An Air Force wife’s rant about the “military industrial complex”

I’m a very occasional blogger. My “occasions” are when someone gets me so riled up that I have to fire off a rant about it. This post was triggered by the growing frustration with Congress (specifically the Senate) at their inability to pass a budget, along with what I’ve learned from my husband (Air Force SrA) about the funding for the military and some comments on a CNN video about al-Awlaki’s son being killed in Yemen. The last factor was truly the catalyst, and I had to get some things off my chest.

Sigh.

I stopped blogging because I needed to channel my rage and frustration into more productive outlets (plus I’m terrible at posting on a regular basis :-P). But I need to get this off my chest because some things MUST be corrected.

I’m a conservative, both socially and fiscally. I’m also an Air Force wife, so I’m a huge supporter of our military’s Constitutional role of killing people and breaking stuff in a semi-civilized manner. So, my position on getting our national finances in order is that we don’t need to gut our military to pay for entitlements. There is a Constitutional mandate for protecting our nation, but there isn’t one for our, ahem, “social safety net.”

The last few years have been an irresponsible, immature adventure in national budgeting. Congress hasn’t passed a real budget in over 900 days, and in the meantime, they’ve accumulated mountains of debt and expanded entitlements like there’s no tomorrow. And, for them, there doesn’t seem to be a tomorrow, when the bill will come due. Entrenched Congress members get to spend taxpayer dollars to enrich themselves and their campaign chests, and when the public finally gets fed up with them, they get a cushier retirement than a union boss.

But enough about the need for term limits. Here’s what we have now: No actual budget, debt growing exponentially, no real discussion about entitlement reform, and all this as the Baby Boomer Bomb is about to go off and blow us sky-high into fiscal insanity. And what’s Washington’s solution to all of this?

Why, cut the military’s budget, of course! We don’t need the latest gadgets for our military or overpriced equipment! Besides, isn’t it time we stopped being the world’s police force?

And here is where I part ways with the weenie liberals and the Paulbots. Yes, they have the same goal, even though they have different reasons for achieving that goal. But you know what? Both groups are delusional. Liberals believe that if we stop using our military to kill people that try to harm us and break their stuff to smithereens, then the world will love us and everyone will ride a unicorn that solely subsists on Skittles. (Who will make the Skittles, I have no idea.) Paulbots are just as insane with their belief that we don’t need to protect ourselves abroad at all, and that should we face an enemy marching into our territory, they’ll go home as soon as we start air-dropping Reason magazines on their heads. After all, the world will listen to a good, civil discourse, will it not?

It’s ridiculous what passes for “serious thought” these days. Facts are facts, and human nature is predictable. There’s a reason Sun Tzu’s Art of War is still applicable in today’s world. To defend himself against enemies who would take his life, the ancient warrior got a sword and a stone to keep it sharp. To defend himself and his country against those who would take not only his life but countless innocents, the American warrior gets a gun that can take down enemies quickly and efficiently. And when his country takes away that efficient equipment for all the wrong reasons, the American warrior fights on but knows he can’t do the job as well as he could.

The “military industrial complex,” as it is derisively known to liberals and Paulbots, is one of the reasons we have the most advanced military in the world. The innovations that come from it not only impact our safety and security, but also our quality of life. (You’re reading this on the Internet, which originated in the U.S. military.) The last thing America needs is something like The Siege of Vienna, where the local populace has to rise up to repel the barbarians at the gates because there isn’t enough of a military. The Viennese repulsion of the Ottomans is often described as “miraculous.” Do the liberals and Paulbots really want to depend on divine intervention?

Also, I find it infuriating that Congress is putting entitlements above protecting the lives of the men and women fighting for our country. There is a direct correlation between the money we spend on our troops’ safety and how many of them survive. Meanwhile, it’s not as clear what LBJ’s “Great Society” or “The War on Poverty” is getting us besides that mountain of debt.

Our Constitution mandates that we have a military. That same document and the American spirit have turned it into the most professional, most advanced, and the BEST fighting force the world has ever seen.

Do your job, Congress, and fund them.



***Pookysgirl is cross posting at The Right Scoop and her original can be found at her blog, Misfired Neurons***

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Anonymous
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Perry’s history indicates that his instincts are to enact forced vaccinations.

Cain wants to introduce a national sales tax, without removing the IRS.

