BREAKING: The 9th Circuit gives Trump a rare victory on asylum policy!

Just a few moments ago the 9th Circuit court of appeals gave Trump a rare victory on his policy to keep asylum seekers in Mexico, reversing a prior injunction to allow his administration to continue with the policy while the case is being heard:



BOOM!

Hopefully this is an indication of how the 9th Circuit will eventually rule on the case. It’s the 9th Circuit, so I don’t hold your breath. But this is very cool!

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68 thoughts on “BREAKING: The 9th Circuit gives Trump a rare victory on asylum policy!

  1. Yo yo yo yo yo! Whassup? Oh, and this is like a yo-yo. Someone in the 9th must have made a (good) mistake. Or the wine was particularly good and plentiful…

  2. As some of you may know, I just got back from attending a big family gathering this past week to honor the passing of a beloved cousin. Most of these family members are lifelong Dems, some, including my brother, very liberal. So, while I dearly love and respect them all, and they love and respect me, I was going behind political enemy lines, but I was determined to try to find common ground and not do anything to spoil the time we had together, especially in respect to my departed cousin.

    Well, guess what? While it’s true that nearly all of them still deeply despise Trump, there were some surprises: 1) one of my cousins and her husband will probably vote for Trump in 2020 (!) – didn’t see that coming! – and 2) EVERYONE I spoke to was AGAINST illegal immigration and fed up with what’s going on at the border. They KNOW there is a crisis, a huge one, and they want it fixed.

    They also don’t like the idea of people getting “free” handouts. So while they will probably vote for whoever opposes Trump, the Dem candidates going far Left is not appealing to them.

    More later…

      1. @dr-strangelove Don’t get me wrong, Trump has a wall of hate in front of him that is formidable. But when I asked my brother, a real energy scientist, about the GND, he laughed at it like the joke it is. (Whew!)

        But the more interesting thing was when I asked him which of the 20+ Dem candidates he supports at this point (he liked Warren last time around) he said well he’d like to see Warren head some Banking Commission or something like that but he said not for President because she “knows nothing about foreign affairs.” As for the rest, he said, strangely, “I really don’t know much about any of them.”

        My cue to change the subject.

        And if the Dems think their “base” is ready for Socialism they are reading the wrong tea leaves.

        1. I recently had a visit, kind of a spur of the moment thing, with my Brother and my three Sisters up in Libland (North Jersey) and had a wonderful
          time since we basically avoided politics. But little snippets here and
          there told me that there is more Conservatism deep down inside
          a Lib than they are willing to admit and most of the time they are not even aware of it. Might there be hope?

      2. @dr-strangelove Don’t get me wrong, Trump has a wall of hate in front of him that is formidable. But when I asked my brother, a real energy scientist, about the GND, he laughed at it like the joke it is. (Whew!)

        But the more interesting thing was when I asked him which of the 20+ Dem candidates he supports at this point (he liked Warren last time around) he said well he’d like to see Warren head some Banking Commission or something like that but he said not for President because she “knows nothing about foreign affairs.” As for the rest, he said, strangely, “I really don’t know much about any of them.”

        My cue to change the subject.

        And if the Dems think their “base” is ready for Socialism they are reading the wrong tea leaves.

  3. So glad to see this. There really isn’t any good reason they should have to wait here if Mexico is allowing them to come there. Hmmmmm……..maybe some on the 9th Circus drove to the border to see how bad it is???

  4. I don’t know how many justices are on the courts of appeal, but two have been appointed to the 9th by Trump if I’m remembering correctly. Maybe the Democrats’ play thing has been taken away from them. The courts are VERY important to the left, and this is definitely a big reason why it’s so important to them that Trump not get a 2nd term. Ginsburg won’t be on SCOTUS through a 2nd Trump term either. Makes the idea of voting for him in 2020 more joyful.

    1. There are… a lot of judges on the ninth circuit. The three on this panel were appointed by Obama, Clinton, and Reagan.

  5. Jeez, did you read Watford’s “concurrence?” It’s like an instruction manual to all the border jumpers. And he wants to build in a poison pill that compels DHS to give those subject to the MPP an immediate out.

