California wants to be the FIRST to give healthcare to illegals, but the real news is HOW they plan to pay for it…

If you live in California you are going to love hate this news. As you can glean from the title, California wants to be the first liberal state to give government healthcare to illegals. You know, cutting edge of progressivism:

BBC – California is poised to become the first US state to offer government-provided healthcare to some immigrants who are in the country illegally.

State Democrats agreed on Sunday that adults between the ages of 19 to 25 should have access to Medi-Cal, the state’s low-income insurance programme.

The measure must still be approved by the full legislature and be signed by the state’s Democratic governor.

This probably isn’t surprising to most of you, who expect nothing less than liberal idiocy to reign there.



But what I did find interesting is how these liberals plan to pay for it:

The $98m (£77m) plan aims to provide coverage to 100,000 people.

To help pay for the plan, which is part of the latest state budget, lawmakers have proposed taxing people who do not have health insurance.

In other words, they want to tax the uninsured CITIZENS of California to give healthcare to uninsured illegal NON-CITIZENS.

How messed up is that?

Tell me conservative Californians, why do you still live there?

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128 thoughts on “California wants to be the FIRST to give healthcare to illegals, but the real news is HOW they plan to pay for it…

  1. Let’s fence the entire state in and call it a national park. What an absolute zoo California has become.

    This is liberal utopia for all to see.

  2. Yesterday, I called everyone of my state representatives, including the Governor and told them to pound sand. This is absurd. My 20 year old son doesn’t have FREE healthcare we pay $160/month for him alone. What the he!!?

    Why do I still live in Cali? Because I grew up here, FAMILY, the worlds best climate/weather, and I figure if we all up and leave then this state will never come back from the depths of depravity. So, I wake in the morning, put on the full armor of God and do what I can to make a difference in my community. It hurts like heck to see the daily carnage of a democrat LIBERAL led political system.

    So, if you live in California, MAKE THE CALLS, tell your representatives they work for US not for the ILLEGAL ALIENS who enter our country by breaking the law.

    PS – it’s $98 MILLION/YEAR for infinity (I know it will be more like hundreds on MILLIONS). And, who is going to stop those illegals from coming from neighboring states who harbor them in sanctuary cities all across USA to suck this system dry.

    RISE UP CALIFORNIA CONSERVATIVES – IT’S TIME TO MAKE CALIFORNIA GREAT AGAIN!

  3. Provide free health care to 100,000 illegals? Hey Cali what about the other 2,000,000 illegal sweethearts that live there.
    They will sue for discrimination with the Cali state govt’s help.

  4. They’re broke. They’ll have to get the money from the free states via the federal government. Don’t you feel better now knowing that you will be paying for it?

  5. Let’s fence the entire state in and call it a national park. What an absolute zoo California has become.

    This is liberal utopia for all to see.

  6. Just like Obamacare. Don’t have insurance? Pay a nice fine on your taxes. It is funny that in an effort to help people who can’t pay for health insurance they’re going to tax people who can’t pay for health insurance. That’s thinking right there.

  7. Yesterday, I called everyone of my state representatives, including the Governor and told them to pound sand. This is absurd. My 20 year old son doesn’t have FREE healthcare we pay $160/month for him alone. What the he!!?

    Why do I still live in Cali? Because I grew up here, FAMILY, the worlds best climate/weather, and I figure if we all up and leave then this state will never come back from the depths of depravity. So, I wake in the morning, put on the full armor of God and do what I can to make a difference in my community. It hurts like heck to see the daily carnage of a democrat LIBERAL led political system.

    So, if you live in California, MAKE THE CALLS, tell your representatives they work for US not for the ILLEGAL ALIENS who enter our country by breaking the law.

    PS – it’s $98 MILLION/YEAR for infinity (I know it will be more like hundreds on MILLIONS). And, who is going to stop those illegals from coming from neighboring states who harbor them in sanctuary cities all across USA to suck this system dry.

    RISE UP CALIFORNIA CONSERVATIVES – IT’S TIME TO MAKE CALIFORNIA GREAT AGAIN!

  8. Provide free health care to 100,000 illegals? Hey Cali what about the other 2,000,000 illegal sweethearts that live there.
    They will sue for discrimination with the Cali state govt’s help.