RP wants to return to the Constitution, which would mean no more funding for Islamic counties, or anti-American groups (ie. George Soros).

Also, it means liberating Israel.

Tell me RS,

You are obviously bright; do you think a liberated America would look like a weak America?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

We are on a fiscally unsustainable path. Paul’s proposal keeps our military expense 5 times greater than any nation on earth. The only way out of this fiscal insanity is to get rid of all debt as soon as possible. NONE of the candidates, except Paul, have touched on cutting spending in a serious manner. And woe to America, we WILL become non-interventionalists one way or another. Either through a Paul administration, or the collapse of this countries economic infrastructure. Through peace or chaos, the choice is ours.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Fist, she name calls, then misrepresents the libertarian / constitutional position. Perhaps a better ‘channel’ for her ‘rage and frustration’ would be to read I Sam 8 and ask herself why the Hebrews wanted a king. Was it for welfare, or was it for warfare? (She might also want to do a search for ‘military’ in the constitution.) And, once she grasps the dangers inherent in having a king, or unlimited government, then we can talk about how libertarians would respond to terrorism. And you RS, how horrific! If a group is threatening to kill you it is reasonable for you to kill them first, is it not? But, a president ordering the killing of an individual, without a war being enacted by congress is a very dangerous precedent. Do you understand there is a great gulf between a person acting to defend themselves and the government acting – the… Read more »

Josh
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Josh

1 Sam 8 is about a nation wanting a king so that they can be like everyone else. God and Samuel warn them about the consequences, but the people want a king anyway. The first part of the chapter says that they want a king to judge them the way Samuel had. This sounds like domestic policy. Yes, it says “a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight …”, but you are ignoring the first part. “to lead” would be welfare and “to go out before us” would be warfare.

Anonymous
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Yes Josh, welfare & warfare. Both are necessary at times, too.

It breaks my heart to see patriotism supersede respect for life & property. I love that a country has a constitution that respects property. It wounds me when a government disregards that property.

I am a huge fan of the ‘goodness’ and discipline Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell has shown in his life. I am disappointed in how the government jeopardizes men like him.

I believe in volition over force, courage over fear.

And, people who desire a strong military state at the taxpayer’s expense are choosing force to assuage their fears.

This woman loves her husband. I get it. Her frustrations are just misallocated. Go in, win, get out, or add another star to the flag.

Josh
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Josh

In today’s world, I do not think we can have diplomacy without a strong military. It just would not work.

On the other hand, you stated my personal military philosophy exactly. “Go in, win, get out, or add another star to the flag.”

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Imagine if the constitution was respected. Microsoft, Yahoo, Intel, McDonald’s, Sisco and others could contract Blackwater (XE Company), or other private security companies to defend their people and property worldwide. The Red Cross and other charities could even use their services. The government already uses them so why not cut out the inefficient government middle man? There could even be ‘security insurance’ for frequent travelers or small businesses. If you add up the money the government confiscates from fortune 100 companies and instead let it flow in the free market everybody would be better off – worldwide. Yes, if the constitution was followed diplomats probably wouldn’t be taking other diplomats out to eat at Alinea, but security personnel would probably be wearing Pinnacle’s Dragon Skin armor (which currently they are banned from wearing although some special forces who protect VIP’s wear anyway). Liberty to Creativity to Industry to Wealth. So,… Read more »

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Anonymous

Amen! Pookysgirl you took the words right out of my mouth. Thank God for the military or there would be no free USA to talk about or provide a “social safety” in violation of the constitution. The social safety net should be provided by local service and church groups not the federal government. You go girl and thank you for your family’s service. I lost a brother-in-law in Viet Nam and service in the military affects the whole family.

Anonymous
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Yes, imagine what the church could do for the poor if unhampered by the state.

And, imagine what well regulated militias (the constitutional ideal) could do for life & liberty around the world.

Our SEALS could help free N. Korean prisoners. Some of our militias could protect Sudanese Christians. There are so many possibilities when individual militias are free to act ‘American’.

