Obama’s Civilian National Security Force? DHS retrofits 2,700 military-like vehicles for service on US streets

This article below is back from September of 2012 and was just picked up by GWP yesterday. That said it’s still very relevant, especially with recent reports of massive ammo purchases by our government:

MODERN SURVIVAL BLOGThe Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

Although I’ve seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.

The new DHS sanctioned ‘Street Sweeper’ (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).

Why would DHS need such over-the-top vehicles on U.S. streets to withstand IEDs and mine blasts?


First we hear about the vast amount of ammo being purchased in the Obama administration and now we hear about this. It seems Mark Levin may be right, that the government is preparing for societal collapse after the financial system collapses.

Or could it also be this?

Really, that’s what it sounds like, that Obama is building his Civilian National Security Force. But why? We already have the National Guard to back up local law enforcement.

This is the kind of stuff that gets the conspiracy theorists working in overdrive. And honestly, I can’t say as I blame them.

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  • Sandra123456

    This has to be stopped. The Feds want our firearms. The Feds are buying up ammunition and now this. It’s drip, drip, drip. The water temp in the pot is rising. Are we going to be boiled or are we going to turn the stove off?

    • bbitter

      civilian security force… can anyone here say ‘brown-shirts’?

      How will they do gun confiscation? You just saw your answer. I’d be very surprised to find any of these armed soldiers taking any oath to defend the constitution, but wouldn’t be surprised to find they swear fealty to Obama

    • Marridge

      Break the law en masse, that’s what we are going to do.

    • white531

      The American Populace will accept anything that is offered to them, so long as it is offered a little bit at a time.

      • lanahi

        You must live in a blue state or something. Come to Idaho, or Oklahoma, or Texas, or… and see how accepting the people are.

        • white531

          I live in Southern Arizona, lanahi. There are just as many Idiots here, as anywhere else in the country, probably more.

        • RC

          Blue state I live in ,the sheeple ARE waking up after ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLthese yrs. a little to late I feel for SURE!>like Gods Word alot will wake up just a bit to late

  • StrangernFiction

    This is why Americans are arming themselves.

    It IS happening here.

    “Iti is important that president elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one.” — Valerie Jarrett



    • Stehekin912

      They have told us who they are. We are shouting from every rooftop but no one hears us. We are Cassandra.

    • lanahi

      What’s this about an Arkansas town being under martial law?

  • Here’s a picture of the “Street Sweeper” found on GatewayPundit website:


    Yeah, NObama’s not a Dictator… Just a D**K!

    Worrisome thing is… The Regime won’t even use water cannons or teargas on leftist protestors (Anarchists and various other guttersnipes) but are preparing armored cars and buying all the bullets they could ever need to use against us the law abiding people for daring to demand our Constitutional Rights!

  • StrangernFiction

    But look on the bright side folks, America will be ruled by a nice guy.

    • Sandra123456

      …yeah a regular guy just like Hugo Chavez

      • StrangernFiction

        You have to separate the person from the politics Sandra. /s

    • demographicallychallenged

      I understand he has a Nobel Peace Prize, so he must be kind.

    • E. Lee Zimmerman

      … who’s just in over his head.

    • Don

      “America will be ruled by a nice guy.”

      Only if you agree with everything he says and recognize him as your god. I do appreciate your sarcasm though, StrangernFiction.

      • steprock

        Yeah, “nice” doesn’t enter into it if you cross this administration. Vindictive bunch, even against their own pet journalists if they step out of line.

  • Amjean

    Perhaps Obama fears riots when he refuses to leave office and insists on
    “serving” (I use that term very loosely) for a third term.

    • joyfulgiver

      Amjean, now that’s a frightening thought! three terms? indefinite? dictatorship? YIKES!

      • Amjean

        I know it IS frightening. However, it could be true? Do I sound like a
        whack job yet? LOL!

        I imagine Obama and his thug regime have been plotting for a long time on
        how to make that work out.

  • mikeinidaho

    Bring it, Barry! I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees! We the People will be prepared to restore the Republic with the help of the National Guard and the US military against any DHS buttheads they want to send against us. American Revolution II.

