Paul Ryan to vote ‘YES’ on Boehner’s Plan B millionaires tax increase

Ugh. More Republicans are signing on Boehner’s millionaires tax hike, including our conservative stalwart Paul Ryan:

THE HILL – Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the House Republican budget chief and 2012 vice presidential nominee, will support Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) “Plan B” legislation that would allow taxes to rise on income over $1 million, a spokesman told The Hill on Wednesday.

“Chairman Ryan will continue to work to protect as many Americans as possible from tax hikes,” Ryan aide Conor Sweeney said. “Chairman Ryan believes that Speaker Boehner’s ‘Plan B’ meets that criteria.”

Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee, has kept a low profile on Capitol Hill since the election and had not commented on Boehner’s proposal, which seeks to make current tax rates for income below $1 million permanent.


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  • hramirez18

    This was the VP candidate. Waoo. Another fiasco.

    • 401_Unauthorised

      Close call eh?

      • hramirez18

        He said he was rehabilitated.

        • Betsey_Ross

          Doesn’t look like it. I can’t help but figure that Boehner’s lack of negotiating skills and the the way he treated Conservatives this time is about to bite him in the @ss. Rush has said that it will kill the Republican Party. I might add ‘as we know it’. This can’t be all bad because quietly the Conservatives in VA are making inroads into the party elite. The state party has behaved badly leading up to the convention in August. Now we are seeing it with Boehner. For some reason these idiots cannot see that the Tea Party, Conservatives and some Libertarians are slowly taking over. We thought many of them would be on board with us in Nov., but they stayed home. Romney lost because the Republicans refused to understand that we are a party of principles, but when you fail to stand up for them you will lose. Apparently Paul Ryan wasn’t Conservative enough and we know Romney isn’t. Now we have to endure the possible loss of our nation because of it. The best thing the new Congress can do is get rid of Boehner. Stand up for what is right.

          • warpmine

            …and Canter and …………….

          • FreeManWalking


            How many TRUE Conservatives can you name that have been successful at rising to positions of leadership in the GOP, lets say in the last 40 years?

            God agreed to save Sodom and Gomorrah if 10 righteous people could be found.

            Personally I think the GOP need some fire and brimstone tossed on them.

            I hope I came across as compassionate.

    • chatterbox365

      Romney picked Ryan. And we are know who picked Romney as the nominee.

      We have way too many moles in our party.

  • unseen1

    why you would think Ryan is a conservative stalwart is beyond me. He voted for everyone of bush’s liberal budgets and liberal programs like the auto bailout. Ryan is a smart politician. He saw the winds of change occurring in 2010 and started speaking like a tea partier. He wasn’t and isn’t. He just knows who butters his bread. Now that the DC elite think the tea party is over people like Ryan can “fall in line” nothing to see here.

    • 401_Unauthorised

      “Ryan is a smart politician. He saw the winds of change occurring in 2010 and started speaking like a tea partier.”

      Precisely. The problem with many on our side is that they are so ready to play the part of the gullible ‘love’-seeking whore at a Vegas bar, ready to be hitched at the drop of a hat to the shiniest stud promising her the ride of her life and all the brightest diamonds to boot. Make all the right noises; pull all the right mating moves and she’s anybody’s!

      So sad.

      • warpmine

        Dumb as a box of rocks most Americans are. Short sighted, huge freaking memory gaps just like liberals which is reason numero uno the country is sliding down the street of Bankruptcy Blvd.

    • poljunkie

      More than ever, i’ve realized this is what politics is.

      Sure there are a few…maybe even a handful of leaders that have and share true principles that line up with what we believe and would like—-

      But it seems there arent enough of them to change the pathetic course our Country is taking.

      I hope we can turn the tide over the next four years, but after 4 +4 years of what’s his name I have major concerns, anxiety, angst, disgust…to the point of being sickened.

  • hramirez18

    Another rhino, that comes out. Do not waste any more time. We need a new party

    • Sandra123456

      Just the serious threat of a new party should scare the Rino’s. BUT we have to start somewhere and it might as well be now.

