By The Right Scoop


Cavuto absolutely nails it with this one as he contrasts the Republican Party of old versus who they are now. Perhaps the best way for the Republican Party to go forward is to revisit the past and relearn its history:

So I finally got around to seeing Steven Spielberg’s movie, “Lincoln.” And it hit me: Forget about Harry Reid gathering his Democratic buddies to see this flick in the congressional auditorium on our dime. Republicans should run to their nearest theater to see it for themselves… on theirs.

Maybe then they’ll see their future.

Looking to Lincoln, our first Republican president, and remembering their past. A time when Republicans weren’t just pro-business, they were pro-people. A party that came into existence opposing slavery, now enslaved to the notion it’s a party of old, white men.

Think about that — a party that had “emancipation” in its DNA, now deemed a political dinosaur and all but DOA.

It doesn’t make sense.

It doesn’t make sense that a party that defined itself providing opportunity for all now gets bested by another party pushing government for all.

How did that happen?

How did a party founded by disgruntled northern white protestants and African-Americans, and under whose tent you had everyone from farmers to factory workers back then become this mish-mash it is now?

Watching “Lincoln,” I was reminded about a time when Republicans stood for opportunity for all and a president risked his very office enshrining it in our Constitution. Forget about what’s happened to our Constitution, what’s happened to theirs?

What’s happened to Republicans?

What happened to the party that extolled the benefits of business, but not so blindly that under Theodore Roosevelt, wasn’t afraid to rein in the abuses of business?

What happened to that party that pushed to keep our food safe and our environment clean? That could distinguish between regulations that mattered to life and not the onslaught of meaningless ones taxing business to death?

That could discern the difference between a smart government and an excessive government?

That brought us our national parks and protected our national workers?

What happened to that party? That party whose first slogan was “free soil, free silver, free men”?

Now, more like freefall.

It’s not that Republicans don’t know their future. They’ve forgotten their past and what should be in their soul. A party that defined itself not by what it could give you, but the boundary-less opportunities this country could provide you.

The Abraham Lincoln I saw in that movie spoke of a time when Republican ideals weren’t a movie and their idealism wasn’t just a script. It was their core. It was real. Abraham Lincoln was real.

Forget about Harry Reid trying to show Democrats a movie that provided a lesson in backbone. How about Republicans watch it on their own and then maybe look in the mirror.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KYTC7EGQASGOTQYPY2KPC4XCZY Don

    When you look at the leadership of the GOP there is no doubt that RINOs are the hierarchy of the leadership and conservatism to them is dead. McConnell, Boehner and Cantor are eunuchs who are beltway clowns with abolutely no convictions on the best interests of the American. One major political advisor even said the party must get more involved in the primary process so that loons like the Tea Party represents will not harm the GOP. That takes ignorance to another level. The GOP is now the third party and these morons are the last to know.

    • NJK

      With that attitude, they won’t win another election. The most intelligent people in the Congress are the Tea Party, just listen to them speak. I won’t vote Republican again, unless I’m presented with a true Constitutionalist. Ken Cucinelli in VA will be my next vote cast.

      I won’t cast a vote for another establishment type. If they think they can win over the left, go for it.

  • Conniption Fitz

    This is one of your best-ever ‘editorials’ Right Scoop. You are a true journalist and publisher of truth. Keep on!

    • Rshill7

      I could be wrong, but aren’t those Cavuto’s words? It was at the end of his show yesterday.

      Your second sentence is still correct though.

      • Conniption Fitz

        You are right – I was so absorbed in reading the text, I didn’t notice the quote line down the left side.

        Still, the second sentence is true. We are blessed to have Right Scoop and company fighting on the side of truth, justice and the American way.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elee-Zimmerman/1186792881 Elee Zimmerman

      Erm … yeah. Right. What Conniption said, ‘cept I don’t think Conniption knows how to read! LOL!

      • Rshill7

        “…I don’t think…” (Elee)

        That’s obvious.

      • Rightstuff1

        Zimm – happy new year !!!

  • Islam_Sucks

    wow… legislators learning history from hollywood….

    does anybody up there even remember how to read?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

    The Republicans Cavuto is referring to are big government Republicans. Roosevelt was a self proclaimed Progressive and of today’s bent on social engineering through government.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

      He’s talking about appropriate regulation, not saying they should all be just like Roosevelt.

    • NJK

      Teddy was into conservation. I’m all for conservation, but not to the point that they’re destroying farmers for a small fish in California. The Governors have to be educated about the tenth Amendment and start practicing it. They should nullify anything they know the Federal Govt. is not permitted to do. Just because a corrupt judge like John Roberts says it is ok, doesn’t mean it is. It simply means he’s corrupt. That needs to be pointed out. What are they going to do about it, if enough people tell them to take a hike.

      In Argentina the taxes got so high, the people quit paying them. I think with governors like Cucinnelli we have a chance. I heard the leftitst Lt. Gov. won’t support him, because he doesn’t think he’d be a good Gov. In other words, I’m jealous and won’t support him.

  • stage9

    THEY ABANDONED GOD!

    Next question…

    • Sandra123456

      Bingo!