    • I’m with you Mike! I can’t see the US Military EVER turning their guns upon their own citizens at the behest of a dictatorial regime! Those “street sweepers” will never stand up against an Abrams battle tank*! 🙂


      • notsofastthere

        Didn’t the Egyptian military stick up for the Egyptian people, before they decided not to stick up for the Egyptian people? Didn’t Morsi replace the military leader, and didn’t some of our respected military leaders just step down?
        Chaos is coming and confusion will be the order of the day.

        • joyfulgiver

          “didn’t some of our respected military leaders just step down?” Yes, and their reasoning was because they REFUSED to turn their guns on their own citizens. It concerns me that they are being asked the question.

          Always Faithful!

          • notsofastthere

            Some of our ‘brass’ stepped down because of alleged blackmail (sexual impropriety)
            Some were removed allegedly for wanting to help our guys in Benghazi
            Some stepped down allegedly because they wouldn’t sign the kill civilian statement.
            In all cases, Obama got rid of more than just one our respected military leaders.
            We got Chuck Hagel and if BO puts Leftist guys in like Wesley Clark – we’re sunk.

          • lanahi

            The leaders are not the ones actually firing the guns and driving the tanks.

      • OneThinDime

        I’m afraid I can see some of the military turning against US citizens…..

        Especially in light of this http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/165849#.UTS1XaUpCGs

        • notsofastthere

          I never want to believe this either, but SWAT teams, Police, Nat’l Guards do as they are told. They don’t question orders.
          When they’re told ‘bad guys are in that building’ they don’t ask for proof from their commanders. I know a guy on a Swat Team and he said it’s not up to the team to determine who’s good or bad, yet he is a most patriotic guy. Even he can be deluded if false information is all he is given.

          • lanahi

            This only works for a few isolated incidents, like Ruby Ridge and Waco. It would not work time after time after time again. People rising up all over the nation is something else again, and the people in the military are not stupid. It would be obvious that this is a civil war and not merely taking out of isolated “bad guys”. They would then have to rethink “following orders”.

            It is not helpful to Obama that he has turned off most of the soldiers in the military. He can control the generals but not the ones firing the actual guns.

            The communist revolution in Russia started with returning soldiers from WWI. Maybe Obama plans to keep all our soldiers overseas where they can’t get involved at home?

        • lanahi

          I can see soldiers firing on each other.

          Why do you think most of the military were not able to get their ballots counted in the last few elections? They were overwhelmingly anti-Obama votes.

          • OneThinDime

            Agreed! And I posed the question a week or so back that I wonder if those anti-Obama veterans are now being told they cannot own a gun.

      • lanahi

        All that shiny new military equipment can be captured. That’s how guerrilla armies arm themselves.

  • Joe

    Why are the Republicans FUNDING this ?

    • colliemum

      Very good question!

      Go, everybody, and harass you congress critters!

    • Sober_Thinking

      Absolutely spot on… why isn’t there a congressional inquiry into this?

      • OneThinDime

        Their inquiries lead to nothing. Issa agreed to back off inquiries into the Obama administration. Have you heard any more on Fast and Furious? Nope, Issa pulled the civil contempt. Have you heard any more on Benghazi? The Admin turned over fully redacted docs. Contempt? Nope

        • Sober_Thinking

          So as usual, the Republicans are shooting blanks. Lovely.

          Once again, I’m leaning 3rd party because most of the Republicans are pissing me off royally.

          • OneThinDime

            I fear we’ve had the last election, that’s why Obama went on 60 Minutes with Hillary. She provided him cover and he rewarded her knowing she will never be a potus candidate.

    • soraja

      Are you still taking the good cop bad cop soap ??

      • Joe


        • soraja

          you have a question, perhaps i can give you an answer.

    • notsofastthere

      Repubs allow funding to proceed because enough of us don’t know what’s going on and or we have no coordinated counter action like the Leftist have in place.

    • StrangernFiction

      Because. they. are. statists.

