Gay couple demands new law to FORCE Christian business to prepare their taxes!!

A couple in Indiana is demanding that somebody somewhere pass a law to FORCE Christian businesses to do their damn taxes!!!

From ABC News:

A newlywed same-sex couple in Russiaville, Indiana, were turned away by a tax preparer due to her Christian religious beliefs.

Samantha Brazzel told ABC News that her wife, Bailey Brazzel, had employed Nancy Fivecoate, owner of Carter Tax Service, to file her taxes for the past four years.

“I had gone with Bailey last year and she introduced me as her girlfriend and nothing was said, so we didn’t anticipate any problems,” Brazzel explained.

This year was different.

More:

Once Fivecoate realized they were filing jointly this year as a married couple, she denied Brazzel service due to her Christian religious beliefs.

“We were both pretty stunned,” Brazzel said. “Nancy said we weren’t the first couple she’s turned away, because she believes marriage is between a man and a woman.”



I have no idea why a gay couple is demanding that Christians reluctantly do their taxes, but that’s what they want dammit!!

More:

Bailey and Samantha Brazzel said that they would really like to see new laws in place to protect same-sex couples.

“We shouldn’t be able to be turned away or kicked out of places just because of who we’re married too,” Samantha Brazzel said.

And…

“The LGBT want respect for their beliefs, which I give them,” Fivecoate said in her statement. “I did not say anything about their lifestyle.” “That is their choice. It is not my choice. Where is their respect for my beliefs?” she asked.

Well that’s stupid, especially when the lady was respectful and told them where else they could go to have their taxes done:

Fivecoate has since issued a statement to ABC affiliate WRTV in Indianapolis, saying, “I am a Christian and I believe marriage is between one man and one woman. I was very respectful to them. I told them where I thought she might be able to get her taxes prepared.”

Not good enough for the fascist LGBTQ mob.

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Rocket Matt
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Rocket Matt

This couple should be laughed out of court and forced to pay all the legal fees.

IntolerantDemocrap
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IntolerantDemocrap

FREAK SHOW!

Bacon-Munching Infidel
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“Bailey and Samantha Brazzel said that they would really like to see new laws in place to protect same-sex couples.”

From what do they need protection, exactly? It does not seem as if they were ever in any physical danger.

R Kendall
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R Kendall

A paid preparer must sign the return. I assume this preparer feels that to call these two women “married” is a lie. So she feels like she can’t truthfully sign it. They should find another paid preparer, or do the return themselves.

Otto Kjos
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Otto Kjos

Ok, the baker was right to not bake for a ceremony, but taxes? Come, on the tax preparer is way out of bounds here. It detracts from REAL religious objection issues. Let’s admit that our side screwed this one up. Prepare the taxes and move on.

SonofaGip
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SonofaGip

Not at all. I know a doctor who won’t take homosexual patients because their lifestyle in purposefully unhealthy. He also refuses to take smokers. Businesses have a right to implement a morals clause.

pinkflowers
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pinkflowers

I have fired clients just because I don’t like them. I don’t work with difficult people. And, I certainly don’t keep clients that I think will sue me. The tax preparer should just have told them that she couldn’t help them this year and not discussed the reason. You don’t actually have to respond to everyone.

azcatsclaw
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azcatsclaw

So use H&R Block! Not like there aren’t options.

Bennie Sprouse
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Bennie Sprouse

It’s rather EVIDENT that there are no capitalist, forward thinking gays – otherwise they would have seen the market for all kind of gay services – really, who wouldn’t want to be known as “The Gay CPA”! It’s not about living a “normal” life, it’s about FORCING YOU to live THEIR ABnormal life!

Soopermexican
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Soopermexican

LGBTQCPA!

jane dough
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jane dough

Find someone else to our taxes and quit looking for a payday. Earn your money with honest hard work not a snowflake attitude.

Lillie Belle ® 8/9/14
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Lillie Belle ® 8/9/14

This isn’t a lawsuit with hope of financial gain. It’s an activist act wanting Congressional action to force their agenda by law.