    • 401_Unauthorised

      …Or just back and support conservative independents

      • We desperately need term limits but of course the congress critters would never go for that.

        • capelady

          Newt tried to get term limits when he was Speaker and his own party blocked him!

    • johnos2112

      We need the Tea Party to take over the RNC.

      • hramirez18

        Many runs as Tea Party, won and later became rhinos.

        • johnos2112

          Ryan had a moderate voting record.  We have to bring in people that have courage.  If they fail the litmus test then they get challenged until they are replaced.

        • Orangeone

          Like Marco Rubio. The Tea Party needs to vet MUCH better. Let’s remember, Ted Cruz is the new TX Tea Party member in the US Senate.

        • BMinPA

          Exactly. Either that or they became loud, big mouths saying good sounding words, and some stupid ones too, but got nothing done. West and Walsh come to mind.

          • capelady

            It is pretty hard to get anything done as a Conservative when the GOP establishment opposes you (not to mention the Democrats!). Look at Michelle Bachmann and the few others who asked for an investigation of Muslim infiltration into high levels of government. A perfectly reasonable request for anyone who is concerned about the future of this country but Boehner and McCain and others blasted her. Boehner has bumped conservatives out of their committee positions to set an example and threaten others to get in line. Like it or not, the RINOs have the power… and I don’t see that we can vote them out fast enough to save this nation. I would support a new conservative constitutional party wholeheartedly… and until we have one that is viable with prominent conservative participation – I think it is up to the states to try and save our republic because the federal government is broken and may be beyond redemption.

  • AmericanLass

    Could be he was forced by Speaker Boehner, remember what he did to other Conservatives who didn’t bend to Boehner’s demands.

    • Linky1

      I doubt it. Ryan is just another spineless RINO, like Boehner, like the others and like the all-but-forgotten spineless Mitt Romney.

    • Taurnil Oronar

      In my view “if” he was “forced” by Boehner then it chaffs my hide even more that I voted for this clown.

    • Then that means the man has no principles to begin with. Goodbye Paul. Go join Rubio, Jindal, and Christie at the RINO Bar & Grille.

  • notebene

    Really Paul? You too? Wow…the House is filled with spineless amphibians, not leaders! You just gave the spoiled socialist brats what they wanted and they STILL don’t have a budget! Where the hell is the leadership because nobody’s doing anything but leading us down the road to endless debt!

    • 401_Unauthorised

      I’m surprised you’re surprised.

      • notebene

        Not surprised, just aggravated with the waste of my vote. Sick of the GOP being dimocrat 2.o. Tired of raised taxes, when there is no budget. I’m going to take this that I can chuck my budget, go bankrupt, and Odumbo will just give me more newly minted money! Oh wait…I’m white and straight….therefore, he isn’t my President, so shoot…can’t do that either cause he’s coming for my gun…oh goodness gracious…?

  • Is anybody shocked? I’ve always thought he was one of the most overrated people in the house.

  • 911Infidel

    2014 is comming. We’ll remember who was naughty and nice.

  • hramirez18

    It’s amazing how they sell themselves for a chair

  • Sober_Thinking

    Who are these people?

  • Doesn’t surprise me really.

    • 401_Unauthorised

      You’re sharper than most. You get a star. Oh look. You already have one. 😉

  • What do you expect, conservatism in the minority right now. Liberals have the Independents on their side. The only way to prove they are wrong is let them fall on their faces with their policies. Republicans can’t survive to suffer the blame for the fiscal cliff being pinned on them in 2014. Some of them can survive conservatives being pissed at them.

    • 401_Unauthorised

      Independents consist of hardline conservatives who refuse to vote for RINOs too (I’d even wager that they make up more of that group than any other type of independent’) not just so-called ‘moderates’ which I surmise are who you really mean when you say ‘independents’.

      If so, be accurate and say ‘moderates’ not ‘independents’.

