By The Right Scoop


Sen. Ted Cruz introduced an amendment to the current immigration bill back in May that would have removed the path to citizenship from the bill completely. But it also supported the same temporary legal status (RPI status) that is already in the bill that Sen. Marco Rubio has been discussing. And even more than that, it also supported permanent legal residency status as well.

Now if you happen to believe that temp legal status is amnesty, as some of you have suggested, then I guess that means Ted Cruz supports amnesty. But that’s not what it is. It isn’t amnesty. It’s temporary legal status that can’t move on to permanent legal residency status without the border being secured. The whole point of temporary legal status is to get people out of the ‘shadows’, which is what Cruz says in the video below.

He discusses at around 3:40:

 

Here’s a video we posted yesterday where he mentions the same RPI status at around 14:03:

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  • JohnCraven

    I have to disagree with Sen. Ted Cruz on this aspect of the bill.
    As even Rush Limbaugh has pointed out today after talking with Sen. Rubio, the moment this bill is signed into law, it will be challenged in court because it denies a pathway to citizenship and the benefits of citizenship for people who would be allowed to stay here legally, whether it’s temporary or not, and the courts will find for the plaintiffs as they almost always do.
    Enough of the pretzel logic behind this suicide pact with the Democrats that this bill is.
    John Craven – New Orleans

    • Orangeone

      JohnCraven The legal paperwork is already drawn up, likely by Jeb Bush.  Anyone that doesn’t support 100% deportation it out in my book period.

  • MrLTavern

    If I hear the nauseating liberal catch phrase “bring them out of the shadows” once more I’m going to demolish a wall.

  • HOUSTONPETITION

    well I don’t agree with that either. The “presence” is what I oppose because we are all stuck with the “erosion” of citizenship,declining communities, accessing infrastructures,crimewave, uncertain identities,etc…Americans never asked for this and it is being forced upon us.The whole thing is rotten to the core.

    • Keyes

      HOUSTONPETITION 
      Exactly. I don’t want them here. They hate us. They are disrepectful and they just take.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    I don’t agree with this part either. I still love Cruz because his objectives are different. Yet still the mimicking the “reform” talk, and “bringing out of the shadows” is bull and crap.

    • Orangeone

      AmericanborninCanada I wonder if he introduced this to force it out into the open that the whole goal is amnesty and citizenship.  I saw something else, can’t find it now on his strong position against rewarding the illegal behavior.  I have taken issue with his increase in H1B visas and have tweeted him as much.

      • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

        Orangeone AmericanborninCanada I was wondering the same- because I’ve heard him say that he’s against rewarding illegals as well.

        • Orangeone

          AmericanborninCanada Orangeone I’m going to do a bit of digging when I have time.  I recently read a pretty strong statement from him.  Did you see Harry Reid now says no vote if more border security is included?  Well, looks like the conservative Senators flushed out the true intentions.  Now why is the GOP sitting on their arse with that?

    • K-Bob

      AmericanborninCanada 
      Yep. Drives me nuts!  I do. not. understand this ploy they always try to use in DC.
      “I know, instead of just saying ‘KILL THE BILL’ I’ll offer an alternative! Yeah, that’s the ticket!!”
      This is why Romney and Newt failed in their cries to end Obamacare: they wanted to offer “a better solution!”
      We already had a better solution. They screwed it all up, just like they always do. We don’t need to do anything legislatively–not one blessed thing–until after the borders are secure.  After maybe five years of secured borders, then let’s think about other changes.  Just enforce the dang law, and secure the border.

      • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

        K-Bob AmericanborninCanada our solutions are too simple K-Bob. Why have a single sentence worth of solutions when you can spend money, time and manpower on a committee and 3000 pages of legalize bull crap.

        • K-Bob

          AmericanborninCanada K-Bob  
          Heh. Brevity is the soul of not-being-in-Washington.

        • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

          K-Bob AmericanborninCanada lol

  • Orangeone

    Then Cruz is on the amnesty side. When someone is not prosecuted for tax evasion like you and I would be and sent to prison for failing to file tax returns, report earnings and/or pay federal income tax, that is AMNESTY.  Now the CongressCritters are forgetting to mention that part.

  • SpikeT

    This is the first time I have seen a possible worthy application of bringing illegals out of the ‘shadows’.  It may be the first step toward identification and resolution. 
    Then again, I hope it wouldn’t simply turn out to be snipe hunting!!

    • Keyes

      SpikeT 
      Like we will know who they are if they come out of the shadows…. cartel members and future terrorists are going to come forward and let us know who they are…kind of like having law abiding folks register their guns, but we know the bad guys won’t.
      The REALLY bad guys won’t register themselves.

  • StevenValdez

    I think that pretty much means he’s against mass deportation, it’s better for society if they have legal status than not and what we have now, the problem is broken promises in securing the border, and that is what seems to be lacking in the Senate bill.

    • SpikeT

      StevenValdez Yes, broken promises  and bills lead to the “broken system” cliché.

    • Orangeone

      StevenValdez It is not better for society of they have legal status. 100% need to be run out of the country and those that are aiding and abetting thrown in prison. What’s the next set of crimes you are okay with?  Sex with minors because it is simply undocumented consent?

      • StevenValdez

        Orangeone nice hyperbole at the end there.. crossing the border illegal isn’t even a felony, having sex with minors is.

        • Keyes

          StevenValdez Orangeone 
          Ok then, let’s all sneak into Mexico and see how it goes.
          Quite frankly it should be a felony to invade our country.

        • K-Bob

          Keyes StevenValdez Orangeone I don’t think so.  If it were a felony we’d be obligated to put them up in our prisons.  We don’t need that. We have too many racist illegals in prison here already.

          Besides, I like it not being a federal crime; just keep it “not legal.”  That means deportation when they are caught, and not allowing people to hire them is the solution.  It would keep them out of our clogged court systems, as well.

          I even think we should offer to provide “Amnesty Rides” to the border for free.  In other words, if you admit you’re illegal, you should be allowed to show up with a bag, and get a free ride to the border, with meals and hotel provided.  Just leave.
          We don’t have to be jerks about it, we just should be firm in our resolve, and make it easy and safe for them to go.  We can even be magnanimous and ignore their possible prior illegal entry(ies) prior to applying for a visa in a US consulate or embassy in their own country.  Let the application process do its job.**
          Just do it all legally.
          **although I doubt anyone who has come here illegally would qualify in other areas, but hey, what the heck.

        • Orangeone

          StevenValdez Orangeone It isn’t hyperbole at all.  None of the illegal aliens will be run against the unsolved crimes databases so that gives them amnesty for 100% of the crimes they committed. And yes crossing the border illegally is a felony. Do some research.  Failing to file tax returns is a felony (multiple actually). Failing to pay income taxes is a felony (multiple actually).

        • StevenValdez

          Orangeone it is hyperbole because crime against is a person is a lot worse than a crime against the system, you simply can’t compare the damage or pain. The system is broken and it’s years and years of never fixing it, it’s fault. You simply can’t kick out millions of people and families that live here most of their lives, sorry I’m not for splitting up families but there has to be a way to secure the border, so the system is fixed and we aren’t bleeding out so much, so we can start the process of legal status or eventual citizenship down the road.

