BREAKING: At least 7 dead from shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin – UPDATED WITH LIVE STREAM

***UPDATED: LIVE STREAM ADDED***

Police have confirmed that at least 7 are dead, including the shooter, at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Fox News has also confirmed that 3 are hospitalized and in critical condition, one of whom is the police officer that engaged and killed the shooter. He was shot multiple times but is expected to survive.



The police asked the media to refrain from flying helicopters over the scene because of the current investigation.

There is a press conference scheduled at 4:30pm EST.

I’ll update with more details when available.

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librtifirst
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librtifirst

Jones being taken out would never be a quiet thing. His sphere of influence is global. They ignored him for too long, and then he became too big to take out quietly. I think that conspiracy theories thrive on secrecy. We now have something like 16 million new classified documents per year in the US government alone. When you add in all of the known corruption, it just leads to certain conclusions that tend to go out of the main stream. Consider the eugenics conspiracy theory: 1: Monsanto corporate heads are appointed to run the FDA and USDA. Monsanto owns 80% of all GMO patents. It has been proven that Monsanto has seeded non-GMO crops with their seed, taken samples from the fields and had the farmers prosecuted for patent infringement. They then force the farmers to buy their “suicide seeds” and keep them from producing their own seed. Independent… Read more »

KenInMontana
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Lori Patriot
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FROM THE ARTICLE “FBI has a track record of staging similar assaults, then stopping them at the last minute This is not your run-of-the-mill crime of passion. It was a carefully planned, heavily funded and technically advanced attack.”

http://www.naturalnews.com/035849_domestic_terror_plots_FBI.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/034325_FBI_entrapment_terror_plots.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033751_FBI_terrorism.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/035757_FBI_terror_plots_false_flag.html

“The FBI had admitted to setting up terror plots, providing the weapons and gear, staging the location of the bombings and even driving the vehicles to pull it off! This is not a conspiracy theory, it’s been admitted by the FBI right out in the open. Even the New York Times openly reports all this in stories like this one: NYT: Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I.” http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Our government has been caught so many times that they have lost all credibility. It isn’t just one administration or another, it is a consistent pattern of abuse by covert, and overt, government agencies. Nobody wants to believe that our government has become Hitlerian, or adopted Nazi style tactics to manipulate society, but the pile of evidence is too big to ignore.The apparent complicity of the media in covering up, or not reporting on, the details of these events only invites theories of conspiracy, and makes them all the more believable.

Lori Patriot
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Lori Patriot

Former Congressional Candidate & Pulitzer Prize nominee, Jon Rappoport lays out the facts that the Sikh temple shooting has false flag written all over it. The narrative of 1 shooter has already been shown false. Two witnesses say multiple shooters. Read more http://www.nomorefakenews.com/

Lori Patriot
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Lori Patriot

Telling the truth is not always easy, but it is always right. Paul Weston, the most important leader in the UK, warns, if allowed to proceed on its current course of national suicide, Britain will turn into another Lebanon, where the growing Muslim population kills off and/or drives out most of the indigenous Christian population. http://barenakedislam.com/2012/04/16/warning-to-the-west-about-islam-by-paul-weston-head-of-the-british-freedom-party/ The same clueless elite in the US are allowing our culture and founding principles to be overthrown from within. The media did not even cover the story of the Michigan Muslims stoning Christians. http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2012/06/american-muslims-stone-christians-in.html

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

I’m sure the MSM are working hard to get to the bottom of this and find a way to blame this on the Tea Party.

Rocco11
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Rocco11

The Left is already calling this loon a “domestic terrorist,” while Nadal Hassan’s massacre was just a “workplace incident.” Maybe this guy should have shouted Alahu Akbar?

librtifirst
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librtifirst
Jimbo
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Jimbo

Must be a Conservative who did it. Just like Az and Colorado. Oh wait that was not the case. Oh the heck with it. We’ll (MSM) will report it that way.

mark1955
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mark1955

Right now the authorities are busy scrubbing his Facebook page and any other social media,of any links to left wing,or islamist organizations. That’s why they won’t release his name untill they accomplish all that.

