Alan Dershowitz offers to help #FreeJustina, says law is CLEAR and on the side of the parents

Alan Dershowitz told Huckabee tonight that if everything we know about the #FreeJustina case is true, then this is a horrible abuse of human rights and of civil liberties. He said that Massachusetts law is clearly on the side of the parents, pointing out that if there is a conflict in medical opinion over a child under Massachusetts law, the dispute is settled by the parents, not the hospitals or the state. He even offered to help the parents get custody back of their daughter.

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Everyone including the courts are terrified of DCF or dept of destruction. Lawyers, doctors and alike have all lost their employment and reputations standing up to them,,,, They are a agency full of liars, that use fear tactics to destroy your family, and CREATE CASES for FUNDING need that funding for administrative raises and too over pay the uneducated workers whom are NOT up to date with continued educational credits if they even have a degree in social work whom only work 2.5 days yet get paid for 5! This link I provide you is 100% the truth http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/ and BEST OF LUCK STOPPING THEM……. If you voice a concern they will just open a case on you!!!!! Do you REALLY BELIEVE that the STATE DCF INVESTIGATION done by DCF is bias of the REAL ISSUES??? Time for a 3rd party NON GOVERONMENT agency too INVESTIGATE DCF, the courts, and… Read more »

Mary
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If this is true! Its awful and unbearable.How can they live with themselves? There are better ways to make money by helping people and making positive things happen.

tinlizzieowner
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It’s true. No rational soul would believe things like this could happen without experiencing it. They ‘say’ they are helping ‘the children’, and in the overwhelming majority of the cases, the parents are drunks, dopers, and otherwise neglectful.
BUT ……….. there is a rising ‘collateral damage’ of parents who for whatever reason, don’t fit in their mold or even worse, chose to question their authority. :-{

Mary
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Amen! From day one ,been wondering how they did this without Parental consent?..They were ordered by their physician to see Gastro at childrens…then psychiatry and neuro show up? I can clearly see why they were protective and upset.Also being caring parents,wanting Justinas gastro and flu issues adressed.I understand Mito very clearly.Its in my family.Its very real folks…Its a genetic disease..Even Animals protect their young.The Pelletiers are normal.IT has been a nightmare for Justina and the family .It should have never happened.I pray it is straightened out very soon.So relieved great people are coming forward with expirtise to help.

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This exploitation of our children, elderly and disabled is accelerating at an alarming rate and tearing our families apart. Family is the foundation of our society and yet, people are getting away with this abuse with no accountability. I was wrongfully taken off guardianship for my intentions of filing criminal charges against a facility per the Dept of Protection and Advocacy for abuse/neglect and subsequent damages of my brother, a Traumatic Brain Injury survivor of 46 years. I have been threatened by all parties, threatened with a law suit by the medical director of his current facility, not knowing that the two facilities had strong ties with one another. I urge this country to take a stand and stop this. The laws are protecting those that are causing the harm and abuse. Who is protecting who? This is unconstitutional all for profiteering at everyone’s expense.

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So true Tracey, Guardianship is destroying the life of the victim and their families. The powers to be are dismantling our family, our rights , our country and our government and elected officials are doing nothing to stop it. I know they are all not bad, and there must be one who will take a stand on this critical social issue.

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.
We can not do anything with out the support of our judicial system.

Tracey Anne Miller
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Exactly, Sara! This is no different than slavery back a hundred years ago for profiteering. Yes, there are many good people in our system, however, they have have been the minority up until now, as more and more stories hit mainstream news asking for reform. Is this any better than the holocaust in Germany? We fight for people’s freedom in other countries while in our own the same thing is occurring? We fight to preserve our freedom and yet, our freedom is being taken from us. Just look at how our country is treating our Vets coming back from the wars! The Nurse Case Manager that the insurance company hired at my brother’s current place of residence, questioned me about filing criminal charges against the prior facility in 2008 saying “we are concerned about what is going to happen to you.” She then proceeded to tell me that her own… Read more »

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Unfortunately, the Pelletier case is not an isolated incident. NASGA has a growing membership of developmentally disabled young adults who have been torn from their family’s loving and caring arms and institutionalized against the family’s wishes. Unlawful and abusive guardianships and conservatorships are proliferating and it’s just going to get worse as the Boomers gray — unless we stop it. Please join NASGA and help us work for reform.

