Despite Democrats asking Obama not to release an immigration plan, he did it over the weekend. Marco Rubio is said to have already called it ‘dead on arrival’. But Rush doesn’t think he released it because he actually wants to fix immigration, but rather to gum up any plan to fix it so he can beat up Republicans with the issue in the 2014 elections.

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sue-marie
sue-marie

I still think he leaked it to apply pressure on the GOP. Whenever pressure is applied...they start making mistakes. This reform is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back. Not only will it insure Democratic control....but it will wreck havoc on this economy. We have so many problems as it is that this will just hasten our demise. Our economy had until right around the next corner before a collapse but if this becomes reality...we won't make it to the end of the street. Prepare people....we will finally get to see how Grandma and Grandpa (for the younger folks make that great-Grandma) made out during the depression.

Conniption Fitz
Conniption Fitz

Could we (taxpayers) be funding terrorism (aka jihad) in our very own country, by paying benefits to poorly-qualified unemployed immigrants (Islamic operatives)???

Could Al Queda/Hezbollah/Hamas members be living on YOUR money???

Yep.

"Anjem Choudary was secretly filmed mocking non-Muslims for working in 9-5 jobs their whole lives, and told followers that some revered Islamic figures had only ever worked one or two days a year.

“The rest of the year they were busy with jihad [holy war] and things like that,” he said. “People will say, ‘Ah, but you are not working’.

“But the normal situation is for you to take money from the kuffar [non-believers]."

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And it’s not like the US is doing anything about immigrants coming to this country just to live off the American worker.

Recent studies show welfare spending on immigrant-headed households is relatively high. A Center for Immigration Studies report found that 36 percent of these households were using “at least one major welfare program” in 2010 — compared with 23 percent of other households.

Sessions’ office says the number of non-citizens on food stamps has skyrocketed in recent years. And the conservative Heritage Foundation claims low-skill immigrant households take in roughly $20,000 more in taxes. http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=47430

LIBERTYUSA
LIBERTYUSA

... the bottom line is until there is a VOTER PHOTO ID PROGRAM in place in every State of the Union and clearly validated and ensuring the casting of 1 vote for every legal citizen the DEMO NAZIS have the ELECTIONS WRAP UP in the BAG for the for seeable future ."

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

Oh boy, get out my blood pressure medicene! I'm with you LibertyUSA. Don't know why my comment was posted above yours..LibertyUSA??? hmmm should have been under it.

Wigglesworth
Wigglesworth

I don't agree with that assessment. Obama leaked his own plan to make the gang of eight bill seem more reasonable and bipartisan. This will put the pressure on Boehner to pass it in the House even though he won't have the support of 50% of the GOP members. It also creates a sense of inevitability. You can either get Obama's more extreme plan by executive order or vote for the Senate's version.

I would be so happy if Republicans kill amnesty in the House, but I would like for them to pass a GOP version of REAL immigration reform that includes state empowerment, mandatory enforcement provisions and a limited migrant worker visa that would require company sponsorship. They have to be able to fight back against left wing cries of racism.

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

Impeachment bills have been introduced. If he passes illegal alien amnesty by fiat the lawsuits by Americans will be filed the next day.

Plus, Rubio's Gang of 8 amnesty is no different!

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

Impeachment bills have been introduced. If he passes illegal alien amnesty by fiat the lawsuits by Americans will be filed the next day.

Plus, Rubio's Gang of 8 amnesty is no different!

Laurel
Laurel

Republicans repeat after me..."Democrats are not your friend."

Repeat over and over until you get it.

Wolfie
Wolfie

I agree! Democrats are Republicans "friends" in the same way that guy with the panel van with the side spray painted with the "free puppies" message is for innocent children!

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

Obama continually wants to hide behind the green curtain... he continues to be the skeleton in the closet.

He is the biggest dirt bag, politician in the history of this country.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

The modern day "wizard of Oz". We need to pull that curtain away and expose Barry the pot smoker, Barry the cocaine user, Barry the stoner, Barry the Muslim, Barry the community organizer. We need a candidate who can do what should have been done in '08! It's still not too late to talk about Ayers, Wright, his muslim faith, etc. Nothing is off limits when it comes to Sarah or Michelle Bachman! Take the gloves off for Gods sake!

colliemum
colliemum

Good analysis by Rush.

Isn't it frightening that the GOPe just cannot see this? Isn't it scary how they play right into the POS' hands? What is the matter with those people?