        • Keyes

          StevenValdez Orangeone No one is splitting up families. They should all be deported.
          Our system is not broken. Are enforcement of our laws is broken as is the character of your family members and all other illegals that chose to ignore our laws. They should have followed our laws, not snuck in here.

      • Keyes

        Orangeone StevenValdez 
        It’s better for Steven. He has admitted to being illegal then he said it was his grandmother who was illegal. Either way, it shows that they don’t care about this country…just what they want for themselves.

  • http://www.governmentmess.blogspot.com/ faustmanv

    It’s Simple Stupid! Secure The Border! Then after it is secured and verified as such we can address those here illegally. The biggest problem is the Government LIES! They will never secure the border! They said they would several time in the past and Lied to the American People! We must learn from our mistakes and the biggest mistake is to trust Big Government! Secure the damn border and verify it first! Then maybe we can talk about the illegals. This is so simple it is staggering how stupid they think we are! Then again the Majority voted for a Marxist Racist Dictator for a second term of Disaster. Maybe they have a point?

  • Keyes

    So, Cruz is now for amnesty too.
    Yup, it’s amnesty. Giving them any kind of legal status is amnesty.
    So, if the borders are secured they then get citizenship? If  it’s not secured we then deport them?? AFTER they have been given legal status?
    Scoop, are you aware that we taxpayers will be paying for all the paperwork to give these illegals legal status??

    • Wiggy111

      Keyes 10-20 million illegal aliens is 10-20 years of immigration case work so they will have to rubber stamp the applications if they want to get it done in a year or two.  So basically they get a short cut in a brand new line all just for them because they are special for breaking the law.

  • http://www.therightscoop.com/ MadJack

    Sorry there is absolutely nothing in government temporary.

    • Wiggy111

      MadJack Temporary legalization is like a temporary tax.  It will be permanent.

    • pushtheredbutton

      MadJack EXACTLY!

  • Gtrjag

    I don’t mind giving people temporary legal status or even allowing them to stay permanently as long as they don’t become citizens. Most of the illegal immigrants in this country are not bad people. The problem is that the left intends to use them for pawns to further their political agenda. For them its all about creating a new underclass. Illegal Immigration is not the problem. It is a symptom of the problem. The problem is the welfare state. The welfare state attracts the wrong type of immigrant and ruins the work ethic of decent people who come here seeking a better life. We must address the root of the problem. If we would do that Illegal immigration would be much less of a problem.

    • Keyes

      Gtrjag 
      You do understand that if they get “temprorary legal status” they will be able to access welfare easier? They come here for welfare and other free stuff.
      Many aren’t coming here for a better life. Many are running drugs across our borders and setting up the cartel throughout the country. Many of these “poor migrant’ workers were drug mules as they crossed the border. Mexico also empties their prisons out and brings them to the border.
      Mexico only prosecutes 1% of their rape cases. You sure you want millions of men with that attitude?

      • Tamikosmom

        Keyes Gtrjag 
        What about voting rights?
        What part of illegal does Cruz and the Gang of eight not get?

      • Gtrjag

        Keyes Gtrjag Not all of them come over for free stuff and most of them are not murderers and Rapist. If you dry up the welfare and end the drug war the problem would resolve itself.

        • Keyes

          Gtrjag Keyes 
          Well whoopdee doo! They’re not all rapists and murderers (approx 13 Americans are murdered everyday by illegals…statistics don’t mean much to those victims’ families). 25% of our federal prisons are illegal aliens.
          Everytime an illegal has a baby we pay for all their medical bills. Very few pay anything. Cost of educatiing their kids is through the roof.
          Legalizing drugs won’t make the cartels go away. This isn’t like Prohibition (that outlawed something most people did).
          People do need to quit doing hard drugs and that would put the cartel out of business.
          Our country is being destroyed. We can’t assimilate all these folks. Not to mention over 60% of Mexicans (both legal and illegal) think the West belongs to them. They have the same intentions of taking over our gov’t that muslims have..
          Our complex has been having work done for months now. Mostly illegals and they don’t give a rip about their quality of work. They do something and they cause additional damage. They have destroyed the grounds on the property. A few years back we had a bunch of work done and there was NO damage caused by the workers because they were American.
          Every illegal working in this country HAS STOLEN A JOB FROM AN AMERICAN AND MOST ARE USING STOLEN SS#s.
          A ring of illegals was busted last year. They had all paid 5000 bucks for SS#s. Now where do you think those poor little migrant workers got that kind of money? Running drugs. Many are in the cartels and gangs and just work during the day for cover.

        • Keyes

          Gtrjag Keyes
          I want you to look at this video of illegals telling us to go back to Mexican and to die. Millions marched in our streets in 2006. The guy saying this garbage is in the CA legislature!
          Ever heard of La Raza and Mecha? Two racist hispanic groups that actually talk about the ethnic cleansing of whites, blacks, an Asians (they are too stupid to understand that they are white and Asian too).
          http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/the_scariest_pro_illegal_immigration_video_youll_see_all_day/

        • Gtrjag

          Keyes Gtrjag I don’t argue that their is a problem. I just think it can be solved another way besides mass deportation.  I do get annoyed at the blanket characterization of Mexicans. To compare them to Muslims is utterly absurd. The real culprit are the native born Americans who bought into the class warfare rhetoric of FDR and LBJ and all the rest of the leftist. There the ones that sowed the seeds of our current mess.

        • Gtrjag

          Keyes Gtrjag The illegals aren’t the only people we are supporting. We have home grown bums as well.

        • Keyes

          Gtrjag Keyes 
          Oh don’t give me this “mass deportation” nonsense. Deportation works.  Ever heard of Operation Wetback? In 1953 we had around 3 million illegals and Eisenhower aggresively deported about 1000 a day for three months. He dropped them off 500 miles south of the border. Most self deported.
          Oh and approx. 25 Americans are killed everyday by illegals. Half through drunk driving and half through murder. Since 9-11 over 100,000 Americans have lost their lives to illegals…..most Mexican nationals.
          Don’t give me this “blanket characterization of Mexicans”. That is not a good defense.

        • Keyes

          Gtrjag Keyes I am well aware of that, but many blue states now used to go red and illegal and too high legal immigration is one of the reasons.

    • Keyes

      Gtrjag 
      Don’t forget, they don’t want citizenship. Citizens have to buy health insurance….temporary status and illegals don’t!!

      • Gtrjag

        Keyes Gtrjag Maybe I should renounce my citizenship and become an illegal immigrant.

        • Keyes

          Gtrjag Keyes 
          I have thought about it.

  • Wiggy111

    There is no such thing.  Once they are legalized,  citizenship is inevitable regardless of what happens on the border.  If you believe otherwise you are fooling yourself.  The dems will hammer the GOP over head until they cave.

  • marketcomp

    Yelp, NO PATH to CITIZENSHIP! I trust Ted Cruz more than any other! He is vry smart!

  • Wiggy111

    I don’t agree Scoop.  I think Cruz is just trying to chip away at the bill. So what should Cruz do? Present an amendment that says there is no legalization?  That would make as much sense as offering an amendment back in 2010 to the Obamacare bill that says nobody can get Obamacare.

