By The Right Scoop


I think Edward Snowden has forgotten he’s broken the law and is now a fugitive. I mean, what did he think would happen when he began leaking our secrets? Did he think America would just let him fly all over the place looking for a country that would grant him asylum? If he did he’s a bigger idiot that I thought.

Read his Wikileaks statement from Moscow below, via Tatler:

One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety were under threat from my government for revealing the truth. My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family, and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be thankful.

On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit any diplomatic “wheeling and dealing” over my case. Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the President ordered his Vice President to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions.

This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.

For decades the United States of America have been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum.

In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.

I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many.

Edward Joseph Snowden

Monday 1st July 2013

The news is today that he’s applying for asylum in Russia because he really doesn’t have anywhere else to go because his passport has been revoked. Well, he could always come home and face down what he’s done. But I guess his hero complex won’t let him do that yet.

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  • DarkKnight2016

    I hope no one takes this the wrong way but I think that if he doesn’t come back to the U.S. to face consequences, he may end up with a bullet in the back of his head.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

      DarkKnight2016 I seriously doubt that. If he doesn’t come back he’ll just have to live out his existence in exile.

      • DarkKnight2016

        therightscoop DarkKnight2016 Normally that is what people who are in exile do but there is no telling how much more information he has or if he has given information to the Chinese and/or Russians. Some could suggest that because Putin said that the only way Snowden would receive asylum is if he stopped leaking information Snowden would then stop. However, Snowden has a contingency plan which I believe he gave all of his information to Glen Greenwald (Anti-American) and WikiLeaks (Anti-American). When this whole thing came out I has said someone was going to shoot him, and what I am saying was also expressed by the other side via Bob Beckel, who himself is a former State Department official.

    • WordsFailMe

      DarkKnight2016 If this administration is involved, and I have no way of knowing the future, Snowden can count on getting it in the back,

      • NYGino

        WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016    How old was Andrew?

        • DarkKnight2016

          NYGino WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016 Breitbart? I believe he was 43.

        • Orangeone

          NYGino WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016 The Buzz Feed reporter that was on to something was 33. Mysterious “accident” in a Mercedes????

        • debrabond12

          Orangeone NYGino WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016 witness said car on fire before impact?

        • WordsFailMe

          NYGino WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016  Their are 2 events that cause my breath to stop: The death of those SEALs and others in Afghanistan, the bowels of Asia Minor, and the moment I heard that Andrew would never laugh again.

        • CassieCarter

          Orangeone NYGino WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016 
          Orangatang girl, “Michael Hastings”, who you disrespect by calling him generically “the reporter” worked for Rolling Stone, not the libtard rag Buzzfeed but if you were a TRUE constitution believing patriot, instead of a NEOCON idiot you would know that but you only listen to Scoop and Saudi News, Faux News.
          I can hardly wait until the PATRIOTS take this country back and you NEOCONS will be thrown into the dustbin heap of history as traitors, not against your stupid party but traitors against the constitution.
          Well, that is only if GOD has mercy on this country again and protects her.  It doesn’t look like GOD is going to bless this nation as it is Babylon…..

      • stage9

        WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016 Knowing this administration he’d get it just a little lower than his back.

      • Rshill7

        WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016 
        Deservedly?

        • Rshill7

          WordsFailMe DarkKnight2016  
          I contend that any candidate that the Republicans put up, would split the votes of Democrats and Republicans, and Conservatives would vote for the Freedom Party or something similar.

    • debrabond12

      DarkKnight2016 I doubt they (govt) want to eliminate him due to him having encrypted files that are to be released in case of his demise. They are probably losing sleep wondering what else he knows.

  • WordsFailMe

    Get out! Get out! Get OUT!

  • Susanb958

    Heh, the underwear guy came here without a passport.

  • boats48

    Obama’s being nice to you, idiot! Don’t believe it? Come home and let one of us get their hands on your useless, traitorous hide!

    • DarkKnight2016

      boats48 It’ll either be us or the CIA.

  • applepie101

    His conclusion, at least, sounds far from whiny:
    ‘In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers
    like me,..No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is
    afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional
    government it was promised — and it should be. I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many.’
    I don’t know his motives, nor the extent of his activity. What I do know is that some governments turn against their citizens, and when they do, I pray that there are some among them who will not just ‘follow orders.’