    • aposematic

      I guess for the same reason the Republican House (2011 and 2012) funded Obuma’s reelection with $1.7Trillion in continuing resolution stimulus monies and another $2.4Trillion in debt ceiling increases–they just pretend to not be in on it!

    • sqdog99

      I would guess that even Repubs know when this whole house of cards comes crashing down the people will want their heads on a platter as well……they will need DHS protection in a big way, better make sure they’re funded we’ll enough to provide it.

    • pdxlady

      Because the government is not our friend…either side. They are on the same side, the elites, whereas, we are on the other side, non-elites.

      Both the D’s and R’s are at war w/ us; We The People.

      We can continually ask why no one is doing anything about these things, but in reality they really don’t care about us. They are not going to do it, I guess we are going to have to do it ourselves.

    • mark1955

      Because the repubs are as left wing as the dems and are fully onboard the NWO Rockefeller/Rotschild One World Government train and all protestation’s by the repbs to the contrary is pure “Theatre”. The repubs could have stopped all of Obama’s agenda at the very least in committee,including Obamacare and yet, alway’s find a repub to step forward and bail Obama out at the last minute. At the very least, Boehner could have de-funded Obamacare and instead, chose to submit every Bill with the continued funding of it. Boehner even made it more cumbersome and expensive, by personally adding veterinary care to it. Someone please tell Mark Levin: “We need a new 3rd Party and we need it now”!

      • Go2Blazes

        To Mark1955:

        “Veterinary care”?? Is that Veteran care or Vet (animal doctor) care?

  • Um, why do we need MRAPs on our city streets? These are the same vehicles used in Afghanistan to fight the Taliban. Are we now saying that American citizens are just as dangerous as the Taliban? Also, you would think that Homeland Security could pick up a lot of Army surplus armored vehicles from the Iraq and Afghan wars. Wouldn’t it be cheaper just to just buy those rather than these new ones? But I digress. I guess Homeland Security is expecting something really, really, bad to happen. So unless we’re about to be invaded by Canada, I think Mark Levin is right, they ARE preparing for a major economic collapse in this country. People will tolerate a lot of things, but they will not tolerate going hungry. If people are too poor to afford food, then our own government will certainly need these vehicles. Who ever thought it would ever come to this?

    • Sober_Thinking

      This could be Syria 2.0 if we don’t stop him.

    • Betsey_Ross

      I am hoping that they won’t tolerate the new gun laws that this regime seems to be handing out. But you may be right, the idiots in the city aren’t nearly as upset as we are out here in the country. Food for them would be the tipping point, guns for us is the tipping point. Someone, somehwere has to stand up soon and say enough is enough. It won’t happen in DC because they are so isolated they don’t see the seriousness of the situtation. They truly don’t understand why we are so upset. Where? When? It has to happen.

    • sqdog99

      I would think, if provoked, the American people are much more dangerous than the Taliban.

      • notsofastthere

        After 4 years and we haven’t been provoked yet…….????
        I guess the citizens said that about Hitler, Stalin, Popa Doc, and all the other dictators.

    • lanahi

      You could just trade your guns for food to feed your families. See how easy that is?

  • RocklinConservative

    They don’t even know what they are clapping about.

    • Bit like this guy:

      (non offensive – funny.)

      • Sea Lion is way cuter!

    • colliemum

      Of course not – they’re LIVs, and are happy to be on the teevee!

    • Sober_Thinking

      As a veteran, I’m ashamed of any of those mooks who support this monster. It’s wrong – HE’S WRONG and they ought to know better.

      • americalsgt

        They do know better, but it’s what they want. We, you,me and every person that isn’t in with their agenda 100% is the enemy. They would have no problem with us out of the way. Obama is trying to make this transition to ultimate power as peacefully as possible, but we all have to keep in mind his promise at his speech of 7/2/08 when he said he wanted a civilian army just as strong and well funded as our regular army to carry out his agenda. Don’t think for a second that “that” army indoctrinated by the Obamnites wouldn’t take any of us in a heartbeat. They want us dead, dead, dead.

        • Sober_Thinking

          Scary… but you may be right.