Liberty Heart Radio
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Liberty Heart Radio

Glory is the currency of their realm.

Jess
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Jess

Go to H&R Block; I am sure they will be happy to prepare and file your taxes. Walmart has tax preparer booths in the stores now too.

A Datum
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A Datum

Let me offer what might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the business should be required to do the taxes for these ladies. Let me explain. I am a Christian and support the right of people not to do anything to violate their faith. A gay couple forcing a bakery to make a wedding cake is directly requiring that bakery to participate in (and implicitly affirm) a sinful act. Preparing taxes has nothing to do with that. Consider that if a criminal approached an accountant and demanded that they prepare his taxes, the accountant would be within his rights (if he were a Christian) to say that doing so would cause him to affirm and support sinful acts. And it would be right for the accountant to refuse to do the criminal’s taxes. Presumably, these ladies are not criminals and are not asking the accountant to do anything illegal.… Read more »

you'rekiddingmeright
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you'rekiddingmeright

I would be willing to bet these two looked for a Christian to do their taxes do they could whine about it if they refused.

A Datum
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A Datum

Probably. But it doesn’t change the fact that it should be a non-issue for the accountants. They shouldn’t care (or need to know) the sexual orientation of their clients.

SonofaGip
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SonofaGip

“I am a Christian and support the right of people not to do anything to violate their faith.”

The rest of your post is how the government should violate the accountant’s faith and force her to service the homosexual couple. Make up your mind. You either support religious liberty or you don’t!

A Datum
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A Datum

No, that’s not what it is. What I said is that this is not and cannot be a violation of the accountant’s faith (unless you can tell me how filing taxes could be a violation of someone’s faith so long as the client is not a criminal). It’s not wise to cry wolf unless there is a reason to. In this case, there is no reason for the accountant not to file their taxes.

SonofaGip
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SonofaGip

Liberals say any religious liberty issue is “crying wolf.” They’ve made the same argument against the cake baker in CO. I’d let the accountant decide what religiously offends her or not and not the government. Unless the couple can meet the undue burden standard, a free society should side with the business owner.

Taurnil
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Taurnil

And remember Lot.

CECE
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CECE

SHE HAS TO SIGN THE RETURN FOR A MARRIED COUPLE, SINCE 2 WOMEN ARE NOT A LAWFUL IN THE EYES OF GOD COUPLE SHE WOULDN’T SIGN. WHAT DONT YOU COMPREHEND?

redinca
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redinca

Fivecoate should turn around and sue them for denying her religious right that are being violated!!!

mdbuilder
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mdbuilder

Pathetic mutts. They want to inflict their ugliness on everyone who doesn’t praise them.

Jack Boots
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Jack Boots

we can pass those laws just as soon as laws are passed to protect conservative content on twitter, google and facebook.

how about that?

ChowYunFatty
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ChowYunFatty

She should have said something like she was just taking on too much of a workload. And wouldn’t have time to do their taxes for them. By introducing your religious beliefs to this you’re setting yourself up for lawsuits.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

So she should lie as well as discriminate to cover up for the discriminating?

Sentinel
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Sentinel

“Discriminate”? Funny choice of words. Or not, depending on your spiritual condition.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Choosing against providing a service to someone is discrimination, whether you think it is justified or not.

pinkflowers
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pinkflowers

If I choose not to accept more work as a tax preparer because I’m working 14 hours a day now, is that also discrimination? Or, do you think that I am a slave and required to work because I offer services to the public?

whiskeyriver
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What discrimination? It’s my business, built with my hard work and money, I’ll serve anyone I choose to serve. I wouldn’t hire anyone who had tats or a bunch of metal stuck on their faces, I wouldn’t serve any “married” gay people either. My business, my rules. You don’t like it go somewhere else. That’s called your right to choose! Just like I have my right to choose.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

I don’t think you do have any such “right to choose”. Choose is just a synonym for discriminate.

whiskeyriver
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whiskeyriver

Ok, then you have no right to choose either. That’s only fair right?

