and leave us poor. They rely on us too much, if they take us out no one will buy their crap. I do think we’ll get into a fight with the Fed. Gov’t whether it’s a Revolution or through Article V.

      But yes on everything else….I wanted to have a family someday, looks like I’m going to have to fight….grrrrrrr

    • The Smart eMERICAN

      b

  • Beretta92

    Eye on the prize, Senate in 2014, don’t stop the left while they deal daily with Obamacare. Time for budget rebalancing when you control Senate and House.

  • Kathleen3

    The more Mark Levin called out Ryan on his bogus claims the faster Ryan would talk. It was the highlight of my day to listen to the verbal knockdown.

  • sameolbs

    We have a one party system.

  • ttechsan

    Sadly the Rino Rep sell outs are being used only to be cast aside when no longer needed. So protecting their “power” is useless it only lasts til not needed or country bankrupt & no country to represent & then cast aside by their elites! So dumb not to see it & @ our countries We the Peoples expense!
    @ttechsan!

    • Mikeyoung6

      No, he is not a RINO. He is what the Republican party has become.

      • abcnewscansuckit

        I think Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gomert and a few more may disagree with you. That once-proud party has allowed the ‘Rats and Big Media to beat them down. They should really fight back.

  • The Smart eMERICAN

    GOP could be helping the Dems get a face lift just in time for the 2014 elections by making them look reasonable & productive through this puny deal.

  • OverTheCoastline

    Step one: Pay attention to who Sarah Palin endorses in the mid-term elections.
    Step two: Register to vote.
    Step three: Vote for Palin’s choices.
    Step four: Begin to take our country back from these fast-talking creeps in 2015.
    Step five: Support Palin’s run for the presidency in 2016, and vote her in.
    Step six: America comes alive again in 2017 with a new lady president, and it won’t be Hillary.

    • Mac

      Putin claims the US will go down in 2016. With this budget, he may be right. Palin might be too late.

  • TycoMA1

    Defund the Federal Government.

  • Bill Fox

    Until we get Term Limits or Balanced Budget Amendment – we will live in a country “unmoored from the Constitution” (Great One) – and on the road to serfdom – less freedom, greater tyranny – Ryan is RINO – by definition still a big Govt advocate…the difference he agreed to in spending cuts is a “rounding error” – a few billion in multi-Trillion dollar budget…23 Billion saving over 10 years – $100 Trillion unfunded liabilities…not shutting down govt is the reason for this — the illiberal left wins – we lose..yes, this is Mickey Mouse…it’s only when, not if this thing implodes…5 years, 10 years, maybe longer if we actually have Conservative majority in House and Senate…

    • cani

      Geez, I think we could save more than 23 billion just by cutting out benefits for the illegals. How about we try that!

  • william

    I heard on the radio that the government was shut down today because of the winter snow storm in DC. Did anyone notice? And it will be shut down next weekend as well as over the Christmas and New Years holidays. What’s the big deal? How about shutting it down every other day. I bet no one would notice.

    • badbadlibs

      Sure, we’d notice. We’d notice the sun shinning a little brighter, a few more nickles in our pockets….things like that!

    • WashLincJones

      Because no one notices when Obama backstabs the American people ande shuts the government down he twists the knife and selectively plunges it in deeper into vital organs to state his case.

  • Workin’ Stiff

    There is no law in obamas America. Only intimidation and force.

  • rataezo

    One of the most annoying right wingers on the radio. He probably voted Obama because its good business for right wing radio.

    • badbadlibs

      What on earth are you talking about?

    • WrenchMan

      Truth is “annoying” isn’t it?

      • badbadlibs

        It is to the lunatics on the left.

    • Shane Shelton

      The most brilliant right winger.

    • abcnewscansuckit

      Call into his show, stupid. I just love hearing him school you “dope” ‘Rat voters. GET OFF MY INTERNET, YOU BIG DOPE!

  • TycoMA1

    Oh MY GO! We are winning – Time to throw in the towel!

  • jumper297

    I can’t think of a more disappointing politician in recent memory than Paul Ryan. I remember looking forward to him entering public service as I remember him as the idealistic young man who worked for Bill Bennett… talk about a let down.

    • Barlowmaker

      I would wager that you don’t fully understand a single point or detail of what he was explaining to Levin. Not a slam, none of us really can at this point given how new this agreement is.

      I, for one, trust that Ryan got the best deal he could given the reality of the feckless Democrat Senate and an intransigent President. There is nothing … NOTHING … the drowning RATS would want more than another Government shutdown in February that they can pin on the House Pubbies.

      • Michael Barrett

        CR’s would have been a better way to go…why make a bad deal? Ryan is an egotistical, worthless rep.

      • abcnewscansuckit

        Simply saying that “I got a good enough deal so that the ‘Rats would play ball and not blame us for a government shutdown” is bull schit and makes him a effing sellout. Appeasing the ‘Rats just to not get blamed for something has given us a 2/3 ‘Rat majority which is destroying MY country. I think since the rollout of Ostalincare, people are more aware that the problem is Ostalin and the ‘Rats, not the Republicans.

    • Painless

      I can think of one – my Rep from Ohio – John Boehner. He sold out on immigration.

      • WashLincJones

        He also received bribes from Sallie Mae to keep basic consumer protections out of the student loan scam. Boner is an all-around spineless traitor to the American people.

  • FROG75

    Ryan is not only an idiot, he’s ‘A TOOL’ that the lefties just bat back and forth! He doesn’t have enough testicals to put in a thimble, just as the rest of the GoneOleParty!…gets a little ‘stiffling’ after awhile. Ryan is FOS and USELESS!

  • TeddyRoos

    Paul Ryan sold out to the east coast elite. It’s how he got his name on the ticket. He’s now gone. Unbelievable that this is now a seat that seriously needs to be primaried. What a disappointment.

    • Bigfoot Steve

      Paul Ryan was never the conservative some imagined him to be;.

  • FROG75

    …and he ADMITS the ‘smallness’ of his stupid idea. Just think, he got paid by US to spend useless time on his BS! ….It’s MICKEY SH_T…is what it is!!

  • FROG75

    Oh no, I just wish Mark wouldn’t have brought up that useless, Rove driven republican COMMUNIST by the name of BUSH-Y? …there goes my dinner!

  • rr_nyc

    Whimpy: “Can I have a hamburger today for payment tomorrow.”

    Paul Ryan: “Sure.”

  • Twoiron

    Ryan is a progressive Republican. Might just as well be a Democrat. Same goes for Cantor and Boehner and half the GOP Congressmen in office.

    Term limits along with tried and tested (and vetted) conservatives are the answer.

    If they want to be called Republicans, sobeit. But, the 2014 GOP is not your father’s GOP and it sure as he11 isn’t your grandfather’s GOP.

    I have taken the “no progressive Republicans will ever get my vote again” solemn oath, have you?

  • L!b@r+y

    Ryan has proven to be just another worthless RINO who represents no one. He will be gone, but not soon enough.

    • Lauren

      He’s really a diss appointment. Use to love him. But he’s turned into one of the sell outs from Atlas shrugged, a book he said used to inspire him

  • Ann Chovie

    Marxist. Let’s stop beating around the bush and call them what they really are.

  • The Smart eMERICAN

    both parties are probably scared of the self inflicted damage shuts downs cause and so they come up with these half baked plans that do little and satisfy no one

  • blackopz

    Ryan is a rino disguised as a conservative. I will not vote for him again why advance the Republicans when they are the lap dogs of the socialist left.

  • Dantes

    Grand Old Plunder party. Happy with big government, Obamacare, and statism as long as they get a piece of the action. Cutting the deficit less than what we borrow in a month. We know democrats are dumb, but why do RINO’s think we are?

  • ron

    Make no mistake about it the Ryan debacle does nothing significant about the debt or spending. It does nothing about entitlements. It raises taxes, particularly for airline passengers, and then pretends it’s not raising taxes. It rearranges some deck chairs on the sequester. But the worst part of the agreement is to ensure that, no matter how horrific ObamaCare gets, congressional conservatives can do nothing but dutifully pay for it. Boehner will pass this with democrat help and do the same with amnesty. Book it!

  • David Malechek

    Paul Ryan is embarrassing. Changing precedent of taking control of the purse by not getting big cuts just makes it look like the Republicans are part of the problem and taking ownership of the problem. You can’t argue with Libs if they can always say that Republicans are just as bad at spending. Republicans have to take a stand and stand for something. Not insignificant incremental change. House has the power of the purse now! Use the power!

    • $1753320

      I’m from Wisconsin and I WILL BE CALLING HIS OFFICE first thing tomorrow morning!!!!!!!!!!!

      • David Malechek

        Sounds good. Remind him poker is played with the your cards face down if you want to win. :-)

  • Founders1791

    ————————————————
    Executives deliver ‘actual cuts’ when necessary!

    (1) Governor Palin Cites Alaska Constitution in Stimulus Veto

    (2) Vice Presidential Speech Viewership …just to rub it in
    — Sarah Palin drew 40 million (vs) Paul Ryan 22 million

    (3) Governor Palin drew much larger crowds ..everywhere
    — Palin drew 30,000 (vs) Ryan 10,000 in Wisconsin (Ryans back yard)
    — Palin drew 60,000 (vs) Ryan 10,000 in Florida

    It was a big mistake to pick Ryan last year!
    ————————————————
    source(s)
    (sv) http://www.redstate.com/wmiar/2009/05/24/governor-palin-cites-alaska-constitution-in-stimulus-veto/
    (vp) http://www.eurweb.com/2012/09/paul-ryan-drew-half-the-tv-audience-sarah-palin-did/
    (30) http://www.examiner.com/article/paul-ryan-s-rally-the-villages-fl
    (60) http://blogs.knoxnews.com/silence/archives/2008/09/palin_event_dra.shtml

  • Ruger_LC9

    Levin is smarter than all of them put together. Wish he’d run for president. We need term limits now!

  • RobL_v2

    So at about the 1:30 mark he says he has members worried about the military. HE IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE MILITARY??

    That and Obama loves this tells me all I need to know.

    America your country is about to be lost. Throw out the DEMS and Obozo loving RINOs in 2014 or it just might be irrevocably lost!

  • vonstonewall

    SMALL, insignificant, short-sighted,”compromise”: in summation: Establishment Elites are ruining our republic…Listen to how many times Ryan says “I”…

  • TxSagebrush

    I trust Ryan and he knows his economics. Plus ALL Republicans must remember—-first we must win; then we fight!!

    • Dantes

      Yeah, they want to fight when the time is right. A century from now, when they are all dead.

    • Rodney Howard

      The Republicans are losing for a reason.

      • $1753320

        NO BACKBONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Bigfoot Steve

      How do you know he “knows his economics”? Because they tell you he does, lol?

      • http://geoffreybritain.wordpress.com/ Geoffrey_Britain

        The Congressional Budget Office confirms the accuracy of his economics. But that’s not the issue. His being a RINO is the issue.

    • http://geoffreybritain.wordpress.com/ Geoffrey_Britain

      He does know his economics. He also supports amnesty for 11-33 million undocumented democrats, ensuring permanent one party rule. If that doesn’t tell you that he’s unworthy of your trust then you’re in willful denial. As for Republicans fighting once they’ve won, if by now you don’t know that’s hogwash, you’re part of the problem.

  • Thomas Parris

    Ryan was more conservative. Recently he sold his soul in his quest for the Presidency and the establishment’s approval.

  • $1753320

    ryan has BECOME another GO ALONG to GET ALONG FOOL!!!!!!!!!

  • randyrocker

    I’ve never heard such hog wash in my entire life. Ryan’s selling out America, to save Barack Obama, because he’s afraid of Barack Obama, he admitted as much at the beginning of the interview. He’s excited because he’s changing entitlement law, yet the dictator in the White House will change the law anyway, to spend under the banner of another new program.
    This is just another farce being played out on the American people, where they baffle the brains of the people. Why are the Republicans so indirectly if not directly in support of protecting and preserving Barack Obama, after all it’s Barack Obama who’s crippling the nation, and here come the publicity seeking sell out Republicans to give him an economic pair of crutches.

  • Rodney Howard

    The RINO’s will fail with the Liberals next November.

  • randyrocker

    Ryan’s desire to be in the political limelight, has made him THINK BAD!

  • http://loripatriot.x10.mx/ LoriPatriot

    Please look at this link and you will understand how and why things are as they are.https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/10200364561270412?comment_id=4552407&notif_t=like Meeting today at Mt. Vernon with 100 people for a constitutional convection. Article II Section 4 has the remedy. Article 5 has next step. IT IS WAY MORE TWISTED & DANGEROUS RIGHT NOW THAN MOST FULLY COMPREHEND. Get ready.

    • http://www.myspace.com/dxrinc DXRINC

      Exactly…these jerkoffs are wasting everybodies time & money….bypass these assholes

  • Chaylon

    Paul Ryan is correct. Elections have consequences. Another point, not all Republicans in the house come from solidly conservative states and must bend a little to get elected. We as the electorate need to remember that. Sometimes I think Rush and Levin forget that not every Republican representative EVEN CAN be 100% conservative. Only those from Red states can afford to put on an unvarnished conservatism.
    If you really want to change things, get the nation back into church, get the preachers preaching the bible, get school choice laws passed.

    • David Malechek

      Too much Rove-like thinking will get us 8 years of Hillary. We need to take a stand.

    • Clearhead

      And deport obama, Pelosi and especially Reid !!!

    • proudhispanicconservative

      Your point that people have to bend a little, is ludicrous the conservative message wins everywhere if it was spoken correctly and in a complete sentence. I know is 30 years ago but let’s not forget that Reagan 2 massive landslides with a strict conservative message that did not babble,did not bend,did not moderate, conservatism plain and simple wins. Idiots like this fool have been at it for as long as Reagan left and where has it gotten us? When are we going to take a stand other then surrender?

      • Chaylon

        could, or did, Reagan, carry all the blue states? I rest my case.
        But I agree with you that a well articulated conservatism works very well. Its very helpful.
        I think we need to acknowledge that there are some people (a lot actually) who are willing to be slaves in return for security and sloth.

        • proudhispanicconservative

          The point is that he won convincingly, I rest my case.

        • deTocqueville1

          Reagan won every state but Mondale’s because as a gentleman he did not campaign there! He also crushed Carter in most ‘blue states’. Read your history!

      • deTocqueville1

        Exactly!

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      And it is thinking like this that has got us where we are at. “Well, it isn’t possible so let’s not even try.” Say what you want but the liberals didn’t take that approach and instead hammered liberalism so hard that now they have once solid red states like Colorado and Ohio voting for them. It took them decades to get this far. We just sit here and believe the doom and gloom the media tell us about conservatism being dead and do nothing. Elections are won at the local level, everyone needs to do their part. That’s what I love about the Tea Party, they get people motivated at the ground level and have won some very important elections. And when they lose they don’t give up and think it’s all over, they dust themselves off and keep trying. That is going to be the key in the end, our determination not to give up even when the chips are down. Sooner or later common sense will get through to the people and it is already starting to show.

  • Alan

    I’m an MBA, not a lawyer. So maybe I think differently. I’ll give this to Ryan. Politics is the art of the possible and I think the war is moving our direction, but we need to focus on Democrat weaknesses. They’re scared, and we need to keep the pressure on. I believe the Ryan plan will do that for a year or two. I think this is the best we can do today. Take it out a little chunk at a time.

    • Dantes

      Well I disagree with pretty much everything you said except this. Ryan is going to cut 23 billion dollars over 10 years, which will be about oh, 40 trillion dollars in spending. So the RINO”s are certainly going to be taking out a little chunk at a time…

    • $1753320

      It’s a DAM DROP in a RAIN BARREL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rick Smith

    What a load of bullshit.
    They must think we’re stupid.
    This isn’t even tinkering around the edges.

  • $1753320

    Let’s see 28 billion saved from a 2 year 7.8 TRILLION budget, GREAT WORK DUMBAZZ!!!!!!!!!!!! Where is the WHITE FLAG??????? SURRENDER MONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I’m embarrassed that I live in Wisconsin!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CEED81431F935A35750C0A9619C8B63 ɹǝzıuɐƃɹo ʎʇıunɯɯoɔ

      And $85 Billion a month being spent on QE to prop-up the market to convince the world that the US is in some recovery.

  • RobL_v2

    How many times as Ryan been played by the Obozo clowns and he still believes them?

    ‘Blah blah blah we are going save the money in the future’ When has that ever happened??

    Unbelievable.

    Also its Congress that allowed a continuation result, they could and that anytime they want. Its a bold face lie to say this spending increase (and thats what it is) puts the budget back in the hands of the Congress. Its always been in the hands of the Congress and they just let the president do what he wants with the CR.

    SHAMEFUL!

  • Rock Jurgens

    Paul Ryan – great congressional staffer, shaky representative. He was “Peter Principle’d” into power.

    • deTocqueville1

      Perfect! The Peter principal and it has now given us Murphy’s Law!

  • Rodney Howard

    Mark Levin doesn’t suffer fools well

  • neo rambo

    its time to put term limits on all these folks and while we are at it lets make them play by by the rules they set for us no insider trading and they all have to use the unaffordable health care act

  • Nordic Fella

    Spring 2014

  • Guest .

    Something has happened to Paul Ryan. He’s becoming more and more like Eric Cantor every day. His support for the Amnesty plan of Rubio and Schumer was a surprise. This budget seems an attempt to get a deal, regardless of the deal’s strength. He’s become an inside the beltway guy.

    • ddn123

      He is playing a long hand of poker. He just staked $23 billion onto his side of the table. Hopefully in 2017, he will put $23 trillion on his table. I hope someone will highlight the projected spending from 2010 to 2016 in the 2009 budget and compare it to the actual spending. You might be surprised by the amount of money the republicans were able to reduce.

      • $12545164

        $23 billion? Get that out of your personal bank account perspective, and put it in the real world perspective where it resides. It’s NOTHING! It’s $23 billion spread over 10 years. Even discounting inflation, that’s just $2.3 billion per year. Divide that by 315,000,000 US residents and you come up with a MASSIVE savings of (drum roll ~~~~) $7.30 per man, woman, and child! Looks like your “impressive” $23 billion just vaporized! If this is a poker game, we can already be absolutely assured of at least one loser at the table: Paul Ryan. But that assessment is assuming he’s really playing on behalf of the American people, and not going to come out much richer at the end of his term in office. I’m not betting on that scenario either.

  • Tomper

    the GOP will get very little until obozo is gone. 2014 may give a little relief, but that’s a big if.

  • Professor Fate

    Here we go again. The Republicans give away the farm, the Democrats give a pile of manure and a chicken to be named later. All these budget ‘deals’ ever do is continue the tax and spend cycle and grow the government. Until you can starve the beast, you’ll never kill it.

  • Tomas Cruz

    Now I remember, Ryan was touted as being brilliant and a real fiscal hawk. Now we know he’s none of those things and is a horses arse and a dove, no, a pigeon.

    • ddn123

      He will be the first budget chairman in many many years to reduce entitlement spending. You cannot hate him for that accomplishment. The problem is Obama and Reid. Take those people out of power (Reid in 2014 and Obama in 2016), by replacing them with republicans will allow us to reduce spending trillions instead of billions. Be happy Ryan accomplished this much. Now let us bury Obama and the Democrats with ObamaCare.
      Most of you maybe right in that we could have asked for more and the public is nonplused about the government shutdown and hates government spending.

      • deTocqueville1

        Did you even listen to the double talk?

  • neo rambo

    the war of northern aggression was started in SC and what they did today could be a repeat the SC house passed a bill that makes aca against the law i make be moving there soon

    • $12545164

      I had exactly the same thought when I read of the SC bill. I went straight back to that first shot in 1861, and also wondered if this is the first shot in Part 2. Sadly, that resulted in an illegal invasion, but that’s a whole ‘nother argument, for a whole ‘nother thread….

  • randyrocker

    The way the debt is rising today at $85 Billion a month and Ryan is excited about a $2.5 Billion savings a year, over 10 years, he’s talking about 10 days worth of debt savings at a debt rate of $2.7 Billion per day times 10 days. Is he or this gang of idiots in the White House and Washington DC right out of their stark raving idiotic minds, to think they can get excited about this BS and try to sell it to the country and have the American people believe this bull crap? They’re certifiably insane. 10 days, why Obama could spend it all on a golf outing at the rate he’s going.

    • Rodney Howard

      yup, Mickey Mouse. Great Point!

    • ToyZebra

      They can’t cut the budget over ten years because the congress changes and doesn’t pay any attention to past deals.

    • deTocqueville1

      Nail on the head!

  • NixTyranny

    How pitiful that a RINO agreement like this is touted as a success when it is about as “small ball” as it gets.

  • John Sheridan

    It makes me sick to listen to this GARBAGE! Thanks Mark, for reminding me of why I stopped contributing to the GOP, and why I will continue to advocate for a REAL conservative party. . .the GOP is and has been nothing more than DEM lite! Paul Ryan, is. . . .to sad to comment on!

    • Dim Reefer

      Paul Ryan is such a joke, liar and fraud like Obama. This punk had the nerve to pretend to be conservative while he was running. He dad many fooled including me. GOP and ALL Demoncraps should all be facing a firing squad for what they have done to this nation.

      • deTocqueville1

        He is an absolute fraud!

  • Rightwingger

    Liberals and conservatives agree…. Term limits

    • $12545164

      While that may help in some ways, it is still a band aid. “We the People” put these people back in, time after time, for life. “We the People” (what I call the “dumbmasses”) have become so ignorant regarding how government, under the Constitution, is supposed to work – and particularly why – that it’s become hopeless. Fine – cut them to one, maybe two, three max terms. “We the People” will still continue to elect those that promise them the most from the OPM trough (that’s “Other People’s Money,” not Office of Personnel Management).

  • $5476092

    Paul Ryan is absolutely right. Obama is incapable of doing anything that will fix the fiscal mess we are in. This is the best we can get right now. It avoids the tax increases that Obama wants and gives the congress back control of the purse. It avoids a government shutdown and it avoids additional sequester cuts on the military set to go into effect starting in 2014. This is not surrender it is actually a small victory that would not have been possible if Obamacare was not the disaster that it has turned out to be.

    • randyrocker

      “Obama wants and gives the congress back control of the purse.”

      It never was Obama’s in the first place. By touting this line of reasoning Ryan’s showing how afraid he is of Obama, rather than standing up to him, with the constitution and the law on his side. That could in some places be seen as cowardice.

      • $5476092

        Continuing resolutions and no house initiated budget give control of spending to Obama. He has been able to spend as he wants like having a checkbook with no budgetary restraint. Ryan is not afraid of Obama. He is realistic about the prospect of meaningful fiscal reform while Obama is in the White house and the Democrats control the Senate. Another government shutdown will take all focus off of Obamacare and will wreck any chance of retaking the Senate and will even put the House in jeopardy.

        • randyrocker

          Not so, you’re believing the fairytale from the left. Another government shutdown? They haven’t shut it down yet! As for ObamaCare, the people being raped by the insurance exchanges and the IRS Taxman will be enough to speak to that issue at the ballot box.
          The whole point is to stand tall and represent as Representatives of the People the people’s concerns and desires, and they want this wild spending spree to stop, they want orderly hard working government, and they want the truth for a change, not a pack of lies on top of another pack of lies.
          “The only thing to fear, is fear itself.”

        • deTocqueville1

          What on earth are you smoking?

    • deTocqueville1

      Paul Ryan is absolutely wrong as are you fellow travelling cavers!

      • $5476092

        You are obviously operating under the delusion that 25% (if that) of the population, the true believers in fiscal conservatism , can actually win enough Senate seats and the presidency in order to fix this mess. The independents (yes the squishy middle) blame Republicans for the shutdown by a very large margin. A repeat of that exercise will be the death of any chance of winning in 2014 and 2016. That is fact. Those of us who spend all of our time talking to like minded fiscal conservatives and listening to conservative thought, correct though it be, need to realize that we are truly in the minority in this country with very little power to change anything at this time but plenty of power to piss off a generation of potential converts who will be driven even further toward the left if this is not handled correctly.

  • randyrocker

    Listen to Ryan, “the Military, the Military, the Military”, what’s with that? Has he a hard on for the Military all of a sudden? Or is this the way he tries to sell himself as being patriotic? The time now is for the people, not this that or the other, including the Military, the Pentagon lost on September 10, 2001, $2.3 Trillion US Dollars, they never found it, they’ve been fed with money in the $Trillions for two wars and they still can’t manage their money, and Ryan’s running around wanting to give them more, so he can win some more votes. It’s time that the USA considers its people for a change and takes care of their concerns first and foremost.

    • Louie Goebel

      That is a great idea to help our own people but that is a utopian idea and will never happen in this country because of our bullshtine politics and policies of the Feds.

    • deTocqueville1

      Bait and switch. Use the patriotic pitch! Just another big spending cronyist.

  • A. Levy

    If our warriors were home, where they belong, the Defense dept. wouldn’t need all those Trillions. Let the middle eastern countries wipe themselves out, and station our troops where the (genuine) threat is coming from. Mexico.

    • Louie Goebel

      We have to keep the Middle East under control, or it will be a Powderkeg and blow the world up eventually.

      • randyrocker

        That song has been sung far too often for over 50 years now. Israel has left the building.

        • Louie Goebel

          Israel has not left the building, and we will continue to protect them.

      • $12545164

        MIght happen, but we can’t stop it. And don’t forget the similar “domino theory” used as justification for going into Vietnam. If South Vietnam was allowed to go communist, that entire region of the world would go down the tubes. Didn’t happen. (By the way – Kennedy had us in Vietnam long before the manufactured Gulf of Tonkin fake incident occurred – we were just itching to go full bore into Vietnam, and you see what a mistake that was.) Ask the family members of the 58,000 dead American military if they consider their fathers’, sons’, uncles’, brothers’, and husbands’ lives (and some female dead also) to have truly resulted in something worth dying for. Or how about the more than 4500 that died in Iraq (not to mention those also killed in Afghanistan), not to mention the 10’s of thousands of injured, many permanently in ways they’ll never recover from? With near daily mass-casualty bombings in Iraq, and a record opium production this year in Afghanistan, what have we accomplished?

  • Rick Ramey

    He called it “Mickey Mouse” because you can’t say “bullshit” on the radio.

  • http://Lbgtmsf.com Ted Werth

    What’s wrong with just keeping the sequester in place? The public understands the predictions of doom were just chicken little rants. We already have budget cuts in place so quit giving them away.

  • War_Machine2

    Way to go Mark! Ryan is selling his constituents down the river by going along with this weak legislation. I know for a fact that the people who voted for him did not do so for him to become a sellout.

    • $12545164

      I detest Mark Levin. With that said, I suspend that judgement for this interview. Levin is spot on in every respect. $23 billion is nothing (not counting inflation, it’s about $7.30 per man, woman and child over the next 10 years – that’s nothing). The “trust fund” that federal employees’ money goes into has been raided over and over and over to keep the government running, despite the fact that it’s money paid in BY the employees. No different than the Social Security “trust” fund. It’s smoke, wires and mirrors.

      There is a lot I could say (and do) about Mark Levin. But this is at least one time that he is spot on! Yes – “Way to go Mark!” If only other interviewers would be that bold and hold politicians’ feet to the fire, and truly dig down into the weeds to expose the muck that is really being fed to the public. This was a great interview and should be studied by everyone – on all sides.

  • ddn123

    I can support this. Do you remember the tax deal in 2010? Permanent fix to AMT. Permanent rates. The point Ryan is trying to make, is that every year, congress can jack up discretionary spending. But this cover less than 30% of government spending. entitlement programs require, by law, every increases in spending. Ryan is changing these laws to reduce spending. The other issue is the budget deficit is calculated over a 10 year window (maybe it is 7 or 8). We know the budget projects discretionary spending and entitlement spending. The change to the entitlement spending law reduces spending grow more and more every year.The only way to reduce entitlement spending is to change the law, which must survive a senate filibuster and get a president signature. Thus in this deal, we get the president and the Senate to agree to change entitlement spending without raising taxes. SO we have to spread around some street money. NO big deal.

    • deTocqueville1

      Try again sport! No logic to the capitulation.

    • $12545164

      Boy, did you ever get suckered in! The moment you heard that Patty Murray was the other half of this negotiating team, and then that the President termed it “a good start,” SHOULD have been your first two clues that this is nothing more than a continuation of the train wreck soon to occur. Like the poor folks trapped on that speeding Amtrak train last week, going 82 mph in a 30 mph zone approaching a curve, a disaster is already programmed into our own circumstances.

  • Carl Mertz

    The entire old guard both parties are going to be wearing ” I”m Retired” hat’s to there bingo games.

  • BT

    We ought to use the cuts to end taxation. We can cut the study of gonorrhea in field mice and over 6 million years it will pay for the tax revenue loss. PAH-LEES. Political double talk, while they further the theft of the middle class. Generals asking the Pentagon to stop the manufacturing of tanks as we do not have enough military base space to park all of them, yet we are assuring the military gets more funds to continue to line the pockets of weapon manufacturers. While I think we need a strong; nay the strongest military, yet the theft of tax dollars for unnecessary funds during a depression is ridiculous.

    Ryan has become the Wimpy of finance, as we will once again pay for a burger today with money tomorrow. Then he goes on to explain that Congress will regain the power of the purse, but the question is, how did they lose it to begin with? Criminals one and all.

    • Bill Aborn

      Like Jesus threw the money lenders out of the temple we must throw the lobbyists out of Washington.

    • $12545164

      Yes – people need to do the math on the numbers! There ARE no cuts to “end taxation” – at least unless a person considers $7.30 per person real cuts. Divide $23 billion by 10 years, and divide the resulting annual “savings” of $2.3 billion by 315 million men, women, and children supposedly in the United States, and it comes out to a ~massive~ $7.30 per person. $23 billion sounds like something significant when politicians present it, but the dumbmasses (the “m” is intentional – it’s not the crude statement it might appear on first reading) – the dumbmasses are gobbling up this political trash and not doing their own even basic analysis of what’s really going on.

      One does not require a degree in economics or political science to figure out the basic lies that are being fed to us. While $23 billion is a massive number to any one of us, it’s only $7.30 in reality to each one of us. And people are believing that’s even worth discussing? It is only worth ridiculing, along with those that promote it as some big deal.

  • Jeff0155

    I thought I liked Ryan and what he stood for. Now I feel like he’s tried to lie to me like so many of these other Dems and RINOs. Is he really any better than Pelosi or Reed? I’m thinking not. He’s just talking a bunch of BS here. Is there any chance of saving this country at this point? Pretty scary times.