John
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I think the more serious Libertarians aren’t actually convinced that dropping copies of Reason on anybody would do the trick. They’re more of the mind that they should defend themselves with whatever they’ve got that’s stockpiled. For the military types (myself and GW1/OEF/OIF vet), there probably is quite a bit of merit in withdrawal. The world being “complicated” is fine, but examining our meddling from the 50’s on, it’s very slim pickins as to our foreign policy successes overthrowing various dictators here and there. Our latest batch, Egypt and Libya are surely going to turn into unmitigated disasters, as did our efforts in Palestine. I’ll give you that having bases throughout the world certainly make it easier to project power, but at a huge cost (look into what we lease bases in Germany, Okinawa, etc, for) – and if we don’t have an adequate number of men to field, then… Read more »

Is_Sense_Common
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Amen Pooky! Preach it sista!
(BTW, we absolutely need to rely on Divine Intervention not just for our Military, but also for our nation as a whole and for our Israeli friends who are currently under attack.)

NJK
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NJK

Excellent, but the know it alls in Washington, D.C. will do what they want anyway. Don’t ya know, they got one more vote than the other guy or gal, and now they can cut the military, run car companies, run health care, run banks, run power companies, oil, and do it with their eyes closed.

Personally, I hate their guts, and would like to see them all kicked to the curb, and their pensions revoked. They need to make restitution for what they’ve stolen over the years. The ones not stopping it, as well as the ones doing it directly. Hear that golfer?

rgolich
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Ever notice all departments, offices, agencies of the government have been on a spending spree since Barry Dunham took office, except for two areas – defense and NASA. Curious, eh?

As an effeminate, academic socialist, Hussein bin Obama wants all nations of the world to be even, level, none better, none worse than any other. NASA and the Defense Dept. are two areas where the USA has been traditionally light years ahead of other countries.

Twelve more months until this America hating, Black Panther, race-hustling smooth talker and his America hating wife are history.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

AMEN! God Bless our military, especially our Rangers.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

An articulate expression of the situation.
Thank you.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

“Liberals believe that if we stop using our military to kill people that try to harm us and break their stuff to smithereens, then the world will love us and everyone will ride a unicorn that solely subsists on Skittles.”

Wrong. Liberals hate this country and everything it stands for and so they hate the military because they believe America is not worthy of being defended. Their goal is to destroy the military through any means possible. Withholding money and Gay Rights are two of their best tactics.

I didn’t read past that for two reasons: it was so blatantly naive, and I really can’t take seriously anyone who calls themselves “pooksygirl”. I do appreciate the use of the shift key, though.

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enufisaenuf

There’s a difference between our military, who we should always honor, respect, appreciate and support with everything we have, and they way a dufus president may use them. Some of the US deployments were more political than a defensive necessity and here is where I draw the line. I support our military all the time, I only support our “political complex” when they make sense. Don’t blame the military for wrongful deployments your wrath should be toward DC. Very good post Pookysgirl.

Bobn
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Bobn

Pookysgirl, The only thing you got wrong in your post is that you spelled Paultards wrong. Trust me, as long as me and my daughters are alive, we will always Honor and Remember our active military, our veterans and our fallen soldiers.

I thought you Paultards believed in the First Amendment?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/herman-cain-heckled-by-ron-paul-supporters-during-campaign-speech/

Anonymous
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I think if there are any Paultards here, they are exercising their 1st Amendment. Not just believing in it.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Theres a lot more to the military industrial complex than making sure her husband gets a gun or a top notch fighter jet. The military has medical research facilities all over the world. Why? Does anyone remember Sept. 10, 2011? That day Rumsfeld testified that there were 2 trillion dollars he couldn’t find. The next day, nobody cared, understandably, but where is it?

RCL
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God, Paulbots.

Susanna that whole line is total bullshit. As the song says you could “Look it Up”.

Hey, if you want to get well babe you could start by reading Eric Hoffer’s “True Believers”. He was right in the ’60s and it works for you and your loony pals right this minute.

Jeff Song
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Jeff Song

I looked it up and found the news reporting that there is $2.3T unaccounted. Whistle blowers were making accusations of someone “cooking the books”. I’ve seen no resolution or denial of this yet, so if you know of something we don’t, then please give use the links so we will be enlightened.

Susanna may have made here comment in a way that sounded too conspiratorial to you that made you think of the “911 was an inside job” nonsense, but that’s your problem with jumping to conclusions rather than keeping focused on the fact that $2.3T has not been accounted for. Maybe there really is no problem, but since it appears this wasn’t followed up on, we don’t know one way or another. Unless of course if you have some info that I didn’t find.

Garym
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I’m smellin me some 911 truthers.

Anonymous
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I think you’re just smellin.

