UPDATED: ROLL CALL VOTE ADDED – Senate debt-limit deal passes with strong RINO support: 81-18


FOX NEWS – The Senate voted Wednesday to advance a short-term bill to end the partial government shutdown and raise the debt ceiling, as House Republican leaders indicated they were ready to back down on their demands that the legislation rein in ObamaCare.

The bill cleared a vital test vote 83-16, virtually assuring it would clear the chamber on the final vote, which is underway next. It would go next to the House.

The bill, to the dismay of some conservatives, does not include any major provisions pertaining to the health care law. But, with the House a day earlier unable to muster support for an alternate GOP plan, bipartisan Senate negotiators pushed the new proposal Wednesday afternoon.

The text of the plan was released shortly before the Senate started the vote series. As the votes began, the White House released a statement saying the president would support the bill.

If the Senate and House approve the bill, it will go to President Obama for his signature — and put an end, for now, to the historic showdown that has kept the government partly shuttered for more than two weeks. Putting additional pressure on lawmakers to reach an agreement, Congress was facing a Thursday deadline to raise the debt ceiling.

Sources indicate that the bill could attract enough support on the House side.

It’s also being reported that $2 billion was added to the so-called ‘clean’ CR for the state of Kentucky, requested by Lamar Alexander, Dianne Feinstein, and Obama. The Blaze also points out that this is a project McConnell has championed in the past and some feel he has a lot to do with getting it in the now dirty CR. READ MORE HERE…

I’ll post the vote on this as soon as it is up.

UPDATE: And it’s up:

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs —81 
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Chiesa (R-NJ)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Manchin (D-WV)
Markey (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs —
Coburn (R-OK)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Heller (R-NV)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lee (R-UT)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
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  • Dave Wesley

    Boehner should do with this bill what Reid did with all of the House’s….

    • Rosalie

      Boehner? Are you serious?

    • Press Watchusa

      No time – Must get to the SALOON!

    • OneThinDime

      Boehner is not even invoking the Hastert Rule.

  • nexxe

    And Rand Paul is supporting McConnell’s re-election. What a shame. McConnell sold out the republic.

    • Press Watchusa

      McConnell-Reid Deal Includes $2 Billion Earmark for Kentucky Project…


      • deTocqueville1

        Of course we are not surprised. I hope people disregard Rand and even if the primary against McConnell is unsuccessful, folks vote against him and kick his sorry butt out.

        • Medaton

          A democrat may win that senate seat in KY… Too many in KY are for Ocare. Something has happened to that state.

  • Boardtrack Racer

    Americans = Pawns

    • Press Watchusa

      Pi$$ed off pawns

  • giveususfree

    My state’s 1st term rubber stamp Dem and faux Tea Party Repub contributed to the 81 I’m sure. Sorry everyone.

    • Rick2340

      The two pathetic Georgia senators are right there behind the two from your state.

  • Press Watchusa

    Anyone have a link listing who the traitors are?
    Lot’s of drunks tonight in DC

  • Judges718

    I don’t even need to look at the roll call. I know one of my Senators, Ted Cruz, voted no. But alas, I also know my other Senator, Phony Conservative, and Serpent Cornyn voted yes.

    Edit: I was wrong. Cornyn voted no. In the earlier cloture vote, he voted yes, but now in this vote he has changed to no. He must be feeling the heat from us constituents as he is up for re-election in 2014. He is not fooling me with this chicanery. When he voted for cloture to end Cruz’s filibuster, he surrendered, no matter how he voted for the final bill. As I said, Serpent.

    • deTocqueville1

      Yes he can now look ‘conservative’. The games, the games!

    • lonestar

      He voted No after it was assured passage. It’s his usual way.

      • Judges718

        Unfortunately you are correct. The man is a snake.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    Where are the Conservative fighters? Did almost all Republicans cave in….again? I’m getting more and more depressed with each passing day. This country is in the twilight of its greatness…thanks to the haters (Dims) on one side of the Aisle and the weak-willed losers on the other side (Republicans).

    • deTocqueville1

      They need to be turfed out wholessale as Levin and others advocate.

  • Laurel
    • Steve Angell

      Seriously vote for the Democrat. That is a more sane vote than voting for a RINO.

      A RINO gave Obama total power over future increases in the Debt ceiling.

      • OneThinDime

        That’s my plan. Best way to fire a RINO is to replace with a Democrat and wait 1 cycle to vote in Conservative.

        • Laurel

          Extremely ignorant. See above.

          It’s cutting one’s nose off to spite one’s face.

          • OneThinDime

            Disagree. When a RINO votes 100% with the Democrats there is no difference between them except for the lies. Best to fire them and go after the new Democrat in the next two -year election cycle. That gets the nasty GOP out of the way to provide for a conservative to surface.

            • Laurel

              Well you go right ahead with that circular logic and see how far that gets you. Good Luck getting that Democrat out once entrenched in since they do use their office to buy votes and cheat.

              Change will always come from within. Voting Democrat will not do a damn thing but get a Democrat elected and send the message to the GOP to ‘moderate’. Your Democrat vote coupled with other Democrat votes tells the GOP you like what the Democrat says and does. It is that simple. Take a look around you. Do you see the GOP going more conservative with the Tea Party? Or are they being marginalized and attacked from within? I know this logic comes from the rise of the Tea Party in response to Democrat Super Majority but that rise is weighed down and in serious danger of losing next election especially since it is being attacked by moderates.

              I have had this conversation on another thread already and I’m through with it. You guys go ahead and vote Democrat and see how that works out for you and don’t be surprised when your fellow Americans get ticked at you. We have lost a great many things under Obama that we will probably never get back such as standard of living for starters. I don’t understand adding to that list.

