BREAKING: Broward Deputy Scot Peterson just ARRESTED for his role in 2018 mass shooting!

Remember Scot Peterson, the Sheriff’s deputy that ran and hid while students were being massacred at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School over a year ago?

Well he was just fired by the Broward County Sheriff’s Office. And then arrested:



According to CBS Miami he’s been charged with seven counts of child neglect, 3 counts of culpable negligence, 1 count of perjury for his role in the #MSD Marjory Stoneman Douglas mass shooting:

We’ll update you on more if we get it.

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FedUp
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After reading this entire thread, I think someone should take an oath at removing obvious trolls ( @AT ).

kong1967
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He’s probably going to get the maximum sentence too because so many children were killed.

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This is welcomed news because it reveals and confirms that Broward county law enforcement and political officials have embroiled in criminal, corrupt and unethical conduct for decades. Let’s not forget that former Broward county sheriff, Scott Israel, (a Hillary Clinton supporter) was fired for his reprehensible conduct and malfeasance in the Mary Stoneman Douglas High School shootings. The suspended coward, Israel refused to accept blame for his role in the massacre. He blamed the NRA and gun violence for the shootings. He then accused the NRA for controlling governor DeSantis. Broward County has also been embroiled in political corruption dating back to the Bush/Al Gore presidential race. This past November Broward County elections supervisor, Brenda Snipes was accused of corruption and incompetence. On Election night Brenda Snipes originally reported that 634,000 votes were cast in the midterm election in her county. The following Friday morning Snipes said 717,000 votes were… Read more »

Texas Chris
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This flies directly in the face o the SCOTUS ruling that LEOs have no duty to protect.

I’m betting he gets a slap on the wrist and no jail time.

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Heads up, Scoop.

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There’s a side lesson to be garnered from this coward — it’s best to become trained and well practiced with a sidearm, then get your conceal / carry permit, because you might be fatally mistaken if you think the calvary will come to your aid when trouble rears its ugly head.

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How ironic. We arrest a cop for not shooting someone but when a cop murders someone without cause they not only don’t get arrested, they get a raise and an award.

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Oh, please! Why don’t just be honest about how you really feel and apologize for his actions?

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He should be punished. I was just commenting on the irony that a significant percentage of cops who use deadly force should be punished at a much great degree but 99% of the time they get a two week paid vacation and some sort of award for heroism instead of an award for cowardice that most certainly deserve far more than this guy deserves to be punished. I’d say punish him and start punishing cops since as a group they commit more felonies than any other group.

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AvatarAnomander Your claim falls on its face because the recorded facts and statistics do not support your drivel.

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Well I for one have never given an award to a cop for murdering someone. Who are you talking about.

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Almost ever time a person is shot to death by a cop it boils down to the cop claiming that he was in fear for his life. Either cops are the most cowardly POS’s in human history or they are lying, though it is likely a little of both. After being put on paid leave the cop will soon be back on the streets. Since a cop can do virtually anything, blatantly lie about it and tamper with the evidence, the department rules it as justified. If they won’t punish him for doing something wrong then they must award him, This is standard procedure,

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AvatarAnomander You are attempting to support your baseless and unsubstantiated argument with a grossly misinformed sense of reality.

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I watched this guy speak before. A talker, not a doer. Sure likes to show how smart he is, but . . .

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He has one of those smirky smiles that turns my stomach. Glad for Fla. he’s GONE!

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SEVERAL of these cowardly PUNKS from the Sheriffs Department were stacked up outside, soiling themselves, and listening to gunshots and screams. His arrest should be the first of MANY.

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@lBJr. His boss at that time was Sheriff, Scott Israel. Israel was suspended by newly elected republican governor, Rick DeSantis immediately following the massacre.

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Good. And I hope he gets a fair trial, conviction, and sent to Starke (our Joilet/Riker’s Island) for 10 years mixed with the general population. He is a ghoul, a liar, and the scum of the earth for what he didn’t do.

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Mark Levin discussing this now and joins in praising Gov DeSantis

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As a combat veteran, I can tell you, there would be no crime in the attempt and failure but there is a total crime in a failure to attempt. The hard question is “what is the crime of cowardice and inaction in a civilian role”?

