The Right Scoop
This is why I moved away from da great city a Chicago and have no interest in even visiting there, NY, LA, etc, etc.
This is what happens when people vote for a person of questionable sanity, should be allowed to be in charge of govt., aka Mayor, in a city as large and populace as NYC. If Bloomberg weren't a billionaire Mayor, he would have probably, in all likelihood have already been institutionalized. Amazing..
Do parents really think it's ok for their 14 year daughters, to have without their permisssion- abortion pills.. if not, then they should do something about it- ie; diectly to that idiot Bloomberg himself., as well as the school.. If it were me, I woud file a class action lawsuit against the schools and the City, ie; and specifically Bloomberg himself.
Except for Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, and the rest of the nutjobs in Congress, Bloomberg is the worst elected politician in America.
This is what happens when people vote for a person of questionable sanity, should be allowed to be in charge of govt., aka Mayor, in a city as large and populace as NYC. If Bloomberg weren't a billionaire Mayor, he would have probably, in all likelihood have already been institutionalized.
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Liberty Institute Director of Litigation Hiram Sasser had the unique opportunity to sit down with British Barrister Paul Diamond for an exclusive look at the intense attacks on religious freedom in the United Kingdom. These attacks, Diamond says, are growing in number and are heading our way in the very near future if Americans do not wake up.
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This is no business for the gov't to be in...it is between the kids and their parents..how dare the gov't take over control and make decisions to give these kids this pill? I hope that parents scream out about this issue...If I lived in New York, I would be screaming..but thank God I don't live there...
The left has no interesting in promoting personal responsibility and change in personal behavior. For them, "responsibility" is something for the state to take after a choice is made.
NYC...reaping what it sowed. How else should NYC control the evil they planted at harvest time.
So....................they can't pray in school but they can have all the sex they want and aborth the child without parental permission. I wondered as I was watching how many parents know about this???????????????? Shame on any who would allow the school to give their child the morning after pill!
I'm from NY and I saw this on my local news. A young Black girl said it right, this program will encourage sex because they know if they get pregnant , they will have the back up.
These kids will mindlessly engage in such sex and they know that they will have abortions and birth control to back them. They are not encouraging abstinence and condoms that protect from STD's but instead, want to hand out free birth control and abortions. Not how you solve the problem or teach kids. You teach, not enable. That's what's wrong with America now.
Too many people expect (free) things to solve the problem instead of others teaching them how to prevent the problem all together with safer alternatives.
And as long as we pay our property taxes and continue to blindly send our children to government run schools...there will be no change.
Student: Excuse me nurse, may I have an aspirin or perhaps a Tylenol?
Nurse: Sorry, your parents have not signed the authorization form. Please take this 55 page form to your parents for their signature, legal review, and notarization. You will be limited to 2 aspirin or Tylenols per week.
Student: Well, okay. Stressing over getting pregnant just gives me a headache.
Nurse: Why didn't you just tell me that? Here are three months worth of birth control and a dozen morning-after pills. Oh and I'll even throw in a 10% coupon for Planned Parenthood "services", just in case. Now both the birth-control and morning-after pills have some serious side-effects but don't worry, they aren't as dangerous as aspirin or Tylenol in my opinion, and I'm a nurse.
Student: Thank you so much!!! Do I need to tell my parents about this?
Nurse: Of course not! Don't you listen to your teachers or former Vice President Al Gore? If you did, you would realize your parents don't know as much as you and can't be trusted with this sort of information. Parents don't know anything about birth control. If they did you wouldn't even be here!
Student: Wow, that like makes so much sense. I am so grateful to have a nurse and school administration that really cares about me and my body! Especially my math teacher... (teaser for next episode).
Sure, just make it easier to get an abortion on demand. Instead of teaching kids that they maybe should wait a bit to have sex, they give up and do everything they can to offer even more abortion options to kids. Just pathetic.
I'm not Catholic, so I don't have a problem with the "morning after pill". I know some may consider it an abortion pill, but my views of when it becomes an actual "life" are different than many here. It's early, but I don't believe it's as soon as the morning after. That's just my belief and I don't harbor any ill feeling to anyone who believes it's at conception.