    • NJK

      Amen.

  • anneinarkansas

    We have a few outstanding young Republicans in Congress now: Rubio, Cruz, Ayotte and a few others in the Senate….Tim Scott, Paul Ryan, Jim Jordan, and others in the House. They must stand firm for the country or we are doomed. Obama’s cabinet selections are chilling: Hagel, Kerry, Brennan, Lew…they do not favor a strong America…and I believe that Obama is anti-America as we know it.

    Have been out of pocket for a while….had my left shoulder totally replaced December 17 and am finally on the mend. I plan to have my right shoulder done in July and hope to get in before Obama gets his panel set up. I will be 77 in April and not worth much to good ole Kathleen Sebelius!

    • http://onthemark1.blogspot.com/ On The Mark

      I’m suspicious of some you mention, like Rubio and Ryan. But I agree that many newcomers to Congress give me cause for hope. I also agree that Obama’s nominees further reveal that he is, in fact, anti-American. His communist policies are only a tool with which he intends to diminish America.

      Godspeed. May your surgery be successful and your recovery speedy.

      • anneinarkansas

        Thanks for the good wishes…so far all is great.

    • Conniption Fitz

      Tim Scott is a Senator – the first African American Senator ever, from either party.

    • colliemum

      Congrats on having your left shoulder done – prayers for a speedy recovery, and my best wishes that you can get the right one done before the Obamacare people tell you you should be happy with having had the one done – who needs two functioning shoulders, at your age, right?

      • Rshill7

        As I read what our friend Anne said, it occurred to me that I have never heard of anyone having a shoulder replacement. Have you? Have heard of hip and knee replacements but never a shoulder replacement. Very interesting and probably a wise idea to get them now.

        • anneinarkansas

          As one who has been there, I do advise to get them now. I have had had both knees and one hip done in 2002 and in 2006 (knees). I have strong bones and worthless joints! Be sure to get a good doctor. My hip has been great and my shoulder (‘s) are going to be…my knees are still painful but I can get around without a cane.
          Getting old is not fun but life is still good…or would be if we could get Obama and the Democrats out of our lives!

      • anneinarkansas

        Thanks for the good wishes. It has not been a picnic but well worth it! And contrary to what Bam and Co. may think, I will at 77 still need two arms that work.
        My doctor thinks nothing will be set up in the way of panels in 2013…hope he is correct…wonderful doctor…my incision healed immedaitely and my stitches were out in under three weeks….sling until end of January.

        • colliemum

          You have been and are in good hands with your doctor!

          I hope you’ve got a very goos physiotherapist lined up – physio is extremely important, and you need a good’un!
          I’ve had one (for my leg after an accident) who used to be a sergeant in our Army. He was outstanding.
          Hope all goes well!

          • anneinarkansas

            Thanks, yes I do have an outstanding doctor.
            So far I am having occupational therapy at home and that will increase on the 15th. I am also still having Home Health nurses but they are cutting that now to once a week.

            February first I will start physical therapy at the hospital. They say it is strenuous….which I guess is good!!! They put no time limit on that…until I am finished they say..LOL

            • colliemum

              Yes, physio is not for wimps, that’s for sure.
              They probably give you exercises to do at home. That’s where one’s got to be diligent: no shirking!
              Yes, it takes as long as it takes, but ask them what they expect you to achieve from week to week, and then go for it.
              You’ve got my best wishes for a complete success!

    • NJK

      Cruz is one of my favorites. That man is presidential, and he seems fearless about standing up for what’s right. That doesn’t come along too often.

      • anneinarkansas

        Cruz is a great addition to the Senate Republicans. He was very impressive on Hannity last night.

  • tinker_thinker

    Yes! It’s like they are paralyzed by the media with that age old saying I grew up with…..”Oh My! What Will ‘They’ Think if You Act/do/think That.”….well I never could figure out who ‘they’ was. Till now….

  • http://onthemark1.blogspot.com/ On The Mark

    Lincoln was not a conservative. He was a Corporatist (Whig) who plunged us into war with ourselves for the sole purpose of destroying our federation, thus consolidating power in Washington, D.C. In this respect, the GOP establishment is faithful to its origins.

    Even though the GOP was, to its credit, opposed to slavery, Conservatism is not found in Republican history, but in American history.

    Lincoln was also very clear about his opinion of “Negros” as a lesser race.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elee-Zimmerman/1186792881 Elee Zimmerman

      LOL!

    • http://twitter.com/PaulZummo Paul Zummo

      That’s some great satire, On the Mark. Good stuff.

      Wait, that was serious? Umm, yeah.

      Lincoln was also very clear about his opinion of “Negros” as a lesser race.

      How unlike almost every single white person, opposed to slavery nor not, at the time.

      And please don’t mention colonization – Lincoln had given up on the idea halfway through the war.

    • http://www.facebook.com/paul.christian.942 librtifirst

      You are correct about the corporatist part, but he wanted to preserve and extend the federal government’s power over the states, especially the south. He favored the northern industrialists over the south, and sought to preserve slavery in the south for the benefit of the north. Tariffs, or taxes, were his interest for the south.

