Buttigieg ATTACKS Evangelical Christians who support Trump

The booty-judge went after Evangelical Christians and the hypocrisy of supporting someone with the character of the Trumpy one.

From the Hill:

Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Ind., and likely 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, on Sunday criticized what he called “hypocrisy” among evangelical Christians who support President Trump.

Buttigieg, who is a Christian, said during an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that Trump “acts in a way” that is inconsistent with what he hears in church.

OK. So we have to make some distinctions here. He’s right in saying that Trump has led less than a virtuous life. He is definitely not someone that Christians should emulate. But does that mean we can’t support him as president? Well… yes and no.

“It’s something that really frustrates me because the hypocrisy is unbelievable,” he said of evangelical support for Trump. “Here you have somebody who not only acts in a way that is not consistent with anything that I hear in scripture or in church, where it’s about lifting up the least among us and taking care of strangers, which is another word for immigrants, and making sure that you’re focusing your effort on the poor.”

Now THIS, is absurd. There is nothing in scripture that says Christ would support utter lawlessness when it comes to borders. It’s a dumb position and people like Booty-judge and others just say it because it sounds good. It’s utterly irrational.

“But also personally how you’re supposed to conduct yourself,” he added, saying that Trump is at odds with a religion that calls for “humbling yourself before others.”

Well. Yes. Here he’s got a point. Trump seems to go out of his way to be an example of many the vices Christians should try to avoid. However, we don’t really have a choice in this next election. It’s not like we can simply replace Trump with Ted Cruz or someone else. The choice is binary. I am reminded of a quote from Martin Luther when he said that he was willing to be ruled by even a Muslim, if they ruled wisely. Well, in this case, I know that the Democrats are so extreme and insane that they make the choice pretty simple for many of us. Even if we object to his personal character.

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126 thoughts on “Buttigieg ATTACKS Evangelical Christians who support Trump

  1. SHUT UP and sorry I care less you are gay or christian what I care about is you are a commie lefty
    stick your opinions where they belong and stop calling people names little man
    and what is your bent with Pence? He has said nothing about you moron

  2. Pollsters say he has a 17% edge in Gomorrah. Waiting for the results to come in from Sodom.

  3. I think if Butty’s parents had known he would turn out to be gay, they would have voted to scrap that version and start over. Maybe he should take one of those Iranian flying lessons.

    1. He said he hoped like anything he wasn’t gay wow perhaps mama should have murdered you right little man???

  4. Harsh truth alert: There are people who claim to be Christians and live a homosexual lifestyle. They’re only reading the parts of the Bible they want, and ignoring the ones that condemn their sins. There are people who commit heterosexual sins — sex before marriage; adultery — who claim to be Christians. They’re only reading the parts of the Bible they want, and ignoring the ones that condemn their sins. There are people who curse or use filthy language and claim to be Christians. They’re only reading the parts of the Bible they want, and ignoring the ones that condemn their sins.

    “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:23. That doesn’t mean you continue to live in sin. If you know Christ, you won’t. “‘Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven,” Matt. 7:21. Some who have deceived themselves will hear, “I never knew you,” Matt. 7:23. If one knows Christ, one will “bear fruits worthy of repentance,” Luke 3:7.

    People who point at one sexual sin and say it’s alright, and another and say that’s the one that will keep you from heaven are also reading an abridged version of the Bible. There’s only one sin that will keep you from heaven, and that’s not putting your faith alone in Christ alone to save you. Buttigieg might have religion, but no religion will save you. He might have the right words, but the right words won’t save you. He might even like all the “right” ministers/priests, but man can’t save you. The same can be said for Trump.

    Trump is President because God is on the Throne and God has allowed it, just as He allowed Obama to be on the Throne. One sin isn’t “better” than another, because all sins separate us from God. Evangelicals who back one sinner over another saying their sinner is somehow more pleasing to God need to re-read their Bibles.

