ICE officers write angry letter to Trump!

ICE officers are apparently very unhappy that Trump has not kept his promises about the border regarding catch and release.

Because of the surge, they say catch and release has gone into overdrive and they are being forced to help with it because the Border Patrol don’t want to do it.

Here’s more:

WASHINGTON TIMES – ICE officers who endorsed President Trump in 2016 now say he has failed to follow through on his get-tough promises, saying catch-and-release of immigrants living illegally in the U.S. is not only still happening, but has gone into “overdrive.”

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers say they’re being roped into such mundane tasks as opening the doors on vans to release immigrants already caught by Border Patrol agents. That’s dragging the officers from their usual duties of nabbing fugitives, or scouring local prisons and jails for immigrant criminals who lived illegally in the U.S. ready to be deported.

The shell game is all the more “ridiculous,” the officers said, because Border Patrol agents could fill out paperwork and open the doors themselves, but the agency’s leaders don’t want to be part of catch-and-release.

“Hundreds of man hours are wasted each day at a time of crisis on the border,” the leaders of the National ICE Council, the union that represents ICE officers, said in a letter sent directly to Mr. Trump on Monday.

The letter was sent just hours before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee voted to approve Mr. Trump’s pick, Ronald D. Vitiello, to be the new director of ICE.

Committee Chairman Ron Johnson waved a copy of the ICE Council’s letter during the vote and called the accusations “troubling.”

“We’re going to get to the bottom of this,” he told reporters afterward.

Who do they blame?

The ICE officers blamed both Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and Mr. Vitiello, a former Border Patrol agent who’s been serving since last June as acting director at ICE.

With Vitiello in the Senate now, this could gum up his nomination process.

ICE says they told Trump about the problem in January…

In the letter, the ICE Council said its president, Chris Crane, personally told Mr. Trump about the situation in a January meeting, and the council was disappointed nothing has been done.

“You frequently speak publicly of the great public safety work ICE is doing under your leadership. To be direct Mr. President — the rhetoric doesn’t match reality and we hope that this letter shows you the complete and total nonsense that is really taking place under the Trump Administration on the southern border,” the ICE officers said.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

Because there are so many migrants crossing the border right now, they don’t have enough space to keep them all. So they release some of these illegals hoping that they will come back for their court appearances on their own.

Though Congress needs to fix the big mess at the border, ICE says the Border Patrol has the power to stop forcing them to participate in this mundane job of catch and release so they can get back their usual jobs.

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147 thoughts on “ICE officers write angry letter to Trump!

  1. Trump says one thing and does another. The military still continues Obama’s social engineering policies as well,

  2. This spat between ICE and BP has been goi g on for years. Bush should never have had another agency. It should have been kept as one. Here at the border, if the port of entry arrest someone with a smaller amount of drugs, ICE passes. They do t want to do the “small” stuff.
    It’s the Union heads scrapping over who gets the most money and who donates to who…So, to ICE, quit your whining.
    To ICE, maybe you should take your butts down to the border and help change diapers and babysit.

  3. Relax ICE. The magical wall will solve all our problems. It’s going to be enchanted with a Locator spell that will find all illegals and teleport them back to their country of origin. This is what we were promised maga.

  4. If all reports are truthful, Trump is doing everything he humanly can do within the parameters of the presidency, but he cannot do it all. Right now, he is alone in WADC with NO support, other than flowery speeches from alleged conservatives.

    ICE and CBP need to rally together publicly, put together a team of ICE & CBP staff that would travel from city to city throughout the U.S., addressing this issue directly with the people and rallying us all to their cause. They also need to go on YouTube and other networking sites to get this out into the open.

    ICE and CBP needs to understand that the House and Senate, who each have agendas of their own that do not include protecting this nation, will never do their jobs unless these men and women gather together a team to make Americans aware of the problems, complete with real video that the MSM refuse to air. Otherwise, they will get nowhere. IF they do what I am suggesting, intelligently using social media the same way the evil progressives are great at doing, then the people will support them and hold their elected’s feet to the fire; demonrats will have no choice but to vote for their constituents demands. DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES!

