By Caleb Howe


“Here’s the baloney. Every major city which is a center of poverty is run by Democrats. Every major city. Their policies have failed, they’re not willing to admit and the fact is it’s the poor who suffer from bad government.”

On ABC’s This Week, Newt Gingrich faced off against former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich on the issue of poverty. Reich suggests that Repulicans are to blame for the fact that poverty has increased under President Obama, saying:

Well the problem is worse; I think it has something to do, perhaps, with the intransigence of the Speaker’s Party, because every time there was a jobs bill, every time there was an effort to expand a low income housing, every time there was an effort to provide better opportunities for young people.

The Former Speaker was having none of it, delivering the above-quoted smack-down.

Reich is a walking talking point, and the perfect example of the factless, thoughless way in which liberal talking heads ingest and regurgitate the same tired, trite finger-pointing regardless of circumstance and in the face of all of reason and information to the contrary. If Reich doesn’t have “Democrats Rule, Republicans Drool” tattooed somewhere unspeakable I’ll be more than surprised.

Gingrich shows how to deal with lame, lazy, bigotry like that displayed routinely by the mouthpieces of the Democrat party. Nice job, Mr. Speaker.

Here is the full transcript of the segment, courtesy of Newsbusters.

JONATHAN KARL, SUBSTITUTE HOST: And let me ask you, Mr. Gingrich, Speaker, when you look at that issue of inequality – and this is something he’s put front and center, the Pope has. It’s something of course that President Obama talks a lot about. We saw the story about homelessness in New York–

NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Sure.

KARL: Stark reality of the gap in the nation’s biggest city. Is this an issue that Republicans should be talking about?

GINGRICH: Absolutely. I mean, how can you justify the level of wealth in those big towers in New York City and the level of poverty in those alleys? And without talking about government, say, surely a society that cared, that believed every person was endowed by their creator with the right to pursue happiness, would come up with a better solution than 22,000 children that are homeless.

And I think that the Republican Party has an obligation to rethink some of its indifference to the very poor. And I think the Democrats have an obligation to ask themselves after 50 years of the war on poverty, isn’t it clear that government is not a very good [unintelligible].

(CROSSTALK)

ROBERT REICH: The war on poverty – which next year we are going to celebrate the 50th anniversary in addition to the Civil Rights Act – the war on poverty was successful for a time. What has happened however over the last 30 years is that much of the, much of the ardor, much of the concern, much of the, what propelled that war on poverty has dissipated.

KARL: Why after five years of President Barack Obama we see the problem worse?

REICH: Well the problem is worse; I think it has something to do, perhaps, with the intransigence of the Speaker’s Party, because every time there was a jobs bill, every time there was an effort to expand a low income housing, every time there was an effort to provide better opportunities for young people. We’re talking about equal opportunity.

GINGRICH: Every major, every, this is baloney.

REICH: At the basis of this, what is baloney?

GINGRICH: Here’s the baloney. Every major city which is a center of poverty is run by Democrats. Every major city. Their policies have failed, they’re not willing to admit and the fact is it’s the poor who suffer from bad government.

Transcript Clarification H/T to Scooper Unionville.

About 

Caleb Howe is a blogger, tweeter, and owner of shoes. He has been writing at RedState for a decade, and has also been a contributor to AOL’s Political Machine, Mediaite, and the men’s humor website Asylum. Caleb was born in the lost colony of Roanoke and raised by a pack of wild accountants. He has been described as “accidentally funny,” “annoying,” “a right wing nutbag,” and most commonly, “who??” A former graphic designer, web developer, and United States Marine, Caleb is now a full time internet schmuck and gadabout.

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  • Press Watchusa

    And the STATES as well!

    RepublicanConservative run states are doing much better

    BUT – Facts are useless to democRATS

    http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/64934-republican-governed-states-crush-democrats-in-economic-competitiveness-rankings/

    oops! – Just noticed that blowhard Christie (R)ino is failing >> # 42 New Jersey (R/D)

    • Bill589

      You are right. But concerning Rinos – change your ‘bold’ statement to ‘Conservative run states are doing much better’ and you’d be more accurate.

      • Press Watchusa

        Done!

  • Kem Cho

    Typical liberal, Riech blames Republicans for his party’s dumb and idiotic ideas to eliminate poverty. They rather handout fish than tell people to go and fish themselves. How can they? They believe themselves to be morally superior to those heartless rich Republicans. Anybody can be generous by taking money from me and give to what they consider poor. They forget, I may get poor too … because you can only take so much from me.

    • toongoon

      Yep, taking money our money and giving it to poor wealthy democrat donors does give them a feeling of moral superiority.

    • Crassus

      Most libs like Reich think that the only reason the war on poverty has failed is because we haven’t spent enough. Talk about your mental disorders.

      • dominigan

        And yet liberals like him are the stingiest of the stingy. They don’t care about the poor other than using them as political fodder in their war on Republicans. If they cared more, they would give to charity. But every poll conducted on the topic always says the same thing… conservatives give more and liberals give less.

    • FreeManWalking

      Not only do they not want to teach them how to fish, they don’t even want them to know that fish live in the water.

      This goes right to the heart of minimum wage issue, The Democrats raise the minimum wage beyond the point where busineses can have entry-level jobs in order for young people to understand what it is to work and earn money

      • toongoon

        Excellent comparison.

    • warpmine

      They also change the goal lines defining what poverty level is.

      Here’s a level headed approach to get people working again….stop giving them everything for sitting on their azz.

  • Vorlath -

    If we eliminated liberalism, socialism and communism in the US, that would go a long to eliminating poverty. Free markets have helped get more people out of poverty than any other system. History is on record proving this fact. But liberal/socialists refuse to admit this because it would be admitting that they were wrong.