              • OneThinDime

                Actually what I see is the GOP assuming the have the base votes no matter what they do. The only way to stop them is to replace them. Glad you have luck replacing a RINO, we don’t. We aren’t TX. And from what I’ve read, Darrell Issa and the ENTIRE Oversight Committee and Goodlatte and the ENTIRE Judicial Committee are now pro-amnesty with Trey Gowdy leading the charge. How well did those “conservatives” elected in 2010 and 2012 really work out?

                • Laurel

                  How well did they work out? You tell me? Are they getting things done? bucking the system? Do you want to add to those Tea Party numbers or vote Democrat and insure their defeat?

                  Yes the GOP does assume that. It’s old school politics that used to work. That is why I said when forced to choose between bad and worse I will choose ‘none of the above’. You assumed that I would vote the party line incorrectly.

                  And what are you talking about ‘luck replacing a RINO’? My point is once any of them are in it is very difficult to get them out regardless of party. So voting in a Democrat one election cycle then getting them out the next isn’t reality. Heck Alan Grayson got voted out then right back in.

                  However there seems to be a few on here that agree with you. You guys start a movement and see what happens. Who knows it might work.

                • OneThinDime

                  And just what is the GOP getting done? They are pushing gov’t spending, higher debt, gave Obama the credit card to fund terrorist groups, some voted for Obama’s extreme cabinet appointees (Rand Paul for one), have been funding the Obamacare development and launch for years, have failed to file a lawsuit because a budget, required by law, has not been passed for 5 years, failed to file a lawsuit because immigration laws are not being enforced. They are the ones that took the oath of office I just have to pay the bill for what they are doing.

                  I’m not saying EVERYONE should vote Democrat. What I am saying is that it might well be effective in my district. I never assumed you would vote party line, I said the GOP makes the assumption Republicans will do so.

                  But then again with the GOP passing amnesty, the Democrat voters that will be added within months will negate everything anyway.

                • Laurel

                  Your last paragraph has a point. Amnesty will help entrench Democrats in office and partake at the trough.

                  I don’t know your district I just know that when people try the psychological tricks it never works. I know a lot of parents that do this with their children too.

                  What I think is a lot of people are ticked about last night’s vote and aren’t thinking clearly. They should be ticked! However I see a silver lining in all of it. The bulk of the Republicans did not vote with Boehner. He had to get it done with Democrats. 144 Republicans stuck to together. That is a majority of Republicans. We are making progress within in our conservative circles.

                • OneThinDime

                  I certainly understand all of your points. I’m not ticked, was not really surprised that Boehner and his cronnies caved, not surprised about NJ either.

                  I’ve been thinking about this strategy since 2012 when my RINO nearly lost to the Democrat. He’s had many bad votes which I won’t go into here and has embarrassed our district for decades. Notice I said “Democrat” not “Progressive”. Two can play the “I’ll run under the other party to win and vote with the other side.” game and this time it’s our turn.

                  Yes about the silver lining, however, those that voted no are largely the pro-amnesty team. So I think they strategized to cover one another saying vote no on obamacare and use that as your campaign point and distract from what you do with amnesty and vice versa. Boehner said there are enough votes for the Hastert Rule and the goal is to get anything into Committee to blame it on “we lost control because of Committee”. They ALL know Obama will ignore border security like he does today and run right to citizenship, union membership and voting rights.

                  It is sick that those elected in 2010 and 2012 are anxious to reward lawbreakers.

                • Laurel

                  I don’t know as there is any conspiracy to vote yes on amnesty so they tossed their vote on debt ceiling. What I do know is there are big campaign dollars involved with passing amnesty.

                  We need to find out who is giving those campaign dollars and turn the tables on them. Sunlight is a great disinfectant.

                • OneThinDime
                • Laurel

                  Thanks! Excellent links. I clipped them for later use!

                • OneThinDime

                  Here’s the one for the amnesty fly-in later in Oct. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/14/immigration-house-republicans/2961571/

                  and here is a list of 84! Compare those to the Nay voters, the Oversight Committee and Judiciary Committee members and you will see a trend. http://seeingredaz.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/house-gop-amnesty-sellouts-exposed-by-name/

                  and how they were doing it during the debt ceiling distraction.


                • Laurel

                  Take note of the very liberal use of the word and term ‘conservative’ in the USA Today aka McPaper. That is the left’s push to redefine conservative and push conservatives to the left.

                  The second article I have never seen and it is quite interesting but the third I knew about.

                  It doesn’t prove though that they do this on purpose to throw out a bone or two. what it proves is they are light in their conservative loafers and that reflects in their voting patterns. A more in depth look would have to be taken at what is in their districts, etc.

                  Regardless I think amnesty is coming down the pike due to the wave of money. Rule of law be damned.

                • OneThinDime

                  i agree with the medias predefining conservative and their use of “extreme”. Unfortunately the GOP is more focused on the minority pandering message and once again believe amnesty for the lawless (Reagan’s strategy) is in order. I’m not a big believer in coincidences. If you check some of these boys while running they were 100% against any form of amnesty (Jason Chaffetz is a good example) but race trumps all. Same with Labrador. The interesting one is Issa (voted for last night’s bill too) who just weeks ago was spewing on about Mexican drug runners flying into CA only to discover he’s another amnesty guy. If anyone should be for deportation it’s Issa given the bankruptcy and crime-ridden parts of CA.