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The courts have ruled many time that there is no duty to protect for law enforcement, this is just feels for the masses and will quietly amount to nothing.

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“The courts have ruled many time that there is no duty to protect for law enforcement”

I’ve heard or read that before, especially in the context of not surrendering one’s firearms to the gun grabbers, but at least he got fired. But if there is no conviction, then yeah, your point remains.

If it was me, and I would be scared too, I’d rather die trying than to live dishonorably as a coward. Of course, other folks would make a different decision if in that same situation, but….

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This is not right. Sounds like Soviet type of Justice. Just watched Chernobyl on HBO. Highly recommend it btw.

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RonboRonbo – Yes! We’ve been watching it too. It’s so scary but very good to watch.

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The police were tasked with school security. In that case it is their responsibility.

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“what is the crime of cowardice and inaction in a civilian role”?

To live in tyranny without revolt.

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RonboRonbo What we have here is administrative malfeasance, abject cowardice and absolute dereliction of duty.

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If I remember there was reporting at the time that the officers were ordered to hold back due to some policy in place. As well, this is a slippery slope when trying to criminalize a character issue. I would like to believe that all LEO’s would be screened for proper character strengths and weaknesses but seeing the leadership that was in place at the time I doubt that was as effective as it should have been. I hate that the man was afraid to do his job but that is grounds for termination not prosecution in my opinion. He was fired and has been vilified in the press and on social media and probably in his community. I believe that is where it should end. I understand the necessity for people to want justice and even vengeance for this tragedy but I believe that it is a step to far… Read more »

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Soo, there’s a NEW Sheriff in town, and he’s kickin’ b***!!! Good job Broward County, excellent choice!

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That’s why we voted for DeSantis. To kick butt and take names. The results are starting to speak for themself. He’s definitely a player in 2028 if he keeps this up.

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You can sign me up!!

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Ah, the scapegoats, both jumping off the cliff to protect the thugs who run Broward County, FL…..but also, WOW….what’s in a name?! I can think of, now, THREE Scot Petersons (Scott Pedersen, Scott Peterson) from coast to coast and in between who are nefarious as heck! Mammas, don’t name your baby boys Scot Peterson (or any derivation thereof), whatever you do! eek

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Thanks Charli, and here I thought my confusion rested in my failing
memory, whew.

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CharliCharli There is the Scott Peterson, that murdered his girlfriend, Broward County Deputy Sheriff Scott Peterson and fired Broward County Sheriff, Scott Israel. The name, “Scott” seems to be the common denominator.

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I am honestly uncomfortable with the criminal charges against the deputy for a couple reasons. First as pointed out by another poster the SCOTUS has ruled that a police officer has no duty to protect, at least not from a legal standpoint. Second and more worrisome to me is criminalizing non-action can lead to unintended consequences. Do we really want a third person deciding what level of non-action is criminal? Was the deputy a coward? Yes! Did the deputy fail to live up to what the community expects from a law enforcement officer? Yes! Was the deputy criminally negligent? No! Criminal Negligence requires more overt action then not doing anything at least in this instance.
And add to this the fact the Sheriff is just putting blame on the easy target and not on himself and his running of the department.

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Avatary2tazz New sheriff. The old sheriff at the time if this tragedy should be charged for a lot of things.

Charli
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Sure, but like other counties in Florida, the sheriff is an elected position, so you are not necessarily getting an intelligent law enforcement person who understands laws and how to protect the community from criminals. Very often (and I will BET looney-boonies like Broward Cty are electing number-crunchers who know nothing about law enforcement) the sheriff’s job is a save money, not protect the citizenry.

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An elected official who’s not necessarily intelligent. Yep

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The old sheriff was a political hack in Florida who was friends with the Clintons and other Dimocrat elites. Need I say more?

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Lillie BelleLillie Belle That would be none other than, Scott Israel, a big Hillary Clinton supporter.

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All any of us need to know is that he was an unarmed (by Broward County laws) school cop and that Broward politicians hate all law enforcement, even when they cannot be reasonably expected to do their job for lack of proper tools. Law enforcement would do well to move to counties where their talents are respected and wanted! Let the commie-socialist progressives recruit their idea of what they think they want….you know….like Chicago.

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Not true. He was armed with his duty pistol.