    • Fiveseven

      It would not only be admitting that they’re wrong, but that they’re not an integral part of the solution. To paraphrase the CEO of Whole Foods, who said it best: Liberals and the intellectual elite hate the free market because it places no value on them. They can’t stand seeing intellectual “inferiors” like business people making more money than they do, and succeeding without depending on them. So the leftists do everything they can to subvert, marginalize, and otherwise suppress free market principles.

      • JohnCraven

        Ditto! Fiveseven! Ditto!
        Great quote from the CEO of Whole Foods!
        John Craven
        New Orleans

    • JohnCraven

      Ditto! Vorlath! Ditto!
      John Craven
      New Orleans

  • unionville

    The last word Gingrich said was government. “it’s the poor who suffer from bad government.”

    • Caleb Howe

      Bless you. Updating now.

    • Caleb Howe

      Updated and h/t to you. Thanks!

      • unionville

        You’re welcome!

    • JohnCraven

      Bad goverment is big government – unlimited and unfettered – that is bad government.
      John Craven
      New Orleans

  • toongoon

    It sho is funny how republicans are to blame for all of the bad stuff whether they are in control or not.
    Robert Reichhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-ah is a moron.

    • FreeManWalking

      Evidently shorty didn’t want to give Bush all the credit so he spread it around to all the Republicans.

  • timerunnersc

    Robert Reich, a well known liberal Democrat racist.

    • JohnCraven

      Thanks for posting this timerunnersc. Reich is clearly racist in his remarks but then again Marxism and liberalism go hand in hand with racism.
      John Craven
      New Orleans

      • timerunnersc

        @J.Craven,

        yes they do wear the same badge and to make matters worse they racist against all people, Reich just happen to mention Whites to impress other communist, socialist Marxist groups who were listen in at the time. I guess the Union leaders weren’t listening. But to make matters worse Reich said not give the jobs to white, or others High “Skilled people who were already professional” that statement covers other races based on how skilled they were at the time Reich made this statement. I guess those at the time the skilled & professionals weren’t listen either.
        I know of a bridge that was being built by unskilled labor and I can’t recall the company or if that bridge was in our state but it was about 1/2 in construction, well as it went the federals came and did an inspection, the Mexican company had screwed up so back and left out so many of the specks requirements the bridge had to be demolished and the bridge had to be completely rebuilt. But this time a skilled bridge building company was brought in. How many millions were lost on this project? For back construction, for not meeting construction deadlines, criminality for violating state? & federal< construction specks, fraud etc. All this reminds me of Obama green job failures.

        So I wonder how much of this has been happening since Reich made his racist and this ridiculous labor statement.
        This whole ministration is criminal and fraud is running rampant.
        Even being fraud right down to hiring a sign language person so the deaf could know what the communist Marxist were saying about Mandela.
        I couldn't help but laugh because the slinging arms and hands of the guy doing the sign language reminded me of how Obama is flinging and slinging every time we see him in a news conference these days. He over here , hes over there, hes everywhere.
        Sad that republicans just do not realize or do not care about just how absolutely ridiculous they look in all this.

        • JohnCraven

          timerunnersc, all I know is that every time Nero Obama opens his mouth a lie flies out and his ears get bigger. He looks right now like Dumbo the Elephant.

          Rush and others have chastised Pope Francis no end about his “unfettered capitalism” and “trickle down” remarks. Yet, we live in a very “fettered” economic system in the United States and the only “unfettered economies” are like the very one you described in your response which is totally corrupt. One which Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh have talked at length about and which they either call “crony capitalism” or “corporatism” where one is only “fettered” by how much money one can stick in Nero Obama’s or a congressmen’s pockets. It is the kind of economic system which is rapidly taking over in our nation thanks to Nero Obama.

          John Craven
          New Orleans

          • timerunnersc

            Just as I heard just a few minutes ago we have a government working outside the restraints of the law inside our Gov’t.
            I just heard that line repeated, I have heard it many times in the past, and its still being pouted loud and clear.

            Judge rules against teh NSA SPY Ringers:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order

            US President John F. Kennedy Warning, To Americans:

            US President Eisenhower’s Warning, To Americans:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFxLGQoXFb0

            Seems Americans have come to love their, popcorn and tyrants rather than their once cherished love’s, freedom & liberty.

            Now please pass the butter while the popcorn is hot Oprah, J.Springer and Dr Phil-good is on the boob-tube. (carsa).

            • JohnCraven

              You know timerunnersc, I am profoundly grateful that you posted these two very profound warnings from Kennedy and Eisenhower. They go hand in hand with each other.

              Recently, Pope Francis has taken a lot of heat – mostly from Rush Limbaugh – about his warning about “unfettered capitalism” and at first, I was puzzled about what in the world he was talking about until I listened to comments made by Fr. Robert Sirico of the Acton Institute which promotes a “free economy” and “capitalism” as the best way for the poor to get out of poverty.

              The Pope, in talking about “unfettered capitalism” is not talking about the economy which we have known in this country since our founding but he is talking about “cronyism” whether it be “crony capitalism” or “crony Marxism” or in the case of Nero Obama he is talking about both.

              Since Franklin Roosevelt and really since Woodrow Wilson and the creation of the Federal Income Tax and the IRS, our economy has become increasingly “fettered” with the exception of the “cronies” of the politicians in power.

              Nero Obama is the best example of what happens when cronies of the president can stuff enough money in his pocket and he waives this regulation and that mandate for them without batting an eye. That is “unfettered capitalism” where as long as you can fill a politician’s pocket with enough change you can get whatever you hope for. That’s what Nero Obama was really talking about when he said “hope and change”.

              Eisenhower was warning about that very thing when he talked about the military/industrial complex and Kennedy was saying much the same thing with regards to secrecy and secret deals and secret societies.

              Pope John Paul II, in his encyclical Centessimus Annus on the 100th anniversary of Pope Leo XIII encyclical Rerum Novarum – on Capital and Labor – said that in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union and Marxism, clearly capitalism was victorious but he distinguished between “good capitalism” which the church would unwaveringly support and “bad capitalism” which it could not support and he specifically said that “good capitalism” should be referred to as “free economies” or “free market systems”.