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Protect our freedoms! Justina’s parents, the judge continued, “engage in very concerning conduct that does not give this court any confidence they will comply with conditions of custody.” ….. It appears the judge may be more interested in punishing Justina’s parents than looking out for her best interest. This is happening in our courts every day. My husband is being punished. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEfPJpEqm3Q&feature=youtu.be

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This is happening all over our country to our loved ones. Guardianship has turned into an industry. I strongly believe that this is where our country is heading, “Ownership of another human being”, some are being used as test pilots I think to see how much abuse a human can take before the life is sucked out of them. The one that bothers me the most is the everyday people who work hard saving for the golden years to have it taken all away in a blink of an eye by a system that was suppose To GUARD “incompetent” people against harming themselves or others; To CONSERVE their assets and property (by means of prudent investment); and To PROTECT the taxpaying public from those individuals becoming “public charges. Adult guardianship has become a feeding trough for unethical lawyers and other “fiduciaries” appointed by the courts to protect, but many of… Read more »

Mary
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This is Horrible! How did they get your husband? Why couldnt you walk in and take him home and set up care? My Dad was in a rehab for 1 thing..he ended up with a horrible sore on his heel.I went balistic..signed him out, and set up home care earlier than expected.How did this predatory act begin? These people
Will face God.Why cant US marshalls..Military be called? This has to stop..

Sara Harvey
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Mary, It happens all the time. If I knew then what I do now, this would have never ever have happened. You take your loved to a hospital, nursing home or to get medical attentions in trust and they end up taking them from you. You were very lucky. was setting up home care through the VA, not knowing I was being watched and things were taken out of context. I complained about his care and they did not like it. Typical to all guardianships cases, they want the family out of the way. So, 1st thing they do is restrict visits. I have not seen my husband since 7/3/2013. The county doctor who I have not spoken to in over 4 years said either my visits stop or he would resign. The county guardian sided with the county doctor.

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Sara I was so fortunate! I am very familiar with health care.My Dad was recieving some from private insurance and some from VA confusing his DRs.He recieved care from Brockton ma VA..and w.Roxbury Ma. VA..They were outstanding..top of the line.Got down to business.We were being jerked around with a horrible infection and heart problems..they had pure pennicillian..which you cannot find anymore because it works..they had great top of the line bandaging ect..care..,no waitingHelp. home care service.I am so so sorry for your expirience.I love Mass Va..and st josephs manor.I am horrified with what is happening with Justina.For the most part.Mass has outstanding brilliant Drs ..with top of the line health care.This is why residents are so shocked.I believe it is that one Dr at childrens..and I heard no chief of staff was present..????

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Sara seems like your state VA should visit ours ..I just dont understand why people could be so cruel.You live once why not kindness and their best??

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Its strange how one facility or state can differ from another so profoundly..why wouldnt other vets help? They were all vets.This place I went to had people in uniform helping in and out of the car..very clean..great Drs and emergency care..heart surgery ..they saved my Dads life..they solved a very stubborn infection..got right down to business..I couldnt believe how good they were.Kind also..what state and why would vets do this to another vet? This is awful..my Dad was one of the last WW2 men..passed in 2012

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With life becoming more and more specialized, avoiding stress and discontent depends more and more upon identifying and engaging in the types of efforts most suited to our skills and personalities.

kong1967
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I saw someone on Fox say something about them doing research on that girl, and that would explain why they don’t want to give her up. She’s a case study. A subject. They’re more interested in studying her than they are of curing her. After all, why else would they ban the original doctor from treating her at the hospital? He was at the first hospital where the original diagnosis was made, then he moved to the second one where she is at now. But he is not allowed to see the patient.