  9. They’re broke. They’ll have to get the money from the free states via the federal government. Don’t you feel better now knowing that you will be paying for it?

  10. The disgusting thing about all of this is when California fails and the Federal government steps in, guess who’s getting stuck with the bill? This needs to stop! :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:

  11. Just like Obamacare. Don’t have insurance? Pay a nice fine on your taxes. It is funny that in an effort to help people who can’t pay for health insurance they’re going to tax people who can’t pay for health insurance. That’s thinking right there.

  12. Let every taxpayer, conservative or not , in California leave. I am waiting for either NY or California to pass an exit tax, whether it’s constitutional or not.

    1. No, most of the residents in CA need to stay. We don’t want them in other states turning them into another California.

      1. Agreed, they’ve turned Seattle into a San Francisco clone and it is gross beyond belief. The once majestic and beautiful Emerald City is DOA!

  13. New York is not an option either. It’s the home of a crazy bartender who thinks she’s the boss.

      1. Morning Doc, while I speak for myself, I’m willing to sacrifice that to be rid of their lunacy.

        1. @the-sane-silence-dogood I’m sure that we’d survive. In fact, if we divided the country along red/blue lines, the red states would thrive.

    1. Who’s we? It kills me how all you people who don’t live in California can speak for those of us who do. I would refer both you and Danaellen to the post by joyfulgiver at the top of this page.

  14. I hate hate hate that this will probably pass, but as a “conservative Californian” I’m not going anywhere. I was born and raised here, lived here, with very few exceptions, all my life, and, now in my senior years, where am I going to go?

    And believe it or not, just because we aren’t in the majority, doesn’t mean there aren’t lots of us here. And a mass exodus of us isn’t going to help make anything better.

    Look, I get it. If you’re here, and you have a chance to help your family have a better life somewhere else, go for it. I would too. But it’s not the answer for everyone.

    1. I’m with you NC. I posted a similar comment upstream. It breaks my heart to see what is happening in our once GOLDEN state. The other day we went to our local garden shop and on the way we were forced to drive through one of San Diego’s “tent cities”, mind you there are NO ILLEGALS living in these areas.

      It’s disgusting to think that ILLEGALS are given more rights and luxuries than our OWN CITIZENS. Sick ILLEGALS are being housed in “hotels” while SICK AMERICAN CITIZENS are sleeping in the streets. The insanity needs to STOP, NOW. The only way I see it happening is like minded members of our communities (like you and me) need to rise up and make certain our neighbors know what is going on in our state. Everyone is so dang BUSY that no one is paying attention. Politically speaking it’s kind of like a game of whack-A-mole, you whack down one issue and another pops up. The politicians are doing their best to keep us on the defense, it’s time to rise up on the offense and take back California.

      B eing
      U nder
      S atans
      Y oke

      We need to STOP THE MADNESS!!!

      Blessings on your day!

      1. @joyfulgiver I am convinced that ordinary people (and I’m talking about CA Dem voters too) will soon get fed up – as long as it happens BEFORE the Left manages to get “voting rights” for the illegals which you know is on their agenda.

        Last month I spent a few days with my lib family members for an out of town funeral, and, while we didn’t talk much politics, when we did I was surprised at how fed up they all were about the illegal immigration problem.

        This is an issue that cuts across all party lines, only the most radical Leftists, and the illegals themselves, support open borders and all that follows. Oh, and the stupid politicians who pander to the squeaky activist wheels. Or worse, cravenly use the illegals to build their future power base, which is their true agenda.

        But ordinary people don’t like it. Not at all, and hopefully the vote will start showing it. :praying:

  15. The disgusting thing about all of this is when California fails and the Federal government steps in, guess who’s getting stuck with the bill? This needs to stop! :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:

  16. If the Dems in California are so concerned about the illegal immigrants and homeless, there’s an easy solution. Each Dem can invite a few of them to live with them until they find a suitable place to stay. Problem solved!

  17. Let every taxpayer, conservative or not , in California leave. I am waiting for either NY or California to pass an exit tax, whether it’s constitutional or not.

    1. No, most of the residents in CA need to stay. We don’t want them in other states turning them into another California.