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Correct, if I’m providing a service to the public, then I have no right to choose against anyone based on any recognized ground of discrimination. Otherwise, I can do what I like within the law. This stuff isn’t rocket science.

whiskeyriver
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whiskeyriver

Wrong. If I do not have the right to serve who I choose you do not have the right to come into my business. I have no rights, neither do you.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

*sigh* This really isn’t a contentious point, and it really isn’t rocket science. I’m just stating to you what the law is. You’re not allowed to discriminate (choose) against one group when providing a service to the public, but anyone can choose what business they go to. Neither you nor I is the arbiter of rights.

ChowYunFatty
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ChowYunFatty

To avoid a b.s lawsuit from the gay mafia because they’re too mentally weak to suck it up and go somewhere else? Yup. Seperation of church and state works both ways.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Another option would be to just treat people like human beings.

ChowYunFatty
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ChowYunFatty

Me personally, I’ll take your money as long as your not a pedo, animal abuser, or anti-2A. Some people have a stricter criteria. Part of being human is learning that life is full of disappointments, and that some people won’t like you whether there’s a valid reason or not. Don’t make time for those people, just move on. But when you use anti-discrimination laws as a weapon against a single merchant rather than going somewhere else, you’re as big a dick as they are. Endorse merchants who have the same values as you. Problem solved.

pinkflowers
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pinkflowers

She shouldn’t lie but she can just say that she won’t be able to help them this year. You don’t actually have to give a reason for your actions. You don’t have an obligation like that. Some people want to explain but it’s liberating when you realize that you don’t have to participate in that. Your obligation is to yourself.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

I don’t think new laws are needed. The existing law addresses this situation. It’s long-established that if you provide a service to the public, you have to take the public as they come. You can’t make black people sit at the back, and you can’t refuse to do gay people’s taxes.

Painfultruth
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Painfultruth

Those laws are based upon refusing individuals due to their race, creed or color, not their behavior.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

So, recognized grounds of discrimination then, like gender and sexual orientation.

Painfultruth
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Painfultruth

Orientation and behavior are two different things.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

are they completely unrelated?

Painfultruth
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Painfultruth

No, but so are all derangements (murderers, rapists, child molesters, arson etc) it’s not problematic unless acted upon.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

I can see the problem if the examples you give are acted upon. But there is no logical flow from those things to saying some people should never have the same kind of relationship as everybody else can: a consensual intimate relationship with an unrelated adult with whom there is mutual attraction.

You haven’t made an argument, and your use of ‘derangement’ is misplaces and presumably meant to be pejorative.

Painfultruth
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Painfultruth

Not at all, it correctly identifies the mental state of those individuals claiming that orientation.

As to it simply being a harmless relationship between two consenting adults, it is biblically forbidden and many practicing Christians acknowledge that fact.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

And many Christians (the ones that comply with biblical principles like loving thy neighbor, equality, and not judging others) do not have a problem with their fellow human beings in same-sex relationships.

Painfultruth
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Painfultruth

Many alleged Christians defy the lord and do so at their own peril.

Some prefer not to suffer the lords wrath.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

You’re right, many alleged Christians do defy the principles of Christianity in order to use it to bolster their personal prejudices against their fellow people.

Painfultruth
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Painfultruth

Nice try, loving thy neighbor and aiding or abetting their immoral actions are two completely different things. The Bible is absolutely clear on the subject of sexual sin.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Many people Christian or otherwise disagree with you. There is a reason that your views are at odds with the laws of western society and the culmination of centuries of judicial thought. That reason isn’t some conspiracy theory, it’s simply that you are in the wrong.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Do you find the Bible unclear on its overarching principles of loving thy neighbor, equality and not judging others?

Painfultruth
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Painfultruth

Judge others by the same measure you wish to be judged, love thy neighbor by helping them away from sin. Turning the other cheek doesn’t mean look the other way!