Jimbo
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Jimbo

What’s the difference whether he was left, right or anything else. He’s dead which is a good thing.

mark1955
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mark1955

“What’s the difference whether he was left,right”. I’ll tell you what the difference is. If he is linked to any Conservative group’s, rightly,or wrongly, Obama and his lamestream media thugs,will be using that,to attack us 24 hours a day and also use it to try and take away our Second Ammendment Right’s. If it is a leftie,or islamist,they will cover it all up and try to protect any organization’s that are behind the shooter. Whoever they really are.

Jimbo
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Jimbo

Screw nobama and the media. They will never take our guns without a revolution. And BTW nobama has been attacking us for nearly 4 years now. JS

Lori Patriot
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Lori Patriot

Who shot the shooter since Sikhs at a religious center are unlikely to be carrying? The timing of this is suspect after what just happened in Colorado. There is much more to the Colorado massacre than what meets the eye. It seems that the accused shooter’s father is the whistle blower that exposed the Libor Bank scam involving trillions of dollars, the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve of NY. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/11/libor-rate-scandal_n_1664737.html The puppet masters behind the scenes are capable of orchestrating a “false flag” scenario to influence public opinion about guns and the UN vote. Americans are being manipulated by our media. The media reveals what they are allowed to reveal. Notice that there has not been one word about the accused shooter’s father, Robert Holmes connection to the big banking fraud and pending testimony before Congress that supposedly was going to happen soon. If this sounds ridiculous and… Read more »

mark1955
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mark1955

Agree 100%. Let’s all pretend that ‘Fast and Furious’ didn’t happen either. That tells you the length the Government will go through in order to take away our God Given Second Ammendment Right’s. Over 300 mexican’s and 2 American Border Patrol Agents,murdered,in a scheme that was created deliberately to cause death’s,in order to take away our Firearms. Yet,some people are under the illusion, even given what happened with ‘Fast and Furious’,that our Government couldn’t be involved in ‘False Flag’ events.They are capable of anything to achieve their Goals.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

Spot on, my friend.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Alex Jones, is that you? You need to learn a bit more about reputable sources, from the look of those links. HuffPo? Pravda? Really?
A responding City Police Officer shot and killed the assailant. An assailant who has yet to be identified, other than a balding white male, apparently in his 40’s, and one hell of a lot of wild-arsed speculation from the media and the usual rumor mongering tabloid press.

sDee
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Same reaction I got when I started talking about the inconsistencies within a day of the Martin shooting, and in 2009 when I pointed out interesting timing between the “rumors” of agents being told to let guns walk while Clinton was int Mexico City and the UN talking about US guns being used in crimes. Sometimes it was not is being said, what is not being investigated, that is as important as what is not being said. Multiple eyewitness reports of accomplices at the theater have gone unreported. Holmes father’s direct connection to core software that monitors global banking transactions and fraud have not even been talked about. There has zero reported in this guy’s background to indicate he had any issues. In fact less than a year ago he was awarded a major scholarship for neuroscience. US and UK media outlets have achieved a level of misinformation that exceeds… Read more »

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I really wasn’t all that surprised by the actions of the BATFE, they, like the DEA, have had a long established reputation as “cowboys” in law enforcement circles. Both agencies have a reputation for pushing through the gray areas of conduct,even into the black. On going investigations are kept quiet for a variety of reasons, first and foremost is to protect the integrity of evidence and leads. If there were accomplices it would certainly not behoove the police to release this and alert the accomplices that they had been found out, would it? At this stage, they are still conducting interviews, collecting physical evidence at the crime scene, investigating the shooter’s identity and background. It’s not at all like an episode of CSI. As to Holmes, thus far, we have an individual who “cracked” psychologically, under the pressure of medical school, intelligent people are not immune to losing it under… Read more »

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Well said. I’ve always asked that same question about conspiracies. Why isn’t the one selling books about the conspiracy taken quietly out of the picture?