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The accusation by BCH is that this is a case of Munchausen by Proxy – meaning that one or both of the parents was making her sick on purpose so that they can receive attention. I would think, however, that after a period of time when the girl gets worse and not better when away from the parents, that that would indicate this is not Munchausen by Proxy. Personally, I think it’s become a case of Boston CYA and “we can’t admit we were wrong.”

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Yeah, I agree.

Parsley
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Excellent deduction! Wish the courts would make that connection.

Mary
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A MBP expert spoke and said that condition some parents (usually the mother) have are very rare.He also stated both Pelletier parents didnt fit the criteria for munchausens.What the judge didnt hear when Dr,Korson spoke last year…Mito patients have several specialists..due to many problems.This is very true.We have mito in the family.You have seizures..and related neuro,Gastro issues..your mito Dr..then sight and hearing..the list goes on..blood,pancreas liver..ect..so much involvement.Many levels and complexs.The Drs are doing a great job at controlling it for some.

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was this a fox news consultant? How could a MBP “expert” conclude this without having records etc? We do not know what the judge knows. We are not privy to all of the information

Mary
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With the facts they have,the Pelletieres do not fit MBP.They did not subject their daughter to several un needed tests,or create illness.They simply went to the hospital as ordered by their physician to see gastro.This is what was said by the expert.The culprits here are obviously the Drs at childrens who should have respected the case by calling Justinas Dr.s…No they just come up with a disease in 12 hours that cannot be proven…one which they are doing research on…how convienient is that? Then custody taken without contacting other family members..no investigation..taken by Mass,of a Connecticut resident???? Nothing about this is even legal.She should be returned today..It should be null and void truley. I hope Childrens fires the people who caused this.

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Do you have access to this girl’s medical records? You do not know her true health status right now. There is no proof of any decline. MBP can take years to recover if in fact she is a victim of MBP.

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Obviously I don’t have access to her records. I did read a news report of the case that said she’d been getting better before she went to BCH, and that after BCH she’s getting worse. As to MBP taking a long time to recover from, maybe it can, but how long does this girl have?

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She is allegedly has a mitrochondrial disorder which is suspect in adverse vaccine reactions. In 2008, Federal authorities conceded a connection between a young girl’s (Hannah Poling) autistic symptoms and the vaccines she received. In Hannah’s case, she suffers from a mitochondrial disorder — a dysfunction in basic cell metabolism. The Federal Government compensated the Poling family out of the tax-payer’s pocket via Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1721109,00.html. (VAERs was set up by Congress to pay vaccine-damaged folks. Vaccine Manufacturers, like Monsato, enjoy protection from lawsuits courtesy of our government.) This month, the CDC reported that 1 in 68 US children has autism and has this to say about mitrochondrial disorders: “We know that sometimes children with mitochondrial diseases seem to be developing as they should, but around toddler or preschool age, they regress. The disease was there all the time, but something happens that “sets it off”.… Read more »

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I thought they were accusing the parents of abuse. Giving your child vaccines is not abuse. I mean, they want you to vaccinate your children.

I don’t have a favorable view on vaccines. I have seen studies that show that people that get vaccines get sick easier. I say let your kid play in the dirt and the sand box and stop spraying their hands with anti-bacterial crap. It builds their immune system. Not to suggest you don’t want your kid to be clean, lol. Just not obsessively taking away contacts that help build the immune system.

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The diseases such as polio are still there.People just dont become cripple or die from them due to the vaccines. The lesser of the evil is the vaccine.Even a naturopathic Dr will tell you to get vaccines.Your body then has the defense of these debilitating ,crippling diseases.Some people may have a reaction to preservatives or compounds in them.very rare.Some flue shots can be ordered without this.

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I don’t have a problem with certain vaccines that you get once in your life. But I don’t get flu shots, for example, and I never get the flu. I used to every single year until one year it just stopped….completely.

