Damn The Democrat And Rove BS Machines: Full Steam Ahead

This past week, I was listening to WMAL’s Mornings On The Mall morning show and caught two segments this past Wednesday and Thursday which got me to thinking about what exactly is a conservative and where does the party go from here. Well, this editorial is my response to those two radio segments.

Back when I was a kid, being a “conservative” was the norm for people irrespective of party affiliation. Conservatives could be described by the following attributes: 1.) Love of Flag and Country; 2.) Embracing the Founders, Natural Law and Nature’s God; 3.) Pro Life; 4.) Against the sins of the Canaanites; 5.) Staunchly anti-Communist; 6.) Country first, last and always; 7.) Rugged Individualism -The belief that all individuals can succeed on their own and that government help for people should be a last resort.

Those attributes were common across the board. Leftism existed on a quieter scale. Even if teachers embraced the left, they continued to teach in the more traditional liberal fashion, allowing all sides a place at the debate table.

Today, Indoctrination U (the Screw-all system) has managed to railroad the children into a square box with only one view on things: the left’s. Conservatism is a bad word denoting racism, hatred of LGBT, American Indians, and any idea that does not promote ‘white guilt’ and the progressive (read Communist) agenda.

In the Republican Party, it seems that conservatism is more of a “to each his own definition”

I beg to differ.

The Republican Party, because of its acquiescence to the effective meme(s) being thrown at it by the Obama “truth ministers” (MSM) and its (Republican) internal squabbles is falling on its collective a$$.

The problems of the party, therefore, are not limited to the Goebbels-like Ministry Of Truth (MSM). No. The problems are also internal and as I see it are two-fold. First we have the paleocons and then we have the establishment win-at-any-cost types like Karl Rove.



The Establishment types talk about electability. But in reality, how many so-called “electable” candidates that Rove and Co. have put up in the last election won? Try none. That’s right, nada, zilch, zero.

So who won – and I might add – who won the House back in 2010? Well it sure wasn’t the Rove Establishment types. It was the Tea Party.

What distinguishes the Tea Party is that it is a coalition of Values Voters from both parties and the neocons. Don’t get your panties in a wad Levin fans – I’m not talking about Paleocons. Neocons are those who embrace Tocqueville, Adam Smith, the Founders, and American Exceptionalism. See the Symposium that I wrote last week for a reference.

Paleocons are the Pat Buchanans of the party, who make statements such as: “We need to stop getting involved in foreign entanglements that are none of our business.” Or as one of the the deans of Paleocons himself wrote:

“America is “impotent” because “we have allowed Israel to dictate to whom we may and may not talk.”

“Israeli airstrikes [are] an outlawed form of collective punishment, that has left [Hezbollah supporters] with no sanitation, rotting food, impure water and days without light or electricity in the horrible heat of July.”

He sagely (sarc) concludes: “And we wonder why they hate us.”

Way to prove your ignorance of all things jihadist, Pat. Way to denigrate a country that is under constant missile and mortar attack simply because they happen to be Jewish. Their enemies hate them because their so-called religion tells them to kill the Jews. To a jihadi killing a Jew is an act of worship of their false god Allah.

Paleocons ought to at least have the canastas to admit that they hate the Jews and stop pretending otherwise.

Fortunately, Paleocons have no power in the party. The left however, uses them like the useful idiots that they are. Cases in point: Alex Jones, Joe Scarboro and Chuck Hagel.

Couching great conservatives like Brent Bozell in the enigma of “hateful this or that” is just an exercise in leftist crap weaselry.

The Tea Party is the coalition that can bring victory in 2014, 2016 and beyond. The idea of “electability” needs to be redefined by the party to what it has always been: When conservatives stand on principal, they win. When they morph into Dhimiratz, they lose.

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unseen
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unseen

I didn’t leave the GOP the GOP left me. Screw the GOPe to hell with them. they aren’t worth the time to worry about.

friskyness
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friskyness

The GOP will never win another presidential election again, unless the party purges the rino’s! It’s that simple…..rino’s are worthless, just a waste of space! Get rid of the establishment, otherwise welcome to the permanent wilderness!

Eric Blair
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Eric Blair

REPUBLICAN?

