The Right Scoop
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The Republican party is now infested with liberals and moderates - just about as bad as the Democrats.
I'm really leaning third party if the true conservatives are able to put one together in time.
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Hear Hear, Mark!
The Republican Party just can't wait to rebrand itself as "Democrat not-so lite". As they do that, they move farther and farther away from true American values. A pox on them all. I will support true conservatives and hope that one day We the People will have our own party and will leave the "Republicrats" in the dustbin of history. I fear that a second American Revolution will begin before we can split from these "inside-the-beltway" traitors in DC.
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The elephant in the room is voter fraud. It appears no one on our side (Rush, Levin, anybody else) wants to address the issue, but Leftists are stealing elections in this country, and not the least of which the last presidential election. Wake up...
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They're not standing on conservative principles because they TALK conservative to capture that part of the vote and then once elected they're accused of caving, waffling, fecklessness, and the like, when all the while they're STATISTS! Next election they promise to do better and the idiot voters believe them!!!! Meanwhile the corrupto-crats are laughing all the way to the bank. To the woodshed with them! Conservative voters MUST have a zero-tolerance policy or else we're as much to blame as the craven pols! One strike you're out, bub.
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It's off the rails on a crazy train the GOP goes....romancing Hispanics and women, and giving amnesty to illegal immigrants. What's that we smell? Why it's the crazy train's empty rail cars smoldering in that pile of junk metal after jumping the track.
People are deluding themselves that you can change the GOP. Did people forget already what happened in the Primaries in Fl, etc when the states flat out just ignored the rules they set? Wake the heck up!
One day the GOP says they are willing to shut the gov down, the next they don't want to shut the gov down. One day they say that we need to focus on the debt, the next they don't care about the debt. They are no different that Mitt Romney. One day saying they will protect our 2nd Amendment rights, while telling the beltway press that they are working on gun control. Being ABO doesn't cut it when they never stand up to him!
As for a 3rd party, it's too late for a 3rd party. What you see happened in CA and now CO is just a bellweather of what is to come. This country is going to become England and that is what is the saddest part of this whole mess! We declared independence from them only to turn into them anyway.
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These are the people who have been running things who lost us 2008 and 2012, Stick a fork in the GOP because it's done.
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Just a thought, but perhaps they don't stand on conservative principles because they aren't conservatives.
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The Bush family ruined the Republican Party... I have been saying that for 30 years... Thanks Mark!
@aposematic You are putting it nicely. What gets me is that it seems like only exBush people are around to keep messing things up.
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This is all bull. The only reason Dems are winning is because they are giving...giving out all the freebies. When this economy collapses and there are no handouts anymore but just jobs...everyone will be a Republican all of a sudden...you'll see. It is all about surviving...the easiest way possible or the only way possible if this economy goes south. Obama has spent over a trillion dollars MORE EVERY YEAR than Bush did in ANY year he was in office. Where do you think that trillion is going? To the low information voters and Corporate Honies of the Dems. Corporations give handsomely during election year and low information voters make-up over 50% of the votes....no wonder he won...someone did their homework.
AMEN brother AMEN !!!!!!
Dems and freeloading dummies will take down the edifice built on the Magna Carta.... the USofA dungheap of Western Civ.
@suzy000 I don't get what you are saying. Are you saying that we just wait for the economy to collapse and think THEN the GOP will be voted in?
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Hey Mark, the GOP has already split. Happened when Bush-Rove tried the Amnesty cramdown in 2006. The GOP presently is *nothing but* a brand--a hollowed out, highly unpopular brand. A substantial portion of the former party's core has moved on.
Time to shift gears and start the build of a new opposition party.
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Call me pessimistic but, at this rate, things will probably get worse before they get better. On the bright side, however... after the thousand-year dark age is over and our children's children's children's children's children's children (add a few more "children's" if you please), dig themselves out of the post-apocalyptic rubble and decipher the written language of "the fathers" (using the Rosetta stone of a Campbell's soup can to decode letterforms on the "LINC---N MEMORI--" (some characters illegible from wear and age), there will likely be a liberty revolution characterized by a very limited government and a complete absence of political parties for a few years. (I can't wait.)