    • Micawber

      applepie101 I think those are true words – well spoken!

      • deTocqueville1

        Micawber applepie101 Absolutely!

  • deTocqueville1

    Not whiny to my thinking and comprehension. In fact everything he states is correct as far as we can determine having regard to the BS emanating from the Establishment hacks.

  • Rshill7

    I want more people to come out…whistle blowers galore. Whistle high and whistle low. Whistle loud and let it grow. The last thing we need in this modern age of commies is super secrecy.  I want real transparency. My favorite color is clear.
    Dear Commies:
    It’s high time you started kissing The Constitution’s Ass! The Constitution is everything, and you’re nothing. Got it? Good. As far as I’m concerned, Snowden is much more the Patriot than Obama is. If you disagree, keep it to yourself, cuz I’ll slam it down your throat with repetition. 
    Snowden has done more for our country than John Boehner has. He has juxtaposed what our country is doing with what it should be doing. Our country has taken our fourth amendment rights and has shredded them while trying to shred other amendments too. When it comes to revealing violations of our Constitution, I’ll take a “traitor” any day over so many elected oath breakers. Perhaps Snowden took that same oath and didn’t want to violate it like the ones in office now are violating it..
    Do you trust your Federal Government today? I don’t. Sorry to say that, but I don’t. My own Government has violated that trust repeatedly. 
    Rs.

    • DarkKnight2016

      Rshill7 I disagree completely. Snowden is a traitor.

      • Rshill7

        DarkKnight2016 Rshill7  Good for you.

        • DarkKnight2016

          Rshill7 DarkKnight2016 I agree, good for me.

        • Rshill7

          DarkKnight2016 Rshill7 
          Let me be the first to award you the disagreement trophy.

        • DarkKnight2016

          Rshill7 DarkKnight2016 Why thank you!

        • Rshill7

          DarkKnight2016 Rshill7  “Stupid is as stupid does.”
          Thanks for the vivid illustration.

        • stage9

          Rshill7 DarkKnight2016 LOL!

      • debrabond12

        DarkKnight2016YOU’VE BEEN DRINKING THE KOOL-AID HAVEN’T YA??

        • DarkKnight2016

          debrabond12 DarkKnight2016 Nope.

        • Rshill7

          DarkKnight2016 debrabond12  Ahhh, mainlining it.

        • debrabond12

          Rshill7 DarkKnight2016 debrabond12 lol!  had to look that up..and I am a nurse!

      • strangernfiction

        DarkKnight2016 Rshill7 Didn’t see that coming. LOL

      • CassieCarter

        DarkKnight2016 Rshill7 You are DARK, idiot DK2016 .  You’re one of the stupid, useless neocon’s or a plant on this website.  Anyone that can call  Snowden a traitor is absolutely delusional to an extreme.

      • http://nation.foxnews.com/ americalsgt

        DarkKnight2016 Rshill7 Like Julius and Ethel?

  • MarieCowsert1

    I’m perfectly fine with what he did, he did us a huge favor. 
    I hope he stays safe where he’s at…

  • stage9

    HAVE YOU HEARD THIS COMMERCIAL FROM HILLARY??

    I heard this while flipping through the radio on the way home and almost drove off the road!
    Hillary asks in a presidential ad, “Who do you want answering the phone at 3 am in the white house?” You gotta hear this!

    • DarkKnight2016

      stage9 heard it back in 2008

      • stage9

        DarkKnight2016 stage9 oh really? It’s been around that long? That’s the first time I’d ever heard it.

        • Orangeone

          stage9 DarkKnight2016 Wonder why it’s on the radio now?????

        • doofuschmartz

          stage9 DarkKnight2016 Senator Cruz needs to RE-PLAY that message when he runs against her (and make no mistake, SHE WILL RUN) in 2016…over, and over again with images of the Benghazi Consulate burning in the background…

      • deTocqueville1

        DarkKnight2016 stage9 Yes and she obviously forgot the rhetorical answer on 9/11 Benghazi night.