      1. Agreed, they’ve turned Seattle into a San Francisco clone and it is gross beyond belief. The once majestic and beautiful Emerald City is DOA!

  18. New York is not an option either. It’s the home of a crazy bartender who thinks she’s the boss.

      1. Morning Doc, while I speak for myself, I’m willing to sacrifice that to be rid of their lunacy.

  19. “Tell me conservative Californians, why do you still live there?”

    Some of believe there’s a strong possibility that if we could eliminate the voter fraud in this state, which is freaken out of control, Cali might actually go conservative. We are not permitted to vote on crap like this, it’s just rammed down our throats. Critical mass is right around the corner.

  20. I hate hate hate that this will probably pass, but as a “conservative Californian” I’m not going anywhere. I was born and raised here, lived here, with very few exceptions, all my life, and, now in my senior years, where am I going to go?

    And believe it or not, just because we aren’t in the majority, doesn’t mean there aren’t lots of us here. And a mass exodus of us isn’t going to help make anything better.

    Look, I get it. If you’re here, and you have a chance to help your family have a better life somewhere else, go for it. I would too. But it’s not the answer for everyone.

  21. More fodder and red meat for the masses (dumbasses.) The fact is that ANY illegal or uninsured citizen can walk right into a hospital and get medical care. This won’t change that for them or for any other.
    ALL for show and for money. Omar is absolutely right….It is all about the benjamins.

  22. I am number 3 on a list waiting for a senior apartment complex in northern Idaho, it’s still spring time like I first said back in March, I’m so outta this Twilight Zone :exclamation: state.

  23. I’m only 40, plan on leaving when I’m eligible to retire in 10 years. I think about it literally every single day. Besides being in the military and spending a year of my life in Afghanistan, 2004-2005, I’ve lived in the Central Valley my entire life.

    Not sure where. Nevada too hot. Arizona too hot. Maybe Wyoming? Never been there though. Montana? I’d like a nice home on about 10 acres in a rural nice area with great quality of life. Where’s that?

    In California the cost of living, gas, food, housing, homeless, gangs, roads, being too close to the Bay Area, electric bills, water bills, DMV, etc…

    If you don’t make at least 100 k here forget about having a nice middle class lifestyle.

    Sorry for my rant…. it’s 106 degrees

    1. Montana and Wyoming very cold. I would suggest Colorado which is a midway point between hot Southern CA weather and the really cold extremes up north. We lived in CO – in a little rural town – on ten acres. It was beautiful. But the winters are a tad long and you can spend a couple months in the snow. Check out Colorado Springs. We were about 40 minutes north of that in a little town called Elizabeth which I wouldn’t recommend. Check the outer edges of Parker and Castle Rock. Both nice towns and you can get acreage on the outskirts. Beautiful country, however, we have a biracial family and it didn’t go well with all the folks in the little town we were in. There’s a big military base in Colorado Springs as well as the headquarters for Focus on the Family. Cost of living a tad cheaper – cost of gas a lot cheaper.

      1. Appreciate the advice. Still lots of great folks here in California. Los Angeles, Hollywood, the Bay Area, Silicon Valley ruin it.

        Luckily I live in the agriculture region, we drive pickup trucks, bbq, believe in god, conservative type folks etc.. salt of the earth type

        We’re all thinking the same thing, trust me.

        1. @central-valley It breaks my heart to read these comments bashing our state, because I know in my heart of hearts that California can be great again. I agree with your comments. It’s dang expensive to live here, but, I don’t know where else we would go. I’ve mentioned before…it’s time we RISE ABOVE THE CIRCUMSTANCES and take California back. END THE STUPIDITY! How do we do that, I’m not sure, but I’m willing to put in the effort.

      2. Yeah, but from what I’ve read, Colorado is just a tad under crazy from California. If one is going to move, go to a solid red state. Colorado has allowed that MaryJane and those crazy mushrooms.

        1. You are 100% absolutely correct. That’s why, just about every time we wish we could move away from crazy CA, we decide there’s really no place for us to go where we will fit in and not miss our home state. So my guess is we will just have to keep our heads down and mind our own business and hope/pray for the best.

          1. “So my guess is we will just have to keep our heads down and mind our own business and hope/pray for the best.”