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He was not unarmed.
His training and duty was to engage, delay, and if possible contain the subject until back up arrived.
He was a coward and LET kids get slaughtered.
It was the neighboring city’s LEO’s that engaged and caught the perp. Broward County is corrupt and deputies were handed badges and pensions as “political” favors in many cases.
Quit defending these scum, they don’t deserve the reasonable doubt. I’ve read the report, and it is far worse that then #FakeNewsMedia reports. Peterson could have stopped Cruz BEFORE he entered the school and decided not too, thus the criminal negligence charges.

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“It was the neighboring city’s LEO’s that engaged and caught the perp.”

As I remember they got in some sort of trouble for apprehending Cruz.

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Nope. FDLE dismissed those concerns which were lodged by the Coward Country Sheriff. They were lauded for acting instead of sitting on their hands.

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His job was to protect the school.

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove I completely agree, but how in the world can you protect the school from a shooter if you’re not armed! Total insanity!

One thing I know about my kid’s high school here in MN, they had two armed security (one was a police officer) at the front entrance. All doors were locked during school hours with the exception of the front door. Obviously, kids could leave, but they couldn’t get back in. If anything, that would be where a shooter could potentially get in, but this has not happened. There were also some teachers who conceal-carried. Believe it or not, this particular school at least (and it was a public school), seemed to be in step with common sense, something not seen in awhile in Broward County.

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Rae from MinnesotaRae from Minnesota I never heard that he was unarmed, and the rest of the Broward County officers who showed up and stood behind the safety of their patrol cars certainly were.

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Maybe this is a just country still. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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Wow, just wow…..

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Warren v. District of Columbia. Law enforcement has no legal duty to protect.

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This is Florida NOT the District of Columbia

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That’s a Federal court. Since the Confederacy lost, Florida is still included in their ruling.

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Here you go tell them how wrong they are Florida Department of Law Enforcement · Phone
4211 N Lois Ave, Tampa, FL 33614
(813) 878-7300

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Except that the sheriffs elected in FL counties are not necessarily worth a damned as far as actual law enforcement goes. Broward, especially, is a lawless slacker county that does not respect officers of the law.

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Broward is ONE county CharliCharli you’re wrong about the majority of our state’s sheriffs

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I hope you are right, Ruthie. When we lived in SW FL, all of the sheriffs were awesome (but it was a conservative area too); even then, we often heard not so nice things about the counties across the Alligator. We have also met great sheriff’s on the panhandle of FL, but that has been awhile. I am glad you are happy with your elected officials where you are and I pray it stays that way!

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CharliCharli I have to disagree , we’ve had and have some great Sheriffs.

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Maybe. When we lived and raised our kids on the southern Gulf Coast of FL full time, we had great sheriffs, but our friends in Broward, Dade and up in Duval Counties often complained of theirs…in fact, our friend who moved to the mountains in Northern AZ from Broward last year did so because they were finally able to retire (early) and the politics there sickened them to the point that they fled. Now we are retired and move between Northeast FL and South Central TX in Hill Country. I am relieved that we raised our kids when we did and that we no longer have to worry about most of the things of this world today. When you retire, it helps to give it all to God and His infinite wisdom, thanking him always for His Grace in our lives and knowing that we do not have much longer… Read more »

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I worked for Suffolk County PD on Long Island before moving here and have nothing but praise for the sheriff’s here. We had a lot of interaction with them. When we moved here I worked for FHP for awhile trust me when I say you are under the wrong impression as one who knows them behind the scenes.

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I am not arguing that sheriff’s deputies and most all law enforcement are awesome; however, some of the elected people, who have run for sheriff in some of the counties in Florida, are not actual police officers and do not have actual law enforcement training. I cannot remember the name or county of one that was forced to resign just a few years before we left, but that has been 20 years ago (+/-). If things have improved that much over the past couple of decades, that is wonderful and the state is moving in the right direction. I sure hope so, because we are rapidly coming to the conclusion that, despite our love for our area of Texas, we are likely to move to FL full-time, as it is closer to family. At our age, that is more important than most things.

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I think you are woefully misinformed about the requirements and training for our sheriffs, deputies, and all LEOs in our state. I’ll leave it at that.

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Off base there Charli, don’t get caught up in presuppositions.
And you might want to use a much narrower brush.