  • suzy000

    Are YOU kidding me?  Obama ranted and raved in 2008 about Bush spying on Americans and then Obama takes it to NEW HEIGHTS!!!  Please…enough of this traitor stuff….I have always upheld our government in stopping traitors…but Snowden ONLY revealed what Obama said he would STOP!  Obama is the hypocrite here and many Americans are pi$$ed Obama did not turn out to be as he professed to be in the election.

  • debrabond12

    THIS YOUNG MAN IMO IS A HERO. HE HAS MORE COURAGE IN HIS LITTLE FINGER THAN A LOT OF GROWN MEN . I KNOW OF PEOPLE SITTING IN THEIR CUSHY FRONT ROOM, FEEDING THEIR PIE HOLES, SPEWING UNTRUTHS! A TRAITOR IN LATIN” TRADERE” MEANS BETRAY….JUST WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION STANDS FOR.

    • Orangeone

      debrabond12 I appreciate your input. Upper lower case in posts is easier to read. Might you consider that for future posts?  Thx

  • tinlizzieowner

    Putin says that Snowden is in a ‘transit zone’ at the air port that he doesn’t control, really?
    Does anybody actually expect me to believe that there is one square inch of Russia that (KGB) Putin doesn’t ‘control’?

  • physicsnut

    WBAI played a speech by Glenn Greenwald on Snowden before the “socialism 2013 conference” in Chicago. Even he said that journalism in the usa is totally corrupt, and had a few zingers for the dude who was interviewing him on tv – who leaked a few secrets himself ! oh well, it all gets more and more curious by the hour.
    Naturally in the very next hour they were blabbering on about all the poor illegal immigrants and how are they going to get federal benefits, and how horrible the republicans are, never mind the tea party. oh well. Then they had Robert Reich blabbing about immigration – hey, i lived in NYC and saw the effects of out of control immigration, so his ‘facts and figures’ from CBO leave me cold. He just wants to cancel our votes, and thats that.
      I am not going to worry overly much about Snowden because anybody who has a clue about govt security already has read about what the NSA collects – namely, everything. Unlike the commie spies of WW2 or Aldrich Ames and others who either won ideologically, or got lots of cash , at least Snowden went public and knew what he was going to have Obama going after him.

    • physicsnut

      one can google  greenwald socialism 2013  – the guardian has the video and firedoglake has a transcript

    • debrabond12

      physicsnut But I didn’t know! Nor did the average America. I thought that of course there was surveillance in the US but I assumed on suspicions of  terrorist activity. Really shocked me the amount of information collected.

      • physicsnut

        debrabond12 physicsnut I thought there were SOME secrets stolen during WW2 but found “The Crown Jewels” and “Engineering Communism” and those two books showed that the commies sent EVERYTHING to the KGB – much went right out the front gate at Fort Monmouth with Joel Barr and Alfred Sarant and their (many) pals. 
          and WW2 was the start of serious Signals Intelligence and intercepting cables for VENONA and all that, and Truman was not told – they did not trust him.  But the commies had moles in the FBI so the KGB knew about all this stuff anyway. Hoover had to brief Kim Philby – who spent his evenings answering questions from the KGB in great detail.
         Given that – I have no snap opinions. It is clear from reading Richard Pipes books on the Bolsheviks based on Soviet Archives what they did to create the Totalitarian Police State. Information is just one facet – their intent was to use it against the population and they had the “levers of power” and control of the press to do it, and people who had no traditions of liberty, never mind having cars or phones or guns.
         Well, we have been warned before – heck, even back in the 90’s Texe Marrs was warning about this surveillance stuff, and the potential for abuse.

  • Rshill7

    The only thing in this entire world that protects your individual rights is the U.S. Constitution and God Almighty. If the NSA is violating that document, I want to know about it. I demand to know about it. I deserve to know about it. I have been endowed with the right to know about it. Whoever does not inform me about it is the traitor. He who does inform me, is my countryman.

    • doofuschmartz

      Rshill7 Amen!

    • physicsnut

      Rshill7 It gets a bit dicey.  Bradley Manning dumped a whole lot of stuff, and it is not often I feel sorry for Hillary, but spilling that kind of diplomatic data strikes me as unnecessary to make a point, and a lot more damaging to ordinary diplomacy. It is difficult to know whether the NSA is violating the Constitution, because we don’t know what they are actually doing. It is not even clear what they are capable of doing. Unfortunately technology has a habit of getting ahead of human institutions.