DocBarry1 I'd like to be forward thinking about this. Knowing that a third party will probably devolve in due course just like the GOP, I want say we need a FOURTH PARTY!
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GOP REBRANDING JINGLES
Cut 1, Go!: "You got your big-government-conservatism in my peanut butter! You got your liberalism in my chocolate!"..."Two great tastes that taste great together...Republican and Democrat!"
Cut 2, Go!: "I am stuck on big debt, 'cause big debt's stuck on me!"
Cut 3, Go!: "I'd like to teach the world to sing a whole new tune like me!"
Cut 4, Go!: "What walks downstairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a weasily sound?... Paul Ryan and John Boehner!"
Cut 5, Go!: "My Conservatism has a first name, it's L-I-L-L-Y , my conservatism has a second name, it's L-I-V-E-R!"
@DocBarry1 I'd like to be forward thinking about this. Knowing that a third party will devolve in due course just like the GOP, I'm calling for a FOURTH PARTY! Are you with me, people?!
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@DocBarry1 It takes a long time to get a new party started.The libertarians have been at it for decades and they are just starting to gain a little traction.A conservative 3rd party is a worthwhile endeavor.
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When a split vote wins a primary. Oh, that's right, it never has and never will.
ALL 3rd party does is guarantee a Democrat victory.
It sucks, but that's the problem when theory and ideology are confronted with reality.
@DarrellGriffin @DocBarry1 That's baloney - if we get the right third party candidate, they'll be able to pull as many people from the Dems as the Republicans. For some reason people assume that third parties only pull from the GOP, but that's absolutely not true, and that kind of thinking is why we got Romney (who nobody really liked) instead of Ron Paul who *destroyed* Romney among independents, young voters, and even pulled in a significant number of Democrats. I think in the 2012 New Hampshire primary Ron Paul pulled in a high percentage of write-in votes in the Democratic primary!
The votes are there, we just need to stop letting the NeoCons convince us that the only way to win is to nominate crappy moderate candidates who don't appeal to anyone except for other NeoCons.
Even if you're right and a third party splits the party, the NeoCons need to realize that someone like me is just NOT going to vote for a liberal candidate like Mitt Romney. I live in Massachusetts, so I know how bad Romney was, and I'm sure people in Arizona were saying the same thing about Lame McCain. If you pick crappy candidates and don't listen to the grass roots who want a change, then you'll never win elections - it's that simple. We are done with the RINOs and want Liberty candidates, and all the talk about how "extreme" the tea party is isn't going to make us want to vote for your crappy candidates.
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@DarrellGriffin @DocBarry1 so be it then. I refuse to hold my nose and vote for another moderate RINO!!!
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No interest here in a 3rd party. I want a new 2nd party, and that starts with crushing the current group of frauds posing as an opposition.
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REBRANDING? In other words accept Amnesty, Abortion, Gay and Lesbian marriage and throw out the Ten Commandments and the BILL OF RIGHTS!
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@MadJack Forget them they're finished...
This is from the article; "Why amnesty for illegal aliens must be stopped"
From the article; "Why Amnesty for illegal aliens must be stopped"
These RINOs and other people tell us that the GOP must embrace amnesty for illegal aliens in order to win Hispanics’ votes. Embrace amnesty or perish, they tell us.
But they’re dead wrong. The GOP will perish if it adopts their proposals, NOT if it rejects amnesty. That’s because most Hispanics are natural liberals, and giving amnesty (under whatever name) to 12-20 million illegal immigrants from the Third World will create 12-20 million new Democrat voters.
