WOAH! Charles Barkley: I agree with the Zimmerman verdict

While I don’t agree that there was racial profiling, I must say that Charles Barkley pretty much nails it in this interview. Despite his belief that George Zimmerman was racial profiling Trayvon Martin, he also says that something flipped the equation and that he believes Trayvon Martin started trying to beat the hell out of George Zimmerman. In terms of the verdict, he says there just wasn’t the evidence to convict Zimmerman of anything.

He also said something else that I loved:

The main thing that I feel bad for is that it gives every white person and black person who’s racist a platform to vent their ignorance.

He also says that he doesn’t like it when ‘race’ is thrown around in the media because he doesn’t believe they have a pure heart or clean hands.


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  • 57thunderbird

    Wow!I’m blown away.I disagree with him on the issue of racial profiling,the rest of his comments blew me away.Especially his admission about many blacks being racist,and the media having dirty hands.Whoda thunk it.

    • 57thunderbird He made some very salient points. I bet his twitter account is about to blow up.

      • 57thunderbird

        therightscoop 57thunderbird As you say below.Good thing he isn’t on twitter.

    • 57thunderbird I take that back. Barkely isn’t on twitter. A decision he probably won’t regret after his comments today.

      • 57thunderbird

        therightscoop 57thunderbird Agreed RS 🙂

      • comoesta3

        therightscoop 57thunderbird Twitchy has something on him so I would assume he goes on Twitter.  Anyway, it’s refreshing to hear someone like him say something like that.

        • 57thunderbird

          comoesta3 therightscoop 57thunderbird It is refreshing indeed.

        • Orangeone

          comoesta3 therightscoop 57thunderbird People on Twitter are tweeting about his statement, no Twitter handle for Barkley.

        • comoesta3

          Orangeone comoesta3 therightscoop 57thunderbird 
          And I thought I was the only one who didn’t go on Twitter.

        • 57thunderbird

          Orangeone comoesta3 therightscoop 57thunderbird That’s what Scoop said below.

        • comoesta3 Orangeone therightscoop 57thunderbird   It seems to me the thing I see is people retracting what they say on twitter.  I think they should put a breathalyzer on computers to prevent the stupid things people twit.

        • 57thunderbird

          americalsgt comoesta3 Orangeone therightscoop 57thunderbird Good idea! 🙂

      • therightscoop 57thunderbird No surprise to me.  He just never seemed like a twitter type.

    • WordsFailMe

      57thunderbird I think he’s wrong about the liberal, Obama supporting George Zimmerman and the profiling but we should just wait 24 hours. Charles, if he knows what’s good for him,  will “walk back” 80% of what he said.
      It he does not, blacks, and I’m only saying that a majority of black Americans, will profile him as an Uncle Tom or a Conservative black man and make his life miserable as they have done to other reasonable, thoughtful and courageous Black Americans.

      • 57thunderbird

        WordsFailMe 57thunderbird Anybody that has heard most of the things Barkley has said concerning politics,knows that he is anything but conservative.Only time will tell if pressure from the black community will cause him to walk back his comments.

        • 57thunderbird WordsFailMe   Agreed.  He covered himself by saying that there was profiling on Z’s part, but that knowing he was about to be killed he killed Trayvon.  Could be wrong, but I think Barkley is a big supporter of the right to bear arms.

        • 57thunderbird

          americalsgt 57thunderbird WordsFailMe I have a feeling that you may be correct.

  • Orangeone

    Note to Mr. Barkley, there is no evidence that George Zimmerman was racially profiling. To be honest, anyone out at night like that and now even in the day time should be concerned about people around them.  People on drugs do crazy and dangerous things.  People with tempers do dangerous and violent things.  Unless you know the person, better to be careful than overly trusting.

    • Orangeone I don’t know Orangeone, I think Barkley just said what some of us feel but he can say it because he’s black and would kick most everyone’s butt.  I don’t know about you, but if I’m walking down the street and three young white kids are walking toward me with their skateboards, and then followed by three black kids with their pants down to their patellas wearing do rags, am I profiling if I cross the street before I come face to face with the black kids or am I just playing the odds?

      • Orangeone

        americalsgt Orangeone I don’t believe in any way Zimmerman was racialing profiling the thug, was doing what a neighborhood watch person does, reporting suspicious activity.  Holder is retrying this case because he and Obama didn’t get the verdict they want, racial profiling.

        • Orangeone americalsgt   I agree with you, I’m just pointing out that racial profiling is not a sin.  It’s common sense and to pin all of George’s innocence on his non profiling is, in my opinion, a lack of honesty on some people; not pointing out you, but some people in the discussion.  I can honestly say that I try to never put myself in a position where a confrontation with young black youths is on my to do list any day.