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Trickle-down accountability.

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….and “the Broward Sheriff’s Office and the first responders are now better prepared and trained to respond to an active shooter situation”.So Sheriff Tony who failed his Deputies for not having them prepared for this kind of situation,instead blames others for a situation they were not prepared to go into. Why wasn’t Sheriff Toney fired for his incompetency of not having them prepared. If trained properly prior to the shooting, maybe they could have saved lives and been Heros. Sheriff Tony’s failure as well as other leaders on his staff to have all Deputies trained in a situation like this was a complete failure on his part Sheriff Toney and his Staff should have been fired for their incompetence.

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Avatarbigsir74 Sheriff Tony was not the Broward Co. Sheriff when this incident happened. Scott Israel was the infamous sheriff then, and he should be sitting behind bars!

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Wow what a mistake on my part,I have some changes to make.Thanks Lillie

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The coward from Broward was arrested, who would of thunk it?

As an aside,
Scroll, scroll…read.
Back to top,
Scroll scroll ….read.
Going to be tough, following a long thread.

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I agree. A real pain in the tush.

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Peterson was close to retirement so Scott Israel allowed him to go on and retire with his pension. That pension should be revoked or whatever the proper word is for taking it away from him. Do I remember right that he wouldn’t even allow other arriving deputies to go in the building? I hope these are charges that can hold, and he is convicted and all appeals fail.

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I think ex Sheriff Israel should be charged as well.

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As well as the captain (I think) that had deputies staging rather than acting. I wonder if any kids could’ve been saved not only for not being shot due confrontation of the shooter. but also if the shooter had been gotten under control and EMS allowed to enter the building to help them. It all makes me so sad to think about.

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SquirrellySquirrelly It does me too.

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Proud NanaProud Nana there was definitely something wrong with Israel’s lack of leadership for this dereliction of duty to occur under his watch by more than one officer. He’s getting off easy if he’s not charged.

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@Abe Lincoln. I could not agree more. Israel has been under scrutiny many times before , he thought he was untouchable until Gov. DeSantis showed him otherwise and fired him.

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Exactly, and probably a few others. Israel set department policy.
I consider myself a pretty good tactical pistolero and I can tell you Peterson hesitation to get into the gun fight, do his job, probably stemmed from lack of confidence with his gun.
Way to many donuts, not near enough range time. And that falls back on Israel again.

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AvatarB_Rad Exactly.

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If I know FDLE like I think I do I say patience grasshopper Proud NanaProud Nana

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Yes indeedy,and what does the Sheriff have to say”and now the Deputies are better prepared”.He is telling us at the time Scott Petersen was not prepared for that kind of situation.Scott Pedersen acted like a rookie right out of the Academy and probably never had any inservice training in the twenty years of service. Sheriff Israel has no one to to blame but himself.

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Avatarbigsir74 It was Sheriff Israel, I’m so glad Gov. DeSantis fired his sorry behind.

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Thanks Nana. I really appreciate you and Lillie Belle alerting me to the mistake.

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Avatarbigsir74 We all do that , have a great evening !

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While this feels satisfying, I have ethical questions about criminally charging somebody for failing to risk their lives in a deadly situation. Is he a coward? Yes. Should he be fired? Yes again. Should he hang his cowardly head in shame? Yes for a third time. But….
Did his actions amount to criminal neglect? This is a stretch and we need to be careful using the blunt force of criminal law for issues like this.

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Did his actions amount to criminal neglect YES cops swear an oath this is not a stretch. We don’t pay them to duck and hide.

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And he should no longer be a cop. He should be fired. His pension should be surrendered. He should perhaps be civilly liable for dereliction of duty. All true.

But criminal charges? Really?

Come on, people. This is what the Left does. Every thing they dislike is criminalized. We are better than them and I have a real issue with the law being used this way.

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Oh cmon this isn’t a Right VS Left issue. Criminal charges YES.