You were a Democrat or a Wig or a Federalist etc. etc. until you defected to Wisconsin less than a hundred years ago and drank son much milk you began slurring your words and when the rest of the traitors ask for a title for there cult you half bleched burped and Farter the sound:

REPUBLICAN?

Rejoin the UNION before it’s too late for you!

We are trying to build a free nation again, join us or get out and rejoin our enemy!

If you didn’t like the man who was never born why did you support him and let him get elected TWICE? Why isn’t Pillosi in a hospital?

You Quisslings had the vote all three times!

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me thrice FIX BAYONETS!

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wraith67

I think the problem is that the RNC and their consultants and the Beltway types at the WS and NRO don’t give a crap. All they do is talk about more and more principles to ditch (so we can be more like Democrats) – but the bottom line is they’re still getting a big fat paycheck no matter how many times the RINOs they promote lose. And some of these Republicans (Boehner) would be perfectly happy to be in the minority, eat the nice lunches and play golf with the Dems. I don’t give money to the RNC and give directly to the candidates I like (even the ones out of state). I think we need to starve these guys (of money) out of their jobs.

57thunderbird
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57thunderbird

Yep.I have been giving my money to individual campaigns rather than the RNC for the last two election cycles.The RNC gets not one red cent from me.

57thunderbird
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57thunderbird

I was just watching Fox News until they said Karl Rove was up next.That is when I decided it was time to visit RS.Get off the stage Karl.Your 15 minutes of fame has expired.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

As much as I loathe the term, I think we are witnessing the “Balkanization” of American political philosophy and as a result “parties”.

c4pfan
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c4pfan

Lumping in immigrants from the past to who they are now is a mistake, like saying minorities from past decades (see Cubans) are the same is a mistake too.

JohnMartin Mull
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JohnMartin Mull

Yes c4pfan, these awful new immigrants are so much worse than those old school(read white) immigrants of years past. And America was so welcoming to them like “No Irish and No dogs Allowed” signs. “WOPS” for Italian immigrants that meant “without papers” and so much more. But now they are a part of the American tapestry and so will be the new immigrants in future generations. You love the Cuban immigrants because they are proto-fascist anti-communists. Even your GOP is coming around and your ilk is the past and the browning of America is the future no matter what you think and I, for one, can’t wait for that to continue.

ryanomaniac
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ryanomaniac

I for one hope you’re black and blue.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Once again, hyperbole is all you on the left have.

JohnMartin Mull
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JohnMartin Mull

Ahh, Montana. Home of ted Kyzinski and Ken. I think ted turner has a place there also. Enjoy.

lanahi
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lanahi

Montana is one of the most beautiful places in the nation and home of some of the most independently minded people. I’m sure Ken DOES enjoy his state.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I do I do. wink

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

It’s spelled “Kaczynski”, and he is a native of Chicago (imagine that) as for Turner owning property here, so do a lot of people. Apparently, the only point you have is the one atop your head. As I stated before, hyperbole is all you have, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

JRD1
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JRD1

When this WOPs grandfather went to register as a Democrat he was told that the Democrat party didn’t want any stinking WOPS. Every single one of my grandfather’s 12 children and their offspring aren’t stinking Democrats. BIGOT!

JohnMartin Mull
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JohnMartin Mull

You only prove my point that previous groups immigrating to the US faced the same hostilities that hispanics face today and then go on to be Republicans, Democrats, Independents and frankly, Americans. I was not insulting Italian people as I am one-qaurter Italian and one-Qaurter Irish so I sympathize with their struggles to become part of the American fabric as I do the hispanics attempting to do the same thing.

JRD1
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JRD1

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Previous groups immigrating came here legally. That’s all the difference in the world.

No one here has any problem with people coming to America legally AND assimilating into society. My ancestors came here and learned and spoke English, not Italian.

You want to call Americans bigots because they want illegal immigrants to obey the rules. You are twisting the argument. Our ancestors came to these shores legally, so can theirs.

Every time someone tries to call out a collectivist for not abiding by the law of the land they get called childish names like, bigot, racist, homophobes. Take your spin somewhere else.