                  As important, we have 50 million people on food stamps, hundreds of billions in tax credits are given to illegal aliens, money taken from citizens who are working, unemployment # is 23 million, 75% of new jobs are part-time and they scream for more foreign workers. Why? Because the foreign workers and illegal aliens are exempt from obamacare health insurance requirements, employer penalty which saves in upward of $10,000 or more for each one hired with an American fired.

                • Laurel

                  I don’t believe in too many coincidences either but the fact of the matter is there can be some.

                  I guarantee you the farmer’s and labor brokers in California got a hold of Issa. I will be calling his office because it makes his investigations look hypocritical. He appears to be for the rule fo law before he was against it.

                • OneThinDime

                  Ditto on Mr. Rule of Law Trey Gowdy. He is playing the Christian sympathy line.

                • Laurel

                  I agree. what I don’t get is how it escapes all of them that they totally undermine the rule of law for everyone. That is what is the foundation of any civilization. It also undermines our word to the world at large.

                  Uncle Sam might as well wear a ‘Kick Me’ sign on his back.

                • OneThinDime

                  Well it undermines the rule of law for citizens. If we worked for cash and did not pay taxes we’d be in prison. Not so with illegals. So what is the point of citizenship?

                • Laurel

                  Not just that…it undermines all rule of law. Crossing the border illegally is against the law. Identity theft among the numerous other crimes committed to stay is against the law. It’s selective enforcement but if you take a look at the politicians they also break the law and ignore it.

                • OneThinDime

                  I agree. I honed in the severe felony of tax evasion because of the sentence and the frequency that the IRS is sending Americans to prison for this while illegals get billions in tax credits to further reward their illegal behavior.

                • Laurel

                  To me it follows the same psychology as abortion. That callous disregard for life starts manifesting itself in other levels of life to a total disregard of the humanity around us to euthanasia.

                  Same goes for the law. We make excuses here and there for breaking the law and pretty soon we are no longer a nation of laws.

        • DarkKnight2016

          So give a Democrat 6 years before we get rid of them?

          • OneThinDime

            Not talking about a Senator, talking about a Rep. That’s 2 years last I heard but who knows, the GOP will probably change that too.

            When a RINO votes 100% with the Democrats, they are a Democrat and needs to be removed period.

      • Laurel

        Baloney. I will stay home and vote for neither. Not a chance that is one of the single most ridiculous strategy’s I have heard to date.

        Voting Democrat sends a message for GOP to moderate…as you can see that isn’t working so well.

        • Steve Angell

          When RINOs lose and Conservatives win that sends a message to be more Conservative. Voting against RINOs makes them lose.

          Although if there is no one to vote for I can understanding staying home.

          • Laurel

            If it is a choice between a Democrat and a RINO then as far as I’m concerned there is no one to vote for.

            Plus I live in California so everything gets taken to the Black Robed Bats anyway.

            • Steve Angell

              Yes I live in MD. I did not vote for Obama because he was going to win MD regardless.

              I did not vote for the other Democrat Mitt Romney either.

              Not worth going to the poll in some states. All the Democrats vote multiple times or at least vote for every registered Democrat that does not show up at the poll. Now they are even closing polling places in Conservative districts.

              • Laurel

                Yeah in some ways MD is worse than California. My daughter lives there.

  • Stewie

    Did this originate in the Senate? I thought that was unconstitutional….oh, wait…..lol @ the Constitution.

  • demographicallychallenged

    If this passes the house, someone give the link to the bill that shows all the pork that has been added to get votes.

  • deTocqueville1

    Looks like some who didn’t support Cruz and Lee changed for ‘whatever reason’. Precisely why it doesn’t matter what the party designation is after the name. They are progressive cronyists and should be voted out one way or another. Time for a completely different appraoch with no more tired rationalizing.

    • Freedomswatch

      Yes. I believe Cornyn was “allowed” to vote no because they had plenty of yes votes , but he was whipping the senate against original cloture and against Cruz. Cornyn needs to go. (Maybe Michael Williams could primary him?)

      • Judges718

        I would love to see Michael Williams enter the race. He would defeat Cornyn handily, but he may fear the backlash of the GOPe.

        Cornyn is the #2 Republican in the Senate, and as a consequence is very powerful in the GOPe ranks.

        Cornyn will attempt to destroy anyone who challenges him, by any means necessary, all with the financial backing of the GOPe. Consequentially, he may not have a serious challenger.

        • lonestar

          Right now, I like him where he is. Cleaning up the TEA.

      • lonestar

        Too bad Dewhurst doesn’t challenge him. It would be great entertainment.

      • Kiyoti

        ~~ Cornyn only doin CYA vote !!!

  • Rosalie

    I went on a news fast for a about four days. I think I’m going back. This is absolutely disgusting. Is there any real hope?

    • Poptoy1949

      Ya got a good point. Ain’t looking too good for the home team…..but we ain’t gonna give up.

  • FreeManWalking

    Arkansas has a Rino and a Democrat Senator. The demoncrat didn’t surprise me with his vote. The Republican showed his HIDE, now he can SEEK his vote elsewhere.
    One of our freshman reps is running against the incumbent demoncrat senator, I will be investigating to see which side of the line he stands on before I cast a vote, Cruz=Yea, or Grahamsty=Nay.

    If this wasn’t the time to stand the ground and fight, there never will be.

  • Cliff E.

    Start Recall efforts on all of the R’s on that Yea list… hoist those on the Yea list as heroes, but not enough they could have filibustered this pile of fecal matter.

  • ApplePie101

    It was a good shutdown while it lasted. Let’s do it again soon.

    • OneThinDime

      Not likely. The Senate bill has 2/3 requirement to oppose Obama unilaterally raising the debt ceiling. Say bye-bye to Congress.

  • Ed Dillon

    Casey is done in PA

    • Medaton

      I wouldn’t bet on it!