Attempting to rationalize immoral behavior does not make it any more acceptable to the righteous.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

“The devil may cite scripture for his purpose” – William Shakespeare

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Do you find the Bible unclear on its overarching principles of loving thy neighbor, equality and not judging others?

pybop
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pybop

I despise the malicious , divisive, and agenda driven tactics of the LBGT queers…but the religious beliefs of the accountant are irrelevant. She is discriminating. She is wrong. I’m surprised that any constitutional conservative would defend the accountant.
It’s no different than if she had said, “I don’t serve Jews.”

RWrad
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RWrad

She’s not discriminating because of race, she’s refusing to offer her services because their behavior goes against her religious beliefs. There is a huge difference. And just like the Christian baker, she is being forced by the state to “care”. We will be made to obey the dictates of the LGBTQ degenerates. Nope!

InRussetShadows
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InRussetShadows

You have bought into the homosexuality as identity myth. Also to require anyone to participate in recognition of homosexual marriage IS the LBGTQ agenda.

Liberty Heart Radio
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Liberty Heart Radio

Jewish women don’t lick girl pussy, and don’t force others to agree with their beliefs.

Lesbians do indeed lick pussy and insist that others celebrate their pussy licking preference.

Same thing only in an alternate universe.

Marino2duper
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Marino2duper

I can see why a Christian business won’t do cakes and stuff like that but this is just silly. This isn’t good for business and I think a dumb move but the gaystapo is as usual overboard.

mathewsjw
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mathewsjw

Just the LGBT Agenda demanding Indiana pass laws similar to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission to put LGBT Rights Above First Amendment Religious Freedom Rights. when the SCotUS goes half ass defending the First Amendment like the Colorado Baker (or slavery) it comes back to bite all Americans in the ass.

Jess
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Jess

Go to H&R Block; I am sure they will be happy to prepare and file your taxes. Walmart has tax preparer booths in the stores now too.

Gonnado Whatcha
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Gonnado Whatcha

Meat curtain munching couple refuse to patronize Muslim Accountants.
There… fixed it.
Why do homosexuals discriminate against islam?

Charli
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Their are MANY LGBTQ CPAs around, even in Indiana, so this is about forcing others to accept something that is against their beliefs, which is unconstitutional. When LGBTQs try to force their belief systems on others, they are supported in courts; however, when women like Ms. Fivecoate refrain from doing something because it is against HER belief system, she is damaged for it, which is unconstitutional.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Are you seriously trying to say that homosexuality is a belief system? What other “belief systems” have you got for us? Heterosexuality? Left-handedness? blue-eyedness?
The belief system that is being forced here, is being forced upon this married couple.

Dayenu
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Dayenu

LGBT movement most certainly does have a belief system. You’re not allowed to contradict it.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Nope. You’re thinking of principles like equality and liberty. These are principles of free societies and of Christianity and are in no way specific to LGBT people. You need to treat LGBT people (and everyone else) with equality and not impinge on their liberty without justifiable reasons.

Dayenu
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Dayenu

Here’s the LGBT belief system: 1) Sexual orientation is absolutely inborn. 2) Sexual orientation can never, ever be changed. 3) Anyone claiming to have changers sexual orientation is lying to you, or to themselves, and must be bullied 4) Because we insist it can never be changed, we must make it against the law to try to change it. 5) The sex you’re born as, however, is fluid. 6) Men can become women, women can become men. 7) A man who becomes a woman is just as much a woman as your mother ever was. 8) a woman who becomes a man is just as much a man as your father ever was. 9) There is absolutely nothing essential to having a mother or having a father. A person of the same sex can easily fulfill the roles that traditionally and biologically fell to the parent of the other sex.… Read more »

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Thanks for this. What is your source for this information?

Dayenu
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Dayenu

Mostly my observation, and a little deduction for what the most politically expedient positions are.

For example, having sexual orientation be inflexible is vital if you want to say you’re just like a race. Everyone knows blacks can’t change the color of their skin, nor does anyone choose what race they were born. If sexual orientation was widely considered a chosen life style, like say cigarettes or tattoos, then it fails as a civil rights unit.

Similarly, if it was possible to change sexual orientation via therapy, that would lead into a similar dilemma. So such therapy must be discredited, true or false.