    1. That’s not going to happen. Most of their donations go to the Loons. This all coming from the Union heads. Not the guys working the field. They aren’t allowed to speak without permission. This complaint is nothing more than a political scam….

  5. Detain them, ID them, fly the bad ones out over the ocean and drop them. That should cut it down a little.

  6. I’d rather see tent cities on the border than allow catch & release.

    But this seems more like a complaint over jobs than a statement about enforcement. I can understand BP agents not wanting to be the ones doing the “releasing” when it’s an ICE policy to release them.

  7. Breaking: Hollywood libtards (but I repeat myself) are being implicated in a scandal, bribing coaches to get their kids into colleges.

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  8. This sounds like a personal problem between Border Patrol and ICE and of course, Congress.

    The democrat congress wants to cut down the number of beds available, judges are blocking the administration from instantly deporting illegals and ACLU is trying to sue the administration over them forcing illegals in Mexico to stay there until their case can be heard.

    The fact that it’s the union making this complaint makes me suspect this is all another democrat smokescreen to attack Trump to make it sound like he isn’t fulfilling his promises when the real problem is with Congress.

  9. We ACTUALLY HAD an Attorney General that was getting tough on illegal immigration, even to the point that he would make public the separations of families to hopefully deter others from entering illegally, but Trump and his trumpsters attacked him continuously because he recused himself from the Russia investigation.

    As predicted Washington has returned to the status quo where nothing changes, and it appears that after Sessions was fired, it got even worse.

    Maybe Ronald Vitiello can stop the ‘catch and release’ abuse, but it’ll be quite hard to do given that Trump’s last CR he signed REDUCED the number of holding facilities and beds within same. Trump even spoke out on this in February after ICE acting Deputy Director Matt Albence said “We will be immediately forced to release convicted criminals in our custody.”

  10. What can he do without the do nothing Congress (R and D) and every Lib Court (mostly) in the land stopping everything he does? Has Pelosi or Schumer ever been to the border? HA
    THEN he Declares an Emergency and his own party goes after him… frustrating

  11. Figures…..I knew Trump was all talk and no action on this topic. Trump lied to win the primary. He knew this issue was the one that would put him over the top. Everyone knew Nielson was the wrong person and I knew Trump was NOT serious when he did not appoint someone like Kobach to deal with this matter.

  12. The border crisis is so discouraging to me. I don’t know how Border Patrol and ICE agents can even stand to go to work each day with both hands tied behind their backs. America is literally committing suicide before our very eyes, and we conservatives are constantly thwarted in our efforts to stop it. This shouldn’t even be a left vs. right or Democrat vs. Republican issue. Why can’t we all agree as AMERICANS that protecting our borders is fundamental to our very existence as a nation?

  13. 750 just over the weekend just walked in. The news stories go to on to say that the incarceration doesn’t deter them at all as they can rest up, get fed 3 squares, and know with certainty they will be released in a few weeks. Our political hacks on both sides don’t care. Just waiting to see what happens as the weather gets warmer, the Venezuelans by the millions due to the unrest there decide along with the eight South American countries like the Gutamalans, Hondurans, as well as the Mexicans decide it’s time for a stroll.

      1. @dr-strangelove
        California is losing a million taxpayers fleeing the state per year. And it’s filling up again with illegals. Oh, on that bright and cheery note, I am actually going to be one of those millions leaving the cess pool. I finally found a place in Idaho and am moving this spring!!!! Yeah!!! Yippie!!!! Happy dance!!!! 😀

        1. Maybe if Mexicali finally occurs, we can just build a wall around California. That will solve 2 problems.

  14. If he promised and didn’t follow through then they should be angry. And he should be held accountable. Broken promises should be shoved in the face of every politician all the time.

    Maybe then they wouldn’t lie quite so much.

    ICE should be Trump’s, Nielsen’s and Vitiello’s natural allies – how stupid is it to pi$$ them off?