              Pope John Paul II lived under two examples of state-run economies which both failed miserably.

              Pope Francis lived under the “unfettered capitalism” of “crony capitalism” which Rush and Mark Levin have been calling “corporatism” of late and others have called “corporate welfare”. Crony capitalism is the economic system in Argentina and throughout much of Latin America.

              So I think the warnings which you posted from Kennedy and Eisenhower actually go hand in hand with the ones issued by Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis and keep in mind the church has seen every economic system ever produced by man over the last 2000 years and so we should take all of these warnings together and heed them.

              Sorry about the lengthy reply.

              John Craven
              New Orleans

              • timerunnersc

                @J.Craven, Yeah warnings have come to America many times in many different forms, seems a lot of Americans just seem to miss the signs until the dam breaks and then they wake up and start moving in the correct direction. But this time it much worse and the worse is yet to happen.
                I enjoyed reading every word. I’m not knowledgeable about some of the things you mentioned, but I got the Marxist crony capital part down pat.
                My word for this bunch of DC scum is treason.

                respectfully

                • JohnCraven

                  TREASON is definitely the word to use for this DC scum as you so appropriately state it, timerunnersc!
                  John Craven
                  New Orleans

  • toongoon

    “…every time there was a jobs bill, every time there was an effort to expand a low income housing, every time there was an effort to provide better opportunities for young people.”
    I think Reich confused opportunity with handout. It’s a little mistake that big brother progressive’s make all the time.

    • JohnCraven

      toongoon, Reich wasn’t confused. He just lied to hide the truth.
      John Craven
      New Orleans

  • sonofliberty

    50 yrs on the war on poverty ..costing taxpayers over $16 trillion dollars. but americans in poverty live like the 1% compared to the rest of the world !!

  • jrt

    I voted for Gingrich in the primaries and really thought he would have been the best candidate to go head to head with BO
    Baloney is right!!! that’s what we are now stuck with.

  • Bill589

    Newt is, of course, right on this.

    But I want to say, I’m torn about Newt.
    There are conservatives that like him a lot, but being only a handful of years old in politics, I know Newt first from him working along side Sharpton, and concerning something else, Pelosi. So I was surprised to find out he was a conservative leader in the 90s.

    Is he Big Government GOP, or for We The People? I don’t know. But with those first impression pictures of him sitting along side Sharpton and Pelosi, it may take a while for me to trust him.

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      Newt’s stance on homosexuals ‘marrying’ (leaving it to the states)- is wrong. I’d forgotten those disturbing things you mentioned.

      Newt’s gifted w/a certain amount of intellect- demonstrated in his later comment on this clip, but his track record (including, but not limited to, the things you mentioned) has not always revealed the best judgement.

      In this piece, Newt seems to bash those successful in capitalism in New York with nice buildings (where many likely find gainful employment and work hard) asking how can you justify the wealth there? Are they all stingy when it comes to charity or are there possibly some who are very generous people? Was dishonest gain involved?

      All Christians and I’d guess many other conservatives are not indifferent to poor people, who Jesus told us we would always have with us.

      I’m sure numerous people affiliated w/all political parties are indifferent to the very poor. I wonder what he had in mind when he bashed Republicans here with his ‘rethink some of their indifference to the very poor’ comment? Was it policy related since he referred to those in a certain political party? If not, why not just stick to saying society in general?

      Christians should care for the fatherless, the widow, the disabled, the elderly feeble who don’t have enough to live on, the infirmed… anyone who is unable to support themselves. And Christians should try to help the homeless by winning them to Christ, Who will radically change their lives around, and by helping them to find work, if they’re able-bodied.

      For the rest, if they choose to pursue their happiness in their next fix, in booze, gambling away their money, etc. or just plain laziness, you reap what you sow.

      ‘For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.’
      -II Thess. 3:10 (ESV)

      • JohnCraven

        Ditto! Galatiansch2vs20! Ditto!
        John Craven
        New Orleans

    • JohnCraven

      Ditto! Bill589! Ditto!
      John Craven
      New Orleans

    • nibblesyble

      Hiya Bill, I think I can answer the Sharpton question, Sharpton believes in School choice and Newt knew that going around to heavily black communities that he would need someone to come with him that would help him reach out to them. As for Pelosi, he has no excuses for that, not his best moment! I think where Newt is concerned look at his actions, under his speakership they reformed entitlements and lowered taxes and balanced the budget…never has been done since. All political figures disappoint and let us down, so I have learned to take the good with the bad if the good outweighs the bad.

  • Guest

    This is a comedy, right? Otherwise, Robert Reich would not be there. Nor would Cokie Roberts. The only intelligent person in the room, was Newt Gingrich.

  • Attila_the_hun

    The reason collectivism in any form(from liberalism to hard core Marxism) always fails because it is contrary to human survival. Collectivism can only implemented either by brutal force or deception aka obamacare. You can only oppress or deceive people to a point, at the end all hell breaks lose.
    And revolutions begins.
    The truth is that neither The Soviet Union nor Detroit could scape the forces of basic economics, you can’t empty the cookie jar and expect it will magically be refilled.
    Individualism always defeats collectivism because the law of nature is more powerful than tyranny of man

  • FreeManWalking

    But but but but wait a minute but wait a minute I refuse to acknowledge your FACTS.

    • SineWaveII

      Of course he does…he’s a college professor.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    Ya gotta love Newt! Fastest wit East of the Mississippi!

  • timsrighty

    What comes after “wait a minute, wait a minute”?

  • FreeManWalking

    Someone needs to tell Robert “Shorty” Reicccch that giving money to Solyndra and the other electric car companies, and green energy companies wasn’t meant to help the poor. The 0b0’s kick backs to political donors didn’t trickle down to help the poor.