      Initially, he wanted to deport the negro, and his opinion of them was that they had rights, but not legal rights under our law due to their racial status. I believe that he emancipated them as a final option at the time to win the war against the south.

      The founders were ideological philosophers who wrote into our law that which was right for all men, but it was apparent that the negro was not considered part of “all men” for quite some time after the ratification of the constitution and bill of rights.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Very good.

    It’s funny… on paper, the damned Democrats are nothing but smarmy little odd kids who are deliberately destroying our country. The Republicans historically reminded me of “roll up your sleaves” and get down to work cool kids (not that I like cliques… I don’t). But it’s unfathonable that the dorky, spineless, wimpy little odd kids are winning this war over our nation. And it’s even more odd that many of today’s Republicans are looking more and more like those weasels across the aisle.

    All that aside, I still blame the criminal main stream media for glorifying the monsters and demonizing the do-gooder wannabes or heroes on the right. Domestic terrorism. They paint the picture that most Americans see. And the GOP is hard pressed to change the portrait.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVCGRG62NAGQXJ6ZNE4JCTVVTU Ray

      “And it’s even more odd that many of today’s Republicans are looking more and more like those weasels across the aisle.”

      Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, WE HAVE A WINNA!

    • ryanomaniac

      Its the media, its the media, its the media. People are high strung and stressed out and way too busy these days. They get their news on the go pretty much. Like Yahoo News and the big three networks. The Sunday morning talk shows etc. The liberals have cornered the market when it comes to this. They know where the people go and they take over. Liberals cant win an honest debate.

      Everything you said was right on. The only way I see to break through is to have someone on our side with some balls. Like Ted Cruz the other day. You have to smack the media around a little bit kinda like Newt did. The press are easily spooked when confronted with facts and confidence.

      • cabensg

        The problem is none of them know how to smack the media around while also smacking the liberal Democrats around. I’m telling you he needs to open a school where we can send conservative candidates to learn how to do this. All it takes is practice to be half way good. To be totally good you need to be Newt.

        • Sober_Thinking

          Have Breitbart.com sponsor it and enlist Newt and Greg Gutfeld? :)

      • Sober_Thinking

        So it sounds like you’re implying that the lame stream media is the “fast food” of news outlets and too many people are crying, “Supersize me!”?

        ;)

        Fix the media – get the truth out there… and so many of our problems will simply go away, it’s not funny.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVCGRG62NAGQXJ6ZNE4JCTVVTU Ray

    NO, they are who they are, well left of Reagan. Big government liberals. We need to make the TEA Party a political party and get it on it’s way to success.

  • Kordane

    They could start by actually going back to the principle that was behind the calls for “limited government”, namely the principle of unalienable individual rights. The problem is that the calls for “limited government” have become detached from the principle of unalienable individual rights, and it’s currently just an unprincipled call for “limited government” which is sadly up against a principled call for “absolute government” (by the Left).

    The moment that Republicans began compromising on the principle of unalienable individual rights, was the moment that they lost the fight for “limited government”, since by compromising on said principle they surrendered the whole thing by establishing the (precedent of) the Left’s right to violate individual rights.

    If the Republicans want to “remember who they really are”, or rather “remember what they should be”, the Republicans need to once again embrace the principle of unalienable individual rights, but this time not allow ANY compromise on it.

    • Rshill7

      Where did those unalienable rights come from? Just curious how you would answer that.

      • Kordane

        They’re necessitated by man’s nature as a rational being.

        • Rshill7

          Thanks for that Kordane. Here’s what I think.

          Man was created by God, in His own image.

          • Kordane

            The difference is that I can explain how you go from having a rational mind to having unalienable individual rights, so that you can know that unalienable individual rights are real – Whereas you have to rely on belief and tell people to “have faith”, whilst offering no empirical evidence to support your allegations.

            Who are people going to accept? The person who uses reason to show how something exists, or the person who tells you to “have faith” that something exists?

            I can understand using faith when it comes to things like the existence of God, because it’s not possible to use your sense of reason for that – But when it comes to the unalienable individual rights whereby it is possible to use your sense of reason to validate its existence, then why use faith for that? You wouldn’t cross busy roads “on faith”, would you? No, you’d use your sense of reason, because reason is available in that circumstance, and you know that without your eyes and ears, you’d very likely get run over and killed.

            • Rshill7

              An adult brain contains about 100 billion nerve cells, or neurons, with branches that connect at more than 100 trillion points. Scientists call this dense, branching network a “neuron forest.”

              It is not “rational” to suggest or believe that this “evolved” by random processes, regardless of how many billions of years of time, the evolutionist’s hero, ascribes to those random processes.

              Basically what I have done is eliminate the scientifically impossible. You on the other hand hang your hat on many scientific impossibilities.

              You would say that an arrowhead found in a forest shows intelligent design, but the human brain happened by chance, without direction, and with no intelligence whatsoever. You then call that “rational”? Whether Earth is an open or a closed system, that is just mathematically and biologically impossible.

              One could also look at the compound eye of the mollusk from “millions” of years ago. Not only can you not get to that through random processes, you can’t even make it to the first “simple” cell, which is irreducibly complex.