If you see it as a political movement, these conclusions make perfect sense.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

When did you choose your sexual orientation?

Dayenu
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Dayenu

Before I answer, can I ask why you ignored everything in my post to resort to such a predictable question? And if you ignored everything in my previous post, why should I respond to yours?

Snufkin
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Snufkin

I asked my question on the fulcrum of your comment.

Dayenu
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Dayenu

I don’t see it. But regardless… I decided to be heterosexual rather than the bisexual transvestite I had been living in. I had a yearning to be a woman for — who know why. Once I did, I found it was easy to get attention from men, when I went to clubs that catered to that. I was lonely enough, and being flattered: “Oh, you’re so beautiful” was arousing enough, even if I never thought of men in that way before. I could have said no, of course, but when one was available and the other seemed unaccessible, I went for some time with what was available. But then as I was mediating between the two, a good friend of mine advised me: “If you want to end up with a woman, you probably don’t want to be dating boys. Women will not be comfortable with a man who has… Read more »

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Dayum! I’m impressed. Very good.

RWrad
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RWrad

Sorry cupcake, but it’s true, most homosexuality is a learned behavior and a chosen lifestyle.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

If you think homosexual attraction is something you could learn or choose, you’re definitely not a straight person.

RWrad
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RWrad

I’m definitely not a sick twisted fudge packing degenerate.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Is homosexual attraction a choice that is open to you or not?

RWrad
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RWrad

Be gone troll………Blocked!

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Not a choice then.

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Yes, they don’t like it when I tell them that I was born an alcoholic, but nobody forced me to suck on the bottle. I think that it’s the word “suck” that gets them.

Charli
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Charli

Oh get off your self-righteous bandstand and learn how to comprehend what you read! Many LGBTQs believe they are “more equal” than everyone else, thanks to misguided people like you who believe that tripe. When one group is given priority over another as a protected group, nobody is free.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Or maybe they just want equality, like being able to go to a business without being turned away, or being able to marry their partner without being told they can’t because of someone else’s personal religious beliefs, or not being beaten to death for merely existing, or not being exterminated en masse in gas chambers.

You’re fighting the bad fight Charli. You’re one of the bad guys.

Solely2Post
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Solely2Post

That they demand laws be passed to compel someone to work in favor of their “equality” while against their target’s rights is tyranny, any way you slice it.

CaptBill56
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CaptBill56

That’s some HOT ‘tang! Dang….

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Wang dang?

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Wang dang?

3ButterfIy.Kisses
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3ButterfIy.Kisses

These women are not nice nor are they kind. I am really sick of people claiming they are victims, when in actuality, they are exploiting their gayness/victim hood for profit and gains. There are so many accountants to choose from and no one should ever be “forced” to do something for anyone. This country is becoming overrun with victims. Helpless, hapless victims! Why would anyone want to appear weak and helpless? Grow the heck up and stop all the whining!

ssohara
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ssohara

Are we slaves? Because slaves are forced to work. Free people are not forced to work. This is ridiculous. And I personally wouldn’t care – I would do the taxes, but I would never force someone. I have been discriminated against a few times because I am not white and I am a woman. BFD. I have moved on and found people happy to do business with me. I think this country is too darn lawsuit crazy.

KMA GOP
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KMA GOP

Wrong title for this article. It should read:
“Grotesque Couple Seeking Fame/Attention Lawsuit Frivolously Persecuting Christians”

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

I can understand a baker not wanting to participate in a gay wedding, but this seems to be a bit of a stretch. What about loving your enemies? What about rendering unto Caesar? It is the law in Indiana. God is pretty specific about practicing homosexuality, but I don’t recall anything about prohibiting doing business with them. I realize that the Gaystapo may be targeting this business, but I’m not so sure if everyone involved is not somewhat at fault here.

Charli
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Charli

Still, Ms. Fivecoate should be able to work for, or NOT work for, whomever she wishes. The Gaystapo (love that!!) has endless other choices and can complain about Fivecoate on Yelp, which will no doubt repel some people from hiring her….but this is ridiculous.