  • Felicia

    At least the people in AL have some common fuckin sense. That idiot Hagan is done for NC anyway.

  • aposematic

    Almost identical to the original Senate cloture vote that got this ball rolling. Looks like the D’s have a pretty consistent 80 votes with the RINO’s whenever they want to raise the debt ceiling, fund ObumaNOcare, give Illegals Amnesty and just about anything else Reid wants.

  • Sentinel

    Well, it’s now VERY clear who needs to be voted out. They stabbed us in the back with their previous cloture votes and now they’ve twisted the blade. I can’t wait to kick these traitors out. Idiots… too stupid to be in office.

  • Kimber1911

    My hope is that everyone of these RINOS are recalled, and if not recalled My hope is that they all are removed from office.

  • debbiehayesmashburn

    Both our GA boys MUST GO!!!!!!!

    • twolaneflash

      Spineless RINOs both. I emailed Chambliss and Isakson and let them know how little I think of them. I did ask if they ever think about that oath they swore. I know they don’t; their actions speak for them.

    • Freedomswatch

      Chambliss is retiring. He knew he would be primaried so you can pencil him in as a D vote from now till he leaves.

  • curlylouis19

    so happy to see the senator from my home state of Louisiana, David Vitter voted against it. Disappointed but not surprised to see BOTH senators from the state I live in now, Tennessee, Corker and Alexander vote for it. Count me in for Operation RemoveLamarAlexander next year.

    • Poptoy1949

      Pray hard for us still here in Louisiana that Proud Mary goes down in defeat next year.

  • tree worm

    sometimes you have to fight fire with fire, that is exactaly what obama wanted was to divide he got it we need some of these gop to win seanate 2014 then after we do that we can recall them lets get the senate 1st

  • Poptoy1949

    Pray tell at least we have 18 Senators that are worth their SALT. My Republican Senator was among them and for that I am thankful. Now the other 81 of them can go straight to hell. This does include Mitch from Kentucky with his new $3 Billion Dam Project during an upcoming election season. Damn Mitch just how delicate can you get?

    • tinlizzieowner

      Bingo. if you want to see where the votes went, follow the ‘pork’ in the fine print at the bottom.

      • OneThinDime

        KY and CO

        • tinlizzieowner

          This whole thing has been a lot like the last trip of the Titanic.
          There’s a little piece of ice sticking up out of the water ahead but there’s a whole lot more ice under the water, we can’t see. 🙁

    • Dr. Strangelove

      A new dam? How’d he get that past the econazis?

      • Poptoy1949

        Ya got me? But he did. It will bring work for the people of Kentucky and that is a good thing. But selling out the rest of the U.S. is not so good. So, in my opinion, Mitch has got to go. He is officially a Rino now.

        • OneThinDime

          Will it really bring work to the people of Kentucky or will Mitch and Rand’s amnestied illegal aliens get the work as new union members at lower wages than American citizens.

        • Dr. Strangelove

          Rather surprising considering 0’s war on energy. Dams, nuke plants, coal. etc. are all on the endangered species list while the regime subsidises useless wind and solar farms that are now blighting the landscape all over the country- except where the progs live.

          • Poptoy1949

            Good point ! .

            • Dr. Strangelove


  • finnegan

    Guaranteed if the Republicans were the majority in the Senate, or had the Presidency, then all of those 27 (?) who voted YEA who instead vote NEA. They just go with the flow to keep their cushy appointments.

  • Jenn

    Both Nebraska Senators…SMH…disgrace!

    • OneThinDime

      All the while Deb Fisher has been touting conservatism. Seems clear, they all lie.

      • Cheryl Anderson

        Deb Fisher was a Tea Party candidate. Apparently the move to DC castrated her….oh, that’s right….she always lacked cajones. How easily they forget who voted them into office. I like to see people who are unafraid to stand against the tide. Girls, how about a little backbone? Didn’t Ted Turner say we should elect only females to office for a few decades? What was he thinking?

        • OneThinDime

          The Kentucky Kickback reminds me of the Cornhusker Kickback :{

  • Debi Desmond

    As usual…the New Jersey Senators are castrated wimps interested only in themselves and their own benefits

  • gary t

    Please accept your loss gracefully. The whole thing started because you could not, and now you are left looking like idiots. Wait and see what the mainstream republicans do to you Tea Partiers for almost destroying them.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      We’ll fight to the end. Once the sheeple get a real whiff of 0care there will be a popular uprising at the ballot box.

    • HCTUB

      Timothy , time to get back in the gutter with your friends . We accept the loss , but will you when the time comes .

    • Cheryl Anderson

      Mainstream Republicans? Aren’t they just Democrats with elephant ears? Yeah, pretty much.

    • OneThinDime

      Remember your post when you seek medical care only to be told that ObamaCare patients are not being accepted.

    • ApplePie101

      For example…?

    • Cheryl Anderson

      The Tea Party gave Republicans the House of Representatives in 2010. Had it not been for that popular grassroots movement, it would still be one party rule in Washington. GOP is forgetting that. Consider that 3 million of the base sat home last election. Had the GOP not ignored them, we’d have a Republican president because Barry garnered fewer votes this election than MCCAIN garnered in the last election. Let the GOP jettison the Tea Party…Tea Party needs to hook up with the Libertarian Party and kick a–…..

