[BIG UPDATE: “Trump likes Chairman Kim and…”] — Trump reverses new Treasury sanctions against N. Korea

In a strange announcement, Trump has publicly said he is reversing new sanctions announced by his own Treasury department against North Korea.

Here’s the tweet from Trump:

“It was announced today by the U.S. Treasury that additional large scale Sanctions would be added to those already existing Sanctions on North Korea. I have today ordered the withdrawal of those additional Sanctions!”

I’m sure the Treasury department is wondering….what the heck?



According to The Hill, the sanctions may have been against a Chinese company helping North Korea avert the already imposed sanctions:

The Treasury Department on Thursday announced it was imposing new sanctions on two Chinese shipping companies accused of helping North Korea evade existing sanctions.

But that announcement was not made within the timetable included in Trump’s tweet and the sanctions were not seen as major penalties against Pyongyang.

In other words, Trump said these sanctions were announced today, but these North Korea/Chinese sanctions were announced yesterday. Trump also added the sanctions announced today were ‘large scale’, which sounds bigger than the sanctions against the Chinese company.

I checked the announcement page of the Treasury Department and the only sanctions announced today have to do with Iran, not North Korea. So at this point we’re not sure what exactly Trump is talking about.

Given the imprecise nature of some of Trump’s tweets, it’s possible that he is referring to the sanctions against the Chinese company, which would then raise questions as to whether this reversal has anything to do with his trade negotiations with China.

 
UPDATE: Well this is interesting…

Especially in light of yesterday’s announced sanctions regarding the Chinese company helping N. Korea avert our current sanctions, this sounds very strange to me.

If Kim doesn’t already respect our current sanctions, how is it that Trump can make such a statement? I just don’t get it.

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Talitha
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Trump needs to face the fact that Kim isn’t going to get rid of those nukes no matter what. They’re his ticket to the big boy’s table. And if he keeps flirting with negotiations, it will gain him time to come up with a rocket that can blast us with an electromagnetic pulse that can send us back to the Stone Age. Levin is big on this page; he laid out the threat of that beautifully back when Obama was still President.

Once Trump has faced all those facts, he needs to put the pressure on and keep it on until there’s something that looks like Kim backing down a little. Again, he’ll never completely get rid of the nukes. Our best bet is to keep him from using them during a Republican administration.

JJJ
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Definition of Irony: Sanctions against other countries: Bad! (For whom they are imposed) Sanctions against our own country (i.e. trade tariffs): Good! (For whom they are imposed)

kong1967
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I didn’t know sanctions could be given without the President’s approval anyway. That said, I’m on the fence here as to whether Trump is off his rocker or not. On one hand I can see the need for more sanctions because Un isn’t complying. On the other hand maybe Trump believes it’s best to stay course and not destroy already volatile negotiations. At some point he’s going to have to give up on Un coming through and drop the hammer.

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This could mean nothing more than that Trump thought the sanctions would be counterproductive to a deal he’s trying to work out. As in giving Kim the message, “We’re holding off on the sanctions for now, because we’re just sure we can all come to an understanding.

Don’t forget: there’s nothing sacred about sanctions. They’re a means to an end. If easing off on the sanctions helps convince North Korea to make a deal, they’ve accomplished their purpose.

Ronbo
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Why are people always Trumpsplaining?

K-Bob
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Yes, why are you always explaining how good things Trump does are bad?

Ronbo
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Why do people who support Trump do it like a Stepford wife? Should we applaud Trump for making announcements nobody understands? Do Trump supporters have any objectivity or are they all the same drones they criticized when Obama was President? Hmmm.

kong1967
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RonboRonbo You might want to look in the mirror. You don’t have any objectivity either. It’s always “Trump bad”.

Ronbo
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You are very ill. It’s not true. I’ve writte many times about things that I think he has done well and approve of.
Just another example of Trumpdefense.
Speak first, facts later.

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RonboRonbo I’m ill? That’s silly and it has nothing to do with defending Trump. On this subject I haven’t defended his decision as being wrong or right. But you are attacking people for defending him as if they are automatically Trump humpers. Yet you get offended if someone says the same thing about you for attacking Trump all the time.

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Ronbo Why are people always assuming their negative take is the only possible explanation? Part of what Trump does is negotiate with people who are not exactly friends of the US. That’s part of the job of president. The media, like children, always want him to denounce the person he’s trying to negotiate with. That might be emotionally satisfying, but foreign policy deals with sometimes-unsavory dictators. Like Kim. I’ll stand by my statement. The point of sanctions is not to make us feel good about taking a stand, but to apply pressure to a foreign nation. You’re not going to make Kim a Good Guy, but getting him to “play ball” is a worthy goal. We even have a phrase for this kind of thing, the carrot and the stick. Sometimes you offer a carrot, sometimes you get a stick. Sometimes you get more results from brandishing a stick than… Read more »

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Part of what Trump does is negotiate with people who are not exactly friends of the US. That’s part of the job of president. That’s generally understood by anyone over the age of 10. The problem that most people have with this is the way that Trump does it. He doesn’t need to offer the kind of glowing praise that he habitually heaps on a murderous dictator like Kim, or offer the kind of concessions he has, such as first cancelling our joint military exercises with South Korea (something that’s long been on the North’s list of psychotic demands) and now this, in exchange for basically nothing in return. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe this is part of some grand Master Plan, and maybe there is literal diplomatic magic being worked behind the scenes, in total secrecy, with the eventual result being that Kim will suddenly decide to give up his… Read more »

kong1967
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hubmanhubman Yes, and doing so could cause Rocketman to boil over and withdraw from negotiations altogether. Trump has more faith than I do.

bigsir74
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I hope the two Chinese shipping freighter companies are associated with Mitch McConnell,his wife [Elaine Chou] and her families

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I understand Trump’s perception that he needs room to negotiate. But, this is still a terrible decision. This little turd isn’t Gorbachev and N. Korea isn’t the USSR. We don’t need to play nice.