  • NanNJ

    I don’t get how anybody who is not directly knowledgable of the exact national security information that is hurting the US, cannot believe this man is a hero. I am so glad that he outed the fact that all our info is being saved.

    • PaulMarek1

      NanNJ They keep getting hung up on the fact that he’s a lefty … and that he’s been stuck in Russia.  Had he been a Tea Party guy, they’d be cheering him all the way.  It’s a pathetic partisan unintellectual position.  What counts … and it’s all that counts, is that your government is setting up a surveillance state that the Stasi could only dream of, and Snowden has proved it.  And, your government is also engaged in Cold War spying on your friends, your allies.  Imagine, Germany is lumped in with Iran and China for being spied on … your country is turning into something that no conservative or American patriot should ever support … yet it’s all about Snowden’s politics … like “Wah Wah Wah”.  Good grief, some of you deserve to loose your country.  Scoop has disapointed me on this one.

      • strangernfiction

        PaulMarek1 NanNJ Lefty’s that make life miserable for this regime are my kind of lefty’s.

    • physicsnut

      NanNJ 
      actually this has been made clear by others BEFORE Snowden

  • vettegal14

    The real thing that gets me about this is all the smack Obama talked about Bush’s spying, etc and he has taken it to new heights.   He is the biggest liar I have ever seen.  Quite frankly, I am glad that Snowden has revealed the stellar hypocrisy of this fraud and his admin.  It may be the only time that I have actually sided with the ACLU on an issue.  Lol

    • Laurel A

      vettegal14 1000 pluses!

    • Orangeone

      vettegal14 The ACLU sued ONLY to protect THEIR records, not yours or mine even though they had standing to protect all of us.

      • Laurel A

        Orangeone vettegal14 True..but I like the fact it really exposes Obama’s hypocrisy…not that the left cares about that. They have proven that.

        • Orangeone

          Laurel A Orangeone vettegal14 You are correct there but notice the MSM crickets again.

        • Laurel A

          Orangeone Laurel A vettegal14 Well this time they are in conundrum. Like a lot of people they are torn on what to think about Snowden. I’ve gone more than a few rounds on him and that is just with fellow conservatives.

    • doofuschmartz

      vettegal14 Obama is the Master Smack Talker Extraordinaire…yesiree! He made us folks here in the proud state of Texas breathe a sigh of relief when he came prancin’ down here to the West/Waco area to tell our folks that he was gonna make sure they got everything they needed to recover from the horrible disaster of the explosion at the fertilizer plant…at least until FEMA said…Sorry, we can’t help you, but our President sure got a nice Photo OP and a boost in his poll numbers…

      • Dr. Strangelove

        doofuschmartz vettegal14 Republican area, huh? The people of Joplin and Harrisburg are with you, they got the shaft, too.

  • Laurel A

    I agree with Scoop. If Snowden is truly in setting the truth free, come home and face them.

    • debrabond12

      Laurel A My fantasy..Obama impeached.. IRS abolished, Rand/Cruz…and Snowden back with his family. oh and Hilary just goes away..far away

      • Laurel A

        debrabond12 Laurel A Well that’s reasonable enough….I guess…provided he can clear his name dear. I’m not sure his family is his biggest priority though.

    • PaulMarek1

      Laurel A … oh my, that’s about as naive a thought as one could express.  Face the government that spies on it’s own people at Cold War levels, uses the IRS, EPA, ATF, and others to persecute its political enemies, and has Erick Holder for AG … I don’t think it’s sunk into some of your heads exactly what your country has become.

      • Laurel A

        PaulMarek1 Laurel A I think too many people have watched too many movies. Sooner opr later if any enemy is to be defeated then that enemy must be faced.

        • CassieCarter

          Laurel A PaulMarek1 
          Laurel you are a compromised idiot NEOCON!!!!!!!!!  Just like Scoop seems to be…..this website has a lot of useless NEOCONS, wake up fools, this country has been overthrown by DEMONcraps and NEOCONcraps!!!!!
          Maybe if you NEOCONS would turn off The Saudi Channel, Faux New you might learn some reality.  Unbelievable!

