Connecting dots between Madison and Occupy movement

A very interesting video by the MacIver Institute, showing how the philosophy and origin of the Occupy movement was also present in Madison, WI during their protests against Gov. Walker:

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90 thoughts on “Connecting dots between Madison and Occupy movement

  1. First of all, great job getting this vid up, TRScoop!

    This post features a lot of great comments, and I hope all’a y’nz stick around to keep this site a refuge for the sane. And the mostly sane.

    1. Some of us don’t like Facebook, I’m one of those. There is no privacy with FB (or Google), none and it amazes me how many people don’t care about our loss of privacy. FB and Goole are far left companies and have strong ties to this Administration. We all have to make decisions as to whether to post comments on any site. I greatly appreciate this site and other bloggers who are doing excellent work so even if I don’t “like” this site, I promote it in other ways by directing traffic.

  2. Socialism/Marxism same shit/new wrapping.

    What happens if a “community” does not want to be part of such “controls”? When does the equivalent of KGB and “re-education” camps come into play, for the benefit of “the great society”?

    OWS: Stupid stupid “useful idiots” people with the real haters in the background (from Marxist professors to liberal mafia). Wherever they progress, rivers of blood and death follow.

  3. So, there answer is to control the work place. What happens when a work place doesn’t exist to control…as in… “Who is John Galt” or I’ll just take my company and go to China…you guys can control away.

  4. And they do the hokey-pokey and turn themselves upside down, and that’s what they’re all about !! They’ll be able to do whatever the group tells them and that’s all. Maybe the group will tell them to go jump in a lake.

  5. sometimes spell correct doesn’t work….so all you people who can spell keep a close eye on me cause i can come up with some dillies….

      1. Yours are. Mine are “features.” Vote for me!

        Kidding. Thank you for knowing this part of the design.

  6. Wake up, protesters! Why aren’t you protesting the illegal health care mandate? Look up Agenda 21 and the health care mandate, fools.

    Your Global Voice for Health & Food Freedom & Justice™
    Read the Freedom Solidarity Proclamation!
    Seven Billion Day: The UN Reaffirms its Support for Genocide.
    We Reaffirm Our Support for the Right of Every Man, Woman and Child to Thrive and Survive!
    A Day of Reflection and Re-Commitment to Action for Health & Food Freedom & Justice
    A Program for the Tea Party, Progressives, Left, Right & Occupy Wall Street!

    “The UN has proclaimed October 31, 2011 “Seven Billion Day” to acknowledge world population reaching this new level. On that day the international globalists will vigorously propagandize their genocidal faux “sustainability” campaign: “What a nice, sustainable world we’d have if we could just get rid of you and you and you and about 6.5 billion of you!”

    The Natural Solutions Foundation, and you and I, resolutely, firmly and completely reject the false idea that there are “too many people” – that you and I, our parents, children, family and friends are “useless eaters” who should just die for the “good” of humanity (which means, in their concept, the globalist elite). The problem is not, despite the propaganda, that there are too many people. The problem is that there are too many people with too much greed who see everything as theirs to devour, whatever the costs.

    Read the rest of the article and the Freedom Solidarity Proclamation here:

        1. Here’s a guess, “…if it is crowded where you are…move.” (?)

          Excuse me Vanna…I’d like to buy a D and an H.

          1. I wasn’t sure if D meant I should move or the protesters should move…English is NOT my first language, can you tell? Smile

            Thanks for your in-put, Alex, er ah, R. LOL!

        2. you Quoted :
          “The UN has proclaimed October 31, 2011 “Seven Billion Day” to acknowledge world population reaching this new level. On that day the international globalists will vigorously propagandize their genocidal faux “sustainability” campaign: “What a nice, sustainable world we’d have if we could just get rid of you and you and you and about 6.5 billion of you!”

          i said if it is crowed…should have been crowded…will change it now…my bad…

          in other words the world is not overpopulated….

          thank you for the help i get happy fingers some times

  7. If the protesters want to get mad about anything, why don’t they get angry at how our taxes and opportunities are being taken away and given to illegals and anchors…

    This is an example of the media’s lies about illegal immigration:

    Michelle B. is right that it is not the American tax payers responsibility to financially take care of anchors. And the media makes her out to be a monster for stating the obvious.

    Michele Bachmann Wouldn’t Do ‘Anything’ To Help Children Of Undocumented Immigrants

  8. The words “useless” and “dangerous” should have one more meaning for each added to the dictionary. The word “liberals” should be added to each: liberals are useless when they are out of power and dangerous when they have a little.