              In addition, there has never been found, a fossil of any species in transition. They are all fully formed and functional.

              When you eliminate the impossible, that impossibility you eliminate is God. The impossibility I eliminate is any “science” which violates the laws of physics. We know what the laws of physics are. We cannot begin to even fathom, what God is. So, the impossibility I eliminate is much more rational than the perceived impossibility you eliminate.

              • Kordane

                None of what you said has anything to do with what I spoke of. This isn’t a discussion about evolution vs intelligent design. This was a discussion about the source of unalienable individual rights. You say “God did it”, whereas I say that “They are necessitated by man’s nature as a rational being” – Your explanation is based on faith; my explanation is based on reason. My point to you is that if you want to defend unalienable individual rights then you are not only presenting an extremely weak argument (one based on faith), but you are also sabotaging the defence of unalienable individual rights because you are resting them on allegations that lack empirical evidence, and are allowing the opponents of unalienable individual rights (the statist Left) to argue that they can offer the “rational alternative” argument of “rights come from government”, and people will buy into that because it’s perceivable and because it has some semblance of truth to it, which is a far more believable alternative than someone who tells you some fairy tale being called “God” gave them to you.

                In this battle against the statist Left, who argue that rights come from government, an explanation must be offered that is not only more believable, but can also be explained in detail from the bottom up; one that doesn’t just have a semblance of truth to it, but IS the truth.

                I won’t deceive you. The explanation I’ve elicited to does come from Ayn Rand. I’m an Objectivist, so that philosophy is what I advocate here. I just want you to take some time to actually understand what Ayn Rand’s explanation is for the source of unalienable individual rights, rather than just shunning it in favor of the utterly baseless “God did it” argument. Hopefully you’ll see that her explanation has not only a base, but a very very strong foundation based in reason; that you can ‘know’ it is real and right, rather than just taking it on faith.

                The unalienable individual rights are not a matter of faith. They are entirely provable by reason alone. That is what you and every other individual on the Right has to come to accept. I know it’s hard, being religious and all, you want religion to be the basis for all this stuff, but you have to realize that it’s not helpful here.

                • Rshill7

                  “I just want you to take some time to actually understand what Ayn Rand’s explanation is for the source of unalienable individual rights, rather than just shunning it in favor of the utterly baseless “God did it” argument.” (Kordane)

                  Utterly baseless? My brief explanation above shows that it is anything but baseless, and macro-evolution versus intelligent design has everything to do with it.

                  Darwin and Huxley made atheism fashionable. It ushered in the genocidal century, the 20th. It loosed man from measurable morality and dismembered the measuring device itself, for many. It allowed the state to supersede God. It allowed for the desired end to justify any and all means.

                  In other words, what I said has everything to do with what you spoke of. It has everything to do with everything. Our Founders understood that our unalienable rights come from God.

                  Why did Ayn Rand reject everything else about the Soviet system other than it’s atheism? It’s the atheism that made the rest possible, acceptable, and palatable. Atheism is the biggest mass murderer in human history. The morality of atheism is tethered to nothing.

                  There is no more important question for mankind than Evolution versus Intelligent Design. The ramifications of that answer, or contest if you will, is all encompassing and affects everything.

                  Atheism separated man from the Divine, remaking him from one created by God in his own image, to a mere cog in a machine, expendable, worthy only by “virtue” of what “it” could contribute to the collective.

                • Kordane

                  Hey buddy, don’t blame Atheism for those deaths in the 20th century. The biggest killers: Stalin, Mao and Hitler – All of them did what they did because they were statist ideologues for Nazism (national socialism) and Communism (international socialism). Don’t present a red herring argument saying that it was Atheism to blame.

                  Also, don’t lie to me by basically saying that Atheism = No morality. I know it’s not true because I’m an Atheist, but I adhere to the Objectivist ethics. I have a moral code that I live by. I’m a very moral person, and I didn’t need no religion to achieve that.

                  Morality is a component of philosophy. Religions are basic philosophies (ie. they don’t always have political and aesthetic components), but they aren’t the sole source of morality. Every philosophy has an ethical system, but not every philosophy is religious. To be a religion, a philosophy needs to be based on the metaphysics of mysticism and the epistemology of faith.

                  I think that being an Atheist actually makes you care more about THIS world and wanting to make one’s own life the best possible life that it can be, because you only get one! – But it’s pretty self-evident that this does require you to be pretty rational.

                  The founders did not specify that the unalienable individual rights “come from God”.

                  The founders said “endowed by our creator” – But creator can mean lots of things. Personally, I think it means “reality”, since what are we other than matter and energy? Sure, the founders were spiritual people, but I don’t recall them all being ardent Christians. I recall Jefferson writing his own bible too, where he took out all the mumbo-jumbo garbage, and only kept what he thought was good and rational. I’ve heard that they were “deists” more than they were ardent Christians.

                  Quote: “Why did Ayn Rand reject everything else about the Soviet system other than it’s atheism? It’s the atheism that made the rest possible, acceptable, and palatable. Atheism is the biggest mass murderer in human history. The morality of atheism is tethered to nothing.”