That being said, the schools can hand out the pills but if a teen is Catholic should they not be practicing abstinence anyway? When I was in highschool there was a nearby private religious school, and we were constantly getting transfers from girls who got pregnant at that school. The pregnancy rate there was the highest in the state, and it always boggled my mind because they teach abstinence there. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing teaching abstinence and I unsuccessfully tried to teach it to my daughter, but is there a negative, unintented consequence from it? Rebellion maybe?
RS is definitely right that liberals don't address the root problem. They want to allow any behavior to go unchecked and they will address the symptoms and the results coming from that behavior. I'll have to leave the solution to this one up to someone else because I don't have one. My experience has been that teaching abstinence doesn't work, but maybe because of the atmosphere they were being taught? I mean, a religious school generally taking away a person's teenage years? This school didn't even allow dancing, so it could be part of general rebellion.
I feel we should not let our politicians mire us in their relativism, by combining the moral and religious question, with the question of the role of governemt.
The question we should force our Aliskyite politicians to answer before we hand them power over our moral and religious choice, is: "At what point, from conception to death, does does the government's most essential duty to protect our right to life begin?"
I totally agree this is not government's role to intervene. School's have no business taking it upon themselves to hand out the pill even if one believes the pill is ok. It is not their job, nor is it a politician's job. Regardless of whether one accepts the pill, it is a family matter.
I'm glad to hear it worked for you. It's nice to hear success stories.
My daughter lived with her mother and I tried to talk about these things, but....I can't even get her to talk about politics now so just imagine how much she didn't want to talk about sex issues, lol.
I lucked out. She is 21 and has never gotten pregnant, and she is waiting to have kids until she's married and has a stable life. Other parents aren't so lucky.
Now, that there's funny! :)
Sounds like your Spanish teacher knew how to make a point about the impairment caused by alcohol, huh?
No simple answer on how to get kids *not* to do what nature has programmed in their bodies. We, the wife and I, simply use the news, ads, and TV shows to have "teachable moments" and use those times to teach them our expectations. Easier to do it then instead of waiting until some young man is at the door for his date.
When our two girls were younger (around 7 or 8 I would guess) the natural questions would come up because of what was on TV. Instead of shying away, we would give them an honest answer (made age appropriate, of course) but we dealt with the questions head-on rather than ignore or change the subject.
As they got older, keeping the anecdote about Ms Ten Boom in mind, when they were *ready* for the knowledge, we adjusted the answers. Our oldest is now 24, single and working to get her career in finance on firm footing, our youngest is a senior in HS. They are both very aware of what boys want (the advantage of not sugar coating the answers) but at this point in their lives, they know that it's a big deal and will impact their lives in ways that they can understand. Their choice to abstain was and is based on what *they* want with little or no pressure from me... their Mom? Well, let's just say that she has a little saying, "It goes like this 'Marriage *then* kids not kids then marriage'". I now also let Mom handle their questions because as young women, that's far more appropriate.
I still have a 15 year-old son, and when he asks "those" questions regarding sex, I address it the same way but also let him know that with the change in his young body, his mind is being overrun by hormones that will cloud his judgement... while I'm sure that was covered in health class, he will need to hear it over and over (the sex hormones were a b$ch as I remember from my own painful episodes in school). I have also made sure that he understands that while there are *easy* girls, he can do *much* better than that (again, the expectations) and that some girls want to just have a kid and get married because they want to get out their home situation. Also allowing Mom to add her 2 cents with that 'little saying' above.
All three of them have close friends of both sexes and we have made it point to also let them know what our expectations are for them when they are out and about.
With love, and care, we have crossed that bridge but I know it's not an easy way and not the best way for other parents. Just what *we* do. To explain the painful difficulties involved in this approach, when they asked if me and the missus had lived together before marriage, we answered, "Yes, but looking back, we shouldn't have." Again, another teachable moment. We have to decide to take that path and stay the course. The payoff is that they know much more than their peers about the way things really are in life instead of what they get from their friends. That sort of honesty goes a long way. We are their parents, *not* their friends as is the vogue. As they've gotten older, they are now getting to the point where we can move to the proper next stage and become 'friends' (more accurately mentor or trusted advisers). Of course, I *am* looking forward to spoiling some grand-kids but that will happen in it's time.