      1. Good Morning @proud-nana , how ya doing this morning? The temperature is up here in Wisconsin and the sun is shining. So some things are right in my world.

  15. Sounds like a log is kept of each release and the Border Patrol doesn’t want to sign for them so as to keep their release numbers down.

    1. Sort of.

      Once the process is begun BP can’t let a detainee go. They have to be processed in and see an immigration officer. What ICE is asking for is a law change so the BP can cite and release much like a traffic ticket. So, if Jose has a Mexican ID, he can be cited, given a court date, and cut loose till then. 99.99999% never show for court. Why would they?

      No ID, then you go into the system until you can be identified, THEN they’ll let them go assuming it’s their first time.

      The issue is that there’s not nearly enough detention space to house all these no-ID-having illegals, much less the ones with ID, much much less all the “refugees”.

          1. Right. The biggest influx of immigrants is from Central America, which is why they are working on the new policy to keep them in Mexico.

            1. @therightscoop As it should be. Anywhere else, refugees are required to stop at the first safe country.

              1. @dr-strangelove

                Yeah we all saw them tear down the border fence coming out of guatemala last year. And Mexico let them do it. Trump is right that they need to take some responsibility there.

                1. @therightscoop Yeah, Mexican police don’t shy away from brutality, they could easily have stopped them.

                2. @texaschris If Tromp put snipers on the border and started shooting drug mules and coyotes I wouldn’t complain.

                3. As unethical, inhumane, and cruel as that would be, I can see no violation of international law if he did so. A border is a sovereign demarcation. Crossing a border in contravention of law is a violent act. It should be met with violence, or the threat of, at least.

                  Personally, I favor a wall and a troop presence. Maybe limit to one or two killings a week. 😉

                4. The cartels shoot back. A nice little border clash could seal it tighter than a gnat’s patoot. Where’s Blackjack Pershing when we need him?

                5. We just had a Texan shot from across the border, stray round from a cartel/federales gunfight.


                6. JMO, but the Mexican police are by and large tied up with the drug cartel and the drug cartel wants access to cross.

        1. I think they are doing that before they get into the US, but if they make it across the border otherwise, we’re not allowed to throw them back out. The ACLU is suing anyway, of course. 😡

        1. @Scope Mexicans can be sent back but not Central/ South Americans. It’s the current law.

          1. I agree with a comment you made elsewhere that asylum seekers are required to stop in the first country they hit after fleeing, and must apply for US asylum from there which is Mexico. Isn’t that the current law? No doubt the Mexican Gov. doesn’t want the expense and problems that go along with hundreds of thousands of Central/South American invasions, but if I am not mistaken, applying for asylum in the first country you arrive in is also international law, so Mexico would have no choice but to keep them.

              1. Yes, I remember reading that Mexico also promised them jobs and all kinds of benes, but apparently the leader of at least one group running the flooding of America from South/Central America told them it was just a trap, and to not stop until they get into the US.

                1. Since the majority of the invaders are paying for escorts from their home countries to the US border, the paid escorts would be in the unemployment line if they were validly fleeing violence or persecution and took jobs in Mehico and decided to stay there. 🙂

    1. Keep a fleet of buses at the border and load em up as they come across and drive them back. Sort of a musical illegal game. Music suggestions please.

      1. @kenosha Buses? How about trebuchet? Catapults? Ringling Brothers might have some human cannonball launchers left over.

        1. Anything that would send them back where they came from. Buses maybe for the kiddies and old folks. But I would love to see a bunch of those druggies and coyotes go splat.

  16. “Because there are so many migrants crossing the border right now, they don’t have enough space to keep them all. So they release some of these illegals hoping that they will come back for their court appearances on their own.”

    That was one of my first thoughts after reading the above article. Didn’t the Dems cap the number of those allowed to be detained. Somewhere I read they already have something like 50,000 in detention which is a higher number than allowed in the bill. Around 2,000 of those detained are quarantined because they have communicable diseases.