    “There is, of course, a simple way for DHS to help ensure that the United States lives up to its non-refoulement obligations: DHS can ask asylum seekers whether they fear persecution or torture in Mexico. I’m at a loss to understand how an agency whose professed goal is to comply with non-refoulement principles could rationally decide not to ask that question, particularly when immigration officers are already conducting one-on-one interviews with each applicant. This policy of refusing to ask seems particularly irrational when contrasted with how DHS attempts to uphold the United States’ non-refoulement obligations in expedited removal proceedings.”

    I expect that appropriate relief for this arbitrary and capricious aspect of the MPP’s implementation will involve (at the very least) an injunction directing DHS to ask applicants for admission whether they fear being returned to Mexico.”

    aka. Yea, sure, you can make them wait in Mexico. But you should HAVE to ask if they’re afraid to, and if they say yes – which they all will be coached to do – then they get to stay.

    1. And then Fletcher’s dissent was basically, “Our procedures for this hearing suck. F_ck you guys.”

  6. Py—-Doc, I keep dreaming that a thief is stealing my money and giving it to the illegals.
    Doc–You’re not dreaming…the thief is the IRS

  7. Jeez, did you read Watford’s “concurrence?” It’s like an instruction manual to all the border jumpers. And he wants to build in a poison pill that compels DHS to give those subject to the MPP an immediate out.

    “There is, of course, a simple way for DHS to help ensure that the United States lives up to its non-refoulement obligations: DHS can ask asylum seekers whether they fear persecution or torture in Mexico. I’m at a loss to understand how an agency whose professed goal is to comply with non-refoulement principles could rationally decide not to ask that question, particularly when immigration officers are already conducting one-on-one interviews with each applicant. This policy of refusing to ask seems particularly irrational when contrasted with how DHS attempts to uphold the United States’ non-refoulement obligations in expedited removal proceedings.”

    I expect that appropriate relief for this arbitrary and capricious aspect of the MPP’s implementation will involve (at the very least) an injunction directing DHS to ask applicants for admission whether they fear being returned to Mexico.”

    aka. Yea, sure, you can make them wait in Mexico. But you should HAVE to ask if they’re afraid to, and if they say yes – which they all will be coached to do – then they get to stay.

  8. In other left coast news, San Francisco has banned the use of facial recognition software by law enforcement. Mugshots were programmed in and then 28 members of Congress, including 6 members of the black caucus, were identified by the system. The ACLU is screaming about it, but I don’t see any problems.

    1. First they use it to find criminals. Then they use it when you go to a pro 2A rally to find information on you. No thanks. Every additional govt. power has come to be abused. Can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m with the ACLU on this one.

      1. @Chow I’m not. The ACLU is about protecting the criminal. I see your point, though. You really can’t trust the government with anything like this these days.

        1. I know what you mean. I’m not with the ACLU in that sense. I just agree with disagreeing with the policy. Their motivation has nothing to actually do with civil rights. Other than this particular instance, the ACLU can f*ck right off.

  9. Random homeless guy breaks into your house. You call the cops to remove him. He claims asylum.

    Previously, the 9th Circus said you have to let the homeless man live in your house until the case is decided.

    Now, they say you’re allowed to throw him out.

    1. @Texas Chris I have a recurring dream of coming home and finding a family illegals living in my house.

    2. “Officer, I was forced to shoot. Look! He has one of my kitchen knives laying next to him with his prints on the handle.”

  10. Yo yo yo yo yo! Whassup? Oh, and this is like a yo-yo. Someone in the 9th must have made a (good) mistake. Or the wine was particularly good and plentiful…

  11. Py—-Doc, I keep dreaming that a thief is stealing my money and giving it to the illegals.
    Doc–You’re not dreaming…the thief is the IRS

  12. In other left coast news, San Francisco has banned the use of facial recognition software by law enforcement. Mugshots were programmed in and then 28 members of Congress, including 6 members of the black caucus, were identified by the system. The ACLU is screaming about it, but I don’t see any problems.

  13. Random homeless guy breaks into your house. You call the cops to remove him. He claims asylum.

    Previously, the 9th Circus said you have to let the homeless man live in your house until the case is decided.

    Now, they say you’re allowed to throw him out.

  14. Did hell just freeze over that the 9th Circuit did the right thing? Pigs fly?

  15. So glad to see this. There really isn’t any good reason they should have to wait here if Mexico is allowing them to come there. Hmmmmm……..maybe some on the 9th Circus drove to the border to see how bad it is???