        • Laurel A

          CassieCarter Laurel A PaulMarek1 Yeah that was so intelligent. Really.
          sarc/off

      • Laurel A

        Oh and P.S. Remember this administration has lots of enemies within the government and without it. Snowden became a disaffected and entirely un-enamored leftist so in his mind after the jig was up on Obama, everyone was an enemy. I’m sure he has bought all fo teh propaganda for a years about the right and conservatives. Doesn’t exactly demonstrate clear thinking.

        • PaulMarek1

          Laurel A Whether Snowden was a disaffected leftist or one-eyed gay kitten killer makes no difference; it’s irrelevant.  What you are saying is that it’s about who Snowden “is”, and not “what” he has revealed.  Laurel, it’s thinking like yours that will destroy your country.  In your mind, because Snowden wasn’t on your team, what he has revealed about the unconstitutional behavior of your government, and it’s horrific treatment of its allies, means nothing.  It’s biggoted thinking Laurel, plain and simple. Lord help us.

        • strangernfiction

          PaulMarek1 Laurel A Great posts Paul. Step one is getting the decent folks to WTFU and face what is going on (which includes facing the fact that the GOP is part of it).

        • Laurel A

          PaulMarek1 Laurel A Nonsense. It’s emotional thinking like yours that is the problem. Yes I question Snowden’s motives just as I question the motives of this government. I never ever said what the government was doing is right, but the ends don’t justify the means here. What Snowden is doing isn’t right either.

        • Laurel A

          strangernfiction PaulMarek1 Laurel A Never said the GOP wasn’t a part of it.

      • TKH55

        Totally agree Laurel.  You are spot on!

      • TKH55

        Totally agree Laurel.  You are spot on!

    • jondos

      Really? I am under the impression that the Obama authorized NDAA would allow the government to indefinitely hold Snowden without access to legal counsel. Who, in their right mind, would come home when the federal government is allowed to act as accuser, judge, and jury? I don’t blame him one second for leaving the Obama government behind.

      • Laurel A

        jondos I did not know that. Got a link or something I could read?

    • http://nation.foxnews.com/ americalsgt

      Laurel A   Would you Laurel?

      • Laurel A

        americalsgt Laurel A Not the point. I would of done things differently…I think but I am not in his shoes. What he is doing currently though is not good.

    • lawngreen

      Laurel A   Why? To die? Or spend the rest of his life in a particularly unpleasant jail among the general population? That would accomplish what?

      • Laurel A

        lawngreen Laurel A It would expose everything.

        • lawngreen

          Laurel A That could be. Or he could die mysteriously like Breitbart. Or be arrested and jailed and never heard from again. Both parties are enraged with him, after all. Who’d help him stay free and vocal? We the people don’t have much leverage at the moment, especially with the GOP, who should (IMO) be his allies, or at least interested enough to want him free and talking to them.
          It is what it is. We can’t change everything, so we have to pick our battle. Sad but true, Snowden is not high on my list of priorities.

        • Laurel A

          lawngreen Laurel A Breitbart didn’t die mysteriously. Who would help him?
          WE THE PEOPLE!
          Wouldn’t you help? Yeah there are people on both sides ticked but there is a lot of people that aren’t as well.
          We actually do have leverage and people aren’t using it.

  • strangernfiction

    This Snowden situation is proving quite revealing, and not just with regards to NSA spying.

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/index dmacleo

    don’t have to like or hero worship snowden to appreciate the info he has given us.
    I question what hes given others though.
    time will tell, I am still reserving judgment.

  • limelite001

    Sure, Snowden is probably a double agent. But, some good has come out of this in that America and the world now know what goes on behind closed doors. So, Snowden may be a traitor, but let’s all thank his weakness in that he also did some good. And just what has he achieved for himself in any case? He will live in fear for the rest of his life. He will never be able to go back to the USA unless as a criminal. He will never see his family again. He will now have to live outside of the USA forever. So, yes, he may well be a double agent; however, he really hasn’t gained anything by doing what he did.

    • Laurel A

      limelite001 Many.
      Many people put their lives on the line for this country and not just the military. Many would in a heart beat as well.

      • limelite001

        Laurel A limelite001 What are you carrying on about? Do you not see that Snowden has gotten nothing out of this except his 5 minutes of fame? And has he or has he not at least informed Americans and the world how Obama is spying on people. Can you honestly say he did no good? And people putting their lives on the line is not at issue here. Yet, more troops have died in Afghanistan under Obama than under Bush. Or are these lives not as important as those who may be at risk by what Snowden has done?