      • 57thunderbird

        americalsgt Orangeone I would go with playing the odds.

        • 57thunderbird americalsgt Orangeone Is no shit Shakespeare acceptable here?

        • 57thunderbird

          americalsgt 57thunderbird Orangeone Fine with me,but I can’t speak for RS. 🙂

    • CalCoolidge

      Orangeone It’s fun just to toss these things in. 
      Suppose, Z “profiled” Martin.  So what. 
      Suppose Z is wicked racist.  So what.
      Racists have the same rights as everyone else, like the right not to be punch and pummeled, and the right of self defense.
      Why do I get the sense from so many that racism is the be-all end-all of everything.  If they can just show that Z is racist, then he is guilty.  The actual charge is incidental.

      • Orangeone

        CalCoolidge Orangeone You are absolutely correct. And notice in my post I said “better to be careful than overly trusting”.

      • CalCoolidge Orangeone   Well said Cal  Keep Cool with Cal

  • RoadKing99

    He will be ridiculed as an Uncle Tom by his own race now. I commend him for speaking what he feels is right instead of following along racial lines.

  • Barkley has always said what he felt.  Remember when he said it wasn’t his responsibility to be a role model.

    • 57thunderbird

      americalsgt Yes he does say what he feels.The problem is he usually sees most things with a leftist slant.

  • I feel like crime is the third and somewhat silent or forgotten party here. 
    Two SE Atlanta towns (while the trial was on) were in an uproar about crime in their neighborhoods.  Calling public meetings.  Stating they are living in fear…can’t go outside at night.  Neighborhoods like living in war zones.  One thief looked 10yrs old. Advocating self-defense.
    The Zimmerman neighborhood sounds like it was in a siege mentality…they had a home invasion and 7or8 break-ins in a year.
    Hoodies the choice of thieves to conceal face..etc.  Thugs and thief’s  are “scary” no matter what color they are to vulnerable people.  It is about crime not race.

    • WordsFailMe

      sallyjohanna Here’s some really good additional information about the phony martyr, Trayvon:
      Very interesting

      • WordsFailMe sallyjohanna I watched the video. Thanks, very interesting. I was glad to see I had my facts about the trial correct. Right on target.  The only fact I disagreed with was GZ was already out of his car when he was told not to follow.  He did walk down the path to get that address and wasn’t following.  I had the luxury of being able to watch the trial. There are so many mischaracterizations and flat out lies floated on the blogs…especially by the left. 
        Now the real problem is the fall out that the Administration, race baiters and LMSM are propagating for political and financial gain…I liked his word reprehensible.  They have already created “new” victims who have been injured or property damaged.  To those people the fall out is real and traumatic. This is disgraceful for America.

      • SophiaH8

        WordsFailMe sallyjohanna  Thank you for that link. Well done  vid I  am  sharing.

    • K-Bob

      It ain’t the hoodie.
      It’s the behavior.

      • K-Bob sallyjohanna Absolutely personal behavior. The hoodie has become a symbol of someone possibly up to no good…I felt if Zimmerman profiled anything it was the hoodie not the race under it.  Thieves seem to like them to conceal their identities.

  • famouswolf

    What, I’m supposed to be impressed by this?

    • 57thunderbird

      famouswolf No impressed.More like stunned.

  • Proudhispanicconservative

    Let’s start a pool as to how long it takes him to have to apologize because the liberal idiots are going to be pissed off, I say 24 Hrs.

    • Proudhispanicconservative   Never – He is a bad ass.  Never

      • 57thunderbird

        americalsgt Proudhispanicconservative Only time will tell.

  • jhomes55

    “Barkley ain’t nothin but a house ni88er, uncle tom, white lovin, gun totin, bible thumping, honky tonk, billy ray cyrus achy breaky haert actin fool!”   – Said every liberal

    • 57thunderbird

      jhomes55 Pretty close.Se garym1’s examples below.

    • Conniption Fitz

      You forgot coconut, Oreo, traitor to his race and not really black.

  • Proudhispanicconservative

    Breaking News: Detroit just filed for bankruptcy. Liberal Utopia at its finest.

    • badbadlibs

      And yet the liberal mind is so far gone they will never make the connection to liberal ideology and the depths of poverty.

      • Proudhispanicconservative

        Exactly, I have seen the pictures from Detroit and They just fail to see the connection that liberal policies dont work.