      • Independents that will vote for a Democrat or a Republican, those Independents reelected Obama. And I don’t believe hardline conservatives independents who refuse to vote for RINOs are dominant, some did not for Romney but so much more of them did, many of which said they wouldn’t but still did. Nonetheless hardline conservative independents don’t vote for Democrats. Independents or moderates whatever you like to call it reelected Obama and they are on that side.

        • 401_Unauthorised

          “…some did not for Romney but so much more of them did …”

          Says the 3 million less votes than McCain got? Lol.

          You’re in Colorado right now aren’t you?

          • What difference does it make? Even if 3 million less votes were all ‘hardline conservative independents’ and gave then all to Romney he would have still lost. If they were the most dominant force of independents wouldn’t they be able to sway the election anyway they want? Ironically Romney final vote percentage came out to be 47% of the popular vote, that is higher than McCain’s 46%, And Obama got a 1 percentage point less than he got in 2008 of 52%. So in terms of percentage of the vote Romney actually did better than McCain. Romney was 4 points behind Obama, McCain was 6 points behind. But none of that really matters because Obama is president and we are f’d.

            • 401_Unauthorised

              With such shoddy and dishonest analysis, maybe you are “f’d”. But please speak for yourself Steve. I hate projection.

              Besides, I remember I’ve been here before with you. Sounds to me like you’d rather wallow in this self-pity ‘conservatism is dead’ meme than admit that what Americans were offered in the person of Romney and Ryan was nowhere near conservatism and that it was thus rightly rejected by America.

              Listen, I don’t argue with deniers. So, in anticipation of further nonsensical arguments and fiddling about with percentages (clearly googled hurriedly in pitiful attempts at a ‘comeback’) on your part, my reply to all future responses from yourself is: ‘OK Steven’.

              Good day.

              • Okay well, you’re the one commenting and distracting from my main point anyway, which was conservatism is outnumbered, not dead.

            • PatrickHenrysBody

              The numbers don’t add up. I realize the election is over and we must bear another four years of Zero. However, if this last election was honest, I’ll eat my straw hat. Zero had his propagandist media arm, community agitators (oops, “organizers”), Soros money, Hollywood money, the United Nations, and many other distasteful people and organizations looking out for him. Those things and the Obama campaign offering government goodies and banking on the mentality of low or no information voters. I’ll admit that Romney decided to play nice and not vigorously and tenaciously respond to Zero’s character assassinations, misrepresentations, and outright lies. That’s only one of the things that lost the election for Romney.

              • You can blame voter fraud, the media, Romney not calling Obama a socialist/marxist or not being mean enough, his 47% gaffe but I really feel that’s grasping at straws.

                The main issue was economy, the majority american’s for whatever reasons felt it wasn’t Obama’s fault, and it was still Bush’s. That really hurt in trusting in republicans to do the right thing, when previously they did not just 4 years ago. Obamacare, really got muzzled out because of the supreme court ruling in it’s favor. Medicare democrats successfully applied Mediscare and made voters worry of Romney/Ryan plan. And perhaps at the very end Hurricane Sandy helped the president seal the deal for undecided voters. I think that’s what contributed to a greater effect for Obama winning his reelection than the other stuff.

                • PatrickHenrysBody

                  More and more people also believing that a bigger government that will take care of everything for you had something to do with Obama being re-elected. It’s hard to resist free stuff. Just look at the Obama phone lady. Just replay the interview with the lady at an Obama rally four years ago who mistakenly believed that Zero would pay her mortgage and gas bills – -. Zero wants more people to suck the government teat than ever before because he believes in an expanding bigger government and he feels a great number of people in the U.S. (apparently 52% of them) want the same thing. He thinks he now has a mandate to make government more expansive and intrusive. Even if Romney had been right about the 47%, at least 5% of those who voted for Zero voted for him for other reasons besides not seeing the lousy economy as being his responsibility.

          • Wisewoman2

            That is erroneous information you are spreading. Romney did not get 3 million less votes than McCain in fact he got more votes than McCain did. The 3 million number was not a complete vote tally. That fact has been documented via a vote count link on this site. You must have missed it.