    1. Correct, even the thoughts become sins. God uses flawed men toward his own good. Samson was a whore monger..

  5. That guy claims to believe in and love the Lord yet continues to live in sin with his husband. Has he NOT read I Corinthians chapter 5? It tells us that if any brother or sister that knows the Lord and continues to commit the inward sin against the Holy Spirit such as se xu al immorality, we are to rebuke them, ask them to repent and if they STILL do not, we are to expel them from the church and never deal with them again. It’s not a sin to by g a y, it’s a sin to ACT on that feeling. All other sin is outward, meaning it is against other humans. Immorality of a s e xu al nature is inward and as such is a sin against the Holy Spirit which dwells within us.

  6. Evangelical Christians also believe in forgiveness and repentance. What Trump did in his past life is regrettable but he has not repeated his transgressions since he has become president, and to condemn him in the present for his past actions is unfair. People change and I believe he has, in the interest of his country and his reputation. His actions in office have been all noble.

    1. When asked about repentance, he said it didn’t have a part in his life. He didn’t ask God’s forgiveness, he just tried to do better. He doesn’t even understand the concept of forgiveness.

      Often we fill in the blanks on what we’ve heard or read and think we’ve heard or read it correctly. It’s important not to hear what we want someone to have said, but to listen to what he actually has said. Trump’s not as horrible as those who hate him believe, nor is he is wonderful as those who love him believe. They’re putting their beliefs and wishes into it. A man who has changed would have fessed up to Stormy Daniels, said what was wrong with what he’d done, and said he’d asked for God’s forgiveness in the matter. Trump just tried to duck the story like the average politician. I think he’s the average politician, not a changed man. He shows no fruits of repentance. I am glad he seems to be pro-life. But there are people who aren’t Christians who are pro-life. ‍♀️

  7. Personally, I’m sick of political prostitutes judging my voting record. Buttigieg is an ass (sorry Soop but he is).

  8. Well. Yes. Here he’s got a point. Trump seems to go out of his way to be an example of many the vices Christians should try to avoid.

    True, but Buttigieg has no moral ground to stand upon given his lifestyle choices and support for the Democratic party. Trump wasn’t my first pick. I had issues with his moral character and still don’t like his support for SSM and trans bathrooms. But we have to play the cards we’ve been dealt. And at the end of the day he’s the president, not my pastor, minister, or priest.

    1. Buttigieg is way worse than that. He sins inwardly which is a sin against the Holy Spirit which I might add, if he doesn’t repent, he will grieve the spirit in which there is no forgiveness, in this life or the next. Meaning that you don’t even make it to judgement day, you’re already slated for the downward spiral.

      1. Way worse than what? His sexual sins against his body are worse than Trump’s sexual sins against his body — because they’re both called sins against the body. And since Trump just believes in doing better the next time, asking God’s forgiveness isn’t something that enters into it, he’s not a changed man. They both bring shame to the name of Christ whom they profess as their Saviour. And if you asked each, the answer would be, “Saved from what?” Buttgieg doesn’t believe he needs to apologize for his behavior any more than Trump does.

  9. So Christians would be demonstrating true faith and alliance to Christian doctrine by supporting abortion, sodomy and other activities and behaviors that are condemned by the virtually every religious tradition in the history of religious traditions?

  10. Well. Yes. Here he’s got a point. Trump seems to go out of his way to be an example of many the vices Christians should try to avoid.

    G-d has often used flawed individuals to shepherd his flock.

    1. Never in a thousand years would I be inclined to mistake his Trumpy-ness for a shepherd of God’s flock.

    1. Or, if they want to scream “That’s OLD Testament” then point them to I Corinthians chapter 5 which is far more damning than Lev 18:22. It’s goes into detail how the sin of homose xu ality is an inward sin against the Holy Spirit.

  11. CHOOSE LIFE – President Trump has been a great defender of life before, during and after birth.

    Deuteronomy 30
    The Offer of Life or Death
    11 Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.

    15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. 16 For I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.

    17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

    19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20 and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

    1. When the Bible calls people to choose life in that passage, God’s Word is speaking in spiritual terms. Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. You choose that Life. You choose God’s Word. You choose the Lord Jesus Christ.

      And yes, abortion is murder. But that’s not what’s being talked about here. That Trump is pro-life is wonderful. There are a lot of non-Christians who are pro-life. That they choose a baby’s life over murdering it doesn’t make them Christians. I love Ben Shapiro, a strong pro-life voice. But he’s not a Christian.