                  You’re talking crap if you want me to believe that if only they’d been ardent religious folk, they’d never have killed anyone. Look at history; look at how many have died because of religion; look at how many are STILL dying because of religion. Being religious does not guarantee that an individual will never kill anyone or advocate killing anyone. History would be a lot different if that were the case.

                  What made all of the killing in the 20th century possible were the political ideas of the time and the shared morality of “collectivist-altruism” which motivated those leaders to do what they did, and which motivated the people to support those leaders’ actions.

                  But no, not according to you. Communism and Nazism weren’t to blame. Communism and Nazism were perfectly good ideas. It was just that big bad Atheism to blame, right?? Please, spare me from the foolishness -_-

                  You post here often, you stay on top of the politics, so you should know better than this. You should know that ideas have power, and that the bad ideas can result in bad political policies and actions. How many Democrats out there are religious, but still advocate Communism, Marxism and Socialism? A lot, I’d wager. Being religious does nothing to stop folk from adopting these very evil ideas. Stop fooling yourself into thinking that all of the ills in the world lay at the doorstep of Atheism.

                • Rshill7

                  I see that you’re edges are fraying. Indeed, unraveling completely.

                  “You’re talking crap…” is not a rebuttal.

                  I’m right, and you know it. Pontificate all you want. here, I wrote the “following” just for you:

                  Our Mother-Rand, which art in Hell, hollow be thy name, thy kingdom rot, on a rickety cot, in Hell as it does in the gulags…

                • Rshill7

                  However, I’ll ask the question once more just for the “Hell” of it:

                  Why did Ayn Rand reject everything else about the Soviet system other than it’s atheism?

                • Kordane

                  Everything? She rejected the political system (Communism) and the morality behind it (Collectivist-Altruism). And who’s to say that the Soviets were Atheists? The Orthodox church has always been very strong in Russia. You’re attributing all these atrocities to Atheism, for the benefit of your own religious agenda, and are ignoring the moral code and political systems that provided the motivation and ideas that would eventually give rise to those atrocities. Being religious or non-religious had nothing to do with it. Communists are communists regardless of whether they’re religious or not, just as Nazis are Nazis regardless of whether they’re religious or not. Just stop your religiously-motivated Atheism-hatred for a moment, and actually consider what I’m saying.

                • Rshill7

                  God gave man individual freewill from the very beginning. Communism and Socialism stole that freewill. Atheism, made fashionable by Darwin, Huxley, Marx, Engels, and Nietzsche, facilitated the rest, i.e., Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, etc. and the genocidal abuses that followed.

                  Were God a puppet master and you one of his controlled puppet/automatons, you wouldn’t be an atheist would you? You wouldn’t be anything like a free human either.

                  I do not worship Rand. You seem to be a borderline worshiper of her. People can be brilliant in many areas while totally inept in others. Rand: brilliant writer, failure in love, life, and relationships. A chain-smoking heart attack that finally happened.

                  Read “The Road To Serfdom” if you haven’t.

                  Mussolini was also a lifelong atheist and a lifelong socialist, and I believe it was Stalin who said “the goal of socialism is communism”.

                  It never ceases to amaze me how people like yourself will look everywhere, and I mean everywhere for the truth, except where it lives. Were Sir Isaac Newton still alive you could shoot him an e-mail calling him an idiot, along with all of the other great scientists who were also Christians.

                  Would that you were better at answering questions. In answer to your question though:

                  “The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism, in which social success largely required individuals to profess atheism and stay away from houses of worship; this attitude was especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929–1939.”

                  “Communist” regimes later treated religious believers as subversives or abnormal, sometimes relegated to psychiatric hospitals and reeducation.”

                • Kordane

                  Rshill, I know you’re wrong when you claim that the deaths of the 20th century under Communism and Nazism were the fault of Atheism, because I know that Atheism is simply the refusal to accept mysticism and faith. There is nothing more to it than that. There isn’t some secret ‘Atheist commandments’ which instruct people to mass-murder others, to expropriate the property of others, and all that other crap that happened during the 20th century. I mean, I’m an Atheist and I don’t agree with anything that was done by Communist Russia, Communist China or Nazi Germany. How do you rectify that with your claims about Atheism? An Atheist who isn’t a mass-murderer and a thief. It’s a massive hole in your claim.

                  Your sheer doggedness to “blame Atheism” has gone well into irrationality.

                  Say it with me: Atheism does NOT automatically equal mass-murdering, thievery, and all that bad stuff that happened under the Communists and Nazis.

                  Be rational and understand that all that bad stuff that happened under the Communists and the Nazis was a direct result of the Communism and the Nazism. End of. Nothing more to the story. That’s it.

                  Saying “But they were Atheists, so therefore Atheism was to blame!” is like looking at a male murderer and saying “But he’s a Man, so therefore Masculinity is to blame for murder!”. It’s a TOTAL fallacy on your part, and you should know better than this.

                • Rshill7

                  Institutionalized atheism. State sponsored atheism. The official state position of atheism. See the difference?