    • BMinPA

      You hope that failed policies could be traced back to Democrats and in turn they’ll be thrown out. May I remind you of social security, medicare, public housing, food stamps. They have been around for 50 years plus and they get rewarded for them time and again.

      • Yeah I don’t believe Obama’s raising taxes on the 2% is going to roar the economy back to life. Republicans have been saying raising taxes on anyone in this economy won’t work for economic growth right? Either that is true or not.

        • BMinPA

          Remember, Obama has redefined normal. Economy can “roar back” to 7% unemployment and the conclusion will be that tax raises did it. He is trying to kill once and for all that for economic growth you need low taxes. We lose that and we will never get back in.

          • I see your point and if there was some way to keep taxes the same I’d say go for it but I don’t really think we have a choice, and come January, someone’s tax rates are going up, just depends who and how many.

            And I think it could be much worse with Republicans getting the blame for the fiscal cliff, and democrats taking over the House again after 2014.

  • BHliberty

    None of it will matter anyway, it’s DOA in the senate! This Republican party is now one inch closer to joining the Democrat party. That’s it! So I will find a new home, a new home with like-minded, freedom-lovin’, small governing, God-fearing, constitutionalist! Yeah, that is where I’ll go!

      • BHliberty

        Thank you, it’s time!

      • ApplePie101

        How about a few bullet points at the top of that page, highlighting core points of the platform, for those of us who are attention-challenged?

        • I’ve got ADHD myself. I thought I did pretty well just being as organized as I got- but I can see your point 😉 Give me a little while and I’ll see what I can do.

          • ApplePie101

            Thanks! You got me at ‘reduce the size of federal government’. Music to my ears!

            • 🙂 Excellent! Are you on facebook ApplePie?

              • ApplePie101

                No, not yet. I’ll figure it out one of these days!

                • No worries. As soon as we have our website up (we’re working on it!) I’ll get the link to you 🙂
                  Until then, when I get anything new to post, I’ll give you those too. Have you seen the videos yet?

        • Our platform in a nutshell:

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          “The care of human life and happiness, not their destruction is the first and legitimate object of a good government.”
          Thomas Jefferson
          One can not have liberty and the right to pursue happiness if one is not allowed the right to life.

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          “Foreign influence is truly the Grecian horse to a republic. We cannot be too careful to exclude foreign influence.” Alexander Hamilton
          The Constitutional Freedom Party will work to remove the UN from American soil, and to remove the U.S. from the UN.

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          “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is at a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
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          It is clear by the many written words of our Founders on what they intended when they added the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. The right of the people to defend themselves is not only a right, but it is also a duty to defend one’s family from threats whether they come from an armed intruder, a violent criminal, or the government.

          “Taxes should be proportioned to what may be annually spared by the individual.”
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          The Constitutional Freedom Party is committed to abolishing the IRS and instituting a Flat tax that would be fair to everyone.

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  • marketcomp

    Just another sell out! But, this explains why someone who has been in Congress for 14 years and not realy made a difference because he just goes along to get along.

  • Taurnil Oronar

    What a loser and to think I gave him my vote. I am tired of these lame Repulicans and shucking their principles down the drain.

  • johnos2112

    Well that is ashame. Get rid of him too!

  • proudhispanicconservative

    I have said it before, I think we dodged a bullet when we did not elect Romney, because Romney was not going to contribute anything to the conservative movement. I bet you that 99% of the people here blogging in this webpage are not millionaires, but are smart enough to see how wrong this is and how it goes against our principles.”Headline” Former vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan leads the first Congress in over 100 years led by Republicans to raise taxes.

    • marketcomp

      Good point, phc! I don’t see Ryanor Rubio as leadesr for Conservatism.

      • proudhispanicconservative

        They are done in my eyes!!!!! Even though Rubio tried to distance himself yesterday from Boehner

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        Wolves in sheep’s clothing to me. The difference between the “uniform” of the establishment GOPers (RINOS as well) and the Dimwitocrats is the width of the pinstripe. They are both playing in the same league.

