Allen West on NDAA: Military has NO right to detain US citizens or legal aliens – Also, SOPA

This is similar to a clip that I posted a couple of weeks ago where West actually read from the legislation itself making his very point. But because of all the chatter out there about it, I wanted to post this Q&A where West answered this question again a couple of nights ago:



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As a bonus clip, Allen West weighs in on SOPA, saying he’ll vote to ensure the Internet stays free and secure:

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35 thoughts on “Allen West on NDAA: Military has NO right to detain US citizens or legal aliens – Also, SOPA

    1. That’s basically a minor re-hashing of Lieberman’s “Terrorist Expatriation Act” from the 111th Congress. That bill, thankfully, never made it out of committee, so hopefully the “Enemy Expatriation Act” will also die in committee.

        1. No person should be stripped of their nationality (citizenship) for committing a crime against the United States (“engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States”) without first having the benefit of a trial in a United States District Court to determine if, beyond reasonable doubt, the person becoming subject to expatriation did, in fact, commit the act(s) alleged.

          If you look at the law that it seeks to amend (8 USC § 1481), section (a)(7) of that law says the following (emphasis added):

          committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.

          “If and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction”. All other subsections of section (a) are all actions wherein a person is voluntarily relinquishing their citizenship rather than having it stripped from them by the State Department, presuming they can show by a preponderance of the evidence that the person who becomes subject to expatriation committed those acts with the intention in mind of no longer wanting to be a US citizen.

  1. The language in NDAA simply says that the “requirement” to detain does not apply to US Citizens. There is no preclusion to them detaining a US Citizen indefinitely if they choose to. None.

  2. All of you clamoring for Marco Rubio for president, please realize that he is not eligible. Yes he was born in Miami and he is an American citizen, but when he was born, neither of his parents were American citizens. I know they fudged over that requirement for Obama, but do you really think they will allow that for a Republican?

  3. A real leader and a man of conviction. He is one very few that would stand up and fight for the American people, Conservatives of course. I love this man. No one is perfect but Mr. West is very close to it. God Bless Allen West, his family and all true Conservatives everywhere. Times look very grim, keep your chin up my brethren. We will not fail!

  4. Wow. where was this at? Doesn’t look like your typical #OWS ragamuffins. Sharp kids with good questions. I’m glad West was ready for them.

  5. It’s amazing how what is going on today, mirrors the period prior to the Revolutionary War. They hated the British Government and soldiers with the same hatred we have for this rogue government. They mocked them, they threw things at them, they called them names, just as we do. I hope we win more peacefully, but we must fight, like they did.

  6. SOPA is an example of infringing on the rights of some to protect the property of the elitist few. We have copyright laws, that’s all they need. If they’re concerned about people stealing their property, I suggest they quit making products or figure out a way to protect themselves.

    If my house is robbed, they don’t make a police presence at everyone’s house on my street. They tell me to get an alarm or a dog.

    This preferential treatment of some at the expense of others needs to stop. It’s like the unconstitutional hate crime laws. They’re blatantly unconstitutional. Unfortunately those before us didn’t stop this. We are going to have to fight for those that follow us.

  7. Of those two, the one that has the more far-reaching, negative unintended consequences is SOPA, so I’m glad to hear he will break from his Republican colleague in not supporting that bill.

  8. Allen West… a real American hero. Assuming America is still standing in 2016… I can’t wait for a Allen West/Marco Rubio ticket (either order is fine). God bless you Sir.

  9. If we can’t trust Allen West on the NDAA…who in the **** can we trust. We need the WESTS, RUBIOS, PAULS ((Rand) and ilk deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep in our system…..a high congressionalonic ! !

  10. He’ll work to insure the internet “is free and secure.” The word “secure” makes me uncomfortable because whenever the Government passes legislation to protect Americans from anything, it ends up usurping one or many of our liberties.

    There are available, already, several private online businesses which can effectively secure our computers’ safety; and it seems like all Government does, really, is suppress business opportunities in the free market.

  11. Why is it that folks simply cannot see what is coming. If Obama remains, the USA is toast, history. If one of the liberal republican candidates gets in, we won’t be much better off. None of our conservative candidates display any leadership capabilities.
    2016 or 2020 is too late for Col. West. We need him now. He has the LEADERSHIP qualities so desperately needed. Unfortunately, he is viewing the future like most Americans. We’ll muddle thru and be ok. That is not what is going to happen.

    1. I do take exception about our current crop of candidates not showing any leadership qualities… that’s simply not true.

      But I do agree with the assertion that none of them inspire and fire people up like Allen West, Marco Rubio, Jim DeMint, etc. America needs a hero… a Tea Party conservative cut from the same cloth as Reagan to emerge (now would be great). Sadly, we don’t have someone in this group who inspires in that way… but a couple of the candidates could make a difference in this election… if given a chance. You’re right… though premature, we need a West, Rubio, DeMint, Lee, etc. – someone who would have solidified the conservative vote.

      The key here is to win the senate and house too… at the very least. Maobama must be stopped at all costs.

  12. Let’s just cancel the executive branch for four years, and start over with our Tea Party congressman in the 2016 primaries…

    /wishful thinking

  13. Good stuff!
    I hope I get the chance to vote for LtCol. West in a national election.
    It would be great if he were on the ticket this year.

    1. Yes, yes it would. We have a pretty weak crop of candidates here, I’m sorry to say. But, as you know, he just got elected and didn’t feel it was his place to be running for President right off the bat.

      I respect West’s logic on that one. If only BHO had felt the same way.

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