  • Gtrjag

    We have to fight the left on amnesty and Ted Cruz is doing just that. However, we cannot become so fixated on immigration that we lose focus on the other more critical issues. If we don’t end the welfare state, control Federal Spending, and bring the Federal Government back within it’s Constitutional limits we won’t have a country worth securing. We don’t all have to agree with Cruz on this issue, but I believe his motives are pure

    • Keyes

      Gtrjag 
      There won’t be a country to fight for if this amnesty happens. We will just be a piece of land. Everyone here illegall will be legalized and they can then send for family members.
      FORGET about ever getting conservatives in Congress or the WH ever again. It will be the end of our nation. One reason the welfare state has grown if legal and illegal aliens are getting on the dole. Most are unskilled and many can’t even read in their own language. They will be on welfare if they are here.

      • badbadlibs

        Keyes 100% right! There’s NO such thing as a country without borders! This country has become so dumbed downed by democrats and their ideology. I heard chucky schumer say today that if this bill passes there will no longer any such thing as an illegal immigrant. What the h e double toothpicks is the matter with that stupid, stupid man??????????

      • Gtrjag

        Keyes Gtrjag I don’t want them to get citizenship, I don’t want them voting. I want the border secured.  I’m just trying to keep things in perspective. whether we close the boarder or not. Whether we have amnesty or not, our country is doomed unless we return to the Constitution and a limited Federal Government. I get frustrated that good, brave politicians like Ted Cruz, Rick Perry, and Rand Paul get crucified on this board because they stray from some peoples strict standards when it comes to immigration. Ted Cruz is not going wobbly. He is one of the strongest men in the Senate and its absolutely absurd that people are willing to turn on him because of this. When it comes to a final vote Ted Cruz will not vote for the immigration Bill because it most likely will have a path to citizenship in it. The Democrats would not vote for a bill that someone like Cruz or myself or Right Scoop would support.
        It’s been fun but I’m going to sleep now.

        • Keyes

          Gtrjag Keyes 
          Don’t you get it? Illegals ARE voting now. Why do you think dems fight voter id laws. I met a woman from California a couple of years ago and she said they walk right in a vote all the time in CA.
          Don’t you understand that the reason we have Obamacare is because of illegals? Sharon Angle won every county in Nevada, but one…in that one county they estimate 10’s of thousands of illegals voted….and they voted for Reid…and because of that we got Obamacare.
          Illegals come from Marxist slop and they vote for it when they get here. They are making our gov’t BIGGER.
          Perry supports open borders. I have a speech he has posted on his governor’s website where he says he supports open borders.
          Rand is for amnesty. These are nonstarters. You support amnesty, you support the end of our Constitutional Republic.Period.

    • Amjean

      I agree with you.  12-40 million illegals are not going to be marched across the border.  The illegals do not deserve citizenship unless they go to the back line at the very least.  The key issue should be, of course, closing down the border.  However, we must also remove eligibility for welfare benefits.   If you are illegal and have a baby on American soil, that baby should NOT be rewarded with a US citizenship.  Stopping welfare benefits would make many of them self deport.  The others that are here as a family, working and contributing to our society should be given some consideration, however, not automatic citizenship.
      I think that depending on where you live and your personal experience with Hispanics colors your viewpoint on this issue.  There are gangs, thugs, do nothings, etc. as in every “group”.  However, there are also families who work, who own property and keep it up, who attend church and who only want to be left alone to raise their children.  I have a friend who lives in San Diego and another who lives in Arizona.  They have seen the damage illegals have done to their communities.  They despise them and would like to personally march them all across the border.  Believe me, I understand their anger.  The Mexicans, in particular, have become arrogant because they know nothing will happen to them.  They come over to get welfare.  Pregnant mothers from Mexico used to (not sure if it has been stopped) come across the border apparently to shop; the reality is that many 9 months pregnant, would hope to go into labor when on the US side.
      On the other side of the coin are the families I see at sporting events and parks.  Pretty much normal families wanting a better life.   Heck, I have even been encouraged by the number of them who speak English.  Was at a soccer game a few months ago and everyone on the team spoke English to one another.  And that is an improvement believe me! 
      All these circumstances coupled with the fact with our government along with we, the citizens, have let this go on for decades makes it a more complicated issue.  I will continue to listen to the politicians I trust and there are few of them; mainly Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.  I think they are both trying hard to come up with a solid plan.  I have come to despise Rubio.  I think of him as Jeb Bushie’s Hispanic plant for votes.

      • Keyes

        Amjean Rand voted to end cloture on this disaster…which means it will now come to the floor for a vote. He wants amnesty.
        Just start deporting and tell them to get out.

  • JS2020

    Any Illegal who has children and they usually have several, will be automatic citizens who will grow up to vote. All the while making them able to collect welfare. Part of the bill should be mandatory revoking of the anchor baby citizenship.

    • Keyes

      JS2020 They aren’t citizens now. We have just been letting them get away with it. The 14th amendment gave citizenship to freed blacks. Period.
      The Congressional Globe of 1866 is where the proceedings of the 14th amendment were written and Jacob Howard (author of the line “Subject to the jurisdiction” was recorded as saying, “This will NOT include babies born to foreigners, aliens, …..

  • BogdanJodkowski

    Ted is going “WOBBLY” on his beliefs…

  • John_Frank

    RS, you are mixing apples and oranges.
    Yes, temporary legalization is amnesty.
    However, the difference between the position taken by Cruz and Rubio is crucial.
    Under Cruz’s proposal, temporary legalization (amnesty) does not become permanent until after the border is secured and interior enforcement is being carried out. Furthermore, those who follow this path are not eligible for a green card and citizenship, meaning they can never vote.
    Needless to say the Democrats, along with Senators Flake, Graham, McCain and Rubio object to this approach, making a mockery of their claims that they have any real concerns about national security.
    Under Rubio’s bill, temporary legalization (amnesty) becomes permanent irrespective of whether the border is secured or not and interior enforcement is handcuffed; and thereafter these individuals can apply for a green card and citizenship, meaning they can vote.
    This shows that the Democrats, along with Senators Ayotte, Flake, Graham, McCain and Rubio are not concerned about national security, despite their protestations to the contrary.
    So, while Cruz’s proposal squares the circle between amnesty and border security, along with immigration enforcement in the interior; Rubio’s proposal does not.
    P.S. This is why Cornyn’s amendment, which calls for temporary legalization (amnesty) which does not become permanent until 12 months after the border is secured and interior enforcement is being carried out, after which these individuals can apply for a green card and ultimately citizenship is attractive to both Republicans and a number of Democrats. It also squares the circle of amnesty, along with border security and interior enforcement. Yet, surprise, surprise McCain is pushing back to stop it, again proving that the gang of 8, along with the Democrats who support their bill have no interest in actually securing the border, while wanting to handcuff interior enforcement, making a complete mockery of McCain’s national security credentials.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

      John_Frank Cruz supports Green Card. You are mistaken. But I never said their plans were the same. In fact I pointed out what Cruz’s amendment was supposed to do. 
      Perhaps you missed the point of this post.