Kids definitely experiment at a lot younger age than what kids did when I was in school. We had sex ed, but it was very basic and didn't teach about actual sexual intercourse. It basically tought us about our bodies, and we also were not in the same class as the girls.
I can see the arguments on both sides of this. Libs say they're going to have sex anyway so we have to try to get them educated so they don't get pregnant or get an STD. I have a hard time arguing against this because in my experience teaching abstinence doesn't work...not when there is sex all over t.v. shows and in advertising. Abstinence is my preferred method of addressing it, but how do you get them to do it?
No matter how we address this, we cannot let the schools hand out pills and send girls to the doctor to get an abortion without the parent's permission or knowledge.
A quick (funny) story. I was a drunk in high school. Not an alcoholic but a heavy heavy partier. I showed up to school drunk one day and my Spanish teacher told me (and my friend) to go to the auditorium because we were supposed to be there already. We did not notice that no girls were in the Spanish class but the boys still were. We walked into the auditorium and it was full of girls watching a sexually oriented class about the woman's body. The speaker looked at us and said "can I help you?". We were so embarrassed and hauled a$$ out of there.
Corrie Ten Boom related a story in her novel, "The Hiding Place" about the time she asked her father a rather adult question for a youngster. The father didn't answer but simply asked Corrie to take his luggage and place it onto the luggage compartment of the train. The youngster grabbed the handle and pulled as she might could barely lift it. She complained to her father, "I can't, it's too heavy"! Whereupon, her father answered her question by saying "Some things are just too heavy for little ones to carry. So I will carry the knowledge until you older and ready to hear it" as he easily loaded the bag.
I am retelling this from memory, so please pardon my paraphrasing this passage.
The problem with this whole issue is that in many cases our children are simply too young to be learning about sex and sexual abstinence before they are ready to handle such heavy topics. If a child does not know of such things, even what is taught in religious abstinence classes, there will be less inclination to experiment. I know, kids mature at all different rates, some blossom as early as fourth grade while others are still behind their peers in developing their post-puberty sexual characteristics well into college. This might explain the catholic school girls who had to obtain transfers.
When I was attending seventh grade 'health' class in the early 70's, we didn't share the same room, but we know that the girl's class was covering the same gender specific material. In the following class, earth science, there was much snickering (and teasing) among the boys and quite a bit of blushing from the girls from the boy's comments. Every single sentence that came out of Mr. Smith's mouth carried a sexual undertone - an undertone that did *not* exist except in the minds of his students. The science lessons that month were on paleo-geology so I know that there no 'connecting thread' but you can well imagine the discussion on various rocks formations... "How hard was that rock?" and the laughter that ensued. I learned a great deal about the *hardness* of *things* when I was still way too young to understand the implications of that knowledge. Others were, I was not.
I know that I attended an 'experimental' school that would be referred to as a magnet school today. Many of the teaching and grading methods were very avant garde even compared to curriculum in use today. I also know that some portions of that experiment in sex ed failed to do what it set out to do, but DID encourage kids in our class to perform certain experiments after school. But maybe in the long term view of the progressives, it was a success after all. After all, it did help set the stage for the current NYC school debacle over the morning after pill.
So, they are adopting the "opt out" vs. the "opt in"...this seems to be a tactic that has gotten legs over the past few years. The government assumes control and agreement if you don't specifically "opt out" of something...as if the procedure is so essential and popular, that only a few odd people here and there would really need to use the opt out waiver. Up is down, wrong is right, bad is good, and dark is light. I'm struck by the velocity of the downward spiral in our culture.
Yes there appears to be some notion of implied consent. IN other words - by sending your daughter to school today you gave us your permission to feed her abortion pills.
Where are the class action lawyers?
Breaking over at Legal Insurrection....MS ELIZABETH WARREN IN MA has no Law License to practice in MASS!!! This is a big....Legal Insurrection has the entire breakdown for Ms. Warren and her representations!!!
I know side note...but wanted to pass along....this is going to be a problem....She misrepresented herself....She was only at one time or another licensed in Texas and New Jersey yet represented cases in Mass???