  9. The groups are the same, sponsored by the same money sources, radicals, anarchists, and leftists.
    Michael Goodwin has a great article today drawing comparisons between the Occipiers and “The Lord of the Flies.”

  10. this is demonic influence on a grand scale…note the word communal:
    com•mu•nal [kə myn’l, kómmyən’l]
    1. shared: used or owned by all members of a group or community
    2. of communities: relating to communities or to living in communities
    3. of commune: belonging or relating to a commune
    4. relating to different social groups: relating to or involving different groups within a society
    what did our Founders think about a Democracy:

    [D]emocracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.2 James Madison

    Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.3 John Adams

    A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way.4 The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness [excessive license] which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty.5 Fisher Ames, Author of the House Language for the First Amendment

    We have seen the tumult of democracy terminate . . . as [it has] everywhere terminated, in despotism. . . . Democracy! savage and wild. Thou who wouldst bring down the virtuous and wise to thy level of folly and guilt.6 Gouverneur Morris, Signer and Penman of the Constitution

    [T]he experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.7 John Quincy Adams

    A simple democracy . . . is one of the greatest of evils.8 Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration

    In democracy . . . there are commonly tumults and disorders. . . . Therefore a pure democracy is generally a very bad government. It is often the most tyrannical government on earth.9 Noah Webster

    Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state, it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage.10 John Witherspoon, Signer of the Declaration

    It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion.11 Zephaniah Swift, Author of America’s First Legal Text

    you can read more here:

    1. That’s way our founders set us up as a “republic” and if we are wise we will fight to keep it that way.

  11. Take the teaching and understanding the beauty of the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, And the Pledge of Allegiance out of our schools and you see the product produced in these young idiots who have been robbed of love for the USA and it’s exceptionalism intentionally by the progressives.

    1. this has been the plan all along….dumb down a society to the point they think slavery to an oppressive government–or nanny state- is good for freedom…in the end all liberty and freedom comes from the government…they control all aspects of life…they become god, determining who lives ..who dies.. who gets what and when do a search of Soviet Russia and food lines and food shortages and that my friend is what we will become if we let this regime continue on the current path…Impeach Obama Now….we may not get to the next elections…

      1. We need to cull the herd of occupiers, prove the leaders/bad seeds/no hope for awakening/hard core communist progressive revolutionists and try them for treason, economic terrorism, or sedition along with obama, who is backing and inciting this revolution. They are out of hiding they are telling us who they are. The LSM advertises them.They think they are going to win……..Not. We the People will right this situation.

      2. Yes, my family came from this same political system, you described, it is called Communism. And it is a blight on the human soul and spirit.

        I pray every day, that G-d will protect our wonderful America from the “Communist beast-machine”.

    2. In 1963 in North Hills, Pa. a legal and moral precedent was set, prayer was taken out of the schools. And as a result our schools and country have been in a downward spiral ever since.

      We are in desperate need of HIM in every part of our lives.

  12. In other words; Dude…like we’re really cool about not having to like…uh…think or nothin…ya know, like they just…ya know…tell me what to say and sh!t ya know…and like we all get make the uh, decisions of what we’re like…gonna do in the future…and nobodies gonna take..uh…advantage of us like those evil…uh…bankers and sh!t. We will be able to decide…uh…for ourselves…uh what we want to do…and then…the guys will like…uh…tell us what we need to do and sh!t…and we will have a a a better…uh…life…..ya know…uh

  13. I see they’re in for some bad weather up at good ole OWS.
    I vote that they have to stay in the park and not be allowed to use one bit of fossil fuel.
    That means no burning coal, wood, oil, natural gas, or using electricity.
    They have to survive using the only method they approve of. Conservation.
    They can survive by conserving their body heat.

    If they survive until spring we’ll be impressed. If they freeze to death we’ll grant them a darwin award and thank them on behalf of the gene pool.

    1. I totally agree,let them suffer!!! But realistically we know they have too many allies in politics, the MSM and police forces that for the most part are just mindless watch dogs of their bosses. So they will get away with lighting fires in large metal containers and maybe campfires.SAD BUT TRUE until REAL AMERICANS DEMAND ACTION AGAINST THEM!!!

      1. They could slip and fall on the ice and sue , then be set for life. Hmmmm…… Bloomberger should wise up, sue Soreheads for all expenses, (fire with fire) ? But , Darwins are fine too.