        • Laurel A

          limelite001 Laurel A I never said he didn’t do any good but what I don’t understand is people being all in on Snowden. He is not some unsung hero. He told you what you suspected. He confirmed what you knew…IF what he confirmed to the extent he confirmed it is 100% accurate and true. See the problem here is in order for the government to defend itself on this they must really leak/expose information and put people in danger to do so. I think Snowden knew that. I think he knew the burden of proof would be too high a price for the govt. to pay because the safety and security of any undercover operatives are at risk along with potentially every American. In defending itself the govt will be required to render any program neutered in order to do so.
          What I would like to see is Snowden come home, face his accusers, and try this in the public. Expose all of them. You gotta stay in the right to win the fight. His behavior doesn’t lend to that at all.

    • white531

      limelite001  
      You got this one right, limelight.  Snowden is a a mixed bag.  A ping pong anomaly.  The ping, is that in exposing the NSA and what they have been doing, he performed an heroic thing.  The pong, is that he has four laptops full of secure information that are now sitting on Putin’s desk.
      The cover story that he is somehow living in the Moscow Airport is amusing, but contains no reality.  Snowden is right now in a safe house in full lock down security, provided by the KGB.
      Whatever information was in those laptops, is  now in the archives of the KGB, or whatever they call it these days.

  • TKH55

    First of all, if you have been reading up on Michael Hasting’s MURDER, you will find that many people think that the story he was working on, was with Snowden. Snowden’s (father?) was in the military and knew something about 9-11 Twin Towers.  But more importantly, are we REALLY worried about what he will tell the Russians? After all, Obama has asked for Russian Troops to come to the USA to work with Fema in case of civil unrest. Yep. Obama is preparing for something, as much as you might want to deny it.

    • lawngreen

      TKH55   Do you have a link for obama inviting russian troops in for civil unrest? It’s not that I don’t believe you, but I’d like to be able to back it up when I tell my contacts.

  • njmom

    He’s right about one thing: OBAMA LIES!!!!!

  • Conniption Fitz

    It’s hard to see him or Manning as any worse traitors than the administration.

    • strangernfiction

      Conniption Fitz Those who see Manning as a worse traitor than this heinous regime are part of the problem. Sadly, that includes the vast majority of the GOP.

    • lawngreen

      Conniption FitzThanks for the link, Fitz. It’s a good one.
      Excerpt which says it all: “When Obama totes around a copy of The Post-American World and seems more
      eager to represent the interests of the wrong half of the world over
      those of his own country, he can hardly complain when men like Bradley
      Manning and Edward Snowden take him at his word and follow in his
      footsteps.”
      Exactly. Eat fugu and get stomach cramps, obama.

  • colliemum

    Kevin DuJan over at hillbuzz.org wrote a short while ago that Edward snowden is the typical example of the ‘me-me-me’ generation, for whom nothing else matters but their own regard of themselves as heros. National matters don’t come into it, because for them and thus for Mr Snowden, they are right, and who doesn’t think so is wrong and against them personally.
    That ludicrous statement illustrates this nicely. Perhaps we should send him a few packs of paper hankies – they’re not easy to get in Russia, IIRC, and he obviously needs them.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      colliemum Or maybe a roll of the new Obama constitution.

      • colliemum

        Dr. Strangelove
        Make that a dozen, it’s always dicey to run out of those new Obama constitution rolls …

  • Dr. Strangelove

    If he was willing to commit civil disobedience, he should of stayed to face the music. Dress warm comrade Snowden, it gets pretty cold in Siberia in a couple months.

  • http://nation.foxnews.com/ americalsgt

    I find it  difficult to condemn Edward Snowden for pointing out that our own government has been and is continuing to collect the very comments and like clicks we make here associated with other post and then putting  that data in a storage facility to be dredged up at some point in time and subsequently use that information to determine our political leanings  which could be used by the IRS for our financial future, our medical care, and eventually our lives.  If you want to call him a spoiled brat or even traitor, that’s up to you, but I think you are missing the point which is your government is watching and listening you every second of your life.