          The fact that any of us could be considered or treated as a domestic terrorist comes to mind. We’re either with ’em or against them it seems. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord… and I’m against this and Obama 100%.

  • colliemum

    This is really scary.

    I’d also like to say that these vehicles are far better equipped than those our soldiers were and are using in Afghanistan – don’t know if your Armed Forces use vehicles similar to these.

    Is there any explanation why these vehicles need to be able to resist IEDs? What are they, what is the POS planning?

    • notsofastthere

      He is planning to be more prepared than the citizens.

  • soraja

    What about the 2.4 % spending reduction ???
    start here this program is complete useless !

    Or ????

    • notsofastthere

      Very unfortunate for Americans, Obama has an agenda and isn’t the least interested in sound advice.
      He couldn’t be more obvious and all of his actions prove that.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Too scary to think about.

    If it was anyone other than Obama, I would be skeptical. But since it is Obama… and he and Holder let the NBP slip away after lawless conduct at voting centers… I just don’t trust him and expect him to do the WRONG thing. Especially to quell a country that won’t like where he’s going… once everyone waks the hell up.

    This sort of reminds me of the SS in Nazi Germany…

  • WordsFailMe

    SOmeday the white adminstration who succeeds the moronic gneration will need these vehical to deliver meals to senior in CHicago whaile, once again, cleaning up after the degenerates. If you are black, like Rodman or Obama, how many years will you get a pass to be stump stupid? Is there an end to this guilt crap?

    These people and the black attitude are destroying America. Obama love Chavez, who thinks Obama is an imbcilio, and the stump stupid, moron, genetic defective idiot Rodman thinks KIM JUNG Hung like a mouse is a god guy and should not be judged by the decades of murder and repression from the genetically defective un family. “He love round ball and I love round ball, what else on de earth is dere?”

    It’s not racism any more. It’s just the plain truth. Listen to these morons! Watch the vidoes! Read the news from Chicago and Atlanta.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    The dictator in OUR White House is planning something ominous. Why else would the Feds be buying some much ammo and armored vehicles??????

  • demographicallychallenged

    We are just going through labor pains, do not worry soon we will have “Birth of a Nation”, with Spanish subtitles.

    • soraja

      You got that right !

  • Islam_Sucks

    Tactically… not too impressive

    One stolen Dolese truck

    problem solved

    • sqdog99

      Funny I thought the same thing……plenty of big trucks sitting around with nothing to do in the Obama economy.

  • Mike Cadwell

    Its funny you can tell this stuff to libs ,bullets, guns and now this and they just look at you with a blank stare . I guess they won’t get it till they are being loaded onto box cars.

  • Philo Beddoe

    And what do the politicians have to say about this???

    • colliemum

      They say “Look – there’s a squirrel!”

      • sqdog99

        I thought it was “look a baby wolf”….. :^)

        • colliemum

          No – that would frighten them, because the Wolf mum would be very close by …:

          • LOL! That was great! 🙂 GRRRRrrrr!!!

            • colliemum

              Yep – that’s why I bookmarked it, LOL!

  • Landscaper

    I fear this man child like I fear a warm sunny day. When a foe is digging a hole, don’t take away their shovel.

  • aposematic

    The Feds are preparing for the inevitable collapse of the economy. Are you?

    • lanahi

      Stock up not just on guns and bullets but on food and water. It would be sad to have to trade your guns for food to feed your family.

  • Tiffini

    I agree with RS, when you hear things like this and listen to Obama’s own words, those tin-foil hat guys (people) start making sense and start sounding smart than all our current reps…

  • More to the point:

    “EXECUTE ORDER SIXTY-SIX.” -Barack Hussein Obama

  • jgilman1

    Whats next only waterboarding US citizens? It took years to get proper armor for our troops to help survive IEDs, and all DHS has to do is place an order.

  • Nukeman60

    When Obama said he wanted to ‘fundamentally transform’ America, too many thought he meant to restore us to a great nation. He truly meant that he wanted to change us into a different nation.