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I disagree. The rule of law is certainly a left vs Right thing. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Here Avatarchurchillis1 read further what the FDLE ( Florida Dept of Law Enforcement ) and the Broward State Attorney says and if you still don’t understand why the criminal charges don’t know what to tell you. This is the LAW they are talking about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-deputy-charged-after-staying-outside-school-shooting/ar-AAConWn?ocid=spartanntp

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I read the law. But, let’s be clear what we are talking about here. We’re disgusted that this guy didn’t run into the gunfight and risk his life to save children’s lives. We are perfectly reasonable to demand that a policeman be willing to uphold his oath and do this. When he doesn’t, he doesn’t deserve to wear the badge or collect the pay anymore. I would even agree that he could be civilly sued for dereliction if duty. But, the criminal law is not designed to force people to risk their lives for somebody else. He shouldn’t be a cop anymore and he deserves all the acrimony we heap on his shameful head. But we don’t get to use the law to now make his behavior criminal. Think of the door you’re opening up here, for the love of Pete. The next time a cop doesn’t risk his life… Read more »

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Apparently you know better than the FDLE and the County/State attorney that there are actual honest to God LAWS on the books he broke, alrighty then let’s take up a collection and bail him out and buy him an annual pass to Walt Disney World. I let 17 kids die what am I going to do now? Go to WDW…good grief. This is exhausting.

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I love your posts usually, Ruth. So, I’ll let pass the fact that you appear to be purposefully ignoring the fact that I have blasted this coward repeatedly. I just believe we should be very careful how we use the long and powerful arm of our criminal justice system.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. You’re a wonderful and thoughtful poster and I won’t let a disagreement on an issue like this make me forget that.

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Mutual

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A question ? I thought Peterson took retirement after the shooting ( he was very close to retiring anyway.) There was a question at to his pension and I thought that the retirement fixed that.

This article says he is still employed. I must have been asleep or something as I thought I watched this case closely and was very angry at the way Israel handled the whole thing.

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Avatarhaypa2 link above will answer your questions

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It calls him “former” deputy. I had to re-read it, too, since it says he cannot ever be employed with Broward County Sheriff’s office. I guess that’s if he thought he was going to go back to work with them.

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Avatarchurchillis1 It was widely speculated and all but confirmed that several lives of wounded were lost during the delay in locating the shooter, in addition to lives that might have been saved had the deputies done their sworn duty and entered the school instead of hiding outside! I don’t like the feeling of the criminal charges, but I do think they are right in this instance.

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Avatarchurchillis1 Ask the grieving families those questions. In all due respect he was hired and paid to protect lives, he didn’t.
I’m the Mom of a retired Sheriffs Deputy and I have nothing but respect for almost all of our LEO.

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He’s scum and he should be treated as such. But to use the criminal process this way is not how we do things in America….at least it didn’t used to be.

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Avatarchurchillis1 In this case he is a criminal , he let those innocent young people die when he could have helped them.

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Proud NanaProud Nana I linked to him above where all the laws he broke are spelled out in plain English per FDLE & the new sheriff in town

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It’s not a stretch to hold him criminally liable for his cowardice that day? How many lives were lost because of his refusal to do his job?

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17

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It’s dereliction of duty that resulted in death of children.

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What was the scope of his duties as a police officer and as the resource officer at the school? I think neglect & negligence are spot on for what he did, but I’m not a lawyer.

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The one thing we seem to be missing in this thread is the unhinged bloodlust that usually goes with these kinds of stories.

Where’s all the “hang the bastard!” and “taxpayer relief shots!” and “boy if I’d been there I wouldn’t have hesitated to kill him” that we usually see?

This thread is really missing that violent psychopathy that rears his head when otherwise sane people decide they want “justice.”

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AT- If you actually care about this issue instead of just trolling. …

Maybe you should stick to commenting on the story instead of commenting on how people are commenting. I know you’re happy as a pig in crap, cheesing everybody off, but is that really where you want to be when Jesus comes back?
(Btw, I have to give and take this same advice to myself often when I’m enjoying myself riling people up, so don’t think I’m judging you too harshly.)

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I care about this issue insofar as its part of a larger issue, which is itself an issue in how people regard the subject of policing, law enforcement, and criminal justice in America. Which a disturbing number of them are woefully on the wrong side of things.

But yes, I will admit that I am indeed having a peach of a time delighting in watching the pretzel logic as they collectively damn me for the arguments and rhetoric they’ve relied on countless times on the subject. I wonder how many are getting headaches from the cognitive dissonance.