  • marketcomp

    Is it disturbing to anyone that Reich is documenting 50 years of war on poverty like it’s some kind of event but has proven to be disastrous. For Reich to say,”every time there was a jobs bill, every time there was an effort to expand a low income housing, every time there was an effort to provide better opportunities for young people.” Expand low-income housing is not helping anyone, Mr. Reich, “Mr. Economist!” What a joke he is. Oh yea, how has is it working out helping the young people find jobs and then hit them with Obama care, Mr. economist? These people can not be this stupid! Really!

    • SineWaveII

      I loved that Reich had the nerve to bring up “low income housing”.

      Whenever leftwingers bring that up to me I hit them with two “words”

      “HUD Projects” – and I ask them ..do you want to live in the projects?

      When they answer no I say “then shut up about it”.

    • JohnCraven

      marketcomp, they’re not that stupid! They know exactly what they are saying and it is all meant to deceive, to hide the truth behind some scapegoat and Newt Gingrich simply isn’t letting him get away with it for the most part. It is not true what Gingrich said about Republicans being indifferent about the plight of the poor.

      Actually, I should say that is not true that conservatives are indifferent about the plight of the poor. It is that conservatives want to do things which actually help the poor out of their plight and it is democrats and big government republicans who put forth programs which keep the poor in their plight and dependent on – you guessed it – Big Government.

      John Craven
      New Orleans

      • marketcomp

        Good point. I like Gingrich, sometimes. Just being honest.

  • tinlizzieowner

    “Every Major City Which Is a Poverty Center Is Run By Democrats”.
    And has been for generations. ;-)

    • JohnCraven

      Thanks for posting this tinlizzieowner. It made my day.
      John Craven
      New Orleans

  • jfreddick

    How many NYC phone books was the good former Labor Secy using as a booster seat, 2 or 3?

  • cattastrophe

    You can only push Newt so far with blatant lies before he’s gonna let you have it with both barrels of truth right between the eyes.

  • timsrighty

    Send in the clowns and ‘ol Newt will send them packing every time. Oh wait he made that stupid ad with Pelosi. Newt’s still batting .995.

  • Jose

    Newt claiming the GOP is indifferent to the poor really ticks me off. That’s BS

    • Jaels_Song

      Kinda peeved me off too.

    • Michael Goldman

      `whether you think they are or aren’t isn’t important to the argument…the fact that progressive programs are hurting the poor is the key point.

  • nibblesyble

    Love me some Newt! I do wonder what he meant regarding the repubs, I think he meant it is the ‘perception’ that we do not care about the poor,(media driven) because I have heard him many times say that our side cares about the poor but wants the Gov’t to get out of their way instead of hinder them. Look at his debate performances, especially when he took on Juan Williams!

  • Yazz55

    After almost 50 yrs of govt spending taxpayer $$$$$$$$$$ on this “war on poverty”, we need to evaluate its accomplishments or failures. It hasn’t eliminated or reduced poverty. Just a massive spending program accompanied by a massive bureaucracy. That in turn is an invitation to fraud.
    I’d argue that its accomplished increasing poverty and creates a massive dependence on govt, which in turn makes them slaves who need to vote for the demokkkrat party just to insure their daily survival.
    Someone should compile just how much has been spent, or more appropriately wasted and how people have been forced into poverty as a result of it all. Also need to evaluate how many more are below the poverty level after almost 50 yrs in raw numbers as well as percent of the population. My answer is that this is a program that we wouldn’t need, if we didn’t have it. Its only purpose is to guarantee votes for one political party.

    • ApplePie101

      The so-called War on Poverty was in fact a war on the middle class. Its effect was to ghettoize the poorer citizens of the US and make them dependent from generation to generation upon alms from the government. It was a successful program to reinstate slavery.

    • Suzyqpie

      If there was any accountability to government, the war on poverty would be labeled the greatest failure of government in the history of the world. Thomas Sowell explained the process and goal of the war on poverty in one sentence, “The poor are the human shields that government uses to grow government.”

    • GWAR44

      Well the major accomplishment, as LBJ said…The n*****s will be voting democrat for the next 200 years….50 down 150 to go…..

  • DHardy

    Demonrats love the down trodden they are easily manipulated and led by the nose and the dangling carrot looks like a feast to the starving. Demonrats are pure greed. It’s all about them. they look at our citizens as minion

  • Sentinel

    Liberals project… conservatives protect. Demoncraps have been overrun by the lice known as progressivism.

  • HCTUB

    Newt Gingrich is right . Just check out what he said , but people are to lazy to do so . As for Robert Reich he should go back under his rock , and hide in shame . I remember him back when some people used to listen to him . Are what’s the point he’s just a wast of time .

  • AlecJ

    Robert Reich is a perfect example of someone the left considers smart but everything he says is hilariously inane. He worships at the church of statism where there is no need for reality based thought.

  • Suzyqpie

    We get more of whatever our government subsidizes. Our government subsidizes poverty & failure. Muse for a moment, what if our government subsidizes success & achievement.

    • badbadlibs

      Bingo!
      But, Suzypie, if that happened the Reich’s of this country would have to do what it seems comes the very hardest for mankind: Admit to being wrong.
      It’s “Pride” that goes before, NOT a fall, but before Destruction.

      • Suzyqpie

        What gargantuan size will the debris field have to achieve before the democrats perform some introspection. The poor are now fleeting into America, literally by the millions, both legal and illegal to join Americas poor. Open borders, which we have, generous welfare, which we most certainly have, delivers us, US, to the fiscal disaster that is our governance. Math is coming and will, in some manner, drag WDC to that introspection.

        • badbadlibs

          America is a huge nation with a wealth that will take a bit more time to ruin then say, Greece.

          • $733159

            That’s true, but America’s federal government is 17 $trillion in debt. America may be a wealthy nation, but the United States is broker than Greece.

  • 31068

    Newt with all of his baggage would still be a better President than Obama could ever hope to be. Newt was correct, every City that is run by democrats is loaded with poverty. The State of California is run by democrats, it is always in red ink and their answer is higher taxes.