      • John_Frank

        therightscoopJohn_Frank
        With respect, the amendment that Senator Cruz put forward would remove the ability of illegal aliens from becoming citizens. Now, I may be mistaken, but a green card not only allows someone to be a permanent resident, but also allows that person to become a citizen. As such, under Senator Cruz’s amendment illegal aliens could not receive a green card.
        Please see the following:
        http://www.cruz.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=342849

        • jcrichichi

          John_Frank therightscoop You’re wrong. A green card makes the person a Residential Alien. My mom has a green card but never decided to become an American Citizen.

    • Keyes

      John_Frank If illegals are on our soil dems are letting them vote. Period.

  • Nosmo

    Rush,Sean and Mark…The three top hosts in radio…With millions of listeners a day…They could have hammered Rubio from the beginning…They chose not to…For the last month Marco has received a free pass from them…Hannity has even gone over to the dark side…How can anyone ever take these guys seriously anymore…

    • BS61

      Tonight on the way home, Michelle Bachmann was on Levin, and said that nobody was bringing down the phone lines and that Boehner was working with the Dems.  I agree that they should have NOT given him a pass.

  • c4pfan

    Sorry, I’m not stupid enough to fall for the BS.  I don’t care who’s saying it.

  • SheerPolitics

    Temporary status is what we USED to have. A migrant worker could come in on a seasonal or as needed basis, work and then go home. The problem became when we stopped making them leave. 
    A temporary status would allow people to come in and work, be paid a fair wage (which would make them less attractive to employers), pay taxes, go home and come back the next season. However, we MUST secure the border and Cruz knows this. 
    What the Senate is trying to shove down our throats now is a permanent, legal residency and eventually a pathway to citizenship. Because once they are permanent, legal residents, just you watch the discrimination lawsuits start to force them to be able to become citizens or get the very benefits, Rubio tries to claim they won’t be eligible for! But by that time the camel’s nose will be well under the tent.

  • K-Bob

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/the-republic-is-at-stake/
    I wish Ted would just drop the “legalization” stuff.  We’re now at at the point where the problem is another thousand-page monstrosity that will end the Republic. So shut up about “reform” and start getting on the “Kill this bill!” bandwagon.
    And I have to say, all the attention to the NSA is going to play in barack’s favor on this.  If people want to focus on the NSA and watch the Nation end at the vote on amnesty in the House, then we are totally screwed.

    • John_Frank

      K-BobFour observations:
      – The amendment that Senator Cruz proposed was put forward during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings.
      – Senator Cruz voted against the bill in committee.
      – Senator Cruz voted against the motion to bring the bill up for debate before the Senate.
      Because of the huge push in support of the bill by big labor, big business and big money, to stop the bill requires that we the people tell our representatives in the Senate and House, not just no, but hell no.
      In that regard, see the following:
      Reid Blocks Senate Vote on Border Security Amendment to Immigration Bill
      http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2FBig-Government%2F2013%2F06%2F12%2FFloor-Fight-Reid-blocks-Senate-vote-on-border-security-before-amnesty-amendment&h=5AQHW2_Bc&s=1
      After you have read the article, listen to the interview that Mark
      Levin did with Senator Sessions. The Senator does a good job of setting
      out the problems with the Amnesty Bill. This bill will have a
      particularly harmful impact on poorer Americans, suppressing wages and
      making it harder to find work.
      By objecting to Senator Grassley’s motion for an up and down vote on his amendment, so requiring a 60 vote threshold, Majority Leader Reid made clear the majorities plan.
      In the circumstances, I urge you to sit down and write a letter to the
      two Senators from your State urging him or her to oppose the Amnesty
      Bill.
      Follows is a sample letter:
      Dear Senator [insert name]
      Majority Leader Reid has decided to require a 60 vote threshold on any
      proposed amendment to the Immigration Bill presently before the Senate.
      It is therefore clear that none of the problems with this legislation,
      as outlined by Senators Grassley and Sessions in their speeches in the
      Senate Judiciary Committee and on the Senate Floor will be fixed before
      this bill comes to a vote.
      This bill, in its present form is not
      in the interest of all Americans, but rather will cause detrimental harm
      to working Americans now and in the future.
      I must therefore
      call upon you to vote against the motion to end debate on this bill and
      should the bill come up for a vote on the Senate floor to vote no.
      Please understand that if you vote in favor of the motion to end debate
      on this bill, and should the bill come up for a vote on the Senate
      floor you vote to support passage of this bill, I will be obliged to
      withdraw my political support for you, and I will encourage all my
      family and friends to do the same.
      Thank you for your attention to these matters,
      Kind regards,
      [insert name]
      Then, after obtaining the address of your two Senator’s offices in Washington, post the letter.
      That is correct. For maximum impact, rather than send two emails, or
      make two phone calls, I urge you to sit down, write two letters to the
      Senators in your State and mail them. Then, I ask you to urge your
      family and friends to do the same.
      Some will say, it does not matter, the fix is in, so on and so forth.
      Well guess what, it will not matter if people take that attitude.
      However, if people take action, it is quite possible that we can and
      will make a difference.
      Okay, end of my rant. Trusting the rest of your evening is blessed.
      P.S. If you are not familiar with the concerns that Senators Grassley
      and Sessions have with the Amnesty bill, go to their Senate web pages,
      read their material and then go to their YouTube pages and listen to
      their remarks.
      P.P.S. People let’s take action.

      • K-Bob

        John_Frank K-Bob We get it.  That’s what Michelle Bachmann says, too, which is why I posted it.

        (but please be careful with repeated copies of the same comment. I know it’s important, but it’s better to have just one copy of something.  You can link to your comment elsewhere, if you want people to see it.)

      • lawngreen

        John_FrankK-Bob”not just no, but hell no.” That’s what cruz should have said, every time, all the time, and this time. Not “well here’s a little wiggle room”.
        As for sending letters to reprehensible reps, that no longer does any good. It’s all posturing and acting. “All the Congress is a stage…”

  • jhngalt9

    Well that’s the ballgame. There isn’t a single Republican leader that is against amnesty.

  • odin147

    If you entered illegally how can you become legal. Leave the country and apply for legality like every other immigrant.

    • sDee

      odin147  
      Worse. They only way in is a chit – to be called in as often as necessary.

  • K-Bob

    MasterTard (or the idiot formerly known as Chris Matthews) goes Full Retard, and says:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3030683/posts (link to FreeRepublic)

  • sDee

    Border security is a red herring. A distraction.
    That the illegals in this country are Mexicans who wandered across Rio Grande is another distraction.
    1/3 of illegals now are here on expired visas which means they more  likely came in from islamist and socialist counties on planes, than fomr Mexico.

    The “border” is enormous and virtual because it is every airport, seaport, bus terminal and rental car counter. The only way to “secure it” is to enforce existing law. The primary tool to do that is requiring id and visa paperwork at each any any societal point that requires it (e.g. hotel, bank account, government benefits, drivers license).
    Every other county in the world does this. America intentionally does not.
    America is the last stand. The Republicans are redcoats. All is lost once this bill passes. We will be a permanent democracy – the final step to tyranny.