I, on the other hand, don’t have that problem. My stance and arguments remain consistent. Because they’re the correct ones.

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Reread Sheriff Israel’s statement.Only after this deadly shooting has his Deputies been receiving needed training to go into a deadly shooting situation similar to this shooting.If the Deputies are trained for this type of situation and they do not perform,then shame on them.,however, if they have not received the proper training then shame on Israel..

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Bravo and glad to hear it, one of the worse counties in FL. A vipers nest of corruption and shame from the animal control dept to these fools. God willing things will be on the right track to change things.

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You mean it’s not a gun control issues?

Proud Nana
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Good news and long overdo.

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I wouldn’t say they’re overdoing it at all.

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AvatarBacon-Munching Infidel Neither did I, it took awhile but he’s finally facing what he didn’t do,to serve and protect.

Joe Pein
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Love that handle!

AT
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What a tragedy. I thought blue lives mattered. I guess they don’t. sad

Proud Nana
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@AT, you’re confused on this subject, young innocent lives mattered while the coward did nothing to help them , smh…

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Look, cops make mistakes. They’re only human. They have a tough job. We have to give them a lot of respect and deference and understand that they are heroes one and all because they put on that badge and go out into dangerous situations. [Insert further cop deferential platitudes]. So, blue lives matter PN. Blue lives matter. All mistakes should be forgiven and understood.

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Hiding from the gun fight is not a mistake. It’s an act of cowardice. He’s been collecting a salary for how long for this one moment. How many young lives could he have saved? If I’m there and armed, I’m going in. That’s some stinkin thinken pal.

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Apparently you aren’t familiar with our resident cop hater SHE yes she loves to bait people into an argument. Because we defend LEOs against her rhetoric she is now on this tangent. Look the other way AvatarB_Rad best free advice you’ll get all day I promise.

AT
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I don’t think there are any cop haters on this site. What are you talking about?

Oh, and LOL, the one time I defend a LEO you’re against it! What the heck is that about? Starting to think your obsession isn’t with LEOs, ruth – but with yours truly.

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RuthIE and you damn well know it but that’s what you do to show how disrespectful you are ATAT Yes there is a cop hater here and everyone knows it’s you. You want to defend a LEO that is as useless as you are, he caused kids to die….what kind of freak defends him?????? Oh you

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I think I may be the only voice in this thread NOT espousing cop hate, ruthers. Think about that.

You want to defend a LEO that is as useless as you are, he caused kids to die…

Folks do that all the time. A young unarmed brother gets put on a slab because he spooks a meddling and/or trigger-happy cop and you’re like, “Eh, just doing his job.” When the reality is that cop fell down on that job and caused kids to die.

Now we’re dealing with the same thing – bad cop, poor execution of job, dead kids – and y’all immediately do a 180 pivot on your blue lives matter crap.

Fancy that.

ruthiedoggiemom
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Don’t you have a sweet meteor of death to pray for ? As long as it just lands on you

AT
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I already said those prayers today.

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Proud NanaProud Nana AT has a problem with law enforcement. But we knew that.

AT
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Incorrect.

Dr. Strangelove
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ATAT Write one of your meandering dissertations and tell us all about it.

AT
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This hardly seems the time or the place here, Doc. We’re here to honor one of our fallen. What’s wrong with you.

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Yes we sure do Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove . Acts like she cares only when she knows the Officer was wrong !

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I can’t believe I’m being argued with and vilified for saying that blue lives matter. You all do it ALL the time when cops are in the wrong – but the one time I do it…

Sheesh, you guys.

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ATAT Then don’t be a hypocrite.

ruthiedoggiemom
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She just said we defend the cops all the time even when they are wrong did you read that Proud NanaProud Nana ? S M D H

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Yes, you do that. They are constantly given the benefit of the doubt; behaviors excused, justified, rationalized; shade thrown at the “bad guy” who “deserves” what he gets, etc ad nauseum.

You defend bad cops CONSTANTLY – because of your prejudices that cause you to give them deference. Rather than being objective on the subject, you tout your “proud LEO support” and lose your shit at the slightest criticism of them or their behavior.

Yea, you do that ALL THE TIME. You in particular, about about a half-dozen more in this thread.

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Have you considered that the hypocrisy might be on your guys’ part?