  • Jim

    Alexander (R-TN), Ayotte (R-NH), Barrasso (R-WY), Blunt (R-MO), Boozman (R-AR), Burr (R-NC), Chambliss (R-GA), Chiesa (R-NJ), Coats (R-IN), Cochran (R-MS), Collins (R-ME), Corker (R-TN), Fischer (R-NE), Flake (R-AZ), Graham (R-SC), Hatch (R-UT), Hoeven (R-ND), Isakson (R-GA), Johanns (R-NE), Kirk (R-IL), McCain (R-AZ), McConnell (R-KY), Moran (R-KS), Murkowski (R-AK), Portman (R-OH), Thune (R-SD), Wicker (R-MS): Shame on you all? How dare you?!!! Unless one of you comes up with a strategy to fight Obamacare and get rid of it once and for all, you deserve to primaried. The law is a menace, and not only did you not fight, you attacked those who were fighting.
    Ladies and gentlemen, if your state is listed, they all broke their promise. They have demonstrated they want Obamacare. Fire them!! Especially McConnell and McCain. Vote them out in the primary.

    • OneThinDime

      Unfortunately not all states have primaries and the GOP is very powerful in protecting their Democrat/RINOs

    • InfoDump

      No excuses for them or from them. Screw parliamentary procedures or the “rules”, which aren’t law anyway. To hell with “it’s a battle we can’t win” cowardice. Drop the “let it get crushed under it’s own weight” BS (talking about the UnAffordable Carelessness Act)… that’s just a spineless reply to me. The time for civility is over.

  • InfoDump

    I see some of the so-called “Tea Party Conservatives” (RINO operatives) who actually lied about their conservative leanings just to get voted into office, got what they wanted.

    • kong1967

      A lot of them completely lie while others just shift somewhat during the elections. During the primaries they are more conservative than when they make it to the general election where they move towards the center.

      It disgusts me how the game is played. Just be yourself, and I don’t want to see any shifting of ideology from one election to another or after they take office. For most of them it’s not about serving the country and telling us the truth. It’s about manipulating us so they can stay in power.

  • Somebody get a broom–we have a lot of house cleaning to do!

    • arcsinice

      Not a broom.

      • kong1967

        How about an industrial sized super powered vacuum cleaner?

        • ApplePie101

          I prefer arcsinice’s idea.

  • POTUS mime

    Please, Arizona and South Carolina: can we be done with Lindsay Graham and John “Maverick” McCain already? PLEEEZ? And while you’re at it…let’s be done with Dicky Durbin, Harry Reid and Chuckie Schumer….one can dream.

    • kong1967

      Didn’t McCain just win another six year term? I’ll never understand why they voted him back in. Thankfully, though, I heard he’s not running again. He might be shopping for his casket by the time he retires.

      • Cheryl Anderson

        He won reelection in 2010 by calling in a marker from Sarah Palin. She went around Arizona touting him as a great conservative to unseat the efforts of a tea party candidate.

        • OneThinDime

          I have yet to see her denounce what McCain is doing and saying about conservatives.

        • kong1967

          Palin has been probably the biggest supporter and mouthpiece for the Tea Party movement, so it’s not really fair to blame it all on her.

          • Cheryl Anderson

            He needed to undercut the Tea Party candidate running against him in the primary. By calling in a marker on Sarah Palin, he effectively neutralized the TP candidate. She is responsible for that because of her name recognition in the TP. I admire many aspects of Ms. Palin, but loyalty should never engender subterfuge or misrepresentation, and her actions significantly assisted his reelection.

            • kong1967

              What do you mean by “calling in a marker”? Palin supports Tea Party candidates very heavily, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to that would make her back McCain instead of a Tea Party candidate. I find it hard to believe she would do that. Are you talking about using past clips instead of current endorsements?

              • Cheryl Anderson

                During the 2010 election, Sarah Palin endorsed and campaigned with John McCain in Arizona. He was running in the primary against a conservative and was in trouble because people didn’t much consider him a conservative (imagine that). She helped him get reelected to the Senate because she went around Arizona with him praising him as a conservative. Now, if you know anything about John McCain’s record, you will admit that he is no conservative, and has never been a conservative. He called in a marker in the sense that he played on her gratitude for being chosen as his running mate and used her conservative credentials to get himself reelected. She can’t have been confused about what she was doing and why she was with him in Arizona. This is fact. As I said, there are many things to admire in Sarah Palin, but what she pulled with McCain in 2010 is not one of them.

                • kong1967

                  I can’t really respond to that because I don’t really know what was going on. I know she has made multiple comments taking shots at McCain for his recent stands against the Tea Party, so I’m pretty sure she doesn’t endorse McCain.

                • Cheryl Anderson

                  Guess not any more, but he doesn’t need her endorsements any longer. He’s not running again. He’s there in Washington today because she helped him return there. I imagine she feels badly about it, but that does nothing to change the fact that he is up there acting like Barry’s twin and working against conservatives in Congress. He even, these days, sounds like Barry, with all his venomous comments…I twittered (tweeted) him and asked him if he were Barry’s twin separated at birth because I couldn’t distinguish between the two of them any more. And Sarah Palin has some responsibility in the matter, that’s all I am saying.

                • kong1967

                  I see what you are saying, but haven’t we all backed candidates then regretted it later? We can never predict the future and what truly lies within someone’s mind. I once supported Christie but he has turned on us. Had I known, I wouldn’t have ever liked him. At least I couldn’t vote for him so I’m not guilty of that.

                  What matters is how you act when “your guy” goes south. If you discontinue your support then all’s well. We just have to try to pick people that won’t turn traitor, but that’s hard to do. When they turn, kick them out the door.