    • trytothink

      Newt goes off subject sometimes and I think following his run as Speaker, he did some things to try to be liked by the media — but I remember listening him read through The Contract With America back in the mid 90’s. I remember feeling tears in my eyes because I was listening to a guy who “got it” and was now at one of the top positions in government. I remember the feeling that Reagan’s legacy — which had been derailed with George HW Bush and then Clinton — was being reimplemented.

      I remember the feelings of helplessness during the George W. years with his Republican House and Senate as they did absolutely nothing in budget after budget to curtail the spending.

      Newt would have been an astoundingly better President than Obama, Romney, McCain, George W., Hillary, and on and on.

    • Morganfrost

      Yes, he would be better than President Obama, but that’s damning him with faint praise.

    • GWAR44

      Yes, since I live in what was once called California, I know….We are being over run by the latest entitlement group…..illegals…they have come out of the shadows yelling..me..me..me….stupid gringos….

    • russedav

      I’m sure there are some (e.g. Reid & Pelosi & Schumer & Durbin) but it’s hard to think of ANYONE who could be a worse POTUS than 0bama, both past & present.

  • GWAR44

    The democrat party has become a cult…they all talk the same ,look the same act the same. It is amazing that the American people are so dumbed down as to not see through their tired old talking points….If this “President” doesent open their eyes to whats wrong with giving them power, nothing will….

  • iaintlyin

    shhhhh, be careful with the truth Newt, you’ll be called names

  • Jeff Hamilton

    Newt has too much baggage to be elected President, but I think he’d be pretty damn good at the job.

  • russedav

    It’s fundamentally a matter of godhood. Dems *know* they’re god and thus deserve to govern, highly resenting the interference of the true God! while despite many individual exceptions the GOP at least pretends to allow people to acknowledge the true God, unlike the DNC that formally excised even mention of Him in the 2012 party platform, no matter the lies of the chair that said reinsertion of mention of Him passed when it did not (under special rules it required a 2/3 affirmative vote vs the 50% it rather obviously got.

  • http://teresainfortworth.wordpress.com/ Teresa in Fort Worth, TX

    Well, one of the reasons that “poverty” has increased under President Obama is because this administration not only moved the goalposts. they passed a law which ties the poverty level to the minimum wage.

    In other words, they CREATED more “poor” people, and made it such that their numbers will NEVER decrease.

    Idiots.

  • God Mann

    Newt. Doesn’t he do GEICO commercials?

  • Larry

    How DARE NEWT GIngrich speak a truth!

  • warpmine

    That verbal smack down was hard enough to take on physical characteristics.

  • Tom Servo

    This show would have been better if Robert Reich would have been wearing a green felt crown and pointed shoes, and carried a little scepter, and then maybe he could dance around and ride circles on the back of some big dog. And then a monkey could steal his crown and he could chase the monkey while the monkey laughed at him.

    Now that would make Robert Reich worth watching.

    • CalCoolidge

      I spoke to Reich on the CSPAN call-n show. I congratulated him, as the first person in my long that I ever heard – who was wrong about EVERYTHING. I said he should be declared a national treasure and labeled nature’s perfect negative barometer.

      • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

        Heh.

  • warpmine

    Baltimore’s poverty was doing so good that the state decided to install him as dictator err governor and he’s doing the expected making the state of MD even more of a socialist utopia

  • Pete Gardner

    Love Gingrich and his Truth Bombs! Just don’t want him to be President anymore, now that I know he’s for Big Govt. But no one can beat him in a debate!

  • CalCoolidge

    ” And I think the Democrats have an obligation to ask themselves after 50 years of the war on poverty, isn’t it clear that government is not a very good [unintelligible].”

    As soon as he said Democrats, I would have bet the farm a table full of liberals was not going to allow him to finish that sentence.

    And the whole time Reich was fantasizing, the trained liberal seals remained quiet.

  • Gary

    Another Commie shill for Obozo. “EQUAL OPPORTUNITY” = Steal from workers to give to parasitic welfare bums (however, the Commie politicians tend to keep a lot of those stolen taxes for their own pet “pork” projects and to line their own pockets). That’s why Detroit, Chicago, New York, Cleveland, Wash. D.C. and every other Commie Dem controlled City is either going into or near bankruptcy and has a huge rich-poor widening gap. Big Govt. doesn’t know how to manage a check book let alone run a City, County, State or Country and they never will.

    • CalCoolidge

      It’s more than the falsity of it. It’s the unmitigated arrogance. None of these pinheads has ever had a real job. Obama, Clinton, Biden, Shumer. Opportunity arises when someone builds or creates something of value. Apple computer created opportunities.

      How is that pathetic group of the economically useless dunderheads going to create opportunity for millions? From what? Their vast experience at destroying opportunity.

      • Quartermaster

        If you check you’ll find the places with the greatest income inequalities are run by liberals. The more it costs to form a family in a given area, the less likely you are to find a strong middle class. The middle class has been run out of places like New York City and San Francisco.

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          “Hey McFly, I thought I told you never to come in here!”

          Nice to see you, QM!

          • Quartermaster

            Back atcha there KB!

      • bleedinell

        Cal !!!
        We’ve missed you!
        Would you be up for the job again?

  • Laurel

    I guess people missed the back handed slap Gingrich handed to Republicans. Coming from the same man who reformed welfare it makes him a hypocrite.

    • tex_ronson

      I noticed that myself.

    • nibblesyble

      Hi Laurel, I may have some slight bias toward Newt(O.K. I Love him!) but I agree that he did not say it the way he should. I watched the man through out the primaries and he always spoke of how the Repubs were made to look like we did not care for the poor because of the media and the fact we hate big gov’t.. I think if he has a do over he may rephrase it.

      • Laurel

        I don’t. Gingrich is all about whatever will gain him notoriety and keep his name in the news and make bank.

        And there are no do over’s.