JohnMartin Mull
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JohnMartin Mull

You’re ancestors came legally because they were allowed. The hispanics come “illegally” because we don’t “allow” anyone to come legally anymore. Look, I’m ready to seal the borders and deport just as soon as we give back most of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and half of California. Remember, those lands were taken through aggressive war. Now, we can fix the broken system and do it correctly or surrender what is rightfully the property of Mexico. Those are the facts.

JRD1
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JRD1

The illegal immigrants came here illegally,period. Everyone has to follow rules.

Listen we were taught American History not Howard Zinn’s collectivist fairytale “A People’s History of the United States” social justice drivel.

It is not our fault that you were indoctrinated and dumbed down.

In the campaign for the 1986 amnesty law, Ted Kennedy, “THE SWIMMER”, predicted that the law would grant citizenship to no more than 1.3 million people. “We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this,” he said.

Never means never.

lanahi
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lanahi

Many come here legally still. And most of them become Americans who want to be part of the nation, not set themselves aside as a separate group within the nation. The melting pot worked. A multicultural nation doesn’t work if you want a strong united country. We all became Americans with loyalty to this new land, not hyphenated Americans who want to make this part of Mexico or something. My grandparents were Germans from Russia (Volga Germans). They had 12 kids with them, $12 in their pockets, knew no one in the new land, and knew no English. Soon my grandfather owned his own very productive farm. The proudest day of my grandmother’s life was the day, after she spent many years learning English, when she was sworn in as an American citizen…in English. They quit being Volga Germans and didn’t insist that the government translate anything for them into… Read more »

Mary Sieg
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Mary Sieg

Excellent post, JRD1! My ancestors came from Germany in the 1890’s. My great grandfather worked on the railroad in Germany, then in Burlington, Iowa. They came in thru the front door…Ellis Island. they learned English and had sons and grandsons who served, faught and died in both WW’s. They loved the United States and were proud…so proud to become citizens. If you want to come here….great….get in line and follow the rules. We are, or at least used to be a nation of laws. Thanks for sharing your views. I have never heard ANYONE say immigration is bad….just illegal ones.

JohnMartin Mull
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JohnMartin Mull

If the allowable legal entry numbers had been the same for hispanics as they were for the Siegs then we would have around 30 million legal hispanics by now. All the Republican’s would have to do to send them all back would be apply the laws against employers and fine the companies that employ these people but they won’t. Wonder why not?

Laurel
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Laurel

In reality Pat Buchanan has never been front and center of the Republican Party. That is why he is marginalized and never been elected only appointed to public office. I grow tired of the ‘paleo’ and the ‘neo’ crap. The real true problem with Republicans right now is a lack of leadership. Now the establishment may define leadership in one way but the electorate defines it entirely different. We are still looking for a warrior/s. Here is an example: Why in the heck did Republican Senators vote for Kerry for Sec. of State? Why? Right off of the top Democrats would have blocked any nomination a Republican put out there. Next up Kerry is a traitor. He lied under oath during a time of war about his fellow soldiers and countrymen. In my mind that disqualifies. But he could of been blocked for political reasons too. It’s time to fight… Read more »

c4pfan
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c4pfan

I agree with a lot you posted. There is no leadership, but there sure is a lot pandering.

The top issues are our economy and the debt, but the focus are gun control and ‘immigration reform’.

Laurel
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Laurel

Because Republicans are reacting to Obama instead of getting him to react to them. Any gun control legislation should never see the light of day in the house and Republicans should just say so and tell the Democrats and the media to just say “Thank you!” for saving them from themselves.

Same with immigration.

Then Republicans better start bombarding the airwaves and social media getting their message out but at this time I’m not even sure they have a message to get out.

lanahi
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lanahi

The economy recovers when government gets out of the way. Gun control is permanent, and the effects of wholesale amnesty is permanent. This makes these two issues most important.
Gun control is about the most important issue there is, because it attacks our right to defend ourselves from rogue government…it is the teeth to all the other Bill of Rights.

maketcomp
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maketcomp

Ditto, Laurel. There is no way Kerry should have been confirmed for dog catcher given his abhorent rants about the military. But, Hagel is worse and these incompetent democrats and maybe some republicans are going to confirm this incompetent boob just because he was one of them. Just because he was once a Senator does not make him anymore competent-look no further than the president.