Garym
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Garym

Oooo ya got me there.

Anonymous
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Thanks Jeff. You’re right, I wasn’t talking about 9-11 being an inside job, I was talking about how the subject of the money died after that. What was it used for? No one knows. There is a huge military industrial complex that we don’t even see on the surface. And why is the military involved in medical research.
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/nmrc/Pages/index.htm

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I guess you looked it up? You’re so sure its BS? So, share what you know. But remember, pookysgirl is concerned about pooky. Susanna is concerned about Susanna, not Ron Paul. And before Ron Paul there was this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVWEAaP_8ww

Garym
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Its funny how butthurt the Paultards get when you make the slightest of slight comments against thier idol. You would think that Pookysgirl called Paul (pbuh), a filthy commie.

Jeff Song
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Jeff Song

Did I miss something that was going on here earlier that is now cleaned up? All I see in this thread is respectful clear explanations from Paul supporters why Pookysgirl is wrong.

I don’t know why there is so much trust in a big government that none of you trust. It boggles my mind.

Spartan
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Spartan

Pookysgirl,,,,,fist bump from my heart to yours. Thanks for venting, for we all feel as you do. God bless you and your brave husband. God speed to bring him safely home soon. And more importantly,,,,,,your words to God’s ear!!!!!

Anonymous
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I live near a large AFB and most days I get to personally thank many in the military. Some days I even buy buy lunch for a small group. If you want to feel better about yourselves, try it, you might just like it.

Barton
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With all due respect, here are a few questions I would liked answered by anyone who thinks that all these wars have been good. 1. If our military is trying to bring democracy to these nations(Egypt, Libya, Congo, Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanistan(who have now said they will help FIGHT America if they decide to go into Pakistan), and Palestine(by proxy)), why is it that these nations are all starting to lean even harder toward Sharia Law, than when they were under a dictatorship(not that those(dictators) are any good either)? 2. Why is it that these same nations, who we have bases in, or military in, are voicing opposition to America, and talking about backing enemies to the State(us)? 3. Do you HONESTLY believe that it is because we back Israel, or we are a free country, that they hate us? It is also noteworthy, that Ron has pointed out the marked(and… Read more »

BS61
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Both Bush and Obama seem to be in nation building mode, instead of Kill and get outta there mode.

As I posted earlier, it is naive to believe that all of the sudden other countries will like us… we see how well that approach is working for Obama.

Ron Paul supporters never seem to answer my question. Maybe you will. Why did Thomas Jefferson start the Navy/Marines to fight in a far off foreign land of Tripoli?

He was fighting the pirate muslims and got the first Koran to see why they hated us and found that we are all infidels who deserve to die if we don’t believe.

To Ron Paul, we should treat an Iranian the same as a Canadian! One treats their people with respect, one does not.

Barton
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Easiest answer to your question, and this is why the navy is considered the ONLY standing “army” the Constitution calls for: Jefferson originally wanted to pay the ransom to the Barbary Pirates. This perpetuated the situation, and, Tripoli asked for more and more money(sounds familiar). Jefferson knew, the only way to protect our free-trade in the Mediterranean Sea was to send a naval force to “protect” our trade. Jefferson didn’t want war, but Tripoli declared war on the U.S. because of the defiance to pay the ransoms for our seamen. Once we destroyed much of their forces, and crippled Tripoli, did Tripoli then give up on the war(this is very much summed up, not the entire story, just hitting quick points). Jefferson kept a naval presence in the Mediterranean Sea as protection to our trade ships. Now, as for the Koran issue, Jefferson’s envoy to Tripoli knew why they were… Read more »

KenInMontana
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Just a question Barton. Do you have verifiable evidence that the US Military has or had “Boots on the Ground” in Egypt, Tunisia, Congo or (Aside from air operations) Libya? In regards to Libya, the video that was posted some time ago supposedly of US troops in Libya were in fact French troops.

Barton
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I didn’t say boots, you are reading into something I never said. So, no, I don’t. Secondly, i am speaking of our “interactions”, whatever that means. We need to quit messing with countries that DON’T benefit us in any way.

And that has nothing to do with the questions purposed. I understand, the word military to MIC’s means boots, not me, it means any type of interaction, either weapons, money, military, or any combo of those. If I had said boots, it would have said on the ground.