                • Cheryl Anderson

                  Yeah, cool. You are right. I actually voted for Jimmy Carter (blush, blush, blush), and as a low wage earner at the time, I really got my teeth kicked down my throat. So, I know we all make mistakes. I’m just saying Sarah Palin knew McCain’s politics BEFORE she campaigned for him. His record has been established for years and years…no surprise there…he was known to cross the aisle on a regular basis trying to grow government and open the doors to illegals, etc. She may be sorry now, and I hope she is, but she was game at the time and we are all paying for it.

                • kong1967

                  I don’t know why Palin backed McCain. Maybe because he put her on the ticket, I don’t know. I just have too much respect for her to kick her for it. She does a great job in supporting Tea Party candidates and a great job for the Tea Party by holding rallies and gathering support.

                  I’m not saying you’re wrong about McCain, though. He may have been a war hero, but as a politician he’s an elitist moderate that thinks he’s above us all.

                • Cheryl Anderson

                  I, too, respect and esteem McCain for his military service. I do not esteem his political service. I couldn’t support him when he ran for president until Palin joined the ticket. I didn’t support him when he starting distancing himself from Palin during the campaign because the press attacked her so viciously. I saw then that the backbone he had when he was in the military had not followed him into the political sphere. I think he put Palin, a woman, on his ticket to counter the appeal of a minority candidate, and was stunned to see how she was destroyed by the press. She really got hung out there for target practice. I respected that she stood up to those assaults. I think she is a strong person who deserves respect. I do not, however, think she deserves consideration for high political office because of she dumped her principles to back McCain and because she quit the governorship before her term was up. Had either one of those circumstances been different (had she not backed McCain OR not resigned her governorship), I may think differently.

                • kong1967

                  McCain chose her to get stronger conservatives (the Tea Party type) on board and because of her gender. He consistently showed he did not respect her. He wouldn’t let her be interviewed by conservative hosts and he threw her to the wolves in the left wing media. She outshined him and I believe he wanted to destroy her. He didn’t like people saying she should be on the top of the ticket.

                  You do realize why Palin quit the Governor position in Alaska, right? They don’t have protections against frivolous lawsuits and she had to pay for her defense out of her own pocket. She was being sued over what jacket or baseball cap she wore. The left was doing it on purpose to keep her from doing her job. Her legal bills were so high it was costing more money to defend herself against frivolous lawsuits than she even made and she was constantly in the courtrooms and couldn’t do her job. It didn’t happen until she got on the Presidential ticket,and before that she had an approval rating in the mid 80% range among Republicans and Democrats alike in Alaska. She stepped down so someone else could do the job effectively because the constant lawsuits made it impossible to do her job.

      • Clayton Scott

        McCains Term is up in 2017, I believe that most fromAZ have had eno8ugh of dear John. They are dissatisfied with his latest shenanigans.

        • kong1967

          I didn’t have much to begin with, but I lost all respect for him when he stood there laughing in the face of a woman from Syria pleading and pouring her heart out for her family in Syria. That expressed exactly how he views himself. Not as one of us, but rather a ruler of us.

        • OneThinDime

          If that’s the case, and I don’t doubt you, why aren’t they working on that recall?

    • OneThinDime

      South Carolina permits Democrats to vote for Republican candidates. Might explain by the Democrat Graham keeps getting re-elected.

  • DarkKnight2016

    This is going to be long:

    The Yeas List: Up for Re-Election in 2014:

    1. Lamar Alexander (R-Tennessee):
    Primary challenger is State Rep. Joe Carr: http://www.carrfortn.com/

    2. Max Baucus (D-Montana), retiring

    Republicans Candidates are
    State Rep. Champ Edmunds:
    And U.S. Rep. Steve Daines (R) is expected to be entering the race.

    3. Mark Begich (D-Alaska)

    Republican Candidates are
    Joe Miller
    Mead Treadwell
    Dan Sullivan

    4. Saxby Chambliss (R-Georgia), retiring

    GOP Primary Candidates are
    Jack Kingston
    Phil Gingrey
    Paul Broun (Ron Paul Endorsed)
    Karen Handel (Sarah Palin Endorsed her for Governor in 2010)
    David Perdue

    5. Thad Cochran (R-Mississippi)

    Sen. Cochran hasn’t announced if he will run for re-election or retire. No other person has declared a run.

    6. Susan Collins (R-Maine)

    Sen. Collins is currently the only candidate on the Republican side.

    7. Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)

    The Republican candidate is businessman Doug Truax: http://dougtruax.com/

    8. Al Franken (D-Minnesota)

    The Republican candidates are
    Julianne Ortman
    Mike McFadden

    9. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina)

    The Primary Challengers are
    Lee Bright
    Nancy Mace
    Richard Cash

    10. Kay Hagan (D-North Carolina)

    The Republican Candidates are
    Dr. Greg Brannon
    Heather Grant
    Mark Harris
    Thom Tillis

    11. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), retiring

    The Republican Candidates are
    Matt Whitaker
    Sam Clovis
    David Young
    Jodi Ernst
    Scott Schaben

    12. Mike Johanns (R-Nebraska), retiring

    The Primary Candidates are
    Shane Osborn
    Bart McLeay
    Ben Sasse
    Sid Dinsdale

    13. Tim Johnson (D-South Dakota), retiring

    The Republican Candidates are
    Mike Rounds
    Larry Rhoden
    Annette Bosworth
    Stace Nelson

    14. Mary Landrieu (D-Louisiana)

    The Republican Candidates are
    Bill Cassidy
    Rob Maness

    15. Carl Levin (D-Michigan), retiring

    The only Republican candidate is former Michigan Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land.