        • WordsFailMe

          Proudhispanicconservative Detroitt fails? White racism at work again. They just ran off and left that place without a tax base. 
          – 2010 Pop Demo, partial:
          Detroit Population
          White           55,604
          Black         586,573
          Hispanic     48,679
          From FOX Business- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8JOG_PfQZg
          Joanne Wasson (2::00), a member of the Detroit City Council urges Michigan officials to  “…go to Washington and come back wit some bacon……….That’s what you do…… That’s what you do.”
          Somebody pick me up a “Bama phone” while you’re there, would ya?

  • Conniption Fitz

    Meanwhile back at the race mines, Jesse Jackson wants the UN to look into the trial.
      – “Not content with elevating the Zimmerman/Martin case to the federal level, Jesse Jackson wants the UN involved: http://t.co/7t0qdqaFS6

    • 57thunderbird

      Conniption Fitz I would say something about the UN,but I don’t like to use that language.The UN has no business or right to interfere with the internal happenings in the US.

    • badbadlibs

      Conniption Fitz 
      The bottom is limitless to these race baiters, there’s no depth to which they will sink. Can the UN just keep that idiot.

      • Las1

        badbadlibs Conniption Fitz  
        The bottom has not yet been reached.  Just wait till Jackson and Sharpton take a little visit to Tehran to spew how racist America is.  It’s been done before.
        Canadian aboriginal former First Nations Chief (creep) Terence Nelson visited Iran to decry Canada’s “human rights abuses” claiming Canada’s trying to “exterminate” it’s aboriginals.
        The fact that Sharpton and Jackson have not yet done it is that their race obsessions and hatred occupies too much of the minds and gets in the way of catching on to a bright idea.  But it will come.  Whatever international thug nation will give them a platform… they’ll be there… maybe with Samantha Sunstein… er.. Power’s help.

    • DomenickDeRose

      Conniption Fitz The REVEREND Jessie Jackson. The REVEREND Al Sharpton. The REVERENCE escapes me.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    Below is a link to a video of a black preacher that really gets the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case.  He understands that Zimmerman was tried in a court of law and was found not guilty.  Very interesting, I recommend it highly:

    • SophiaH8

      Army_Pilot1967  Good  video. Right on  target

  • WhiteGuy2

    The only reason whiteguys like me are angry about this case is the false narrative that GZ is white when it is painfully obvious he is hispanic. and that this case is somehow evidence of the deep racial prejudice of white people in America..All of it is in fact false yet is being pushed in the media as truth. The only proven racist in this incident is Trayvon, but dont mind me in just a whiteguy aka crazy azz crackah.

  • SurfinCowboy

    Interesting video. Thanks Scoop. I always like how Barkley says what he feels, and rarely just regurgitates what others have said. Guy has got a noodle on those shoulders when it comes to this issue.
    Now, on the racial profiling comment I have a couple of thoughts. 
    Having been active on a few YouTube channels and on other sites about this issue in the past few days I have learned to use the expression, “situational profiling” as opposed to racial profiling. The idea is simple, if you live in an area where there is a high occurrence of short midgets with pink mohawks that beat people with tire irons, then when you see a short midget with a pink mohawk and you prepare/act accordingly you are situationally profiling. You are using what security folks call “targeted intelligence”.
    We all understand that in GZ’s neighborhood there had been a number of burglaries committed by young black men – if I recall, I think GZ even saw one get away or something like that – so when GZ spots a young black male dressed in a certain dress, walking a certain way, etc. he is not really racially profiling someone, rather he is using the data of recent robberies to situationally profile TM.
    In some places, it might be skinheads, MS-13, neck tattoos, colored dress, prison fashion, etc. that is the signifier for whatever group may be the predominant criminal element in the area, which would make it perfectly logical to profile that individual. If you see a guy in a hockey mask with a running chainsaw walking down the street you don’t walk past them so that you don’t hurt the feelings of other innocent hockey mask wearing chainsaw enthusiasts, you get the heck out of there. To truly racially profile, you would (in the case of GZ) call 911 if 1) a young black man in a suit was walking down the sidewalk, 2) an old black woman in a wheelchair with a service dog was travelling down the sidewalk, 3) a young black woman in a cocktail dress and coat was walking down the sidewalk – but when it is only young black males in certain dress (that happens to be the number one committer of crime in your neighborhood), that is just common sense to be suspicious – which is exactly what I would expect from my community watch.
    Another thing I have tried to do, because it helps to disarm the progressive/liberal/race-baiters out there, is to not use the word “race” but instead use the term “skin color”. The word race used in a field like biology is perfectly understandable, but in sociological commentary it actually is a propaganda tool for the aforementioned prog/lib/baiters. Race in the way that the media and many are using it is more of what race was thought to mean at the turn of the 20th century, when it was believed to be a scientific categorization of different races of man, the three being the Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. We all know that there is one race of people – the human race – and using the word is a trap to get caught up in the Prog/Lib/Bait world of separating people by appearance and bestowing on them certain characteristics and assumptions of how they think.