        I’m going to edit and add if he thinks they get such a bad rap why is he adding to it. At some point in time people need to wake up to the old guard and realize they got us right where we are now.

        • nibblesyble

          I don’t put any political figure on a pedestal as I learned they all let us down at some point. I love Newt but also know his failings, but as he was the only Speaker to reform entitlements and balance the budget(not done since!)he gets a life time of kudos from me!

          • Laurel

            And undone since. While appreciate what he did it doesn’t give him license to talk out both sides of his mouth…and incorrectly I might add.

            • nibblesyble

              Yeah, nothing he can say or do can undo what he did, it was epic. He put his words into action. Plus his defense of Sarah Palin endured me to him forever.I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree on Newt..we have plenty of other important things we heartily agree on!

              • Laurel

                Yep! As I said he has his usefulness but I do get tired of his random shooting of his mouth off as well.

                • nibblesyble

                  : )

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          I think that’s a bit over the top. Newt has his problems and baggage like very other politican. But in general he’s been closer to the kind of mindset we’re looking for in fighting against the left than most other so-called conservatives.

          He’s not running for President any more, so no need to be “warning” people about him. Just let him fight and make the points we need made. He’s usually very good at that, for all his squishy impulses of the past.

          • Laurel

            And that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it along with making the same mistakes over and over again while expecting different results. Keep the same people in power. Keep the same talking heads in front of the cameras to represent you and nothing will ever change. Like it or not Newt is one of the faces of the Republican Party and conservatives to boot.

            And what I pointed to wasn’t a mistake of the past. Listen to the dig he takes at Republicans about the poor in the segment. That is far from past and is pandering. Every single time some idiotic talking head throws out a gratuitous shot it comes back around to bite us. I bet some libtard will be quoting him on the blogs while they push their socialism or warped twisted POV or using it to manipulate in some way.

            What is worse is it isn’t even remotely correct. It perpetuates a stereotype that isn’t true even in the remotest sense.

            • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

              This isn’t the primary, and he isn’t running for anything. I hardly think it’s making a mistake to admit he’s done, politically. He’s not “in power” so “keeping him in power” has nothing to do with what I wrote.

              We have all kinds of conservatives. He’s definitely in the better group. Unfortunately, the better group still includes a LOT of folks who are screwups. We keep getting backstabbed by some of the most promising conservatives. So obviously we’re stuck with under-performers in our camp.

              Even so, those screwups are FAR better than guys like John McCain and Karl Rove.

              • Laurel

                Sorry but absolutely no. I do not, nor will I accept someone because they are a lesser evil in comparison to others.

                If conservatives are going to clean house then by all means do so but don’t forget the trash overflowing in the kitchen.

                Newt said what he said, it isn’t ancient history, and it adds to overall false stereotype of conservatives. It gives fodder to the left. If Newt is going to be on tv and speak in the name and or cause of conservatism he damn well better get it right. It’s like terrorism…we have to be right all of the time because the deck is stacked against us.

                And while I think Newt is much smarter than Karl, he like everyone in DC, love the one they are with.

    • http://politicalknow.blogspot.com/ SheerPolitics

      It was a smack, but that doesn’t mean Newt thinks we should increase welfare. That’s a democrat belief. Hand out government cheese and keep the people dependent on big government. There are other ways that help the poor, such as making it easier to expand businesses. Quit doing the things that keep people become dependent on government help. Democrat politicians don’t care about the poor, they care about votes and staying in power. And if you’re worried about your government check coming, you’ll be sure and vote for the party that’s giving it to you.

      But he’s right about the GOP. They are reactive vs. proactive. We had a chance to reform healthcare–allowing insurance across state lines, letting parents keep their kids on their policy longer–the more popular ideas that will save consumer’s money. But the insurance companies don’t want to have to compete across state lines and I’m sure they donate to both parties. So they sat on their hands.

      Then when democrats came out with Obamacare, suddenly we have all kinds ideas–too late! They HAD to know democrats would try to push some form of socialized medicine again and still they did nothing. Then the democrats stand up with the wrong plan and (usually) end up looking like heroes. And the GOP look like do-nothings that don’t care.

      • Laurel

        I love how people do the origami to defend what Newt says. He is a big government Republican pandering to both sides to earn a buck. It’s that simple. Whether he means it or not…he said it. It is awfully hypocritical coming from the guy who complains about media portrayal of Republicans and he engineered the most comprehensive welfare reform ever. The only thing he accomplished was reinforcing the stereotype he complains about.

        And it comments like that as to why he failed to get the nomination. It makes people distrust him. Sad part is I still like the guy and think he has value but let’s stop twisting ourselves to bend over to conform to what we would like him to be and accept him for what he is.

        And BTW…his comment was inaccurate. Conservatives give more to charity than any other group.

        “We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
        created them.”~Einstein

  • Curiousmoi

    Knockout for Gingrich…too bad they are DEAF to truth

  • Quartermaster

    Robert “Third” Reich loses again. You’d think he’d learn, but he’s so deaf, nothing can penetrate his mental fog.

  • Rafael J Godinez

    Demorats don’t care about poor people. They could all die for all they care. All they want is control over the government. All demorats deserve to be treated like the rats they are – go to Home Depot and get what you need to rid your place of rats.

  • ssohara

    I actually respect Reich, in that I think he actually cares about people and has personal integrity. I absolutely do NOT agree with Reich, don’t get me wrong, but I think he actually does care about people, unlike Obama. As far as Gingrich – people thought Romney was a better candidate because Gingrich scares people, pi**es them off, etc., but Romney lost to Obama regardless of how electable he was. At least if Gingrich had been our candidate, we would have enjoyed ourselves and gotten to see “the One” sweat a bit. Maybe next election cycle we should just vote for the guy who can best defend conservatism and not the guy who we deem electable. (I tend to be more Libertarian myself but of the two flavors on offer, I prefer the GOP.)

    • Darrell Griffin

      The problem with liberals is that their policies are based on emotion and not results.