    I try to keep my conspiracy theories under check, but lately, with the massive ammo purchases (of hollow points, no less) while trying to end our 2nd amendment rights, with authorizing drones to be able to attack American civilians on our own soil, and now this vehicle aimed at being used against us, how can we think anything else?

    If he walks like a dictator, and talks like a dictator, maybe, just maybe he is a dictator. At least, with the ineptitude of Obama’s civilian army, these vehicles will come in handy when we take them away from the idiots.

    Just remember, when the war begins, WE are fighting for our freedom, while they are fighting merely to take over control. We have the decided advantage.

  • Pancake3

    DHS has no need for billlions of bullets and retrofitted tanks except to keep the American people in line when they reach the breaking point with the Bamster. The fact that so few Americans see this coming is truly frightening.

    • OneThinDime

      What does the common man know since the MSM is failing to cover ANY of this?

  • colliemum

    In this context, you might want to watch/read this:


    “Pre-Selling The Coup: Obama Again Says America Would Be A Better Place If He Were Dictator”

    • Nukeman60

      Getting rid of Obama by impeachment is a near-impossible feat. But…if he were to try to become dictator….? I’m just sayin’ 😉

      • OneThinDime

        The House can impeach, we have the Repubs if they would man-up. Now, the Senate won’t remove him but once the House rules, they simply cut off all funding until he is gone.

        • Nukeman60

          Yeah, like they did with Clinton. I got a lot of faith in that.

          • OneThinDime

            But at least they did and it sent a message. Obama is MUCH worse than Clinton ever was and he is totally unleashed. The Dems are beginning to wake up, with gun control, the payroll tax and now the sequester mess. Only the progs will stay with the Bully-in-Chief. If Boehner would get off his arse and get on TV with daily press releases, Dems would wake up quicker. Impeachment process doesn’t leave a whole lot of unanswered questions. And if the Repubs don’t do it, they will lose their base in 2014 and the Dems will win the House and keep the Senate.

            • Nukeman60

              I like your thought process here. I’m just thinking tar and feathers might be more appropriate – and work better (to all the leftists out there, no racism was intended, but if it was taken as such – too [email protected] bad).

              • OneThinDime

                I like your thought process too! Hopefully the feathers come from already deceased birds or the wacko wildlife folks will be all over us 🙂

                • Nukeman60


  • c4pfan

    I sure don’t get why our officials aren’t questioning anything! Hello, where are the GOP elected officials?

  • Military armored vehicles modified for use on American streets + drones being deployed into domestic airspace + DHS purchase of BILLIONS of live rounds + http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr748/text = ?


  • keninil

    Doesn’t he know that gun owners are that civilian security force??? It’s in the Constitution dummy !! That’s why the Germans didn’t go after the Swiss in WWII; it’s what the Japanese were afraid of if they invaded the US.

    Maybe Obama should be subsidizing shooting ranges and gun education. It would be a lot cheaper.

  • Wayne Foote

    Since the money was appropriated, I deduce our fine Republican and Democrat representatives both signed on for enabling this huge step toward tyranny?

    • notsofastthere

      Dept. heads ask for budget increases. Since all the money comes from us and not one dime from a congressman’s pocket…..the dept. heads get their increases.
      Never does congress ask what the money will be used for.

      • OneThinDime

        That’s why there is no budget, the expenditures would be disclosed.

        • notsofastthere

          Congress doesn’t read any expenditures except to make sure their ‘pork’ is in the bill.

          • OneThinDime

            When there is a budget, the actuals need to be reported at the end of the fiscal year. They are also audited by the GAO. Someone in Congress, we have a few good ones (okay maybe a dozen) that would catch this.

            I absolutely agree with the pork in new legislation!

        • lanahi

          Without a budget, Obama can spend in whatever areas he likes without accounting for it.

          • OneThinDime

            Exactly, that’s why I said there is no budget.

  • deTocqueville1

    The Stalinization of America continues apace.

  • edsmanedup

    No joke…be very afraid…

  • notsofastthere

    That statement at the time by Obama about the civilian army stuck in my head the same way LBJ’s “take from the haves and give to the have nots”
    People shrugged it off at the time. Then we just got used to it. Then we accepted full submission to pay for all the freeloader’s of society, and all the illegals.