  • aquaviva

    Newest Ryan Meme:

    “Hey Girl!
    I’m getting a rise……
    out of your taxes!”

  • Ryan = RINO

  • Listen under Romney your taxes would have gone up! Same rate, less deductions = higher taxes paid. The only people that are going to pay this are W2 people that earn over $1m – so we are talking about $4K per $100K earned over $1M. Is it fair? No Is it going to hurt the economy? No.

    This is the best plan. The house pass this bill and have Obama turn it down and then the optics will be very bad showing Obama body surfing in Hawaii while your taxes go up.

  • 57thunderbird

    Another RINO in cave mode.Imagine my surprise.

  • DocBarry1

    Once again we find another fraud – Ryan is a fraud!!! It didn’t take him long to bail on his apparent throw away principles.

  • tinlizzieowner

    Why not sign on? Barry has already said he will veto it even if a bipartisan Senate passes it.

  • Haywoodjbl

    Does this surprise anyone? He saw what happened to those that crossed Boehner…duh?

    Third Party NOW

    • marketcomp

      He’s always been that way and unfortunately I see the same in Rubio. If the teaparty is a vehicle then he uses the teaparty and if the RINOs is a vehicle then he goes with the RINOs. I will never forget that it was Ryan and Rubio who went out very strongly for Romney and look at what that got us. So I don’t think that these two are not the wisest nor the most conservative leaders or spokesman for conservatism.

    • see the links above to Hramirez and BHliberty Haywoodjbl!

  • BikerHoop

    “Chairman Ryan will continue to work to protect as many Americans as possible from tax hikes,”

    Yeah, until it’s time for him to cave again.

    • Orangeone

      I did hear one thing in Boehner’s speech, other thread. The lower 4 tax rates will be made PERMANENT. I don’t know the timeframe on the upper but PERMANENT is a good start for the bottom 4. The RINOs can slam Reid and Barky that they wanted to continue to ping pong tax rates for the Middle Class instead of giving them closure (oh I almost said ‘a final solution’)

      • BikerHoop

        Well, I guess that could be considered a bright spot, but knowing our congress-critters ‘permanent’ means until they decide to change it again.

        • Orangeone

          True but it’s always been for 1 or 2 years before….

  • misterlogic0013

    Nothing new .. Rino 100% give me journalism, story .. something new ..

  • DebbyX

    This all getting tiring. I feel absolutely spent, in more ways than one. Christmas shopping has drained my energy and my checkbook. Kinda like the way the Feds spend.

    I will gladly pay you tomorrow for a cheeseburger today.

    • 57thunderbird

      Wimpy from Popeye.I remember it well. 🙂

      • Orangeone

        Me too! Don’t let mooochier hear us though, she’ll make cheeseburgers and Popeye illegal.

        • 57thunderbird

          True that.LOL!!!

      • DebbyX

        🙂 I was wondering if anyone would remember that.

        It’s so fitting for this Administration………spend…….spend……..spend.

  • Martin2717

    The GOP is officially dead. New party time.

  • Orangeone

    Ryan is as attached to Boehner as Boehner is to Obama. Paul Ryan sold out Tea Party members and sided with Boehner on committee assignments. This does demonstrate how quickly Ryan would have sold all of us down the river, doesn’t it. Shameful.

  • I expected more from Ryan. If this guy wants to lead or be seen as a leader, then he should start leading. He should have given Boehner ideas on how to fight this, not just cave into it. Maybe Ryan has some other plan going on here, but if he has, I can’t see it.

    • 57thunderbird

      If you look at his past voting record,this is not a big surprise,unfortunately. 🙁

    • Wisewoman2

      Nothing makes sense. The real reason is that Obama sees an opportunity to allow everyone’s taxes to go up while blaming the republicans. That seems to be Obama’s strategy. Whether the republicans are trying counter moves to prevent that from happening I simply don’t see it.