Most conspiracy theories rely on over- or under-specificity at key points in the development of a situation or examination of events, in order to peddle the conspiracy. They gloss right over problems of logistics, the capacity of investigators to determine things, and even the number of trained personnel working a case. They always make ordinary goof-ups seem far more sinister than the reality.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

I posted a reply to this post, but it ended up below as a general comment.

K-Bob
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Disqus loses the handle sometimes. The good news is Disqus rarely loses what you typed. A good trick when you think Disqus is screwing up after you hit “send” is to wait about a minute, then open a new tab or window to the same page you’re sitting on. That way you can see if it “took.” And you still have the original edit box available to try again.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Well said. I’ve always asked that same question about conspiracies. Why isn’t the one selling books about the conspiracy taken quietly out of the picture?

Most conspiracy theories rely on over- or under-specificity at key points in the development of a situation or examination of events, in order to peddle the conspiracy. They gloss right over problems of logistics, the capacity of investigators to determine things, and even the number of trained personnel working a case. They always make ordinary goof-ups seem far more sinister than the reality.

librtifirst
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librtifirst
Winston
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Winston

Another violent eastern religion. Sikhs are probably the most violent after the Muslims.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Many people can be violent if provoked, the Sikhs have been the target of attacks from Hindu and Muslim for centuries, I’ll wager if you had shared that same experience you’d show a propensity for violence as well.

anyonebutbarry2012
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anyonebutbarry2012

thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families, friends.

rgolich
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rgolich

Remember as the head of the Army said after Ft. Hood. If we let this negatively impact our “diversity” it will be a greater tragedy than the murders.

Ugh. Diversity is our strength! Yeah right.

Luker410
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Luker410

Has ABC fingered the Tea Party yet?

BucketheadBaptist
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BucketheadBaptist

eewwww.

p m
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p m

Not making any assumptions here, just saying. Violence within the Sikh community is not unheard of. We had a severe problem with it in Vancouver some years ago, and more in relation to the downed Air India flight in 1985, which continues to this day. There’s a history of hostility between Sikhs and Sikhism’s extremists, as well as various Indian governments, so maybe we will find that this doesn’t fit the usual LSM anti-gun, anti-Tea Party drivel template.

Not that that will stop them, unfortunately.

JohnOfPhiladelphia
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JohnOfPhiladelphia

Here we go AGAIN.

librtifirst
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librtifirst

That was my first thought.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I don’t know the cause of this horror, but I suspect there will be more and more before November. This country is a boiling pot right now and something’s going to break. May God have mercy on us all. We need His guidance now more than ever.

I pray for the ones lost, for their families, and for the injured.

Sam Anello
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Sam Anello

Really? More of this before November? Did Aurora have anything to do with November? NO. Did this have anything to do with November? We don’t know yet, but I seriously doubt it. People who do this [email protected] are not the kind of mad that are going to the polls in November, they are just mad. Any excuse will do to pull the trigger, set off the bomb, or throw the knives.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

The conditions of this country have everything to do with this November. As they get worse and worse, situations like this will continue to rise up and show their ugly heads. I didn’t say November voters are doing this. The terrible state of our nation is bringing out the crazies more and more. Period.

Sam Anello
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Sam Anello

Sorry, I still disagree with this premise and think it sets the discussion on a very dangerous path. Here is a wiki that helps me make my point
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

Mass murders happen world wide and have happened for centuries. I don’t see that they are ecalating. They happen. They also seem to happen in summer a lot as well. Linking them to politics or even morality is not helpful. These people are just plain nuts.

toongoon
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toongoon

World wide they happen, yes they do. But not usually in the US, and with so many groups divided at point in time, any escalation, by any group will cause undo blame and therefore retaliation. What happens in the US is what will effect the November elections more than what happens elsewhere, unless our government (obama) is the instigator.

deeme
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deeme

I agree , we have never had a President that divided us more..He is bringing out the worst in everyone. Every speech he points at someone, he is suppose to be impartial and unbiased but right from the beginning, the Republicans, the oil companies the coal companies, the Christian gun owners, The Rich, Wall Street, yacht owners, Bush, Bush Bush…Romney…

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Make any point you want, but looking at your link, since 1949, in the US, 3 of the top 8 have occurred in the last 3 years. How does that prove your point that I’m wrong to say times are getting bad and bad things are happening?