Hidyho
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I’m thinking she would feel supportive of the sin were she to acknowledge a gay marriage by filing and signing. And I believe God is not OK w/ supporting sin. In fact, there’s scripture regarding speaking out against the sin, and redirecting the sinner to more Christ-like behavior. (Tho I couldn’t point out the verse, sorry)

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Everyone sins. Jesus hung out with Mary Magdalene.

Hidyho
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Hidyho

And she was reformed by Him! I’m not saying we’re not ALL sinners, I’m saying it’s obligation of a Christian to affirm an obviously un-Christian act, and offer redirection.

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Instead of refusing the business, it could be an opportunity to spread the gospel. When people ask me for money on the street, I tell them that I’m a former alcoholic and offer to take them to a meeting. Nothing gets rid of them faster.

Hidyho
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Hidyho

That’s a great idea. When I see people holding the cardboard signs asking for donations, (especially if I’m out around lunchtime) I just go thru a nearby drivethru; if I’m not short on funds at the time.. buy a burger and take it to them. I refuse to give money to support booze and drug habits.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

It’s not very charitable to “get rid” of people in need.

trytothink
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trytothink

Snuf, this is a nice place. Try not to troll it up.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

it’s not nice to “get rid” of people in need, and it’s not trolling to call it out.

trytothink
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trytothink

Dude, you’ve replied to practically every comment in this thread. You’re obviously amped up on something and trying to call Doc out as not being nice because he doesn’t enable panhandlers is some really weak trolling.

If you think it’s not nice to refuse helping people in need, there are plenty of people out there for you to go help right now. Instead, you’re here – probably on your expensive computer – trolling.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

You don’t know whether or not I help people in need. I certainly don’t make proclamations about getting rid of them.

Perhaps all the people who spend their energy marginalizing their fellow human beings who happen to be gay could spend that energy better trying to help others… loving thy neighbor, that sort of thing.

Lillie Belle ® 8/9/14
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Lillie Belle ® 8/9/14

Doc DID offer help, in the form of an offer to take them where they would get that help. And, he said THEY REFUSE his offer. You are spinning.

trytothink
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trytothink

You’re here wasting time. You obviously aren’t helping anyone in need when you’re trolling internet forums. You obviously feel that trolling internet forums is more important at some point than helping others in need. Bye, troll.

Paladin
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Paladin

Yes, and Jesus called our every single one of them for their individual sins telling them what they were doing was wrong and that they should cease in whatever sin it was. That’s why He had so many enemies and was eventually crucified. For some reason leaders in power don’t like their authority challenged and people don’t like being told they’re doing things wrong.

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

I’m not going to point out everyone’s sin.

Paladin
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Paladin

Probably a wise thing considering you’re not God incarnate and know everything and that what you are saying is 100% correct without any chance of error. Also knowing you’re not perfect yourself makes a person take pause.

Charli
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Charli

Except that we are all sinners, including Fivecoate…just to play devil’s advocate
;-D LOL. I am not sure whatever happened to businesses have a right to refuse service to anyone they wish…she wants to be out some pay for services, that’s her business.

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

This has all come out of the civil rights movement, which the left is twisting to their benefit.

Charli
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Charli

The radicals on the left have gone insane, Doc. There needs to be a special island for them where they find their safe space and bytch to one another to feel better, cuz the rest of us have work to do and lives to lead.

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

True.

Charli
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Charli

Still, Ms. Fivecoate should be able to work for, or NOT work for, whomever she wishes. The Gaystapo (love that!!) has endless other choices and can complain about Fivecoate on Yelp, which will no doubt repel some people from hiring her….but this is ridiculous.

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Yes, the business is obviously being targeted.

Charli
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Charli

Agreed, and I am sick of it….lucky for these clowns the majority of Americans are not pounding down their doors demanding services that do not fit their own beliefs….they think they are more “equal” than everyone else.

trytothink
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trytothink

That was my first take as well. Baking wedding cakes is an art and I can see how you wouldn’t want to make a piece of art celebrating a wedding that you felt was a sin.