  • lambfound

    I couldn’t be more disappointed in Paul Ryan. Makes more sense now that he was chosen by Romney.

    • Wisewoman2

      Remember according to conservatives Ryan was extremely more conservative than Romney and it was a “great pick”. I always maintained that Romney was conservative and his record not words proved it. Even the so called Romneycare took a somewhat conservative solution to the problem of people who could afford it not buying health insurance. (My husband and I maintained two family health plans throughout our working life. Many called us stupid for doing so.) The states who are closer to the people are the best vehicles for solving most problems. Changes can be made to legislation much quicker without massive pressure in many instances.

  • Let’s go crash Depardieu’s house…

  • Ariadnea

    Another one bites the dust!

    This is how debt and spending gets incredibly and terribly high, by giving one inch at a time.

    So disappointed with Ryan. On second thought, it’s good to know early on how people easily fold in times of pressure. Let’s see who’s next to fold and count them out next election.

    These people can’t even manage how to be creative and original in negotiation. The Republican negotiators willingly volunteer themselves as hostages, what full of spineless craps.

  • FreeManWalking

    Will Ryan’s “YES” vote on raising taxes will make him a shoe in for the GOP Nominee?

    Or will True conservatives revert to an old Iraqi tradition and throw a shoe at him, or just give him the boot?

  • trouble06

    Republicans and conservative independents are suckers. At least when a DemocRat is elected, what you see is what you get. When A Republican is elected he says one thing does something else. I for one am sick of it.

  • PatrickHenrysBody

    I thought he showed backbone when throwing it in Zero’s face during the show conference on the economy a couple of years back. It seems that backbone has been systematically removed by not only the lefty Dimwitocrats in Congress, but the establishment GOP types as well. Well done, Mr. Ryan! Now go join the other jellyfish in the establishment GOP sea.

  • nibblesyble

    Indeed, et tu Ryan?

  • mark1955

    Ryan your A Fraud and were a Fraud all along! Folks we need a Third Party and we need it Now!

  • I lost the respect that I had for him overnight when I found out about the role he probably had purging the compromise’s opponents from the highest committees and the Tea Partiers wanted a plan to balance the budget faster than his 40 year plan which becomes less impressive now that the election’s over.
    He has this to answer for when he runs for President in 4 years. I know Rand Paul will bring it up against him.

    • The role John Boehner said he had, and Jeb Hensarling had too?

      • He was on the Steering Committee that removed them. He needs to answer for that.

  • ApplePie101

    A rino through and through.

  • It is fascinating to watch just how much the election has shaken up Republicans in congress. They don’t know whether they are coming or going.

    Obama is getting what he wants.

  • Shame on you, Mr. Ryan. I cannot agree with your decision to accept the socialist rhetoric as the reasoning behind raising taxes in a recession. It’s antithetical to the platform you ran on as VP. It is counterintuitive to what EVERY thinking person knows– when you raise taxes you slow the economy (and it’s stalling now, as it is) and the revenues to the government DROP. How is it that we, the people, know this – and you don’t, Mr. Ryan?

    • You do understand that this has nothing to do with “socialist rhetoric” or “reasoning” or “platform” and everything to do with keeping taxes as low for as many people as possible…

      It’s not even accepting Obama’s premises, except the fact that bigger tax increases are coming anyway.

  • The right choice in the right direction. Let. It. Burn.

    One thing is clear- House Republicans are working to keep taxes as low for as many people as possible. And they deserve our understanding on this issue, if not our agreement. But they will not succeed. And that’s the point.

    Even though the lot of them should be thrown out for other reasons.

    In any case, Plan B is no litmus test. That is, provided, they treat it as a line in the sand, as they are indicating, rather than yet another stage of negotiation.

  • Guest1776rcp

    Paul Ryan = Establishment Yes man, always was. Why people consider him a conservative is beyond me because I’ve seen his voting record.

  • aZjimbo

    Another GOP rino loser. These guys are a dime a dozen.