Krauthammer: Ron Paul’s misunderstanding of history is simply staggering

Krauthammer cites a comment from the last debate where Ron Paul argued that we should pick up the phone and call Iran just as Kennedy did with Khrushchev during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Yet Krauthammer says it didn’t happen that way at all and proceeds to recite what did happen and finishes by saying that Ron Paul’s misunderstanding of history is simply staggering:



It’s really true that Ron Paul’s misunderstanding of history and even the present is sometimes completely false. Yesterday I posted a video where Ron Paul was citing Palestinian propaganda to substantiate his view that Israel had no right to put up a blockade around the Gaza Strip:

I think it’s absolutely wrong to prevent people that are starving and having problems that are almost like in concentration camps and saying “yes we endorse this whole concept that we can’t allow ships to go in there in a humanitarian way”.

I think it’s just terrible and I don’t think we should be part of it. Even though if we weren’t involved I would say nothing. So I think this would be a perfect opportunity to argue the case that, you know, “Israel, if you want to do this, you’re on your own. We’re not backing you up!”

We know this to be patently false yet this is what Ron Paul believes. It is as if he has to change his view of history and the present to fit his nutty isolationist foreign policy.

This is exactly why he won’t win the primary and Krauthammer is correct in saying that this is why he isn’t being attacked by others running for POTUS. He isn’t seen as a threat.

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Storris
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Storris

Haha, this guy is a fucking moron.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

George Bush says hold your breath. And don’t release.

Arizona Luke
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Arizona Luke

Ron Paul is clueless on pretty much EVERYTHING. Yes, this includes the Constitution.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If it is ANY consolation to you, any of the OTHER candidates are lloney tunes, too. NONE of their policies of prolonged, protracted warfare have worked. So what makes you think that we should NTO give Dr. Paul a try ?

Carol Jean Goodwin
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Carol Jean Goodwin

I remember that Cuban Misslie crisis quite well as I was a young mother and my husband was still in Navy reserves and was ready if he had been called up. It was scary for me and everyone we knew because Cuba was so close to us and any missiles would be capable of a lot more damage than the destruction of the twin towers. There may have been no actual telephone calls but there was a lot of communication between JFK and NK (Nikita Kruschev), which averted the crisis becoming a war. Kennedy didn’t just jump into declaring war on his own like someone you know. And BO wants to keep wars going! JFK stopped the threat by communicating instead of dropping bombs.

Mick's Media
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Would be interesting to see the Kraut King off his throne thrust into such a debate setting, as that which he sites Paul’s mispeaking. He combs through, trying to find grains of sand to use against Paul to support the status quo, which Paul threatens. If anyone bothers to get out of this pathetic soundbite culture and listen to/read Ron Paul’s positions, he might know Paul praised JFK’s actions in the CMC, as it was a “near attack”. But the point is not whether or not he “called” or “wrote” Kruschev. The point is there was diplomatic action taken alongside with the implied threat of war. This is missing in the hawk mentality that has hijacked US military policy. Not only is there is no “other superpower”, we are going to war against the vaguest of enemies. Being a Constitutionalist is not leftist. It is sage and more historically in… Read more »

Mick's Media
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Mick's Media

Because he used the word “called” when Baier and Bachmann are yelling at him inaccuracies, he has a misunderstanding of history? Laughable. Why don’t you take a look and read a book? http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Defined-Essential-Issues-Freedom/dp/145550145X

Mick's Media
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Mick's Media

Picking at the word “called” from a perch after combing. He was in the middle of a debate. Like to see CK off his perch debating under such considitions. Foxhead misunderstanding of his positions is simply staggering. Point is WAR should not be cronic behavior. Guess the Constitution’s “leftist” to you hawks. He has praised JFK’s actions in the CMC. This soundbite culture is pathetic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRdCC11o0rA&feature=youtu.be&t=7m50s

Anonymous
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Anonymous

“Ron Paul was citing Palestinian propaganda to substantiate his view that Israel had no right to put up a blockade around the Gaza Strip”

Funny people on the side of Palestine kept telling me things that were not true, and I debunked everyone of them beside Israel going after Flotilla in international waters.