    In doing this, you get to call out the Prog/Lib/Bait for using race to divide people, because, “we are all of the same race”, and when they argue about differences in people you point out there are words like “skin color”, “ethnicity”, “community”, “culture”, etc., that are far more accurate and do not allow for the bold cut-and-dry separation of people into groups that so satisfy the bigoted Prog/Lib/Bater.
    Ok, that is enough for now. Thanks for the video Scoop.

  • steprock

    I really appreciate that sentiment. The race card is doing no one any good, least of all blacks in America!
    Reading his statement, I was just thinking: if the guy you are profiling as possibly dangerous turns around and tries to bash your skull in, is it still profiling? If so, is that a bad thing?

  • StevenValdez

    Wow, refreshing when someone actually looks at the evidence in this case, despite believing there could have been some kind of racial profiling by Zimmerman, that doesn’t mean he killed the kid for that reason.

    • StevenValdez Seriously true. If George had racial hatred in his being, why stop at one black kid when a bus load would improve his satisfaction. The whole notion is ridiculous.

      • SophiaH8

        warpmine StevenValdez  George  tutored black kids  in his home  
        He dated a black  girl  for their  Prom. He stepped up to  defend an  elder black man  against the  SPD who were  abusing  him. Some of his black neighbors said he  never  had  any  racist thoughts. George  Zimmermans  Grandfather  was  black.

        where was  ANyY  racism  on  Georges  part?
        the  kid thought a wuss guy  like  George  would be an  easy  mark to give a beat down so  he could strut  and  brag on how he  ‘did’  a creepy ass  cracka
        but  at the last  momnet  when  the kid  had  nearly  beat  George  into unconsciousness George  knew  it was fight back  or die
        George  could not  punch  the kid on top of  him so the ONLY  way  out was to  slide his hand  under his  hip and  pull  out his  gun and so he did
        the kid was  surprised  as he  said  twice ” you got me, you  got me”
        he never thought  a wuss  like  George,  he has  PROFILED as an  easy mark, would or  could fight back  or like the bush hiding  coward  he was he  would NOT have jumped out  to  smash  George in the nose

        Reason  shows this to be  how  the kid  thought and  acted  so it was no  different when he CHOSE to  act out  on  George.  It  wasnt  George who was the  profiling  racist here
        it  was  the kid  who made a  baaaad  decision to  hide and attack instead  of  going on to his  daddys  and drinking  his PURPLE  DRANK and running  his HATE on  his  phone to the girl who may  or may not have been his GF but  blatantly  lied      repeatedly even saying on  the Morgan program  she knew the kid attacked.
         This   has a  sliver lining, it  has  made many  gullible and  passive  like  George  Americans  wake up  to  reality . The more  intelligent and  reasning  blacks who  speak up  toe  sooner  this  can  be  finally laid to  rest
        Good on  Barkley. May  MORE such  people  come  forward and show  courage and  logic.

        • 3seven77

          SophiaH8 warpmine StevenValdez It’s never a good idea to decide to rough-up someone else, especially someone you don’t know. The aggressor has no idea whether the victim is armed or not nor how the victim will choose to defend him/herself.

        • SophiaH8

          3seven77 SophiaH8 warpmine StevenValdez 
            IMV its never a  good idea  to  rough anyone up
          that  perpetuates a  collective mind set that  ‘ roughingup’
          is  a legitimate  use of ones energy  and need  for physical  exercise in an  appropriate  way

  • But there was racial profiling….by the media against Zimmerman!

  • bluerose3335

    Racial profiling is called normal we all do it everyday for a variety of reasons and you know what you live in the real world with your OWN EYES AND EARS and you learn and you gain WISDOM from experience and guess what STATS do not lie that report the facts as they are.  Emotion is involved but the facts are the facts and if you choose to ignore them you do so at your own peril.  Racial profiling will always happen and so what!

    • kong1967

      bluerose3335   Racial profiling works.  When they are looking for a serial killer they can generally narrow it down to white males.  When they are looking for someone putting a bomb on a plane they would be wise if they looked for young Arab, Muslim men….but they don’t (they look for 80 year old white grandma in a wheelchair).  In this case the neighborhood was being robbed a lot by young black men, so obviously a young black man is going to be looked at more suspiciously.