    • $12545164

      I have not liked Ryan almost from the beginning, but truly wanted to give him a neutral “listen” tonight. It really sounds good if you don’t listen carefully, and particularly if you feel about Mark Levin as I do (I can’t stand the man!). But here’s how it worked out at least for me tonight (and I took notes and carefully studied what each said).

      Levin kept hitting the nail on the head on this one. $23 billion in “savings” over a decade simply will not happen. And even if it does (disregarding inflation what will more than wipe it out anyway), that’s only $2.3 billion each year, or only $7.30 PER PERSON. That’s nothing! Does anyone really believe Congress and presidents, over the next decade, will even care what happened in 2013? Are agreements made in 2003 still in place? Think of the promises we had of “personal privacy” with the Patriot Act that used 9/11 as its excuse to be finally enacted. What’s happened over 10 years is just another example of the deterioration our elected government gives us – over, and over and over. 2024 will be no different – we will look back at the further deterioration since 2014 and it will be staggering.

      Ryan wants to wow people with the $7.30 per person annual “savings” he got us? And people are buying this trash?!? In this case, Levin kept hammering him on this, and he was absolutely correct, and Ryan only paid quiet and quick lip service finally, in order to move on. Compare that to the $285,714 PER PERSON in unfunded liabilities facing us in the future! How are we going to pay that (or worse, how are our kids and grand kids going to pay that)?

      To a few other points:

      Increasing government employee contributions to their retirement from .8% to 2%, regardless of what one may think of that by itself, is terribly misleading. Federal employees’ actual retirement pay isn’t even close to a comfortable retirement. That plus Social Security has to be supplemented by a voluntary 401k-like program called the Thrift Savings Program (TSP), in order to provide a reasonable (NOT wealthy) retirement. IF the employee elects to participate, the first 5% of pay can be matched up to 5% by the government. That can amount to a fairly comfortable (not “rich”) retirement for someone that stays in place for 30 years of federal service – but not someone that stays for 5-10 years as some would have us believe. Federal employees are already required to pay at least 5% into a separate (TSP) retirement fund IF they want to get the 5% matching, so to say they’re only contributing 0.8% is terribly misleading. But that’s part of the subterfuge Ryan is using – pointing at things that sound politically good, but aren’t really significant issues, and certainly not relevant to the real problem – the fiscal calamity that MUST come, as Levin correctly points out. Oh – and that “trust fund” Ryan talks about? Total joke – Treasury has routinely drained it by stealing paid-in employee money to pay to extend government operations and avoid shutdown. It is not protected, Congressman Ryan! You lied yet again.

      The ONLY point Ryan made that seems positive – and I believe it’s far overshadowed by too many negatives – is the point that at least Congress is back in the game, at least on paper, of making spending decisions, rather than defaulting to the President through the use of continuing resolutions.

      Oh yes- I almost forgot. No taxes but “only” fees? By extension of his argument about charging only the flying public for their “security,” let’s also charge only those that actually drive for road building, and those that actually use ANY other service for those services. Want to go into a Social Security office to talk with someone about your retirement? Pay a fee in order to pay for the salary of the employee you’ll talk to. What’s the difference between that and the airline $5 security “fee?” But hey – then we could eliminate income taxes and be paying all this money under different structures, which would simply be political smoke, mirrors, and a shell game. Same result, different superficial appearance.

      And avoiding government shutdown with this agreement? Sounds good, because in theory it will allow focus on real, current issues, like Obamacare, what really happened on 9/11/2012, etc. But count me out of those that believe it will really happen. I’ve been around too long. Obama and our next President Billary will never be held accountable for what really happened in Benghazi (hint: it was far more than just about the tragic loss of the four lives, as horrible as that was). The public will likely never know the truth of that operation, where all it extended (way beyond Libya), and who decided what. A number of generals and admirals lost their jobs because they tried to do the right things that night.

      So as much as I truly hate to give Mark Levin any credit, I believe he nailed this one, and called it for what it is. Paul Ryan is just another politician in the worst sense of the word.

  • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

    It doesn’t matter. There may still be a few battles ahead, but the war is lost. All that can be done now is to prepare for our dreadful future.

    The inhabitants of North America think Single-Payer healthcare is just fine. There’s no getting past that, and nothing will change their minds. They have the numbers/votes.

    Cloward and Piven’s plan realized before our eyes.

    • LiveFreeOrDie1776

      “The war is lost.” So true. Maybe secession is a pipe dream, but it’s our only chance to live in a constitutional republic again. The delegates meeting at Mount Vernon need to stop talking about amending the Constitution and start considering how we can plan the peaceful breakup of this nation. Sorry folks it’s true.

      • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

        That is the truth. Thomas Sowell has said it himself. “It’s time for the country to peaceably dissemble”.

        The gap between those who love the Constitution and liberty and those who love themselves and the government can never be closed.

    • Dana Hudson

      We have an opportunity now to act! If we quit we can’t complain. I’m busy fighting in a blue state, and I’m not throwing in the towel. I work with hundreds and thousands of volunteers. I encourage everyone to contact your local offices and groups and get involved!!!!

      • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

        Was it Franklin that said once the populace realizes they can vote themselves largess from the Public treasury the gig is up?

        In 2011 we past the point of no return. More people were collecting benefits from the federal government than were paying into it.

        That’s the official notice of The End, or do we not believe Franklin?

    • deTocqueville1

      No! We can win. Keep the faith!

      • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

        No, we really can’t. Not pessimism, realism.

    • RossPoldark

      My dad would always say “la esperanza es el ultimo que muere” which means “hope is the last thing to die”. We cannot give up so easily. Our founding fathers gave their lives to create this great nation. We need to continue the fight. We need to throw out the scoundrels RINOS and the Democratic Party. CON CRUZ Y LEE SI SE PUEDE en 2016.

      • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

        I’m all for that, and I don’t think I’m being pessimistic, but it won’t matter.

        We’ve past too many thresholds. Over half the inhabitants of the US are receiving benefits from the federal government. Those people never want to do without those monies and will vote for whomever promises to keep them, or even increase them. There’s no getting past that.

        Church attendance down. Narcissism and self-love on the rise. Governments creating rights for people out of thin air. Governments destroying other rights and no one on the Left cares. Fast n Furious, Benghazi, NSA scandals – no one held accountable, most people don’t care.

        I’m all for doing what we can, but it won’t matter, as I said before, because we’ve already lost the war.

  • AOSean

    Ryan is incompetent or colluding with the Statists… either way he needs to be removed from office.

  • http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005AN3TK0 FaceliftMasks

    Ryan showed his true colors when he would not support a ban on insider trading. He’s as vile as the rest of them in DC. With the exception of POSSIBLY 1 or 2.

  • bigdaddy

    get rid of ryan the rino.

  • Pedro Gonzales

    In my experience, starting with Reagan and budget deals with the Democrats, cuts never became cuts they were “reductions in future growth: or some other Democrat slight of hand. It was always “funny money” just like Clinton’s “surpluses”. What a joke that was. I remember very well Tip O’Neal, the Democrat Speaker, saying about Reagan’s submitted budgets (ever hear of Obama submitting a budget?) “It is dead on arrival.” The spending continued to grow as the negotiated budget projected future “cuts”. That, and other Democrat Malfeasance taught me the Democrats have only their power and privilege near their wicked hearts. They are the most corrupt organization of any kind in the USA and have been before the Civil War.

    • sandiegojack

      Muy Bueno Pedro!

      And love your avatar (one of the best characters in The Treasure of Sierra Madre!).

      • Pedro Gonzales

        sandie gracias.
        De acuerdo. Él era el actor clave de apoyo en esta excelente película.

  • sandiegojack

    When Obama praises an agreement, run the other way!
    It is a Mickey Mouse budget deal, and a typical bait and switch scenario where they get the increase now, and delay the cuts later on down the road. Only a Rookie would continue to make deals like this when there is so much historical evidence of Dems undermining such deals.

    • LiveFreeOrDie1776

      Run the other way! Agreed! I mean Ryan was working on this with that Left-wing freak Patty Murray! Does anyone really think she was working on this budget in good faith?

      • getthelibsout

        there is NO evidence anywhere that ANY dem/lib/prog has EVER done anything in good faith

        • timsrighty

          liberals are like junkies. you can never, ever trust them. ditto the rinos.

  • Devil Dog

    This is a JOKE! The Republic HAS been destroyed by these criminals.

  • deTocqueville1

    What a loser! Levin makes him disclose immediately. Ryan is a RINO capitulationist! He is a complete dissembler, a postponement guy. So, once again, we reduce the level of increase in spending. MAYBE! Levin sees through the bait and switch. Get these people out of here/there!

  • randyrocker

    Obama’s played Ryan like a YoYo.

  • mike

    Politician speak! Talks forever without saying anything!

    • Mariaca

      Or to paraphrase— ♫ Momma, don’t let your babies grow up to be politicians! ♫

  • JeromeFJ

    Ryan: “We gave them whatever they wanted to avoid a shutdown, because we lack the moral clarity to articulate a responsible budget proposal.”

  • Johnny Goldwater

    And you moron mainline R’s will rush to be Ryan apologists.

    • Anonymous Guy

      And what are the moron progressives rushing to do?

      • deTocqueville1

        Irrelevant question, as Ryan is a progressive fellow traveller.

        • Anonymous Guy

          He’s proven it more than once. Point is 99% of these people, from either side of the same coin are the problem.

    • deTocqueville1

      Exactly!

  • Rightwingger

    Ryan talks fast like liberals!

    • JallopyMacfurry

      Did you even listen? Obviously he believes he did the best he could with what he’s been given. We may disagree, but accusing him of being like a leftist is way below the belt.

  • JoeBroe

    The truth: folks, both parties are bought by corporations.

    We were done a while ago.

    How many of them come out of the Senate and Congress wealthier than when they went in?
    Representation is over.

    Democracy is over.

    Our republic is over.

    • agnau

      This is the truth.
      Our system of money MUST have ever increasing debt to survive.

      EPISODE FOUR

      http://hiddensecretsofmoney.com/

      This is their means of enslaving us. Send this out to everyone you know.
      Henry Ford stated: If the citizens knew about our money system, there would be a revolution tomorrow!!!!!

      Our money system is SLAVERY!!!!!!!!

      We attacked Iraq because they stepped outside our System.
      We want to attack Iran because they have done the same.
      Our GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPTED BY THE BANKS THAT WANT CONTROL OF OUR LIVES.

      • JallopyMacfurry

        I’m interested in what you say, and then you suppose about the motive for stopping Iraq when they went after Kuwait, and later to depose the mass murdering monster (who had used WMD on his own people) in the 2nd Iraq war. You suggest it is about money, which it surely is, but ignore that we were fighting against a genuine evil who should not be there, money or not. This is what confuses me about the libertarian narrative on this issue. Sometimes it good to fight evil, and hate it. Also, letting Iran get anywhere near a nuclear bomb is not only crazy but morally wrong. We are, like it or not, the good guys compared to them. That means we have responsibility.

    • JallopyMacfurry

      The more we move away from the ideology of leftism/statism, the more crony capitalism will become harder and harder, and so the less power corporations will have…in the sense you mean. So really, at core, the enemy is the Left, not corporations. (For of course big buiss. is greedy to the core. That’s to be expectied! The issue is having a system of government which reigns them in, without restricting on individual liberty or stifling small business.

  • Dave W

    doesn’t anyone see that we can’t win with the lamb streem and the left. If we don’t win in 2014 there will be riots mostly from the people who don’t get their gov. check anymore.All believers need to pray!!!

  • TonyR

    I’m not sure if it might be time for a 3rd party that appeals more to independents, Republicans, and even Democrats. The current system is rotting and going bad from money and corruption.

  • Stephen Masek

    Ryan has done the best he could with the fools who voted all of the Democrats into the Senate and the White house.

    • deTocqueville1

      Ryan is a Quisling RINO!

    • Guest

      Wake up and smell the traitor.

    • Tony Jordan

      I disagree. Mr. Ryan has pretty well shown himself to be a RINO. I had expected better from him but unfortunately he’s as much a liar and proponent of the status quo as any politician I’ve seen.
      In this case it appears he and Patty have wrangled themselves another “Atta Boy” from the lobbyists and the Obama crowd.

  • Thomas

    Paul Ryan is one of the many reasons it doesn’t matter who controls the house. Both the Democrats and the Republicans oppose conservatism

    • El Mac

      Damn right.

  • deTocqueville1

    Furthermore, it was Palin, when she went into Wisconsin in a snow storm to help win the recall for Walker, and Walker (and Ryan) never showed up to stand with Breitbart and the real conservatives, who said, to paraphrase: we did not elect them to rearrange THE DECK CHAIRS ON THE FISCAL TITANIC! These folk need to be cleared out root and branch. They are engaging in the destruction of the last bastion of liberty on earth.

  • Dave W

    the biggest 3rd party ever was Perot 20%.We have to win with rebublicans weather you like or not

    • Packer Backer

      Or we can all stop acting like complete and utter morons. If we get a 3rd party proposed on the ballet, it will finally rattle the establishment. As long as it’s not 5 foot nothing with big ears and a funny voice.

      Obama’s way isn’t working, but Bush was just as bad. Sorry but both far right and far left have failed this country. It’s time to bring a moderate in that sides with the people, not big business/pharma, and understands/respects what the constitution was put in place for.

      Let’s not forget, that while Obama is the farthest thing from a constitutionalist, Bush was no better. He signed the Patriot Act into law. This act is what opened the door for all of the spying scandals we’ve had in recent history. Both parties have failed this country miserably. It’s time the sheeple wake up and smell the blood on Washington’s hands and create some real change. Both left/right ideologies are masked, but the same. You can’t deny that.

      • El Mac

        That’s just it brother…we have NOT had a “far right” candidate in this country for decades. All we have had is soviet style Leftists and squishy quisling ‘moderates’….more of the same plus more of the same equals more of the same. Bush/Obama = more of the same. Its time to move and move right or this country is FINISHED.

  • Anonymous Guy

    The only difference between the two parties(and boy do they know how to party) is which one will kill you sooner.

    • sandiegojack

      If only the taxpayers really knew how much they pay just for liquor for the soirees they hold for each other, then we would see a revolt!

  • Dave W

    you have to choose either left or right……Duu

  • http://honor1778.com/ Marcus Porcius

    Paul Ryan is just another RINO establishment policy wonk who only cares about the “optics” instead of actual results. Mark Levin, unlike so many other “conservative” talkers, actually stomped him for his B.S. and called him out. It was awesome. Thanks Mark!

  • lobotrojan

    Mumbo, jumbo, smoke and mirrors…blah, blah, blah, rope- a- dope. This guy Ryan speaks as fast as “a mile a minute” trying to sell a rotten piece of sausage. User fees, revenue increases, unfunded liabilities, operating debt, power of the purse, budget control act, keeping the sequester, blah, blah blah…it is all laughable and sad.

  • Guest

    Fvck this Rino.

  • Guest

    What about amnesty A$$Hole.

  • http://politicalknow.blogspot.com/ SheerPolitics

    They ought to remake the Stepford wives and substitute members of Congress. One day they seem perfectly normal, the next they’re repeating the progressive mantra.

  • ramoncramon

    Not one mention of $15 billion to Afghanistan. $10 billion to GM. $4 billion to Egypt. Billions to African thugs. Billions to the mid east. Billions for global warming. What a rip off.

  • ramoncramon

    Not one mention of $15 billion to Afghanistan. $10 billion to GM. $4 billion to Egypt. Billions to African thugs. Billions to the mid east. Billions for global warming. What a rip.

  • agnau

    They will “CREATE” an attack soon, and blame it on one of our convenient “enemies” to roll us into war. This event will be the excuse for our collapsing economy.
    WHEN NO ONE WILL BUY OUR BONDS, AND WE MUST PRINT MONEY TO BUY THEM OURSELVES, A COLLAPSE IS VERY NEAR. WE ARE CURRENTLY PRINTING AND BUYING $200BILLION PER MONTH, BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WILL BUY!!!!!!!

    Foreign nations are increasing their selling of our bonds!

    THIS WILL COLLAPSE OUR MONEY SYSTEM.
    HYPERINFLATION.

    FALSE FLAG ALERT: RED ALERT

  • Starland sound

    Wow! 23 Billion off of the deficit?!!?

    Isn’t that sort of like shaving a 1/4 inch off of Mount Everest?

    Deficite reductions “over a period of time” essentially means it will never happen… just like the 1986 amnesty deal, the borders were going to be sealed up over time with that deal… YA, RIGHT!

    That’s political speak for “im blowing sunshine up your _ASS cause it aint NEVER gonna happen”.

  • snowshooze

    I don’t Have common ground. I don’t care.
    Where is my REPRESENTATION??

    • Guest

      Normal, white, Christians who pay taxes and obey laws have no representation in America.

      • snowshooze

        I ain’t white.

        And I am STILL not represented.

  • Guest

    Don’t believe the lies from Ryan. primary him OUT!

  • Jim Stone

    23 Billion over a decade is about roll of toilet paper per American citizen every other day. Wow, that’s a lot of shit.

  • AmericanMom

    Boehner, Ryan and the other RINOs have sold their souls. They need to become unemployed and find out firsthand how important budgets are.

    • Tyler Zoom

      says the liberal that doesn’t understand spending.

      • AmericanMom

        Do not call me a liberal – I am not and consider that an insult. If you are, you’re on the wrong website.

  • Yu So Wong

    Just say no to electing lame hypocritical RINOs.

  • azgirl

    Ryan trumpets a $20 billion savings over 10 years when we just lost another $10 billion on GM? How can a billion be a big deal when “saving” it and barely even be reported by most news outlets when it comes to squandering it?

    • Gatortrapper

      Use a different verb. He didn’t “trumpet” anything. He conceded it wasn’t much and concentrated on the optics that the deal represents. I’ve heard him speak and frankly I have to agree that the problem is not that he isn’t on board but he doesn’t have the stinking votes. And whether you like it or not the problem is we are not doing a good job educating people on the facts and allowing logic act on them so that they change their views on the enormous risk that we face.

      I’ve heard several people speak on the issue and the simple fact is although their heart is in the right place, they don’t command the facts and can’t express themselves well on the subject. It’s complex and its boring as it is dangerous. But explaining complex stuff is hard work and few have the talent. Let’s start by using the correct verb to describe his description of the savings, which he basically called mediocre. But he did highlight the optics and when perception is reality then optics becomes paramount.

      • John Feet

        I beg to differ. it isn’t complex, its just bigger. There is a major difference between the two. No matter how big or complex the budget itself becomes, the budget principles are the same as a family budget. No family can spend and borrow their way into prosperity, they will go broke. Yes, the govt. can print money but every dollar printed dilutes the purchasing power of those dollars already in existence. Printing is really just borrowing. Back to the family budget: You cannot spend and borrow your way to prosperity. You have to balance the budget, pay down debt, before you can improve your standard of living. It is simple to understand, it’s just bigger, but no more complicated. What is complex and complicated and difficult to understand are all of the gimmicks govt uses to pull the wool over our eyes. A family cannot lie to itself about its budget situation. And a nation cannot long endure if it lies to its people about its economic situation. It IS simple. People don’t want to face it because they want the other guy to pay, not them. Obama uses the “other guy” tactic in every move he makes. Under Obamacare, Obama supporters finally found out the “other guy” was them.

        • Gatortrapper

          You’re preaching to the choir. While I agree with the household budget comparison the left doesn’t and offered the choice between threats to cuts to emotionally favored programs (regardless of merit) or acceptance of some panacea explanation that “government spending is different and the economists say we are okay so long as debt is X% of GDP” the ignorant populace accepts it. That’s your challenge. It’s not me that you have to worry about.

          If you differ with my view, which I accept as being equally valid, how do you explain the lack of resonance of the alarms about the debt we sound?

  • RossPoldark

    America is the last beacon of freedom from where others run to. If not America, then what other country?? There is NONE, so it is important we fight to retain what our founding fathers fought so hard to achieve and preserve.

  • Dean Walsh

    $23 Billion cut over 10 years? Go to the Debt Clock website and watch how fast a Billion clicks away. It’s like a rich guy reducing the amount he leaves in the tip jar at Dunkin Donuts, and claiming he’s trimmed his household budget.

    • azgirl

      There have been at least two months I know of in which Obama spent over $200 billion. That’s $200 BILLION in each of those single months. And we’re supposed to celebrate because we may eventually see $20 billion saved at some point in the future?

  • agnau

    If things are so good, why is the federal reserve still pumping massive amounts of money into the system?
    MONEY VELOCITY is a measure of money moving through the economy.
    this is what it looks like:
    http://research.stlouisfed.org/fredgraph.png?g=pS8

    falling like a rock.
    They are lying about economic conditions.
    They are about to take us to WAR. This will be the excuse for the collapsing economy.
    Unemployment is continuing to increase. the labor participation rate is falling dramatically. Their 7% unemployment rate is a lie!
    It is much closer to 20%.

  • Gatortrapper

    The dynamic is this folks: we need votes and right now a large segment of the population are confined to their “fish bowls” and never look outside until there is a ruckus. When they do it’s for a very short time and they have a short attention span. During that short look they get hit by the fusillade of propaganda from the left which uses short, emotional, distorted messaging that they can consume easily. The bigger issues that you know, and that I know, exist are complex, dirty and require thought and reflection to fully understand. Given the choice between a fast food delivery of something they “want to believe” and the sit down service speed of actually knowing the issue which do they choose?

    I didn’t create the problem, nor did you. And arguing over the problem and its source doesn’t change the reality of the fact the we need votes from the “fish bowl” electorate.

    Personally I don’t think Congress is doing enough to crawl into every agency budget and find the graft, corruption and self dealing waste that I know exists in government. But we need sober, articulate candidates who share that view, or whatever view it is that you have, who can get elected. Assuming we find general agreement on who they might be, we still need votes.

    The bottom line is we need to prevent establishment GOP’ers from seizing defeat from the jaws of victory and engaging in another round of brand destroying shutdowns over the government. While I have no problem with shutting it down, the “fish bowl” occupiers do have a problem and will remember it: and this when the Dims are on an uncontrolled train wreck that is Obamacare. We need to let that train run its course and use the educational value that it provides to get control of the Senate and expand our presence in the House. Make no bones about it, we still have plenty to fight about in the interim, with Immigration and regulatory expansion being on the list. But this is something where we need to take what we can get and concentrate on maximizing the outcome of Obamacare’s fallout.

    • Flechette

      While I agree with your assessment (great post BTW!), and also agree with the tactic of knowing when to pick your fight, I must point out that the empirical evidence *at this time* is the opposite of your conclusion.

      While the “fish bowl” people do have short attention spans, they also tend to defer the important decisions to those who have longer attention spans. Right now, the Conservative base of the Republicans are really, REALLY ticked off! The base will show up at the polls in much greater numbers than the fish bowl electorate.

      Look at Cruz; all of the establishment politicians were chiding him for rocking the boat in Washington, appearing to be less willing to negotiate and possibly destroying “the brand” of kinder, gentler Republicans.

      The reality is that he is now immensely popular and will have no problem getting reelected, because the base sees that he kept his promise to deal with the issues as he explained to them in his election.

      Look at Scott Walker, Governor of Wisconsin. The left threw a huge fit when he got rid of collective bargaining and got a recall election…and Walker won with a greater margin in the recall.

      I do not think shying away from the fight is a good strategy. We should go for the throat and destroy the Left before they destroy us.

      • Gatortrapper

        I’m not one to compromise and share your views as I’m spoiling for a fight on these issues. But I’ve been doing some extensive talking with folks trying to assess things in my area and what I’m hearing is disturbing. We need to win elections and as a Tea Party person I want to rid the GOP of the RINO’s as much as anyone. But for the GOP to win we need to let Obamacare take its slow, painful crash without any distractions that are of our own making. Everything we predicted is coming to pass and worse. That is putting cracks in many “fish bowls.” And that’s what we want, for them to come out and see that its was Obamacare that has caused the harm, and not have them emerge to have the Dims pointing to a second shutdown. Trust me, we have plenty to fight about during this time, but the prior shutdown really, really bent people because they just DON’T understand that the fiscal problem is one that appears overnight and drowns them. They don’t get it and won’t. I can toss more numbers about than anyone I know on the issue and have refined down to a short elevator pitch and the fact is until their “fish bowls” show a problem they don’t care.

      • John Feet

        Which goes to prove that when any republican runs and stands on conservative issues consistently, they always win.

    • Greg Willis

      Ah. The voice of reason.

    • John Feet

      I’m a contractor for the Govt. at a headquarters position. The Feds I directly support spend a lot of time on the hill with staffers, but never the Rep. The Feds get away with sloth because the staffers are idiots. The Rep is busy getting his hair done for his next appearance.

      • Gatortrapper

        So my point is correct. The MOC’s don’t do the work necessary to have command over these budget issues and have to depend on others to spoon feed them and direct how to vote.

  • agnau

    It is very interesting how Obama has been talking PEACE with Iran, while it wasn’t that long ago he was blasting them for their nuclear weapons proliferation. He is purposefully acting like he wants peace before the false flag. He will then react to attacks on our country with WAR to cover the economic collapse brought on by the Federal Reserve money system.
    Do not buy this. It is a lie!

    • Jonny Unite-Us

      Interesting interpretation. That makes a lot of sense.

    • bezane

      The President tried to bolster his “legacy” by hiding scandals (pick one) by intervening in Syria, and when it didn’t “float” well in public and congressional approval, he copped a plea with a lame Soviet included plea deal. And furthermore it left the Saudis fuming over the change of course, the Soviets with a heroic peacekeeping image, and thousands of rebels and dissidents flapping on a wind-drenched wire without a net.

      So anything is possible.

    • maritzka

      Did you come here to discuss the topic, or just to spew elephant dung ? Maybe your name is really Madame Cleo, since you know so much about the future. I think there is no possibility of a budget agreement that would ever suit the Baggers. And I make a prediction that it will be blamed on Dems, as per the usual KOCH, ALEC, FOX script that you baggers follow down to each sickening letter.

      • Monroville

        Yup, because it’s NEVER the Democrats fault. They control the Senate, the White House AND the Supreme Court… and yet you still whine about how the Republicans are wrecking the government. How much power do the Democrats need before they are capable of doing ANYthing?

        Let’s also keep in mind that the Republican House HAS passed multiple budgets… but it’s been Harry Reid who has been tabling the budget bills and not even letting the Senate vote on them.. which would mean that it’s been Harry Reid who has been shutting the government down all these times.

        But please, keep scapegoating the Republicans for what your own party is doing.

        • John Feet

          Sadly it’s just cover. They passed the bills knowing the Senate would reject. It’s just cover. Their job is to tighten or cut off the purse, They have sole consitituional authority for this, but they don’t do it. So they pass bill after bill and look us straight in the eye and say they are doing their job. Pathetic.

      • Crewjobs

        Notice this leftist did nothing to refute the content of the post but instead attacked the person in a series of ad hominem attacks. Dragging in the name Koch brothers like some sort of incantation or empty catch phrase is equally lame.

        • PRspicacious

          They are mentally deranged, yes. All of them. Exceptions? Can’t think of any at the moment.

      • Brian Smith

        did YOU come here to discuss the topic?

  • nwwapiti

    The faster a Politician talks the more you can be assured they aren’t telling you the truth… Paul is talking ten miles a minute here, total BS

    • Brian Smith

      Paul Ryan is miles ahead of you. you just can’t keep up. you are an idiot. your grasp of logic has already proven that.

      • nwwapiti

        Get back into the middle of the herd, what you’ve proven is that you’d buy a used car from Obama why not a budget that doesn’t solve a thing. Freaking lemming.

  • Renny

    Only a fool trusts the liberals.

    • TheGrimCreeper

      From what I’ve seen since the defeat of Romney/Ryan in the presidential race, I’d say Paul Ryan IS a fool.

      • Brian Smith

        why? your comment makes absolutely no sense. I could say, since you negatively commented on Paul Ryan you must be a homosexual. it would make as much sense.

  • American White Dude

    Balanced Budget Amendment now, @USAWhiteDude

  • agnau

    Look at who is buying US treasuries:

    http://marketupdate.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/us-treasuries-purchased-2013-fed.png

    NO ONE ELSE WILL!!!!!

    BIDEN:
    “We have to spend more money, we are broke!”

  • http://spiritnewsdaily.com/ Donovan Moore

    No “tax” increases. Only USER FEES. Now Ryan can see he didn’t raise taxes, but he did, they just don’t call them that anymore. And they wonder why we hate politicians.. I don’t. They are sleazy lying vermin..

  • ONTIME

    Most of the decisions coming out of DC now are just the result of bad leadership by C- representation, incumbency of elitism and a loss of integrity…

  • Lorenzo Porricelli

    Mark Levin makes a living off of brash comments which are so rude and only done to give him some notoriety so he can chase ratings.. He should be locked in room listening to himself for a week. What a horrible radio voice. And what an ego – if anyone disagrees with him he just calls them stupid and shuts them off. Hardly a class act, Mr Ryan is class and displayed it, Mr Levin embarrassed us all.

    • Kenster56

      Actually all of our politicians embarrass us.

      • PRspicacious

        nope. Ted Cruz does not embarrass me. Speak for yourself. Group-think is for brain-dead Leftists & Statists & Totalitarians.

        • Brak Obola

          “Ted Cruz does not embarrass me.”

          He’s a Republican. He will.

          • PRspicacious

            You own a crystal ball? You know nothing about the future. Neither do I. Neither does anyone else.

            Until Cruz does embarrass me he does NOT.

            Setting up impossible to attain expectations is itself…unreasonable.

            • Brian Smith

              Ted Cruz is a poseur. I don’t trust him.

              • PRspicacious

                Yours is a conclusion. Yet you share no facts, reasoning, or evidence to bolster your claim.

    • Gatortrapper

      Evidence then that the general content of his remarks and the insights he offers trumps his radio voice. Substance over form.

      I don’t think he was impolite and actually thought he was balanced in how he addressed the issues with Cong. Ryan. But Ryan was equally level headed and balanced in his statements, seeing this a victory on key “perception” issues. And while I don’t like the idea that perception prevails over reality, the fact is that it often does, especially in DC.

      I think Ryan sees this a one battle in a larger war. He achieved a draw in this one which he sees as a key symbolic victory. He believes that a draw here and the attrition that Obamacare is wreaking upon the Dims set us up for real victories later. Given that he is in the trenches I’m going to take the time to read the whole deal and then form an opinion. I suggest that others do the same.

      • Crook Ofraud

        if they didn’t pass the http://www.fairtax.org then it’s not a complete victory … it’s only a victory for however many months and then they do it again…. without a real budget this is the only way and since obum the kenyan fraud can’t produce a budget he should be fired along with the idiot dems like murray and others

      • ddanimald

        Balanced budget in 10 years? What more do you need to read. Ryan is Just happy he still has healthcare. He sounds like he is happy that it was only the Sudetenland he gave up and not all of Checkoslovakia .