Laurel
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Laurel

And they do so at their own peril. Obama wants Hagel for several reasons. A Republican whipping boy. A Republican to blame crap on. A low IQ deviant that can be controlled. A Republican anti-Semite.

The bad PR Republicans will get from Hagel is priceless to Obama. Let’s face facts…that is why he uses Colin Powell. No one on either side of the aisle respects him.

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K-Bob

Ahh, this dovetails nicely with my comment the other day on Rubio. Good stuff, 911Infidel! I have a couple of things to discuss relevant to this. The first is a recap of part of what I wrote in that Rubio comment, with more development. The second is a discussion about third (fourth, fifth, etc.) parties. 1) Concerning conservatives As I wrote the other day, the Republican party comprises several factions, among which are the following: A) The old, “Rockerfeller” Republicans B) Beltway “Masthead and Columnist” Republicans C) Neo-Cons D) Cotton Conservatives E) Reagan Conservatives F) Values Conservatives G) Buchanan Conservatives H) libertarian/fiscal cons I) neo-libertarians (I pointedly use the lowercase ‘l’ for libertarian here because I do not mean hardcore, Rothbard versus Rockwell, Libertarian Party activists and organizers.) Without bothering to detail much about most of these groups, I want to focus on where I consider the “heart” of Conservatism… Read more »

JRD1
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Here’s some Rubio articles for you to read. Rubio is a Bush insider. We got hoodwinked.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article1127114.ece

http://www.prez16.com/2013/02/marco-rubios-very-pixar-story.html

hateobamacare
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hateobamacare

Just because some liberal rag writes an article about Rubio doesn’t make it true. I cannot speak with authority on Rubio’s position or character, but WON’T allow the MSM to define anything for me.

JRD1
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JRD1

Do the research for yourself.

Trust but verify.

Rubio is Jeb Bush’s client. Find out for yourself.

hateobamacare
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hateobamacare

You’re kidding, right? Trust them? Nearly all of my trust in the news media has evaporated. Even Fox News leans left, but I can listen to them without having a constant urge to puke.

JRD1
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JRD1

Oh really. Ronaldus Maximus said, “Trust but verify.” You remember Nicole Wallace of “Game Change” fame. Yes, that scumbag cretin who along with Steve “Schmidt for brains” ran McLame’s campaign and set up Sarah Palin to be torpedoed by her friend pudgy Katie Couric. Yes, that dirtbag Nicole Wallace who worked in the Bush White House. Yes, that POS Nicole Wallace who believes all conservatives are Neanderthal idiots. Well go find the video of “This Week with George Snuffleufagus” of this morning 2/10/13. This is what the slimeball Nicole Wallace had to say this morning. “Look, Rubio is everything we need and more. He’s modern. He knows who Tupac is. He is on social media. He has the blessing of the old political establishment and he is close to the younger Bushes. He and Jeb and George P. Bush have kind of an Axis of Enlightenment when it comes to… Read more »

maketcomp
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maketcomp

Did she really say that, Rubio knows who Tubac is?! You know we can almost count on Sean Hannity’s to bring us posers or RINO. Nicole Wallace, Ann Coulter, Karl Rove, Dana (Bush’s press secretary), and now Marco Rubio and on and on. And Sean wants us to beleive that he is a Conservative?

K-Bob
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K-Bob

“That’s right shoot your mouth off and shoot the messenger instead of taking the responsibility and doing the research yourself because you need somebody else to blame when you find out you got hosed again.”

A bridge too far. I don’t see that going on here.

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Okay Bob, point made.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Well, that’s certainly a clue that there are ties to Jeb. What I want to know is how strong are his ties to any Tea Party types? I’m guessing they are more on the order of names on a Rolodex that he consults when THEY call HIM.