            NOOOOOOOOO – That’s exactly what they expect of us. WE need to RISE UP and take back our state from the liberal fools. When you bury your head in the sand, you are only allowing the insanity to persist. We need to be in the faces of these liberal politicians, make them feel the heat. Call them every single day if necessary and remind them they work for us. And, we need to begin to demand better of future politicians. Biblically speaking our standard for them should be that of Exodus 18: 21 But select capable men from all the people—men who fear God, trustworthy men who hate dishonest gain—and appoint them as officials over thousands, hundreds, fifties and tens.

            1. I hear what you are saying but at 70, I have fought the good fight and am now handing it over to those who have the energy to carry on. I will do my job of researching, voting, informing others but my days of protests, picketing, writing letters, and phone calling, have come to an end. I have raised eleven children, ten adopted, I served in the military, home educated my little family, worked 12 to 16 hour days alongside my husband, took hurting people into our home throughout the years, protested outside abortion clinics and spent time in jail for doing so, and suffered through the teen and young adult years of my eleven children, seven of them as ungrateful as a person could be. I am plum worn out and looking for a little respite after having been rocked hard two years ago with aplastic anemia.

              But I know exactly what you are saying and if I lived in an area where my opinion counted, I would find the energy to fight on. But here, where I am, is like being an ant in the middle of the desert shaking my fist. My energy is better spent on my knees in my war room praying. Which reminds me of the movie – Miss Clara’s prayer at the end – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WpfkFyG5qQ

  24. That’s quite a business model. We’re going to count on the most unreliable citizens in our state to pay for the health care of illegal immigrants…

    1. I wouldn’t term all people without insurance as “the most unreliable”. There was a time when my family could not afford health insurance. Our premiums kept going up, up, up. We made good enough money but we got to the point that it was over a thousand dollars a month for our family of 12 and we had to cry uncle. Instead, we got a catastrophic plan and an HSA. We were very reliable people, routinely put money into the HSA, paid our own doctor bills, and did our best to raise healthy children. We were blessed, I will admit, to never get any serious ailment during those years and I did live on pins and needles concerned that something could happen. But the Good Lord saw us through and all ten kids are grown, we never stiffed a doctor or hospital, and we all have our own coverage now. And the HSA is still sitting there waiting to be used when the time comes 🙂

      1. You are a good example of what every member of society should be doing…taking responsibility for themselves and their family. The Word of God states, that if you (a believer) can’t/won’t provide for your own family, you are worse than an unbeliever. Sadly, we have generations of families who believe it is the governments roll to provide for their every need.

        KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT!

        1. Thank you kindly. I appreciate your comments. I will admit to thinking (and believing) the whole time my husband and I were raising our little family (actually it was quite large) that we were stealing from God the ability to provide for us by signing on for insurance as if He could not care for us. But in the end, I trusted that He had provided me with a good brain and a big dose of common sense. I did give out a sigh of relief when they all came of age and my responsibility was only to my husband and myself.

          I want to add that I appreciate this site so much. Just about everyone here is gracious and kind and the extra icing is that they are smart. Some sites that I would expect to be civil are just so barbaric. Not so with The Right Scoop. I love coming here, reading the posts, and writing my own. It’s people like you that give people like me that live in Los Angeles hope.

    1. I was listening to RUSH yesterday and he said the President needs to come to California and hold rallies…every month. Can you imagine the uproar from the left if he were to come into the state they deem to be their HOLD? If you look at a congressional map of CA, the majority of the state is RED, it’s the coastline that has large swaths of liberalism, but among them are people just like me fighting to turn that tide. I will say it again, if you live in California don’t turn your back on the insanity, get in the FIGHT, rise up and make California great again.

  25. I not only live in CA but I live in Los Angeles. Why don’t I leave? Well, my husband supports the family with the business contacts he has put together since the early 80’s. We would have to start all over again in our 60/70s and that’s not a very appealing prospect. Three of our grown children live with us, one locked into his job for the next four years and two daughters that have jobs and social lives which they would not want to leave. I have been treated by City of Hope for two years and have ongoing medical needs. I can’t imagine starting up with a new hospital. We once moved to Virginia but were home sick within a couple of years and returned after five. We once moved to Colorado but were home sick again and returned after five years. We think all the time about whether we could be into tornadoes, hurricanes, extremely hot or cold weather, snow blizzards, sand storms, etc., and realize there is nowhere that we would want to go. VA was becoming liberal, CO was leaning liberal, TX will soon be liberal, Phoenix is too hot, Montana is too cold, etc. So we just keep our heads down, mind our own business, and hope for the best.