        • Gatortrapper

          Why the hate on me? I’m not Ryan. I merely was giving my view of where he sees things, nothing more.

          This is not a situation where anyone can dictate to anyone yet no one here seems to accept anything but complete and total, unconditional surrender by the Dims on the Budget. What planet are you from?

          We need to let the full, unprecedented impact of the failure of ObamaCare to have its consequences on the 2014 election cycle and take the probable gains there and then make the changes you think necessary.

    • SickofObama1

      It’s called truth my dear….Mark Levin tells it like it is…even though you pansy ass liberals can’t take it.

    • PRspicacious

      No guarantee about winning back the Senate. None. Nada. Just a pipe dream at this point in time.

      signed,

      true conservative /tea partier

    • Brak Obola

      Mr. Ryan is a lazy, timid loser in a party of lazy, timid do-nothing losers.

      Levin should have kicked his weenie ass.

      • Brian Smith

        you don’t know much about Paul Ryan.

        • timsrighty

          you ain’t missin’ much

    • John Feet

      What part of “they get the money now and promise to cut later and later never happens” was brash? He asked legitimate questions of a paid representative of the people. Ryan’s response is that we don’t have the numbers, completely ignoring that the House is given sole power over the purse by the Constitution. WE GAVE THEM THE NUMBERS. The voters in 2010 gave Republicans the house, and this is what they do with it. Ryan wants to preserve his own skin at the expense of doing what he is constitutionally bound to do.

  • Ordinary_Guy

    It might not be a bad strategy to lay low — until taking back the Senate –rather than getting into a fight they can’t win. Keep it cool, start talking about how they would solve healthcare issues, develop domestic energy and create “economic freedom zones” for bankrupt cities, etc.. In other words, promote common sense positive solutions with no fighting, while Obamacare reveals Obama and the Democrats as the lying idiots they are.

    • John Feet

      I understand, but the analogy doesn’t hold. In what historical framework does laying low in a war or battle work? Patton over ran Sicily in a race with Montgomery, The Nazis over ran Austria, the Cheks, and Poland in blitzkrieg. England laid low as a strategy until their agreement with Poland finally forced them to fight. It was a very close fight and millions lost their lives because England did not check Hitler when they could. Vietnam was the same until Nixon began carpet bombing. No one wants to make the uncomfortable choice between two bad choices, but history teaches us that once assaulted, the sooner you defend yourself with overwhelming force the better chance you have of survival. The power of the purse belongs to the house, but they simply won’t use it because they are afraid that the fight will get very ugly and casualties will occur. So they wish themselves into delaying tactics hoping things will get better. Meanwhile this timidity emboldens the enemy who then doubles down on his effort to obliterate his enemy. Fight or go home.

  • SickofObama1

    Man, they certainly aren’t teaching english in school if this dude is any example. At least he got his picture right…he is a dick.

    • RedinDenver

      I’m not at all sure that this ‘blogger’ is anything that he is pretending to be.

  • ddanimald

    You do not negotiate with terrorists. Period. Iranian or Democrats. Treat as hostage situation.

  • Poppy Haynes

    Way to go, Mark!

  • RedinDenver

    There is no way to get everything you want, as a conservative, when you control only one half of Congress with a liberal in the White House. Paul Ryan got what he could, and is trying to ensure there is no possibility of another government shutdown any time soon, meaning the focus will continue to be on the disastrous ‘unintended consequences’ of ObamaCare.

    You have to WIN ELECTIONS in order to be able to have more control. What Paul Ryan has done may actually help with that.

    • PRspicacious

      Wrong. The focus is not about constantly focusing on what may or may not happen in the future. The chances of the GOP regaining power in the US Senate is less than 50% at the moment.

      At the moment is what counts, too. The present moment. And that necessarily means doing what we can as conservatives to stop this venal, corrupt, and evil administration. At every turn.

      Next time I’ll tell you how I actually feel about this matter :)

      • Brak Obola

        They’ve already proven that when they DO control the Senate, they have no interest in limiting Big Stupid Government in any way whatsoever.

        They need to go. All of them. NOW!

        • PRspicacious

          Including Senators Lee, Paul, and Cruz?

          And replace those 3 with whom? More RINOs?

          no thank you.

    • astrophysics

      While I understand your point, your logic is incomplete. The government is not taking in enough money to fund its current operations. That means, that even without controlling the positive agenda you can force cuts by stopping new borrowing. No agreement is required. We WON the election, and we control the house. That means cuts can be forced simply via political will. We already have the actual Constitutional power. That of course is why Boehner caved even when Republican fund raising was going through the roof. He takes his orders from the US Chamber of Commerce, not from the electorate. Despite that, his attempt to snake the tea party (as with the failing effort of McConnell to do the same) has been unsuccessful.

    • Brak Obola

      Nonsense. When the GOPussies controlled all of Congress PLUS the White House, what did they do besides steal more liberties and spend like a drunken Boehner?

      They’re Whigs and they need to go. All of them. NOW!

    • Molon Labe

      Paul Ryan is a Republicrat! until we the people stop playing the 2 party game! we will never get a gov that represents the people. Iceland had the same corrupt bankers and financial crisis. you know what they did they let them go bankrupt and then put them in jail not give them trillions in bailouts

  • ddanimald

    You are a paid liberal troll.

  • Crook Ofraud

    his picture says it all, he must be a homo like obum and hang out at man country too. only thing obum is doing is breaking every law and treating congress like a ho… how many laws has obum the kenyan fraud broken so far? Time for congress to impeach the kenyan fraud and send him to jail where he can satisfy bubba and his homies.

  • Crook Ofraud

    open the CAFR audit the FED, lets see where the trillions are? the budget is a gimmic

  • ddanimald

    Balanced budget in 10years? How about now!!!!!! Defund 75% of the executive branch before they do any more damage. Why do you mr Boehnor keep giving them money to mess with everything. Biden 2015

    • Brak Obola

      Yep. Is Ryan going to be where we can find him in 10 years, so we can beat his ass when it doesn’t even come close to happening as he says it will?

  • PRspicacious

    This is what President Obama should have worn when he shook the hand of Raul Castro yesterday:

    http://thecampofthesaints.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/obama-as-stalin-reaganiterepublican.jpg

  • whittierte

    Ryan keeps saying “I” No thanks

  • $74215619

    First it was Benedict Rubio on immigration and now Benedict Ryan on both immigration and the budget.
    RIP GOP as this loyal voter will never ever vote or support another Republican. Gone are the days of voting for the Republicans as the “lesser of two evils”. Both parties are evil and destroying this country, the demonrats just don’t pretend, unlike the wolves in sheeps clothes Republicans.

    • PRspicacious

      couldn’t agree more. nicely articulated.

    • Brian Smith

      “the democrats don’t pretend”, that is funny!

    • Greg Willis

      Who was it who said “never say never”?

      • timsrighty

        I was out sick that day in school. enlighten me dude.

        • Greg Willis

          If I could remember, I wouldn’t have asked the question. Sheeesh! Look it up yourself, if you know how.

          • timsrighty

            geez…just jokin’ dude

      • timsrighty

        I think maybe alice cooper?

  • PRspicacious

    You folks familiar with that ‘Knockout Game’ phenomenon, correct?

    Check this out:

    http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/obamacare-knockout-game.jpg

  • David_from_San_Diego

    Ever since Ryan came out in favor of the invasion and occupation of the United States by the country of Mexico, I don’t give a rat’s @$$ what he says or does. He’s a traitor.

  • Greg Willis

    I would say “I often wonder”, but in actuality, I don’t wonder at all. I believe that the GOP is “led” by three people who are easily “bought”. Bohner by how much booze someone gives him to drink. McCain, how many Georgetown parties he’s invited to attend. Everyone knows that Bohner is a drunk and McCain is senile. Then there’s Milquetoast McConnell who will do anything necessary to avoid a fight or lose his power. I’m afraid “There’s no there there”with any of the Elephantine leadership. At least Ryan is showing SOME leadership, even if a lot of people disagree with him.

    • timsrighty

      so you’re saying there’s a chance…………….

      • Greg Willis

        I’m saying that IMMATURITY is the single greatest problem facing Congress, Obama, SCOTUS, the Bureaucrazy and most of all, the stupid media people, left and right. This is a country of immature, young souls. Well, that’s OK, but the ones who make it to government – or should I call it “Nanny” jobs, don’t seem to know what to do when they get there. So, it is up to us to grow up, elect grownups who will act like mature adults, face and fix the real problems. I think Ryan falls on the mature side of the fense.

        • timsrighty

          I agree, stand aside let the adults take over. adults as in plural. the real adults don’t want anything to do with Washington.

          • John Feet

            i watched CSPAN on the house yesterday. BLA BLA BLA, memorialize this guy, global warming is real, Memorialize a Pearl Harbor vet, yada yada yada. Meanwhile over in the Senate, they waited over an hour for a Senator to take the floor for a speech. This is called “work” for them. There is no sense of urgency on anything, just a lethargy for the status quo. It’s hopeless.

            • timsrighty

              there’s a sense of urgency out here…you know…/the real world. we will prevail. no doubt.

  • Douglas

    The idea that there is nothing to cut from the Defense budget is absurd!

    • timsrighty

      they already cut jesus out of the defense budget.

    • Greg Willis

      OK. It’s assumed, especially by liberals, that the military is a useless appendage. So, getting by that, instead, let’s cut 10% across the board in the bureaucracy for a start. Then, put a moritorium on all new spending and stop this nonsense of automatic “budget” increases each year. It’s a bureaucracy but there’s no management there. Only administration. Management is what real business does. Administration, the moving of chess board pieces around so no one loses a pawn is “administration”. Start with cutting the bureaucracy. Then, we’ll talk about entitlements and then we’ll talk about business incentives. Cutting the military is waaaaaay down the line. Obama has already cut it by half anyway.

      • Douglas

        It is not way down the line, it is a huge portion! My point is across the board cts, including Defense and I am not talking about reducing the increase, I mean cuts from the baseline!

        • Greg Willis

          I don’t agree one bit. Who’s gonna protect you when the Chinese decide to expand their air space to the West Coast and we only have 4 carriers running?
          The problem with the military is the same problem every country has with the military. Inexcusable misuse of the money they are given. But who’s to blame for that? Congress who pushes their pet projects, or the President whose “leadership”, if you can gratuitously call it that, mismanages the military as Commander in Chief? Or the military inefficiency? Look, we have a LOT to protect.
          Immaturity. Let’s begin there.

          • Douglas

            Bla Bla Bla! There is tremendous waste in Defense, as well, as fiefdoms, pet projects, mismanagement and a bunch of Generals who need retiring!

            • Greg Willis

              Denegrate it all you want, but when someone comes to take away what you have, you will be very glad we even HAVE a military. Liberals, like you, hate the military because they impose discipline on the members of the military. Liberals HATE to be told they can’t do what they want to do. Just like a 3 year old HATES to be told “NO”. Only a foolish person would cut the military more than Obama has already cut it. Time to trim the rest of the ham first.

              • John Feet

                With this administration, It’s going to be the Military that takes away everything we have.

  • Darryn Campbell

    Read between the lines Mark — Ryan is saying it is NOT POSSIBLE to do anything substantial with this president in the white house, and he is completely correct. He’s doing just what he can to hold the line as best as possible, KEEP THE FOCUS ON OBAMACARE, and prevent significant further damage until (non-Bush) Republicans regain control and can enact some real reforms.

  • otaycec

    Ryan is correct on this. If Republicans pushed for any more than they got, the press would blame Republicans for the rancor and impediments to Democrat “progress.” It’s better to slow spending as best as they can, let Americans see what Obamacare is going to do to the economy and to the cost of our insurance, and the Dems will be voted out of congress in another year. Then once we get rid of Obama, we might, just might, be able to make a dent in the debt, get rid of Obamacare, and make the U.S. a more business friendly country.

  • charlesmountain

    Barry Soetoro is a fraud. The only document he has released to the
    public is a forgery. Arpaio and Zullo have a bead on the usurper. Orange
    jumpsuits for him and all involved in the greatest hoax ever
    perpetrated on the American people.

  • charlesmountain

    Soetoro best enjoy his last days of pretending to be pResident…

    The media is jumping ship. Democrats are scurrying for cover.
    They’ve been covering for an illegal alien who has ultimately sent thousands of people to their death.

    The final death blow will be when Sheriff Arpaio’s forensic evidence of
    forgery proving clearly that Soetoro is an illegal alien is entered
    into the upcoming Alabama Supreme Court case.
    The One is about to be exposed.
    The Day of Reckoning is near.
    It will be breathtaking…
    This country is going to quake when the inevitable truth is revealed.

    Be prepared…Be very prepared.

    • Greg Willis

      I’ve been “prepared” for over a year and still no “evidence”. Look, I want him out like everyone else does. But what’s holding up Sherrif Joe? If the evidence exists, why hasn’t he brought it forward. It sounds to me like more WorldNetDaily BS that they’re known for making up to sell more website views. WND is not a legitimate news source. And they’re the ones pushing the story. I want to see results. To date, there aren’t any tangible ones.

      • JallopyMacfurry

        I’ve seen the video and evidence they’ve had from months ago re the forged BC. It was incredibly compelling, and it just wasn’t reported. Reporting on it doesn’t create reality, genius.

    • JallopyMacfurry

      I sure hope you’re right about this upcoming expose, because I believe it’s true. But, why do you think ‘the world’ will listen, when the MSM, or where the world gets most of its perspective, will listen or care? It seems to me, especially lately, that if you are a leftist you can get away with near anything. ):

      • nostudme1

        Anything is now nothing, nothing becomes anything. Period.

  • Molon Labe

    lookey lookey where saving a nickel over here! but close your eyes while we spend a million over here

  • Clover11111

    The question is why do they NOT wish to take on the entitlement society? We know the drill, R’s hate you and D’s are your friend and the feeders, the taxpayer, is going broke. Is Ryan another Rinocrat?

    • Newtie and the Beauty

      Ryan is up against handpicked socialist Patty Murray and her crew, as well as the socialists elected by their constituents in the House.
      Personally, I pity him going up against the likes of Chris Van Holland and Patty Murray, both of whom who never came across a tax dollar they hadn’t already spent on an unconstitutional, socialist agenda that is steadily sending our country straight down the tubes.

  • timsrighty

    since when is 500 million a drop in the bucket? Oh crap we’re talking about D.C. silly me.

    • George Pecoraro

      There are about 3.5 million people in the US. Therefore, 500 million is about $1.4 per capita. That is less than a McDonald’s french fries. I drop in the bucket, eh?

      • timsrighty

        listen college boy. it’s all these drops in the bucket that rolled 17 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. Take your mc’d fries and stick ‘em where the sun don’t shine. how do we even begin to solve our debt with clueless people like you Jorge.

        • CalCoolidge

          Maybe we’ll just have to wait till the government fails.

        • George Pecoraro

          Who said I went to college? You sure show your intelligence by the way you write and spell. Its George – the name of kings & presidents!! Get it right.
          I also want to lower taxes. JFK lowered taxes and he was a democrat. Reagan granted asylym (sp) to Mexicans and he was Mr. conservative. It is all about compromise.The liberals are in control because the majority elected them. I did not. But it is what it is and there has to be compromise. Get it?

      • John Queue

        You ain’t too bright, are ya Geo? It’s thinking like yours that drive up debt and force the rest of us to pay it off…JUST HOW MANY $1.40 are you willing to pay before you tell someone to enough is enough? Pfft… pathetic.

      • Brawnde

        There are 317M plus people in the US today. There are 3.5M people in Connecticut though. The last time I went to McDonalds I think it was about $6.50 just for me. do you work for Maxine Waters… :-)

        • George Pecoraro

          You must go SUPER SIZE with the fries!!

          • CalCoolidge

            Divide the national debt and the unfunded liabilities by the population, if you can. That’ beyond super size.

  • JallopyMacfurry

    Ryan is a good guy, in the sense of being in the role of trying to get as much done constructively while working within a situation of the Left having power in the senate and the presidency. To suppose he should be in the role of the revolutionary, ignores the issue of timing. I know the country should stand up against the statist Left, years ago, but worry things haven’t gotten bad enough yet for enough Americans to realize it’s time, now. So I don’t know. I don’t think he’s as bad as many of these comments make out, though.

    • timsrighty

      a revolutionary is what we need. I just don’t think he’s all that.. I respect the guy to point, but he’s no fighter

      • JallopyMacfurry

        I’m still hoping for Cruz., but not sure how the birther issue will play out in this ridiculous, shallow, leftism driven, emotive based cultural ether. West isn’t ‘sunny’ enough IMO, and Rubio’s legitimately lost trust. Christie is a joke, literally. Rand Paul? I’m not sure.

        • timsrighty

          I feel your pain dude. but there is the Hillary factor. and yeah, I know the media will back her {unless a new savior strikes their fancy). I like west a lot. and they’ll call him “uncle tom”. the media will never , ever back a repub. period. but don’t underestimate the people. the ones that aren’t on the dole. we are still legion. mrs. Clinton is going to have a hard time explaining herself to the people.

          • nostudme1

            What difference does it make? Keep the presses rolling.

            • timsrighty

              that’s what she said about four dead American in Benghazi. what dif does it make? a lot

        • Brawnde

          Stay away from voting for any more lawyers. Rand Paul is exactly what the country needs, but the multinationals will squash him like a bug with hidden negative propaganda pieces and make turds like Christy and Clinton appear appetizing to the voting public.

        • John P.

          I have very similar feelings Mac, … It’s a shame that we have sissified most people so someone like West is considered too ‘rough'; I think he is the best of the bunch. Obama’s foreign policy and military downgrades will cause more bullying in the Middle East and Asia and possibly war. Our idiot narcissist prez thought he could come in a save the world. The damage to our country is going to be difficult to correct.

    • DrColostomy

      AMNYSTY= RINO

    • No One Important

      Any person that thinks dumping 11+ million illegal immigrants into an economy that has 94 million Americans unemployed is very much “as bad as they say”. . . . .We have record low worker participation in the work force. People desperate for jobs. . . .the CBO has said this will depress Americans’ wages for 20 years. . . .Now tell me – how great is Ryan?He’s not great at all. . .it’s time to send him to the unemployment line also. . .let him live in the “Obamaworld” that is reality for the rest of us. . . .let him find out just how bad it is out here . . . .maybe he would then realize how stupid his idea was. . . . .He has now spent too much time “inside the castle walls.” send him to the unemployment line so he can find out how real America is struggling with what they’ve done to us. . . .

      • Rednecksrule

        That little POS spent his entire life inside of the beltway. He is a lifetime Beltway scumbag…

      • JallopyMacfurry

        If Ryan was foolish enough to fall for the Left’s so called ‘amnesty’, than I completely agree. Leftists garner votes like vultures, off the rot of or the worst of human nature, fear and pride. If he couldn’t see that this surge from the left for illegals in the voting block, in context with their move towards gov takeover of our health and life/death, is not worth utterly opposing, he’s out in my book as well. Just a fool after all.

    • finnegan

      Ryan is an establishment hack. His original budget was no better than the status quo. He is a cog in the machine, nothing more. We need other options.

  • Yardbird

    “The beatings will continue until morale improves”

  • jammgor

    I have a relative in defense industry. He says the Military are using a lot of old equipment from the 80s and 90s. The left are destroying the Military by stealth. Women, gays, cuts, and increasing funding for Obama’s projects, foreigners in the forces, are the means

    • Darryn Campbell

      I am in the defense industry, and a staunch conservative, and though there is equipment being used that was developed in the 90’s, and possibly 80’s (I’m not sure), there is plenty of new R&D going on, and new technologies being put to use all the time. It is disingenuous to suggest the left is subliminally destroying our military capabilities, and irresponsible to suggest it is due to women or gays.

      • timsrighty

        with all due respect, wise up. the left has literally spit on our “defense industry” Nam ring a bell? they’ve called you rapists, baby killers, everything they can think of. john Kerry’s on the left, he sure had some nice things to say about those brave boys in Nam. the only reason the left “seems” to support or military is to turn them on us. gays, women? come on man. who cares as long as there’s a finger on he trigger. the war machine will go on libs or cons. the question is who will the libs use that power on? thank you for our service.

        • Darryn Campbell

          With all due respect yourself, you have no idea what you’re talking about. That’s not to say traditional libs and cons don’t both have a vested interest in waging war, but your points are so scattered I can’t decide what to respond to.

          • timsrighty

            thank you for making my point. what have you guys done with the terrorist from Fort Hood? how about Benghazi? yeah libs sure know how to keep us safe. put a terrorist on the cover of rolling stone.

            • Darryn Campbell

              “You guys”? Are you suggesting I’m a liberal/progressive/democrat? None of the above sir, sorry to disappoint you. Again, you prove you have no idea what you’re talking about.

        • timsrighty

          yeah I know it was bad. I take it back except for the part about Kerry. Darryn seems to be cool with my outburst. i’ll try not to act like a hysterical liberal ever again.

      • timsrighty

        political correctness in the military. recipe for disaster.

        • Darryn Campbell

          Sorry, your point is lost on me. This discussion has nothing to do with political correctness.

          • finnegan

            Really? You don’t think having gay soldiers openly out there, putting women on the front lines, and making Marines ditch their traditional uniforms for more “modern” “unisex” outfits negatively effects morale? A military-wide crusade to quell “excessive manliness”? That’s not bad?

            You don’t think layers of PC lawyers and bureaucrats twiddling their thumbs while deciding whether or not to greenlight combat engagement while soldiers are getting shot up in the field has any effect on morale or performance?

            Not mention ammo and replenishment shortages, discharging senior military officers for not “playing nice”, using service families as political pawns… the list goes on and on with this administration.

            If you want to talk about irresponsible – it is exactly the recent focus on gays, women, and PC nonsense that is irresponsible – because it is an open slap in the face while all the other damage is being done behind the scenes.

            • Darryn Campbell

              No, I don’t think having gay soldiers and women on the front lines adversely affects morale of trained, professional soldiers, sorry. What evidence have you of that? And their outfits? Seriously? The rules of engagement are what they are, and were written by people far smarter than you or I, and your gripes with them are likely ill-informed. Have you ever served? And while I am certainly inquisitive of the apparent max exodus of senior military officials under this regime, I don’t have enough evidence yet of malfeasance, though I continue to look for it, but I don’t see a connection to political correctness, only potential corruption which is a very different animal.

              • finnegan

                Trained professional soldiers are no different than trained professional Police officers, or trained professional athletes, or trained professional doctors. And there is an abundance of evidence supporting my suggestions regarding morale and performance in light of the aforementioned issues.
                Regarding the current rules of engagement, the evidence of their failure and futility is also abundant. And since the administration is changing them willy nilly, either in futile pursuit of a positive image on the world stage, or to intentionally weaken our combat effectiveness (not sure which), I think we can forget the hope that they were actually written by intelligent folks.
                I don’t want to go off on a rant, so I’ll just agree to disagree. I simply see things differently. Perhaps I’m wrong. Perhaps I’m right.

      • Mxpctlk

        Really? Really ???

        Having recently retired from the military and personally lived thru endless DACOWITS-driven initiatives, PC “training” sessions and similar wrong-headed direction, I most heartily disagree. Progressive, Marxist influence in the guise of flavor-of-the-month PC that has nothing to do with war fighting is very alive and thriving.

        • Darryn Campbell

          The influence exists, but you dramatically overstate it. Believe me, much is being done in the areas of advanced warfighting.

          • Mxpctlk

            Nothing dramatic in what I said and not overstated. When we have Navy Admiral Locklear, who heads PAC FLEET, claim that climate change is the biggest challenge the U.S. faces, I think my contention is quite factual and downplayed if anything. If you’re as close to the military as you say, you know such PC nonsense is embraced at the top and driven down through the services.

            Certainly advanced technologies are constantly being explored – but we’re talking about two issues you combined and for which you provided the same answer. It correctly correctly applies to the technology issue, but not to the issue of left/progressive, Marxist influence.

      • timsrighty

        sorry dude, but when anyone mentions military and the left in a thought my radar goes way up. again, thank you for your service to our country..i think i’ll go eat some crow right now

        • Darryn Campbell

          Understood. I have similar reflexive movements. :-) But please, don’t thank me. I haven’t served, I am a defense contractor.A dedicated one, but not an enlisted man nor officer.

  • Patrick McKenna

    levin seemed annoyed at ryan. mark is straight up and doesn’t sugar coat for anyone. I appreciate that honesty in the media. it’s non-existent actually,

  • John Queue

    Mark….I love you, man…but you were too nice to Mr. Ryan and all his smoke and mirrors nonsense.

  • http://drudgereport.com/ Myles Standish

    If obama applauds the budget agreement, that alone is a 10 acre RED FLAG!!

  • Howard Hofelich

    Can the country endure gridlock every 3 months? I doubt it. Bottom line : The Congress and Senate cannot help the middle class anymore. Get up off your fat lazy ass and get a job. even if its less than minimum wage. Next Chapter: Lettting the air out of inflated housing prices…returning to 1970’s prices as an alternative to the currency going BUST. We are bankrupt people. The black Nero bankrupted the country with going from 6 trillion to 20 trillion in debt

    • CalCoolidge

      We have endured gridlock for 225 years. On the other hand, Hitler’s regime had very little gridlocl.

  • DrColostomy

    Eat s hit, scumbag. Fuggin Neo Nazi H0M0.

  • timsrighty

    you don’t represent the people on this site. go to some leftist site where they will give you the attention your mama never did. bounce bitch.

  • Cull the Leftist Herd

    Barry, you’re already in it with Moochele for pawing all over the Danish PM during Mandy’s funeral. You better turn off the computer and go to bed. I know you don’t like it, but you’re the one who married her, so you gotta deal with it.

    American Fister is a pretty applicable handle though. I gotta give you props on that one.

    • DOJORODA

      Let me correct you, …”You’re the one who married it (or him)…”

  • Sam300

    Paul Ryan got rolled. Or, he just caved. What a wimp. No wonder RINO wimp Mitt RomneyCare choose Paul Ryan as VP. Birds of a RINO feather.

    • Richard Testaccio

      This is just another repube sellout.

  • jpc466

    Change your name to American Fister

    • timsrighty

      I think this cretin just wants attention. what say we stop giving it to him. let him go back to the porn sites

  • steve

    If the general consensus is that America needs a large middle-class to survive, why is it that Democrats do everything in their power to destroy it? The proliferation of single-parent households is the single largest cause of poverty and if the GOP wants to regain power in DC, they need to adopt a platform that strongly promotes two-parent households.
    Add term limits to that platform and we’ll start wining elections again!

  • Deborah Snow

    Betrayed again why am I surprised. Why can’t we find people to stand for there beliefs. The media are never going to like you so get over it and do whats right.

    • Runninwscissors

      actually you do have representatives who stand for their beliefs…they believe that THEY are the best rulers. Almost NONE of our elected officials actually believe in governing according to the principles of The Constitution. They would much rather have a government of men, not one of an “absolute”. And most of the citizenry, would much prefer to be back on the plantation. They want “the man” to “take care of them” They don’t want a land of opportunity, they want a land of equal mediocrity..

  • JPalm

    Cut Dept of Education, Green energy BS, ..
    Cut Military?????????????????
    Almost three quarters of the 2,153 U.S. military fatalities in the 12-year-old Afghanistan war have taken place since Obama was first inaugurated, according to an Associated Press (AP) tally.

  • k33j88

    Immediate increase in spending for a 23 billion savings over a 10 year period. While dusting myself off from falling from the potato truck, I ask, is there something wrong with this picture? 17 trillion deficit and a 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities can’t be all that bad—–could it? Now where did I put that 1st class ticket for the titanic pleasure cruise.

  • Fritz Pfister

    Appears, if passed, now we have details, Ryan
    succeeded at keeping the sequester long term without raising taxes. Ryan’s challenge was/is negotiating between a senate (and president) who have zero desire to
    cut spending or balance budgets, and Republican leadership who refuses to use govt closure as leverage to get more. I’ll give Ryan some slack on this one.

    • finnegan

      Sure, as long as you consider “increased fees” to not be taxes. Which is of course a load of bull. Fees are taxes. Penalties are taxes. Call it what you want. It’s a new tax.

  • GWashington2

    Another Rino covering himself to get re-elected. To think this turd was once considered the “darling” of the GOP. Just like Rubio.

    • Rednecksrule

      He is on my list of Repugs that I don’t care if they lose. McLame, Rubio, this little POS, and my favorite, Lindsey Graham.

      • No One Important

        Ryan has a primary challenger, if I’m not mistaken.So does Boehner.It’s up to the people in those districts to rally around the challengers and get rid of these “bureaucrats” that have been marinating in our tax dollars for too long. . . .They’ve spent too much time behind the “castle walls” and need to be unemployed. . . .throw them out of their ivory towers to live in the real world they’ve created for the rest of America. . . . .Let them come and live in “Obamaworld” for a while. . . . .a dose of reality. . . .

  • No One Important

    How come we hear the state department just paid 1M for a statue? And government employees just went on a junket to a tropical island for some goofy “coral reef” investigation? (Costs spread over 12 budgets) Why is anyone going on a tropical island travel junket?We hear insult after insult every other week how these people just keep spending our money – and say “there’s no where to cut!”. . . .as we find out about this ridiculous waste/fraud/abuse/stupidity on our tax dollar.Is there no one in Washington who understands they need to focus on jobs and downsizing this federal parasite? is there no one there that understands we should start with -0- in each budget and make them justify every pencil/stapler/telephone to get this thing under control?Washington is out of control. None of the sequester cuts should be stopped. It was the first time we ever saw “cuts” to spending. . . and it should continue. 75 duplicative transportation programs and not a single one of them can justify their existence. (GAO report) And yet, we don’t see these being cut. Why are we giving any grants out to anyone? We’re broke. Stop all grants for turtles, and frogs and monkeys. . . .Stop soaking the taxpayers. You’re doing nothing for this nation . . . .

    • Therod

      I know where you probably could have cut or saved 500+ million bucks on a faulty website.

      • No One Important

        And then, we’re paying the same screw ups who couldn’t do it right – to fix their screw up. . . In the private sector, this company would have been fired, and the client would have sued them for their money back. . . .Washington is out of control – and the corruption is now too rampant. . . .Not a single person in Washington understands this federal parasite is killing us. .because they’re all part of the machine now. . . .the bureaucracy. A bureaucracy exists to protect itself. . .the parasite will attempt to harm the “host” if the host attempts to get rid of it or downsize it. (Veterans memorial, children’s cancer treatments, etc.)You saw the dangerous venom and fangs of the federal government during the shut down as it rose up and deliberately tried to hurt the nation . . . . .the parasite has now grown too large – and it happened when we weren’t paying attention. . . .