This is good stuff!!!
Oh and over at FOX and Drudge CBS edited parts of Obama's Interview where he admits MISTAKES (LIES) from his Campaign Ads....Did not appear last night on Network but it is now posted by CBS!!!
I know off topic but wanted to share both above!
You must take into consideration that Ms. Warren is Native American, therefore where ever ms squatting bull sits is Native American soil and not subject to U.S. or State law. Or at least that's the way they would see it. (Pass the pepto please)
Obama=Warren! They both appear to be measured and calm and rational with their socialist ideas to take the shock factor away from their Marxist-Leninist ideologies. These people are snakes and to them not having a law license or not being a natural born citizen is not necessary to be President because the ends justify the means. Typical Liberals!
On the subject of abortion, there is a terrific, just released DVD called October Baby. If you are not touched by this movie you have no heart.
Yes! Very good film. I've already watched it 4 or 5 times now. haha My wife just said she thinks I've watched it more than that : P Anyway, I agree, it's a good flick for sure. The Erwin Bros. did good : )
Like I've always said, if there's a matter of moral consequence liberals will ALWAYS, without fail, take the position opposite God. Hence the title: godless liberals.
Speaking of 'moral's conservative states have the highest pregnancy rates. I guess nver mind the wars that Republicans started killing innocent people and costing millions. I am liberal too but draw the line when it comes to private matters. DoOn't call the kettle black.
I agree, stage9! If I had children in either the Chicago or New York or really any liberal inner city school I would be looking for other regions of the country or city. I mean have they really done any studies showing what giving birth control to 14 years will do to their development. And why is it only target girls and not boys. Girls don't get pregnant by themselves. You know this sounds like an idea that came from intelligentsia who really don’t think about the moral or health implications of this stupid idea. As Thomas Sowell points out about the intelligentsia, it will fail and they will be long gone and they (the intelligentsia) will not be held accountable for this obvious plan that leads to the breakdown on society.
Nothing beats a zipper that locks in the up position. And that takes a person with willpower and moral fortitude grounded in a relationship with the Biblical Christ.
Abstinence Education
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/social-issues/abstinence-education.aspx
It is not just inner-city schools. They are suburbian, small town schools as well. As long as you have to follow state guidelines and whatever the Dept. of Ed state, they are all in serious trouble.
The biggest misnomer about public education is that it is local. It is not. I have had friends on school boards having to vote on what the state passed. He said he had no idea why they voted for even if they voted no, it is the law. So much for local control of the school system.
Oh for cryin' out loud. If I were a Catholic in NYC is part of my tax money is going for birth control and morning after pills? The War on Catholicism continues.
Interestingly in this report the report says 50% of high school students are sexually active in NYC. Hmmm. I thought a 100% were doing "it," the way the MSM reports on teen sex. So 50% are abstaining from sex? How can that be?
The Right Scoop makes a great point. Liberals never try to stop a problem, only trying to address the aftermath of a problem. Never prevent, just mop up.
Liberal "educators" create the problem first, then step in with a solution designed to both replace paternal authority and remove any sense of moral or personal responsibility from the children's psyche.
It is how marxism works. Same old game - new faces.
""Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a mans soul and faith
And I was round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game
I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a generals rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
I shouted out,
Who killed the Kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me
Let me please introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reached Bombay
Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game
Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
Cause I'm in need of some restraint
So if you meet me
Have some courtesy. Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste
Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game
Tell me baby, what's my name
I tell you one time, you're to blame ""
Well, if they were to address the root problem, then they would be forced to address self responsibility which liberal voters believe is the REAL root problem.
...and there are millions of other "expenditures" WE PAY FOR and do not know about...
Liberalism is a mental disease.
Whoopi said she used a wire hanger........................
You know, I have always wondered just how that whole coat hanger thing was supposed to work. It just doesn't seem plausible to be able to use for such a thing. I'm not saying it _hasn't_ been used for this evil, but I just don't get how it is supposed to actually work.
I think they try to kill the baby and then it is stillborn. Question is, do we allow something to be legal...abortion...just because some women take it into their own hands? Do we allow people to have their neighbors killed just because they will do it anyway?