  14. M.S.N.B.C. sent Ed(mentally disturbed) Schultz to Wisconsin to help the unions and leftists attack Gov.Walker and the Republicans and that can only mean that Obama and the Democratic party was behind this dirty trick operation.Obama and the Democratic party are also behind the wall street protests in New York and other cities as a campaign tactic for the 2012 election.Vote Obama and the Democratic party out of office in 2012 before they destroy our country.

    1. I am concerned that we will not have a legitimate election again as obama has to pull some dirty trick to get back into office again. He hasn’t completely destroyed America yet…

  15. Participatory Democracy or hypnotize the lemmings? I think of Mickey in Fantasia as the mindless mops march.

  16. A quote for you, from a patriot/s.adams

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”


  17. Check out how obama’s leftist agenda is taking hold in every segment of our society.

    posted on alipac

    Obama’s marxist plan to dispirit the people of America while forcing on them the fundamental Transformation of America

    While the Troops were Away

    – Judi McLeod
    Thursday, October 27, 2011

    American troops, who will be home for the holidays, face a bleak homecoming similar to that of their courageous brothers and sisters who served in Viet Nam.

    For the sad truth is that while more than 1 million Americans were serving in Iraq, their commander-in-chief threw in his lot with their enemies like Code Pink, and fights not for but against the America 4,481 of them died serving.

    Incredibly, President Barack Obama sets more store in the Army he called a “national security force” back in July 2008 “that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded as the military”; the army now recognized as OWS (Occupy Wall Street).

    The Army in the Park preferred by Obama never has to dodge the bullets of a barbaric enemy. The closest they ever come to “sleeping outside” is when it’s their shift to brave staying overnight in a municipal park. They don’t have to get by on military MRE meals, but dine on gourmet organic food delivered on site.

    This Army which is populated by Code Pink, GreenPeace, anarchists and all-round America haters, uses the front stoops of Manhattans as their latrine but still gets regular ‘buck-ups’ from the likes of Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin and Susan Sarandon.

    While courageous American troops were losing lives and limbs in Iraq, Obama’s special army worked and is still working on taking down the same capitalist system that got them to where they are today.

    Last week, James Kvaal, new policy director for President Obama’s 2012 campaign, dug down deep in the Election Opportunities Bag and did a little boasting for his boss: “Yesterday, we accomplished on major change when President Obama announced that all American troops in Iraq will be home before the holidays.”

    This could be the one thing that is truly George W’s fault.

    Obama may have announced the Iraq troop withdrawal, but it was former President George W. Bush who arranged the Status of Forces agreement signed November 17, 2008.

    “That agreement plainly stated that the plan was for all US troops to be out by December 31, 2011, so for Obama to take credit for this is just an absolute lie.” (Danny Gonzalez, Move America Forward, Oct. 21, 2011).

    Only someone who never wore a uniform, someone who never had to stare down the enemy’s bullet, or risk life and limb to save the lives of brothers and sisters in arms would treat American troops, to whom so many owe their own peace and liberty, so shabbily.

    One thing we can thank Obama for with the return of the troops is that the absentee ballots of the last election can now be replaced by boots on the ground voting right on home turf.

    When we look back in the fullness of time, it will be easy to see how Barack Obama gave the troops the same bum’s rush he accorded to America’s glorious space shuttle, ending the race in space for the same America who put the first men on the moon.

    Obama, whose administration leans heavily on the Marxist strategy of demoralization, wants to file Operation Iraqi Freedom under ‘f’ for failure. He seeks to remove from America the admirable status of a country that can be counted on to come to the rescue of all those whose democracy is threatened.

    When the troops come home they will see with their own eyes what a single administration did to a once-thriving country in three short years. The Obama administration strives to make a Grade B movie out of the dignified American life so many others aspire to.

    The Hope and Change that brought a community organizer to the President’s Office goose-steps a Marxist plan to dispirit the people of America while forcing on them the fundamental Transformation of America.

    But all is not lost for returning troops who will see that the same courageous spirit that led them to stand guard for freedom and liberty is not only alive and well, but flourishing in the people of America, who against all odds, are holding on for better days.

  18. Dear Lefties:

    I am a human who understands history. I also understand the implications of creeping socialism/communism. If you understood it, you would be right there with me. It isn’t a joke. It’s a serious issue. It’s life or death. Freedom or slavery. Choose a side. I already have. Neither my children, nor my grandchildren will live under communistic/socialistic rule. They will be free. They will be able to worship as they see fit, and they will never, ever, subordinate themselves to a Stalin, a Mao, a Pol Pot, a Chavez, or an Obama. Got it?!