  • neilcdenver

    According to the Employee Benefit Retirement Institute (EBRI), less than 10% of private-sector employees receive “guaranteed” retirement benefits, a.k.a. Defined Benefits. Meanwhile, 100% of all federal and 68% of all state and local employees receive such lucrative benefits.

    People who believe that civil service employees should be treated “better” than harder working Americans are doing a grave disservice to America.

    Another factor to consider when comparing private-sector employees in the public-sector is the “years of service” that determines their benefits. I have never seen actual statistics. However, it is well known that it is all but impossible for public-service employees to be fired. In effect, virtually every public-service employee is a “lifer”. They can ever transfer “years of service” when changing from one government jurisdiction to another.

    Now more than ever, Americans working in the private-sector must rise up and stop being treated as “second class” citizens.

    • phil berens

      Those guaranteed benefits are turning out to now be quite so guaranteed.

      • neilcdenver

        True for state and local employees. But in the federal sector, they don’t even have a statistic called “Unfunded Pension Liabilities”.

        I’ve requested that the EBRI to gather and report the average “years of service” for public and private sector employees. That’s what really counts in terms of future liabilities.

        If we don’t address this burden on taxpayers, I’m afraid that it will eventually be played out in the streets, as has happened in Europe.

        Two ways to address the “years of service” problem are 1) restrict government hiring to individuals with substantial private-sector experience, or better still, 2) change the retirement system to what Americans receive: Defined Contribution retirement programs.

    • No One Important

      Exactly. . . .they set themselves up on our tax dollars, with benefits for life. . . . .and support the “candidate” that will give that to them.The parasite has now grown too large for the host to handle, and the parasite deliberately tries to harm the host if you dare to curtail it.Just look at how Obama and the government behaved during the shut down. Look at what Obama kept threatening with the sequester cuts.And now the republicans are desperate to undo the best thing that has happened to Washington in years.Washington has gone off the rails. . . .

    • MikeG

      That’s what we’ve all heard, but it’s not entirely true. What you say is true of Title 5 employees. In the scientific and technical fields, many employees are Title 42. They get the government benefits, but can be terminated at will, and their appointments must be renewed periodically. And then there are the contractors, and many Federal workers you encounter are actually in this category. They have a government badge and do government work, but on paper they work for the contracting company and not the government. They get whatever benefits their companies offer. In the non-union states, they can all be fired at will. And even in the union-shop states, the professional level employees typically are non-union and can be fired at will.

      • No One Important

        That’s not entirely true. Then how come it took so long to get rid of lois Lerner?Why is it that we heard how “hard” it is to fire someone? How about the dirtbag in the bathtub on the government’s dime and was given bonuses? And it took forever to get rid of him also. . . .There is an entire pantheon of “Federal union workers” and they are protected by a labyrinth of rules. There are 2,748,978 civilian federal employees in the United States as of January 2009. This is according to the Federal Employment Statistics published by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. Employees with security agencies (CIA, NSA, etc) as well as the National Imagery and Mapping Agency are not included in this number. 97.6% of civilian federal employees work in the executive branch of government.Civil service protections are a nitemare and stop us from getting rid of the sloth workers, the ridiculous corrupt people like Lois Lerner and others. . . .

  • Dr. Strangelove

    Maybe it’s just me this morning but after 5 minutes all I heard was blah, blah blah. Maybe I need another cup of coffee. I have to get XM in the new truck, I’m missing me some Levin. Unlike Rush, he’s difficult to find on the AM.

  • Chuck S

    I agree with Mark how about more SPENDING CUTS !!! the only thing they cut was services to the POOR you know the Middle class, the ones that President LIAR says he is trying to help !! Americans wake up 2014 elections kick all the DEM-O-CRAPS to the curb along with all the DEM-LA-CANS oh these are members from the GOP who act and vote just like dem-o-craps !!!!

  • Rednecksrule

    I count this little POS support of amnesty his most heinous actions. Little Terd Ryan is trying to figure a way to push amnesty on the American tax payer. He can truly shove his little charts about the burgeoning federal deficits into the future once he passes amnesty. What in the hell do you think importing millions of poor immigrants and their chain immigrated families is going to do? Oh he is going to reform entitlements? BULL $%^ he is.. Once you chain migrate all the poor relatives from around the world… the Leftist politiicians will have the voting block of their dreams…

  • Gary Causer

    About the only cut was to the VA retirement benefits, keep voting for him….Makes a rich man proud!!!!

    Molon Labe…

  • MoreFreedom2

    From http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/house-senate-negotiators-reach-budget-deal/2013/12/10/e7ee1aaa-61eb-11e3-94ad-004fefa61ee6_story.html

    “For fiscal 2015, spending would increase only slightly, to $1.014 trillion, for a total of $63 billion in sequester replacement.”

    This is a 6% INCREASE in spending NEXT YEAR. So called savings are just promises of reduced spending in the future.

    Ryan and most of the GOP show their proclivity to spend our money, rather than letting the productive keep the fruits of their labor. They aren’t fiscal conservatives.

    Ryan, the GOP, and the statist media are all calling this a cut, when it isn’t. It’s an INCREASE, with promises to cut spending later. Which is a LIE because they’ll “fix” it like they are trying to “fix” the sequester by getting rid of it.

    Ryan and the RINOs need to be voted out. And it’s too bad, because Ryan is a good communicator, it’s too bad he communicates sophistry to steal from us.

    • No One Important

      Exactly. It’s a “cut” in the rate of growth. Not a spending cut.The sequester was the first true cut to spending – and there they are – everyone trying to undo the best thing that ever happened to Washington.It’s just that Washington doesn’t want the cuts. . . so the royalty in Washington is screaming and crying wanting their money. . . .And no one in Washington is thinking about the taxpayers.The parasite continues to grow. . . .and ignore those they’re stepping on. . . .the desperation in the nation as people barely hanging on working 2 jobs. . . and can’t find full time employment. . . .And this dufus Ryan wants to legalize 11+ million illegal immigrants in this nation. . . . .Washington has gone completely off the rails. . . .

      • MoreFreedom2

        No, it’s not a cut in the rate of growth, it’s an INCREASE to planned spending. It undoes the cuts the sequester brought, by INCREASING spending over what is currently planned in 2014, with promises of cuts in future years that won’t occur (per the history of such promises).

        Both parties have lied to the public using DC budgeting, claiming cuts to the budget (which are really reductions to planned increases) while the budget is really increasing.

        Today, Ryan is using the lie the Democrats usually make (we’ll cut in the future). There’s nothing preventing future Congresses from ignoring promises made by politicians in the current Congress.

        One should simply look at this years spending, and compare it to the planned spending next year. And from that vantage point, you’ll see an INCREASE in spending of 6%, far faster growth than the private sector which is shrinking in comparison.

  • bruce b

    Mickey Mouse,that’s Mark Levin.

  • Dan_Lef

    Mark Levin is one of the best talk show hosts around and probably THE most intelligent one too.

    • In_the_OC

      Levin is extraordinary at articulating the Conservative viewpoint, complete with Constitutional expertise far beyond anything the current president could ever understand, much less appreciate or articulate in his wildest dreams.

      Additionally, we must include Dennis Prager and Hugh Hewitt, great Conservative communicators, as well.

      • No One Important

        I disagree with Levin on one thing. Term limits. I don’t want term limits. I want recall rights.Term limits makes someone unaccountable to the voters – recall rights increases accountability.How many times have we heard “the president is free to pursue his agenda”. . . .(not just Obama). . . . .you’ve got 535 narcissists in Washington. Do you want 1/3 of them running around unaccountable at any given time? That’s insane. Recall rights is what you want – not term limits.It’s an elegant solution to a horrendous problem. and it takes the money out of the equation. Who will lavish money on someone to get elected only to have them face a recall election 2 years later (senator). The senators can’t play the “voters will forget” game either. . .

        • http://www.landoverbaptist.org/ Team Red vs. Team Blue

          Excellent idea. If only.

          • No One Important

            Yea, I know. . ..”if only. . .”Recalls work. We saw it in Colorado.Illinois saw a “lame duck” session ram through a 67% tax increase.Now imagine what would happen with a bunch of “lame ducks” running around in congress?Besides, I don’t want some arbitrary deadline telling me I can’t vote for my guy/gal. . . .what if I someday get lucky enough to have a Ted Cruz? (Not likely in Illinois). . .I don’t want some hack pushing a law saying I can’t re elect him. . . .that’s my call, not the federal government’s call. . . .

  • EEDDGGY1776

    Ryan is now officially part of the Democrat Party.

  • $18466205

    basically all one giant, horrible party

  • EEDDGGY1776

    Ryan belongs in NASCAR. He is great at turning LEFT.

  • thunderclapnewman

    Ryan, like most Republicans is afraid of the democrats and the media. The day a Republican starts a conversation with a dem or media type by calling them liars s the day they make progress.. They are forever spinning their wheels in fear of upsetting Loudon County VA.

    • Confucius

      The government-media complex must be destroyed!

  • http://www.TheJoyOfBeingaControlFreak.com/ Joyful LaRue

    Thought Ryan was tough enough to stand his ground . . . but alas, just another go-along-to-get-along guy. Just one of hundred in Congress who have made the mess we’ll all have to clean up one of these days.
    Thx, boys.

    • No One Important

      Don’t forget – Ryan is also pushing Amnesty for 11+ million illegal people, at a time when 94 million Americans are desperate for jobs. . . .There’s no explaining Ryan’s special kind of stupid.He’s spent too much time in Washington, lavishing our money on himself and their cronies. . . .Americans are desperate for jobs. . . .and all he can think to do is undo the sequester cuts?That’s his budget answer?More weight on the backs of the taxpayers? Jeezuz. . . .they’ve lost their minds up there in Washington.

  • No One Important

    So we’re back to growing the spending again – and calling a reduction to the rate of growth a “cut”. . . . .Real nice Ryan. . . .Republicans, desperate to undo the best thing that ever happened to Washington, an actual cut to spending. . . . .Washington has now gone “broken arrow”. . . it’s off the rails.The “royalty” in Washington spending lavishly on themselves, on their buddies at the expense of the taxpayers in the nation.Republicans whining about wanting the “cuts” undone. . . . .Ryan has a primary challenger I believe. The people in his district need to rally around his challenger and get Ryan booted . . . .same for Boehner. He has a primary challenge also. . . . .get out there and get rid of these RINOs. . .they’ve spent too much time marinating in our tax money, living behind the castle walls. . . .not seeing what they’re doing to the entire nation.it’s time to “sack the castle” by bumping RINOs off the ballots and getting real conservatives sent to Washington. . . .Time to send a message – we’re not going to tolerate you anymore.

  • EEDDGGY1776

    Apparently Ryan is trying to give Boehner a run for the money as the most outrageous Republican Traitor.
    These politicians don’t understand America nor care about its future. They constantly bow to the State Run MSM.

  • $56488327

    Statist creeps will be statist creeps.

  • Rednecksrule

    This budget deal like Little Terd Ryan’s support of illegal immigration is just the usual crony capitalism in DC. I am sure like their support of importing masses of illegals, corporations did not want the sequester. Ryan just does what they want. But you the middle class taxpayer here gets to pay the cost of these policies… you get to pay the true cost of subsidizing corporations immigrant workforce and when those deficits destroy the economy in the future… who will suffer… Not Little Terd Ryan and his crony corporations…

  • Wild_Bird

    This budget deal is a RAW DEAL for the United States of America, PERIOD.

  • Name

    23 billion over ten years in ‘cuts’ (that will never take place); but 65 billion new spending now, (that will be borrowed on the backs of future generations).

    As a percentage of what we spend (waste), the amount of money involved here, is so small, a homeless bum wouldn’t bend down to pick it up if they saw it lying on the sidewalk.

    • No One Important

      As other shows said . . . .this is a rounding error on a rounding error. . . . .It’s a joke.the big spending is back in Washington. . . .And Ryan is going to help undo it. . . .they’ve gone off the rails. . .it’s time for the voters to send a very loud message in the primaries – vote for their republican challengers and get rid of these guys. . . .

      • sako204

        ….and let’s begin by ousting Mitch McConnell. As sure as the sun rises in the East, McConnell will make this deal much worse.

  • McHebrew

    Once again, defeat is snatched from the jaws of victory.
    Maybe Ryan will get a cool ride on Air Force One for his hard work !

  • El_Sluggo

    Well, it’s beginning to look like the powerful vs the people. Maybe we should remind them all of who’s boss next November, eh?

  • http://crev.info/ bondmen

    Good solid conservatives and Tea Party types will stop voting for Republicans if they continue to act like Democrats lite and then only progressive collectivists and national socialists will inhabit high offices across America and where do you think that’ll lead? We’ve got to have principled small government politicians who can stand tall in the face of overwhelming odds and do what’s right!

  • 1DICK

    It is one giant game and we are always the losers, EVERY F@#King TIME! Mark is all over it and good for him for calling a spade a spade, rarely do these DC types get real questions about the BS plans, that seems to be nothing more than a Ponzi scheme in a suit.

  • timsrighty

    Budget deal is right. these mediocre, low caliber, unqualified, arrogant, lying dirtbags don’t have to be concerned about a budget. A budget deal is codeword for “Let’s keep screwing the people.” when has the current govt followed a budget? this is complete insanity. how dare they speak to us like we’re a bunch of public schoolchildren. Deals, deals, deals. I gotta a deal for ya…the constitution b-itch.

  • Jebediah_sprot

    You guys still think there are democrats and republicans with hugely differing ways of governance. They are all the same. They answer to the same overlords. They just keep us sheep divided by introducing pettiness using their media lapdogs.

    • yukon57

      Kooby, right on the $$! Rome is burning and we are all sitting on the sidelines watching reality TV while these professional Politician enrich themselves! God help us.

  • TheRealist II

    Good to hear the citizens grumble , and if they dont like what they hear then stop giving everyone so much ammunition to do so!

    • timsrighty

      the gov is giving us plenty of ammo dude. well actually their trying to take it away. maybe you get my drift.

  • Thinkaboutit

    The entire dike system is being pounded by a sunami of crazy spending and will soon be over-topped, and Ryan is proud of the fact that he has stuck his pinky finger in one small crack. Anyone see a problem with this approach? To call this BS nibbling around the edges is too charitable. We could preserve (even increase) the effectiveness of our military (one of the few powers alotted to the federal government by the Framers of the Constitution) by dismantling the bloated federal bureacracy — eliminate the DOE, Interior Dept, HHS, EPA, Commerce Dept, foreign aid, etc. etc. — just look to the Consititution and see which programs are clear overreach by the Federal government compared to the Framers’ original intent. The answer is in the Constitution — the sooner we get back to it the better.

    • heebie123

      Congressman Ryan said one thing that is the crux of the argument. “Elections have consequences.” If Ryan had not compromised and we wound up shutting down the government again, Obamacare or no Obamacare, the R’s would lose big time in 2014 and 2016. Political junkies like the people who post here know the deal, but the average American lives on headlines and platitudes. The rest of the time they are trying to make a living and watching reality TV. Staying home and not voting is not the answer. We MUST win elections or we are doomed.

      • dixie68

        If we are to ever have any leverage, we must turn out on election day in mind boggling numbers. If every conservative went to the polls and voted republican, just think of the clout we would have. The republicans in office would then be trying to pander to us instead of illegals. Then, and only then will we be able to control spending. Remember, staying at home on election day is a vote for the one you dislike the most.

        • heebie123

          Yes, some agreement! Gives me hope.

      • gotroy22

        We won elections in 2000 ands 2004 and Bush and the Republicans Congress spent like crazy. You are supporting the status quo by supporting the traitor Ryan. We were told in August 2011 to forget the Tea Party principle of living within our means and support the Sequester and now the Sequester is dead!

        • heebie123

          You are correct about the spending. I do think though now, with all that has happened, they won’t make that mistake again. As a matter of fact, if we get R’s in and it will be a struggle, they will do the right thing (at least I hope). BTW, I heard Ryan and the sequester is not dead, it just gives money back to the military, which is a good thing.

  • 31068

    Mark called it exactly what it is: ” Mickey Mouse”. Once again, the GOP has caved.

    • gotroy22

      I loved how he shamed Ryan for being part of the Bush Era Republican Congress that spent like drunk sailors.

  • timsrighty

    I balanced my checkbook last night. it took me all of ten minutes. and I actually have a surplus. could the govt take ten months to give us a friggin’ surplus. a year, two years? I know, I’m crazy.

    • No One Important

      An economic columnist wrote:If every department cut 1% each year, for 10 years, we’d balance.That’s it. 1%.It’s such a small amount, and yet, it might as well be as elusive as the fountain of youth. . . . .

  • John Howard

    Two words: Constitutional Convention

    • No One Important

      Actually – it’s called an Article V convention. There was only 1 “constitutional convention” . . and that gave us what we have now.An Article V convention is a convention to amend the constitution.We need to repeal the 17th (direct election of Senators). . .because the minute we disconnected the states from those who had a vested interest in representing the states, we lost control of the federal government and the states were immediately undermined.We need to put in “recall rights”. . . the right for a state to recall their federally elected officials.We need to establish “no pay/benefits” after service is finished. No pensions, no benefits, no health insurance, nothing. We need to establish “pay levels” – tied to the “real” unemployment rate. For every 1% over what is considered 0% unemployment (that’s what? 4.5%?). . .they lose 10% of their pay. It’s “performance” pay. No one should be getting raises or anything with this huge level of unemployment. Make them have skin in the game.We need to establish 0.00 budgeting. Every year – start at zero, and every department justify every paperclip/stapler/telephone you have. . .no more “baseline” budgeting.We need to repeal and remand all “regulations” to the congress for approval. No regulatory agency will have any power into implement new rules/nor change any rules. Ever.No spending bill will ever be attached to another spending bill. Every expenditure must stand on its own – or not be funded.All pay and raises for reps and senators will be paid by their voters in the district/state. If someone wants a raise – ask your voters for it – they have to pay it.There will be no “pork” spending. A state that wants something in their state, you will take a loan from the government, to be paid back by only those voters in the state. Voters across the nation shouldn’t pay for ridiculous “pork” spending in some state.They will pay all travel expenses from their own salaries. There won’t be any taxpayer funded travel/limos/cars.All staff will be paid from your salary also. (Meaning they have to read their own bills – no more “legislative gobbledygook”. . . .)There are bunches of things that need to be laid out in an Article V convention. Good luck. Register with some of the groups – maybe they can help get the word out. . . .

      • getuclu4u

        Add to it the removal of all payroll taxes. Have all individuals pay by electronic draft that they can cancel.

        • No One Important

          Do you mean income taxes? I’d go for that.You mean make everyone cut the check themselves? Meaning – actually get the money and then have to give it back?The payroll taxes specifically fund SS and medicare – these are deferred benefits for the taxpayer. I’d prefer those are auto deducted into the system. But income taxes etc? Definitely. . . .I’d go for that. . .

          • getuclu4u

            SS is a Ponzi scheme. Do the math. If you took the same $ deducted (leave the employer match for everyone else’s benefit) and if you bought your own disability policy, and invested the rest in say part healthcare reimbursement account and the other your own IRA, you’d have thousands of extra dollars for healthcare and retirement and that you can pass on to your kids/grandkids or start your own business. Current system gives the younger worker negative returns.

            • No One Important

              I understand what you’re saying – however, we have to keep the promise to current and near retirement people. . . .It definitely needs to be revamped, but you still need to fund it now. . . .Our problem is, the “Ponzi” scheme would be fixed if we had more people working.We don’t have a retiree problem, we have an economic problem. . .

  • Michael J Guss

    Why didn’t Ryan just say: ” My fellow Americans that care about fiscal responsibility and deficits, the Republicans are committed to reduce taxing and spending, but we do not have the power or the votes, the Democrats do. If we try to leverage what little power we have and fail to approve old past budgets, the liberal media alleges we are to blame for shutting down government. I cut the best dirty deal I could with the Democrats who, as always are fighting for more spending, more taxes and bigger government. We can cut spending and deficits, but not with these Democrats in power. The excessive spending in this deal is all Democrat. Republicans look forward to addressing these issues during the 2014 election cycle”

    • seanster5977

      I wish you had been giving the speech. Right on the point.

    • dixie68

      If Ryan could possibly be honest enough to say that, he would earn respect, but I don’t think he is that honest. After all, isn’t he pushing for amnesty for the illegals, which will be the death of our country?

      • gotroy22

        Yes Ryan is a slimy traitor to the Tea Party.

    • heebie123

      Beautiful!

      • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

        He can’t say it because he doesn’t believe it.

  • sako204

    So the country’s fiscal house is burning to the ground, but Congress has managed to save the wooden mailbox post. Good grief! Let’s get the Article V Convention underway as soon as possible.

  • Thomas J. Coyne

    We are at war! We are losing! The enemy is within. SOLUTION: Do not vote for any person who has been in office for more than 10 years. Understand this fact: Republicans (R) and Democrats (D) have enshrined themselves as our RULING CLASS. R + D = continued trouble for honest citizens. Each elected member of R + D cares ONLY about getting reelected. Do not allow it to happen. The future of our once-great nation is at stake.

    Respectfully,
    ThomasJosephCoyne.com

    • timsrighty

      nice try politician. we’re not fools here.

  • Tomtom28

    Sick to death of this Congress and Obozo.

  • Mike

    Relatives of mine no longer tell me I’m wasting my vote when I vote Libertarian. With the exception of Ron Paul, I’ve done so since Ross Perot.

    • eyespeye

      A better idea to get the Libertarian candidate to run as a Republican, because 40% will always vote Dem and 40% Repub.

      • Mike

        That really describes Ron Paul. Need more like him. Rule of thumb: The more the mainstream media attacks or ignores a candidate, that’s the person you should consider voting for!

        • gails

          and if you haven’t done enough homework, the most unfamiliar name on the ballot ;)

        • No One Important

          Ron Paul is an old man who is a hypocrite.He just lived for calling people names and laughing at his jokes like beavis.All he wants to do is “just defend our borders”. . . .but was against something passive like a fence to . . .tada!. . .defend our borders.He whined about government spending, then turned around and justifies “his” ear marks. Hello? Hypocrite anyone?Then, Mr. “Personal Responsibility” Ron Paul wouldn’t take personal responsibility for his racists hate filled newsletters. . . .even though he was editor and it had his name on them. . . .Ron Paul is a dooshb-ag – always has been. He doesn’t even follow the dog vomit he spews to his cult followers and this cult followers would never admit what a whackjob hypocrite he was.Rand Paul isn’t far off the “kook” road from his father, either. He’s just better at hiding his “kook” factor. . . .he’s slipped a couple of times, but he readily realizes the mistake and corrects it.

          • Mike

            They didn’t teach you anything about the Constitution in the government school system did they? You watch too much TV.

            • No One Important

              A non substantive response. Figures.It’s typical of what I get from the cult followers of Ron Paul.Never willing to look at what a hypocrite the guy is.There’s a reason his support never rises above 9% nationally and is mostly college kids.Most of us graduate, and then grow up. We realize what a kook the guy is.Of course, for the cult followers, it’s easier to claim it’s a “conspiracy” against him rather than realize how the nation really saw him.The caucuses that he was supposed to dominate? Nada. Nothing. Even his own campaign spokesman said “we don’t understand what happened.”What happened is – the cult spends too much time in their own echo chamber believing their own hype, never realizing just what a dingdong the nation thinks Ron Paul is.Mind yourself, Rand Paul is an “open borders” guy too. . . . .’nuther reality check his cult hasn’t reconciled with. . . .

              • Mike

                Why don’t you check his voting record, instead of parroting what you hear from the TV talking heads? Oh yeah, would take effort.

                • No One Important

                  Dewd, I have.You apparently don’t want to see Ron Paul’s own debate performance where he said “fences can also be used to keep people in” as a way to deflect whether he supported the fence. (which he doesn’t.)My gawd pal. . . your nonsense is just ridiculous.You’re up against an “informed” person here. . not someone who parrots what I’ve heard. . . .I watched him, his interviews. . .all of it.It is you who is denying reality. And it’s typical of a Ron Paul supporter. . .this isn’t my first rodeo with one of you. . . .your responses are typical denial of fact.

          • timsrighty

            he ain’t that old.

      • Liberals Are Morons

        It is the only way for a libertarian-minded candidate to win.

        Libertarians are often viewed as kooks and it is unfortunate that many are. They’re as kooky as liberals on a few issues. Uneducated, believe in things that are absolutely not true, and willing to cause serious damage to foreign policy and fiscal issues in the name of their stupid politics. Libertarians with realistic views are great and the best candidates IMO, but there also are conspiracy theorists among those clowns.

        • No One Important

          Yep – libertarians that run separately are egotists.They have some seriously deluded ideas about what “defense” means, and seriously whacked policy positions. They’re never thought out. . .just pabulum for the faithful. . . .but when pressed for “what if this” or “what do you do then?” . . . they never have an answer. . . .One can say they’re “idealists”. . but that would be kind.Press any single supporter of a libertarian, or like a Ron Paul supporter – out immediately comes “he wants to legalize drugs, man! That’s so righteous!”It’s the single thing that seems to drive almost all of them – the hippy-dippy kind of garbage. . . .gimme my dope man. . . .and leave me alone.And that is the most frightening and selfish part of all libertarian candidates and supporters. . .the stupid “single issue” that drives them. . . legalizing drugs.and not a single moron out there can answer the question – and what happens when this society claims you caused their addiction and now have to support them. . . .what do you do then?What about the Dr with the Hippocratic oath to “do no harm” for the nonstop over doses that will come in then? Who will have to pay for that?all I ever get is crickets chirping from these “libertarians”. . .

          • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

            Typical statist. “You can’t legalize drugs because I have to pay for your healthcare.”

            Why? Because the government makes you, that’s why.

        • danl62

          You made a broad statement and said many libertarians are cooks. Give me some documented examples and we can hash it out. I think most of them make sense but let’s see what you can come up with..

          • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

            Libertarians sound like kooks to those indoctrinated to statism.

          • No One Important

            Give me some documented examples Ron Paul.

            • danl62

              Well that is not documented that is just talk. Where is he a kook? Is it his statement that we should bring our troops home?. His statement that government should not run our lives? His statement that we should audit the Fed? His statement that our government should live within its means? His statement that our involvement in the Middle East is creating more terrorists? So, I gave you some examples(just a few) now you give me something that says he is a kook. Not rhetoric but things that he has said or done that can be backed up. Not just hate filled accusations. Let’s talk like adults. Can you do that?

              • No One Important

                His own words – justifying his hypocrisy on ear marks.His own words Mr. “Personal Responsibility” refuses to take responsibility for his racist and anti Semitic hate filled news letters.His ridiculous position on not supporting the fence. (While whining about all the money we spend should only be spent on defending the border.)I’ve already given you examples. . . .that were replied to farther down the string.Go read them.he’s a crackpot. Always has been. And his cult followers refuse to see what a hypocrite he is. . . .

                • danl62

                  Well his own words. I looked up his own words on racism and his newsletter. He says he did not write those words. Do I believe him or you? You are certainly biased so you are suspect. I guess we never know.

                  So if they build a 20 foot border fence do you think the illegals will bring in a 22 foot ladder? The fence will probably not work. There must be better ways.

                  As far as a cult? I guess we could call most major political figures cult leaders. Here is one of the definitions of a cult:

                  Idolization of somebody or something: an extreme or excessive admiration for a person, philosophy of life, or activity.
                  If that is true then Obama followers are a classic definition. Much more so than Ron Paul. There were Romney supporters that would have gone to the ends of the earth for him Are they cult followers? How about Marc Rubio? Ted Cruz? Hillary Clinton? Now Hillary has much more baggage than Ron Paul but lots of people support her religiously. So who is a cult leader? Just those you disagree with?

                • No One Important

                  He says he did not write those words.Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. . . .Mr. “Personal Responsibility” doesn’t take personal responsibility for his own newsletter. . . uh huh. . . .Man you are a typical cult follower. . . .So if they build a 20 foot border fence do you think the illegals will bring in a 22 foot ladder? Typical redirection. . .go read his interview with Chris Wallace and with Krauthammer. . . he says he doesn’t want anything blocking border movement. . . Are you seriously this obtuse? or do you practice?Look, you’re a typical cult follower, immune to facts and proof against your “view” of who that whackjob really is.You can’t debate with a cult follower who can’t accept facts. Peace. Out.

                • danl62

                  Typical name calling and bomb throwing. Now you have even less credibility since you started the attacks. Can’t you libs ever debate without attacking the other. Typical Saul Alinsky tactics. Smear, isolate and attack. You are pathetic. A figure to be pitied.

      • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

        Only 40% of the population even bothers to vote! Why? Could it be they don’t support either big-government party?

        • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgA2rUAY-o Booker

          You’d be surprised, but a lot of folks are just trying to avoid jury duty. Kinda silly though.

          • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

            We have yet to see what effect a candidate would have who effectively delivers the message;

            “I believe in every American’s ability to make their own decisions, and be responsible for the outcome of those decisions.”

    • Liberals Are Morons

      Your relatives are as stupid as you are. If your libertarian candidate didn’t get elected and came in 3rd place with 4% of the vote… yeah, you wasted your vote.

      • Mike

        You’re calling ME stupid, while at the same time reading stories like this based on YOUR actions? You crack me up.

      • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

        If you keep voting for craptastic Republicans to prevent craptastic Democrats from winning, you deserve your police state.

      • danl62

        Well, if you voted Republican and Mitt Romney lost…yeah well you wasted your vote. You don’t make sense because if you voted for Romney or anyone who did not get elected did you waste your vote?

        • No One Important

          He voted for someone who stood a chance to win. . . .you might want to try some higher critical thinking there.Romney didn’t lose by much. . . .and it was the “perot” voters that stayed home. The blue collar conservatives. . . . .Romney wasn’t that bad. . . .he just had terrible baggage and wasn’t always the smoothest. . .but we’d be in a full throated recovery right now if he had won. . . .

        • heebie123

          Wasted? I know it would have been awful having a kind, generous, intelligent, religious family man with a proven record of economic success as the leader of this country. Whew, saved by a hair on that one.

    • timsrighty

      yeah, I voted for perot too. I say as I blush. fool me once shame on you…fool me twice shame me. never again. open the door for socialism if you like a boot on your neck

      • Mike

        Go back and research NAFTA and the what party’s voted accordingly. Maybe that will enlighten you.

        • timsrighty

          i’ll check it out. then I’ll see if I trust your snobbish self.

      • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

        When you have a choice between Socialist (R) and Socialist (D), your best bet is to vote for Perot.

    • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

      Same here.

  • eyespeye

    I think this is a good idea – minor tinkering to get a budget passed, have the 5 minutes of smiles and photo-ops, then get back to talking about Obamacare. Good political move on Ryan’s part.