Laurel
Laurel

I ask myself this daily. I have been in DC in the trenches many times and I think it is because they lunch together, dine together, do the cocktail circuit, etc. They think these people are my friends and never ever suspect ulterior motives. None of them say their inflammatory rhetoric to anyone's face...that rarely is done and when it it you usually gt an "Eff You So and So!" and it is headline news. All rhetoric is second hand form various sources or the media so it is easily dismissed.

Remember when Orin Hatch sang Ted Kennedy's praises?! Called him friend...well that wasn't for nothing and really is par for the course. Only in Washington DC can sharks hide their fins so well.

I could expand this but I think you get the gist of it.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

Yes....the good ole boys stuff. That's why we need term limits. People like some of us should be going to DC. They stay so long they become buddies. Bulls--t!

colliemum
colliemum

Thanks - yes, I do!

That's why D.C. is such a swamp, that's why it is a game to all of them, totally unrelated to the reality which all the rest of the country has to deal with.

We've got the same set-up here. For example, everybody who worked in Westminster, especially the lobby journalists, knew that the Parliamentarians used their expenses accounts for fraudulent enrichment. Nobody said a word, they might not have got invited to a party!

When it came out, and when one newspaper printed the whole unsavoury story, everybody had egg on their faces, Labour especially.

Now?

Might as well not have happened.

That's why we call the whole shebang and all who 'live' in it - "Westminster Bubble".

Wolfie
Wolfie

You can put this down to lack of Republican leadership. We have RINOS leading! They are worse then useless! God, I wish we could have a New Maggie! ;-) I thought Palin was our New Hope!!! Seriously! But she bowed out... Where was her conviction? :-( NO true leader quits when the battle gets tough! When the going gets tough, the tough get going! Right?

Anyway... We're left with idiots for leadership in the GOP! The talk is of a new party! Unless the GOP wake the heck up and quick! Well... You know the rest...

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

"They are worse then useless!" - Best line of the day!

colliemum
colliemum

I think Sarah Palin was told by the GOPe that she would be on her own, with no support, financial or otherwise, if she ran, even if she got the nomination. You know how they withdrew support from Michele Bachman and how difficult her race was, just for Congress.

Also, Sarah Palin was fully aware that the GOPe would get at any who'd sponsor her, and she knew about the despicable fillum about her, which came out in March last year, about her 2008 campaign.

She is a fighter, and she knows that a fighter can retreat and reload when the tables are fully stacked against her, and that sometimes it is better to wait so that one can fight to win. fighting just for fighting's sake is unwise, and unwise she is definitely not.

Btw - she's giving a speech at CPAC, so she is building for something, that's for sure.

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

So is Boehner, McConnell....had hopes for CPAC but they've invited RINOs.

Wolfie
Wolfie

Third party RISING!!

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

I don't think we've seen the last of Sarah, either. When she withdrew as a Fox News contributor I got suspicious. Many don't like her, but I do. She speaks the truth and knows how to take the gloves off! We need someone who knows how to "throw a punch" if we're ever going to get the white house back. And all of us good folks who want change need to talk to every liberal idiot we know to try to educate them. Maybe Obama will finally even piss his base off and they will wake up. I'm going at it with the "only so much in the sugar bowl and if sugar daddy gives it all away to illegals there won't be as much for you poor folks who are entitled to it!". They start listening when they think someone has their hand in THEIR pocket....although it's been ok now for years for them to have their hand in mine.

colliemum
colliemum

Yes - I know, that's what it was like here under Labour.

And then we only had the choice between that Gordon Brown, and that Dave Cameron. We knew Cameron was good at making speeches in the House, we knew he was not good at doing what he said he'd do.

Well, we're in the merde, only worse - and no heroes anywhere.

Looks like we've gotta be our own heroes.

colliemum
colliemum

Yes - I know, that's what it was like here under Labour.

And then we only had the choice between that Gordon Brown, and that Dave Cameron. We knew Cameron was good at making speeches in the House, we knew he was not good at doing what he said he'd do.

Well, we're in the merde, only worse - and no heroes anywhere.

Looks like we've gotta be our own heroes.

Wolfie
Wolfie

I'm just so tired of holding out for a HERO! I just wish we had one NOW! Sorry if I piled on Sarah... I darn near worship her! It's just with living under NObama... it dull the mind, kills the spirit and deflates almost any hope of a phoenix rise of true American/family values! again...