Josh
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1. I don’t think we are fighting to bring democracy to those nations. On most of them, I don’t know what we are doing there. We should have no part in a civil war in another sovereign nation. However, I can’t correlate that our presence is pushing them towards Sharia law either. As far as Afghanistan and Iraq, it is my belief that we should do as Bush Sr. did and get out. If they build up another military and threaten us, we go back in and and annihilate them. 2. Islam has taken root and is now spreading. We are infidels and Jew supporters who happen to be the number one military power. And, with Obama at the helm, we are leaderless. This is the perfect time to strike at us. I think we will see that strike sometime before the end of Obama’s term. 3. Do they hate… Read more »

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The Military Spouse, Children and Parents do not get enough respect in this Country People do not realize what a sacrifice it is to have a family member in the service I sincerely THANK THEM. That being said – I wish the Military families would raise a little more HELL when it comes to underfunding the needs of the Military We ask them for everything and give them back little in return I wish the families would occupy Washington for 1 day to show the democRATS how many families are involved They should embarrass the crap out of Congress and POTUS for sending our Military anywhere unless they have the proper equipment and certainly pay them more than they do. I wonder how the MSM would handle the coverage That would be a true test of MSM of being fair and balanced All I hear is thank you – but… Read more »

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Anonymous

God bless you for sharing your very important thoughts and crucial points on the destructive path this USA has been put on by self serving politicians. Please thank your husband for me for his failthful service to the USA.

J.A. Topfke
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“Facts are facts, and human nature is predictable. There’s a reason Sun Tzu’s Art of War is still applicable in today’s world.” You mean like when he wrote: No nation has ever benefited from protracted warfare. Or do you mean when he wrote: A nation can be impoverished by the army when it has to supply the army at great distances. Or this: When provisions are transported at great distances, the citizens will be impoverished. Or this: Those in proximity to the army will sell goods at high prices. Or this: When their wealth is exhausted, the peasantry will be afflicted with increased taxes. Or this: When all strength has been exhausted and resources depleted, all houses in the central plains utterly impoverished, seven-tenths of the citizens’ wealth dissipated, the government’s expenses from damaged chariots, worn-out horses, armor, helmets, arrows and crossbows, halberds and shields, draft oxen, and heavy supply… Read more »

Anonymous
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Supposedly we’re fighting for their freedom, while we are losing our own freedom.

BS61
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I’ll post the question I have before:

Ron Paul supporters never seem to answer my question. Maybe you will. Why did Thomas Jefferson start the Navy/Marines to fight in a far off foreign land of Tripoli?

He was fighting the pirate muslims and got the first Koran to see why they hated us and found that we are all infidels who deserve to die if we don’t believe.

To Ron Paul, we should treat an Iranian the same as a Canadian! One treats their people with respect, one does not.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

“Weenie liberals and Paulbouts”…hehehe
Fantastic article!

rgolich
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There is hardly a “military industrial complex” anymore Paulbots. Want proof? We don’t have a third of the industry we used to just 20 years ago! And likewise, our Armed Forces are much smaller than they’ve been in 50 years!

And why don’t we ever hear about the “government-media complex”? Or the “Hollywood-Manhattan complex”? Hmm, curious.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Salute, milady, to you and your husband . If one family member is serving, all family members are serving.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I love Governor Palin and would vote for her for president, if she were the GOP candidate. I would not vote for her or any other third party candidate, as they would only split the GOP vote and ensure the reelection of the only president in my 67 years that makes Jimmy Carter look good. It is very hard to be worse than Mr. carter.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Pookysgirl, thank you and your husband. God bless you and all our military and their families.

Dan C
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Dan C

Pookysgirl is correct. Well done!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

She is a very brave woman.

I have the deepest respect for our military and their families.

I wonder why obama and the political elites are more than willing to finance the illegals and their anchors but will not help our military.

As usual, illegals get preferential treatment on tax payer money.

NYGino
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NYGino

12grace, I think you’ve summed up her frustration and anger very nicely.

Cheryl Pryor
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Cheryl Pryor

Amen! As a mom of a future soldier (Army ROTC), I want to thank you and your husband since you as his wife serve with him and sacrifice much! May God Bless him and keep him safe.

NYGino
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NYGino

pookysgirl, hang tough. The Conservatives will be coming back with a vengeance and along with them the understanding that they have a sworn duty to protect our country. Thank you and your husband for being true Americans.