    The people of Turkey are smothered in teargas fighting the erosion of their rights. We foolishly trust these elephants.

  • pushtheredbutton

    I am hearing all sorts about how this proposal by Cruz isn’t amnesty because it asks for brder security first. One question, and this is not just for Cruz (who I believe is a decent man), but it is a question for Rubio and all his other law-breaking friends too: 
    Why do the American people have to bargain with their government before it does its job and secures their nation’s borders? I am bewildered by this. Somebody please explain. Because it seems to me as though our leaders are offering up a false choice, deliberately.

    • sDee

      pushtheredbutton  
      Because we are naive, brainwashed, trusting and dumbed down?
      We need only enforce exisitng immigratoin  law and the vast majority of illegals will go home. The problem is that our politicians are globalist world governance puppets andwhores .
       If we saw them for what they are – traitors who have sold their country out and violated their oath of office,  we would be rioting in every city in every state

    • sDee

      The smell of fear:
      http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cWXwR0z1-c4/Ubir-I07GxI/AAAAAAACYfI/4VLpapxRuZ0/s1600/the+smell+of+fear.jpg
      Why are we not standing up? We will soon not have the ability to. They know this and are acting with haste.

      • pushtheredbutton

        sDeeThis is one option, preseted by Bachmann: http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/the-republic-is-at-stake/

      • lawngreen

        sDee  We need a leader. cruz just disqualified himself, Palin quit a long time ago, Bachmann is worn out …. who’s left? Suggestions are welcome.

        The only option is to stand as individuals. That’s fine with me; I’m ready to leave this planet. But it’s also futile, and we are all hesitating, hoping for a leader. I’m afraid it won’t happen.

        • Keyes

          lawngreen sDee 
          Alan Keyes.

        • lawngreen

          Keyes Relative? Yourself? I’ve seen very little of Alan Keyes, although what I did see I liked.

    • lawngreen

      pushtheredbutton   Because the persons in government are our enemies, and from their point of view, bargaining is just one step on the road to complete surrender.

  • StandWithAZ

    WOW…looks like The Right Scoop has officially jumped the shark! So now TRS is telling us that “temporary protected status” is NOT amnesty? Of course it is. You are taking tens of millions of people who broke the law to come here, and are breking the law every day via identity theft and social security fraud, and handing them LEGAL status, and work permits, with NO fines or punishments whatsoever for their past crimes…and a measly $12/month “fee” (eventually), that the DHS secretary is empowered to waive for “hardship” cases. NO “back taxes” will be mandated from ANY illegals – unless the IRS has an express prior collection action – even illegals who defrauded taxpayers for $4.2 billion a year n phony EITC credits for children living in Mexico will NOT be required to pay that back and in fact will be eligible for NEW EITC credits! And once they get this RPI status, a whole host of Democrat judges and Obama Cabinets will grant new rights, privileges and welfare to them by fiat. And New York City will give them the right to vote, which will quickly be followed by other cities.
    THIS IS AMNESTY. PERIOD. ANY granting of legal status to illegal aliens is by definition amnesty.

    • sDee

      StandWithAZ  
      I also do not understand why it is all so hard for people to see.
      A   foreign citizen presence on US soil without a current visa or beyond their permitted visit time, it is prima facie evidence that they violated Federal law. Period.
      They should be brought before a judge.
      Anything else is amnesty. Any politician who tries to convince us otherwise, is dishonest.

      • lawngreen

        sDee StandWithAZ   sDee, it’s not hard to see. The line in the sand has been clearly drawn. Those who cross it know exactly what they are doing.

    • The Sentinel

      StandWithAZ 
      Brilliant post!

    • lawngreen

      StandWithAZ   AMEN.

  • sDee

    Cruz seems to have  very strong amendment that could cripple much of what the subversive DC crowd intends to do – especially the elimination of diversity quotas.

    If he believes that securing that amendment and elimination all future avenues of citizenship, requires  giving some sort of amnesty to those here illegally by limiting them to a type of work visa, then he needs to just come out and say so.
    Illegals must face a judge under existing law then renter and re-apply. I do not trust anyone in government – the  left will agree to Cruz’s amendment and then their millions stong league of judicial and beircatic nimions will reverse ti all. 1000 pages ensures 100,000 discretionary loopholes.

    The existing 1965 immigration Act needs to be repealed.

    • The Sentinel

      sDee 
      Excellent.

    • lawngreen

      sDee  And cruz (no longer Cruz, in my book) has to know this. He’s too smart not to.

  • freeperjim

    Amensty for 30-40 MILLION socialists by any name is the death knell of America and the Constitution.

    It ensures socialism will win ALL national elections.

    Helloooooooo, our new Mehico socialism!

  • ryanomaniac

    They aren’t in the shadows!!!I see their asses everywhere!! My town is overrun with these cockroaches!! I know some will support Rubio regardless cause they see him as some Republican night in shining armor like what I read that TRS just said but maybe just maybe everyone should bring their behinds to Texas and Arizona before they stay on the Rubio train! Your mind would change in a second. Anyone that supports Rubio is supportive of the invasion of OUR country. Period. Learn to be bilingual suckers. You ain’t getting a job without it.

    • PVG

      ryanomaniac Add CA to TX and AZ. No shadows here either, out in the sunshine driving this state into bankruptcy.

      • The Sentinel

        PVG ryanomaniac 
        Add Georgia to that mix.

      • ryanomaniac

        PVG ryanomaniac Forgot about CA. How’d that happen? Oh, I thought that that the name had been changed to El Californio.

      • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

        PVG ryanomaniac and speaking of sunshine and state, Florida is crawling with them as well.

        • lawngreen

          AmericanborninCanada PVG ryanomaniac  A friend still living in Florida wrote me that when Castro’s empty-the-jails-boat-people came over, Florida became a dark and dangerous place.

        • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

          lawngreen AmericanborninCanada PVG ryanomaniac  I’ve never had any problem with Cuban folks. Know a few and they’re wonderful and they love America. But yes, there are so many now from so many parts of S. America, and even in the small towns where there are a lot of illegals, the crime has skyrocketed. Everything from grow houses, prostitution/slave trade, shootings, gangs and robberies. It’s pitiful. :-(

    • john11111

      ryanomaniac our mails, phones, etc – are being seen, heard DAILY. But “they are in the shadows”?
      I respectfully disagree  –  euphemism for: BULLS*ITT ! ! ! ! ! !

    • sDee

      ryanomaniac  
      Here in NC they vote, get federal, state local government benefits, even buy guns.  Some shadows.
      They love to rub it in our faces.

      Make’em show and ID and pay back taxes and they’ll run for the shadows.

      • Orangeone

        sDee ryanomaniac In MN, they work for cash, get federal and state tax credits well above any taxes they ever paid and then get unemployment during the winter, all paid for by the taxpayers.

      • lawngreen

        sDee ryanomaniac   Frequently when they have auto accidents they bail and run. Can’t find the driver because, if they even have ID, the address isn’t where they live. Per law enforcement officer.

    • Orangeone

      ryanomaniac Come on to Mpls and take a look at the illegal Somalians that are running money back to Al Queda.