                • Rshill7

                  There was no such thing as Communism before Darwin wrote his book. There was no such thing as Communism before Marx and Engels wrote their books (volumes). There is nothing “altruistic” about communism. Nothing altruistic about Lenin, Stalin and Hitler either. Do you recall the year Nietzsche said God is dead, or “Gott ist tot”.

                  Darwin
                  Marx
                  Engels
                  Nietzsche

                  Have you ever read “The Road To Serfdom” by Hayek?

                  Have you no concept of cause and effect?

                  I have considered what you have been saying, and I find it without merit.

                • Kordane

                  You spoke of the 20th century being the century in which there was great death. The two biggest examples of that were Communism under Stalin and Mao, and Nazism under Hitler.

                  And yes, Altruism was a very big component of Communism and Nazism. It was argued that since self-sacrifice for the sake of others is good and that selfishness is evil, and that man’s nature is inherently selfish… the government should therefore force individuals to be moral by forcefully sacrificing individuals for the sake of others, for the sake of society, for the sake of the latest four year plan, etc. All of the greatest horrors of Communism and Nazism were motivated by a moral code of collectivist-altruism. The politics of the Left today is no different; it is still motivated by the same moral code.

                  Deny it all you want, but this is the truth of the matter. I know you’re religious and want to protect your precious Altruism, but I would argue that this is an example of why America is falling apart at the seams – Because people overwhelmingly embrace a moral code (collectivism and altruism) which is incompatible with Capitalism and Individual Rights. Think about it: If Man is a sacrificial animal for the sake of others, then Man has NO individual rights; he is just a right-less slave to others.

                  All of this stuff has been explained in great detail by Ayn Rand. I’ve explained the tip of the iceberg to you, and I’ll leave it up to you whether you want to read more into it.

                • Rshill7

                  The publication of Darwin’s The Origin of Species: 1859

                  The publication of Karl Marx’ Das Kapital: First volume 1867, 2nd volume 1885 (by Friedrich Engels) 3rd volume 1894 (by Friedrich Engels)

            • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

              I ‘liked’ your comment, not because I agree with it, but I like that you are free here to express your opinion even as I disagree with it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/paul.christian.942 librtifirst

        Minor point guys. It’s “inalienable”, not “unalienable”. Nice conversation.

        • Rshill7
          • http://www.facebook.com/paul.christian.942 librtifirst

            I thought that was too obvious of a mistake for you. I had looked it up in dictionaries, and “unalienble” wasn’t even available. Interesting. Thanks.

  • colliemum

    Well, all is not lost, Mr Cavuto!

    Here’s the link to an outstanding article by none other than Ted Cruz, which I got via twitter:

    http://ht.ly/gBNXp

    Read it, study it, send it round – especially to your Congress critters!

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      Thanks colliemum, I’ve retweeted it just now too.

      If you haven’t already got this, this is the contact your critter in congress list:
      http://grumpyelder.com/?p=32846

      • colliemum

        Well, I shall quote from it and link it at every opportunity on conservative sites over here! Some belong to excellent Tory MPs, and they will grasp what Ted Cruz has to say and use it …. I hope.

        • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

          WE all hope! :-)

          • colliemum

            Never stop hoping!

            It’s something we can learn from our dogs: they are always hopeful – for a biscuit, a bit of playing, a titbit, a walk, a cuddle – and they never hold it against us when we say ‘no’.

            • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

              I joke with my wife that my dogs threaten that I will “have a little accident” next time going down the stairs with them when I don’t give them something they are demanding… I swear the way Snowy looks at me sometimes, I’m sure that’s what he’s thinking. ;-)

              • colliemum

                Nah – they wouldn’t, they know better than to incapacitate their main source of titbits!
                Must be a gender thing: my late husband was always taken in by the look of “I’m the last dog on earth and I’m staaaaarving, how can you be so cruel and not feed me!”
                I never was – even whey they made a face saying “but muuuum!”, with tail-wag.
                I bet your wife is also a harsh dog-mummy!

                ;-)

                • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

                  Yup, telling me I give them too many treats… :-)

                • colliemum

                  I knew it!

                  :-)))

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CZSU2D67ODNZOKEZYHXONQ4F5Y John

    Fr…..Fr…………..Freedom?
    everything Congress and WH do these days is against average citizen….. :(

  • bjohnson55

    Amen Neil Amen.

  • sjmom

    IMHO, here is the distinction. Conservatives are people of principle and we are those who will fight for what we believe. Usually, we have strong convictions, know who we are and for many of us it is based upon a strong faith in God.

    Today’s Republicans, on the other hand, seek power rather than principle and will compromise their beliefs because they live in fear of what someone will say about them and so have sold themselves, us and our nation to the ruthless, the evil and the ungodly.

    I know Abraham Lincoln was a godly man who sought Providence and fought for those principles in which he believed. Republicans must return to the principles and the values which have made this country great. The answer is courage and faith God will not only be in it with you, but take you through it to victory.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    Republicans seem to be suffering from BPS (Battered Politician Syndrome). Their guy lost the Presidential Election and They are acting like they have become FTPs (French Tumbling Poodles). Every time they have an opportunity to fight back, instead they roll over ON their back! It’s embarrassing!!! Unless they wise up real soon, there will be a rift and a New Party and if that happens the Rs will be designated to the trash heap of history!