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I wish it were that simple – conservatives riding in on that white horse to save the nation. Alas, I think it will take a miracle to get this nation turned around. I used to think that all that is good would win over all that is not, but it seems even those who start out with conservative principle end up tarnished by their own dersire for power and enrichment. I believe in the men and women who make up our military, but I do not believe in their leaders. Something just doesn’t seem right anymore in the way we fight wars. It seems we are just in it to be in it and not to win it. So sad for those who have lost limbs and lives. Don’t get me wrong. I am a huge supporter of the military, but I have a problem with the leadership.

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Dear Pooksygirl, With all respect due a spouse of a member of our military, you make an interesting argument but your knowledge of Congressmen Ron Paul’s position is incorrect. Congressmen Paul’s position on national defense is a strong one as our Constitution reasonably asserts. Your statement of “protecting ourselves abroad” is an oxymoron. If you said protect ourselves here in the United States, you would’ve been correct. If you said protect ANOTHER NATION abroad, you would’ve also been correct. However, since there are no bounded lands under US control on any other continent (US territories excluded), your statement makes no sense. Please show me the article and section of the Constitution that states that the US will provide military support in (fill in a country name) for the purpose of (fill in the blank quoting some member of Congress whom you presume to despise). Congressmen Paul believes in a strong… Read more »

Brian Drolet
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Very well said, and this is from someone who grew up living on one USAF base after another until my father retired. I want the United States to have the best equipped, best trained, and most effective military force in the world, but that doesn’t mean I want it utilized in ways not strictly in line with the Constitution. Occupying nations in the name of fighting wars against tactics doesn’t qualify.

Anonymous
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THANK YOU!!

Mike Lee
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Mike Lee

You raise good points, but I think it’s far too simplistic to look at the world in such black and white terms. Sometimes the best defense is a good offense, i.e. the goal of defending the nation can SOMETIMES (but certainly not always) be achieved by “interfering” with other nations. We can argue and discuss when, where, and how that might be done. But those who say “bring all the troops home from other countries, because the USA isn’t under direct attack” are being terribly naive and short-sighted. The world is a very complex and dangerous place. In certain cases, it is in the USA’s best interest to take action, get involved, etc., in foreign nations and conflicts. We may not be able to draw direct and obvious links between specific actions overseas and the benefits to national security – but that doesn’t mean they aren’t there. It’s one giant… Read more »

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Saying the world is a complex and dangerous place with out looking into why that is the case can also be seen as naive and short-sighted. As I understand history, for example, perhaps if the British Empire hadn’t re-arranged the place cards at the table of the middle east many years ago, the middle east may not be in the turmoil it’s in today. Regan understood the irrationality of middle-eastern politics and changed his foreign policy because of it. Maybe the recent past and current US administrations need to follow in Regan’s footsteps. To just make a statement (a perception really) that the world is this or that without looking into the reasons (or at least potential reasons) for the current state of affairs can be just as dangerous as a perception.

BS61
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Ron Paul supporters never seem to answer my question. Maybe you will. Why did Thomas Jefferson start the Navy/Marines to fight in a far off foreign land of Tripoli?

He was fighting the pirate muslims and got the first Koran to see why they hated us and found that we are all infidels who deserve to die if we don’t believe.

To Ron Paul, we should treat an Iranian the same as a Canadian! One treats their people with respect, one does not.

Anonymous
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Thank you for taking the time to reply to me.

I have heard Congressmen Paul address this issue in interviews. It caught my attention because this issue has been brought up in other discussions I’ve had here on RS. He has stated that there is a way to address these types of issues with a response of necessary force without a declaration of war since the enemy is not another sovereign nation. I have tried to find video clips and/or transcripts of his statements but so far have been unable to. I’ve also searched on a few of his websites and also haven’t come up with anything yet. I will continue to search for them and will post the links once obtained.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Military Wife: Ordinary women need not apply.
Thank your for your service too Pookysgirl.

On a sad note 13 down in Kabul Afghanistan today.
Damn

MJS
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MJS

People often forget that our super-duper-duper military and that fact that we spend as much as the next “X” countries acts as a deterrent. Who would want to fight a military like ours?

Bring back Missile Defense!

God bless this lady, and her husband for his service. (Although the Navy is the best branch of service wink )

Debby
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Debby

Excellent post! Thank your husband for his service on behalf of the Scoopers.

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