  • stage9

    “if you happen to believe that temp legal status is amnesty, as some of you have suggested, then I guess that means Ted Cruz supports amnesty.”
    The problem is THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS “TEMPORARY” IN POLITICS! Ask Reagan! He was apparently promised a secure border in exchange for amnesty. He got the amnesty but never the security!
    Democrats will NOT secure the border. EVER! It is NOT going to happen. 
    Negotiation to a liberal is “give me everything in exchange for nothing.” And idiot repugnantcans fall for it every time.
    I want to ask, WHY does this even need to happen right now? Is it like Bachmann says, that it’s to distract from the myriad of scandals rocking the White House? YES!
    This is a political chess match. Your queen is in danger repugnantcans… AGAIN! What is your next move?

    • The Sentinel

      stage9 
      Excellently stated.
      The Republicans seem to be playing checkers while the evil democraps are playing chess. The “craps” cannot be reasoned with… I’d like to meet them somewhere along the way… to work out a reasonable solution… but as you eloquently stated, it’s “One for me, none for you, Two for me, none for you” with them. WE ARE AT WAR! And the GOPe is feeding, aiding, and abetting the enemy. Republicans are using their fingers and mouths to imitate weapons while the democraps are using the real things and surprise surprise, are winning.
      This is so easy for us to see. Why won’t they acknowledge this in Washington. Oh yeah, it’s because we are at war and the guys who used to wear the white hats are now wearing gray or black ones.
      If this gets done during the Obama regime, then it’s going to suck. Bank on it.

      • stage9

        The Sentinel  stage9 It’s like I have said before. Repugnantcans still live under the notion that liberals are like them. That they think like them. Desire the same outcome as them. That they have the same love of country as them. THEY DO NOT!
        Liberals have plans for this country that repugnantcans can’t even BEGIN to wrap their narrow little minds around! Liberals are ALWAYS one step ahead of them. 
        That’s why they’re able to side-step all of these scandals and refocus the nation’s attention right BACK on their own agenda. They know it’s a new week with new possibilities. The last several weeks it’s been scandal after scandal. This week, miraculously, it’s all about IMMIGRATION AGAIN!
        What happened to the scandals?
        What scandals?

        • Orangeone

          stage9 The Sentinel Not to mention, the Benghazi murders, Fast and Furious, the Mexican drug cartels, rising unemployment, the debt, and on and on.

        • lawngreen

          stage9 The Sentinel I sent romney a letter to this effect when he was campaigning, telling him that obama and team were his enemies, not just his political opponents. I’m sure it never got through. No big deal. Even if the letter had gotten through, it wouldn’t have gotten through.
          romney not only tried to be Mister Nice Guy (except to conservatives), he assumed everybody else was a nice guy too. That’s a classic case of stupid for you.

  • john11111

    50+ million of DNC voters, no border security…
    PROOF:
    (today on Drudge)…………………………………Harry Reid (D-NV) blocked a vote on the border security

  • DHardy

    Looks like Cruz just stepped in a pile of Rubio’s crapp

    • The Sentinel

      DHardy 
      Priceless.

  • misterlogic0013

    Come on Cruz .. what shadows ?? their everywhere, every street corner, cutting your lawn right now .. what shadows? get a grip Cruzy .. stay strong ..

  • The Sentinel

    Someone needs to tell the mobs that hang out in portions of my cities (en masse) that they need to go back and hide in the shadows where they belong. They seem more emboldened these days…
    I realize something needs to be done… and that this insanity has gone on for decades. Whatever is done is going to cause anger from either side. My major concern (other than the fact that these illegal aliens broke our laws and infest our cities) is that the momentum is now with the democraps… who have proven time and again to be unreliable and sinister in their intentions. They want this because it will upset balance in our country, it provides an influx of fresh, uneducated democratic voters to exploit, it benefits the Fing unions, and many other reasons.
    I adore Ted Cruz and feel he has a handle on most things. But to support this smelly pile of trash would make me very sad. This will be a MAJOR victory for Obama and the democraps if it passes. And it will seriously damage our nation… while also ushering in another migration of moochers from the south. There ARE other solutions. Secure the border FIRST… that’s step one. A step that everyone in Washington seems to feel is negotiable.
    This whole mess infuriates me to no end. Most Americans play by the rules, obey laws, pay their taxes, etc. and these invaders come and exploit that and further stress our economy and systems… much to the delight and encouragement of democraps and flaming liberals. We are allowing our nation to be destroyed… piece by piece.
    I hope Ted stands against this pile of diarrhea. Because I don’t see it as a win for the good guys at all.

  • Laurel A

    I see what Cruz is saying but I gotta ask…What shadows? Illegal immigrants are employed at every level of our society. They aren’t just picking lettuce. They are in our schools. they are in our emergency rooms. They are getting mortgages.
    WHAT SHADOWS????
    CAN I BE A PART OF THOSE SHADOWS? HOW DO I DO IT? Then NSA can’t spy on me.

    • trouble06

      Laurel A Sorry Laurel, I went on almost the same rant as you.

      • Laurel A

        trouble06 Laurel A No apologies necessary.

  • strangernfiction

    Cruz is the best a statist party has to offer.

  • poorhardworker

    off topic:  I just saw this on Drudge:  http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/criminals_hired_by_state_dept_nJMKeYl5ZQEI5UsEytHoOM

    • strangernfiction

      poorhardworker Criminals hiring criminals. Who knew?

    • lawngreen

      poorhardworker   What the heck, their boss was hillary. There’s a criminal for you. Talk about a checkered past….

  • cabensg

    Piss on the whole Damn thing there are no good parts to support. I could care less if they come out of the shadows or stay in the shadows, when we find them deport them. We need to secure the border and apply current law and deport those we find as we find them. THAT’S ALL.

    • strangernfiction

      cabensg Those that try to convince you that it’s more complicated than that are at best behaving cowardly.

  • pmb88

    There are a lot of things Im asking here. How many illegal immigrants are there if they are apparently in the ‘shadows’?  Some places say 10 million, 20 million, or highest I’ve seen is 50 million. I’ve always read its one those numbers but I never learned or read the report on how they tabulated that number?

    • Keyes

      pmb88 
      No one knows, but if you give them legal status, they can send for family members…which means one illegal will send for at least 5 folks.

  • Longiron

    How do U get in the shadows so I can get the Gov’t from spying on their citizens ??? Some politician just has to have the Ba**s to add they cannot vote for 10 years. Give them legal status, freebies, healthcare BUT cannot vote for 10 years and must be able to speak English within that time frame. Problem solved !!!!! remember the GOP, RINOS only supporting this because they think (and they are wrong again) they can get enough Hispanics to replace the TP conservatives in this country. Anything else is BS

    • Orangeone

      Longiron Rewarding 33 million illegal aliens will brings hundreds of millions more illegal aliens.  I’d like to see you go to the families that have been harmed by illegal aliens and tell them you want the illegal aliens to remain in this country.  Go to the 20 million Americans that can’t find jobs because illegal aliens work for cash. Then go to the Americans that lose their jobs because of ObamaCare and an illegal alien is hired, the employer is paid $3,000 to do it, the employer doesn’t have to provide health insurance for the illegal alien. Go to those Americans that lost their jobs and tell them that it’s a good thing to reward law breakers.
      BTW, would you like to pay for their freebies, their education, their health care?  You can have my share and the tax burden for millions of other Americans. Their cost is almost $10 trillion.  Let your kids pay for it and be owned by the gov’t, fine with me.