    • lawngreen

      americalsgt   I agree. As state above, I’m surprised that Snowden’s surprised at his treatment, but as far as I can see, he’s in trouble because he pulled the mask off the emerging tyrant government. They naturally want to give an object lesson to other potential whistleblowers.
      Run, baby, run.

  • colliemum

    Just one footnote as to why I do not regard Mr Snowden as a modern hero:
    Remember ‘ClimateGate’, the worldwide publication through the internet, of the e-mails of those climate scientists at a certain British University showing what scandalous hoax the whole thing is? Remember the uproar, the search for the culprit, especially after a second tranche of those e-mails were published a few years later?
    That person/those persons did not crave publicity, did not hold TV interviews, and even now nobody knows who really did it. 
    That person is a hero, because the actual subject – the destruction of our economies by the international green lobbyists through false and suspect data and papers – was and is of vital importance, but that person did not use this to make himself or herself look big and heroic, nor did he or she try to get lots of money from what they did.
    Compare that with Snowden … well, you do see the difference, don’t you!

  • lawngreen

    All other issues aside, Snowden’s naivete is surprising. And if he thinks he’s being treated badly here, wait until he gets to Venezuela or Russia. After they finish “interviewing” him for whatever other secrets he knows, he’ll probably be glad to depart the land of the living.

    • SheerPolitics

      lawngreen  He’s allegedly in Russia now.

      • lawngreen

        SheerPolitics  He’ll know soon, then.

  • brazen_infidel

    Your knee-jerk neocon attitude towards Snowden reminds me of Michael Moore when he says it’s “treasonous” to advocate abolition of the IRS.
    Look people, we are coming to a time of choosing in this nation. Do we owe blind loyalty to the NSA, CIA, IRS, EPA, Homeland Security or any other organ of the present American mega-state? Or to the Constitution and the sacred principles upon which was established? We’re getting to the point where it’s either-or.
    Snowden might well be self-important and naive, if not downright foolish, but he is fighting the good fight. I see him as the John Brown of our times, and fear that he is likely to end up the same way. That’s nothing to cheer about.

    • sDee

      brazen_infidel  
      I agree that we all must understand the enemy and where it lies. Still however, we still only surmise what Snowden exactly was accessing, why he was doin it, how he was discovered or why he had to run. 
      The sad relflection on We the People is that what Snowden has told us  he discovered and was exposing, is actually “legal” activity by the NSA. Unconsitutional, but still “legal” under the Patriot Act.
      He appears then, to have broke the “law”.  We the People have failed to stop a lawless government. If we correct that, Snowden becomes the hero for exposing unconstitutional legislation and government activity. If we do not, he spins in the wind.

  • sDee

    A useful idiot. A valuable one but still, a useful idiot.

    • strangernfiction

      sDee I agree, but this useful idiot is creating a lot of problems for our oppressors. That makes him a hero in my eyes.

      • sDee

        strangernfiction sDee  
        Useful to Putin?

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/index dmacleo

    I will say this, if you wanted to show more flexibility towards russia in your second term what would one  off the best gifts you could give be???
     cannot put my finger on it but something has been bugging me about all this from day one, but since I can’t parse what that is I’ll shutup niow.

    • sDee

      dmacleo  
      Follow your instincts.

      • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/index dmacleo

        sDee dmacleo like I said earlier, watching and waiting.
        I am in no hurry to rush to judgment on him.

  • SheerPolitics

    Keep in mind that he is the hands of Russians now. We don’t really know at this point WHAT is coming from Snowden or is coming from surrogates that are holding him. It’s been some time since he’s been seen by any reputable source.
    I think he was trying to do the right thing. Personally, I wouldn’t feel safe taking this to someone in our government…that you wouldn’t get “disappeared”. But going to China or Russia was crazy. Very naive thinking THEY would protect you. I don’t doubt his being interrogated by the Russians.

    • DinkleDonkel

      Russia want him out as fast as they can, if anything. Also, the Russians pose no more risk to snowden than France, UK, Japan etc. would. The only places that would even think about interrogating him would be North Korea and maybe China (althoulgh that isn’t very likely).
      I think Snowden was a very brave man, sacrificing his home so that we should know the extent of our own governments surveillance on us, and our allies. Not to mention Boundless Informant!