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I am one of the people who has to get the flu shot..I have .a genetic disease.This year healthy 20 somethings died from flu complications..after getting the shot for their children..but not themself.The flu kills.You can still get a flu but much milder.The shot will not make you ill..It is dead virus.The benifits outweigh the risk for most people.Even Drs get the shot.I do know many people who do not get it.They usually get very ill.They have been lucky so far.

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That’s fine for anyone who wants to do it. Maybe I will start when I get a little older and become more prone to getting the flu. I’m not someone who fights against people being able to get vaccinations.

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Parsley actully ,autism is originally traced back to sweden ,it is genetic..the grandchildren of famine survivors started with this disease.Mitochondria disease is also a genetic disease,A lot of research has been done at MGh and other medical research facilities.The government is well aware of this.

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You have no proof of this

kong1967
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And? I never said it was a fact and I presented it as speculation.

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CPS Juvenile Court Crime Ring Operates Under Color of Law – Attorney Judge Activists Speak Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXINizSj7E&feature=player_embedded

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Can he get this poor girl free before the hospital kills her??

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What I don’t understand is that this child is a resident of Conn not MA? How does MADCF even have jurisdiction over her. If Conn has decided that they have not found evidence of abuse then how is it even possible for MA to have this power over this family?

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Been asking this since day 1.I even called Connecticut asking for help..explaining what was happening to their residents.Seems they did nothing.

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David R. DeMaso, MD, is the head of psychiatry at BCH. He is also a professor at Harvard, and is a member of Harvard’s Psychiatry Department Executive Committee. He could be friends with this attorney and trying to save Harvard’s reputation.

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agreed…harvard may have deep pockets but the “reputation’ is priceless and we can’t have it dragged through the political mud can we ??

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Oh yes we can!

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Not to mention the reputation of Children’s Hospital in Boston. What a clusterf**K.

What parent would bring their child to Children’s Hospital now? Or, for that matter a Massachusetts Hospital?

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Glad Mr. Dershowitz is taking the case. My question is, since when do we need a Law to retain our Parental Rights? That is counter negative. And not Constitutional.

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states consider your children property as of 1995 new laws, states only allow you temporary rights until you are politically incorrect read every link, every chapter, and know this is a NATIONAL problem
http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/

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Stupid Mark Levin acted totally unaware of this case, even flippent, when it was brought up on his show a few days ago. Go cry about your dogs Mark Levin! How can he be so uninformed and be “the grest one”? Head out of your “bunker” man.

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He doesn’t claim to be the great one. That is a nickname given him by others. Nor does he claim to be all knowing.
Do you hold yourself to the same standard of perfection?

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It is after all a State Issue, Mark usually remarks, on Federal issues. That is his expertise. And I would say this, if this is your State, not you personally Mark, why do you let this happen? It is a State issue.. Get the Commie bums out.

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I read the Justina story with horror, but also understand that cases like this have been happening at Children’s Hospital and DCF for years. It was reported that there are 400 or so every year at Children’s. What makes this unique is that this is public. We can all now see the dirty crap that Children’s and DCF do to families.

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It happened to my family in nearly the same manner ar Shands Hospital in Florida 1997. In that year we were case number 297. Before the internet, no one knew these cases happened all over the country. Now it is finally coming out more but not enough. I beat Florida, after a huge secret six month fight, but not without very powerful help from very high up government officials and lots and lots of money. Then I was warned to leave the state and not come back for a long time or my enemies would try again. And they did before I could get out, but we were on some sort of mysterious protection list for a little while as we were told by Ocala police. So we got out and left all property behind to sell through friends. It was a terror.

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OnoMo, I’m so sorry you went through this. Even once is too common and you are correct, there is a pattern. The Pelletiers may need to know your name in the future. Their family friends can be found on two FB pages devoted to the story. The one that includes the hospital name is the more active one. (I don’t think we are allowed to post links here.)

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I do not know why these horror shows are happening.If they are money driven,as some people say.There are much better honorable ways to make money,than hurting people and deception.America is better than this!