Wolfie
Wolfie

I'm just so tired of holding out for a HERO! I just wish we had one NOW! Sorry if I piled on Sarah... I darn near worship her! It's just with living under NObama... it dull the mind, kills the spirit and deflates almost any hope of a phoenix rise of true American/family values! again...

pmb88
pmb88

I wonder how many dems are starting to get sick of O. I heard there were a couple of Dems hoping that O would just stay out of this. I know Rush was talking about this a couple of weeks ago that there may be some discontent growing in the Democratic Party.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

Boy we can only hope and pray there are a few dems smart enough to be tired of the Muslim president. We need to start talking to them....every chance we get. Go at it from their own angle....only so many food stamps to go around....can't be giving it away to people who are not citizens. Let's try to educate these baffoons....or at least talk their language. We need to upset his base right now while they may be disgruntled at their messiah. Can't hurt!

PhillyCon
PhillyCon

You will never hear of it. Isn't it odd that there is no criticism ever?

For those who follow politics, it's unheard of to have no intra party strife at all. Even Clinton had his congressional detractors. It's the nature of our government to have friction between the branches. But with Obama, all is happy happy, at least on the outside. I suspect Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi keep a short leash on any free thinkers, err dissenters.

Conservator1
Conservator1

I agree with Rush; particularly on the motivation for Republicans to support an immigration bill to win the mid-term elections by gaining more votes in the Hispanic community. The problem Republicans had with Hispanics in 2012 election was Mitt Romney's new views on illegal immigration.

I'm sure most will recall the vicious assault on Gov. Perry's stance on helping illegal immigrants to obtain a better education in Texas using their monies. Texas has a large Hispanic community and since this was a state program targeting the needs of their constituents, it was pure evil folly by Mitt. Mitt passed Romneycare in Massachusetts which was a state issue and thus, not a problem for me.

But the vitriolic attack of a governor helping Hispanics to get a better education was the direct cause for Mitt to get such little support among this important and growing group of Americans.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

We have to stop thinking we need to win the hispanic votes. They are not going to vote for us....we don't just hand out free stuff. I say deport.....and they can leave those children who were born here.....to be adopted by other real American citizens or to grow up in an orphanage. Sorry, only the child can stay. You are here illegally.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

Maybe then they would stop crossing the border at 8 months pregnant just to get to an American hospital....then give birth to a US citizen! Nice plan....gotta stop it.

Conservator1
Conservator1

Mary, the problem with your view is Hispanics represent the largest growth in America's population.

"In a demographic shift touching every corner of the U.S., the Hispanic population grew faster than expected and accounted for more than half of the nation's growth over the past decade, with the group's increase driven by births and immigration.

The Census Bureau—in its first nationwide demographic tally from the 2010 headcount—said Thursday the U.S. Hispanic population surged 43%, rising to 50.5 million in 2010 from 35.3 million in 2000. Latinos now constitute 16% of the nation's total population of 308.7 million.

The Census Bureau has estimated that the non-Hispanic white population would drop to 50.8% of the total population by 2040—then drop to 46.3% by 2050. This demographic transformation—Latinos now account for about one in four people under age 18—holds the potential to shift the political dynamics across the country..."

Latinos Fuel Growth in Decade - March, 2011

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704604704576220603247344790.html

If you and others believe conservative Republicans don't need to attrack at least 40% of the Hispanic vote, then you ideology will lead to the death of conservatism in America. Lastly you assume I believe/support some form of amensty for illegal immigrants like Sen. Rubio's proposed legislation, you are mistaken. Rubio's plan has a fatal flaw. Legal immigrants must pass an oral test The Naturalization Test on English and Civics (U.S. history and government) and additional requirements - clink link below for more information:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

If illegal immigrants are given a pass on these requirements, then it becomes an amnesty path to citizenship which I can not support.

Conservator1
Conservator1

That's the problem - Hispanic's like a number of other minorities do support the Democratic party's nominee by significant margins. With the rapidly increasing numbers of Hispanic voters, there will be no future for conservative Republicans if this trend continues. More important, I speaking about the LEGAL American Hispanics who already are citizens.

I'm certain Mark Levin would agree with me on that point.