One thing I do know....which isn't much, lol....is that the baby is not part of the mother's body. I hate hearing that argument because it's a lie. The mother walks away unscathed (other than mental impacts).
That's wierd. I tried it again on the comment in question and it's doing the same thing. It adds one to it, but when I refresh it goes back to just one.
However, I just tried it on your comment and it worked just fine. It did remove. Maybe my computer isn't refreshing the page properly, I don't know. No biggie.
guest, I know that you are a pro-choicer, so please share your thoughts on how 'this' is somehow better?
A portion of an email I received from a pro-life group:
"... the Illinois health department raided nine abortion mills. According to reports, several abortion centers in Illinois had gone without inspection for as many as 15 years. The Illinois investigators said, they were so shocked by the conditions uncovered at two of them that they issued emergency license suspensions for both.
One of the suspended mills in Lincolnwood was cited for lack of a supervising registered nurse, failure to perform CPR on a patient who later died, and keeping TV dinners in a biohazard refrigerator next to aborted babies.
The mill in Lincolnwood received a $36,000 fine for the violations, but chose to close permanently rather than pay up. The abortion center in Rockford also closed after being cited for numerous violations, including failure to keep a registered nurse on staff, unsanitary operating rooms, and stained equipment. While the Rockford mill managed to negotiate a much smaller fine of $9,750, it still had to close due to the outcry from pro-lifers and others in the local community.
In fact, the abortion mill in Rockford has long been a focus of NPLA and other pro-life activists, who report that they have been verbally and physically abused by abortion mill staff while peacefully demonstrating out front."
One cannot make this up, yet the lies still are being spewed by, I would guess, the same people who insist on giving our children the morning after pill! Sources for those who will ask for 'facts', well here they are...
http://www.nwherald.com/mobile/article.xml/articles/2012/03/15/77149752/index.xml
http://abortiondocs.org/clinic/surgical/266/
Please, please say that "these are lies, all lies" while a simple Google search for the phrases 'Lincolnwood was cited for lack of a supervising registered nurse" and "The abortion center in Rockford also closed" shows 83,700 returns for the first place mentioned above and over 418,000 for the second. Not all were relevant but the first three or four *dozen* were. "OK, nothing to see here, move along..."
Lol, but I'm not a closed minded person. I will listen but not necessarily agree.
The intention of a coathanger abortion is to have a "do-it-yourself" abortion without the expertise of a doctor. It's dangerous and can kill the mother, too. What more is there to understand?
I don't condone it just because I'm against abortions. Keep in mind that is the mother making the choice, not me. If I could tell them not to do it and succeed....I would.
You were opposing abortion, yet expressed a partial or complete ignorance about what a coathanger abortion was, then made it the defacto (and imagined) emblem for legal abortion. No one would believe you'd like my posts, don't worry.
Crap, I accidentally liked your comment, so others that see my name next to "like"...ignore it.
Yet you didn't explain what elements you are talking about....even with your reference to nukes and half life (which, by the way, I know about).
Why don't you tell me what elements you are talking about?
The prevention thing has no bearing on why I think abortion should be legal. But I do like to point it out when someone is arguing a case they know nothing about in terms of all the elements (arguing about nukes, for instance, if you don't know what half-life is. I'll put it in war terms for you)
I never said that self mutilation out of desperation was pretty and I never condoned it, so don't tell me I have "violent opinions" about something I know nothing about.
Preventing women from acting on their own doesn't justify legalizing abortion. There was a woman that was so desperate to have a child she cut the baby out of the mother's womb while the mother was still alive. Does that mean you legalize stealing babies....so they get what they want without having to resort to this? No. The baby can be put up for adoption. They don't have to keep the child. I don't think there should be laws to protect people from themselves. The laws should be there to protect those against others wishing to do them harm...such as doctors putting a drill into a baby's skull (are you telling me that's not violent?). That baby has no voice and is not part of the mother's body...especially well beyond the very near timeframe of conception.
Men with violent opinions about medical issues they know nothing about, by their own admission -- what a problem for our country that is. You can google the coat hanger abortion. It might make you rethink denying safe legal abortions to women so desperate that they'd risk mutilating themselves with the coat hanger.
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