    16. Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky)

    The Primary Challenger is Matt Bevin: https://mattbevin.com/

    17. Jeff Merkley (D-Oregon)

    The Republican Candidate is Jo Rae Perkins: http://www.perkinsforussenate.com/

    18. Mark Pryor (D-Arkansas)

    The Republican Candidate is Tom Cotton: https://www.tomcotton.com/

    19. Jay Rockefeller (D-West Virginia)

    The Republican Candidates are
    Shelley Moore Capito
    Pat McGeehan

    20. Jeanne Shaheen (D-New Hampshire)

    The Republican Candidates are
    Jim Rubens
    Karen Testerman (exploring)

    21. Mark Udall (D-Colorado)

    The Republican Candidates are
    Ken Buck
    Owen Hill (Ron Paul Endorsed)
    Randy Baumgardner
    Jaime McMillan
    Any Stephens

    • Judges718

      Don’t leave out Cornyn of Texas. His CYA vote is more despicable than that of the fore mentioned RINOS. He votes for cloture to shutdown Cruz’s filibusterer, and then does a 180 and votes against the continuing resolution only after knowing he was sure the continuing resolution would pass. He is a snake and deceitful arsehole.

      • DarkKnight2016

        Actually it wasn’t officially a filibuster. Sen. Cruz wasn’t trying to delay any action on legislation. He (Cruz) made a deal with Harry Reid that he would be able to speak for as long as he wanted up until it was time for the vote. They actually told him he could have one more hour but he decided to end it at 21 hours. The vote after that was not cloture as some in the media wanted to think, it was a vote to bring what was the House bill that defunded Obamacare to the floor of the Senate for debate and amendments. Also I currently do not see any serious candidate against Cornyn. Perhaps conservatives should start trying to recruit someone.

        • OneThinDime

          Glenn Beck is trying to convince Louie Gohmert to run against Cornyn

          • Cheryl Anderson

            Shoot, Rick Perry is leaving the governorship, and I don’t think he has the general appeal that Cruz has, so why not get him to run for the senate seat. I like Louie, but I don’t think he is going to take Cornyn on because Cornyn has magnificent machine which is already operating. The only one I think could jump in and snatch the seat from him now is Perry. He has angered some Texans, but Perry is strong on the 10th Amendment, and strong on shrinking government, and I think he would be a plus in the Senate.

            • OneThinDime

              That’s a good alternative and would leave Louie in the House to continue to kick Boehner as he bends over….Email Beck and propose it.

              • Cheryl Anderson

                If you are on Beck’s email list, give him a holler. I know Michael Berry is trying to get Louie to run…I’ll tackle trying to reach Michael because I do email his facebook and web. I think Perry has been eying the presidency but I think he’s not much of a contender after his last showing. People were really disappointed in his debates. If he got to the Senate, he could practice up on those skills and with all his strong stands he’d be in the news as much as Sen. Cruz. Good fighter. I’ll email Michael Berry.

                • OneThinDime

                  Good idea, will contact Beck, on his email list.

                • Cheryl Anderson

                  I wrote Michael Berry, and I think I will write Rick Perry. I’m a nobody from nowhere, but maybe it would be good for him to hear from an average person BEGGING him to run….

      • Cheryl Anderson

        Cornyn is one person I cannot support: his disgraceful comments about Ted Cruz and his attempt to undercut conservatives lost my vote and my donations. He knows he is in trouble in Texas for his duplicity and for his attacks on Cruz–he is already running campaign ads for next year, telling everyone what a great conservative he is.

  • spin43

    Notice Enzi voting in a conservative fashion since Lynn Cheney announced she was going to challenge him in 2014. Also, Grassley, who supported the fraudulent Pigford Reparations and continues to want more money for ethanol subsidies, is pretending to be conservative. they understand the ignorance of Americans.

    • OneThinDime

      Not so sure Cheney is much different. Her father is HUGE into amnesty.

  • spin43

    I have given up on these RINO’s. Will vote 3rd party unless the candidate is truly conservative.

    • kong1967

      I usually argue against doing that because it helps the communist Democrats, but I just can’t see a reason to do that any more. Republicans need to earn people’s votes instead of taking for granted we have no other alternative that’s conservative.

      • Cheryl Anderson

        I agree. I keep getting roped into voting for the “electable” Republican, all the while holding my nose. I keep funding their fights to unseat Democrats. I am divorcing the Republican party. I will support Conservatives–regardless of party, will support the 18 senators who voted with the American people, and will definitely support and donate to any conservative who enters a primary against one of the RHINOs. I will not vote for another RHINO–they can save the “electable” drivel for the gullible.

        • kong1967

          I’m not going to take it out on innocent candidates that might be considered RINO’s, but I will on the RINO’s in office that have already backstabbed us and given away the farm. I guess Reagan was considered to be a RINO in the beginning, but he didn’t govern that way. I will still vote for a moderate if he’s the only conservative option and he’s new, but I will not vote for someone who has already stabbed us in the back repeatedly.

          • Cheryl Anderson

            The GOP has offered us Dole, Bush, McCain and Romney as moderate candidates, and I think you can see the win column is pretty slim. I admire Bush’s fortitude facing the terrorist action against us, and I admire his courage of convictions, but I do also recognize that his capitulation to Dems and moderate stances on general matters started the fiscal wrecking ball working against the American people. Once Reagan hit the national stage he always espoused his conservative principles, that is why the RHINOS (I know it is rino, but I like rhino as I really do picture them as a lumbering dim-witted animals with a huge horn ready to charge us and ram the horn up our ….oops) worked hard to try to keep him out of the national government. I will not support another moderate. I have been voting in elections for 37 years, and never thought to sit an election out, but I will not place my imprimatur on another rhino who will end up charging me with his horn….

            • kong1967

              Lol, I thought about mentioning how you’re calling them RHINO’s, but I didn’t because I didn’t want to appear like I was trying to preach to you about proper English. Now I know….thanks.