  • john11111

    “WASHINGTON — The State Department has hired an alarming number of law-enforcement agents with criminal or checkered backgrounds”.
    Sounds familiar?
    Khmer Rouge, Stalin, Mao  –  they all hired criminals to control the rest of the population

    • Orangeone

      john11111 Just wait until Obama releases his black felons.  He can do it all quietly with gag orders and really set revenge on white Americans.

      • K-Bob

        Orangeone john11111 Aside from the fact that your statement is a bit over the top, racially, it doesn’t really make much sense to me as long as we still have a second amendment.
        Of course, if they somehow decide they can take that away, we’ll be in the middle of a war, so who cares about barack’s minions.

        • Orangeone

          K-Bob Orangeone john11111 It isn’t over the top racially K-Bob.  He has been very clear in his support of the NBPP wanting to kill cracker babies.  Have you looked at the releases CA has done?  What about the illegal aliens with serious criminal records his administration released on Americans?  And you think he won’t arm those felons with the millions of rounds of ammo DHS has been stockpiling and the firearms they are purchasing?

        • Orangeone

          Incarceration rate: 4,437 black males per 100,000 residents of same race compared to 678 whites and 1,775 Hispanic.  39.4% of the prison population is black. BTW, these are the way inmates are classified in the prison system.

        • K-Bob

          Orangeone Yeah, I’m up to speed on the details.  My point about over-the-top is that it’s better to discuss these highly volatile facts in extremely non-volatile language.  Better to go out of your way to be precise without triggering the usual flames induced by using factually-accurate, but volatile language.
          Don’t get me wrong: we don’t have to be PC, but there’s little to be gained by being 180 degrees opposite of PC, unless you are in an actual confrontation (where it can be useful to make your opponent as mad as possible).

  • welltempered2

    Does anyone think once any form of legal status is given it would be then possible to be taken away in the America of 2013?

    • lawngreen

      welltempered2   Not a snowball’s chance in he!!.

    • Keyes

      welltempered2 Precisely…and they could then send for their family members.

  • lawngreen

    Oh cr__. Oh s___. Here we go. Fancy dancing again.
    Get them out of the shadows and into a bus headed BACK where they came from. Anything else is a front for amnesty. Amnesty today, amnesty six months after the election, no difference. You’re either for border security AND legal-only immigration or you’re for amnesty. “Temporary” legal status – yeah, right, sure, temporary until after the election.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    The onbly way I would be for this “temporary legalization status” (TLS) is if the illegals being given the TLS do not have the same work equality as Citizens do and do not get the right to vote until they have become legal citizens.  What I mean is right now illegals are in hiding doing low skilled borderline minimu wage type jobs, but as soon as the TLS passes and they come out of the shadows, they are going to want to be given the same work equality as law-abiding Citizens.  And we know that they are not going to settle for thos low wage unskilled minimum wage jobs anymore.  And since this all about the almighty “Vote” in the pocket of Liberals, every Democrat in Congress will yell racism so as to garner the millions of new TLS voters!  That’s my main concern. 
    I yield the floor….

    • Conservative_Hippie

      I just want to add, that I still love Ted Cruz!

    • Keyes

      Conservative_Hippie 
      Why do you want these illegals to stay here? It will be the end of our nation if they are given legal status.

      • K-Bob

        Keyes Conservative_Hippie  
        Well, let’s be clear: it’s only the end if they get to continue chain migration, and if any of them or those they bring in under chain migration get to vote.  That’s the major point.

        I’d be fine with them being legal temporary workers like all other countries have.  My favorite example is Germany.  You can move to Germany, have kids who grow up to have more kids, etc., and generations later, they still won’t be “German.” They won’t be able to vote.
        (They modified this in 2000 to allow for a naturalization process, but the requirements are strict)

        Nobody bats an eye at Germany’s policy.  It plays a huge factor in helping to retain their culture, despite the fact that they have tons of muslims and other nationalities there.
        I like to say that we should tell the leftist idiots they get to pick any European country, and we’ll adopt that country’s immigration laws. Problem solved.

        • Keyes

          K-Bob Keyes Conservative_Hippie 
          If they are on our soil, they are voting. Dems allow it.
          Germany is not retaining their culture. muslims are taking over there as well. Read an article that there is one school that is mostly muslim now and native German kids are beat up all the time.

    • K-Bob

      Conservative_Hippie 
      Doug Ross is hilarious.  He’s calling it “http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/06/call-gang-of-eights-amnesty-bill-what.html”

  • wallwatchman

    I thought I had read awhile back, that loopholes in the bill, gave DHS the power to blow off all the things being promised! I can’t remember all of it, but I thought mark talked about it too. It gives napolitano a way to wiggle out of controlling the border, illegals paying fines and taxes, etc.
    How can republicans vote for this mess, trusting dems and this admin to do what is right?! Also, if their covered by obamacare, it’s more in the system and rewards for breaking the law. If their not covered, buisness will hire them over citizens since they don’t have to worry about healthcare. Either way, garbage! I love Ted Cruz, but I hope he’s not falling for something here.

  • Stehekin912

    Does anyone know where I can find a LIST of the members of Congress who are standing with Michele Bachmann, Louis Gomert and Steev King against the immigration bill?  I want to see if my representative is on the list or if I need to shoot him a letter posthaste

  • DebbyX

    They’ll be on a path to citizenship………..and the rest of us will be on the Highway to Hell!

  • trouble06

    They keep saying, bring them out of the shadows. WHAT SHADOWS? They are out in the open. Anybody here know of any in the shadows? I see them opening new businesses, going to the grocery stores, renting homes, buying homes, you see them in the SS office, going to school, to churches, all going about their daily lives. WHAT SHADOWS?

    • wyatt99

      trouble06 I was reminded of that when one appeared to lecture legislators a few months back about how mean they were and outlined just how much he deserved..

    • Tamikosmom

      trouble06
      What shadows?  Those who crossed the Mexican border illegally are empowered with entitlement compliments of Democrats and Republicans who advocate that they are privileged … that they are above the law.  There is no need to hide in the shadows.  That would imply that consequences are feared. 
      What Would You Do if 200 Illegals Mobbed Your House
      Jun 17 2013 // 3:03pm
      Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach is calling for a criminal investigation after a huge mob of illegal alien supporters surrounded his private home Saturday and held a rally on his front porch.
      At least 200 members of Sunflower Community Action were bused into Kobach’s Kansas City-area neighborhood on Saturday – to protest his staunch anti-illegal alien views.
      http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/17/todd-starnes-what-would-you-do-if-200-illegals-mobbed-your-house#ixzz2WWw9me8p

  • drderfc

    Folks, it’s time to climb the hill and get over a bunch of this ‘no amnesty’ poppycock. 