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

You might check out the Mark Levin thread on Hispanics and how they vote. Here's a hint, DEM. I don't support candidates because they pander to race or gender. Ignoring the laws illegal aliens have violated is amnesty. Illegals must be deported and the countries billed for the tax money spent on them for education, medical costs, etc., including their deportation costs.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

You make some very good and interesting points....and surely educated me...however, I don't think the ones here legally..which are a good portion of the statistics you just gave, want illegal immigration either. It's a hard subject. It just isn't fair to those waiting in line at the front door to let others in the back door. I will agree that I may be leaning too harshly the other direction. I like part of Rubio's plan. I also like Rush Limbaughs idea that they cannot vote til they are here legally for 25 years. I also like to give citizenship to those who serve in the military. I would agree on a faster track to citizenship for them. The Civics test....hoorah! I had to take one (and pass it) to go from 8th grade into high school....we should still require that of all students, not just immigrants. Thank you for your enlightenment and good info.

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

Good reason not to move to TX. Illegals can go home and fix their own countries.

Conservator1
Conservator1

Okay, don't move to Texas which is red state that consistently supports conservative candidates. Like Mary Seig's comment above, you seem willing to ignore how important attracting the Hispanic vote is to the future of conservatism in America. Your comment indicates a very narrow view of the political realities in the U.S.

Conservator1
Conservator1

See Mary we do agree. I never refer to myself as an Italian American and when I fill out forms which ask about by ancestry or color, I click the other box and write in American. With regard to demographics of the U.S., I plead guilty. I was a publisher for over 30 years and I majored in science. In science and publishing, demographics always play a key role, especially in biology and physics in which I majored.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

Agreed...we are likely on the same page with 95%, but I don't like to think we should dole to a particular race or gender....we need to all just be Americans. I don't call myself a German-American. I am an American. I get tired of needing to get the black vote, the hispanic vote. How about we go after the American vote. That is the point I am making. It divides us. Thanks for your good comments. It makes this site very interesting and intellectually stimulating as well.

Conservator1
Conservator1

Mary, where have I stated I support illegal immigration or amnesty for them? - I don't which I thought I made clear in my first comment. Our disagreement appears to be on the importance of attracting the Hispanic vote and its importance to the future of conservatism in America.

I will re-post a portion of my reply to OneThinDime:

"...In addition, I have worked with Rush on a number of projects when I was in publishing. Also, I worked with the father of conservatism in America - Bill Buckley. I proudly worked for his campaign when he ran for Mayor of NYC. And I continue to support the Buckley Rule albeit most Republicans like Carl Rove have misinterpreted this rule. Below are 2 articles I recommend you read:"

Republicans Misunderstand the Buckley Rule - WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2013

http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2013/02/republicans-misunderstand-buckley-rule.html

Re: The Buckley Rule - February 13, 2013

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/340585/re-buckley-rule-avik-roy

Lastly as I stated to OneThinDime, I don't mean to disparage you because I'm certain on 95% of political issues, we most likely agree.

Conservator1
Conservator1

I have lived my entire life in New York State and 20 years in NYC. Thus, I know I great deal about living with a big brother nanny state. But I strongly disagree with your reply which is nonsensical to me (I don't mean to disparage you because I'm certain on 95% of political issues, we most likely agree).

In addition, I have worked with Rush on a number of projects when I was in publishing. Also, I worked with the father of conservatism in America - Bill Buckley. I proudly worked for his campaign when he ran for Mayor of NYC. And I continue to support the Buckley Rule albeit most Republicans like Carl Rove have misinterpreted this rule. Below are 2 articles I recommend you read:

Republicans Misunderstand the Buckley Rule - WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2013

http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2013/02/republicans-misunderstand-buckley-rule.html

"...I did not check back every five minutes over the next 50 years to see if Bill had amended his formulation of the Buckley Rule. But in the following year, 1965, he reaffirmed his position by running in New York City as a third-party conservative against a highly electable Republican. I can tell you as the manager of that campaign that there was never a single day, from our first planning meeting in February until the polls closed in November, that Bill considered himself even remotely electable. But viable? Absolutely. He was the best candidate in the country to carry the conservative message into the heart of American liberalism. And for those who needed further reinforcement of the point, five years later Bill's brother, James, ran for the U.S. Senate as a third-party candidate against a mainstream-Republican incumbent.

We all understand that it is Karl Rove's mission to promote the Republican party. It was the mission of Bill Buckley to promote the conservative cause. There should be no confusion between the two."