    • No One Important

      No, bad move. Undoing the only good thing that’s happened in Washington in a long time. A true cut to spending. (minor at that)And here we are, back to big spending again.It’s a bogus bad deal for the taxpayers out here. No one was talking about Ryan and Murray. . . .or any grand anything.And don’t forget, Ryan wants amnesty, too.Ryan just hosed every republican that ever supported him. . . .

    • gotroy22

      No he capitulated to the Democrats, refused to limit the out of control spending and wants to get back to bringing in 30 million Undocumented Democrats. Ryan is a traitor.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgA2rUAY-o Booker

      To be honest with you, (I say this as an Independent) libertarians will not get any clout unless they win a governorship or some seats in a state assembly. Although I’m not a libertarian, I do understand the frustration.

  • hihellothere

    BOHICA

    • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

      ATTT?

  • Mark Davies

    Just another reason for Term Limits….

    • No One Important

      Nope. Not term limits. Recall rights. Term limits makes them unaccountable. Think of how many times you’ve heard “now the president is free to pursue his agenda” (not just Obama). You have 535 narcissists up there. Do you want 1/3 of them running around unaccountable at any time? That’s insane.Recall rights increases voter accountability. it also neutralizes the “money” advantage. If you anger your voters – there is immediate repercussions and no amount of money will help you. And you’ll spend your “war chest” fighting a recall election. Senators can’t play “the voters will forget” game, either.Besides, if I’m ever lucky enough to get a Ted Cruz to represent me? It’s not your call to tell me I can’t re elect him. it’s my choice, as a voter in my state. Not yours.Recall rights. That’s what you want. Not term limits.

      • gotroy22

        Yes, term liits are in effect in California and look what a messs it is.

        • No One Important

          States need “recall rights”. . .so these people can’t play “the voter will forget” game (Senators).Reps are up every 2 years so it’s a moot point. . .but senators?You bet – rip them out of their seats.Ben Nelson was scared because there was a big push to Amend Nebraska’s state constitution to allow for recalls, and it was specifically aimed at him. He did some internal polls, and realized he wasn’t going to win next round anyway. . .so opted to “retire” with 3 mil in his war chest. . .now he’s a lobbyist on behalf of the HC law he helped ram through . . .and is advocating now. (Disgusting)Nebraska was in a full tilt push to get it amended. It was highly popular because of what he did. . .the furor died down when he “retired”. . . .

      • Mark Davies

        The ‘recall” has worked so well, my point is many are there sooooooo long they see the never ending money pit offered to them, if we limited their federal time we limit their damage, I would also make it so none of them can work for any lobbying firms for at least 5 years, the elected non-compete clause they must accept. IF you want to destroy your own city, town, state you can have your rep/senator back just leave the rest of us alone…

        • No One Important

          Nope. I’d never go for term limits. Never.I’d fight you tooth and nail against it. . . .It’s not your call to make who I can and can’t elect.Do it yourself in your own state if you want. . .but it’s not up to you to damage me and my representatives that I may like.That’s the funniest thing about this.States can amend their own constitutions to allow for recalls of their federally elected officials.Ben Nelson was facing that when he decided to “retire.” (Cornhusker kickback.)You can amend for recall rights in your own state – and your “federal” people wouldn’t have jack squat to say about it.

          • Mark Davies

            we have set the precedent by allowing only the President to have 2 terms, we should follow with the rest of them…

      • Mike

        Recall rights have helped us in Colorado get rid of 2 (now 3) Socialist Democrat gun control people :)

        • No One Important

          That is so awesome what Colorado did. . . . .amazing.They need to do it again. . .rip more out. . . .

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgA2rUAY-o Booker

        They should put limitations on it though. We don’t want perpetual elections. They do cost money, you know — depending on the district and the state.

        I like your idea about recall rights, but at the same time I believe in term limits. We no longer have representatives that have self-restraint. Might as well have it in law. The House is supposed to be for the people, not for someone who says, “I’m the only one who can do this job.”

        That spirit that drives this sentiment above is the same that drives the entitlement spirit that is crushing this country.

        • No One Important

          They should put limitations on it though. We don’t want perpetual elections. They do cost money, you know — depending on the district and the state.There would be. Most recalls require that you gather signatures to equal X% of the turnout in previous election of that office.If it was a high turn out – your bar is going to be set very, very high.There are mechanisms in place.Colorado is a great example. . .and so is Wisconsin. . . .Recalls work.Term limits doesn’t. We have repeated examples of how term limits just screws voters.Term limits is espoused by people who don’t truly understand what they’re talking about. (Sorry) You’ve never experienced the behavior of unaccountable people. . . .and those that espouse term limits ignore the success of both Colorado and Wisconsin.It’s a concept whose time has come. And as I said – it’s not your call to make to tell me I can’t re elect someone I like. That’s my choice, not yours. Nor some arbitrary number. . . .

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgA2rUAY-o Booker

            Well, I’m just going to respectfully disagree.

            You’ve never experienced the behavior of unaccountable people… I live in a blue state. Trust me.

            • No One Important

              I live in a blue state. Trust me.So do I. And “unaccountable” lame duck politicians rammed through a 67% income tax increase in Illinois.Believe me. . I’ll fight you tooth and nail against term limits. . .and the simple argument would be. . .”it’s none of your business if I want to keep my elected official”. . . .it’s my call, not yours.However, recall rights can be your call, and can be done in the states right now if you amend your state constitution. . . .and the federal officials wouldn’t have jack squat to say about it.

              • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgA2rUAY-o Booker

                So what you are saying is that the State Constitution can be amended so that a House Rep/Senator (federal) can be recalled? That sounds interesting considering that States have wide policing powers.

                But do you think that such laws will ever be challenged in federal courts since they were crafted by the individual states?

                • No One Important

                  Challenged? Nope. there was an appeals court that said a “recall” movement against Menendez could move forward in NJ. . .Menendez took the position they couldn’t remove him, only fellow “senators” could expel him. . . . .the court averred and said the recall suit could go forward. I think it was dropped because they ran out of money. . . .Nebraska was running head long fast toward amendment. . .aimed at recalling Nelson. Nothing was going to stop that. . except Nelson announced retirement.

  • ReallyReadyforJoe

    You could erase the entire budget, except for military and entitlements and STILL have huge operating issues. Entitlements are strangling this country, and those people in Washington do not have what it takes to dismantle them. Phase them out. Paul Ryan is just as gutless as the rest of the Professional Republicans.

    • heebie123

      How?

      • ReallyReadyforJoe

        They comprise nearly 45% of the budget, and all of those programs are still operating under deficits. Medicare and Social Security are broke, and we have made several attempts to ‘fix’ them by raising the tax on them. It corrects the problem temporarily…….until the next crisis. They need to be phased out.

        • heebie123

          Burt, I was referring not to the fix (of course there are plenty of answers and they are not that complicated) my asking “how” was referring to the process of fixing. Democrats WON’T do it. Again, we need to win elections, and then we can do the fixes. How also refers to winning elections. How do we win elections when the Press won’t tell the truth and Americans are too tired and distracted to care?

          • ReallyReadyforJoe

            No kidding. I am always reminded of how insidious the left is, by focusing on what BENEFITS that people receive from social programs. Of COURSE someone benefits from a program. And THAT is exactly why the President and the rest of the Left want to keep focused on handouts: ‘Don’t take away my ENTITLEMENT. I do not care if it is unsustainable, and I will vote for whomever will promise to keep them for me’. That simple premise has driven this fiscal disaster.

            • heebie123

              Yes it has.

        • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

          90% of federal spending could be cut, and we’d still have a massive unconstitutional federal government.

    • gotroy22

      Paul Ryan is a traitor who wants to “eliminate the distraction” of living within our means so he can bring in 30 million Undocumented Democrats

    • Liberals Are Morons

      The media beat them over the head with shutting down the government and the republicans were unable to get out there and make the case for it…

      They certainly are cowards but the media and democrats are ultimately the ones doing the damage. There just is nobody around willing to fix it. Eventually we’ll go broke and people that were once better off will be knocked down to the level of everyone else and crime will spiral out of control.

      • ReallyReadyforJoe

        Exactly. The same problems with Detroit exist within the U.S. budget. No one wants to deal with the pain of balancing the budget and eradicating the debt, because a LOT of pain would be involved. Every year that passes, we get more promises to the recipient class……and the hole gets deeper. What Washington will continue to do is offer the benefits and send out the checks until the checks no longer clear and the entire system is broken……just like Detroit and just like Greece. They will then throw their hands in the air and say, ‘We did the best we could’.

      • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

        Looking back over the last 100 years, Republicans have been derelict in their duty to oppose and undo the reckless spending, corruption, and graft of the Democrats. Never once has spending been truly cut.

  • stopthemorons

    Us folks don’t stand a chance. The crooks in DC have a firm hand on ruining our country.

    • http://texnat.org/ Texas Chris

      It won’t be long now.

    • Stan in Texas

      10% cut across the board every year until the budget is balanced.
      About 4-5 years will solve the problem. If government workers lose their jobs, fine. I don’t give a rat’s @ss.

      • stopthemorons

        Good point – however, the out years never produce the savings/debt reduction we are promised. However, the expenditures that take place with that proverbial savings in the sky in the out years previously mentioned just don’t happen. Listen to the tape of Ryan on the Levin show. Ryan’s math, while it sounds really good just “ain’t” going to work. It’s not the democrat party, it is all of them. Until the voters fire their representative or senator – it “ain’t” just their rep, it is the sum of all the parts. Sum of all the parts equals crooks.

  • Tbear

    If Boehner and Obama like it you know it is a loser for the taxpayers!!!!

  • Mark Davies

    Hey Democrat voters, thanks for the destruction of the country…

    • Angie Nathan

      They see it as a fundamental transformation.

  • 50gary

    Ryan is an appeaser. He has tremendous pressure from his “members” to give the appearance of budget hardline cuts This means a big number for headlines like his lousy $23 billion, to many people that’s’ a lot of money but that’s small change in the federal budget. The sequester is good it cuts the budget some that’s why the democrats don’t like it. That’s why the democrats make it hurt on the military, it’s one way they pressure the Republicans. The pressure comes not from a reduced fighting capability the rino’s couldn’t care any less about that, it’s the defense money that doesn’t make it back into their districts so that means less money fewer jobs that in turn mean fewer votes, end of story. use the Connie Mack one penny plan.

  • BiffBoop

    Ryan is a disgrace. The only reason I voted for liberal Romney in 2012 is because I was under the impression Ryan was a conservative. Boy was I wrong. He’s just another RINO. If the Republicans don’t nominate an actual conservative in 2016, I will for the first time in my life not vote Republican. I’m done with them.

    • lisa a

      Cruz/West 2016

      • heebie123

        I love that ticket. I also love Kane/Carson, Ryan (I think he is a good guy trying hard to do the right thing)/Walker, Jihndal/Mitchell, Martinez/Haley….Lots of good people who don’t have a snowballs chance UNLESS the Media does its job.

        • lisa a

          The media is doing the job they were told to do. It is up to us.

          • heebie123

            Yes…..I know :(

        • No One Important

          I don’t want Ryan on any ticket.I don’t want Rubio on any ticket.I don’t want Christie on any ticket. (Christie is going to implode anyway because of his own behavior)I like the Carson/Wet, or Carson/Cruz ticket, or the Jindhal/West ticket. . . .or a Jindahl/Martinez ticket. . . .

          • heebie123

            I am from NJ. I know Chrisite and he is getting worse, but if he is running against Hillary, I will vote for him. Benghazi is never far from my mind.

      • No One Important

        I really really like that combo!There’s always Carson/Cruz. . . .

    • heebie123

      Then you will be part of the total destruction of this country. Please, reconsider. As we all know that the perfect is the enemy of the good.

      • crs44

        Not when the supposed “good” are just Democrats in Republican clothing.

        • heebie123

          You missed the point.

      • dabba

        I get your point, but Ronald Reagan never said that.

        While I agree that you will never find someone you agree with 100%, I refuse to vote for RINO who flat out lies just to get elected and tells me he is the lesser of two evils, so I should support him.

        • heebie123

          Thank you for the correction. I had a feeling I shouldn’t be quoting when I was not sure. Looked it up and the origin is quite interesting. Goes back to Plato.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgA2rUAY-o Booker

      There’s a reason why this guy keeps getting re-elected in a democratic district.

    • PhocusPlease

      BiffBoop…” I will for the first time in my life not vote Republican.” Please reconsider…that’s why we have the group that’s in control now. Hold your nose and vote for the ‘rightest’ candidate you can find. Or, stay home and watch your country evaporate.

      • MyBrainHurts

        So voting for dem light is better than voting dem? The country goes to hell in 50 years instead of 10 years. What’s the difference? Personally, when all goes to hell and future generations ask where I was, what I did, I’ll be able to say I voted for principle not the better of two evils but the Sheeple had other ideas. So go ahead keep voting for the turd the GOP establishment shoves down your throat and keep blaming the direction of the country on others because you “took one for the team”

        • PhocusPlease

          Now I understand…why your brain hurts. Go ahead, sit home on your thumb and refuse to participate, that’ll show ‘em. Stunning.

          • MyBrainHurts

            Who said I’m not going to participate. Stop putting words in my mouth. Maybe you should follow the advise of your screen name.

          • MyBrainHurts

            I didn’t say i wasn’t going to participate. Stop putting words in my mouth. Maybe you should take the advice of your screen name

      • BiffBoop

        No. I will no longer play the game of “holding your nose” and losing. EVERY TIME the Republicans nominate a “moderate” on the pretense that he’s “electable”, they lose! Not one single “moderate” nominee has ever won the White House: Ford ’76, Dole ’96, McCain ’08, Romney ’12. THAT is why the country is evaporating – because the Republican Party is infiltrated by Democrats posing as Republicans who each election encourage the nomination of a “moderate” who is “electable”, knowing full well he will lose to the Democrat. And he loses. Don’t you get it? I do, and I’m not playing the game anymore.

  • Angie Nathan

    I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!
    I was dying just waiting for for Levin to explain a point that he has brought up many times. How can this congress bind future congresses to cut spending?
    I think Ryan was trying to drag us through the weeds about entitlement reform but Levin hit the nail on the head trying to get Ryan to explain the present status of the “looming” sequester. This sequester was supposed to be a hard deadline to cut spending in exchange for yesterdays hamburger. Its all smoke and mirrors and Ryan is pumping the bellows. If Ryan wanted to save us a measly few billion dollars he could have done nothing and we could have had Washington style cuts today by not paying the staff that worked on this “plan” or paying for the paper that it was written on.
    They have the excuse for action when saving the Pentagon from cuts even though they were the ones that that agreed to put them on the table to begin with. But when it came to Obamacare they did not have any excuse to take action on behalf of the thousands of desperately sick kids booted from their insurance.

    • timsrighty

      obamacare is a racist comment. don’t you watch MSNBC?

      • Angie Nathan

        I missed that, but I know it is racist to talk about racism unless you are a lefty.

      • heebie123

        Yep! So desperate, and yet they are sabotaging their own agenda. The more they label everything “racist” (remember “black hole” referring to money being wasted) the more the term is meaningless.

      • Thomas

        are you one of those 57 people?

  • Bambu

    There’s enough bull poop on both sides to sink our country. Until we get a balanced budget amendment and term limits we will not solve our country’s major issues.

  • stage9

    4 THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT RYAN-MURRAY BUDGET DEAL
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/10/4-Things-to-Know-About-Ryan-Budget-Deal

    1. The Deal Increases Federal Spending.
    2. The Deal Increases Federal Revenue.
    3. Spending Cuts Fuel More Spending.
    4. The Promised Deficit Reduction Will Never Happen.

    • lisa a

      I find it hard to vote this comment up.
      The contents. Not the OP.

    • timsrighty

      So in other words, it sucks. just say that dude.

  • woodfloor

    Ryan has perfected the motor mouth style of all progressives. Talk fast, circle back often to doublespeak talking points, listen never.

    • blueangel69

      Don’t answer questions directly and outright lying is permissible but do try and be clever if you please.

    • Angie Nathan

      If it takes 15 minutes to explain and another 15 minutes to defend, how can it be the right choice?

  • Nick

    So they didn’t work Amnesty into this budget deal somehow? Ryan is an absolute traitor to Conservatives. He and Boehner both have to go.
    Balance the Budget, cut spending, cut entitlement programs, get rid of the EPA, dissolve the IRS and enact the FairTax. End of!

  • 12grace

    3 Things You Need to Know About the
    Congressional Budget Deal

    1. It busts through supposed spending “caps.” The way Congress operates,
    it’s ridiculous for Members to set spending caps. They just keep busting right
    through them. The deal announced yesterday raises discretionary spending
    above the bipartisan spending agreement forged in 2011 as part of the Budget
    Control Act. Spending for defense and non-defense domestic programs would be
    raised by $45 billion in 2014 and by $18 billion in 2015.

    Once again, Congress has fallen into its old and destructive habit
    of trading more spending in one area for more spending in another. This is a bad “compromise” that keeps increasing spending, when just a little more effortto eliminate bad government programs and reduce wasteful spending could have saved taxpayers money instead.

    2. It taxes and spends. The agreement says that the increased spending
    is fully offset elsewhere in the budget, using a mix of spending cuts and
    non-tax revenue. Make no mistake, raising revenue to spend more is simply taxing and spending. If anything, automatic spending cuts could be exchangedfor targeted spending cuts. Trading spending cuts for more revenue, however, grows the burden of government. After all, Washington suffers from a spending problem, not a revenue one.

    3. It spends now and delays savings till later. The budget deal would
    spend $63 billion over the next two years—but take 10 years to make up for this splurge. This is a common Washington gimmick. To the conferees’ credit, the deal suggests one-third in additional deficit reduction—the details of which remain to be evaluated.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2013/12/11/3-things-you-need-to-know-about-congressional-budget-deal/

    • timsrighty

      so….it sucks?

  • Angie Nathan

    When it is time for intervention the addicts start jumping out windows or hiding in the bathroom. Congress is acting like this money is coming out of their own pocket. Oh wait….

  • sammy

    To all you naive “hardliners” calling Ryan weak or an appeaser….
    There’s a reason why the approval rating of Republicans in congress is currently only 22% and the Dems 33% even with the Obamacare fiasco in full swing. Its because the mass media (which Repub’s do not control) CRUCIFY republicans on every govt shutdown making them out to be extremists eager to cause pain. The Dems feel no pressure whatsoever to obey the constitution and pass a budget (none passed since 2009) because the clueless American people show they don’t understand the real problem which is that Obama’s budget proposals submitted since 2009 have been so absurd that none of them has gotten a single Democrat or Republican vote in the Senate. Until the American people can be made to understand that, and that the Dems WANT govt shutdowns for obvious political reasons, the ONLY thing Reps can do is to wisely avoid govt shutdowns and allow full attention to be foccused on the ongoing Obamacare disaster. The fact is there is no fiscal common ground when one party wants to increase spending even in the face of 1.4 Trillion dollar annual deficits and 17T in national debt. The only solution is to do whatever it takes tactically (e.g. avoiding shutdowns) to maximize the chance of the Reps taking back the Senate in 2014. At that point, concessions can be extracted from Obama with impeachment threats if needed.

    • brainpimp

      Oh I see, so we win by losing.

      • sammy

        And your solution is what? lose faster and longer by being stupid??

        • Doa74656

          Sure bring it to a head let it explode and make sure the world sees the democrats holding the bag when it happens and failing that… well I’m investing in steel and lead these days

          • sammy

            Before saying idiotic things like that, go find someone over 80 years old who still has a good memory and ask them what it was like growing up in the Great Depression. Then ask them what it would have been like if it has been 2 or 3 times worse than that. That is what will happen when the interest on the debt swallows up most of govt spending and leads to an inevitable dollar collapse.

      • sammy

        Prior to the last election Ryan submitted a much more comprehensive budget including entitlements. It really was not that aggressive in terms of the number of years it took to bring the budget to balance. It was tacitly endorsed by Romney when he picked Ryan as a VP. Did voters care enough to show up for Romney and Ryan on election day to support this fiscal responsibility?? 4 Million Rep voters that showed up for McCain in 2008 didn’t even bother to vote in 2012. So tell me why a Repub in DC should produce a hard line comprehensive budget until Reps control more of the fed govt, or until the American people wake up?

      • Dave Algonquin

        We lose a little less.

      • pearsone

        Change your nickname to BRAINDEAD.

    • blueangel69

      So you’re saying it’s a communication problem? I agree.

      • sammy

        Yes, it is, along with a lack of civics education problem with the American people. Republicans actually get punished now for doing the “right” thing which would be drastic cuts in spending. It is foolish to attempt that and suffer big political losses when it is a FACT FACT FACT that Obama has shown he will sign no budget bill that drastically cuts spending or even address entitlements. He feels no pressure whatsoever.

    • Doa74656

      So what you are saying is give up Give in to get along
      Sorry not going to do it

      • sammy

        No, I’m saying realize your position (which is that Reps are powerless to make Obama sign any budget with cuts). The best thing Reps can do is win the 2014 elections. PERIOD.

        • heebie123

          Funny, we were typing at the same time. You are right on Sammy.

      • heebie123

        No what he is saying is that we have to stick together and vote in mass for Republicans. Then we can weed out the ones that don’t do the job, but at least we have R’s in place. The damage to this country is devastating now, but can you imagine if we didn’t have the House? We’d all be saying “Heil Obama” and better be liking it.

      • pearsone

        You need to learn how to comprehend what you read and cut out your hysteria.

    • $5476092

      Sammy, I could not agree more. Independents have always been the key and they went sour on the GOB and especially the TEA party during the partial government shutdown. Yes, they do not understand what is at stake but they do not like Obama and the Democrats who are forcing them to endure Obamacare. TEA party conservatives seem unable to comprehend that there are not enough of us to do anything without other less conservative participants. Obama is a hardcore leftist and he will NEVER sign a budget that includes true reform and fiscal responsibility. And for those who say that “this is war and we need to fight” I remind you of General MacArthur who left the Philippines under Japanese control in order to be able to return to fight and win.

      • deTocqueville1

        Sure, that’s why there was a resounding House win in 2010!!!

        • $5476092

          Yeah, 2010 was great. Was there a government shutdown prior to the election? No. 2014 can be just a good or better if we just don’t screw it up by appearing to be obstructionist and unreasonable which is how the media will paint the GOP if there is another shutdown.

    • Lamont Cranston

      this is absolutely correct, the only way we can ever win is to avoid another shutdown and the deal Ryan got is infinitely better with no tax hikes.

      • dabba

        You can like or dislike the deal, but let’s be honest. Technically, they did not raise taxes, but they did raise “fees.” Just semantics really.

      • No One Important

        But this deal also undoes the cuts. . . .so this is somehow better than a continuing resolution?Not by a long shot.

      • deTocqueville1

        How many shut downs have there been in the last forty years and with what effect. Check the facts.

    • heebie123

      Sammy, I love you! You can articulate so well what I have been trying to say for years. I wish the RNC would hire you in some capacity so that you can help to get the word out in a way that the average American will understand. I am serious. You have talents that could help win elections. Thank you.

      • deTocqueville1

        Yeah, Sammy would fit right in at the RNC!

    • pearsone

      exactly sammy-These so called conservatives sound like liberals with their emotional and outrageous comments.

  • Geepa

    If Patty Murray had anything to do with it, it’s a POS.

    • kogk1943

      You stated it all.

  • ata777

    this is exactly why we need a third party that focuses on the nuts and bolts of governance, and leaves the media-bashable social issues out of the equation. I know all the arguments against third parties, but it’s getting to the point where millions of Americans have no representation whatsoever in Washington–and I’m betting they know it, and are willing to do something about it.

    • Doa74656

      Yeah great idea While that 3rd party is focusing on nuts and bolts the republican vote will split and leave the rest to the democrats

      • mark8302

        You have to get rid of the the Roves and the others that run the RNC and get conservatives in the RNC. I has gone downhill since Michael Steele.

    • bullet2354

      Any Third party will need ONE BILLION DOLLARS to run an effective National Presidential Campaign. And that is just for 2016.

      Libertarians run awesome election campaigns every presidential cycle and cry in their beers on election night when “1-2%” of the population votes for them. Why? Ego! Arrogance! Stupidity! Pride!

      Now that Obama has put 47% of the American Public on Government Heroin Handouts – every election is more critical than ever.

      Do not talk third party until REAL MONEY is on the table.

      • MyBrainHurts

        Bullcrud! Your post demonstrates exactly why a third party won’t work right now. Its time to start voting principle instead of the worst of two evils. As long as the GOP knows people have your mind set they will never change and we will keep getting progressive light or big govt guys rammed down our throats.

        You, me, everyone else here – we have real money, use it. give to tea party guys, Libertarians, anyone who opposes the GOP establishment. your 5 bucks and my 5 bucks and 20 million other people’s 5 bucks will add up. Koch Bros aren’t going to help. Soros definitely isn’t. Hollywood? Big business? Not! So its up to us little people to get the job done. Talk to your friends decide who you are going to support based on principle and donate. Stop waiting for someone with “real money” to come bail us out. It isn’t going to happen.

        • bullet2354

          Politics does not work that way my friend. Stop kidding your self. I vote principles too – but 9 out of 10 Americans DO NOT. Why is that? Principles require some serious study first off and most importantly . . .
          the PRESS CONTROLs THE INFORMATION.
          They ‘MAKE’ some ISSUES important and bury other critical National issues. All based on driving negatives (negative polling views) for the GOP and positives for the Dems.
          You can not get NBC et al. to do a FAIR story let alone print regular news for a week. Everything they KNOW is Cultural Marxism.

          And remember the MSM will call you an EXTREMIST and paint you a Racist regardless (even if you are black; see Allen West) – that means that all your principles are worthless – because NO ONE KNOWS them without the MSM FILTER. 100Trillion in Debt – no one knows.
          Anti constitutional/lawless/ marxist agenda – ‘no one knows.’
          It will take a billion$ to fight that media war. If 25 million people stand up (no small figure mind you – (only 60 Million voted for the GOP in 2012) and each give $40 specifically for the 2016 campaign – you would have a true movement with real legs.

    • timsrighty

      Obama and the dems do not represent me on one single issue. the repubs stand idly by. conservatism is the only hope we have. it certainly doesn’t exist in the dem party. the tea party has tried to revive it only to be called every bigoted name in the book. so the third party can only mean libertarians. while I agree with their view on economic responsibility and what not, these are people in favor (john stossel) of legalizing heroin, meth, pot, prostitution etc. NO.
      cons must take back the GOP. or we all suffer greatly.

    • MyBrainHurts

      Just need to get people to stop listening to the beltway talking heads that say it can’t be done. The GOP was a third party and wiped out the WIG party in a short time.

      • timsrighty

        that was then this is now.

        • MyBrainHurts

          and your point? anything that has happened can happen again.

    • briandear

      Third Party is why we got Bill Clinton. Third Party also gave us Terry McAuliffe in Virginia. This third party nonsense needs to stop and conservatives need to start voting for ANY republican over the Democrat. Democrats know how to win because they don’t get on their moral high horses. Romney lost because Republicans stayed home because he wasn’t a “perfect” candidate or he was a mormon or whatever. Well jackasses, your sanctimonious protest gave us Obama. But at least you can be morally assured you didn’t vote for that mormon or that guy that was only 75% conservative right? That attitude borders on retarded.

      Republicans and conservatives need to simply vote straight ticket in every election — even down to school board. Let’s win elections instead of hand-wringing about ideological purity. The primary is the place for that. When it comes to the general election, any Republican is better than any Democrat.

      If I didn’t know any better, I’d think that you guys liked to lose simply because it give you a hobby in complaining about how terrible things are. Well, I hate to lose and I hate being the victim of democrat nonsense.

      • No One Important

        It’s probably a liberal, masquerading as a disenfranchised republican. . .touting the “3rd party” nonsense that guarantees a democrat win.Probably a strategy that the democrats came up with. . . . . .to try to splice the votes like in Virginia. . . .Maybe we should recruit another Ralph Nader to pull the far left. . .That would be funny, pass petitions around and get these weirdoes on all the ballots in states to run as third party against the democrats. . . .

        • dabba

          Yep. Just put ultra-leftist on the ballots and have them chant “the rich need to pay their fair share.” Have them all support abortion on demand, legalizing pot, single payer health care, more green energy (scams), and a carbon tax. That should do it.

      • deTocqueville1

        We got Clinton because GHW Bush lied about new taxes with his RINO assistant John Sununu.

    • No One Important

      Third party gives you democrat control.anyone who touts “3rd party” is probably working for the democrats, trying to splice the conservative/libertarian wings. . . .

  • John Smith

    It is just more smoke and mirrors…

  • heyheymama51

    The main stream Reps. are done. We need new blood. This is war damn it.
    War on America by the Dems and the MSM.

  • PhocusPlease

    Democrats drop a quarter in the jukebox just to watch the Republicans dance. And while the Republicans dance, the Democrats roll out their next socialist step, and drop another quarter in the machine. They pick the music, we dance to their tune. Had Enough? November 2014

    • Angie Nathan

      Adam Kinzinger district 6 Illinois has to go.
      Any challenger for R. Johnson WI or Michael Grimm N.Y. ?

  • mark8302

    For God’s sake what does Ryan think he is doing? And, this was the man running for VP. I can only conclude that there is something in the air or water in Washington that disrupts the thinking process.

    • jack black

      Ryan has authored several balanced budgets, it’s not his fault the Dims won’t pass them, he’s proposed tax reform that ends special interest loopholes in exchange for lower globally competitive levels. His Medicare reform plan is outstanding, and would not only save money, but bend the cost curve in health care spending. He’s lead the way on holding the line on sequester, even this deal results in 23 billion in additional savings over sequester.

      Paul Ryan is a damn fine leader, he is a solid Conservative, and our country needs a leader like him in 2016.

      • mark8302

        Yes it is his fault if he proposes something that will not pass. A damn fine leader not in a leadership position is a follower. It is is obvious you like him. But, his main quality is funky math, not leadership.

      • deTocqueville1

        Balanced budgets when? Way out in the future with different Congresses. Hardly credible.

        • jack black

          Last three budgets that passed the House Paul Ryan authored and pushed through the House to passage. Senate dims refuse to even look at a balanced budget.

    • pearsone

      What would you have him do mark.Cut off his nose to spite his face.

      • No One Important

        What would we have him do?How about not undoing the sequester cuts?That’s what this budget does. . .