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Mary, just because you are humble and fair does not mean the world is. DCF is one of many state agency that have found a heart breaking dishonest loop hole to better their financial systems, paychecks, benefits, and bonuses. These agencies will NOT change until the general populace takes a STRONG STAND against them and votes OUT every politician who do NOTHING, as well as needing to file complaints at the justice commissions against the judges NOT respecting law now following it…. It will take the ENTIRE COUNTRY to stand as one… NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN IN 21ST CENTURY AMERICA…….

Mary
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Dear God.why do they do this?

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You are sure right about that one Shpilkus

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Is this a testament of the “dirty crap” the hospital does? You people are uninformed and brainwashed. Get some fresh air and open your eyes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO73FYBJsSA

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Many have asked why BCH would do this. It’s very simple. Hannah Poling also has mitochondrial disorder. Her parents (a neurosurgeon and a nurse/lawyer) received a multimillion dollar vaccine injury settlement in 2010, after Hannah had nine vaccines in one day and then immediately developed symptoms of severe autism. Public health officials said at that time that Hannah’s problems were the result not merely of her vaccines, but of a ‘rare underlying mitochondrial disorder’, although it is unclear if she was diagnosed with her mitochondrial disorder prior to receiving the vaccines. Many in the autism community at the time believed that mitochondrial disorders might not be all that rare. Evidence over the last decade and a half is clear — autism is iatrogenic (mercury), and so is mitochondrial damage (aluminum). Doctors and parents are being sent a chilling message, and if no price is paid by the people responsible for… Read more »

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Glad to see you posted this. The more people that know about the pile of money being “protected” by silence, the better.

Thank goodness Hannah Poling’s parent were a nurse/lawyer combo… they couldn’t be stopped.

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I do not understand..I know there are many complexes of Mito..we have family members with exact DNA complex matches ..born 20 something yrs later..had different vaccines.Then a totally different person with aspergers autism..has a different father..autism runs in fathers family rampidly..they are from sweden.

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Im being shown different research information from geneticist..and researchers..drs..I guess.????

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Continue to speak loud and clear against the judge and DCF. This young ‘ ego ‘ driven doctor at Children’s needs to hand in his license to practice, as do many other so called ‘ experts ‘

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Dershowitz is one of the vanishingly small numbers of honorable liberals. I often disagree with him, but he’s a good man. I’m glad he’s willing to help out in this case.

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He isn’t a good man. At all. He is subhuman. Didn’t he just say that he is pro-choice? He doesn’t mind that babies have their spinal cords clipped? That’s not a guy with any honor.

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This is just the broken clock syndrome. That’s all.

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Good for him; regardless of his political affiliations, Dershowitz is standing
by the constitution. One has to admire him. Probably even more so because he is a democrat.

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Dershowitz said that the Gag order is clearly unconstitutional-finally someone has cleared that up. Judge Joe Johnston needs to be impeached and then placed in jail for what he has done. His continual disregard for the law is disgusting…..

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He needs to be put on a very public and open trial, then sent to jail for many years. He should be charged with using the Constitution as toilet paper, among other things!

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Judge Johnston is only one of hundreds

http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/

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Every DCF in every state needs to have their caseloads examined regularly by an independent, unpaid, and unbiased committee of ordinary citizens. I’d do it. In a heartbeat. And the committee should have the authority to shut DCF down when irregularities are found. DCF has WAAAAY too much power, and they abuse it all the time.

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Very well said, I agree with you 300%!
http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/

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This horrifies me to no end.

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What we can do is flood the governor of that states office with emails and phone calls for him to do something about this injustice. The governor can stop this and return her to her family.

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At some point, I hope the parents can sue the bat snot out of every single person and entity that is responsible for this horror. May that hospital have to close it’s doors and that liberal hell hole of a state have to close it’s doors too.
And it wouldn’t bother me one bit to see the judge handcuffed and led away in an orange jump suit.

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What was done by Children’s Hospital and Judge Joe Johnson is criminal. This was not a professional error, it was pure spite and that is actionable. Judge Joe should be looking for a good attorney right about now.