    Sounds like the fight between ICE and Border Patrol is who is driving the illegals around the country and opening the van doors to release them. If I am not mistaken, Border Patrol agents work only at the borders, but ICE works throughout the nation. Someone can correct me if I am wrong on that.

    1. Yes, ICE enforces immigration laws within US borders… BP agents are at the border and at certain checkpoints throughout the country.

      1. Thank you for the info Ciceroni. To me that would make ICE’s gripes moot if that is the case. That is if the author of the article linked to above is portraying the ICE position accurately.

  17. We can thank the NT Bush 43 for this catch and release policy… THIS IS INSANE!! Just wait until the warm weather starts; you’re going to see border rushes as you’ve seen in third world countries.

    This is about overwhelming the system and the Left and checkered-pant Republicans, including Mike Lee and Ted Cruz who are funded by the Koch Brothers, will say “there’s nothing we can do.”

    Trump better order at least 10,000+ troops on the border and build tents down there… it’s going to get nasty once the news gets out… “Hey, they’re catching and releasing you…” “You don’t have to show up in court… just wait until they grant amnesty.” SICK SICK SICK

    Btw, why doesn’t President Trump label drug and human trafficking cartels, TERRORIST organizations?

    1. @ciceroni-excogitatoris
      Regardless of who put the policy in place, hasn’t “our” side, with both houses, neglected to pass legislation that would nullify anything.

      Republicans do not want this fixed, but will definitely run on it again for re-election…. like deporting, funding a wall, defunding Sanctuary Cities, planned parenthood, etc, etc

      1. It’s the checkered-pant Republicans, along with the Left, who FAILED. Trump can only do so much, Sam. The best thing he could do right now is call for more military personnel on the border assisting Border Patrol.

    2. From what I remember reading, DHS wanted room and funding for around 50,000, which is the number of those currently detained. The Dems wanted the number slashed drastically. The feckless R’s agreed to meet them at about 43,000 if I’m remembering right.

      I thought Trump was building tent cities for detainees. I also thought many of the illegals were going to have to wait in Mexico, and Trump wanted to send a bunch of them currently in detention back across the border into Mexico. Of course the 9th circuit is involved so I don’t know where we are with those initiatives.

      1. Yes, the Koch Brothers have the R’s in Congress by the b***s; including Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, the so-called conservatives.

        1. You very well may be correct, but it would surprise me if the Koch Bros donated anything significant to Cruz. The Koch Bros supported gay marriage. After the SC gay marriage decision Cruz said it was time for states to take back their own power, and that they should ignore the SC decision. Cruz has also long been against illegal invasion, while the Koch Bros support cheap illegal labor. I remember that the Koch Bros interviewed some 2016 presidential candidates and Cruz was rejected as someone they would support.

            1. That sounds like something Illhan Omar or Rashida Tlib would say. So does that mean that everyone who is a strong supporter of Israel is owned by Israel and AIPAC?

              1. That sounds like a leftist false equivalency. Not that it matters to you, but I support Israel’s right to exist. In fact, I believe they have been more passive than they should against Palestine. My concern has to do with American influence. So swing and a miss on the comparison there, champ.

                Here’s some reading for you if you care to challenge your assumptions.

  18. Catch and release is de facto amnesty. Illegals don’t show up to their court hearings but they do show up at the welfare office.

  19. Our country’s security and future hangs in the balance while politicians play politics. This whole mess should’ve been handled before Nov. 2018, but “our” representation is beholden to their donors, and they like having the issue so they can lie to you every election year.

      1. That sounds like a good idea. Until you look around and try to find that many honest politicians who will keep their word. They all sound so good on the campaign trail…

      2. And what of the voters? They can be primaried with good people but ultimately it’s up to an uninformed electorate who votes for personalities over policies.

        1. The voters are ultimately responsible for their vote. People who have time to shop on-line for hours, or spend hour upon hour parked in front of a television to watch whatever sport is on but don’t have time to find out a few facts about the people for whom they will vote.

          Voting for the letter after a name or from information gathered on Twitter is so common it’s frightening.