      • JohnCraven

        kong1967, aren’t the Nero Obama gangsters who are looking to beat up as many white Hispanic Christian males as they can also profiling?  Especially since George Zimmerman really couldn’t be considered a “white Hispanic” since I think one of his grandfathers was black.  Maybe he should be called a tan Hispanic?
        That’s why a friend of mine at work has decided he won’t be a white Hispanic Christian anymore.  From now on he’s going to be a “black Hispanic Muslim”.  He just hasn’t decided whether he’ll be a Shiite or a Sunni Muslim since they all look alike to him.
        In any event by transforming himself into a black Hispanic Muslim my friend figures the drones Nero Obama sends out to look for white Hispanic Chrisitans for his BORG followers to beat up will pass him on by.  They won’t notice him because there’ll be nothing for them to see there and he’ll get away scot free.  Did I say a taboo word when I said scot free?  Will the Scots be offended?
        John Craven – New Orleans

        • kong1967

          JohnCraven  Yes, they are also profiling.  When they randomly attack Hispanics for payback they are lumping all Hispanics into one basket….guilty.  Never mind that many of them might agree with the protesters because their liberal beliefs on gun control trump their feelings to align with their own.
          It’s ok to stereotype and profile if your’e doing it for the liberal cause.  It’s ok to label all Tea Party members and conservatives as racist.  It’s ok to beat up random whites and Hispanics because we represent George Zimmerman.  
          Liberals are hypocrites and liars.  Profiling is only bad if it goes towards stopping something like illegal immigration and liberals busing them to the polls to vote.

  • JohnCraven

    I don’t think what caught Zimmerman’s attention that sad night was Trayvon Martin’s race but rather that he was simply not known in the neighborhood.  Additionally, it was the 9-11 people who asked Zimmermann what color Trayvon Martin was.
    Other than I think he missed the boat on the racial profiling, I think Charles Barkely was very accurate in what he said.
    John Craven- New Orleans

  • kong1967

    I really like Charles Barkley.  He’s an intelligent man.  It doesn’t hurt that he likes the KU basketball team, either (I’m from Kansas).  🙂
    I don’t believe there was any profiling going on, because (if I remember correctly) the police asked him what color Trayvon was and he had to look while he was being asked.  He didn’t immediately know.  However, even if there was there’s nothing wrong with it.  Profiling happens by nature.  If your neighborhood is being robbed constantly and it’s by young black men, you’re going to naturally be suspicious of a young black man walking through your back yards.  I don’t have a problem with profiling at all.

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  • clubgitmo

    Racial profiling? Where Charles? Media doesn’t have clean hands? Now that makes sense for once. BTW who cares what this guy says.

  • Laurel A

    “The main thing that I feel bad for is that it gives every white person
    and black person who’s racist a platform to vent their ignorance.”
    Amen! But be aware Charles that you have monetarily and openly supported those that do the very thing that you condemn.

  • lawngreen

    “…he doesn’t believe [the media] have a pure heart or clean hands.”
    Give this man a medal ! Brother, is he right on that one! And I’m glad to see that, as far as the verdict, he chooses reason and facts instead of emotion and race. It’s always a pleasure to see someone choose the right way of thinking, even if we don’t agree on everything.

  • jrenai67

    He was great on the Haney project.  He really opened the door for golfers to struggle and get through the game

  • jrenai67

    What makes this story so great is that typically the GZ of this attack is killed and the TM goes on to a lifetime of crime. The accusation of robbery could have been easily put to rest the act of getting beat to death, not so easy to stop.  The gun was GZ saving grace

  • jrenai67

    Do you feel bad for the parents that are planning on cashing in on his death

  • SophiaH8

    The Truth About George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin 

    Best  video  yet on this  fiasco

  • SophiaH8

    http://www.14words.net/2013/07/msnbc-more-white-kids-need-to-die-in.htmlMichael Eric Dyson
     “So now we get more approximate to the truth of what race is in this
    country. As for Eric Holder, look: the reality is you gotta act now. The
    president, you won the second term. You’re in office. You are
    ensconced. Do something courageous, bold, and helpful. Not only to
    African American people but to America. Because unless we do this, white
    Americans and others will feel that this was a justifiable verdict,
    this is how things happen. Not until, and unless, the number of white
    kids die that approximate the numbers of black and other kids who die,
    will America see. It’s beyond logic. It’s about rationality. It’s about
    let’s get something done. I think the attorney general will look at this
    and I think it’s time for him to act.” 

  • msverde2

    Evidence, evidence, evidence, facts, facts, facts are at the majority indisputable.  Raw and much needed!