    There
    are two issues driving folks into our nation, with or without
    documentation — opportunity to work, opportunity for taxpayer freebies
    (Open Wallets, not Open Borders).   Sometimes these work/freebies are
    conflicted, but anyone whose seen how hard some immigrants work (above
    or below the table) know most (not all) are hard working honest folks.  

    The bulk of our illegal immigration problem is related to a
    the equivalent of having a 25 MPH speed limit on economic freeways
    designed to run at 70 MPH, or higher.   When honest hard working folks
    enter that highway, trying to hold the speed at 25 MPH is flat out
    silly.  Anyone want to raise their hand who didn’t speed when the
    Democrats set the Interstate speed limit to 55?  The immigration problem
    is about the same.  Work visas and legal immigration quotas have been
    misguidely set way too low for decades.  The predictable end result is
    lots of people are breaking that artificially low 25 MPH Interstate
    speed limit.  As much as pontificating politicians of one sort or
    another wish to legislate or regulate outside of common sense
    marketplace whims, the marketplace will win out — legally or not.  

    Honest
    hard working folks wishing to come into the US ought to be able to do
    so without years and years of waiting on a ‘list’.  If they come, and
    can’t find work, they also ought not to expect taxpayers to open their
    wallets and hand them freebies so they can hang out just about for ever,
    redirecting lots of their welfare out of the country, while they work
    along under the table…   Probably even voting, if someone looks the
    other way, and Lord knows thats been going on…   
    Screw the idea
    of a big border fence — that’s just so much of a red herring that it’s
    an embarrassment to red herrings. Close the taxpayer Open Wallets to
    freebies of any sort to immigrants (of any sort), eliminate chain
    migration to those on welfare, close the foreign baby loophole, offer
    reasonable work visas with an opportunity for citizenship based upon
    common sense good, open immigration rates to reasonable market based
    levels and move on.  The marketplace of common sense will take care of
    the rest.  Without spending billions on pork, and trillions on new welfare buying Ocrat votes with taxpayer Open Wallets.

    • K-Bob

      drderfc Looks like you have no clue what this issue is about.
      We don’t have an “immigration” problem, we have an illegal alien problem.  Everything you’re discussing has to do with the crapola excuses people give for “fixing immigration.”
      We’ll let them “fix” it after they secure the borders.

  • wodiej

    What did I say more than once? People were going gaga over Cruz without knowing much about him.  Gov. Sarah Palin is the real deal.  I question her intentions now that she has rejoined Fox news though.  But even on conservative blogs I don’t see widespread support for her.  What a shame.

    • JohnCraven

      I like Sarah Palin.
      I just wish she would make up her mind what she wants to do.
      She’ll likely never win the Republican nomination for president with “Tammy Faye” Boner running things unless she can’t mount a voter surge within the GOP to accomplish it.
      She could win a third party conservative nomination but without third party conservatives in Congress to back her up that would be tough.
      I think it would be a great  help if enough Congressmen got fed up with being in the GOP and formed a third conservative party within Congress prior to 2014 and then run a whole slate of candidates for election on such a third party ticket in 2016 including Sarah Palin for president.
      John Craven – New Orleans

  • John_Frank

    RS, thank you for this post.
    A couple of thoughts:
    – Merriam Webster defines the word amnesty as follows:
    “the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals”
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/amnesty
    – The purpose of Senator Cruz’s amendment may have been designed to bring illegal aliens ‘out of the shadows’ while making it clear that those who were granted temporary residency status would only be eligible for permanent residency status, but not citizenship, once certain criteria relating to border security and interior enforcement were satisfied. However, the granting of temporary residency status (a pardon for the act of either entering the country illegally or being in the country illegally) to a large number of illegal aliens is by definition amnesty.
    – Yes, there are similarities to the position taken in the Schumer-Rubio bill. Under this bill, the purpose of granting temporary residency status to illegal aliens is designed to bring “these individuals out of the shadows.” However, these individuals can ultimately become permanent residents and apply for citizenship irrespective of whether the border is secured or interior enforcement is in place. Furthermore, the granting of temporary residency status (a pardon for the act of either entering the country illegally or being in the country illegally) to a large number of illegal aliens is by definition amnesty.
    – Yes, Senator Cruz’s amendment would have improved the Schumer-Rubio bill. However, the problem remains. Even if the Senate Judiciary committee adopted Senator Cruz’s amendment we still end up granting amnesty before the southern border is secured and interior enforcement is in place.
    Based on what has taken place in the past, along with the stance of the present administration towards border security and interior enforcement, aliens will continue to enter the country illegally or overstay their visas.
    In turn, we will be faced with another push to grant another round of amnesty at some future point in time to this new group of illegal aliens.
    – Furthermore, if the Schumer-Rubio bill becomes law, either as is, with Senator Cruz’s amendment, (moot) or with Senator Cornyn’s amendment, (a realistic possibility) it is easy to foresee what will happen.
    Activists will start arguing that it is unfair to require those granted temporary residency status to have to wait up to 10 years, or potentially longer with the Cornyn amendment (which ties permanent residency and citizenship to border the being secured and interior enforcement being in place).
    One can easily see protesters shouting, “End the racism”, “Stop the discrimination”,  while waving placards shouting “Citizenship Now.”
    In turn, in an effort to appeal to the immigrant community, while ginning up their base to improve their electoral chances, Democrats will take up these cries, arguing the long wait period under the present law is not necessary, while wailing about the intolerable circumstances people have to live in, and calling opponents who support the present law racists and worse.
    – What should be the way forward?
    The Senate and House make it an immediate priority to secure the border and put in place the necessary measures to enhance interior security as called for under existing law.
    Once that is achieved, we can then talk about what to do with the huge number of illegal aliens presently in the country.
    However, until that happens and with all the amnesty talk, as the evidence shows, there has been a surge of illegal aliens into the country, and likely a surge of individuals overstaying their visas.
    To end this activity pass a law making it crystal clear that anyone who either enters the country illegally or overstays their visas after January 20, 2013 (being the date when this session of Congress started) will never be eligible for any form of amnesty.
    Unfortunately, given the present make up of the Senate and House, the likelihood of this course of action being taken is between slim and none.
    – What do we need to do?
    In the middle of this week Majority Leader Reid caused Senator Grassley’s amendment, that in essence said temporary residency permits (amnesty) would not be granted to eligible illegal aliens until six months after Congress (the House and Senate) was satisfied the border was secured, to be tabled.
    He did this with the support of all the Senate Democrats and the Four Republicans co-sponsors of the Schumer-Rubio bill.
    In turn, we need to do everything in our power to make sure Representatives and Senators know that the Schumer-Rubio bill, sometimes called the Amnesty Bill, or any version thereof, is completely unacceptable to us.
    Furthermore, we must make it clear that if they vote for such a bill, not only will we withdraw our political support, but if that individual stands for re-election, we will do everything in our power to ensure that person is defeated.
    Simply put, just as we raised h*ll over Obamacare, we need to raise h*ll over Rubiocare.
    P.S. To fully familiarize yourself with the problems with the Amnesty Bill, go to Senators Grassley and Sessions web pages and Facebook pages. Read their material. Listen to their speeches.