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A good attorney wouldn’t represent his sorry life. He deserves the dregs of that profession.

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Shpilkus

Are you suggesting that he represent himself babdbadlibs?

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In a world that is fair, he’d be the only one who would.

Mary
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99% of Mass residents are very very angry over this case.I am a Mass resident..Due to 2 Drs with very poor judgement,and a line of other people in this sno-ball of horrid events..that are completely unlawful, immoral, and inexcusable.We have a state full of brilliant wonderful Drs.Who shouldnt be underminded due to one bad one without expirience.We have a great state.We are very unhappy with how this case has been handled.We cannot believe this.Most earlist supporters are from Mass.Please do not Judge the entire state.It is a beautiful state with great people.They save many lives and help many people.You have no idea.

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You’re positive it’s 99%? If it was anything near that amount this would have ended already. If it is 99% and is still going on, the residents are clueless and or hapless.

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MA residents are CLUELESS, FEARFUL, and out right DUMB. They believe everything told by the media without researching for themselves. MA is a Commonwealth a modern day communist state, and operates under the very laws of it’s meaning. MA residents believe ” Commonwealth ” as an out dated fancy term when it very well is NOT…
http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/

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I didn’t believe Mary knew what in the heck she was talking about.
She was just being an apologist for a very bad place.

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Good for Alan! Alan Dershowitz and Pat Caddel are about the only two Democrats I have any respect for.

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This case make me believe this is an horrific example of power abuse… and constitutional disdain.
But I trust on Alan Dershowitz and now I hope for the best.
Thank you Alan, …and my best wishes to this family!

tinlizzieowner
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If the father had not violated the ‘gag order’ (that Child Protective Services puts on everything), and taken this to the ‘court’ of public opinion (aka Fox News), he would have never had a chance to get his daughter back. :-{
Now that there is a big shot lawyer on his side, CPS will run for cover (their ass).
Cases like this happen every day. You question their authority even in the slightest, and you will find out. My family has 1st hand experience in this. :-{

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Actually it was Glenn Beck first on the roster who brought this to MSM attention.

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

It was Megyn Kelly and FOX that put the heavy artillery behind it. wink
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big time Beck donor and subscriber he just doesn’t have the market share audience to do what Fox did.

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A woman named Sue Runnells on the Free Justina Pelletier From Boston Children’s Hospital Facebook page researched an found how many stories have been done and by whom.

“Mar 28 at 4:50pm
Out of curiosity, I did some research about media coverage. There is an enormously important story continuing in Mass., Justina Pelletier. I wondered how many of the major news outlets have covered this story, so I went to the various web sites and searched for “justina pelletier.” Here are the results:
CNN 0 stories
ABCNews 9 stories, beginning 2/10/14
NBCNews 0 stories
CBSNews 1 story
FoxNews 17 stories, beginning 12/23/13
MSNBC 0 stories
PBS 0 stories
NYTimes.com 0 stories
BostonGlobe.com 33 stories, + included in top stories of 2013
TheBlaze.com 37 stories, 11/20/13

tinlizzieowner
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Which of the above media outlets do you think got this story the most NATIONAL exposure?

Laurel
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Laurel

I’m convinced that every CPS office in every city, county, and state is out of control and incompetent. My mother investigated them on the Grand Jury and I did again six years later. The abuses were in office after office. All findings were so horrific that they went to the governors office. Nothing was done and there still has been no oversight put in place.
In the case of Justina there appears to be collusion between judge and cps.

tinlizzieowner
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I have found the same to be true.
It seems they don’t even have to comply with their own regulations in court? All they have to do is say “it’s in the child’s best interests” and they can destroy a family, ‘facts’ be damned. :-[
In my daughter’s case, my first instinct was to go to the ‘media’ because things were just wrong? They lied to my face, they altered testimony by the children, they flat out violated heir own rules and regs and the ‘court’ gave then a blank check to do it. I spent $30,000 in virtually useless legal fees trying to get my daughter a FAIR day in court. I should have taken the whole thing to media, in the beginning. It’s too late now. :-{