  • MiketheMarine

    National Guard units answer to state Governors, Scoop, not the feds. That’s why.

    • notsofastthere

      I just don’t remember, but was there a quid pro quo for the states to send National Guards to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan?
      Don’t the states get federal monies whenever they use the National Guards for disaster services?

      • MiketheMarine

        Yes, that’s exactly right but if Obambi decides to invade, I assure you that the national guard units will be aiming out bound AT the federal troops, not working with them.

        • soraja

          Wow that will be the day.

  • steprock

    I don’t blame conspiracy theorists one bit – not with this kind of crap and drones flying over our heads.

    How long were we planning on putting up with this, by the way?

    Me, I don’t worry overmuch. I trust that our men and women in uniform serve for the US Constitution and their own friends and neighbors. I think it’s more likely to have the first military cout de ta in America to overthrow insane politicians than it is that we would have soldiers driving these tanks against their brothers and sisters.

    • soraja

      With all due respect but the most service men are serving just for a living having bread on the table.

      I have a lot less trust.

      • steprock

        With all due respect, my father fought and bled in Vietnam, my aunt and my own brother all served. It was not just to make a living. They all took their oaths seriously.

        There are plenty of easy, better paying, safer jobs.

  • rather than winning over the proper military chain of command, Obama the tyrant would rather gut the military and replace it with an assault force crafted in his own ghastly image.

    If you find Posse Comitatus an inconvenient hurdle to your plans for accumulating power, you might be a dictator.

    • 1776 Freedom Fighter

      David, it looks like you’re new here; welcome!

      I’m a newbie here myself, but I’ve been knocked out by the kindness of this Right Scoop community.

      For those who don’t yet know David, he and I “met” over at the MOTUS site, which remains an awesome place. David is a stock market wizard, and I admire his savvy use of technical analysis when reading charts.

      Nice to have a sober bear to scale back the giddiness seen in today’s market euphoria. Welcome, David!

  • He told everyone exactly what he wanted when he ran in ’08. Now that he has “more flexibility” this is only going to get worse. He won’t do it all at once, though. Look at how he has been able to divide EVERYONE politically in the US right now. It’s all bits & pieces, a little at a time.
    Wait til you see in the news about the “crazy prepper family” that’s holed up in their shelter and then the FBI, ATF and we can’t forget the All Powerful Civilian National Security Force burn the place down with the “crazy preppers” inside. Why where they there in the first place? Cause the “crazy preppers” had illegal firearms and wouldn’t give them up. The government will be the victim.

    • publius1969

      a huge issue is the 2014 elections they are going to rig the elections again, take control of congress, the troule really amps up

  • Biggbear52

    Anyone out there actually think this guy is not re-introducing the Hitler era? Because if you don’t, then you aint thinking or looking for that matter!

  • SavingtheRepublicdotcom

    They are arming up for something and when you have Sarah Palin and Mark Levin both calling this out its no longer just the fringe right being paranoid! Something is up the feds ARE gearing up for the coming austerity riots… just a question of time now.

    Those of you engaged in contacting gun manufacturers to stop selling to anti-Second Amendment states, agencies etc you need to divert your efforts to ammunition makers to stop fulfilling these massive orders by the federal govt. They are deliberately drying up the ammo supply. The ammo makers are the key to this entire gun control battle and these large govt purchases. Please STOP contacting gun mfgs and START contacting ammo makers to side with the people!

    • Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, Judge Napolitano issue their warnings http://offgridsurvival.com/sarahpalinwarns-fedstockpilingbullets/

    • notsofastthere

      You are so correct there. Gun owners think they won and no one will take their guns. Gov’t is drying up the source that makes guns useful against tyranny. Gov’t goes to the source also when forcing their policies on SocSec or Obamacare.
      We aren’t waiting for tyranny, we are experiencing the middle stage of tyranny. Obama ignores laws and congress and no one is taking to the streets.

  • Ray

    The Brownshirts are coming, The Brownshirts are coming! this is NOT a joke.

