Australia’s political candidates declare that gay people DON’T go to hell, after rugby player gets PERSECUTED for saying they do…

Well this is an odd declaration for politicians to be making.

Two politicians in Australia have both declared that gay people don’t go to hell for being gay. And they are both Christians making this claim:

CBN NEWS – Leaders of Australia’s major political parties announced today that gay people don’t go to hell for their sexual orientation.

The discussion has come to prominence in the final days of an election campaign.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is a Pentecostal, and opposition leader Bill Shorten was a Catholic before he converted to his wife’s Anglican faith.

In the past, Morrison has been clear about his biblical beliefs on sexuality, opposing same-sex marriage. Shorten argued in favor of it ahead of a national vote in 2017 where the country legally recognized same sex unions.

On Monday, reporters asked Morrison whether LGBT individuals are going to hell. He replied, “People’s faith are people’s faith. And, you know, I’m not running for Pope. I’m running for prime minister. And so, you know, theological questions you can leave at the seminary.”

Shorten pounced on that statement saying, “I cannot believe that the prime minister has not immediately said that gay people will not go to hell.”

After Shorten challenged the prime minister about whether he believed gays went to hell, Morrison called that line of questioning a “desperate, cheap shot.” Still, he went on to say he did not believe gays went to hell.

The issue has been in the spotlight in Australia recently. It comes weeks after Australian rugby star Israel Folau was fired and found guilty by the country’s rugby administration for using social media to say gays needed to repent of their sin.



In case you’re wondering about the Australian rugby star, here’s what he posted on his instagram that got him into so much trouble:

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Those that are living in Sin will end up in Hell unless you repent. Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him. _______________ Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these , adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19‭-‬21 KJV _______________ Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 KJV _______________ And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Acts 17:30 KJV _______________

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As a consequence of posting this on his instagram, he lost his sponsorships and his rugby contact was terminated. He was a world famous rugby player.

This just goes to show you how horrific political correctness has become in Australia. Folau is suffering persecution for calling sinners to repentance while Christian politicians are backing down from what the Bible clearly says about the issue of homosexuality.

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The Sane Silence Dogood
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Why would you want to lie to people? They ARE going downwards. It’s not my words, it is God’s WORD! He never changes, full stop. If the inward sin of the immorality of the flesh wasn’t such a grievous sin, it would not have been mentioned THIRTY SEVEN times in the New Testament ALONE! To sin inward like that is a sin against the temple in which the Holy Spirit dwells. Which is sin against the spirit Himself!

BlackR1
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BOTH comments are absurd.

No one, NO ONE knows what’s in another’s heart, nor do we know how God will judge ANY of us, ALL of whom are born of SIN.

eklektos44
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Yeah all that stuff about “by their fruits”, “wolves ravaging the flock”, and “he that loves me” is just optional. Man modern “Christianity” is weak tea, and imaginary.

Rednca
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You’ll find out when you die! I’d rather believe and there not be a God than not believe and then there is, which I’ve got news for you there IS PERIOD!!!

eklektos44
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It’s repent and believe. It’s not simply believe, in fact if you don’t repent you will have no reason to believe as you don’t think your sin is a big deal. So while I cannot say someone will not do so in the future I can say that if they die in their current state hades is their destination.

eklektos44
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I’m sure God will be impressed with their claims. More likely that a host of Australians will be joining them.
“Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.” Ro 1:32

Gadbous
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Homosexuals, most assuredly, will all go to hell.

The hand basket is boarding at gate #666….

Michelle Lee
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Mortal sin contains such big loopholes that the openly gay wouldn’t go to hell. Mortal sin requires full knowledge of wrongness and deliberate consent of the will. Open gays don’t think it’s wrong (love is love is love) so they pass through that loophole.

Gadbous
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God doesn’t recognize that “loophole”.

Michelle Lee
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But the church teaches it.

The Sane Silence Dogood
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Then it isn’t a Bible Teaching and believing church. God’s word never changes, only those that pretend to “teach” His word change.

eklektos44
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All sin is mortal. That’s why God provided a savior.

The Sane Silence Dogood
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I don’t know “which” bible you read but the ones that I’ve been reading all my life don’t contain any “loopholes” of which you speak. There is no fence with God, you’re either with Him, or against Him.

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This is insane.

“Are gays going to hell?”
“Shrug. I don’t know. Depends on what you believe.”
“WRONG. THE ANSWER IS NO. SAY IT.”
“Dude! It’s a theological que..”
“SAY IT!!!!!”
“WTF! Fine, they don’t! Put the friggin’ knife down! Are you crazy!?”