Yet the Flotilla Told Egypt Shortly before the flotilla said they are heading to Gaza and planned to break the Blockade (Because Egypt offered to take the goods in for them, the flotilla said, “No!”.

http://lazyignorantamericans.blogspot.com/2010/06/ignorant-people-believe-what-they-want.html

Mark Adam
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The only thing nuttier than Ron Paul’s foreign policy views is our current foreign policy views including all the other Republican candidates who are promising to start another war and bomb Iran. Endless war is one of the best tools the Big Government lovers have to distract and make loyal those serfs who would otherwise be paying attention the Statists. But you have one Republican after another saying Bomb, Bomb, BOMB! And the Democrats are all for it; have you noticed their mouths are all shut since obummer took office regarding war?

flapjackdis
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Is this the United States of America or the United States of Israel? If Jews want to build a country just for Jews in the middle of Arab/muslim country by displacing the majority population, why should we as a Christian (non-Jewish) nation give a rat’s arse what kind of trouble they have? Let them fight their own battles and let me keep my money. You libs who give away every dime for bleeding heart causes are free to donate to Israel as you see fit – as individuals. Get your hands out of my wallet!

LEL817
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The Jews didn’t displace anybody. It wasn’t arab-muslim and it wasn’t a country but a territory controled by the British and the ottoman empire before that. Israel was Jewish thousands of years before the existence of islam and the arab conquest. Furthermore there already was an arab country created in the territory of palestine, Jordan. You are as ignorant of history as your pathetic hero ron paul. Israel always does fight its own battles, in multiple wars, creep. We have NEVER gone to war for Israel. Meanwhile we have fought multiple wars for muslims which had nothing to do with our own national security, such as bombing the Christian Serbs on behalf of the kosovo muslims, Somalia, Libya, the first gulf war to save Kuwait and saudi arabia. Why did we fight for these wretched nations? And we did so without cries from scoundrels like yourself of an insidious muslim… Read more »

LEL817
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LEL817

This is a Judeo-Christian nation. There would be no Christianity without Judaism. Where is your concern for the plight of Christians in islamic nations? And where is your similar outrage that we spend billions and have thousands of troops stationed in England, Germany, Japan and South Korea to protect those nations? Meanwhile Israel doesn’t need American troops to protect it, they defend themselves with their own soldiers. But its funny that its only Israel and not those countries which makes you hot under the collar. And furthermore, liberals are anti-Israel. Ron Paul and his supporters have more in common with the left than conservatives.

MuffLover
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MuffLover

Ron Paul is a flipping whack job. He need a larger dose of Thorazine and Haladol.

Arin Adamson
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Arin Adamson

It’s funny how krauthammer and all of his minions above say Ron Paul knows nothing about history, but when you actually look it up Kennedy had 6 initial steps in his plan for the Cuban missile crisis: 1.No action. 2.Diplomacy: Use diplomatic pressure to get the Soviet Union to remove the missiles. 3.Warning: Send a message to Castro to warn him of the grave danger he, and Cuba were in. 4.Blockade: Use the US Navy to block any missiles from arriving in Cuba. 5.Air strike: Use the US Air Force to attack all known missile sites. 6.Invasion: Full force invasion of Cuba and overthrow of Castro. Notice that diplomacy is first and should always be first. You should always be willing to negotiate in a diplomatic way, before using force, sanctions or blockades. As of today that is not our policy and it is taking us down a very dark… Read more »

Bernard B Carman
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Bernard B Carman

i’ve been at work all day, but a friend of mine had some time to investigate and send me this: Near as I can tell Kennedy and Khruschev did NOT negotiate by phone BECAUSE of limitations at the time … there was NO HOTLINE then but one was installed later afterwards this crisis. Our telephones then could not connect, plus the difficulties of spontaneous translation, for the record purposes, etc, the phone was not a chosen method BUT INTENSE NOEGOTIATIONS THROUGH URGENT DIPLOMATIC LETTERS, hand carried to Embassies were relied upon instead.   Today we have a policy of NOT-Negotiating, nothing like what Kennedy and Khruschev relied upon in the Cuban Missile Crisis … so what if they didn’t actually utilize a phone, I’m sure they would’ve if the could’ve. The talking head only wants to deceive the masses by technically pointing out a trivial “truth” (phones were not available then… Read more »

grizzlybear71
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“Even if it were desirable, America is not strong enough to police the world by military force. If that attempt is made, the blessings of liberty will be replaced by coercion and tyranny at home. Our Christian ideals cannot be exported to other lands by dollars and guns. Persuasion and example are the methods taught by the Carpenter of Nazareth, and if we believe in Christianity we should try to advance our ideals by his methods. We cannot practice might and force abroad and retain freedom at home.
We cannot talk world cooperation and practice power politics.”