&

Re: The Buckley Rule - February 13, 2013

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/340585/re-buckley-rule-avik-roy

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

We have always been a country of laws....made of, for and by the people. That is what we must remain.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

BUT WHAT PART OF "ILLEGAL" DONT YOU GET, CONSERVATOR!! We have laws that should be followed, or changed...and not by executive order by a dictator Muslim. No other country allows people to just "come on in". Even Mexico! Their southern border is tight and secure! You get shot for crossing over down there. I'm with OneThinDime....we shouldn't "support candidates who pander to race or gender". I stand firm on this. I even edited my above comment after re-reading it. Nope, I stand firm on this.

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

Enjoy your sanctuary state. I live in a blue state with sanctuary cities and our annual deficit is almost 100% of the cost of those illegal aliens. Perry is going after CA and NY, HUGE DEM states and if CO moves in to TX it will become as Obama promised, blue by 2016.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

Mitt lost for the same reason McCain lost.....trying to be too civil..."Oh, I can't say that...it wouldn't be gentlemanly." Bull crap. That's why I love Sarah! She wanted to hit Obama right between the eyes on his relationships with Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, all of it, but the McCain bunch told her to zip it up. Maybe now she is ready to come out without the gloves and be that mama grizzly we all need. Whoever can talk the talk and walk the walk has my vote. And by God we need to get our base out there to vote. Even if they don't like Sarah (or whoever is chosen to represent the sane half of the country)...we need to choose the best of 2 evils....good over bad... we can't keep waiting for Mr. Perfect. He/She doesn't exist. But Satan the Muslim president has to go!

Conservator1
Conservator1

Mary, once again you make an assumption; I strongly supported Sarah Palin. In fact, her selection was one of the best moves McCain made in his failed presidential bid. She has a Reaganesque view of conservatism which I admire greatly.

Steve Schmidt (Operations Chief) and Nicolle Wallace (a senior McCain aide) were the major sources to the MSM attacking Palin during and after the election. When Obama won, MSNBC seem to have them on at least one show a day for a year and that tells you all you need to know about these turncoats. They were willing to see McCain loose the election because he chose Palin over their objections.

Mary, please don't act like Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace who are worthless elite moderates.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

I don't think my comment was an assumption....I believe it to be a fact. And I don't like to be compared to Schmidt or Wallace. Sarah Palin is still made fun of...5 years later.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

I could have thrown a shoe at the tv when Romney refused to talk about Benghazi at that debate. Gentleman? Stupidman. We could have had him when he had his own watching. That would have been the time to ask all the questions we are trying to get answered now. I'm still angry about that.

Mary Sieg
Mary Sieg

And who cares that Romney was a Mormon. I'm catholic, but he sure beat having radical Islam in our white house! I would vote for an atheist at this point if he/she respected the constitution. At least atheists don't believe in the Koran and killing Christians. They just think we are wasting our time praying to our Lord. I pray for atheists. And I pray God will destroy the Muslims....and He will.

JRD1
JRD1

South Florida's usually loyal conservative voters don't want any part of Bush moderate. Check out the 2012 election results for yourself. Cubans turned a deaf ear on Jeb and his Waterboy.

Conservator1
Conservator1

I'm in total agreement with your comment. In fact, I have turned a deaf ear to Jeb Bush too. But Cuban Americans did love Ronald Reagan and voted for him overwhelmingly in both elections he ran. Lastly, Bush 41 and 43 destroyed the strength of Reagan's conservatism as a legitimate alternative to Obama/Democrat's progressivism.

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

I did not support Reagan's potus bid in 1986 because of his amnesty desire for illegal aliens. I believe in the Constitution and the Rule of Law, not rewarding people for violating the law because they are Hispanic. The last thing this country needs is another illegal alien amnesty potus in 2016.

Conservator1
Conservator1

Did you support Reagan's presidential bid in 1986? If not, who did you vote for? While you are correct, history has proven this was one major failure among others that Reagan made. However, he won two landslide elections and I would still vote for him today. In 2016, Republicans need another Reagan.

OneThinDime
OneThinDime

Reagan campaigned on amnesty for illegals which is also why he garnered their votes. Check back a few weeks, Levin did a great segment on the Hispanic votes for Democrats.

Conservator1
Conservator1

That certainly was a major issue that helped Reagan garner a significant margin with Cuban Americans. But he also did well with Latinos; if conservatives actually campaigned hard with the Hispanic community, they would receive far many votes.

Conservatism has an appeal with many Hispanics, but if you don't go to their neighborhoods and don't target them via advertising explaining conservative values, then you will loose that vote like Romney.

Joengima
Joengima

Cuban Americans loved Ronald Reagan because Reagan battled communism which is what many Cuban Americans escaped from Cuba.