  12. Let me see if I’m getting this right…. Democrats, who:

    Demand abortion for any reason, at taxpayers expense, and are willing to extend abortions after the child is born;
    Allow any person from any country, no questions asked, including those who are diseased and violent;
    Want to leave women and other innocent people defenseless from the violent borders invaders they proudly open their arms to and protect in sanctuary cities;
    Exclude themselves from criminal investigations while concocting evidence to investigate political opponents;
    Use federal agencies as a weapons against conservatives and Republicans;
    Create and encourage violent groups to physically attack those they disagree with;
    Distort the Bible to fit their own view of the world regardless of its truth.

    Are claiming the moral high ground?

  13. Gee, I wonder if Buttigieg would have felt the same way about that moral saint JFK who regularly shuttled women into the White House?

    Btw, has anyone asked him to pronounce his Buttijudgement on Bill Clinton yet?

  14. Buttigieg is sadly is not a Christian despite what he claims. He is one of many who has crafted a god in his own image who agrees with him in everything including accepting what God has called sinful. This god he has crafted (beware, sarcasm ahead) is nothing more in his apostasy than an overly doting parent who will never ever tell him bad things because a “loving” parent is one who just lets him do whatever and never says no because this diety “loves” him. (Sarcasm done) A “good” parent who really loves their child often tells them no and disciplines them so that they will know not to do things that will harm them. God is THAT kind of parent to use that analogy. Buttigieg also by his rhetoric is in total denial of the divinity of Christ. Christ IS the same God who is in the Old Testament as well as the new. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. God’s moral commands have not changed ever. Jesus didn’t say much about some things because He was already talking to an audience who already knew what God had commanded. In other words it went without saying what Jesus supported. It was the very same thing that God the Father supported and had laid out in the Commandments that He had given Moses on Mt. Sinai. While the ritual commandments have passed the moral commandments have not because they pertain directly to the sinful essence of mankind as a whole. Also, being a Christian is not only about doing good things. We do good things (works) as Christians not for salvation but to HONOR the One who died to save us and as fruit of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The main point of Christianity is not works salvation (which Buttigieg is actually espousing) but accepting that NOTHING we mere mortals can do can save us (So no, we can NEVER be as God, Genisis 3:3). It is only by Christ’s work are we saved. Any other way is, frankly, false religion that elevates man and not God. Only by repenting of our sins (humbling ourselves before a holy and righteous God) and accepting that it is only Christ who is capable of saving us by paying the penalty on the cross that we were due for our sins are we saved. Sadly, Mr. Buttigieg is still in his sins no matter how many good “works” he thinks he’s doing and no matter what name he may give himself.

  15. Booty-judge is as queer as a three dollar bill with Obama’s picture on it yet he talks about being a Christian? Sorry dudette, that doesn’t work. God sees homosexuals as an abomination and flat-out says they will not go to heaven. Well, there’s only one other place you can go, so I hope you like a really warm climate.

    1. Right now it’s ok, but when we start getting to election season and postings really tick up it’s going to be interesting to see how this works not being able to block a users posts from your view when you are just tired of their nonsense.

      1. @Tracy I have an ignore list. When I see certain names, I go straight to the next post. Works pretty well.

          1. @Tracy The block feature is nice, though, because you instantly see whole conversations to skip.

        1. Yep, if you don’t reply or engage them they will often just go away. In other words, don’t bite their bait.

          1. @philliesthoughts Usually, yeah. The most tenacious ones tend to get the boot, anyway.

  16. This coming from an abortion-supporting gay man. LOL.

    “Thou shalt not do murder.” (Exodus 20:13)
    “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” Chapter 18 verse 22
    “Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God.” (Corinthians 6:9)

  17. Booty-judge is gay.

    Booty-judge calls out Trump for not following the Bible.

    But Booty-Judge is gay.

  18. This Bible interpretaion lession brought to you by a person who believes the Bible supports his gay marriage.

  19. What disgusts me is that Christians will likely be put in the same position in 2020 – a binary choice. Trump will likely be the only sane choice to vote for. Frustrating.