    You just sit there and say “strike, occupy, whatever”,…like a frog getting boiled slowly to death, but never moves. As for me and mine, we demand freedom, free enterprise and a constitutionally controlled government that does not overstep it’s bounds.

    Communism always begins with a likable guy that can look you right in the eye and lie with a smile. In this country, that guy is Obama and his progressive minions. It’ll get no further down the “road to serfdom” than these. I and others will be slamming the brakes on this bastard.

    I’ll take namecalling from you and others, but I will NOT take slavery over freedom. The left needs to be anihilated. You might consider waking up your family and yourself. This isn’t a game. This is our country, our culture and our lives. I take it seriously.

    I will enjoy my life. I will have fun and make the most of it, but he who would take my freedoms, or those of my family, best rethink his or her plans.

    Rshill7…one vote, one voice

    1. Concur. As I once told my misguided nephew, I am willing to die to retain my freedom. Are you willing to die trying to take it from me? Liberta´

      1. Dittos…

        The New Hampshire motto “Live Free Or Die” takes on deeper meaning now.

        Freedom is truth.
        Truth is freedom.

        Are the red-diaper-doper-babies and neo-marxist “workers of the world united” mentally and emotionally ready, willing and able to die… for a lie?


        1. The short answer is no . . . for the most part. I have a habit of breaking-up groups into categories. The majority of those two-legged parasites infesting our cities will not willingly die for a lie, or anything else for that matter. They are too lazy to even work and too ignorant to articulate what it is they want, much less a justification for their demands. The generation represented has never known anything but freedom and plenty. Their needs and desires have been met by others, with no effort on their part. I doubt they have ever experienced needing or wanting something so badly they were willing to work for it, much less fight for it. But there is a faction that is not adverse to violence, however cowardly they are at employing it, and that faction will draw the other useful idiots into the mire. Less than 20% of the population has ever identified as “uber-liberal,” and that group includes self-identified Marxist/communist/socialist, who currently refer to themselves as “progressive” (tyranny by any other name). We can only hope that, while we outnumber them, a sufficient number of us are aware, prepared and willing to “live free or die.” Liberta´

        1. Thank you. Of course not. His response was the old dear-in-the-headlights stare, probably because he never thought that living his “philosophy” would entail having to do more than pontificate about it, much less die for it.

          It is sad. My nephew, now 25 years old, is extremely bright, but alas, educated in the public school system. When we debate, (and believe me, any discussion of politics is a debate that makes Perry and Romney look like bosom buddies), he can do no more than parrot his teachers, or should I say propagandists? Those of this generation have been trained to parrot, not to think, and it takes too much effort for them to do so. You can see the pain in his face when confronted with a question for which he has no rote answer.

          I have made some inroads with reason but I believe life has made more; he is on his own and working now, and trust me, he does not like the thought of spreading HIS wealth. Our problem is, I don’t think we have enough time left for these kids to get up to speed on their own via the school of hard knocks we call life.


          1. “Trained to parrot”…

            LibertaM, you must have had some very memorable discussions with your 25 year old nephew, and “… spreading HIS wealth” sounds like a solid foundation for future education.

            Many wiser men and women have said, “brevity is the soul of wit.”

            So, for the counter-placards at “occupy” wherever, here is a little bit of wit for easy consumption that even mind numbed robots can digest and feel fulfilled with.

            Freedom is truth.
            Truth is freedom.

            Will you die for a lie?

            Soros has capital(ist) gains.

            Tell Soros to spread HIS capitalist wealth… now!


            1. Ah! But, Art, therein lies the rub. Soros, and his ilk, have given new meaning to the word capitalism, and it is ugly. Those of us from generations past grew up believing capitalism was the definition of an economic system where the means of production were in the hands of the private sector. Most capitalist used their wealth (including the wealth of innovation, skill or talent, to say nothing of hard work) to produce something someone else needed or wanted, and thereby enriched themselves, as well as the buyer. More importantly, they bore the risk of failure and adversely affected no one much beyond themselves when they failed.

              Soros produces nothing. In fact, he uses his wealth to destroy as a means to further enrich himself, impoverish others and gains power as a result; and it is intentional. Add to that those who are heading the large financial institutions, who might not have as sinister a goal as Soros, but who nonetheless control the currency, are in a position to manipulate the economy for gain, while producing nothing tangible, and then run to the tax payer for a bailout when they fail. This is not capitalism.