  • timsrighty

    wow. I didn’t know Mark Levin and Paul Ryan could stir up so much doo doo. it’s not like we haven’t heard this lip service before. left this right that, please they’re all losers. the biggest loser lives in the white house (oops racist remark) and another loser is right on obamas heels. Hillary. Levin and ryan’s are doing the same thing gop’s always do…find a way to lose an election to a bunch of leftists. One thing about libs…they come together at election time. when have we done that? come together, right now, over me. and you, and this country. liberals must be defeated. cruz cruz cruz.

  • bullet2354

    Ryan should go back and LOOK AT THE LAST FEW ‘DEALS’ and show the GOP where the CUTS WERE REALIZED, how much was saved; where the previous DEALS worked and where they did not.

    He would then have more AMMO in dealing in the future with the Dems.

    I do like what he says – given the Prog-tards in power – but would like to actual results. That we got the Sequester passed was pretty amazing and he should get some credit for that.

    • deTocqueville1

      But unfortunately his proposals have been just like this deal, cutting a small percentage from the annual increase out into never, never land.

      • bullet2354

        Prog-tard cultural Marxist’s rule the roost! What can you reasonably expect?

        This is Obama/Reid/Pelosi! These are the THREE MOST LIBERAL PEOPLE in Washington DC and two of them are fully in charge of their Branch of the Federal Government.

        I think you discount how treacherous they are! The Government of today is designed to do one thing and one thing only – BUY VOTES, VIA PROGRAMS WITH TAX DOLLARS and burrowed monies.
        There is NO incentive in Washington DC to CUT ANYTHING. – that person is voted out asap.

        This is what we are up against.

  • codestaxx

    You know what the Republicans just don’t get? They have UNUSED power of the purse. Who gives a damn they don’t control the Senate and the presidency? You know what Democrats say to themselves? We don’t have control over the house. Why can’t you losers realize that? Do your duty; the budget originates in the house. Don’t conference, don’t succumb to pressure, don’t give up the fight and, at all costs, hold the line. We don’t need Democrat-lite. We don’t need Paul Ryan.

    • jack black

      Democrat light? What? Paul Ryan is one of the only Republicans i could vote for in 2016. He’s authored several balanced budgets, his tax reform plan ends special interest loopholes in the tax code for reduced rates that are globally competitive.

      Far from being another politician who understands we have a problem, but doesn’t understand the problem, Paul Ryan knows we have a problem, and how to fix them.

      The GOP needs a serious person like Paul Ryan in 2016, the country is going off the cliff, we need serious reformers right now

    • pearsone

      Did you notice the shutdown brainiac.That is what happens sir when you only have one part of the government under your control.Especially with a bunch of Senate rhinos working against you.You act as if they actually follow the Constitution.

      • deTocqueville1

        Perhaps a little Constitutional history might help you.

      • codestaxx

        Your optic is completely _____. The Senate refuses to vote on the house bills. REFUSED. So if you want to place blame, place it in the Senate. But then again, you’re only doing what the propaganda has asked you to do, question the minority.

      • codestaxx

        Brainiac. Despite your attempt to change history, the Senate created the shutdown. Pay attention.

  • mark8302

    I sounds like he’s saying that “You have to pass it to see what it does. Doesn’t that worry you and sound familiar.

    • breakn70

      The Republicans are completely unmoored from conservative principles thus have no ideological foundation from which to legislate. Everything is relative to them and so long as they function slightly to the right of the Democrat position they seem to think they’re doing the right thing. They don’t BELIEVE in anything thus don’t see the need to fight FOR anything.

      • jack black

        Don’t blame the GOP! They only have 1/3 of the governing body, or the House. The dims control the Senate and White House. This is the reality right now, and the Dim controlled Senate hasn’t passed a single GOP passed item from the House.

        Obama designed Sequester to disproportionately effect the Military, Ryan has designed some relief for our war-fighters, our troops, while still bringing down deficits further than we would have got with sequestration alone! Protecting our troops, while cutting the deficit.

        With this agreement we get an additional 23 billion in deficit savings over 10 years, on top of the sequestration levels. Is it the end all be all solution, it never will be so long as the Dims control 2/3 of the governing body. But it is a step in the right direction, the best we’ll get with the liberals running so much.

        • mark8302

          10 years will never happen. It’s now or never at this point.

          • jack black

            If the GOP takes the Senate next year, very likely as NJ rates 13 vulnerable dim seats next year, these cuts stay, and likely grow, maybe then we can finally pass Paul Ryan’s real budget, the one that balances without raising taxes.

            We’ve got this in 2016, unless we start eating solid Conservatives like Paul Ryan instead of focusing on the real goal. Defeating the real problem, the Democrats, in the polls.

            Paul Ryan is my first vote in 2016

            • mark8302

              Do you honestly believe it is that simple? Factor in the dollar crashing, war in the middle east, China dumping treasury bonds, the U.S. loosing the reserve currency position, Japan and China, and only God knows what else.

              I want to rid the government of communist/fascists as much as you do. But Mr. Black, you won’t see 2016.

              Levin has the right idea with a Constitutional Convention. That is probably the only hope left. All else is Mickey Mouse.

        • deTocqueville1

          Same old rationalization for defeat and capitulation.

      • mark8302

        The republicans lack leadership for now. What can you expect from McConnell and Boehner. It would be a little different if Cruz or Paul were at ht helm. Conservatives by nature are conservative and that is a big problem, However, if you don’t see the need to fight, You have given up already. I choose to go down fighting like a mad man.

  • sammy

    Paul Ryan knows he is powerless until the American people wake up to the fact that fiscal responsibility matters. Obama ignored the recommendations of his own debt commission and continued submitting budget proposals so RIDICULOUS that not even the democrats in the Senate would vote for them, AND YET, he still got re-elected. The big problem is with the ignorance of the American people.

    • jack black

      Agreed, I like the fact Ryan was able to give our troops some relief from the sequester, which Obama designed to hit them the hardest, and managed to negotiate an additional 23 billion in deficit reduction on top of sequester levels.

      Incremental steps like this are about the best we can hope for while the Dims control the Senate and White House.

  • LibsAreNuts

    It is worth losing a few elections if that is what it takes to restore real conservative fiscal policies but progressives can do a lot of damage in a short amount of time.

  • Latino

    Paul Ryan called himself a Conservative last night….what a joke….since he is the primary proponent of AMNESTY

    • sammy

      When you’re in a position of having no power at all (due to the fact that Obama doesn’t have to run again for office and will NOT sign any bill with spending cuts) you do what you can to GET into a position of having more power. That is exactly what Ryan is doing.

      • Latino

        House of Reps control the purse strings…Ryan sold out the values of Conservatives…put this with his other Progressive activities and one has to wonder….he is the number one ally of the open border group…The idea we have to actually cross the aisle is absurd…..Becoming more like Democrats will not win an election…Staying true to our Conservative principles is the only way to WIN

        • sammy

          “House of Reps control the purse strings”

          That is a naive statement showing a lack of civics knowledge. If a new budget is not passed and signed by the president, then the level of spending of the last budget is maintained. In order for the House of Reps to make a change to “the purse strings” they have to pass a budget AND have it passed in the Senate AND have it signed by the president. So they do NOT control the purse strings totally by themselves.

          • Latino

            So any budget is better ? this government has been running on continued resolutions…..so selling out on our ideals is the way to go? just to say we got a budget? Throwing in the towel to Democrats just does not cut it for me

            • No One Important

              The spending cuts (sequester cuts) would have stayed in place. . . .this budget undoes them, with the help of P:aul Ryan and the republicans whining about the defense budget cuts. . . .

              • Latino

                Correct….Democrats got the better deal

          • No One Important

            If a new budget is not passed and signed by the president, then the level of spending of the last budget is maintained.It’s called a continuing resolution.And if Paul Ryan didn’t cut this deal, the spending cuts would stay in place.

      • No One Important

        If that’s the case, then don’t play kissy face about how great the plan is.Be honest (like another poster said.)We don’t have the power in the senate – we’re never going to get the cuts we wanted, they’re insisting on sequester cuts being repealed. . .(but I think that’s republicans doing that). . .so here’s the junkiest plan that has the best chance of passing. . .The problem is – Ryan is also undoing the best thing that happened. . .republicans want to undo the defense cuts, and that’s insane. . .The fact is – Ryan isn’t a “conservative”. . .he’s giving the farm away, pretending it’s a “good deal” when the fact is. . it’s a garbage cra$p sandwich and he’s trying to portray it as something it isn’t. . . . .It’s not a cut. It’s a reduction in the rate of growth. . we’re back to big spending again. . . .Time to support his primary challenger and send a real conservative to the house who will speak clearly. . . .

    • CLAYCE

      Ryan is a RINO. No credibility!!

    • pearsone

      fiscal conservative einstein

  • Attila

    The GOP is worthless.

    • sammy

      The GOP “establishment” is worthless, not all its members. Rand Paul for example is excellent on most counts. So is Mike Lee and Daryl Issa. There are many more conservatives in the House who are excellent. The problem is they don’t have control.

      • Angie Nathan

        Why are Rand and Mitch holding hands every day? Somebody better let Rand know that he could catch fleas from McConnell and his campaign manager Jesse Benton. Maybe not guilt by association but definitely looks bad by association.

        • IndyTom

          I don’t interpret anything as holding hands. They represent the same state, one is the majority leader, Rand has to go through him, and they have to at least be civil. Do you want them to endlessly knock heads?

          • Angie Nathan

            Civil yes, attached at the hip no. He has to work with Pelosi & Reed too and for all practical purposes I would rather see Rand conspiring behind a hot mic with Reed than that traitor from Ky. At least give Reed credit for his effectiveness, if any bootlicking needs done why should Rand wear out his tongue on Mitch?

          • Angie Nathan

            Endlessly no, but if Rand would set Mitch straight with one good knock to the head (to use your euphemism) he could spare himself the futility of the future knocks.

        • pearsone

          Yes He should totally ignore the leader and just stand in the corner right angie.

      • CLAYCE

        You forgot Ted Cruz, who has solid thinking and guts!

  • epv33

    Mark Levin is the ONLY Conservative host that have gone after these
    RINOS from the start by exposing them by name.

    Not Rush and not Hannity, if anyone wants to keep tabs on these
    rats he should listen to his show, and he is also the only one that
    does not charge his listeners to listen to his past shows on his website.
    No “premium” anything.

    • freewill2

      wake up ep. levin is a chameleon.

    • sammy

      Paul Ryan tried the approach of a comprehensive conservative budget prior to the 2012 elections remember? Did the American people wake up and rally around him? And did they support him and Romney?? H@ll No. Ryan is not a RINO. He is simply in a powerless position which he understands and you apparently do not.

      • deTocqueville1

        Ryan has spent almost his entire adult life as an inside DC enabler.

  • freewill2

    how can anybody be fooled by levin? he sabotaged ron paul and supported romney, the guy is a talkin head!

    • No One Important

      No one sabotaged Ron Paul. He’s a nutjob. All those “caucuses” that he was supposed to dominate? Nada. Nothing. Zip. Zilch. it wasn’t some conspiracy. (You guys seriously need to grow up. Stop making excuses.)Even his campaign manager said “we don’t understand what happened.” when Ron Paul failed over and over at caucuses. . . . .What happened is, the nation knows Ron Paul is a whackjob, and the cult followers of Ron Paul spent so much time telling themselves they were going to win, they never looked outside at what the rest of the nation thought of that idiot. . . .There’s a reason his support never rises above 9%. It’s mostly college kids, and most of us grow up when we graduate and realize what a whacko he is.We all remember the stupid gig where the cult followers went on blog forums playing the “wow, I’m a republican and I just found out about Ron Paul! He’s amazing!” nonsense. . . .We saw them play that game over, and over and over. . .trying to create their own “wave”. . . .it was pathetic.They never took their cult glasses off and looked at the real world. Looked at how Ron Paul really is.He’s a nutjob. The nation laughs at his nonsense. . . .he has a couple of points, but that’s about it.Everything else, he’s been a hypocrite about.He is also an “open borders” person. . . .better get your mind around that one. . . .

      • freewill2

        your a talkin head! you never listened to the unedited speaches. you only know what the pro government media told you! the pro government media didn’t show you the enormous crowds that gathered at his rallys. you didn’t hear about missing ballot boxes in precincts where he had huge support. the pro government media didn,t tell you he had more contributions from military personel than all others combined! the pro government media didn,t tell you that the biggest bankers contributed to romney and obama. you should question what you see and hear in the pro goverment media!

    • MyBrainHurts

      ron paul sabotaged ron paul

      • freewill2

        you mimick levin, start thinking for yourself!

        • MyBrainHurts

          Nope don’t listen to his show, it’s on too late. doing other things by then so how can I mimck him when i don’t even know what he said. Ron Paul unintentionally made himself look unhinged (even though it was only true passion on the subject). that is what sabotaged him

          • freewill2

            I dont know what time his show is on these days. I would catch it once in a while years ago, he’s a chameleon. he supported romney. he talks like he’s for the constitution but backs people that violate it.

    • deTocqueville1

      Ron Paul is irrelevant. We are discussing Ryan’s sell out.

      • freewill2

        levins credibility is relevant!

  • Steve Fitzpatrick

    its more important to win the senate next year than to gripe, pass a budget now and crush the democrats next year and Obama is lame duck
    and we can work on getting this country back to american values

    • Enrique Vela

      Are you crazy. What happened last time Republicans had the Presidency, Senate and Congress?
      1. A temporary tax cut.
      2. Bankruptcy reform for the Bankers.
      I cannot think of anything else because the repubs always knuckled under to what the Democrats wanted.

      • ttiwkram

        Don’t forget all the bailouts.

      • Steve Fitzpatrick

        thats what started the tea party. if we stop whinning stop doing stupid things like shutting down the government and get more tea party members elected. the rebublician party
        will get back to representing the regular folk again. simple stop giving democrats something to attack with get more tea party members elected

        • deTocqueville1

          Just another sell out.

    • deTocqueville1

      Wrong. It is more important to take a stand and campaign on it in 2014 in order to take back the Senate.

  • Angie Nathan

    At least the convention of states is gaining traction. It sounds like Washington wants their fingers in that pot too. Could Indianapolis be our new Philadelphia?

    • No One Important

      Wouldn’t that be kewel?I’d love to move the capital. . .watch all that real estate around Washington just plummet over nite. . .become worthless because it is no longer near the “spending capital”. . . .The beauty of a state convention is that each state will receive the same number of delegates. . .so one state will not run rough shod over others (the way the senate was formulated)Not to mention, anything that comes out of the convention has to be ratified by 3/5s of the state houses. . . .So it’s a “self braking” mechanism. . . .you can’t get a runaway convention. . . .Those founders were brilliant. . . .so much foresight and wisdom. . . .

  • sammy

    When the govt shut down the last time was Obama scared? Did he run around trying to lessen the pain? NO. He instructed govt agencies to maximize the pain to the public. We know this from emails that were leaked by govt employees. Even to the point of kicking WW2 vets in wheelchairs off the WW2 memorial and putting up barricades. And after all that did he or the republicans get blamed for the shutdown? Clearly the polls show it was the republicans.
    Ryan is doing the best he can given the incredibly weak hand he is dealt politically speaking. Until there is a change in the American people and they wake up, doing anything to shut down the govt is an act of stupidity. Even if you shut it down indefinitely it still does not solve the fiscal problems since entitlement payments along with their automatic annual increases still happen. The brief halt to discretionary spending is a drop in the bucket.

    • No One Important

      No he isn’t.he comes out and paints this as some “cut” (lie) when the fact is – if he had simply said “this is the best deal we can get because we don’t control the senate at this time”. . . .my respect for him would have been immensely higher. . .But don’t repackage dog cr**p spending increases. . .and try to paint it as a “spending cut”. . . .I’m sick of the republican party lying to me. . .and I’m heavily involved. . . . .Trust me, what my locals and county/state are hearing from me bothers them. . .a lot. Because I’m not the only one they’re hearing this from. . . .

      • sammy

        But every cut any of them talk about (including Rand Paul) is in the context of Baseline budgetting which increase most discretionary line items automatically every year. He is not “lying” just because YOU fail to understand that Baseline Budgeting has existed since the 1970’s. Should it be done away with? Absolutely, but that isn’t even on the table since not one Dem or Obama would ever support that.

        • No One Important

          Ok, one more time because you seem to be impaired. This budget undoes the sequester cuts. . . .get it?We’re better off with the continuing resolutions. . . .both sides are using this as an excuse to undo the cuts to the spending. . . .

          • sammy

            Did any of my arguments get through your thick skull?? The approval rating of Reps in Congress is currently 10 points below the Dems at an appalling 20% even with Obamacare imploding. Sequestration has done NOTHING to bolster the Republican brand. What will one more year of the sequestration cuts matter if the Dems keep the Senate and possibly retake the House? The importance of the sequestration cuts are a NIT compared to the importance of keeping the House and regaining the Senate in 2014. Only at that point with the possibility of impeaching Obama for his egregious unconstitutional overreaches will Reps ever get a real spending “decrease” signed into law.

            • No One Important

              My thick skull? Who said anything about some nutty idea of impeaching? wow, talk about injecting irrelevant comments. Republicans are now trusted more than Democrats on health care.Republicans now lead in the generic congressional ballot poll from +2.6 to +5. . .What part of this don’t you understand?Look, I appreciate your loyalty and all. . but what was wrong with continuing resolutions that kept the cuts and current spending levels in place, hmmmm?the “threat” of a shut down? If the republicans don’t do it. . there’s no threat. . . .Face it – this is about shutting down the congressional reps that want cuts to the government. . .this is about shafting the “small government” people. . . .There was nothing wrong with a continuing resolution that didn’t increase spending and kept the cuts in place.Get it now cheerleader? Spend less time cheerleading for Ryan, and more time looking at what he’s actually doing. . .

            • deTocqueville1

              Sorry friend, you are wrong on all counts.

    • deTocqueville1

      Were you in Norway when Hitler invaded?

  • $5999567

    Well, if it smells like a mouse, and squeaks like a mouse……….

  • CLAYCE

    Mark Levin states things clearly with no fancy elitist rubbish!

    • Proud Conservative Mom

      That is why I LOVE “The Great One.” He is a brilliant radio host and an outstanding author. I also admire the fact that Mark is so principled and can never be bought or sold. It is a shame that he is only one in a million.
      The main stream media is in bed with Obama and his Commie ilk and have been so from the very beginning. They “report” lockstep on whatever talking points the DemocRATs want them to say.

  • lrjrj

    How many gullible Americans voted for Obama bc he said he would cut deficits in half, spending, budgets would be scrutinized “line by line”? Why can’t Dems admit their leftism involves no fiscal responsibility, no limits to spending and the growth of gov’t, and no expectation at all that Democrats look out for the taxpayers interests. And further, any political opponents who suggest even slowing down the INCREASES in spending of the federal gov’t will be smeared as “hating the poor.” Any wonder the country is going down the tubes?

    • Proud Conservative Mom

      You are so correct in all that you wrote. It never ceases to amaze me how many foolish and naive people there are out there.
      The only reason why a few Lefties are finally waking up and smelling the coffee is because Obamcare is costing THEM their time, insurance policies, and money (for those that actually have a job).

      • lrjrj

        at least after Bush, Tea Party of intelligent Americans, promoting the minimum requirements of being a responsible citizen, have called for gov’t to stop expanding and to return to a trajectory of unsustainable growth, and were still smeared and rejected as radicals!

  • Joseph P. Campbell

    I hope Levin decides to run for office; he has my vote…

    • No One Important

      Why should he take a pay cut? (grin)

  • Ultracon

    Still kicking the can……. we’re dead.

  • Lugh

    I don’t have any love for the GOP establishment, but the Tea Party has done more to elect Democrats than the DNC. We could have gotten rid of Harry Reid but no, we had to nominate Sharron Angle. We could have taken Biden’s seat but no, we had to nominate that utter idiot Christine O’Donnell. Look at the race for VA governor. All we had to do was nominate someone slightly to the left of Attila the Hun, but no, we had to go for a hardcore right-winger and lose the election (all the while telling ourselves that this was a good thing). We could have re-elected Scott Brown in Massachusetts of all places, but no, he wasn’t Conservative enough, so now we have Elizabeth-stinkin’-Warren. And if the GOP and the Tea Party had turned out for Romney like they should have in key swing states, we would have taken the damned presidency. But no, let’s brand Romney a RINO and get another four years of Obama. Grow the hell up, Tea Party, you’re part of the problem.

    • Rich Wiley

      Lugh, lets see if I got this right. The Tea Party voters are to blame for not supporting RINOS, but the Rinos are not to blame for not supporting Tea Party candidates. It would seem that you want their vote in the Republican Party, but besides voting they should just shut up. BTW, anyone to the left of me is a “Hard Leftwinger”.

      • Lugh

        If you think that you’re going to get someone like Ted Cruz elected in Massachusetts, then you’re delusional. Only a Scott Brown will win in Massachusetts, period. So either you support Scott Brown who will vote with you 50% of the time, or you don’t and let someone like Liz Warren win, who will support you 0% of the time and possibly run for president. Those are the facts in deep blue states. I’d rather have what you derisively call a RINO in office in Massachusetts than a dyed-in-the-wool, hardcore liberal. And I’d rather have Romney in office than Obama.

        • Rich Wiley

          The point I’m not sure you are recognizing is the you don’t gain votes by going to the left. You pick up some liberal independents and lose true Conservatives. You lose your identy and what you stand for. For years I voted for the lesser of two evils, and I’m done with it. Being true to your ideals is more important than elections.

          • Lugh

            I recognize your point, though I reject it. If you are a “true” Conservative in the state of Massachusetts, you are faced with either voting for Scott Brown and possibly giving the Left a black eye in the bluest-of-blue states OR not voting and letting Granny Warren win. The choice is obvious: it is better to have a moderate Republican in office in a blue state than it is to have a hardcore liberal. That’s not moving to the left, that’s accepting reality and helping the team win.

    • TheTruthIsNotPC

      I think Karl Rove, et. al., who have had a success rate of approx. 2% in getting their candidates elected in the last election have done more to elect Democrats.

      • sammy

        Karl Rove got Bush elected twice. If you accuse him of trying to elect non-conservative RINO’s to congress I’d say he was a lot more successfull than 2%.

        • TheTruthIsNotPC

          As I commented, in the last election, only 2% of his candidates won. The Tea Party backed candidates had a much higher success rate.

          • deTocqueville1

            And look at the money he squandered for such terrible results.

            • TheTruthIsNotPC

              Well, he got his fee, and I guess that’s all that matters after all…

        • No One Important

          And there are 80 “tea party” republicans in congress.Not a bad showing by the grass roots out there on their first round. . . . .

        • deTocqueville1

          The SCOTUS got Bush elected the first time and he barely squeaked through the second time running against a disastrous opponent. The Architect must have flunked out before graduation.

      • Proud Conservative Mom

        Spot on! It is a pity that too few people really understand that.

    • bicentennialguy

      Boo hoo. You seem to think that if we nominate so-called moderates, we will win. I got news for you – we won’t and never will. You say it’s a problem to nominate hard-core conservatives because they cannot win, but somehow, hard-core leftists seem to win. Why do you think that is? I have some ideas – they promise utopia and that they are going to solve every woe right down to the most annoying hangnail and they never deliver – ever – and they are not held accountable for these promises. Why you ask? Because of a media establishment whose main goal is not to report news, but to get as many Democrats elected as possible. In doing this, they have to destroy, impugn and vilify Conservatives and Republicans. When the public is constantly bombarded with negative notions about a political party on the news, in pop culture, print and everywhere else, what do you expect to happen? Even the most grandiose lies are lapped up by the public and propagated by the hacks in our so-called media.

      I do agree that our candidates are not ideal – not because of their beliefs or values, but because they cannot articulate Conservatism. Most people are conservative. They just don’t know it. And God forbid you point it out to them, because it pushes them away even further. I don’t have a solution but it certainly is not to nominate Democrat sympathizers or Democrats with an (R) behind their name. Remember, at the the end of the day, these people all work together in the same place and have loyalty and camaraderie to each other, not their constituents. It’s like any other workplace and that’s a problem too.

      • Proud Conservative Mom

        Thank you for that wonderful posting. I was going to reply and post what you did, but you beat me to the punch and did a wonderful job. I agree with everything that you wrote. You really hit it out of the park.
        I wish more people would have your brains and understand the truth the way you do.
        G-d bless and happy holidays to you and your entire family.

        • bicentennialguy

          Thank you so much and all the best to you and yours.

          I’m just as disgusted and disillusioned as you are. I don’t know what to do and to be honest, I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel any time soon (or ever). Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but that’s my outlook as of late.

          • Proud Conservative Mom

            You are not Debbie Downer. You are saddened at what is happening to our country and I am too. You are honest and astute as to the great peril that we are facing as a nation. That makes you intelligent.
            I am hoping that something will come out of an Article Five Convention of the States. Mark Levin speaks often of it and wrote a great book about it called “The Liberty Amendments.” What are your thoughts on this process? I think it is our only chance.
            Washington is full of crooked politicians that will never reform itself. There are too few patriots like Cruz and Lee in Congress.
            The beauty to this process is if 34 states agree to ratify new amendments and vote to pass them, it completely bypasses the federal Congress and the tyrannical Obama’s veto pen.
            There was an initial convention this past Saturday. Mark is going to interview the people who put it together this week to keep us updated.
            Just remember, you are not alone. Keep on making your voice heard. We must never allow the Left to silence us. If G-d forbid that was to happen, it would really be all over.

            • bicentennialguy

              I haven’t read Mark’s book, but I am aware of the process. My concern is it being hijacked or the end product not being ratified. But as you said, it is the most promising process. All we can do is pray, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst and never let them grind you down!

              • Proud Conservative Mom

                It will not be hijacked. The State of Indiana passed laws that prevented this from happening. They are a model for other states of how to keep the delegates on a tight leash and other states are following.
                For example any delegate who tries to do something against the will of the State of Indiana gets pulled immediately and put in prison. It was signed by Governor Pence. There are very strict laws about the delegates.
                And if you think about it, there is a runaway convention every day in the federal Congress and the Supreme Court!

      • dabba

        Cudos. Very well said.

      • Lugh

        Most so-called Republicans in this country wouldn’t know conservatism if I smacked them across the face with a Collected Works of Edmund Burke. It’s not that they can’t articulate Conservatism, they don’t know it and they never will. They are neo-Cons, like Bush, like Boehner, like Santorum, and all the other empty suits who trumpet a cause they don’t understand.

        Tell me, who is a “real” Conservative? Is it Todd Akin, who is so terminally stupid that he doesn’t understand how conception works? Is it Christine O’Donnell, she who dabbles in witchcraft? Or perhaps a “true” conservative is Rick Santorum who bows his head to the judgmental, hysterical Evangelical Right, caring more about what people do in their bedrooms than how our country is being spent into oblivion, or how our troops are dying so that a bunch of Arabs 6,000 miles away can have schools built just so they can be blown up by terrorists as soon as we leave.

        A true Conservative doesn’t get involved in foreign wars that don’t concern us. If the Iraqis want to live under Saddam Hussein, then let them have him and be damned. We don’t go spending our blood and treasure in a country that is meaningless to us, and if we do go to war, we don’t stick around to rebuild the damned place. Let them do it. A true Conservative trusts people to make their own decisions about their lives– that means not giving the slightest care about birth control, gay marriage, or abortion in the case of rape. What the hell is the government doing giving marriage licenses and tax breaks, anyway? Leave that to the religious institutions and stay the hell out of it.

        Perhaps most importantly, a true Conservative believes that history is an organic process that can’t be engineered or tinkered with without dire consequences. Read Burke’s “Reflections on the Revolution in France,” the arch-Conservative manifesto. Burke attacks the French Revolutionaries for trying to basically cut and paste the American Revolution onto France, despite the fact that they are two very different countries with two very different histories. He thoroughly torpedoes the notion that what was good for the US will be good for France, and that broad-scale engineering as was taking place in France would only lead to disaster. And guess what? They got Robespierre and the Reign of Terror, then the world got Napoleon Bonaparte. These neo-con fools need to realize that we need to mind our own damned business, stop trying to spread American democracy to populations that have no conception of it, and stop trying to turn the world into a clone of the US. It’s stupid, it’s fallacious, it’s dangerous, and it is not something Conservatives do. Any person who advocates military action, regime change, and nation building cannot be a Conservative, no matter how much they try to say otherwise. I mean, have any of these people really studied Conservatism? Have they read Ruskin, Carlyle, Burke, or Arnold? Have they read Madison, Jefferson, and, as a foil, Payne? Or do they just spout the nonsense that their hysterical constituents want to hear, ignoring the fact that today’s definition of Conservatism would be anathema to people like Coolidge, Jefferson, Madison, and others? I think not. They’re too busy trying to pray away the gay.

    • dabba

      I could not disagree with you more. The Tea Party is not the Republican’s problem, the Republicans are the Republican’s problem.

    • Gatortrapper

      You haven’t a clue friend. The Tea Party is used by both the left and unthinking people on the right as the “bogey man” for whatever missteps each has made. They (the Tea Party) haven’t done anything like you state as they lack the organizational strength to lift those weights. The choice of Angle or O’Donnell was the result of a larger electorate making a choice and any suggestion that the “Tea Party” had more influence on that than any other group is ludicrous. The TPM has more influence than my mother’s book club, but not much more; not as presently organized and operated. But if it makes you feel better to foist blame on them you sure can, and thereby give fuel to the narrative for the left.

    • deTocqueville1

      Tired old meme. Harry Reid had his reelection bought and paid for . The Tea Party took back the House with numbers not seen since the thirties and enlarged the number in the Senate. Try looking at facts instead of RINO propaganda.

  • ShaneF

    As he, Mark, said in this interview….”we had a republican congress a republican senate, and a republican president and they/we had the greatest spending increases until Obama.”
    That is a fact and HAS to be remembered when “republican” this or that is used a a solution to our fiscal woes.
    Conservative ideals are our only solution, period.
    I believe Mark used to be a “cookie-cutter” republican talk show host and was temporarily blinded by the friendships he had created, with what now is clearly evident, rinos in the republican party.
    He has appologized when he was wrong in backing certain politicians that have proved to be less than conservative.
    Mark is a straight shooter, he loves this country, and wont let rinos(or the like) use his forum to banter the milquetoast republican agenda to his audience. Thank GOD.

  • Ultracon

    Ryan’s Mickey Mouse agreement numbers are a drop in the bucket. Typical congressional smoke and mirrors. God help us all.

  • mark8302

    This is the equivalent of arguing over 55 cents on a restaurant bill and then leaving a $5 tip.

  • NSSA3Way

    I keep hearing that we can’t sustain all this mounting debt but we appear to be doing okay…if it’s not important enough to our government and those that control the check book, then just let them keep writing the checks…and each person prepare accordingly.