    1. All you can do is be a good Christian and vote for neither Trump or the Democrat. I have family members who made the binary choice decision and voted for Trump. Their character has worsened and they make excuses for Trump’s bad behavior and constant lying. I’m so glad I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016. That stink is never going to go away.

      1. Voting choices are not binary, but the outcome is always binary. Like I posted above, Trump wasn’t my first pick. I was and still am a Cruz guy. At one time I thought I was NeverTrump, but realized I was more of a ReluctantTrump. I was very critical of him during the primaries, but have since softened my position. That doesn’t mean I like everything he does, and good luck finding the perfect candidate. But I feel a whole lot better that he’s the president instead of Hillary. Even the most ardent NeverTrumpers, if they were honest, would have to admit that he has done some good things.

        1. @watchman I, too, was a Reluctant Trump. Went from Scott Walker (just loved what he did busting up the unions in Wisconsin)to Herman Cain (999) to Ted Cruz and, finally, the “lesser of two evils” Donald Trump. I find his demeanor abhorrent, but have become an ardent supporter since he’s become President. He has warts, to be sure, but HE DELIVERS for us conservatives. MAGA.

    1. I voted for the pot heat Johnson in ’16, but as of right now I’m reluctantly on the Trump Train for ’20.

      1. @texas-chris

        I learned a lesson in 2016 as I parroted this non-binary choice crap.

        Perfect storm for a third party and it performed the same as it did before. There is a lot of griping about our uniparty but not enough people care.

        The choice is binary.

          1. We may get to that point our nation was at in the 1850s too. Then maybe we will have another way.

          2. @Texas Chris The thing is, no one seems to be interested in freeing the welfare slaves. Kind of hard to fathom it now, but the Republican party was built around abolition.

  20. “Buttigieg, who is a Christian, said … that Trump “acts in a way” that is inconsistent with what he hears in church.”

    NOTHING in his words or actions indicates he’s a Christian. And IF he goes to church, it’s not likely a Bible-preaching church. I WILL NOT be lectured by a practicing homosexual who distorts the Word of God and stands for the evils he supports. He will likely go to hell in his ignorance. Sad.

  21. ““Here you have somebody who not only acts in a way that is not consistent with anything that I hear in scripture or in church” Hold on a sec here. Isn’t Buttigieg gay and all for killing unborn babies? Where the heck did you heart that’s ok in church? !?!?!

  22. Of all of the politicians, buttgigg is the last one who should be throwing rocks at other people’s behavior.

  23. It’s pretty funny listening to people on the radio stumble over the name Buttigieg. Even after everyone learns how to pronounce it, they’ll be giggling under their breath. Maybe he’ll be Biden’s VP choice and we can call it the Beavis and Butthead platform.

    1. At least Biden would be keeping his promise of making a woman his running mate, and ButtGigg may actually enjoy Uncle Joe’s creepiness.

  24. I subscribe to Vice on YT. They must have had a good video at one time, I guess. If these millennials are so educated, why can’t they find a job that pays enough for their rent? Not everyone can go from bartending to Congress, of course, but if you don’t mind getting your hands dirty, there is plenty of work out there. The problem is exactly as shown in the video, this guy is whining about how bad it is and how someone else can fix it for them. I started over, with literally nothing except a really poor job record in ’98. I worked up to 5 jobs at a time to keep my head above water. I can’t stand all of this b!tching and moaning about how terrible it is.

  25. So far there are 18 Democrats who have announced or who are considered likely to announce for 2020. Not one of them rises to the level of serious alternative to Trump. They are all complete nutbags like this guy.

    1. @K-Bob Who’s going to vote for someone whose name they either can’t pronounce or makes them think buttplug? Besides, I hear that while he’s out gallivanting around, South Bend is going down the tubes.

    2. Mr. Starbucks has a chance if he gets nominated as a D, and I think Gabbard is at last not a lunatic, but neither of them have a snowball’s chance of running the intersectional-communist gauntlet.

      Beyond that it’s 18 Mickey Mouse candidates.