    Even as I type, a Grassroots Conservative Party has been formed and is growing rapidly!
    The Constitutional Freedom Party!

    Follow this link, read and learn what our mission and platform is:
    http://constfreparty.blogspot.com

    If you find yourself in agreement with us, JOIN US! This is a grassroots movement that you, as a Concerned Conservative need to be part of!
    Come join us at : https://www.facebook.com/groups/CFP4US/

    • aposematic

      Sadly Wolfie, I think the crop of R’s now bowing to the D’s in Congress consider a compromise win on any Bill as being as simple as the D’s allowing them to insert some of their own pork.

  • capelady

    Easy questions to answer… our politicians forgot they were there to serve the people and put their own ambitions before the good of the nation.

    Can anyone say “term limits”? Newt tried in 1994 and his own party blocked him!!! We must find a way to insist on it – just refusing to vote for anyone who doesn’t go along. It is the phenomenon of career politicians who have become the elite, and that was never intended for our government…..of the people, by the people, and for the people!

    I often wonder if they ever bother to think about… the people, except at election time.

    • Wisewoman2

      Not sure of my statement but didn’t term limits pass only to be struck down by the SCOTUS as unconstitutional? Scoop help with the education on this issue.

      • capelady

        Term Limits are NOT unconstitutional. The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution requires the Presidency of the United States to have Term Limits. Therefore Congress should also be required to have the same Term Limits.

      • Amy

        They struck down individual state’s attempts to set term limits on federal Reps & Senators. The push in the mid 90’s for an amendment to the US Constitution never garnered the 2/3 majority needed and fizzled out.

  • aposematic

    What happened is really pretty lived it myself simple: In the early 70’s, 73 in fact, America decided to sanction murder–primarily the genocide of the unborn but not all inclusive. In the late 70’s diversity PC crap demanded Christianity be stricken from speech as to not offend someone, anyone. In the 80’s Business expanded no holds barred Global big time requiring crony capitalism take business to new heights as that was the way its done in the World, don’t you know: bribes, kickbacks, and payoffs is the SOP of the World’s Business practices. Not to give away my age; but I remember when American Companies were hauled into court over Foreign Business bribes/payoffs/kickbacks. In the 90’s foreign “investment” intervention into American politics became SOP under the Clintons. In the 00’s the Media stopped even pretending they were impartial on so many fronts but specifically on the love for D’s and the hate for R’s, Jews, and Christians. And all of this brought to US by our children who are born blessed with mostly undeveloped empty heads and then forced to progress thru an Education System controlled, directed, and taught by selfish fools intentioned to grow their ranks. Before the 70’s I can’t really give my experience as I myself was one of those selfish fools; although that by todays selfish fools standards we would have been considered very lame at best. A years vacation, 69, in the wonderful resort of Viet Nam was a wake up call to say the least.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVCGRG62NAGQXJ6ZNE4JCTVVTU Ray

    No, Neil, they ARE exactly Republicans. What you think you understand as Republicans are Reagan Conservatives, the Establishment Republicans never wanted him in there in the first place. We TEA party’ers are the RINO’S it is time we leave, for we will never get that rotting, smelling carcass to turn conservative.

  • aposematic

    Everything is about payoffs, redistribution if you wish, with little if any consideration of future consequences for anyone, least of all the people the Pols are stealing from. Concerning though is what “unexpected” consequences result for corruption when all future planning relies on the continuation of those payoffs. We have seen the result of the Administrations payoffs ending to the small corruption firms in the “green” energy field…bankruptcy. What will the big corruption firms like the Big Banks do? It could get very very nasty quick. Its why the D’s are constantly screaming for more, more, more to keep the corruption flowing smoothly.

  • shield1

    It’s time to free the slaves from the Democrat Party again. I mean all of us including the Dem ghettos which keep the minorities poor and needing handouts which in turn the Dems buy their votes with.

  • semby

    I’m sorry, Neil is 100% wrong.
    What people need to realize is that the Republicans had a gun to their head.
    Obama, Pelosi, Soros, Podesta and Moveon.org are running and ruining this country.
    So tired of talkheads complaining about Republicans in Congress or Mitt Romney.

  • NJK

    I won’t see Lincoln because of Spielberg. He said at the premier that the Republicans today are racist like the Democrats used to be, or something along those lines.

    He shoudn’t profit from capitalism while supporting Obama. I won’t add to his wealth while he’s calling me a racist.

  • klaffner

    Good editorial for sure. Thanks Scoop. I hate the congressional Republican leaders and talking heads keep getting out maneuvered with language (it’s tax increases morons. stop using the dem word … revenue) and other PR matters. But I am not ready to trash them yet. This surreal recent cliff situation is over. there was no way they could ever win when a huge tax increase for everyone was the law in place.

    BUT: They better do three things for the upcoming debt limit debate.
    1. They have a fully fleshed out plan.
    2. Every single republican congressmen fully on board for that plan. And
    3 No one blinks. They remain unified and stick to the plan. All of them.