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Cue the “cozying up to dictators” cult. Folks, it’s a negotiation strategy. I know you don’t like seeing your sausage being made, but the steps are actually necessary. Go read a classic: How to Win Friends & Influence People It’s all explained in there. And Carnegie didn’t “invent” it. He just was the first one to explain, really well, what has been known since Biblical times, and then applied it to the notion of general success in all endeavors. Then, to make sure you understand how to defend your success, read the Cliff Notes on Machiavelli’s The Prince. To complete the stack, and to understand Trump, just add in the phrase, “Always hit back twice as hard.” And then forget worrying about “optics,” because you are always promoting your brand as elite, world class, and successful. You don’t have to like it, or Trump, but it gets results. [ And… Read more »

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How’s that worked out so far with NK?..not very well….Cue the Trump apologists and translators to tell us what he “really” means

K-Bob
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It’s worked out better for Trump than the last 6 presidents. Sorry to ruin your Trumpsplaining.

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AvatarK-Bob Darned good explanation. Carneghi, Machiavelli. You left out Kissinger.

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This is the biggest problem with Trump, in a nutshell. For every legitimately good thing he does, like yesterday’s Golan Heights pronouncement for example, he always, always, always follows it up with something so monumentally stupid, like this, that it completely eclipses and effectively cancels out the benefit of what he’d previously done. And he usually does it the very next day, if not sooner.

It’s one of many reasons why I cannot and will not ever get fully behind him, personally, no matter how many of his administration’s policies I might support.

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And yet somehow he managed to not only move the embassy to Jerusalem AND “recognize” the Golan Heights, but there are still no missiles being fired by North Korea.

So much for “completely eclipses.”

And now the Mueller investigation is over.

Trump haters just can’t catch a break.

C.W. Smith
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If I was the kind of irrational “Trump hater” you pretend I am, I would have been among those who salivated over what Mueller might have theoretically had up his sleeve at various points over the past two years, as many others were. Yet, I never did, I’ve always maintained that the whole “Russian collusion” angle was a ridiculous fantasy.

But I guess it’s a lot easier to dismiss someone’s entire perspective out of hand if you just lump them in with the crazies, isn’t it.

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We gotta give POTUS benefit of doubt. I can understand his rationale considering the Norks aren’t currently engaging in any hostile activity, so it would make sense to hold onto some leverage for when it’s really needed; otherwise, if we use up all the leverage, our tough talk won’t have any action behind it.

C.W. Smith
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What other “leverage” do we have left, after this?

Abe Lincoln
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That’s exactly my point. We don’t have any leverage left–there’s already a bunch of sanctions against them, but keeping some for when Kim does something stupid like test launch a missile.

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I hate this little footsie game he plays with this dictator. I’ll reserve at least a little judgement, because I think he might be trying to do what he can to keep the ball rolling all on his own given that China is probably zero help at this point. That said, that is partly Trump’s fault too. None of this will matter because lil Kim isn’t going to change. This is a problem that needs solving with espionage, not meetings.

Homer
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Dear Lil Kim,
I like you. Do you like me?
Circle Yes or No
Donny

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Well, Trump had a good day yesterday. I guess that’s enough sunshine for now.

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Well, looks we’re right back to bad Tromp. Pretty good run for him, almost a whole day.

Ciceroni Excogitatoris
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We’ll just have to wait and see, Doc. This is having to do with the US-China trade talks… it may be moving in a positive direction.

Dr. Strangelove
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Maybe. I know that they want our soybeans.

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Remember what I said yesterday? Here we are, and it’s worse than bad-mouthing a dead man.

Dr. Strangelove
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SquirrellySquirrelly He loves him some dictator.

C.W. Smith
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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove What are you, a Trump hater?

Dr. Strangelove
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That is a mere statement of fact. He praises strong men.

C.W. Smith
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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove I know, I was being sarcastic.

Dr. Strangelove
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Gotcha.

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It looks like either a bad move of supporting an evil dictator with nice words or a cheesy move of pretending that he stopped sanctions that were just about to be announced because he is a buddy who Kim can trust… or maybe some of both.

Bad Tromp.

Dr. Strangelove
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@ttt Was that 3D chess or 3rd grade chess? I forget.

Ciceroni Excogitatoris
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The US-China trade talks have a lot to do with this… I imagine there’s some movement going on in favor of the US.

I’ll wait until more information comes out before I start bashing Trump…

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I want to believe that there is a method to the madness.

AT
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So at this point we’re not sure what exactly Trump is talking about.

Welcome to every day of my life since mid-2015.

TomNewman64
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2015? I’ve got you beat by 30 years. I was following the USFL football league in the 80’s, which he pretty much single-handedly destroyed.

AT
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Oh wow. See, I never really paid much attention to him.

Except for that one time he positively gushed about the idea of eating pizza backwards.

Which, admittedly, I tried.

It was unnatural.

TomNewman64
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That look on your face when you are biting crust-first into a slice of pizza must have been priceless. “There’s a sucker born every minute – and I’m the sucker”.

AT
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AT

It was more like OMG THIS IS JUST BREAD AND BOILING CHEESE WHAT HAVE I DONE.

sjmom
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Sounds like this may be part of US-China trade talks but who knows?

Ciceroni Excogitatoris
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More than likely, SJ.

TomNewman64
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Sending some message to somebody. Hard to say what it’s all about.

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nc checks and balances

This is a wait-and-see moment.

David Jenson
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I dont know enough about what deals Trump has with China and North Korea or even what the intentions are of the sanctions in place. I’m sure there’s a reason though.

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