But doing taxes is just rote data entry and you’re not really celebrating anything. Although ultimately I think that it would be good if businesses had a more libertarian “my business, my rules” legal environment in this country – not doing a gay couple’s taxes is hardly the hill that I’d choose to die on.

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Agreed. And it’s pretty mild persecution compared to China or Africa.

RWrad
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RWrad

We are the ones who always have to do the bending Doc. Our beliefs are never held up as being equal to their beliefs. We are being forced to accept what we believe is perverted behavior, the state is in effect taking sides using the Bill of Rights as their weapon against us. (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof), They are perfectly fine with the first part of that sentence, but never, ever do you see liberals, statists, LGBTQXYZLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZHMLOPABCEFCDQURALMINTUSBBBAAACUNDLQPRSRNIL, did I miss any? even mention the second part. I’m getting damned tired of always being forced to care, or forced to accept, I don’t care what those degenerates do to themselves, just let me live my life and stay clear of me and my family. If I was the tax preparer I might just do their taxes for them, but… Read more »

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stephmcg✓Fᵉᵈᵉʳᵃˡ ᶦˢᵗ

I have no patience for gay extremists any more….maybe the Muslim extremists were right in tossing them from buildings…………sorry but has the gay Nazis ever heard of the word “backlash”?

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Sounds as if you are advocating summary executions of your fellow human beings for being gay. And that’s just what the Nazis did.

stephmcg✓Fᵉᵈᵉʳᵃˡ ᶦˢᵗ
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stephmcg✓Fᵉᵈᵉʳᵃˡ ᶦˢᵗ

No…..I am just irritated with their in your face agenda and their promoting their sick lifestyle on young school children.

I think you have it the other way around…the gay extremists would have no problem in taking out people who disagree with their lifestyle.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

One’s sexual orientation isn’t a lifestyle, sick or otherwise, it is a facet of what constitutes us as human beings.

Charli
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Charli

Let’s hope the demonrats’ recurrence of demanding reparations for slavery causes a backlash…to the best of my knowledge, there are NO slaves alive from the civil war, but if their are, I could kick in a buck (even though I, and none of my ancestors to the best of my knowledge, have never been a slave holder!)

Renny
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Renny

Christianphobics!

john
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john

They love late term unrestricted, endless abortions because they despise faith and family lifestyle and want all to become gays and lesbians, engage in immoral, disgusting acts. And the Dem leaders become their hero! Pro gays and pro abortions are same thing!

Snufkin
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Snufkin

If, for you, it is possible for a straight person to become a gay person, then I’m afraid you’re not straight. Lol.

NewWest 123
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NewWest 123

FO . Law suit hunting!

terrymengle
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terrymengle

They want us to acknowledge their lifestyle and they want to be able to CONTROL us. Nonsense!!!

PacksA9
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PacksA9

After the first instance of a restaurant refusing to serve a Trump admin official or MAGA hat-wearing person, the charade about having to serve some LGBTQWERTY is over.

Dayenu
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Dayenu

That’s a particularly good point.

Voice Of Reason
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Voice Of Reason

You know you’re not really a victim when you have to invent new ways to be a victim. If they were real victims they wouldn’t have to explain it to everyone. Victimization will never go away when half the country is proud to be “victimized”

NewWest 123
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NewWest 123

They target them. For political gain and big bucks. They could care less about ruining someone’s life and livelihoods. Turbo tax is available as well Aston’s of other tax preparers. Just like cake bakers.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Refusing service is an age-old way to victimize people.

mdbuilder
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mdbuilder

I demand a new law forcing Gays conform to societal norms.

Drain the Swamp
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Drain the Swamp

They are as ugly as sin too…they have all the qualifications to be a liberal victim!

warrenzoell
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warrenzoell

Cmon Disqus get you act together!

TJK ✓
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TJK ✓

In your face! Bite me, multiple letter whatevers. A black robe made your union – marriage. The majority voted against calling your social contract a marriage. I am getting fed up with the qwertyzzzzz. You take ideas and words and bastardized them.