      “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”—–

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      Reich has done and said a few things in the last few years that indicates he knows what a train wreck Obamacare is. But he’s still a massive government guy through and through.

  • phil

    this whole focus on the inequality is pure socialism,

    there is no reason that everybody should be equal, some are successful, some aren’t, and some are lazy,

    the left is trying to use the natural jealousy people have to a successful person, to advance their socialist agenda,

  • Gary Dickson

    So many people assume that government is the solution to poverty. It is not.

    People on the left who claim that they have compassion for the poor and that the solution to that poverty is government “charity” or largesse are deceiving themselves and those for whom they claim to have compassion. Government is law and law, by definition, is not, and cannot be, compassionate.

    I conclude, then, that collectivists use the poor to increase the power of the collective and therefore their own power.

    The only solution to poverty is through the compassion and kindness of individuals, not government.

  • Time4Offense

    Gingrich continues to play Defense with the Left! Think about it… the question was, “When you look at that issue of inequality, is this an issue Republicans should be talking about?”
    The Dems love to frame a debate with a contrived problem (lack of Equality), elevating the problem to prominence (the Pope and Obama talk about it). Then they introduce a villain (Republicans who are un-caring and mean). Then they offer their solution (salvation via the Federal Gov’t– more laws, more money, more Federal control).
    I wish Gingrich had said, “What inequality? Do you mean a Federal Gov’t that is forcing all of us into poverty through their unconstitutional reckless spending and massive debt?”
    We’ve got to stop letting them change the language and the argument!

  • ManaMoffa

    Newt is right, Stop following Ayn Rand, who quite frankly just told the Business man’s side of the story but left out explaining to the currently poor and middle class how the Democrat economic policies are directly responsible for keeping people poor by creating the disadvantage
    For instance, min wage increases might hurt small business but there is clear evidence that it slams the very working poor and the middle class
    Running around claiming the rich and businesses will be so harmed is not the way to get thru to people who don’t have any clue about economics.
    You have to explain to them how the bad Democrat policies effect them and others like them.

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    Equality is the whipping boy of a failed ideology. It’s a concept mired in misery, and lies at the very heart of mass murder and genocide. The crimes are always blamed on inequality.

    So you know a new offensive in this area is a signal that the totalitarianism is ramping up, and you and your property are no longer safe.

    We must have an Article Five Convention to limit these totalitarian fools and their pretense to making things equal.

  • $7337178

    Newt should tell Reich that Obama is making Madoff look like small fries when it comes to scheming. The people living in the upper east side live there off of the monies they steal from the War on poverty.

  • Dramamama54

    Don’t agree with everything Newt says but this is so true! I wish the left could tell us where their socialist policies have ver been a success!!

  • sallyjohanna

    We are experiencing the most powerful Socialist regime ever, in America… and poverty is no longer contained to the largest cities…it is spreading to the middle class all across the nation. Poverty will increase dramatically with the Baby Boomers aging. Socialism is killing America.

    Robert Reich is a dishonest sycophant!

  • Dr. Strangelove

    The large urban centers are run by Democrats and filled with poor. There are probably more poor people in In Chicago than the top ten of these small rural areas listed in your links. Stick with the facts, jack.

  • PVG

    “BALONEY”

  • armyvet10

    Mr. Rathburn, I went to the site you provided and looked up the large cities as listed by Wikipedia for having the highest rate of poverty. Here is the list of cities, the mayor’s party affiliation and the poverty rate Wikipedia listed.
    City Mayor’s Party Poverty Rate
    Detroit Democrat 42.3 %
    Cleveland Democrat 36.4 %
    Cincinnati Democrat 34.1 %
    Miami Republican 31.7 %
    Fresno Could Not find 31.5 % maybe republican
    Buffalo Democrat 30.9 %
    Newark Democrat 30.4 %
    Toledo Independent 30.1 %
    Milwaukee Democrat 29.9 %
    St. Louis Democrat 29.2 %
    Of the ten cities listed I was flabbergasted that Chicago didn’t make the list, but that is irrelevant. Mr. Gingrich is in no way an innocent little lamb, he has had many problems with issues of trust. Still, of the 10 major cities of 250,000 or more in population, there are 7 democrats, 2 republicans (for the sake of argument) and 1 independent. So what does it mean? On this Newt is correct. As he started his explanation, republicans should be concerned, and his point of Major poverty centers, many are Governed by democrats. In the end all politicians who spend money they don’t have only exasperate the poverty issue. 50 years of the war on poverty and we are in worse shape than when we began. If this had been Vietnam, most liberals would be screaming to withdraw.

  • Vorlath -

    Politifact? HAHAHA The site that said that their lie of the year was TRUE in 2009, a half truth in 2010? And claimed that others who was saying that people would lose their healthcare were lying? That site?

    LOL

  • badbadlibs

    Well, come on James, surely you have something to say now?….
    Is that crickets I hear? Typical liberal, can’t handle the actual truth.
    Well, if it was just you and yours that was effected by such an affinity to the truth, it would be one thing. But, it hurts the 22,000 homeless children and every other victim of your liberal stupidity.

  • ratizbad

    Check bankrupt Detroit.. 50 years run by the left.

  • Jeremy Wilson

    James, wouldn’t your first link be irrelevant to the debate since per capita income doesn’t take into account, choice? McNary, Arizona is a place where people choose to live free from government intervention. Wenden, Arizona is even poorer than McNary but isn’t mentioned… their real income is “off the books” Of course I’m sure you just read stats that you thought supported your opinion. As for the other link, majority of the mayors are Democrats. I admit I don’t know most of them but is it possible that some of the republican mayors were recently elected or are RHINO’s?

  • HCTUB

    Thank’s for your comment . So True , but most people are blind to this , and to lazy to find out about it .

  • badbadlibs

    And you vomit lies that are beyond the pale.
    Facts escape your ability to grasp.
    It’s an oddity I can’t really explain, but you liberals never cease to amaze me with your affinity to truth.
    I suppose someday I’ll get over it.