    If they find themselves, once again, in disarray and we lose again… Then I may start my own tea party petition to run for office.

  • NJK

    Tenth Amendment anyone? How about states start to practice it, and ignore the corrupt judges? It wouldn’t hurt you know. Someday, history is going to ask why everyone just went along with it. Why didn’t they just ignore what they know to be unconstitutional? Just because a judge issues a corrupt ruling siding with the EPA, including the Supreme Court, doesn’t mean it’s Constitutional. It simply means they’re corrupt or stupid and should be ignored. What’s so hard about it?

    It’s an Obama World… Georgia Power Company Closes 15 Plants Thanks to Latest EPA Regulations

    Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, January 8, 2013, 1:09 PM
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/its-an-obama-world-georgia-power-company-closes-15-plants-thanks-to-latest-epa-regulations/

    • http://www.facebook.com/paul.christian.942 librtifirst

      Lincoln won. We serve the feds now.

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    There is a new form of slavery today. We are now slaves to various governments within this country, whether it is the Federal Government, state government, or city government. We are being taxed, regulated and spent to death and there is little we can do about it. Elections? We just had one, and how did that work out for us? We at least had a chance to stop the spreading socialism in this country, but a majority of Americans didn’t jump at that chance. No, I fear either one of two outcomes for this country. Either we end up like Greece, bankrupt and with a dismal financial future (like most of the European welfare states), or there will be one issue that will tear us apart, just like it did during the Civil War. That one issue could very well be gun ownership. As usual, liberals are overreaching for one of their fundamental beliefs, that the Second Amendment is to be ignored and that the only logical outcome should be to disarm the American public. Liberals, like Osama bin Laden, actually now think that there is nothing many Americans see worth fighting for on our own soil. They are sadly mistaken. I really fear for this country if they try to push through massive gun control legislation over the objections of the American public. And don’t think it can’t happen. Harry Reid pushed through Obamacare on a “reconciliation” vote, forcing it through Congress without the consent of the people. Don’t think something like that can’t happen with gun control, espcially with Reid in the Senate. If it does, I tremble for what could happen in this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-L-Weatherly/1131003628 Gary L Weatherly

    HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE U.S.A. IN 2013 EVEN KNOW THAT LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN … ?

  • PVG

    BRAVO!!

    Great movie BTW!

  • cabensg

    Republicans are made up of Americans living in America. As such some have become the victims of brainwashing by liberal education and media just like a large number of our fellow Americans. While those of us who are now conservatives weren’t paying close enough attention we elected some of those brainwashed Americans to elective office. I see no mystery here. I see only the consequences of our disengagement from politics and every part of our society now owned by liberalism that we must now try to take back.

  • jgilman1

    The Republican party is not the problem, it is the faux Republicans representing it that are the problem.

  • blackbird

    There was something called honor back then.

  • http://www.facebook.com/paul.christian.942 librtifirst

    I haven’t seen the movie, but from what I have heard conservatives saying about it, it appears that the movie is a typical Hollywood rendition. Are conservatives now going along with the saying “the civil war was about slavery”? It may be politically advantageous at this moment in time, but a falsehood never helps a cause. Did the movie portray Lincoln as an abolitionist? The evidence that I have seen suggests the contrary. He had no history of being an abolitionist prior to the war, and the war was about the federal government maintaining control of certain states rather than some ideological or moral position on slavery. Bringing the slavery issue to the forefront during a war was a way to bring morality to the war, and gain support for it.

    Lincoln was quoted as saying that he had no interest in addressing the slavery issue while running for office. Lincoln admitted that he truly became a Christian after looking upon the mass graves that the war produced. He was referred to as a “skilled politician”.

    We fought a war over states rights, and states rights lost. Lincoln opened the door for federal tyranny upon the states to progress. His actions stomped out any future resistance by the states, as they knew what the federal government was willing to do if they threatened to secede. He paved the way for Wilson and all the rest to sell us out to foreign bankers which ultimately led to the creation of a world dominant force now referred to as the military industrial complex.

    I will say that he did one good thing in rejecting the foreign bankers and creating the greenback, but his actions against the states who were exercising their right to secede was tyranny at its core. Romanticizing the civil war, or interjecting slavery as being its purpose is not as advantageous as many may think. Glorifying Lincoln is to ignore the many atrocious things that he did.

    Lincoln suspended the first amendment. He jailed many journalists and even members of congress for apposing his agenda verbally. Lincoln put his boot on the neck our this country and it’s supreme law.

    There were other ways of dealing with slavery, if that was the actual reason for such federal aggression. Our supreme law already guaranteed “all men” natural rights. This battle could have been fought in the courts. Legislation could have been passed to guarantee all men equal rights which could have been substantiated by the supreme law itself.

    There was no way that this had enough political support to happen at this time. The federal government was taxing the south in such a way as to be unequal, which was unconstitutional at the time. These taxes were not apportioned as was required by the law at the time. Certain states rebelled against this, and war ensued.

    http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=312

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-L-Macchia/649373637 Robert L Macchia

    Cavuto is great and he ALWAYS speaks the truth.