Say there are only 12 mn illegal immigrants in America. Let’s assume they’re legalized and that Republicans achieve George W. Bush levels of the Hispanic vote (44%). That still gives the Democrats a net gain of 1.6 million new voters – 6.72 mn new supporters vs 5.28 mn.
Easy to see why the Democrats are for this. But why would a Republican Party that is not suicidally-minded support this?
If amnesty is passed, you can kiss the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and many governorships and state legislatures goodbye, forever. Republicans will never again be able to win any national election again. The Democrats will gain at least 1.6 mn new voters on net and will thus have permanent majorities in Arizona, Texas, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada.
When Texas goes, America goes.
Consider: while 18 states that have a combined 242 Electoral College votes have voted Democratic in the last consecutive six presidential elections, cobbling together an EC majority has been increasingly difficult for Republicans. Republicans last did it in 2004, and completely failed to do so in 4 of the last 6 elections.
California, overwhelmed by immigrants (legal and illegal), is now stridently liberal. New Mexico is now also out of reach for the GOP. Colorado, Nevada, Virginia, and Florida are increasingly problematic for Republicans. Only Texas and Arizona remain secure – for now.
-- I personally think they have some back door deal for the Republicans to take a fall & kill the party. Probably paid off the GOP leadership to make this happen in 2014 so O can complete his (meaning Soros') agenda. Obama has some very big money behind him with an agenda (think Soros or the Saudi Royals).. I assume this is the case because NOBODY can be this stupid!!
We MUST abandon them IN MASS for a third party & send them the way of Whig. The best one appears to be the constitution party. Surely our conservatives like Cruz or Paul won't want to stay in this "even more progressive" RINO party. We can do this we just have to organize non stop & starting NOW to make it happen.
Point is, they're dead with or without us & we obviously won't get any representation with today's GOP anyway!
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@BlissTabitha @MadJack Tabitha, yes we must have a new powerful Conservative Third Party. The hand writing is on the wall for the 2014 elections. Obama takes the House, sadly the America I know and love is done. :(
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He references polls a lot in this but I've come to the conclusion that polls dont mean chit. I watched for 4 years the polls saying jobs and the economy were the # 1 concern yet when election time came they didnt seem to matter whatsoever.
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Autopsy is apt name because the current republican party is surely dead and needs to be buried along with all of the old rinos it's fostering. A good actor knows that when his character is no longer relevant to the scene that he is supposed to get off the stage. A bad actor just hogs the spotlight and often has to be 'hooked' off stage.
Start a new conservative party, The Bull Moose Party, to be led by Sarah Palin and to include true conservatives and libertarians who know what a line in the sand means and are willing to stand up and fight for their principles and the constitution.
The moose is big and imposing; is independent and doesn't follow the herd; is gentle and family oriented; takes no carp from anything; and is a fierce fighter when provoked. A perfect image for true constitutional conservatives.
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Does this seem to describe the pattern of behavior by Boehner and Ryan .....
""The plan for a global currency or a one world economic order is a matter that transcends political parties. Those who continue to argue in the Republican-Democrat meme are doing nothing more than providing entertainment to distract people from the real issue, that of the global elite versus the rest of us. The top of the pyramid in this Ponzi scheme is filled with members of both U.S. political parties who are systematically pillaging us and our future generations into financial debt, bondage and slavery. It is a plan that has been in the works for centuries. The problem, however, is that we have been conditioned not to think that big. Yet, the lie is that big.
“There is no Republican-Democrat argument to be made anymore. It’s all political theater to keep the majority of the masses occupied while the true enemy has already captured both parties,” he added. “They are all in on it, either knowingly or unwittingly, the takeover, that is. And it’s getting harder to believe that there are any who are unwitting accomplices at this point.”
“When the curtain is pulled back to reveal the true agenda of a single digital world currency, the people who have been yelling the loudest about such ‘conspiracy theories’ will be specifically singled out and demonized. They will be blamed for causing the panic we will see, and of course, dealt with by the army we asked for, accepted and even tolerated.”
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