–Rep. Howard Buffett (R-NE)

Anonymous
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Here is the complete history that Krauthammer does not say. A bunch of Diaspora Jews got together in Europe around the late 19th Century and decided that they all need to return to their religious heritage homeland, which I will call Palestine (it was part of the Ottoman Empire). The movement they form was called Zionism. However, other people actually lived on the land, had farms and businesses, etc.. It was a mix of Christians, Jews and Muslims. Probably some others also. Along comes WWI and the Ottoman Empire loses big time. The Great Powers, read winners, divide up the Ottoman Empire. France and Britain get some land and people to manage and exploit. As part of this deal the Zionists bitched and moaned they need a homeland. Since the wealthiest bankers in Britain were the Rothchilds of the Jewish faith, British PM Sir Balfour promised the Zionist movement it… Read more »

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

The “Islamists” actually learned it from Black September, the PLO and others who learned the “Bombcraft” from the tender ministrations of the Komitet gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti.

Do you have sources to back up your claims that Israel started the Six Day War? I suppose you believe that it was an Israeli sub that attacked the USS Cole with a cruise missile as well.

Anonymous
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A review of the information by Eric Margolis is provided here. Truth is hard to ferret out. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I tend to take anything from Rockwell with a huge slab of salt, however I did read it and it only contains an unsubstantiated assertion. USS Liberty was in an area where there was a high risk of incident, the officers and crew knew this, as did those that ordered her into that area. The “incident” was indeed tragic and whether it was deliberate or accidental, I do not believe that we will ever get a satisfactory answer, at least one that will satisfy all concerned.

As an aside, here is something to consider about Rockwell;
http://reason.com/archives/2008/01/16/who-wrote-ron-pauls-newsletter

LEL817
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First of all, Jews didn’t just appear in the 19th century, they had always been there. And half of Israel’s population consists of Middle Eastern Jews who descent from those who got kicked out of arab countries.

The land of Palestine was virtually desolate in the 19th century. Jews built up the land and the Arabs migrated as a result.

Anonymous
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“The land of Palestine was virtually desolate in the 19th century. Jews built up the land and the Arabs migrated as a result.” What is your source for this?

Bernard B Carman
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Bernard B Carman

also, i must point out an obvious flaw in this article: Ron Paul is NOT an “isolationist” — he is a “non-interventionist”, just like Thomas Jefferson and just like the US Constitution’s tenants mandate.

if you want to go to war, do it LEGALLY and have specific victory conditions, rather than continuing to wage ENDLESS WARS!

Neo-Cons & Neo-Coms need to GET A GRIP on all this. what is “anti-American” is DISOBEYING the US Constitution — any TRUE “Conservative” ought to know this!!!

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Please point out where you find “Non-Intervention” by name or concept within the text of the US Constitution, article and section please.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

Ron Paul is an anti-American, anti-Semitic nut job.

That is not some opinion based on opposing politics or political agenda. It’s a fact gleaned from his own words and should be plainly obvious to anyone who has two functioning brain cells to rub together.

Why conservatives give him and his supporters the constant benefit of the doubt is why this country is doomed.

Bernard B Carman
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Bernard B Carman

am i being censored here? i posted, saw it, not it’s gone. please advise…

MayflowerCompact
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MayflowerCompact

It’s Disqus i believe. It happens to me all the time that is why I do not participate here much.