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Laurel
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Laurel

Thanks for the link!

insider
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insider

Your first hand experience sound similar to this?
http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/

tinlizzieowner
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tinlizzieowner

Precisely. Only we’re dealing with the state of Indiana (though it doesn’t make a difference). :-{

Mk Jessup
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Mk Jessup

There is absolutely no reason or justification for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to have custody of that young lady, it is documented fact that since the State muscled it’s way into this situation, that Justina’s health has deteriorated. And why on Earth would it be necessary for ARMED GUARDS to be present when her family is allowed their once-a-week visit to see her? If these are not the actions of a fascist police state, kindly tell us what is?

Alan Dershowitz knows the law in and out, and if anyone can administer a well deserved legal ass-kicking to those goons and thugs in Massachusetts, he’s the man to do it.

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old_crank
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old_crank

Didn’t I read somewhere that the girl’s medical care had been returned to Tufts, but she was still in the custody of Child and Family Services?

patriot077
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patriot077

I think the state reneged on letting Tufts take over. There seems to be growing commentary on this and I don’t know what is credible and what might be purely gossip at this point.

Renee Kyndra Nowacki
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Renee Kyndra Nowacki

Tufts has been trying to schedule an appointment for Justina, but Wayside (the facility she’s currently at) refuses to do it. Check the Free Justina Pelletier… (sorry, it’s a long name) and Miracle for Justina pages on Facebook. They’re both run by people who are in contact with her family; Miracle was put up by the family then taken down because of the gag order, but with that gone, it’s back up again.

patriot077
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patriot077

Thank you for that source of accurate information. What they have done to that family just sickens me. There is also an incident in Alaska that sounds eerily similar.

Beth Pulsifer Anderson
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Beth Pulsifer Anderson

I also appears there was some offer for Connecticut child services to take over her psychiatric care but they don’t think she has a psychiatric problem. They faced a horrible dilemma – take her allow Massachusetts to make the problem go away quietly or refuse to be in collusion with MA DCF and be as unethical as they are. What a horrible choice. Tufts very much wants her back. It is incredibly rare for a doctor to say anything in public and Justina’s doctor is pleading for her return.

Mary
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Mary

Because her Dr knows she has Mito and knows what she needs for treatment.I know this,I have mito.I can see and understand clearly exactly how she ended up in the condition she is currently in.Her Dr also knows this.Every other mito family knows his too.But they will not listen.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Dershowitz is amenable to logic and reason. He often places far too much weight on factors that cause him to take the left’s position, but he understands the law quite well.

Mary
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Mary

He is amazing ,honorable,admirable, and true. A real person with humanitarianism.The real deal!

sjmom
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sjmom

Someone with more power than the judge needs to step in and put an end to this sham by the court and Children’s Hospital.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

I seem to remember bullyboy c-linton and his reno sending in armed agents, AFTER a federal appeals court denied reno’s request for a change of custody to return Gonzalez to his father in Cuba.
Where are the liberal lunatics now?

Siobhan_McCallen
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Siobhan_McCallen

It’s nice that Dershowitz has made the offer, and I hope they can take him up on it. Part of the problem the family had was that they had FOUND a great lawyer to help them, but DCF pressured the judge to refuse to allow the family’s lawyer represent them. Dershowitz can’t do them much good if the judge refuses to allow him onto the case.

Stehekin912
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Stehekin912

Maybe Dershowitz can have the judge removed first, then real law can prevail.

patriot077
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patriot077

He has enough fame to get that judge very bad press if he doesn’t follow the law.

PNWShan
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PNWShan

Whoa! I didn’t hear that detail about the lawyer!
That’s like kangaroo courts in totalitarian states.