I don’t mind Rubio being in the Senate, and I won’t even mind it too much if he becomes another McCain or Graham type. But I sure as heck don’t see any reason to get behind any bid by him for the White House. Not unless he accepts the task of becoming a champion for Restoration.

maketcomp
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maketcomp

First I am really suspicious about Beck’s move toward Libertarianism. There are so many factions there that it makes your head spin. I disagree with Libertarians on just about everything. For example , they want same-sex marriage, legalization of drugs, containment, and I can go on and on. Beck says “if it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg” then he’s not concern. Ok then, Mr. Beck! Same-sex marriage has short-term and the long-term consequences. Short-term, marriage has always been defined as between one man and one women and it has proven to be the best arrangement to support the family. If you listen to libertarians and their same-sex leads to the destruction of the family and because of that leads to the breakdown of marriage which allows the Government an opportunity to interfere with the family unit using welfare and social services. Long-term same-sex marriage will led to… Read more »

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I think Beck must believe that we can take over the LP and “normalize” them. But Libertarians (and the lowercase ‘l’ versions in the Republican party) are pretty much the most informed, hardcore, political philosophy minds in the world (not the bandwagon, drug-using, latecomer, neo-libertarians).

Beck will discover that he isn’t going to get them to move an inch.

As to your point about “consequences,” a sizeable chunk of Libertarians recognize that communities and even states have the power and responsibility to establish laws governing things like marriage, abortion, and road use. They just want the guiding principle to be “least necessary governance.”

However the ones championing “gay marriage” are simply misguided. And it doesn’t matter if the person in question is as brilliant as Glenn Reynolds or not. Intelligence alone is not enough to avoid spectacular mistakes in reasoning.

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lanahi

Americans COULD vote for the best person, even if he or she ran as an independent. A third party could be organized over time if the GOPe allowed conservative candidates to run, otherwise more would have to run independent or a third party would have to be formed quickly. In any case, it’s the candidate himself who has to sell himself as both parties become damaged. Political parties had no part of the original founding philosophy, and we don’t need them now either. I think many voters have quit having any loyalty to one party or another…maybe we’re growing up enough now to find and pick the right candidates no matter what the parties do. The main problem with anyone who runs these days is money. Political parties can raise more money for their candidates, so that is their main advantage. But all the money Romney had behind him didn’t… Read more »

JoJo58
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JoJo58

The presidential election is pretty much in the hands of about 37,000 voters. Elections are down to a science all you need is a majority in key counties in key states. Liberals are flocking to Austin and Dallas. Once there’s enough to flip Texas blue, we’re done. People laugh about californians leaving the state, but WHERE are these idiots going? Liberals have left NY and moved to NC, GA, and TN to get away from taxes, but push political agendas that put these state at risk and jack up taxes. There will be no place to go because the cockroaches have infested everything. So for that reason, I think electoral college votes should be portioned, not a winner take all.

John
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John

We must protect our rights with a mature use of all guns. Please send this petition to our elected officials so they could concentrate regarding the true problem.

(CLICK ON BOTTOM LINK)

http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/

Robert Johnson
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Sorry, there is no hope of ever having another anybody on the “right wing” side winning the presidency. The marxists have carefully worked and planned this for decades. They hold all the high ground, the universities, education, government workers, tens of millions of illegal third world immigrants who will vote for whomever promises to give them stuff, most of the young and 95% of the media are bought and paid for. The media alone is the most powerful tyranny in the country. They can either black out or ridicule to death anyone who crosses the left in any way. There is also great evidence that the marxists infiltrated into the election and vote counting area and control that, too. “Elections” are finished as a way to fairness and change. It’s over. Just like 1933 in Germany. Power has passed into the hands of the few. The gates have been built… Read more »

JRD1
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JRD1

Sorry to be so blunt but, why don’t you just go and pick out the coffin now? I’m never giving up, N.E.V.E.R. My grandparents left Europe and traveled to America in steerage not so much to give themselves or their children a better life but to give their children’s children a better life. Well, that’s me. I owe it to my grandparents for what they sacrificed for me. I’ll be damned if I give in and wimp out because I refuse to confront someone or I’m too intimidated to fight off some indoctrinated statist. I can out argue, out Alyinski, and outlast any of these limp takers. As a matter of fact I have been told on several occasions by these limp wimps that I am downright intimidating because I absolutely refuse to not make them feel guilty about the particular type of government welfare they are talking up, even… Read more »

las1
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las1

Get your Grrrrr on! That and what K-Bob said a while back…

I hereby accept and endorse the dictum of Patrick Henry without reservation.