      1. @texas-chris Schultz (Starbucks) doesn’t consider himself a Dem anymore (he’s going independent isn’t he?) and Gabbard, I agree, while still a lib, is the only Dem in the bunch who doesn’t seem completely insane. And she IS “intersectional.” But the Media won’t touch her.

    3. @k-bob I remember thinking Trump didn’t rise to the level of serious consideration when he ran in 2016, and look where we are now. I hope you are right, but imagine the Dems will find someone.

  26. Pot, kettle.

    He’s one to talk.

    This guy is just playing the NeverTrump “religion” card from 2016. It’s a fool’s game.

    1. It has becoming annoying to see the democrats recycle the same failed talking points, hasn’t it? Mr. Starbucks may stand a chance, if he chooses to announce his candidacy, but if his motive is to sink the demonrats, or worse yet, to pull a Ross Perot, he is wasting a lot of time and money because Trump is NOT George HW Bush.

  27. A man married to another man is not exactly someone who should be casting stones at others as far as religion goes, not to mention that the Trump ticket is / was infinitely better than anything the Democratic ticket could ever cobble together despite some warts with Trump’s past. The Democratic advocacy for killing babies, including after they are born as the Virginia Governor is for and he is still in office despite admitting that, the list goes on and on with the depravity of the left yet they expect everyone to ignore that and act like it’s not there when it is.

  28. Well my parents bought their first home in the 60s for $35,000, huge lot, nice neighborhood. I can’t get over how things were in those days in comparison to today. Home prices here in CA have risen to unaffordable levels, and I don’t fully understand it. Supply and demand I know. Inventory is scarce. A modest 3BR 2Ba SFR in a modest neighborhood in the Greater LA area sells for over half a million dollars.. same home in the early 2000s could have sold for 180 to 250k. You might get a fixer upper now for 400k. Condos selling over 400k. Same neighborhood I grew up in homes now selling for $2 million and up. It’s ridiculous. With homes too expensive for buyers, a lot of people are renting, so it’s even expensive to rent as a result. I don’t fully understand how it got this way, but I know socialism is not the answer and universal rent control would be a disaster. Truth is I don’t know how you get back to affordable housing in CA. I wish I had a better idea. I wish there were better answers.

    1. Speculation is rampant in CA. It goes through a big housing bubble every 10-15 years. Give it another few years, you will be able to buy your dream house at 50%.

      Or you can move to a Conservative state and buy a dream home for a third or 1/4th cost of CA

      1. Yeah, well, Californians came to Texas and drove up home prices (and property taxes), so I hope they do not move here anymore! Better to stick with NV, AZ, OR or WA…they have not gone quite so far left as Cali…yet.

    2. You would have to start by tossing out the demonrats and rinos in the assembly and governorship, for one; if they were not running things, and CA re-attracted businesses and business growth, which would create more jobs in Cali, people could at least afford more.

      I was born and raised in California at a very different time (I remember when gasoline was 35 cents per gallon, plus you got everything checked under the hood by a guy who pumped your gas for you, often got a free bowl or glass with every fill-up, AND you got green chip or blue chip stamps to buy stuff at the Green Chip or Blue Chip stamp store). I remember how boring it was to drive down to the Green Chip Stamp store to shop with my Mom. Plus, businesses shutdown on Sundays for a day of rest. Today, I would give almost anything for America to return to those great old days.

      Meanwhile, we have a much better life here in G-d’s country, TEXAS!

    1. I doubt he would have chosen it, as a kid….I can only imagine the fun kids had with his name and at his expense. Perhaps that is why he is….never mind. 😉

  29. Ted Cruz, the Lion of the Tribe of Texas, telling Yale that he’s not going to stand for them discriminating against Christians:

    As one of the nation’s most respected law schools, Yale Law School has an obligation to protect intellectual diversity and to respect the constitutional rights of its students. However, public news reports indicate that Yale Law School has recently adopted a transparently discriminatory policy: namely, that Yale will no longer provide any stipends or loan repayments for students serving in organizations professing traditional Christian views or adhering to traditional sexual ethics.