    1. You are not alone! Lived here all our lives. Moved outta LA to the Sierra Foothills 30 years ago…..never looked back!

      1. Ooohhhh – Sierra Foothills – I looked it up and I’m drooling already. Keep the lights on – I’m coming up for a visit – a long visit 😉

        1. Dobbins, Grass Valley, Cool, Weed, Eureka, Yreka, Lone Pine, Bishop, all fairly good towns up north, but if the entire state enacts a law, it’s not going to be any different. DMV registration keeps going up no matter how old your vehicle is to pay for welfare, new homes next year must have solar, and I think Nancy has the same treatments as RBG and is never going to go away.

  26. There are many good people who call California home. I hate that they are outnumbered by idiots who vote for politicians that keep heaping on more misery.

    1. Part of the problem is that those good people (but moreso the bad people) don’t actually pay attention to anything going on in their state. So their legislatures rule with impunity, do whatever they want with little pushback, and then Cali’s stand there and lament that they can’t figure out why things aren’t working.

      Seattleites have the same problem.

      1. Once again, you miss the bulls eye. Californians are not voting this crap in. Libtard state law makers draft it up and the Fruit Loops Govs signs it. The electorate is not involved. Same with all the gun laws just so you know.

        1. “The electorate is not involved.”

          Hey B_Rad I must disagree with you on this one, you’re wrong, the electorate voted these people into office. Elections have consequences. The worst of them is the fact that people without a clue are voting for politicians without a clue. This is what we get. Entitlements have destroyed our society.

          1. joyfulgiver

            I think the fix is in when it comes to California electoral process. The jokes on us. Have you ever seen this? And by the way these four families they mention in this video are all major stock holder in PG&E.

            https://youtu.be/CLkF6zLxg_U

    2. Well said sir. I highly doubt a R could ever win here during a presidential election, but I suspect there are a couple million R voters that do not vote because they feel their vote doesn’t matter.

  27. If the feds push to bailout a bankrupt California, I will become very serious about secession. Every day Texit sounds more plausible and much more desirable.

    I will not pay a penny for this insanity.

    1. @txgrunner I don’t know if I have the energy to move again, but if TX secedes, I would seriously consider it.

  28. No way they get off that cheaply – $980 per person, especially of child bearing age – no way, no how.

    Either coverage is limited to iodine and a band-aid, or this will quickly balloon to $980m, then $9.8B, etc.

    …and you’re not talking about healthy youths with few illnesses.

    The group your talking about are more likely to live in filthy conditions, smoke, be over-worked in high-risk jobs, not have required workers comp insurance, have pre-existing conditions that went untreated for years, have rarely (if ever) seen a doctor, have poor dental hygeine, have serious dental issue affecting their overall health, have rarely (if ever) seen a dentist, be unvaccinated, and carriers for diseases long-since wiped out in the US. That doesn’t even get into potential drug abuse, birth rate, and propensity for hereditary diseases or poor health from long-term exposure to bad air and water in their homeland.

  29. I’ve said it before: The best thing for America is if California broke off and floated out to sea.

    I can’t fathom why anyone would live there. The laws, taxes, neighbors… policies, ideology, hippies, freaks, homeless, illegals… the list is endless. Even the natural beauty can’t overcome their stupidity.

    1. Why do you think they all exodus to Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, etc? They can’t wait to ruin those states too.

  30. Only time elected officials care about Californians is on election day when they seek them out and fill out their ballots for them. This is what term limits and public employee union take-over of a state looks like.

  31. It’s totally absurd to ask any Americans to pay for it and even more absurd to expect the uninsured Americans to pay for it. There’s usually a reason why they aren’t insured, and that’s because they can’t afford it.