  • http://www.RestlessBoomers.com/ Restless Boomers

    Ryan the RINO and Murray the soccer mom in sneakers need to sneak back under the covers. This ‘Budget Deal’ is embarrassing to say the least.

    Do they think destroying America is a national sport?

    • bicentennialguy

      Put ‘em in a sack and shake ‘em. They are all alike.

    • Hopsaregood

      Basically they are trying to pick up the turd by the clean end.

  • CHERT38676

    ryan i guess have already been around too long….THIS GOVERNMENT MUST BE STOPPED IT MUST BE CUT! PERIOD!!!!!

    • $1227684

      TOO late.

  • TimB

    Marc was wrong about this being Micky Mouse. He should have related this to Wimpy who repeatedly said “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today”.

  • Iowan1959

    As Cheney said…deficits don’t matter.

  • Pro Farmer

    The problems in this country are really, really, easy to fix. The hard part is getting politicians to do it.

  • scarlet pimpernel

    By the government, for the government……….not for the People.

  • All American Male

    Paul Ryan’s budget deal has as its chief unspoken objective, locking in funding for ObamaCare and shutting down conservative opposition to it.

    The Ryan-Murray debacle does nothing significant about the debt or spending. It does nothing about entitlements. It raises taxes, particularly for airline passengers, and then pretends it’s not raising taxes. It rearranges some “deck chairs” on the sequester.

    But the central raison d’etre of the agreement is to ensure that, no matter how horrific ObamaCare gets, congressional conservatives can do nothing but dutifully pay for it.

    • No One Important

      It also undoes the sequester cuts.It’s worse than a bad deal.There was nothing wrong with passing continuing resolutions to fund the government at the current “locked” spending levels with the cuts in place.This is Ryan selling everyone down the river. . . .Thanks but no thanks Ryan.People in his district have to rally around his primary challenger and get rid of this guy!

      • Gatortrapper

        I’m going to withhold full judgment til I’ve read the bill. Are you?

        • No One Important

          Not when it is already being acknowledged that it undoes the sequester cuts.That was the best thing that has ever happened to Washington in years.actual cuts to spending. . . . I don’t need to “pass it to find out what’s in it” . . . .the definition of a stool sample. . . . .

          • Gatortrapper

            Well as a technical matter I don’t believe that it’s a cut in spending but a cut in the growth of spending. There has been no real nominal cut in spending in years as the amounts expended have grown annually, even during the lauded “surplus” years of the Clinton Administration. Heck you probably would have to go back to 46′ or 47′ to find a real reduction in spending.

            But the problem is no one reads the bills, but adopt the views of those who might (or not) read them that offer opinions that they like. That becomes reality and it’s not.

            • deTocqueville1

              It is a very minor cut to the rate of increase in spending. It is tinkering.

              • Gatortrapper

                Isn’t that what I said?

    • Gatortrapper

      I really doubt that the budget agreement has “locking in funding for ObamaCare” as a central goal. Most of the funding was including in the initial legislation and is self actuating.

      As repulsive as the notion of not immediately dealing with the budget deficit and national debt is to me, I am pragmatic enough to realize that we have to have the votes to get things done. Right now we are poised to reap the benefit of ObamaCare imploding and inflicting lots of casualties. Is it stupid to not stop it? Yes. Do we have the political capital to stop it? No. Not yet. We need to avoid giving the Dims another issue to shift voter attention away from ObamaCare. We have plenty to fight over and getting a 2 year budget deal that removes the GOP from being called “obstructionist” on the economy (which has alienated a lot of people) is good short term policy even it allows the problem to keep growing.

      • No One Important

        However, what is “pragmatic” about some budget deal that will undo the sequester cuts?What was wrong with continuing resolutions until after the November elections?That was fine for democrats – now this is a step backwards, authored by Ryan. . . .No thanks.The “pragmatic” in me says “continuing resolutions” until we have the votes in the senate. . . . . keep the cuts in place. Keep spending at the “locked” levels. . . don’t increase the spending.This is a bad, bad deal. . .all the way across the board. . .at our expense.

        • Gatortrapper

          Okay you know better than me. I concede. You know that absent an agreement there is no funding and the government shuts down. Okay. That’s fine. Make it permanent. You know better and apparently have greater insight and a real good crystal ball on this. You win.

        • deTocqueville1

          Pragmatism is generally used by these RINOs as a euphemism for surrender.

  • mwayne09

    If you like your h/c plan, you can keep your h/c plan . period..
    LIAR !

    ooops, I’m in the wrong thread.

  • toledojim

    This is a very bad deal for America and kicking the can down the road only makes our kids and grandkids future bleak at best. It’s just hard for me to understand how anyone, who calls themselves an American, can support what these Democrats and Obama are doing to America, but, I guess if you’re one of the millions who are being subsidized by the government, you won’t bite the hand that feeds you no matter what.

    • dmmg2517

      Obama hates America, that’s why he is running up debt, making deals with Iran, he is the ultimate swine of the earth

      • toledojim

        You’re right he views America as the bad guy, but, isn’t it just ironic that he has a life only he could imagine and in any other country he would be a nothing. It’s too bad that so many can’t see the hope and change he really brings to the table the misery he is creating for our kids and grandkids future.

        • dmmg2517

          He will have to answer to our God that he seems to omit from every aspect of his life. I agree with you 100%

          • toledojim

            I hope he answers to the citizens first and in 2014 his party gets whalloped at the voting booth.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    This is like bragging that you got a $50 rebate on a $40,000 car.

  • Hillary For Prison 2016

    So finally Paul Ryan sold his sole to Satan.

    • zonable

      It’s “soul”, but I get it, and so do many others. Yes, Ryan is a Quisling.

    • 24601

      I understand what you’re saying. Unfortunately there’s no polite way to point out that s-o-l-e is a fish or the bottom of a shoe and s-o-u-l is the essence of one’s being.

    • JudithChezElle

      He sold his shoe to Satin? Or did you perhaps mean his “soul”.
      Your ignorance of spelling is as profound as your ignorance of
      political reality.

    • GriffKS

      Or, maybe Satan needed some shoe repair?

      • deTocqueville1

        Hah, hah.

  • No One Important

    There was nothing wrong with continuing resolutions that kept the current sequester cuts in place until after the November elections.In other words, Paul Ryan is shafting us.If the republicans agree not to shut down the government. . .there is no threat there. . . . .but Ryan builds a deal that undoes the cuts, when a continuing resolution at the current spending levels (been used for the last 5 years when the democrats didn’t want the emergency “one time” spending stopped)The Ryan cheerleaders on this board are seriously misguided.No we don’t have the votes in the senate. . . . .but we don’t have to give away the sequester cut wins. . . .This is a bogus deal, no matter how many times you cheerlead for Ryan.He’s undoing cuts when continuing resolutions would have kept the status quo. . . . . .Yea, thanks but no thanks RINOs. . . .

  • zonable

    Ryan is no more a conservative than John McCain wants to really build that border fence.

    Thank you, Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, for all you’re trying to do, in spite of the Quislings in your midst.

  • Reason8200

    Paul Ryan counts savings forever, on a program that is cut. More fuzzy math.

    • 24601

      Could be worse — fuzzy meth would be pretty horrible.

  • Reader11722

    RINOs, yet another violation of our rights. The gov’t constantly violates our rights.

    They violate the 1st Amendment by caging protesters and banning books like “America Deceived II”.

    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by allowing TSA to grope you.

    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars.

    Impeach Obama.

    Last link of “America Deceived II” before it is completely banned:

    http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

  • sammy

    Do any of you hardliners think the Dem’s are not salivating over another government shutdown? You seem to think the status quo of just keeping the sequestration cuts in place is somehow an option? It isn’t. Those cuts were agreed to originally by the Dems ONLY because they thought they would never happen. Now that they know Reps want them to continue, the Dems will gleefully allow another shutdown and blame republicans for it and will just wait for Reps to cave once again (which they will because the American people have shown time and time again they’ll blame the republicans). There is NO option of just staying in the current status-quo since the last continuing resolution soon will expire.

    • deTocqueville1

      Ah yes, constant weakness and surrender, what a brilliant strategy!

  • jimbo3298

    There is no such thing as ‘permanent cuts’ in DC. The sequester was the law until you decided to change it. What’s to keep these ‘permanent’ cuts from being changed again.

    • deTocqueville1

      Exactly.

  • REVÖ

    If Levin has such brilliant ideas how about he runs for Congress. He badmouthed Ron Paul (a true statesman) for his time in Congress and his views so how about this loudmouth takes a shot at it. Talk is cheap. So is Levin.

    • No One Important

      Still whining about Ron Paul?Grow up. . .get over it. Ron Paul lost in caucuses all across the nation, and not because the whole nation listens to Levin. . . .Get real. . . .

    • Gatortrapper

      Look if you want to find fault with someone or something you can as perfection eludes all of us. I thought Levin was appropriate in his tone and the questions he asked. And he realized that his strengths don’t play well in DC but in other zip codes. I credit him for being an informed critic offering alternative choices of policy to be discussed.

      • REVÖ

        If I want to find fault? Tell that to Levin. He seems to make a profession out of that. He seems to be unable to find fault with himself.

        • Gatortrapper

          Whatever

    • deTocqueville1

      Ron Paul is irrelevant.

      • REVÖ

        That is an interesting comment from someone who claims to know about de tocqueville.

    • 1NonPermissive

      Revo wanted drugs legalized, the Paul lovers main dream.

      • REVÖ

        Ad Hominem fail.

    • vidgamenerd

      still butthurt? We The People blame you Ron Paulians for the second term of OFailure.Your being butthurt and not going to the polls and voting for the best candidate in Nov 2012 gave us the ACA…I sincerely hope you are one of the people who have lost their insurance because you deserve it for that failure to vote.My guy in that race was Herman Cain.He was undercut by your boy and John Huntsman,but that did not stop me from voting for the best person available on Nov 6 2012. You Loser……..

      • REVÖ

        You blame us? That’s cute. You The People (and by that I mean You The Ignorant) couldn’t find the Constitution with a compass and a map. I am the People. I am the Constitution. Read a book. Learn something. Romney would have been no different. Religious nut bags and the “moral majority” are the ones who you can blame for the republicans losing the election.

        • vidgamenerd

          Yes you are a person,one of a group that is butthurt, who let their political ideology run over all concerns of the greater good of the country.so yes you are a butthurt,selfish,self centered,egotistical little flaccid pri*k of a human being,who still looks and acts just like the one from the opposite side of the fence that currently resides in the White House..My little faction is right an the rest of you can go to hell…that sums up libtards and it also sums up most of Ron Paul’s supporters….good luck in your Mom’s baesment.

  • Amjean

    I am no fan of Paul Ryan, however, in this instance I think the budget agreement
    is a good thing. The elections are coming up in less than a year and republicans
    hope to take back the senate and keep the house. Now is no time for another
    protracted fight whereby the media will surely blame republicans.

    • No One Important

      There was nothing wrong with passing a continuing resolution to keep the sequester cuts in place.See? Wasn’t that easy?Don’t be an apologist for a bad deal. . . . .The continuing resolution out past the November elections would have taken the issue off the table. . and left the sequester cuts in place.Personally? I hope the conservative house members jam this up his nose. . . .for undoing a hard fought/won small victory in cutting some measure of Washington spending. . .

      • sammy

        “There was nothing wrong with passing a continuing resolution to keep the sequester cuts in place.”

        nothing, except for the fact that the Dems were never going to agree to that.

        • sammy

          …. and certainly Obama was not going to agree to that.

        • No One Important

          Wanna bet?They’ve repeatedly agreed to it. . .over and over. . . .If they shut it down. . .let them take the hit then. . . .This is a cop out, to cover for the fact that Ryan is selling us down the river with a bad deal. . . .As I said. . .I hope the conservative members shove this up Ryan’s nose for undoing the cuts in Washington. . . .If I’m his challenger, I’m writing the ads already portraying him as a “big government” politician. . . . no matter how many times Ryan plays the “it’s not my fault”. . then I would say “what was wrong with the continuing resolutions that you’ve all repeatedly signed on to, that keeps the government cuts in place? Hmmmm?

          • sammy

            “f they shut it down. . .let them take the hit then. . ”

            Where have you been the last 3 years??? The Dems have NEVER taken the hit for government shutdowns regardless of the circumstances. They own the majority of the media and the president has the bully pulpit. Show me a single case where Obama or any Dem president has lost politically on a govt shutdown. The media will NOT give equal time to any Rep trying to give a reasoned explanation of who is really to blame.

          • sammy

            “They’ve repeatedly agreed to it. . .over and over”. .

            Continuing resolutions yes, painfull sequester cuts, no. Only the last CR had sequester cuts which the Dems never thought would happen.

        • deTocqueville1

          Stick with a good deal or no deal. The continued Sequester is better than Ryan’s sell out with the radical leftist Murray.

          • sammy

            No deal means a govt shutdown. And who do you think will win that, not even considering that the media will completely shift focus away from Obamacare to the “evil” republicans trying once again to starve grandma and kill children???.

      • Amjean

        I don’t consider myself an apologist. My approach is pragmatic.

    • deTocqueville1

      This is a very bad deal which continues the Country’s slide (or is it headlong rush) into bankruptcy.

      • Amjean

        You miss the political point. We are very close to gaining
        seats in the house and taking over control of the senate.
        A bipartisan deal does not make the republicans look bad
        close to an election. We have had enough bad press over
        the last shutdown. Take your angst out by voting out the
        bastards in 2014. Focus on the end game.

  • dmmg2517

    It does no good to cut spending later if president monkey can spend more now

  • TheHof

    Marc Levin thought “We’re the party of lower taxes and less government” was a winning slogan to lure Latino voters. Haven’t seen many of them with pitchforks in the streets over that rallying cry.

    • deTocqueville1

      Hence, thus?

      • TheCarCzar

        Hence, they would rather have the hand-out than fiscal responsibility

  • TxSagebrush

    I would also like to be able to snap our fingers get things done our way. But that is NEVER going to happen IF we keep shooting ourselves in the foot, We have to take over the Senate First. And we need to get a veto-proof House, which is not as likely, in order to do so. The deal Paul Ryan has made is temporary IF we get back in power. It’s not giving them everything they want. It’s time to think about the next election and not a short-term deal which would be promptly vetoed by the president anyway. Use some common sense, for heavens’ sake!! IOW’s…..don’t give them something that enables Obama and Dems the opportunity to CHANGE the subject over to those big, bad Republicans and away from Obamacare.

    • deTocqueville1

      Same tired old RINO line. Gingrich was very effective but of course he had the will to fight Clinton who was, incidentally, in a much stronger political position at the time than OZero is now.

      • TxSagebrush

        Clinton had enough good sense to know when he was beaten….and then cooperated. He listened to the people when that happened. Obama is too arrogant for that. He would let the country go to hell in a handbasket first! IF Republicans are willing to ‘sit it out’ on the sidelines for the next 3 years—then go ahead and make the budget an issue again, and take that focus off of Obamacare again.

    • jimbo3298

      We do have to think about the next election, so how is pissing off your base going to help the Republicans in the next election?

      • TxSagebrush

        The base needs to be more realistic and stop demanding that Republicans do everything all at once. It isn’t going to happen that way! You’re only helping the Dems when you do that. Why do you think they LOVE it so much when the Republican base does this? Come on….you gotta be political smart too. Or else, we lose…..again!

        • jimbo3298

          The Republican’s strategy seems to be based on fear. They fear the press more than they fear their base. I doubt a government shutdown in January is going to have much impact on the midterms in November. Midterms are usually about whose side does a better job of turning out their base. The base knows the Republicans can’t win every fight right now but they do want to see some fight and know that they are serious about scaling back the size and scope of government. This compromise doesn’t do that, the Republicans look weak.

          • TxSagebrush

            What are the specifics of the proposal is it that you don’t like….and don’t think we should accept?
            AND, you DO realize, don’t you, that if we take the Senate, we can do what we want regarding spending from then on. Especially since Reid has handed us a filibuster-proof Senate.

            • jimbo3298

              Short term spending for long term spending cuts. This is always how the democrats get us, they ask for an infusion of immediate spending and any long term cuts they can change later.

              I’m all about taking the senate but how realistic is that going to be if you can’t turn out the base. You must take care of your base first. No one understands this better than the Democrats.

              • TxSagebrush

                BUT….the spending they are agreeing to remember is SHORT TERM!! That means it expires shortly. This just gets us through the moment….and allows us to concentrate on the 2014 election without getting dragged into the “aren’t Republicans just awful” demonizing that will surely take place.

                • jimbo3298

                  And that short term spending will be used to placate their base and keep them happy. They get to say to their constituents, hey look at the pork I brought for ya. What do Republicans get to tell their base? Look, I caved again.

    • Fatback2

      Wake up TXSagebrush. Republicans held the majority of both houses and the white house just a few short years ago. They proved that they would not or could not lead. Voting for someone just because they have an R by their name will only result in more of th same. McConnell, Boehner, McCain, Graham, King, Ryan, Cantor and the other career republicans have proved that they are only interested in remaining part of the elitist DC establishment. Until they are replace with responsible individuals it will not change regardless of which party has control.

      • TxSagebrush

        When EXACTLY was that??? Last time Republicans held the majority of both houses was at the beginning of 2001….for FOUR MONTHS!!! And that majority was by ONE.
        I have a feeling there are some Democrats here pushing for EXACTLY what you are pushing for. I won’t be suckered in to that!

        • Fatback2

          Inform yourself before you make statements.Dennis Hastert Speaker of The House & Bill Frist Senate Majority Leader Jan. 3rd 2003 to Jan. 3rd 2007 ( not counting the time you pointed out before Jumpin Jim Jeffords switched parties). So continue to get suckered by the career republican elitist and all of their unfulfilled promises.

          • TxSagebrush

            I stand corrected. Yes, there were a couple of time periods in recent years. And yes, I’ll agree that the Republicans don’t act as Democrats do when they are leading……like jamming a multi-Trillion program down the throats of the American people even when they are saying they don’t want it…..against the will of the people. Bush tried hard to include Democrats; Obama could care less about including the other side. And Obama’s supporters were just too stupid to realize they were being lied to about Obamacare…..and believed they could get something for nothing. I’m ALL for getting rid of the “old Guard” of some of these Republicans who have been in office way too long. There’s a lot in the Democrat party that needs to go too. I just don’t want to keep shooting ourselves in the foot in the process.

            • Fatback2

              Vote out all career politicians regardless of party affiliation. The late Senator from PA Arlen Spector is a perfect example of what drives them once they become part of the DC frat house. Byrd and Thurmond also are great examples. Their minds gone to the point that they did not even know what planet they were on, permanent residence at military hospital except when their was a vote on the senate floor. Good from all three can probably be pointed out, but would South Carolina not have been better served if someone that did not get his wars mixed up had been serving instead of Strom at 100 years of age? One more Ted Kennedy. Would anyone else have got off so easy if they drove their Oldsmobile off a bridge and left a young lady to die?

  • Dale

    Republicans are really no different than the Democrats. They are the two most corrupt special interests groups in our country.

    • 1Mojo_Risin9

      The HELL they’re the same, democrats are World class schmucks!!!

  • SimpleMan

    Progressives have always been willing to take a long term view…Progressives have for almost 100 years been wiling to trade short term spending cuts for small, ling term, mandatory spending increases…its how we find ourselves in the financial conundrum; we are passionate about addressing the issue immediately, but its an issue that’s been created over 100 years…as much as I want to drive spending down now, I think a trade of a short term spending increase for a long term mandatory spending decrease that will affect the budget in a CAGR fashion is actually turning the Progressive model against them…but, I certainly hold the same lack of trust that republicans will hold the line on the long term mandarory cuts in the future.

  • 1Mojo_Risin9

    I can see where Levin is coming from, with the likes of Obama and the democrats, this budget deal can be usurped in a heartbeat and there will be no savings, just the status quo! This deal sounds so convoluted the escape hatches will be ubiquitous, democrats will be in high clover, feasting off the taxpayer and deficit spending!!!

    • Gatortrapper

      Pure speculation until you’ve read and analyzed the deal. Until then you’re guessing. That doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but right now its a guess.

      • olddog

        OK..10 to 1… IT SUCKS…just another “go along to get along” thingy…ya know.

        • Gatortrapper

          Where did you get your crystal ball? Absent which you are just commenting for the sake of putting something down. That’s why I advocate actually reading the content.

          • 1Mojo_Risin9

            Apparently, there’s no deal, no room for criticism until you approve, you’re the final arbiter!

            • Gatortrapper

              Ha, ha. I wish. Your sarcasm is noted. Not productive or of value, but noted. I guess my comments need to be parsed by you first before I can post them. Where do I send them in the future, with apologies for not having cleared this one with you in advance?

              • 1Mojo_Risin9

                YOU replied to my post with your all-knowing scold, remember that!!!

                • Gatortrapper

                  Point made.

          • olddog

            My bookie Smart @ZZ..It’s a BET, (D)ING-BAT. Now tell us the outcome of Obagger No-care, and the continuing 30,000 pages of NEW STUFF…hourly…Think this JUNK budget agreement will EVER be DONE so someone CAN READ IT????

            • Gatortrapper

              Seems to me that everyone wants to be a “junkyard” dog that attacks anyone or idea that walks by the compound. Not the the type of attitude conducive to change but preservation of the status quo. And knee jerk opposition and use of excuses to avoid the deep dives necessary to be able to make informed decisions is one example of the dogs at work.

              • olddog

                uh..attack (D)oggie…”Where did you get your crystal ball”…nice try…Your lack of humor indicates the mentality of a “junkyard” dog. Have a “Hoax and Chains” day…

      • Not Bob

        With the out of control obfuscation in the federal budget even those who wrote the bill are guessing. If history is our guide then the result of this will be just as this is to the sequester, revised next year to amount to no spending cuts at all.

        This is why projected spending is nothing but a lie, its a projection or a guess about the future spending and it always shows reductions, the reality though is that we always see increases. Let history be your guide!

        • Gatortrapper

          I’m not the enemy. My disgust with spending is no less than your own. But arguing over the plan of action is a recipe for more of what we’ve been getting so far.

          Since when is it unreasonable to suggest that actually reading the enabling language is a bad place to begin thoughtful discussions over its content? It’s bad enough that people form opinions based on hearsay and rumor but when one starts getting flack from even suggesting that it might be a good thing to read the bill then I know the larger population is dysfunctional.

          American’s want someone who speaks with authority, confident in what they say is what they are intending on doing. You start with people who know what’s in the bill and fully disclose the good and the bad. Ryan appears to be one such person. The way to confirm it is to read the bill and see if it matches what he said. If you want to take him to task thereafter and can do so with reference to the bill then that’s fine. But what’s wrong with reading the bill?

          • Not Bob

            Since it became apparent that the political leadership doesn’t read any bills content rather they might have staffers read the bill and provide them with talking points.

            It also is irrelevant as multiple entities in the government consider bills passed through congress to be mere suggestions as to how they should behave not laws to be followed.

            Ultimately you view the bills contents as something that will actually have an impact and is important, I view it as propaganda used to suggest that the bill is going to change things yet in the end it will not.

            I am not against reading the bill and discussing it but I view it with a highly skeptical eye In my view you could just as easily read the horoscope section of the newspaper and gain just as little insight into the future

            Its not that I see you as the enemy but I do see the suggested solution to read the bills contents as pointless for the following reasons: 1) if the bills content is good there is almost zero chance it will make it through congress unscathed. 2) if the bill is something I do not like there is nothing I can do about it. 3) There are other bills or amendments that will be attached just prior to the bills passing that can and do completely alter its meaning and intent just prior to passage. 4) reading the bill in isolation tells us nothing, it may match his words exactly yet be modified by existing law, be modified by congress before passage or be thwarted by department policy before implementation.

            • Gatortrapper

              Well I guess if I was really more interested in preserving the status quo then your explanation would be as good a rationale to use as any. Sadly this what the state of affairs has devolved into. Maybe full scale revolution is what is necessary to effect change. I mean, if no one is willing to actually read the thing why even go through the motions? Might as well just settle it with guns and ammo and see who has the most and is willing to use them.

              I think I’m just going to withdraw from all of this and just make sure my skills are honed for the day when they need to be employed.

              • Not Bob

                My apologies for being a bit overly dramatic but the argument of “vote the bums out” is the same thing; a pointless gesture that simply installs new faces into the machine but it doesn’t change the machine.

                When 2600 pages of healthcare law were passed and Pelosi argued we needed to pass the bill to find out whats in it,the charade was exposed as the fraud that it is – nothing but Kabuki theater. The debt limit debates are similarly just kabuki theater meant to occupy the news cycle and entertain the masses while the real work that government does happens in private.

                I also fear that revolution may be the only way to change it from its current fascists path.

                • Gatortrapper

                  It’s the old 80/20 rule with a twist. The 20 % are divided into two camps (mostly) and the 80 % remaining are just there for the ride: until their “fish bowl” existence is disturbed. Then they come out like hornets, sting those they find closest to the nest and then retreat, not knowing what was wrong, why they were disturbed and just angry if the hive is damaged. The only way they will stay out is if it no longer sustains their life, and everything is lost. Such is life.

      • Laurel

        Burden of proof is on them.

        • Benjamin Wyatt

          How can the burden of proof be on them, when someone (not necessarily speaking specifically to you) who refuses to see what is in the bill and has already concluded that the bill is worthless. What is seems like some people are saying is that they don’t want to read the bill, and have already concluded that Ryan is a liar thus no matter what he says people are going to say it is handout to the dems and that Ryan is a traitor.

          • Laurel

            We hire them to do a budget and be fiscally responsible in running the country so the burden of proof that this is a good budget is on them. If it is a compromise they must say why and convince people they had to and that it was the right thing to do.

            • Benjamin Wyatt

              Once again not speaking specifically about you. When you won’t read the budget and you concluded that anyone advocating for it is a liar and traitor then saying that the burden is on the them creates safe feedback loop where one can hate the budget and never have worry about being uncomfortable about being wrong.

              • Laurel

                Regardless the burden is still on them…that is what it is when you live in a Republic.

                People are judging the budget by the only tools they have been allowed to judge it by for decades…and that is what the politicians and media have given them. If they don’t like that it is automatically rejected before accepted…well too bad. They created the circumstances of the fish bowl they live and work in as well as polluted the water.

                Oddly enough based upon behavior of politicians I can tell you that budget sucks without ever even reading it. Why? Because Ryan did what all politicians do and put his best talking points and budget points forward and buried the worst. His best points are simply not good enough.

                The increase in short term spending alone is a big suck up to Democrats. Democrats need that short term increase to buy votes for the next election. This budget just based upon the talking points is nothing more than same sh** different day. In the mean time you still have Fed pumping money into a propped up stock market while devaluing the dollar…now apply that to current world events. Understand the chess pieces being put into place.

  • Guest

    just SIGN the S H I T so we can go HOME…that’s the reason for RYAN and that thing named Patty pushing this bill.

    • sammy

      The purpose of this deal (given that Obama is a radical who will not agree to spending cuts that he actually thinks will happen) is to keep the govt open and the heat off the republicans so that the ONLY issue between now and then is the unfolding Obamacare disaster. You may not like that but it is a very sound political strategy. The independent voters who decide elections have unfortunately shown repeatedly they care more about govt shutdowns than spending cuts.

  • Brian Bush

    Mark is right in the only solution to defeating the ruling class tyranny lies with the states and article 5 is our best tool, but thanks to our founders, it’s not the only tool. The states also control the election process which the statist have used to their advantage. We should be pushing states to require absolute transparency in direct campaign funding and barring, under penalty of law, all foreign funds, including companies, banks, organizations, unions, etc. that are or have subsidiaries or branches or receive funding from outside the the United States. Companies such as G.E.,and GM are not American but are global corporations and as a consequence they should have not financial involvement in political campaigns in our country.

  • robert stuart

    Often we find ourselves needing to take a step back or sideways in order to position ourselves to move forward more dramatically — Democrats know this but Republicans just do not. Sad and destructive for America.

  • Paul

    Congress is so FULL OF CRAP!

  • eyedrs54

    Good news the GOP agreed to slow our slide into ruin by 128 minutes.

  • Benjamin Wyatt

    The biggest problem with both the left and the right in politics right now is that the very loud wings of the individual parties want to have everything they want right now and any negotiation is treated as treasonous. Even if he wanted to Paul Ryan could never pass a budget, with the current President and Senate that meets the Tea Party( to which Levin belongs) demands. However, any giving in to any aspect of the what the Democrats want label him has a RINO and not worthy of regard.

    • eyedrs54

      When one side wants to cut spending and the other wants to greatly increase it and they compromise is to increase it just slightly slower…how is that anything close to a conservative ideal? Basically compromise means the GOP becomes liberal just at a slightly slower rate?

      • Benjamin Wyatt

        Sometimes when you are in the minority you have to take what you can. Nor does Ryan claim his budget increases costs. In fact he talked about shifting costs away from the taxpayer and onto the user. He talked about preserving the military budget, and acknowledged that in order to create a budget he was going to have to negotiate when it came to domestic spending.

        • eyedrs54

          How about when they are the majority? They compromised then also. This budget deal cuts under 50 Billion from projected increases. When one sides wants a negative and the other wants a high positive and the compromise is 100% in the positive the negative side will be eliminated and the positive will receive exactly what they wanted.

          • Benjamin Wyatt

            When you are in the majority, negotiations should heavily benefit the majority’s philosophical approach. If when Republicans are in the majority and still don’t prioritize cutting spending, I would be inclined to argue that wailing and gnashing of teeth over the budget and spending is quite hypocritical. Both Parties are obsessed with spending it just depends on what kind of spending.

            • Laurel

              What majority?

              • Benjamin Wyatt

                Presumably the Republican Party will be in the majority again in the future just as they have in the past.

                • Pamela

                  The GOP will be dead, if they pass AMNESTY.

                  Millions of GOP voters have already made it clear, if they betray us again for ILLEGALS, we have no use for them. No reason to vote for TRAITORS.

                • Benjamin Wyatt

                  I don’t know Regan voted for amnesty and seems to being doing alright in conservative circles. Not saying we should have amnesty, just saying it did not appear to destroy the Party the wake of Regan.

                • eyedrs54

                  Read up on what Reagan actually agreed to on the “amnesty” deal when a small faction of the number of illegal immigrants were here compared to now. Reagan fell victim to the compromise that liberals get their part of the deal now and conservatives part comes with time…only to have future presidents not follow through. Reagan later said he regretted the deal as it was written and feels it was a blunder that he would not repeat. Many people argue that it also changed how he negotiated going forward. He learned; the GOP forgot.

        • Laurel

          You are one of the millions that has absolutely no clue what the debt and the Fed are doing to your earnings and the dollar…but you will.