              The uneducated, inexperienced and jealous parasite sees this and is unable to discern the difference between these people and the capitalists of old or even the small business owner of today. All he sees is someone who has lots of money, and the parasite wants it. He, of course, will never get it, despite the promises of corruptocrats who game the system to enrich themselves and will end up with the spoils in the end, at least until it runs out and they are forced to face the reality that they killed the goose that laid the golden egg. But that matters little to the parasite, so long as he perceives no one else has it; that would not be “fair” (what I call the new four-letter “F” word).

              We would all do well to heed this Commandment: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s goods.

              By the by, I wish I had the talent to be witty through brevity. But, as you can see, I tend to be long-winded!


      2. Excellent point, L.

        “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

        — Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 175

    2. RIGHT ON…RIGHT ON…..RIGHT ON!!!!!!!

      talk to the people around you…at work at church…even at wally-world…one person at a time will start an avalanche that will not be contained…..

      GET-ER DONE—–

  19. The same folks who were behind and led the protests of the 60s and 70s are leading and prompting these.

    Here in Florida, we learned a long time ago… As long as you have sweet fruit like oranges, there are bound to be rats and other vermin.

    It is too bad for them that this time we have better access to true communication, as in the case of this spokesperson…

    Have a great evening. LOL


  20. Individual vs. Collective…

    See why the rhetoric is confusing.

    1 to promote the many individuals
    Many to promote the 1 of the collective

    Individualism = Independence –
    All for 1 and 1 for all… and EVERY body for himself … to protect all

    Collectivism = Dependence –
    All for 1 and 1 for all… and NO body for himself … to protect all

    See why the rhetoric is confusing?


      1. Dittos…

        Or, with humor, a twinkle in the eye… and as Rush might say, “I know, that’s why I said it.”

        But seriously, this comparison and contrast between individualism and collectivism has been on my mind for over 30 years, and with the internet, I can FINALLY get it off my mind and share it with the world.


        1. I have wondered about that as well. Do these people actually believe they are doing anything productive or accomplishing a “goal” by sitting around, chanting and drumming? I wonder if any of them have come to the sudden realization that maybe this event is just a huge waste of their time?

          Personally, I have a really hard time even staying in a meeting if I feel it’s not productive or accomplishing anything. I have a very, very short “don’t waste my time” fuse. I’d rather be cleaning a chicken house than sitting around (loitering is not too strong a word for this) like a bum on someone else’s property.

          It would be interesting to find out if any of them have grown tired of the sheeple movement and have left to do other things. Someone could get a great interview from the disillusioned sheeple people.

          1. “Someone could get a great interview”…

            And someone could write a great “I was there but I grew up” story.

            Possible working title #1 –
            “Occupy: Bongos, Booze and Burnin’-the-Bush”

            Possible working title #2 –
            “Occupy: Free Food With Al K. Hall and Mary Juana”


  21. What else is new…

    Puppets on a string doing the boots on the ground “occupy” grunt work while the “thinkers” are pullin’ the strings… with Soros capital gains.


  22. Wow, talk about group think and pure brainwashing! These people are scarily stupid.
    I had no idea there were that many sheeples willing to be…, yea…sheeples.

    1. “Brainwashing” indeed. By the way, there is a nationwide afterschool program called [Think Together] and all they do is chant whatever the coordinators throw at them. They are fed a snack, with our tax dollars of course. They are being encouraged to think as a collective, and individual indentity and thinking skills are being stripped away little by little. Therefore, as a result of, the students have been losing there ability to conduct academic and social probems independently. What is evern more sad is that the parents think it is a simple after school care program where the children are helped with homework for an hour and half or so.

      1. “Wide eyed” expression here….if only America would have kept God in reverance, He would have kept us. I’m grateful He still keeps the individual. 🙂

    2. If you are afraid of these people, please try to find a good place to hide now. What may come will be far more frightening than these.


        1. That was “stupid on steroids”!
          Let me clairify…not you, but that woman in the video! She had to have been brought up on drugs or something…that can’t be normal!

      1. I have my hiding place, His Name is Jesus. His Name is a Strong Tower and the righteous run into It. 🙂

      2. That woman ? was angling for her own personal body guard courtesy of you and me ???? She needs to quit smoking the wacky-backy, she’s paranoid and toopid too !

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