    To me this is more like seeking vengeance and targeting those that don’t help prop up the health insurance industry. They are totally disconnected to reality. They always talk about the poor but they never miss a chance to make them more poor. Oh…that’s right, maybe they’re trying to force them onto Obamacare. But then it becomes a regressive tax.

  32. I am old and the weather is good. House paid for. It is home. I persist. Another generation will reap this public employee union whirlwind called California, since the unions took overafter the year 2000 — only 18 years of pure Democrat-union corruption.

    Voter backlash is starting to grow. Parcel taxes are failing, voters are making the public pension debt connection, tax the rich no longer sells, since everyone wants to be rich and the Trump courts are finally helping on vagrancy and illegals issues. Cities and counties are pushing back against Sacramento take-overs.

    Younger people are more conservative and bumping up against the social justice warrior generation, who are now in dead end lives and wondering how they missed the train.

    1. Exactly right Factotum! Jerry Brown started the death spiral with collective bargaining…….and now this. I had not heard one word of complaint from libs is this state until the gas tax. No vote, just implemented. Since then, one crisis after another, drought, the homeless, the fires, the crime, all due to one party totalitarian rule.
      Many retirees are leaving that I know Montana, Idaho, Tennessee, guys in their 40 -50s who want their own business are leaving as well.
      I found this article encouraging! https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jim-breslo-california-management.amp

  33. Un, f****ng, BELIEVABLE.

    Liberalism at it’s most perverted and destructive on display in California.

    Message to D.C. ; DO NOT GIVE A PENNY IN FEDERAL FUNDS TO KALIFORNIA.

    1. @blackr1 I wish we could take a vote to kick them out of the U.S.. We can hang with only 49 states.

    2. The best defense now is to push for an amendment requiring 3/4th of state legislatures to consent to any federal bailout of a state, county, or municipality…or just ban it outright.

      Let’s put every single member of congress on record now, whether they’ll support a bailout by making them vote on a constitutional amendment prohibiting bailouts.

  34. What’s scary is if that actually passes there, NY will think it’s genius and want it here. I wish I could move out of this horrible state yesterday.

    1. @kelli I’m sure if it gets bad enough you will find a way. Everyone has their breaking point.

  35. We used to have a word for leaders who sold out their citizenry to pay off foreign invaders. That crime carried with it a very dire punishment.

    And the punishment fit the crime as far as I am concerned…..

  36. I pay for my health care insurance.When I have an appointment at a specific time I want treated at that time and not co-mingled with the uninsured nor the illegal who is possibly carrying a contagious disease.

  37. I thank God I don’t live or have family in California except for an ex daughter-in-law , I think she will be moving to Fl soon , can’t wait to see her !

    1. If Ca. ever receives any of the infrastructure monies,that money will never be used for what it is intended for.We in Ca. will see more and more of this nonsense

  38. Illegals have more rights and freedoms in this country than citizens. I see it in my own city here in Texas every mother f-g day. If it’s this bad in Texas, I can’t imagine what California is like. No way I could live there.

    1. We’ve been going to Irving and Dallas lately, and I notice a lot of Hispanics, but many of them speak unaccented English and seem to be assimilated.

      1. Well, you’re missing out then, Doc. My daughter lost her teacher this year because the teacher was the only one left that could speak Spanish. So she had five different subs this year because there were so many illegal kids who couldn’t understand English. It’s bad around here.

  39. “Tell me conservative Californians, why do you still live there?”

    Some of believe there’s a strong possibility that if we could eliminate the voter fraud in this state, which is freaken out of control, Cali might actually go conservative. We are not permitted to vote on crap like this, it’s just rammed down our throats. Critical mass is right around the corner.

  40. I’m only 40, plan on leaving when I’m eligible to retire in 10 years. I think about it literally every single day. Besides being in the military and spending a year of my life in Afghanistan, 2004-2005, I’ve lived in the Central Valley my entire life.

    Not sure where. Nevada too hot. Arizona too hot. Maybe Wyoming? Never been there though. Montana? I’d like a nice home on about 10 acres in a rural nice area with great quality of life. Where’s that?

    In California the cost of living, gas, food, housing, homeless, gangs, roads, being too close to the Bay Area, electric bills, water bills, DMV, etc…

    If you don’t make at least 100 k here forget about having a nice middle class lifestyle.