  • so Obama will have a heavily armed, well financed (with taxes extorted from honest Americans) army trained to disarm civilians http://www.infowars.com/obama-would-call-on-military-to-disarm-americans-during-national-emergency/

    …. and fire upon Americans http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2013/01/29/the-andrea-shea-king-show

    … and also threatens to use union thugs to harass and intimidate http://www.wnd.com/2011/10/359809/

  • Top down my friends. OWS was an attempt at bottom up, now they are doing top down– they will take guns pushing for a bottom up they couldn’t get before from OWS.

  • DebbyX

    WE are the civilian national security force! WE have the right to protect our families and ourselves!

    YOU Barry, will not get our guns, precisely because of the above speech. You are always showing us who you really are. I think that means you flunked out of Saul Alinsky’s class on Socialism 101.

    Or perhaps, we are just smarter now.

    • syvyn11

      We are. But there are still tons of Obama-Sheeple who will do what the false Messiah tells them to do.

      • DebbyX

        We are stronger and smarter than sheeple. And for the most part, they all have their heads in the sand.

        • turnipweed

          And they don’t have guns.

    • stage9

      “rights” and the ability to enforce them are two different things when you’re facing a standing army with sophisticated weaponry.

      • soraja

        Yep whit your wife and kids at your feet,s

      • lanahi

        Guerrilla soldiers in many lands have successfully fought off standing armies. The one real key to their success is the support of civilians…without that, they fail, but with that support they usually succeed against standing armies. This has been shown time and time again.

        How are we doing in Afghanistan?

    • publius1969

      except this scum and his cabal have circumvented our second amendment rights by buying so much ammo…it is very difficult to get ammo

  • Only rebellion can save America http://www.newyorkdailysun.com/only-rebellion-can-save-america/1490

    “The US federal government has strayed so far from the Constitution and the rule of law that it can now be considered rogue and illegitimate.”

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” http://www.humanevents.com/2007/07/04/when-in-the-course-of-human-events/

  • That’s right: America needs to protect ourselves from enemies. Protecting us from terrorists and other enemies is one of the government’s few legitimate roles.

    It’s funny how conservatives are sounding like Daily Kos kiddies now that Obama is in charge. It’s liberals who think that the government (i.e. Bush) is going to wiretap grandma and throw her in prison in Guantanamo Bay. Have conservatives become the pro-terrorist, anti-defense movement? Liberals do seem to be more supportive of drones, too, ever since Obama took office. Just wait until Rubio takes office. I wonder how many conservatives will be scared of his DHS. I wonder how many conservatives will be protesting in the streets when he tries to kill terrorists the same way Obama does.

  • white531

    They have been taking away your Freedom quietly, for the last fifty years. Now, they are doing it in your face.

  • white531

    The evolution from the Freedom that this nation used to take for granted, to what Obama has planned for us, has a definite timeline. We just passed the fifty per cent mark, and everyone is watching television.

  • white531

    I don’t think anyone cares anymore. I think that’s what Obama is counting on.

  • white531

    Because if anyone cared, we wouldn’t be where we are right now.

  • white531

    I’m going to bed.

    • turnipweed

      Cheer up White. A good night’s sleep will make you more optimistic.

  • Guest

    To Mark1955:

    “Veterinary care”?? Is that Veteran care or Vet (animal doctor) care?

  • turnipweed

    Is it true about the 4500 fighting vehicles? Anyone confirm this?

  • Diogenes_wy

    According to the GAO, there are about 50,000 law enforcement personnel distributed through 45 agencies. These are full-time agents, authorized to execute searches, make arrests, and carry firearms. Add in some 7,462 Customs agents the total approaches 60,000. This doesn’t include contract personnel, military CID forces or personnel from agencies with less than 25 officials in law enforcement.
    All of these agencies are armed with military weaponry and SWAT teams. Couple that with the military arming of state, county and local police and then tell me we aren’t living in a police state and that this administration isn’t planning for civil war.

  • Erdnay

    And Obama will appoint a Muslim to be in charge of this whole mess of “brown shirts”.
    Just wait and see.

  • RC

    Dangerous man he is