              I understand your position, but I look at it differently. It’s much easier to pull a moderate to vote on our side than it is a wacked out far left liberal. There are a lot of moderate voters in our party and that’s who the GOP is catering to.

              But, like I said, I used to argue against and criticize your position but I cannot do that any more. Your position is well justified.

              • Cheryl Anderson

                Thank you for not criticizing my use of “RHINO”. I can’t help it–I just get that picture in my head and my fingers type the H. I figure everyone who sees my comments with my misspelling prominent in them must think I am a closet Democrat (haha), but I am not losing sleep over that. There are too many serious issues facing our nation for me to lose sleep over the thought that people may be having a laugh at my expense.

                • kong1967

                  There are people that don’t know what RINO actually stands for. I was glad to see that you aren’t one of them, lol.

                • Cheryl Anderson

                  Oh yeah, I know. Actually instead of picturing rhinos, which is a reflexive thing for me, I should conjure up, instead, the picture of an ass (donkey) with elephant ears…that would work also!

                • kong1967

                  Yes it would. 🙂

        • Steve Angell

          “they can save the “electable” drivel for the gullible.”


  • kong1967

    McConnell sold us out for a Kentucky deal. He got his, so screw everyone else.

    • DarkKnight2016

      There is an answer to that:

      Matt Bevin for U.S. Senate in Kentucky

      • OneThinDime

        The press and Obama are already covering for McConnell and his Kentucky Kickback saying it was Obama that wanted that included.

        Thanks for the link.

        • Cheryl Anderson

          Sure, Obama is always generous with Republicans….right…if I remember correctly Obama didn’t want to negotiate and Harry stood in his place. The thing I find almost as offensive as what they are doing to us is that they believe we lack intellect and understanding, that they can say anything and we WILL believe ANYTHING.

          • OneThinDime

            The GOP assumes the base will vote for them no matter what they do. Lessons will be learned in 2014 IF we are given the opportunity to vote.

            • Cheryl Anderson

              Well, that was pretty true until 2012. Many people sat home who voted in 2008 and in 2010. You’d think that would be a message to the GOP, but instead of realizing 3 million voters sat out because they felt left out, they decided they needed to reach out to illegals and women. Talk about clueless. Instead of “the lesser of two evils”, I’m going to start feeling good about my votes, or I’m not voting at all.

      • kong1967

        Yes sir.

  • Cheryl Anderson

    Protect and encourage the 18 who voted with the people to stop the madness; throw the other bums out! I sent a check to Bevin–McConnell needs to retire.

  • rappini pasta

    Dan Coats from Indy didn’t last long we’re going to have to send him back home.

  • Clayton Scott

    I sent this letter to My Congressmen and Senators leaders. Feel free to cpy paste and send to yours.

    Date: 10/17/2013

    Dear Senator/Congress man.

    I want to express my opinion and believe me I do not feel
    alone here.

    We are deeply concerned with the direction this country is
    now headed in.

    is through the roof. The raising of
    the Debt ceiling is bringing this nation down. Our children, your children and future
    Grandchildren cannot pay this debt off, which only allows for other
    nations to step in and take over.

    is still up, as people are still out of work and the potential for new
    jobs is still be threatened by the
    affordable care Act. And the potential passage of the amnesty bill.

    Our Constitution
    is under direct attack. The current Administration has made a mockery of
    the constitution.

    First Amendment

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
    prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
    of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
    the Government for a redress of grievances

    While you as members of Congress
    have not specifically made laws, you have allowed laws to go through which is
    in violation of the amendment. The
    allowance of NSA to follow us on the internet, social site, and emails is an
    infringement of freedom of the press.

    The shutting down of National
    Monuments during the recent debt negotiations by Our president is an
    infringement on our rights to peacefully assemble.,

    The Order requiring our Military
    Priests to cease all masses and denieying mass during the Shut sown is in
    violation of our freedom of Religion.

    Second Amendment

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of
    the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The second amendment has been and
    still is jeopardized by congress’s attempt to Place additional restrictions on
    Gun owners.

    Fourth amendment

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
    and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
    and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or
    affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
    persons or things to be seized.

    This amendment is now in jeopardy
    due to the Passage of the ACA, which now allows the Government direct access to
    Medical, Financial, and personal records of the general population, not to
    mention penalties for failure to comply.

    Lastly, You have each been placed
    in a position of trust, this trust was awarded to you by your constituents. Because you were awarded this trust, you have
    a responsibility to the American People to Protect and Defend the Constitution
    of the United States.

    A President, any President who
    would even consider, closing National Parks and monuments, hold up Veterans
    Benefits and threaten senior citizens, threaten religions with no Mass, is not
    a man/woman we want in power in this country.

    Additionally, any Politician who
    passes an act/ law/resolution that excludes themselves, should be terminated
    from their service, due to a breach of a fiduciary relationship. I believe that
    you will see this in the coming elections.

    If it is not good for our leaders then it
    is not good for the people.

    The new attempt to allow immigration is not of the best
    interest of this country either.

    1 allowing new immigrants in only
    creates more people who cannot find jobs

    2. Creates more welfare

    3. Creates more expense to our,
    already, over burdened budget

    4. Creates a greater security
    threat to this nation

    If it is not
    good for our leaders then it is not good for the people.

    This is
    conversely true.

    If it is not
    good for our people then it is not good for our leaders.


    Name: Clayton D.



  • DebbyX

    Those nays are disappointing in number!

  • Josh

    I can see Moran is a moron. Time to get an new KS Senator. At least Roberts did his duty. Ugh.