OKJames
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OKJames

Really, you want to irritate the person that is going to do your taxes? No refund for you.

KatherineBranwen
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KatherineBranwen

The Gaystapo strikes again. This isn’t about ‘tolerance’ this is about forced conformity to a Leftist agenda.

If the tax preparer were a Muslim, you wouldn’t be hearing a word about it..

Snufkin
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Snufkin

… because a Muslim tax preparer would probably just do their job.

TJK  ✓
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TJK ✓

Not a chance.

trytothink
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trytothink

Just like a Muslim baker would bake the cake, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

… or maybe not?

Snufkin
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Snufkin

I’m sure a Muslim baker would likely bake a cake.

trytothink
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trytothink

“I’m sure a Muslim baker would likely bake a cake”

…. said the guy who didn’t bother to watch the video of Muslim bakers refusing to bake gay wedding cakes.

Did you not know about this video? It’s been circulating virally for years.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

I shouldn’t need to look to extrinsic material because you cannot be bothered to make your comment in full. Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

Adam
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Adam

Someone needs to learn what Anecdotal is. If it is on video it isn’t anecdotal. Muslim bakers have indeed refused service. And the same Colorado commission that wants to persecute Christian bakers did nothing about it.

trytothink
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trytothink

Lots of intellectual dishonesty in just two short sentences. Let’s unpack some.
1. Not looking at evidence offered is intellectually dishonest and cowardly.
2. The video was hidden camera work going to a bunch of Muslim bakeries. Hardly anecdotal.
3. Your original claim that “I’m sure a Muslim baker would likely bake a cake.” was based on what, exactly? Statistical evidence of some sort? Of course not.
4. Journalism like this that uncovers behavior in society rarely approaches statistical rigor – but we use it all the time to at least provide examples when there is a lack of actual statistical evidence.

The reality is that you’re terrified of the cognitive dissonance that you would have to endure if you came to the realization that your erstwhile political allies, the Muslims, are vehemently opposed to your pro-homosexual political philosophy.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

You can make your point in full with reference to your source. But you didn’t do that. It’s absurd for you to expect people to go to extrinsic material on a comment page like this. For example, how about I tell you to go and read the entire body of philosophy, theology and jurisprudence that demonstrates that we should not discriminate against our fellow human beings. Get reading, and let me know when you’re done.

trytothink
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trytothink

Because spending the rest of one’s life reading without a specific purpose is just like watching a short video that directly disproves your argument.

Clearly, you think your simpleton tactics are furthering some end. How that end differs from trolling or just being generally intellectually dishonest, I don’t know and don’t care. Goodbye.

TJK  ✓
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TJK ✓

Read about Muslim taxi drivers refusing to transport alcohol and dogs.

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Alcohol and dogs are not recognized grounds for discrimination. Although refusing to take a guide dog for a blind person would discriminate against that person.

TJK  ✓
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TJK ✓

Anything I carry on my person, that is legal, you are discriminating against me!

Snufkin
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Snufkin

Wut?

TJK  ✓
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TJK ✓

Exactly.

Lillie Belle ® 8/9/14
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Lillie Belle ® 8/9/14

I don’t think so.

KatherineBranwen
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KatherineBranwen

Before or after they threw them off rooftops, or in this case, simply stoned
them to death!

Nice try, dipstick. You’re connection to reality is nonexistent.

tjohns16
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tjohns16

Indiana has a legislature packed with Republicans in the state House and Senate and a Republican governor. That being said they act very weak in comparison to the legislatures in Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, South Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana and a few others. These homosexuals may end up getting what they want because Indiana Republican politicians are easily rattled. They are afraid to go after the murderous abortion industry and tip toe around the edges. They have a dismemberment bill that will easily pass but they should be doing a lot more. Leadership matters and if you are serious about confronting the murderous abortion industry and Homosexual activists you better have strong leaders. Indiana does not. Also looks like Oklahoma legislature is going the same route. Making excuses for not aggressively going after the abortion industry by claiming they’ll lose in Court. In other words, doing the Democrats work for them.… Read more »

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