    Sorry for my rant…. it’s 106 degrees

    1. Montana and Wyoming very cold. I would suggest Colorado which is a midway point between hot Southern CA weather and the really cold extremes up north. We lived in CO – in a little rural town – on ten acres. It was beautiful. But the winters are a tad long and you can spend a couple months in the snow. Check out Colorado Springs. We were about 40 minutes north of that in a little town called Elizabeth which I wouldn’t recommend. Check the outer edges of Parker and Castle Rock. Both nice towns and you can get acreage on the outskirts. Beautiful country, however, we have a biracial family and it didn’t go well with all the folks in the little town we were in. There’s a big military base in Colorado Springs as well as the headquarters for Focus on the Family. Cost of living a tad cheaper – cost of gas a lot cheaper.

      1. Appreciate the advice. Still lots of great folks here in California. Los Angeles, Hollywood, the Bay Area, Silicon Valley ruin it.

        Luckily I live in the agriculture region, we drive pickup trucks, bbq, believe in god, conservative type folks etc.. salt of the earth type

        We’re all thinking the same thing, trust me.

      2. Yeah, but from what I’ve read, Colorado is just a tad under crazy from California. If one is going to move, go to a solid red state. Colorado has allowed that MaryJane and those crazy mushrooms.

  41. That’s quite a business model. We’re going to count on the most unreliable citizens in our state to pay for the health care of illegal immigrants…

    1. I was listening to RUSH yesterday and he said the President needs to come to California and hold rallies…every month. Can you imagine the uproar from the left if he were to come into the state they deem to be their HOLD? If you look at a congressional map of CA, the majority of the state is RED, it’s the coastline that has large swaths of liberalism, but among them are people just like me fighting to turn that tide. I will say it again, if you live in California don’t turn your back on the insanity, get in the FIGHT, rise up and make California great again.

  42. I not only live in CA but I live in Los Angeles. Why don’t I leave? Well, my husband supports the family with the business contacts he has put together since the early 80’s. We would have to start all over again in our 60/70s and that’s not a very appealing prospect. Three of our grown children live with us, one locked into his job for the next four years and two daughters that have jobs and social lives which they would not want to leave. I have been treated by City of Hope for two years and have ongoing medical needs. I can’t imagine starting up with a new hospital. We once moved to Virginia but were home sick within a couple of years and returned after five. We once moved to Colorado but were home sick again and returned after five years. We think all the time about whether we could be into tornadoes, hurricanes, extremely hot or cold weather, snow blizzards, sand storms, etc., and realize there is nowhere that we would want to go. VA was becoming liberal, CO was leaning liberal, TX will soon be liberal, Phoenix is too hot, Montana is too cold, etc. So we just keep our heads down, mind our own business, and hope for the best.

    1. You are not alone! Lived here all our lives. Moved outta LA to the Sierra Foothills 30 years ago…..never looked back!

      1. Ooohhhh – Sierra Foothills – I looked it up and I’m drooling already. Keep the lights on – I’m coming up for a visit – a long visit 😉

  43. We used to have a word for leaders who sold out their citizenry to pay off foreign invaders. That crime carried with it a very dire punishment.

    And the punishment fit the crime as far as I am concerned…..

  44. I pay for my health care insurance.When I have an appointment at a specific time I want treated at that time and not co-mingled with the uninsured nor the illegal who is possibly carrying a contagious disease.

  45. I thank God I don’t live or have family in California except for an ex daughter-in-law , I think she will be moving to Fl soon , can’t wait to see her !

    1. If Ca. ever receives any of the infrastructure monies,that money will never be used for what it is intended for.We in Ca. will see more and more of this nonsense

  46. Illegals have more rights and freedoms in this country than citizens. I see it in my own city here in Texas every mother f-g day. If it’s this bad in Texas, I can’t imagine what California is like. No way I could live there.

    1. We’ve been going to Irving and Dallas lately, and I notice a lot of Hispanics, but many of them speak unaccented English and seem to be assimilated.

      1. Well, you’re missing out then, Doc. My daughter lost her teacher this year because the teacher was the only one left that could speak Spanish. So she had five different subs this year because there were so many illegal kids who couldn’t understand English. It’s bad around here.

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