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

It’s like these incidents are the kind of terrorist acts the Islamist themselves would do. I almost feel like we are experiencing “terrorism by proxy” and that is what we should continue to watch for.

tshtsh
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tshtsh

I heard somewhere that is where the term “Indian Summer” comes.

Betsey_Ross
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Betsey_Ross

Exactly. The crazies are tolerated and made famous. The media loves to blame the innocent just to create buzz. As Obama discovers his polls are tanking there will be more upheaval, lawsuits, media insanity, etc., etc. All of the citizens of this country should expect the unexpected. Be alert.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

I have that same feeling–these tragedies, shooting and a movie with a conservative sub plot, attack on the sworn enemies of Islam– both by white shooters–it’s just warming up…

Joel
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Joel

Religion of peace, like Mohammad’s ass.

rgolich
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rgolich

Don’t misintrepret this diversity lovers, liberals, whacked out lefties and the like but………not everyone needs to move (immigrate) to every other country in the world. THere’s a reason why we should have sovereign nations with borders. Sikhs’s, Muslims, Buddhists really don’t belong in Western nations such as ours, just as I don’t belong in their countries.

But that’s hard for the modern liberal (of both parties) to hear these days.

RocklinConservative
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RocklinConservative

3-2-1- tea party did it. … Let’s ban guns

cheezwhizz
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cheezwhizz

The police asked the media to refrain from flying helicopters over the scene
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CNN is doing just that , right now !!

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

CNN isn’t media. Not professional, anyway.

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

God be with the injured and with the families of the ones slain.

BucketheadBaptist
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BucketheadBaptist

Just wanted to say that the Sikhs stood with America on 9-11.. they too have felt the terror of Islam.

We do not know the motives here… but I grieve with these people.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Sikhs are a remarkable, freedom and peace-loving people who respect the family and have a great sense of humor.

Muslims fear the Sikh. If there are 100 muslims on one side and 9 Sikhs on the other, I will join the Sikhs. I wish there were more Sikhs in this country. They are welcome in my home.

warpmine
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warpmine

…and the Sikhs would win to.

Lori Patriot
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Lori Patriot

One of my neighbors fled East Africa during Amin’s regime.

Cecil Hill
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Cecil Hill

I was introduced to Sikhs when I did my masters thesis (International Affairs) on the siege of the Golden Temple in Amritsar in India in the 1980s. Interviewed lots of Sikhs in the US and in Thailand for the thesis. Here are some facts from my research: 1) Sikhs in America are great Americans buying into the whole concept of what America stands for. 2) Sikhs worship only one god and believe in the equality of humanity, including non-Sikhs and women 3) Sikhs are some of the hardest working capitalist in the world, usually dominating various industries where they live. In Thailand, they pretty much own the textile industry while in England they are heavy into transportation 4) Ignorant people often confuse them with Muslims. Many of my Sikh students in Thailand when traveling abroad are chastised for eating pork by Muslims thinking the students are Muslims. 5) Sikhs are… Read more »

MaxineCA
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MaxineCA

Thank you for the information! It sure helps to be informed.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Thank you for this information. I knew one Sikh man and I will not forget him. Not sure I ever met anyone with a more cosmic sense of humor and determination. I wish there was a away for more Americans to know about the Sikh’s.

To everyone else, if you can, say hello and get to know a Sikh person. You will not regret it. Look up Sikh on the internet and and have a look at their basic beliefs. Read what you can about how they fought/fight the muslims. You will be impressed.

Vikram
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Vikram

This is just terrible;anarchists seem to be ruling the day,probably the shooter mistook the Peaceful Sikhs for Radical muslims like in immediate post 9/11 period

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