Bernard B Carman
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Bernard B Carman

actually, it was mostly my mistake. i’m used to forums like this defaulting to “newest posts first”. when i posted my comment, i saw it at the top, then when the page refreshed, it placed it at the bottom.

i believe it would work better if the site defaulted to “newest first”. no problem — i’m just glad it wasn’t a matter of censorship! cool

Bernard B Carman
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Bernard B Carman

i recall Ron Paul saying in the recent Iowa “debate” that we should TRY diplomacy first, before we just rush into waging more UN-Constitutional wars. of course, the media consistently misdirects attention away from many of Ron Paul’s actual stances on various issues — be it the “war on drugs”, the “war on poverty”, or the “war on terrorism”. while the ONLY area i find any disagreement whatsoever with Ron Paul, is regarding his apparent believe that the ONLY reason why the Islamist terrorists hate us is because of our interference in the Middle East. while i KNOW our interference there has aggravated their hatred for us, it is inaccurate to say that NONE of them hate us for ONLY ONE reason. the fact remains that their “holy book” does instruct its followers to adopt the protocol of “accept Islam or die”. of course, certainly not each and every Muslim… Read more »

Dr. K
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Sadaam Hussein had PLENTY of opportunity to avoid war with United States and chose to thumb his nose at us in defiance. All credible intelligence indicated that Iraq had WMD. Even the democrats concurred. The country was in a high anxiety place after 9-11 and action had to be taken to prevent another 9-11 attack. What George Bush did was killed 2 birds with one stone. He eliminated the perceived Iraq threat, captured Sadaam and chose the site for the main battle with the terrorists…Iraq. The patience for diplomacy, at the time, was not going to go on indefinitely. Ron Paul is a nut. Anyone who really studies the man’s history and legacy will see that he has a lot of good things to say and also some kooky stuff. It doesn’t help his case at all that he looks old and kooky and frail. In the age of HDTV…the… Read more »

Patrick O'Callaghan
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It seems that your understanding of US interventionism does not extend beyond 2003. First, I assume you’re aware of the US supporting Hussein’s rise in Iraq to temper the Iranian presence in the region, supplying him with chemical and biological weapons with which to wage his 8-year war against Iran. But of course Iran deserved to be attacked right? After all, they did take all those US hostages in 1979 before the formation of the Islamic Republic. Yes, that’s true, but if you go back further to 1953 when the CIA supported a coup (TPAJAX Project) to oust the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh and install the authoritarian Shah of Iran, you’ll begin to understand how years of oppression caused the locals to get a teeny bit angry with their Western puppet. US intervention led to the Islamic Republic in Iran, and a 22-year dictatorship in Iraq. Of course… Read more »

Dr. K
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For God’s sake son…look at the man? He looks like a feeble, frail kook! You yak a lot but obviously have no understanding of the age of television. You have to exude a presence of leadership to stand a chance. Michelle Bachman comes across as more of a man than RP! He is just too much on the fringe to have a chance of becoming president. You paulbots are all kooks too! You can’t see the obvious…it’s not going to happen. The only thing he will probably do is siphon off just enough national votes as a third party candidate to assure 4 more years of the Marxist. If you really cared about the nation you would not waste a vote and allow that to happen. 4 years of Mitt Romney, who has a long record of turning companies and the 2002 Olympics around from bankruptcy to profitability, is the… Read more »

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

THEN declare ware LEGALLY by the dictates of the US Constitution!

1. Please cite by article and section, the Constitutional “dictates” for declaring war.
2. Again by citing article and section, where the Constitution dictates the form of what precisely a declaration of war is supposed to look like.

grizzlybear71
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There is no “dictate” for war in the Constitution, but Article I, Section 8 does say “The Congress shall have power to declare war.” No such powers are specified for the Executive and Judicial branches.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Nor is there found in the Constitution, a “formula” for declaring war or to defining what constitutes a declaration of war. If the President goes to Congress and asks them for the authority to “go to war” and Congress votes to authorize it, the requirements of the Constitution, namely Article 1 Section 8, have been fulfilled.

grizzlybear71
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Reposted from a member at The Daily Paul named Iranian_For_Ron_Paul: Just wanted to send you my greetings and utmost respect from Tehran, Iran. Many people follow the US politics closely here. Dr. Pauls message of liberty and freedom is truly contagious. Since Iran seems to be at the center of the foreign policy debate, perhaps hearing a perspective from inside Iran would be interesting for you and hopefully grounds for some fruitful discussion. The threat of a foreign attacks on Iran has been a gift to the dictators running our country ever since the revolution of 1979. They have used foreign threats to justify the police state and the crack downs on any democratic movement. An actual attack of Israel or the US will only force the Iranian population to reluctantly support the government against foreign aggressors. That is what happened after Saddam Hussein attacked Iran in 1980 with the… Read more »

Dr. K
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Dr. K

What a crock of horse$hit.