  16. As some of you may know, I just got back from attending a big family gathering this past week to honor the passing of a beloved cousin. Most of these family members are lifelong Dems, some, including my brother, very liberal. So, while I dearly love and respect them all, and they love and respect me, I was going behind political enemy lines, but I was determined to try to find common ground and not do anything to spoil the time we had together, especially in respect to my departed cousin.

    Well, guess what? While it’s true that nearly all of them still deeply despise Trump, there were some surprises: 1) one of my cousins and her husband will probably vote for Trump in 2020 (!) – didn’t see that coming! – and 2) EVERYONE I spoke to was AGAINST illegal immigration and fed up with what’s going on at the border. They KNOW there is a crisis, a huge one, and they want it fixed.

    They also don’t like the idea of people getting “free” handouts. So while they will probably vote for whoever opposes Trump, the Dem candidates going far Left is not appealing to them.

    More later…

      1. @dr-strangelove Don’t get me wrong, Trump has a wall of hate in front of him that is formidable. But when I asked my brother, a real energy scientist, about the GND, he laughed at it like the joke it is. (Whew!)

        But the more interesting thing was when I asked him which of the 20+ Dem candidates he supports at this point (he liked Warren last time around) he said well he’d like to see Warren head some Banking Commission or something like that but he said not for President because she “knows nothing about foreign affairs.” As for the rest, he said, strangely, “I really don’t know much about any of them.”

        My cue to change the subject.

        And if the Dems think their “base” is ready for Socialism they are reading the wrong tea leaves.

        1. I recently had a visit, kind of a spur of the moment thing, with my Brother and my three Sisters up in Libland (North Jersey) and had a wonderful
          time since we basically avoided politics. But little snippets here and
          there told me that there is more Conservatism deep down inside
          a Lib than they are willing to admit and most of the time they are not even aware of it. Might there be hope?

          1. @nygino “Might there be hope?” This indeed is the question. My experience sounds exactly like yours. And I have long believed that most mainstream Dems personally live their lives in a conservative way (personal responsibility, appreciating traditional values, work ethic, etc).

            This past week of course I also avoided politics but when the subject came up I tried whenever I could to emphasize common ground and hit the jackpot with the subject of illegals.

            I also tried to stress the point that the media is invested in convincing both sides that we are miles apart, hopelessly divided, when in fact, our differences aren’t that great. NOTE: When I say “not that great” I am referring to your ordinary liberal Dem family and friends, NOT the wacko Leftists that talk about infanticide, 72 genders, and the GND.

            AND I made sure to say that our side is being unfairly portrayed as being racist. I felt I had a good opportunity to drive that one home.

          2. Back when I was a drunk and a liberal, I got into knock-down, drag-out arguments about abortion with my girlfriend. I was always on the pro-life side, so probably you’re right.

            1. Btw, I never brought up the abortion issue. I strongly suspect we can find common ground on third trimester abortions and certainly infanticide (I’ve done this before with very liberal friends) but I didn’t want to open up another can of worms.

        2. What’s GND? Girl next door? Gross national dummies?

          And BTW, I think that they’re smoking the tea leaves.

            1. Seriously, I looked up GND and didn’t find anything that fit. I know you’ll tell me and I’ll smack my forehead.

  17. The 9th circus court is really just that–a circus court! It’s an extension of the Democrat party. They are doing this only after Trump threatened to release illegals in sanctuary cities and after a host of Democrats objected!

  18. I don’t know how many justices are on the courts of appeal, but two have been appointed to the 9th by Trump if I’m remembering correctly. Maybe the Democrats’ play thing has been taken away from them. The courts are VERY important to the left, and this is definitely a big reason why it’s so important to them that Trump not get a 2nd term. Ginsburg won’t be on SCOTUS through a 2nd Trump term either. Makes the idea of voting for him in 2020 more joyful.

    1. There are… a lot of judges on the ninth circuit. The three on this panel were appointed by Obama, Clinton, and Reagan.

  19. The 9th circus court is really just that–a circus court! It’s an extension of the Democrat party. They are doing this only after Trump threatened to release illegals in sanctuary cities and after a host of Democrats objected!

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