Because that’s what it’s going to take.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Woohoo! I’m still totally ready to double down on that remark, too.

The fight is only over when I’m 100% dead.

PhillyCon
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PhillyCon

What if in key moments in history, certain leaders took your attitude? Just think about how impossible it was for George Washington … there were many times where the war with Britain was lost.

All your points are valid. But why do leaders on our side become victims of Alinsky? Maybe, its b/c people on our side don’t fight and defend them. Maybe, its b/c people on our side can’t take the heat when they go after one of our guys. What does the Left do? They support their own like Pelosi, Biden and Reid. Our side does the opposite and that’s why we lose.

Yes, we have the culture stacked against us. But, its also our fault.

Ray Brown
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Ray Brown

I can’t wait till we have strong leaders in our movement

anneinarkansas
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anneinarkansas

I am a staunch Tea Party Conservative.
All I want is to Win in 2014.
We must Stop Squabbling and come together.
Every state is different.
Let’s vote for the candidate that we choose in our state and stop fighting each other.
Defeating Obama and the socialists must be our only goal.
Who cares who funds it or supports it?
Karl Rove and Rand Paul need to shake hands and work together.
If we stay split we will lose again.
Do You want that?
I do not.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

“Damn The Democrat And Rove BS Machines: Full Steam Ahead”

Yep. Damn ’em to Hell.

Indiana
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Indiana

Finally, back to politics.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Are you planning to be 100% wrong here as well?

Indiana
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Indiana

Hardly. I do not believe I am wrong int he first place when it came to the argument on faith and the fact that homosexuality is not a sin but that homosexual acts are sinful.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Right. Neither is murder, theft, and serial child abuse. Got it.

What you “believe” is irrelevant.

The Right Scoop
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The Right Scoop

ok ok, let’s not duplicate that thread here.

Please.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

ok ok.

JohnMartin Mull
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JohnMartin Mull

Please, please change your name. I’m from Indiana and you are embarrassing this fine state. Sins and sinful are in the eye of the beholder but not relevant to secular society.

aposematic
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aposematic

I’m going to need some help here: What is a “Democrat value voter”????? Maybe someone could name one?

Wigglesworth
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Wigglesworth

I thought they were extinct.

Wigglesworth
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Wigglesworth

“When conservatives stand on principal, they win. When they morph into Dhimiratz, they lose.”

We will see what happens in the next few months. Lately it feels like we have a democrat-controlled House. Whatever the dem Senate passes Boehner pushes through. It doesn’t look good for the party or the country.

Ray
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Ray

What you are missing is most of the Republicans are NOT conservatives, they purged the conservatives from leadership positions after this election. They are moderates, the problem with moderates is, they don’t stand for anything.

Ray
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Ray

I know I am a broken record, BUT, we have, as conservatives TWO political parties against us, the Democrats and the Republican establishment, WHAT IS KEEPING US IN THE REPUBLICAN FOLD???

sDee
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sDee

I left after 40+ years. The railroading of Allen West was the last straw.

Ray
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Ray

Good for you sDee, I will continue to be an evangelical TEA party promoter.

TLaMana
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TLaMana

The railroading of Cain and West has pretty much done it for me.

dmacleo
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dmacleo

yup. these were not done by the “left” but by the very party they were members of.
funny how so many failed to report that one of the supposed cain incidents occurred when he wasn’t even there.
only WSJ touched upon it and they never followed up.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Nice profile pic!

Wigglesworth
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Wigglesworth

I’m on the edge of leaving. If I’m there I’m sure there are thousands more thinking just like me. If the establishment thinks compromising and pushing through Obama/Reid agenda over the next year and a half is going to help them they are in for a rude awakening in 2014.

americalsgt
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americalsgt

Fear. There is no reason to stay if you feel this way. It took the republican party just 6 years to go from its inception in 1854 to the White House. I just don’t like the term tea party. Maybe it’s the whole media promoting teabagger handle.

Ray
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Ray

Why let them take another good term? The Boston Tea Party is a fact, and it was done by patriots. All they would have to do is find some stupid way to make fun of any name chosen, AND THEY WILL!