          • Benjamin Wyatt

            If you say so. However I suspect you are one of those folks that makes direct comparisons between a household budget and the federal budget.

            • Laurel

              Then you would suspect wrong.

              • Benjamin Wyatt

                That’s good. Unfortunately based on your original comment I have no way of knowing how you have concluded what the debt and the Fed are going to do to my earnings.

                • Laurel

                  So in other words you are on here talking about budgets, compromise, political parties, majorities and minorities in regards to the budget but are clueless as to how those things effect you or the every man. If you weren’t then you would of understood the comment.

                • Benjamin Wyatt

                  Considering there is no consensus as to how dire the budgetary or debt level currently is to the overall health of the economy it is difficult to determine how you drew the conclusion you did. You simply tossed out a conclusion without any context what so ever and then expected the reader to know the context.

                • Laurel

                  There is no consensus???

                  Unless you are a Keynesian economist that even Keynes himself wouldn’t agree with then there is consensus.

                • Benjamin Wyatt

                  Now I see, you are saying that all neo-liberal economists agree. Fair enough, if only all economists were neo-liberal. What you mean is that of the group you choose to believe that they are in consensus. Color me less then impressed that you have found a way to confirm your already held beliefs about a subject.

    • Pamela

      You vote for the party that will stop the other party. That is why we have a 3 tier government. Check & balances. We voted for the GOP, to STOP the American hating Dems, not to become them.

      • Benjamin Wyatt

        However, their is a difference between negotiating a budget which needs to get done annually and simply joining the enemy. However, too many people seem to think that if anyone agrees to do anything that makes a Dem happy then they are traitors to the cause.

  • pbtruth

    Harry Reid said that Boehner would cave. He did not cave he never pulled his chair up to the table and let Ryan sale the conservatives down the river. At this point I would not be surprised to see Obama come back and say he wants amnesty or more taxes included or he will tell the MSM to start the old tag saying Republicans wont deal with me and are shutting down the government. And then of course the Republicans will cave and give it to him. Why don’t they realize that it is not that they shut down the government it is because they always show no backbone. They end up losing the right and they will never get the left to vote for them and the independents rightfully believe they have no convictions. By the way, Ryan is lying about no taxes, per the SCOTUS John Roberts fees,fines are the same as taxes.

    • Benjamin Wyatt

      But they are still not the same as taxes. End users paying for their own costs via a fee is not the same as the taxpayer paying for something they are not using themselves.

      • pbtruth

        Don’t tell me, tell John ( Barack Obama is my Messiah) Roberts.

  • Paul

    Thanks for holding Ryan’s feet to the fire Mark! He sounded like a liberal used car salesman! This kind of thinking and math only makes sense to Millionaire Congressmen! Insane

  • http://www.leaguelineup.com/docs DocBarry1

    Again, obama’s administration lies and the House talks tough and does nothing

    the dems initiate the nuclear option and the Repubs talk tough and do nothing

    The budget deal is another example of a give away to the Dems and to show again that the Republicans like Ryan, Cantor, Boehner must be thrown out of their leadership positions or the House Republicans will also be talking tough but doing absolutly nothing

  • http://politicalknow.blogspot.com/ SheerPolitics

    Mark is so good at plowing through the BS to get to the basic facts.

  • ALTILLA

    As usual, the “conservatives” cave

    • Pamela

      No. Just the RINOS. Spkr. John Boehner and Rep. Paul Ryan are working in conjunction with the Democrats.

      They are rushing through this deal, so they can get to Spkr Boehner’s and Rep. Paul Ryan’s real jewel of all betrayals, AMNESTY for ILLEGALS.

      Spkr John Boehner just hired PRO-ILLEGAL ALIEN AMNESTY Becky Tallent to lead the charge for ILLEGALS, and get their AMNESTY.

      BECKY TALLENT is the same TRAITOR, that helped to draft the MCCAIN/KENNEDY AMNESTY a few years back. We the American people shut down the Capital switchboard screaming, “NO AMNESTY!!!!! NO AMNESTY NOW!!!! NO AMNESTY, EVER!!!” But, our CORRUPT GOVERNMENT does not care about WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

      These TRAITORS are bent on flooding our country with TENS OF MILLIONS of ILLEGAL & LEGAL HISPANIC & ASIAN IMMIGRANTS, who VOTE FOR SOCIALISTS DEMOCRATS.

      If the GOP knows, that the majority of HISPANICS & ASIANS predominantly VOTE, AGAINST THEM, what does that tell you? That the GOP wants a SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT. They are importing not just CHEAP LABOR, but FUTURE SOCIALIST VOTERS to overwhelm our American culture, and FREEDOMS.

      Keep ignoring what these low life TRAITORS are doing with MASS ILLEGAL & LEGAL IMMIGRATION, at the detriment of your American children, and grandchildren.

      NO AMNESTIES!!

      I am not off topic, because this is why Traitor Paul Ryan wants to clear the table, to set up for AMNESTY.

      • ALTILLA

        It was not that long ago that Ryan was touted as a “conservative savior”. Rubio and others if memory serves.

        • $71605537

          Neocons touting another Neocon as being a Conservative means exactly nothing.

    • phil

      this is not the same Ryan Who ran for vice president…..

  • jimini9

    It’s sad how a year or so ago, Paul Ryan performed like James Madison and today he’s Vladimir Lenin. He must’ve been converted to a Squish by hanging around for six months with Romney’s millionaire Super Bowl-type RINO “advisors”. Or maybe he became a near-socialist when he viewed the wheelchair over the cliff ad, run by people who actually know how to win a political campaign. Patty Murray represents the party of wheelchair pushers. In this colossally cowardly budget deal, Paul was “rolled”. He was in the wheelchair and Patty was doing the pushing.

  • Marineaks

    It looks like Ryan is just trying to get past the 2014 elections without alienating more independents.

  • eyedrs54

    We now consider a compromise as “okay don’t torture me to death just bleed me to death”. The end result is no compromise: you’re dead.

  • MrSmithInDC

    ryan also believes the warming is causing the cooling.

    • TheCarCzar

      Classic Goreism

  • phil

    the failure of the GOP to make Obama comply with his “own” sequestration proposal (remember this is :”his” idea) is beyond incompetence,

  • doctorivy

    The difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is like the difference between McDonalds and Burger King. The GOP isn’t interested in fixing America. It’s only interested in winning. And since the Dems have been winning they think the way to win is to mimic the Dems. How stupid, short-sighted, and craven.

    • phil

      another difference,

      the Libs are focusing to win legislatively, and the Stupid GOP is focusing to win politically (which they rarely accomplish) so to get more useless politicians who will get to the cameras and “explain” why “this time” we cant cut this or that…..

  • Chester Simms

    Am I the only one who thinks that this is ridiculous and imbecilic! That Ryan said all of this with a straight face.

    Yesterday Drudge reported that both Obama and Boehner were happy with this. That should’ve told us all.

    • TheCarCzar

      Happy, happy, happy Duck lemmings need to go!

  • Echo Star

    Mark is the Great One and he was right to hold Ryan’s feet to the fire, but at the same time, all of you that are so quick cut down Ryan need to realize that he’s one of the very few people with the skills and the desire to address the budget problem. He is negotiating from a very weak position, with Obama in the WH, Reid controlling the Senate, and way too many GOPers in the House willing to play along with the Dems to keep their positions.

    If it were up to me, we’d be making deep cuts to entitlements and go through the pain now so that we avoid an utter disaster down the road, however, this will never pass and if it did nd BO with the press would use it to kill conservatives at the mid-terms.

    On this matter, I stand with Ryan. The only path to victory is to hold the line now, parlay the Omamacare disaster into a decisive mid-term election win and build momentum towards a ’16 presidential victory.

    On the contrary, insisting on deep cuts now and risking another shutdown, is a sure path to defeat. It will give BO relief from Obamacare, the press will crucify the GOP, and the opportunity for a mid-term victory will be lost.

    • TheCarCzar

      We need to grow a pair and stand for something clear, unequivocal and important that voting Americans can vocally join:.

      As affluent as we might appear, IMO a “back to basics” freedom campaign rings true.

      • Echo Star

        I totally agree with your comment, and we are on the same side of the battle, but the question is not one of goals or even strategy, it is one of tactics.

        This is not going to be an overnight victory, but it could be an overnight death if we continue to go all-in all the time. We have to pick the right battles at the right time.

        WWII in the European theater had a clear strategy to overthrow the Third Reich, but that doesn’t mean we parachute the entire army into Berlin on December 8th, ’41. It took careful planning and picking the right battles at the right time to lead to victory.

        All the best,

        • TheCarCzar

          Echo Star: We need a real leader, someone the MSM, others dare not tarnish less they been tarnished beyond repair. An Ike Eisenhower-like figure comes to mind.

          • Echo Star

            I totally agree that strong leadership is THE key and is far more important than where on the conservative spectrum his/her views lie, within reason.

    • TheCarCzar

      Respectfully, what you call entitlements are taxes that have been paid for by every day working men and women. These cannot be taken away -“Period” – less the GOP go the way of the dinosaurs they seem hell-bent on following off the political cliff. Talk about Scrooge!

      • Echo Star

        Respectfully, you are incorrect. First, the taxes paid in are not equal to entitlements being doled out otherwise we wouldn’t have $90+t in unfunded liabilities. Second the entitlements will be cut, either proactively in an intelligent orchestrated manner or when the entire system collapses. This is not a projection this is an unavoidable outcome. The math doesn’t lie and there are no cases in history, ever, where a country has survived perpetual overspending. Period.

  • Steve

    Dear fellow conservatives. As much as I would like to have a budget that cuts spending, reduces tax rates (which increase revenues), fix Social Security, fix Medicare, get a real health care reform bill and get rid of useless govt. agencies like Commerce, Interior, the EPA, etc., we all have to remember something important, we only control a very small part of the government. Do you think Patty Murray will EVER agree to reduce taxes? Do you think Obama will ever agree to any common sense fixes to the ACA? Do you think Harry and Nancy will ever want to fix SS or Medicare? The only way to get these things done is to continue to put up good candidates and win elections.
    I have the utmost respect for these conservative organzations and the Tea Party. However, one must also be a pragmatist. Closing the govt. down and threatening default only hurts the conservatives chances of retaking the govt. The key now is to increase the majority in the House and take back the Senate.
    Take this small deal and work on a bigger one WHEN WE HAVE CONTROL.

    • eyedrs54

      Which will be when? Not 2014 (kinda need the whitehouse)…How about 2016 (take power in 17) are we assuming we will then? To a level the Dems won’t just fillabuster and blame the GOP despite being in the majority and having the WH as being “too rigid” so we pass something like this again? That is also assuming we win the WH in 2016. Dems with their media will fight and the GOP will ALWAYS be the too rigid to bad side whether in majority, minority or even mix. The GOP will never have house, senate, and WH with a super-majority in the senate because of how the electoral map is. You will be waiting a very long time my friend.

    • phil

      interesting that i dont see the same kind of thinking on the lib side,

      they never ask, Do you think that the GOP will EVER fund Obamacare ??? or will they EVER raise taxes,

      NO!!!!

      and here lies the problem, when you deal with a group of people who dont give hoot about saving the titanic, then why exactly should we let ourselves to get our clock cleaned time and again????

    • aquaroyale

      They had their chance before and they would not. Why do you think they will now?

    • oldspeak

      The Democrats shut down the government when they threw a temper tantrum for not getting exactly what they wanted. And as for the threat of default, that was a threat made by Democrats. Despite the claim that it would be Republicans who would do so, debt interest payments are made from the treasury, which is controlled by Obama and the Democrats. Not only is it unconstitutional to skip a payment, but it would come as a direct order from Obama. You are either an Obama troll or you get your news from the NYT. Either way, I’m thinking that’s a troll.
      How do we get control if we give them what they want, exactly? Telling us to be a pragmatist about it is the same as saying to vote for John McCain. Thanks, but no thanks.

  • Doc Clear

    Looks like Mark is officially an Independent. And I’m to the Right of HIM. At least 20% of the country has some sort of principles. We live in an unconstitutional Media run circus. It’s sad that the REAL Constitution can only get 20% of the country. We’re dead as a nation.

    • heidigirl

      TAX REVOLT! NOW! our tax money is needed, before the politicians can do anything. if nobody gets paid,to enforce the law see how soon things change. we must rise up, saying PLEASE my christian friends just doesn’t get it, things have gone to far!

      • TheCarCzar

        This would have to happen on such a scale as to negate any enforcement

        • heidigirl

          it would have to start with folks who owe takes, encourage them not to pay what they owe. they may face jail etc? but short of an armed revolt, what else? where would you start? people will have to start feeling much pain, and suffer more than they are, before i see change, then maybe we can do it at the ballot box as intended, and the uniformed will join in and we will get our country back as our founders gave it to us.

      • Boatman 29er

        How do you stop paying tax when it’s removed from your income before you ever see it?

        • JustPassinThru

          Change your W2 with your HR dept. (or whoever handles it). You can change it to have no taxes taken out, then you refuse to file a return at tax time. Done. Until the IRS garnishes your wages…lol

  • eyedrs54

    If the GOP was hostage negotiators all of the hostages would be killed just in 24 hours instead of immediately.

  • Fizzycist

    It seems to always boil down to the same thing……smoke and mirrors….increased immediate spending but savings ten years down the road….meaning nothing really was accomplished …..

  • Stan Lee

    What is a conservative these days? Talking about selling snake oil.

  • Hotguyg

    I am not a pessimist. I am a realist with an optimistic outlook. I have a big dose of reality for the Americans/Conservatives posting here. The country known to us as “America” is dead and gone. The greatest country in human history expired November 6, 2012 with the re-election of Obama. Dont blame Barry for America’s demise nor the “citizens” that voted for him. Blame falls squarely at the feet of those who didnt turn out and vote him out. Period. America, like a patient in the ICU, is being kept “alive”with deficit spending, QE3, money printing, and generous welfare programs. We all now live in Obamastahn, a bankrupt socialist banana republic with no regard for the rule of law. Once the remnant of Americans who are toiling away at their jobs propping up Obamastahn with their income taxes come to their senses the sooner we can start talking about recreating a new country. Meanwhile the only option is to somehow survive if not profit from from this catastrophe. Exactly what the Dems and Rinos are doing. Obamastahn is not worth fighting for.

    • Descanti

      Secession. Armed revolt.

      • Hotguyg

        I can see Obamastahn declaring banruptcy and breaking up into 7-10 smaller solvent countries. Armed revolt wont be necessary. The smaller sane countries will then come together like the EU did. Hopefully we will be smart enough to not grant membership to the Greece like Northeast unit.

        • bob

          or the socialist state of California

    • TheCarCzar

      Agree, but I believe we lost the country 11/22/63. We need a for-the-people genuine centrist who will stand up to the MSM-Military-Industrial Murder Inc.

      • Hotguyg

        Those people at least working for a living. What do the Obamastahni’s contribute except future Obamastahni’s?

    • eyedrs54

      Sadly you are right I fear. The people are the problem and the steady slide that ALLOWED obama (a socialist at best) to be elected began long ago. As the founders said this great experiment will likely destroy itself from within. My great grandfather was born in 1888 and he told me back in the Reagan days that it was too little too late.

      • jma

        My grandfather complained about Wilson starting our demise as a country. We won’t even talk about FDR and LBJ.

    • Wyrdless

      America has been dead since the patriot act became law which effectively repealed the 4th amendment.

    • Boatman 29er

      That is sad but so very true. Excellent observation.

    • fred russo

      Hotguyg, you have nailed it. It will take guns in the streets to change it.

      • Hotguyg

        There are all ready too many guns in the streets. nI do anticipate a lot of inner city violence when Obamastahn crashes and burns. The new countries will have law and order like they do now.

    • $11776687

      If you believe your vote matters you are bigger sucker than the liberals. Also anyone who presses the button on a diebold machine should have their head examined for being so gullible. Voting hasn’t meant a dam in this country for a long time. Divide and conquer say the donkeys and elephants. Split them down the middle and take them for all they are worth.

  • baldyandtheblonde

    Paul Ryan is just another statist neo-con. We need more like Paul, Cruz and Lee .

  • eyedrs54

    “I want to take 200K from you”-A
    “No I want you to take nothing and I want to start saving 50K”-B
    “You are so rigid lets compromise, neanderthal”-A
    “Okay I don’t want to look bad How about you just take 10K from me and I wont save anything”-B
    “No make it 50K we take from you crazy hostage taker and we will suffer with that agreement”-A
    “Okay fine I won’t save anything and you get 50K”-B
    ——-Repeat above 3 months later
    ——-Repeat above 3 months later
    ——-Repeat above 3 months later and now what has happened?
    A has received the full 200K it wanted and B has received nothing of their desire.
    —-Now a new year negotiation starts. This is basically how our politics have been running for the last 25 years and most of the last 80.

  • TheCarCzar

    Theft on this scale cannot stand

  • Ted Baxter

    I stopped listening to Levin two months after he was broadcast when Savage left WRKO in Boston. Levin is angry too often. I don’t listen to talk radio much now. I live in Mass which is full of democrats, so I can’t do anything about the politics here as a conservative. I listen to sports radio now.

    • eyedrs54

      thanks for the update. Maybe Levin is mad for a reason. Maybe more of us should be mad. Not as a person but about the facts as Levin is when they are laid out.

    • Keep Honkin, I’m Reloading

      similar apathy is how we arrived in our current state

    • MarioG

      If you’re a conservative, why aren’t you as angry as Levin?

    • TheCarCzar

      Too much reading not enough to a discussion; often sounds like a person in dire need of more Metamucil

    • Lugh

      Well, all of the Conservatives out there could have turned out to vote for Scott Brown, but enough of them decided to decry him as a RINO and stay home. Now we have Granny Warren. Isn’t that just wonderful? I’ll take a Senate full of Scott Browns over one Liz Warren.

    • patriot2947

      You can’t be a true conservative. Number one, you’re giving up or giving in. Number two, there’s always the internet and petitions. Number three, you can also try to change a person’s mind by giving them more information. Never, ever give up, never!

    • drphibes

      Try old Huckabee episodes. Or Yanni.

    • DvdPvlch

      I’m at least as angry as Levin! How can you not be if you believe in the founding? This country is being dismantled bit by bit and these dolts in D.C. just twiddle away as if they’re doing right by the country. Pathetic!

    • castlebravo92

      If you aren’t angry, then you haven’t been paying attention.

  • patrick quinn

    Kudos to Paul Ryan and Kudos to Mark Levin holding the Republican’s feet to the fire on spending cuts…ty Mark

    • JustPassinThru

      Paul Ryan gets no respect until he stops pushing amnesty. Period.

    • Angie Nathan

      Ryan is just an enabler to the spending addicts. Wasn’t it just yesterday they were bragging about how the sequester would force cuts in the future for the spending they just approved?

  • Edward G Falcetta

    paul ryan is the devil

    • Angie Nathan

      R. Johnson has to go too.

  • creeper

    Ryan is disgusting. He sings the same song Obama does…me, me, me. Another RINO.

  • Armed Resistance

    I really like Mark Levin, but he should have stepped on Ryan’s throat! The cuts Ryan speaks of will never materialize, and his party is an embarrassment to free people everywhere. I would have challenged him- “Why not cut the military”? We need to cut everything- sensibly of course. Shut the stinking government down!

    • TheCarCzar

      What and your ball home if they won’t let you play?

  • Bobby the Brain

    if obama applauds the deal it can’t be good.

    • Red_Ruffansore

      Simple logic and yet look at all the RINO’s commenting today and sniveling about Levin kicking their pet RINO around. The easiest way to approach any idea Obama is for and take the opposite tack.

  • NHConservative777

    Ryan is a fraud. Boehner is incompetent, gutless and is not up to the fight. Besides that, everything is great.

    • Guest

      I think Paul Ryan is learning to be a typical politician,

  • NHConservative777

    Boehner is a good fighter. He fights and trashes conservatives almost as good as Democrats do. It’s just Democrats he has a problem with. He blows them kisses!

    • Guest

      Sure seems like it.

  • bob

    Congress is afraid to shut the country down for too long. Afraid the majority will find out how little the government contributes (i.e. none), how much they take, and how little they are needed.

  • britain

    “You’re a RINO if you don’t think the way I do!” Sheesuz.

    • Red_Ruffansore

      Hey hows your economy doing? Ya’ll bowing to Mecca yet? You guys put up less of a fight than Ricky Hatton, now do bugger off old bean.

    • YouDude60

      You’re a RINO if you’re not engaged in the reduction of the debt, the deficit and the scope/reach of the FedGov.
      The Obamacare rollout has proved EVERYTHING the right has been screaming about.

  • Mike

    No one that has an IQ over 50 gives a flying diddly shit what levin thinks or says.

    • M_J_S

      troll alert

    • IsraeliCojones

      Another smart lib lol

    • Pablo Diablo

      Wrong, he has a lot of listeners and has sold a lot of books.

    • marcus3127

      You’ve got it backwards–no one gives a flying diddly shit what YOU say.

  • Red_Ruffansore

    Levin takes brighter dumps in the morning than the sniveling detractors here. He’s read the legislation unlike you yapping chimps and he knows the net effect of Ryans pathetic attempt at a budget.

    Sounds like either liberal trolls or RNC plantation managers are running around here today.

    • screwthis

      Right on. The GOP has too few reps with the stones to stand up to the liberal establishment and media. Very sad.

  • no_more_deceit

    FRpAUl ryan D

  • Trudge1

    Whenever Ryan emerges I imagine him pulling his snorkel off and presenting a nice shiny tird.

  • Richard

    Mark Levin is a loud squeaky wheel who deserves to be replaced on the wagon of GOP control of the Congress.

    • Trudge1

      He’s the 60 pound gold nugget that breaks the wagon wheel.

    • lugnut4

      Call Mark…I want to hear how many seconds you last!!

      • Richard

        He has his hand on the controls. Why should I want to waste my time listening to his ranting for what cause?

        • lugnut4

          Coward

          • Richard

            He can come to my house to argue.

        • AntiSoros

          Education.

          • Richard

            Sure! Learn how to lose the 2014 education.

            • AntiSoros

              No. Learn about the Constitution, how our government was designed to function and your rights.

              • Richard

                I think I know about the Constitution. Do you know about winning elections? Can you do the math when Republicans control the House but Democrats control the Senate plus the Presidency? You do have every right to act like a Democrat Operative which is what I suspect you are. If Republicans do not take control of Congress after the 2014 election, the country will fall into the abyss of progressive socialism and folks like you and Levin will have been responsible.

                • AntiSoros

                  I am sure I have no idea what you are talking about and neither do you.
                  I am the farthest thing from a liberal or secular progressive. And, if you disagree with Levin on the Constitution, you are either ignorant as I suggested or a fool. If the Dems win another election it will be due to obdurate ideologues such as yourself who vow (in vain) to wait for perfect candidates…I know better and can analyze appropriately and make solid choices.
                  Anyone who thinks I am anything but a Conservative has not read my posts or even examined my avatar. Grow up.

                • Richard

                  It was the evangelicals and conservatives who stayed at home in 2012 and we now are suffering the consequences. I have read one of Levin’s books and agree he is a Constitutional scholar. Obama has made the same claim. Paul Ryan is trying to get the Republic back on track while folks like you are destroying the train. Wise up!

                • AntiSoros

                  You are really rudderless and quite confused.

                  I agree and acknowledged who stayed home and got O’bummer his second term and they were fools…I was not one of them.
                  Levin is a true Conservative and Constitutional scholar so since we agree on that, I am left wondering why you have been critical of him as he has NEVER advocated people stay home in some lame protest.
                  O’Bummer claims to be a Constitutional scholar however he self describes as believing that the document is simply a “charter of negative liberties” mainly because he despises the document. He as with many others of his ilk (“progressive”/Socialist), refuse to acknowledge that our Constitution was written and ratified to protect the people FROM government…it is NOT a list of rules the people must obey. THAT concept is too lofty for a commie dictator wannabe to accept so, what we have, is a socialist masquerading as “progressive” who despises the Constitution and circumvents and undermines it AT WILL with the unending assistance of other “progressives’ and the msm. He must be impeached for serious breeches of his oath of office.

                  I can’t imagine how you reached the conclusion that I believe Ryan is part of the problem…quite the contrary and, I would never seek to destroy the train. You still seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

    • TheCarCzar

      More Metamucil for Mark!

  • Justin_Yancey

    For all of you dumping on Paul Ryan, you need to step back and look at this before you comment. He hit the nail on the head when he said elections have consequences. They have to deal with the devil in the White House and his helpers in the Senate. Until conservatives win the White House and the Senate, nothing is going to happen that matters. Conservatives need to face the fact that America’s moral compass is gone. I respect Paul Ryan a great deal. No it’s not the perfect deal, but what would anyone of you running him down do if you were in his place. He is dealing with evil people and is doing his best to stop the bleeding.

    • Freedom_Isnt_Free

      You have hit the nail on the head! In addition to what you said, let’s not give Obama an opportunity to steer the conversation away from Obamacare! It’s time to think things thru rather than “cut our nose off spite our face” to use an old saying that aptly describes what we have been doing! We should be smarter than that.

    • Oslow Trane

      You also then missed the point immediately after Ryan said that. We had Bush and both houses of congress and it was the most spending in recent history. We don’t need republicans we need fiscal conservatives that are more than words.

    • Guinessforbreakfast

      The Republican Party has Obama and Dems at an advantage with Obama’s 37% rating. Why wouldn’t you put your adgenda in place instead of catering to Dems. All the Ryan types are doing is laying low out of the medias insecent hatered of republicans. Ryan is my congressman and he was never a puppy dog when he first ran, but with Washington and the corruption of the RINOS in the party he is now a puppy dog.

    • TxSagebrush

      Chief Justice Roberts…..although he made many of us, including me, mad on his decision……gave us that same kind of clue: elections have consequences. Even the SC cannot always save us from stupid votes casts by people who seem to believe they can get something for nothing.

      • AntiSoros

        The SCOTUS ruling by Roberts who broke the tie was erroneous since the ACA is NOT a tax as he decided. IF he ruled correctly (that it is not a tax but a government mandate), he would have struck it down. Roberts made a terrible mistake; especially as a supposed Conservative.

  • Teressa Rich-Lange

    A few year back the feds began an annual “fee” for using the child support system. Instead of charging the parent who pays through the system (because they would otherwise NOT support their children) the “fee” is collected out of the child support monies every October. So in other word every October there s $25 less to feed my children. Why is this not charged to the parent who has made this system necessary??????

    And please DO NOT USE the term NON-TAX REVENUE. A “fee” charged by the government is still a TAX!!!!!!!!

    • Ambrosia

      Non-tax revenue is an oxymoron. It seems the government believes we are too dumb to understand their play on words.

      • Teressa Rich-Lange

        Yes it is and they do believe we are that stupid!

  • wminaz

    I’ll support any deal that eliminates just one federal department or agency. Maybe start with the EPA or the Dept of Education ? Would be worth proposing just to see the maniacal reaction from the Dems. I mean, just how does the Dept of Education positively effect the education our kids get ? So we need the federal gov’t to override local school boards, parents and local control of our schools ? Why is their judgment preferential to local control ?
    If we can actually shut down an agency then I will start to have faith in our future. I know it won’t happen while Dems control any part of the federal gov’t but we need to start opening the door to this discussion.

    • Freedom_Isnt_Free

      II am not a republican. I am a conservative! Even though the proposed budget bill is not what I would ultimately like, I DO support it’s passage. Why? Because I do not want to give Obama a chance to change the subject from Obamacare to the republicans wanting to shut down the government! Obamacare is failing and republicans and conservatives do not need to provide life support for it! Also, let’s make Obama continue to lie about his healthcare bill and drive down his approval rating. The result of this will be the republicans taking control of both the house and the senate! Then we can demand the changes in government we seek or we can replace them. Right now is the best chance we will have for a long time!

      • wminaz

        Your point is a good one. However it is to be seen if the Repubs can actually keep their act together long enough to win the Senate. Under pressure from the leftist media they blew it last time. Say anything that can be misinterpreted and that Repub candidate can kiss his or her petoot goodbye as the media blows it up a thousand fold. The press will be rabid as they attack. Need to be ready for that. Heavy, hard hitting attacks on the Dem candidates, especially early in the campaign called for. No namby pamby gentlemanly ads. Call them what they are.

        • TheCarCzar

          Good candidates make good legislators

  • Lugh

    I hear the moniker “true conservative” bandied about quite a bit on this site, on the radio, and on TV. I wonder how many of those people using that term have heard of, let alone read, the founders of Conservatism– Edmund Burke, Ruskin, Carlyle, Arnold, etc. I’d be willing to bet less than 1%.

  • bjsguess

    Republicans just don’t get it.

    I would gladly take the Dems position. You give us $60M in spending cuts NOW and we’ll let you increase spending $85M over the next 10 years.

    Then I’d do exactly what the Dems do – hope that I’m in power by 2015 and then reduce or eliminate the $85M.

    Levin is exactly right on this one.

    • steamboat

      LOL – The dems will NEVER reduce or eliminate anything ! Reid won’t even stopping the subsidies for cowboy poetry.

    • Jack

      when do Dems ever stop spending…. need to know what you are smoking bro

    • AntiSoros

      But it is not just about spending levels now or later…it is about changing the laws now that effect increases later…listen carefully.

    • Guest

      The democrats are destroying America through their hope and change.

  • mrivera

    I’m glad Levin took time out from hawking his book to comment on the issues.

  • http://www.waynemcmichael.com Batmanroxus

    This current group of congressional fools will go down in history as the ones who had a chance to save America and refused to.

  • Edward La Guardia

    I know a lot of people say to have faith that things are going to get better…but sometimes I just can’t see it ever happening. You have a united Left that shares a similar way of thinking with radical Islam: do whatever you have to do to achieve the stated ends.

    So, if you have to lie, cheat, steal, kill, etc. it doesn’t matter as long as the goal is “righteous” and “just”. Because of this way of thinking they will not waiver no matter what they have to do. Look at how they ran the last two presidential elections and various congressional races.

    They will do and/or say whatever they have to do and/or say to win…no matter the cost to their ethics or morals…they don’t care…they are relentless and will not stop until they have what they want.

    Adding to that, they have the media, Hollywood, big business corporations, the unions, and a good chunk of Wall Street (even though they’d deny that up and down). Also, they know how to capitalize on the fairy tale world that many Americans live in now that is obsessed with entertainment and distractions…they appeal to the emotions of the ignorant and other weak-minded individuals.

    They divide and conquer: they pit all of us against each other based on religion, sexual orientation, economic situation, gender, race, age, etc, etc, etc.

    Taking all that into consideration it is truly going to take an act of God to turn this country around…if not I would say that the good ol’ USA won’t be around much longer.