          Not to mention the mind-set that has been embedded by the liberal education propaganda that infests our schools. Lots of blame to go around.

          1. Indeed there is. It’s a shame that we take this country and its founding principles for granted because tribalism, etc. (By “we” I don’t mean present company.)

          2. Oh heck my son works with a professional woman in her 40’s who voted for Beto because she thought he looked good and saw his name a lot. She didn’t even know Ted Cruz was her incumbent Senator. It’s hard to fight that level of stupidity.

            1. @paladin – It’s impossible to fight that level of stupidity. When someone tells me crap like that I just respond by telling them to do us all a favor an stop voting. Voting while ignorant is unforgivable.

              I’ve voted for more than one POS over the years but it wasn’t because I didn’t know what they were. It’s that the other POS was worse. I wish we had better choices but I always try to vote for the least worst.

              1. @kenoshamarge My son told the woman publicly that she would vote for Satan if he had a pretty face and nice signs because she doesn’t bother to find out their positions. Could have gone bad for him but the rest of the work group which was all forty and fifty year olds heard him, turned to the woman and said “You did what?!” She was so busy fending them off I think she forgot my son started it.

    1. Regarding our do nothing politicians on the matter:

      While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies.

      His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

      “Welcome to heaven,” says St. Peter. “Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”

      “No problem, just let me in,” says the man.

      “Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”

      “Really, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,” says the senator.

      “I’m sorry, but we have our rules.”

      And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

      Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.

      They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.

      Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.

      Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises…

      The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter

      is waiting for him.

      “Now it’s time to visit heaven.”

      So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

      “Well, then, you’ve spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.”

      The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: “Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.”

      So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

      Now the doors of the elevator open and he’s in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.

      He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

      The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. “I don’t understand,” stammers the senator. “Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there’s just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?”

      The devil looks at him, smiles and says,

      “Yesterday we were campaigning…… Today you voted.”

      1. @Democrats Good one! Glad you didn’t tell the similar one about Clinton and Lewandowski.

      1. A serious question deserves an answer…not an opinion.
        PS–I know they have the power to fund…that wasn’t my question.

        1. @pybop
          Ok, I slapped myself & grabbed another coffee!!!

          I “believe” once money is allocated, he can’t do anything (re defunding Sanctuary Cities) but someone on here must know more.

            1. @dr-strangelove
              I can’t remember all the details but I think it had to do with the money given to states had to state “specifically” what it could not be used for.
              I’d really have to look it up, but it’s a disgrace that we are forced to pay for any of this.

    1. @pybop Congress holds the purse strings, of course, but it seems like there should be something that he could do. We need entitlement reform across the board, not just for illegals.

        1. @pybop Type @ with the handle, no spaces. Sometimes suggestions come up. It probably works better on a computer.

  20. Perhaps the Border Patrol are overwhelmed but that does not excuse them for letting the invaders lose on American soil. I applaud their hard work but it’s time to deport the invaders as soon as their picked up.

    1. When you have nowhere to house them, there’s no other option since their boss is telling them to follow protocol; especially if they’re women and children. SMH

        1. Catch and release has been going on for who knows how long… since Bush 43. Now, Congress needs to step up.

          1. @ciceroni-excogitatoris
            Sorry, should have made my question clearer.

            There was “something” in this bill allowing more undocumented to be released within the US & transported “by DHS” (at OUR expense, of course) to Phoenix, Tucson, El Paso, etc, etc. I’d have to actually go back & read the bill.

            I “believe” CBP said only 3 or 8% will show up for court. That’s published by CBP in one of their documents as well.

    1. @tracy I guess that all of the headless bodies just across the border were his first clue?

  21. I don’t blame ICE at all for being upset, all the delays is BS. Pres. Trump needs to get this mess fixed now , stop playing games with Congress, we already know they don’t give a rats behind.

    1. Would really hate to see them resigning en masse (that’s one way to obliterate ICE) because THIS is not why anyone signs up for law enforcement.

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