Ramparts360
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Ramparts360

I like your attitude. Keep it up!

maketcomp
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maketcomp

I have always wondered why the Republican Party has not made the very real inroads on Capitol Hill that is necessary for opportunity and growth. And listening to Rove I have come to understand that the Rove republicans, affectionately the RINOs or GOPe, have not live up to the ideals of Lincoln. Lincoln’s republican party was born from the elimination of slavery and the idea that no man has the right to shackle another man and taking away the right to be free, echoed in the Constitution’s- life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This is neither Rove’s nor the GOPe objective. Their objectives are to use big government to enlarge big business and corporations which was not Lincoln’s objectives. Rove loves Rubio . Why? Because Rubio is the gateway to amnesty in addition to a workforce for big business and corporations using Rubio’s Hispanic heritage. Well this is also… Read more »

PVG
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PVG

Nothing like the light of truth (and the internet) to purge the cancer!!

drphibes
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drphibes

Good post. I take a mild exception to the mention of Pat Buchanan, who I don’t always agree with, but who is an elder statesman on the Right, nonetheless. I’m not a Paulite, either, but there are some reasonable arguments to be made for reeling America back in a bit. I was always appreciative of the Buchanan book, A Republic, Not an Empire, for its caution about over-extension in the manner of ancient Rome. Not defending Pat, but often his legacy is broad-brushed by the cringe-worthy statements he has made. All this said, the Founders didn’t live in a world of ICBMs. I often don’t know where to “come down” on these positions, so I listen and learn from posts like this. Thanks.

PVG
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PVG

Well stated!

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warpmine

Pat’s problem has always been one that he reuses to walk anything he says back, he would rather double down and dig deeper.

drphibes
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drphibes

Yes, this can be a problem.

warpmine
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warpmine

As I’m sure you agree that he has written about some of the demographic problems for the descendents of the original European immigrants pertaining to the absolute disaster that Sen Kennedy foisted upon us all in 1965 which switched countries of which immigrants were to be favored to give the ultimate in diversity, a leftist’s dream, to people that for the most part really never wanted to become Americans but hyphenated Americans which has led to disaster to which leftists desired to partition us into groups in order to garner votes and power.

lanahi
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lanahi

That’s right, the original intent of the immigration service was to keep the demographics in this country the same, not to do some kind of social engineering for political reasons or to swamp us with one group or another. The diversity thing isn’t working out, the melting pot worked out.

lanahi
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lanahi

Truth is truth no matter where it comes from. You take the best ideas from whomever presents them and take it from there. You don’t owe them your loyalty for saying something right, just give them credit and support for it when they do. Ron Paul contributed good things to the dialogue despite what you might consider some of his more crazy ideas.

drphibes
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drphibes

Paul has great things to say about fiscal discipline. If only he were in charge of the Treasury.

John
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John

The TEA party is a coalition of Paelocons, Socialcons, Fiscal conservatives, libertarians, independents etc etc. if you can’t tolerate people like Buchanan or find a way to include them then the GOP will be out of power for a long time. And even people like Alex Jones has a lot of followers and fans, do you want to drive them out the tent as well? Rand Paul is probably the only person who is trying to unite all the different factions. Fact is a lot of us are done voting for fake conservatives like Bush, McCain, Romney and Dole.

sjmom
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sjmom

The Republican party has no conservatives but there are conservatives who vote Republican for lack of their own candidate. The other thing I would add to the list of conservative values is we for the most part are law abiding unlike those of other stripes.

lanahi
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lanahi

Conservatives can’t be herded much either…there’s more independence of thought. What Democrats do to whip their followers into shape couldn’t happen among conservatives. We do not follow a Romney just because the party says we should, nor do we naturally accept the party policies just so we win elections, but we support someone who speaks to our values as one of us.

There are many Republicans who are solid conservatives. Finding and identifying them is sometimes a problem.

StrangernFiction
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StrangernFiction

In the Republican Party, it seems that conservatism is more of a “to each his own definition”

Ah, moral relativism. How very progressive of them.

Ray
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Ray

It is interesting that our whole society has come to this. Liberals are not only reinterpreting the Constitution, but the Bible as well. There are groups called the emergent church that has done this.

SheerPolitics
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SheerPolitics

Once again Day by Day hits the mark: http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2013/02/07/

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