    The First Amendment protects both free speech and the Free Exercise of religion. Yale’s new policy does neither. Instead, it appears that the policy arose from unconstitutional animus and a specific discriminatory intent both to blacklist Christian organizations like the Alliance Defending Freedom and to punish Yale students whose values or religious faith lead them to work there.

    As Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on the Constitution, he’s opening an investigation. Full document is here:


    Hat tip to PJ Media: https://pjmedia.com/faith/ted-cruz-threatens-lawsuit-after-yale-law-school-blacklists-christian-firms/

  30. “There are none so blind as those who will not see” fits Buttigeg to a T. He refuses to see his own sinful ways yet judges someone else.

    1. Well put, @sjmom. And that doesn’t just refer to his homosexuality and stand on abortion.

  31. When he deals with his own hypocrisy for presenting himself as a Christian while claiming his relationship with another man is a marriage that moves him closer to God, then he can start talking about hypocrisy.

    Rationalizing your own sin while calling out someone else’s behavior is the definition of hypocrisy.

    1. Yep…there is scripture about first pulling the log out of your own eye before pointing out the splinter in another person’s eye….but I doubt he knows The Word of God at all.

  32. “It’s something that really frustrates me because the hypocrisy is unbelievable,” he said of evangelical support for Trump.
    But of course you, Mr. Buttigeig, will never criticize anyone who supports or practices killing the unborn, partial born or perhaps even newborn.

    Hypocrisy Trumped.

  33. I’m not taking moral cues from this scumbag or any Democrat who supports killing children in and out of the womb by calling it a “choice”, taking through force more money from Americans in the form of taxes or disarming law abiding citizens because “guns are bad”.

    Pete can go screw with his holier than thou crap.

  34. Good read…we are feeling the same way as we were in the Last Presidential election . Not that it matters cause I think Wa. State voted to not have Trump on the ballot or something . Anyway, with the time change and communism on the Left coast, we barely get out vote to count…

  35. We weren’t perfect before we were saved and won’t be perfect after we are saved. We will be forgiven.

  36. Maybe some Christians voted for Trump despite his flaws because of that thing about removing the piece of lumber from our own eye before worrying about the splinter in other’s eye.

  37. The booty-judge


    Buttigieg, who is a Christian, said during an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that Trump “acts in a way” that is inconsistent with what he hears in church

    The irony is his lifestyle choices are inconsistent with what the bible teaches. The other irony is most of what the Democratic party supports is also inconsistent to what the bible teaches.

  38. I can’t believe that with the Dem party platform of staunch support for abortion that this man could be a Democrat. Not to mention the trans support as well.

  39. I’m not religious so I don’t have those restraints. I agree that Trump hasn’t exactly led an exemplary moral life when it comes to women. But does that mean he cannot lead the nation? He’s not anti-Christian and hasn’t advocated for policies that hinder Christian values.

    What if an atheist came along that had the perfect ideas and was an outstanding conservative? Are we going to refuse him the job because he’s not a Christian? Not me. I’m agnostic.

    1. Yeah very strange how evangelicals are not choosing the anti-Christian party over this obviously flawed man.

      1. @tracy That’s exactly it. They have priorities. Trump or the party that goes out of it’s way to destroy Christian values. Gee….who should they pick?

    2. The reasoning all gets scrambled because of the word, “support.”

      The time when you actually support a candidate is when you are convincing them to run for office, and then again when helping them get on the ballot. After that, you’re just a voter, really.

      Most of us are not, and never will be “supporters” of any candidate.

      But the word gets turned into a far deeper, uglier meaning by adversaries, who want to paint the tiny population of actual supporters and the large population of likely voters for a candidate into a literal cult, for purposes of denigrating them.

      It’s true that most folks think of themselves as for or against a given politician. But they don’t go down the idolatry rabbit hole to do so.

  40. Oh he is so dignified while he rejects any restriction whatsoever on baby slaughter.

    Yes, much better than that Trump obvs.

  41. Do I vote for an infantacidal free-will denying democrat braggart or a non-infantacidal free-will accepting republican braggart? That’s an easy choice. The third option to vote for someone who won’t win or no one is a much harder decision.

  42. And who is working the hardest and having the most success with stopping the late term abortions? Obama? Clinton? Biden? Who?

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