Siobhan_McCallen
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Siobhan_McCallen

“The judge will also rule later this week on whether Mathew Staver, the Dean of Liberty University School of Law, and founder and chairman of Liberty Council, an international nonprofit organization, is permitted to be the Pelletier’s official lawyer. Staver was appointed late February after a billionaire benefactor came forward on the Glenn Beck radio show with a sponsorship to ensure that Justina gets the best possible legal representation. The DCF is opposing the request.”

From http://nasga-stopguardianabuse.blogspot.com/2014/03/dismay-as-justina-pelletier-custody.html

Mary
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Mary

The DCF and the judge should not have any say in who their lawyer is.I do not understand this ?

insider
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insider

They are entitled under federal and state law to be represented by ANY PRIVATELY FOUNDED ATTORNEY. They can only fight a ‘ conflict of interest ‘ which would be any and all counsel willing to represent the family. DCF DOES NOT WANT THEM REPRESENTED… Family needs ONLY MA attorney whom has DCF success rating and knowledge, the only attorney whom specializes in DCF cases, and the only attorney DCF fears in state….

patriot077
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patriot077

This is such good news! I cannot believe the egregious actions by the medical professionals, the hospital, the DFC, the judge on this case. I can’t help but believe that they are making a united effort to protect that young punk neurologist who wouldn’t even comply with admitting her to see her former Tufts Dr. but instead re-diagnose her. I read he was from the Netherlands and maybe they do that over there – can we expect to be treated this way in the future?
I feel so badly for Justina who has had one very long teen year stolen from her and pray that her deteriorated health is not permanent.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

The Netherlands, well, that’s the land of suicide, is it not? Isn’t it there they have now made it legal for parents to have their children (not necessarily newborns) be put down like a sick dog?
I hope the doctor can be sued into utter and total oblivion.

patriot077
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patriot077

Good memory, bbl.
I knew they were a very permissive society, but I couldn’t remember for sure, so I found this link.

http://time.com/#7565/belgium-euthanasia-law-children-assisted-suicide/

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

“Belgium became the first country in the world to remove any age restrictions on euthanasia, after an emotional debate which split the medical profession over the best way to treat a terminally ill child with a desire to end his or her life.”
What “child” has a desire to end their life? This is all about the adults who have caved into a side of evil they know nothing about.
This is coming soon to a neighborhood near us, especially in this state, hell bent on normalizing evil.

patriot077
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patriot077

Yes. It is for the convenience of the parents and economies for the health “care” system. God help us all, it gives me nightmares.
I know it would be oh so extremely heartrending to see your child suffer so, but I could not “put them down” like an animal. I can’t stand to do it to my pets and I’ve had to do it twice. I hope never to have to again.

Mary
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Mary

If this is where SHE is from..and these behaviors are normal to her.Perhaps the judge should ask if she have a neuro psyche evaluation.She is capable of cruelty..there fore should not be working with children and families in the states.We do not ALLOW cruel and abusive treatment.

Mary
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Mary

She is ill.Has been denied her family,her Drs ,her medical treatment,her friends,her dog,school.religion,holidays with family,her 90 yr old grandparents,her home,her skating,her life as she knew itThey have neglected her and no doubt emotionally traumatised her.This has gone for too long.Makes me ill to think about it.

patriot077
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patriot077

I know she is ill and I pray that the deterioration of her physical condition is not permanent. I can’t believe this is happening in our country yet every day it seems we learn of something that is beyond the realm of our belief.
I’m glad Alan Dershowitz recognizes the travesty for what it is and has the clout to make big waves.

Mary
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Mary

Very Well said!

wales777
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wales777

Me too nibblesyble!

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

That made me jump up and cheer! Praise the Lord, I hope this extra bit of help and publicity is just the thing to get that young lady out of that unsafe place!

kssturgis62
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kssturgis62

I know and I totally agree. The Lord will be shown through this process. His mighty hand with his Prayer Warriors will give HIM HIS day. I believe that.

wales777
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wales777

I hope he also decides to help sue the pants off CPS and gets the judge disbarred.

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

Me too!

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

Me three!

OnoMo
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OnoMo

Me four.

badbadlibs
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badbadlibs

smile

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