  • cheeflo

    He did not claim that all the poor are under (D) rule. He said every major city which is a center of poverty is run by Democrats. But you’re right. He’s wrong. It’s only 85% of the cities listed at your link that are run by Democrats. That’s not exactly a number to hold up proudly in support of your argument.

  • badbadlibs
  • badbadlibs

    MOST OF AMERICA’S POOR LIVE UNDER DEMOCRAT POLICES!
    There, I used capital letters, maybe now you’ll be convinced….

  • JamesJ

    I know math is hard for progressives, but 3 out of 5 is greater than 2 out of 5.

  • God Mann

    Gingrich said every MAJOR city, and it is the major cities that attract black people.

  • Perseus Wong

    The major cities of the former Soviet Union, 1960s China and North Korea is one giant poverty center operated by parties who draw from the same economic policies as Democrats. Any black people there?

  • Michael Goldman

    I thought Gingrich just did?

    California, Detroit, Illinois, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey…the list of long-time Blue states with serious solvency issues is long and distinguished.

    Is it just a coincidence that the issues in these places has gotten worse with solid long-time Democratic leadership despite their best efforts to blame the Republicans?

    Those are facts. Then look at the long-time Red states…look at poverty levels, solvency, etc. The truth might be clearer to you with some cold, hard numbers.

  • tex_ronson

    So Guest moron, being black means you have a genetic predisposition to poverty? Explain how when black Americans go to college, earn a degree that allows them to have a professional career of some sort they do just as well as white Americans? Your logic is the typical post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, you sir are an idiot.

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    You Democrats are so obsessed with skin color you’re a national embarassment.

    We’ll leave your stupid moby attempt here as an object lesson. But you’re done. Shove off back to Daily Kos or wherever you’re from.

  • badbadlibs
  • cheyennecowboy

    Speaker Gingrich said all major cities that have a poverty problem are run by democrats, NOT, I repeat, NOT, that all cities run by democrats, have a poverty problem. If you can’t quote the truth, quit pontificating! Personally, I would like to send all of the democrats to Asia, Tokyo, or Hong Kong, but that was not the crux of the statement.

  • http://politicalknow.blogspot.com/ SheerPolitics

    Austin is doing fine because it has the rest of TEXAS to keep it in line and it’s policies are not as left like blue states! Racists are not welcome here.

  • cheeflo

    Your argument is that it’s blacks who are the cause the problems? And who does the black community typically vote for? That’s right, Democrats. But the political party of the leadership of the cities is irrelevant? I don’t think so.

  • Quartermaster

    Black Liberals.

  • tex_ronson

    You sir are a racist idiot. It is this very logic that motivated the eugenicists to advocate aborting black babies. What a pathetic miscreant you are. Does your KKK meet this week? Have you cleaned your hood?

  • badbadlibs

    See, that’s just part of your problem (you have many). The homelessness in Seattle is off the charts, the poor are increasing as we speak, IN SPITE OF, not because of liberals.
    Seattle happens to be home to many innovative companies and persons.
    Do I need to list them?
    But, even their money will run out.

  • http://politicalknow.blogspot.com/ SheerPolitics

    No, but there’s a big difference between the economy of Texas vs. Michigan. And Austin is hardly a large city: pop 842,592. Dallas and Houston are much larger. Both have democrat mayors and diverse populations. For the most part state taxes are lower and business are encourage to come here vs. driving them away like the blue states. Overall the population of Texas is more conservative. Nothing to do with race.

  • badbadlibs

    You are a very troubled racist. Now, stop stinking up a very nice place for conservatives to discuss the issues of the day.

  • tex_ronson

    Actually nitwit, I am a 57 year old male with an MBA in Finance / Accounting from the University of Texas at Austin. It is NOT racist to point out correctly that the majority of violent crimes are committed by young black males in particular against other blacks. It IS racist to assert that is a result of them being black, as though there is a genetic predisposition to violence. So answer this genius, are you asserting that blacks, by virtue of an immutable genetic condition, being born black, CAUSES them to be more predisposed to violence? Yes or no.

  • tex_ronson

    What is the problem? Afraid of a direct yes or no question? Are blacks genetically predisposed to violence yes or no? Or is their low IQ the result of them being genetically inferior to other races? Come on you racist piece of filth answer directly.

  • tex_ronson

    Your own rhetoric and refusal to answer a direct simple question has exposed you as the racist reprobate anyone reading this thread understands you to be. Simple yes and no questions always expose the imbecile You are one.

  • armyvet10

    As I stated in the last few sentences of my original post, “In the end all politicians who spend money they don’t have only exasperate the poverty issue.” I did not call for only Democrats to be held accountable, nor did I call for only republicans, but all politicians should be held accountable. As for James Rathburn, I merely pointed out what the data posted on Wikipedia had to state about major cities with the highest poverty rates. The information I provided came from Wikipedia, and as an educator I strongly discourage the use of Wikipedia as a source, but this is the site James Rathburn posted so as a person that likes to see things for themselves, I checked and reported what the site offered as valid numbers. Either way, I am not placing blame on one party or the other, but rather I am being astute in what I read and checking the sources given. If the numbers upsets someone….well they can get mad at Wikipedia.

  • tex_ronson

    Let me see if I can help you parse your limited comprehension of the English language: first regarding poverty you said this: “Stop with the nonsense. The reason major cities are poverty centers is because they are comprised of black people” <<< That means you are asserting by virtue of their RACE they are predisposed to poverty. Then you said this gem: "It is a combination of low IQ and culture though behind the black
    predisposition to commit crime pretty much everywhere they are" You think that blacks have a low IQ, but when blacks are not subject to failed inner city schools, their academic performance improves dramatically. See how this works dipshit?

  • badbadlibs

    You are no different then Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson and the rest of their cabal.
    You have no idea what I think about the GOP.
    That makes you stupid twice.