If I were to condemn this bad cop who failed at doing his job correctly and dead kids resulted, I would be 100% consistent in my positions on cops, law enforcement, and blue lives matter.

Does it not seem odd to you that you are now in an inconsistent position with all the crap you’ve vomited up to defend bad cops in the past?

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Never defended a BAD cop in my life only defended them to YOU that has them guilty as charged ALL THE TIME until proven innocent. Good Grief The Right ScoopThe Right Scoop can’t you take away ATAT ‘s ” Noble member” status Lord nothing Noble about her

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lol

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You’re being “argued with and vilified” for being facetious.

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It’s not facetiousness, Matt. No no, it’s something else entirely.

It’s the mirror baby. And folks ain’t liking what they see.

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Hey ,don’t include me,I gave you an up vote its way up yonder though.

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I never include you. You’re my favorite person on the internet. smile

bigsir74
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Can I keep my bright red sweat shirt that reads’Sorry ladies,I’m already like a brother to someone else”

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove But look how much negative attention AT generated from trolling. That’s exactly what he/she/it wants.

Dr. Strangelove
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@ttt My bad. I know better than to feed the trolls.

AT
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I’m just glad to finally see people breaking away from that blind undying deference to the notion that our automatic heroes in blue can do no wrong. That’s a very refreshing thing to see.

I don’t think we’ve ever had a thread this critical of Blue Lives Matter, where folks agree that cops should get a whole lot more scrutiny over and accountability for their failings. Truly, truly a wonderful shift in thinking. Thank you all for this. It’s nice to finally be vindicated on the subject as you all agree that I’ve been right this whole time.

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Pathetic straw man.

AT
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Why does it bother you so much to finally agree with me, TT?

trytothink
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You could have stopped at your third word.

AT
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Are you some kind of cop-hating anarchist?

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I think you enjoy being disagreeable for disagreeable’s sake.

AT
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It’s more that I like taking accepted thinking and turning it on its head to see if it can still stand. The thing about principles is, they can whether the extreme.

If it can’t, it means there’s something wrong with it. Or they’re not valid principles to begin with.

DemocratsRFubar
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Too bad usually it’s not succinct.

ryan-o
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There’s no winning is there?

Dr. Strangelove
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ryan-oryan-o No,but there’s plenty of whining.

AT
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Am I the only one with empathy here?

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ATAT More like hypocritical . I’ve read many of your post where you bash all LEO.

AT
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And look at what folks are doing here. Bashing a LEO. And why? Because the job got tough and he came up short in doing it correctly, and some folks got dead.

Oh, but when I complain about that it’s all “cop hater” this and “anarchy” that. But when you do it it’s all perfectly OK.

And I’m the hypocrite? Don’t think so bro.

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ATAT smh, you’re such a hypocrite . Why not defend when our LEO deserve to be defended.

AT
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I do. The cops with body cams especially, since they’re usually vindicated right then and there.

The ones that aren’t? Well, I say that we should HIGHLY scrutinize them. You seem to be more of the position that they should get the benefit of the doubt (where as the perp absolutely should not). Which one of us is correct?

Me. It’s me.

AT
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Give the man a prize.

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Don’t be obtuse.

AT
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I’m not. I’m actually swelling with joy at all my TRS friends who have finally admitted (if only tacitly and reservedly) that I’ve been right about this subject the whole time and come around to the right position.

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facepalmg

ryan-o
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The Peterson guy was a straight up coward. Derelict in his duties is an understatement.

C.W. Smith
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Wow.

sjmom
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Justice served.

CruzGal
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How likely are these charges to stick?

They clearly didn’t do their jobs but a good lawyer might be able to wiggle out of them.

Dr. Strangelove
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CruzGalCruzGal He’s fired and arrested. He won’t be able to work loss prevention at Walmart.

Sentinel
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Finally.

CruzGal
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Do you think the charges will stick?

I’m not a lawyer so I don’t really know. I just hope they didn’t over charge. I hope they went with what they know they can prove.

Dr. Strangelove
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Justice!

hubman
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Not yet. Maybe one day.

Dr. Strangelove
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hubmanhubman He’ll never work in law enforcement again.

hubman
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True enough. That’s a small measure of justice.

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