TomNewman64
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“If they do not repent of their sins, become baptized into Christ, and become disciples of Christ they are. Just like everyone else”

It’s a pretty easy answer actually.

Thomas-Aquinas
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Top player? That’s courage!

Monkeywench
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Frankly, out of all he “lost”, I would rather have Jesus on my side. The time is coming when Christians will lose everything, but Jesus. Stay strong my brothers and sisters.

kong1967
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I must say that it’s funny how Democrats target political figures for expressing their religious views and say they should shut up. They want any thoughts about religion kept out of government, yet here they are injecting it.

toon
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Same with abortion. They claim they want government out of their womb but want the government to stand guard over it and pay for it’s maintenance.

kong1967
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toontoon That’s a perfect description. I’m glad you caught my typo and knew what I meant. I meant to say “religious views”, not political views.

kong1967
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“People’s faith are people’s faith. And, you know, I’m not running for Pope. I’m running for prime minister. And so, you know, theological questions you can leave at the seminary.”

I think this is the right answer and he should have stuck to it. I don’t care whether my leaders believe someone should go to hell or not. The judgement is not ours to make. What is our judgement is what to do with people that violate the law. The judgement being asked of them can be made by churches with their membership status, but last I checked the government isn’t God. The free world doesn’t practice Sharia.

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The world gets more Orwellian all the time. Conservative and Christian voices are continually being removed from social media. Some people are afraid to speak the truth as laid out in the bible for fear of repercussions. To merely say what the bible says today will get labeled many times as hate speech because the bible does not follow their politically correct code. This is all just another sign we are living in the end times.

Truth Unites... and Divides
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God is patient and forbearing, not wanting anyone to perish.

But yeah, sure seems like the World is getting so wicked that Jesus will return soon.

bob434
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didn’t ya know? These two ‘Christians’ are higher than God- or so they think apparently- they have spoken- God’s word will just have to take a back seat to their declarations evidently

Dramamama60
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Actually they might not, if they turn from their sinful ways, confess to God that they are sinners, they do NOT have to go to hell. But if they choose to live that lifestyle and flaunt their gayness in God’s face, hell is there for them.

Dayenu
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More or less what I was going to say. I don’t think Hell awaits all gays. A person with strong same-sex tendencies that actually doesn’t follow through on them out of fear of G-d would actually get a very big reward. Those that try to push it onto children? That’s a problem.

And the so-called person of G-d who says it’s all okay? That’s a problem too.

Gadbous
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Why are you afraid to say “God”?

sjmom
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The simple answer would’ve been……..”that’s between them and God and I’m not Him.” They would’ve been correct.

spiritof61
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Being homosexual is not a mortal sin, leading to Hell. Engaging in homosexual acts is. The PM’s statement would seem to be correct. Of course, if homo acts are not repented of and God’s forgiveness sincerely desired–if there is no contrition for the sin–that would in fact be enough to condemn an unrepentant sinner to eternal damnation.

Probably about 95% of homosexuals fall into this category. One can only pray that they truly repent before they die. God wants them to inherit eternal life. They themselves have the free will to accept or reject God’s law.

Watchman
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This is the world we live in now. Say something that is not “politically correct” and it will get you blacklisted. George Carlin was right when he said “Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be manners.”

K-Bob
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Did he take a knee?

Because if he took a knee, he gets a pass forever. New rules, right?

PlotEvil
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Being gay doesn’t send one to hell. The denial of Christ as Lord and Savior does. As a Christian, if you are gay, it will be an internal battle to change your ways. But if you truly accept Christ and want to follow Him you will repent from this sin as well as your other sins. Doesn’t mean the urge to sin and falling back doesn’t happen.

TomNewman64
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TomNewman64

Exactly.

bob434
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bob434

well said- Sadly though it’s now a crime to speak God’s word in some places

TomNewman64
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I think this kind of message confuses people. No one gets a free pass simply because they were not gay. All are slaves to sin, all are burning eternally in hell without Christ.

I think too many conservatives believe hell doesn’t have anything to do with them simply because they marry someone of the opposite sex. That if they live a basically moral life, they can avoid eternal damnation, but still not have to take up the cross and become a disciple of Christ. Of course, it doesn’t work that way at all.

His meme should more accurately say:
“ALL PEOPLE
HELL AWAITS YOU!
REPENT!
ONLY JESUS SAVES”

toon
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It’s better to go to hell than lose an election I guess.

sjmom
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It seems that way.

Sentinel
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A “truly saved” Christian cannot stand by homosexuality. I would question their faith and/or conversion if they did. Homosexuality is literally an abomination and a true Christian would know that. This player is being persecuted for his faith – plain and simple. GOD will reward him.

ryan-o
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Well said.

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