Is_Sense_Common
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Is_Sense_Common

Every once in awhile CK nails it. I also think RP will sink his own ship – the other candidates just need to let him keep talking about Foreign NonPolicy and he’s toast. It’s staggering to me that so many are willing to either overlook or defend his foreign nonpolicy in order to champion his fiscal policy. Who’s nuttier? RP or the ones who support him?

Constance
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I simply do not understand the mental functioning of people who continue to support Ron Paul. I really don’t. It’s like a weird religious cult. He could personally light a group of starving African children on fire and proclaim it was because of the United States’ foreign policy, and his followers would jump up and down in agreement and then threaten the rest of us they would vote for him or nobody in 2012. It’s astounding stupidity.

Jason siejutt
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Why is everything about War with the anti Paul People? Wake and smell the coffee the pundits don’t want Paul to get elected because of the threat of a president that wants sound money and sound fiscal policy’s. did you ever notice they never go after his monetary policy’s?? This use Pauls views of foreign policy’s as a means to discredit him. Look he’s not even leading the race and they want to discredit him.

Look what they did the Herman Cain. He’s no Paul but he posed a different threat. The media destroyed him.

Dr. K
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Dr. K

A voice of reason in a dreary wasteland of Paulbots!

Federico Ruiz
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Federico Ruiz

Well, I guess Paul was talking about the Kremlin-White House hotline that was installed after the incident.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Like Obama and his band of revolutionaries, Ron Paul doesn’t care one hoot about history so why should he worry about whether he’s right or wrong about some fact?

Whether some ancient missile crisis was averted through a telephone call or by carrier pigeon doesn’t matter in the least to someone who is hungry for power today.

When Paul mis-characterizes some fact from history or when he plainly distorts facts regarding Iran in the present AND the effect is to rouse his followers to greater enthusiasm, then what he said is better than history.

An amoral, self-righteous character like Ron Paul is a more dangerous to the future of western civilization than the pretender, Obama, who is merely stupid.

kong1967
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kong1967

I don’t view him as a threat, either. However, he’s putting up some pretty impressive numbers. They will shrink when the “not Ron Paul” votes consolidate.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Ron Paul is also grossly ignorant about Islamic history. He should be aware of the fact that Islam sanctions and mandates warfare against all unbelievers (chapter 9 verse 5), that its founder (Muhammad) declared war on all unbelievers for all time, and that Muslims have consistently engaged in aggressive warfare against unbelievers (non-stop) since the 7th century.

It’s just a sad fact that Ron Paul has a liberal (ignorant) foreign policy.

Patrick O'Callaghan
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Hi, I’m really not that well read on the teachings of the Quran and Mohammed, but having spend the last 7 years living in Muslim countries, I think that even if the Quran encourages war such as you described, it just doesn’t translate to the general population. They’re just normal people putting bread on the table, much like you I’d assume. Please don’t confuse the power-hungry with honest people. They exist in all countries and walks of life, and they use fear to gather and maintain support, much like the US government. There are people in Iran and elsewhere who understand that the aggression aimed at them by the US does not reflect the views of ordinary citizens. Why don’t you come and live here for a while; you’d love it!

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Anonymous

You’re making the mistake of saying “I know some Muslims who are peaceful, so therefore Islam is peaceful”. The standard of whether the ideology is peaceful has to be dependent on what it sanctions and mandates, how Muslims have acted throughout Islamic history, and on what its founder (Muhammad) did and said. If you do this, then there is no other option other than to declare that Islam is and has always been an incredibly violent ideology that sanctions and mandates warfare against unbelievers. Yes, many Muslims today are “peaceful”, but you have to take into consideration that Western civilization is at a major advantage (militarily, economically, technologically) compared with Islamic civilization, and that if Muslims were as violent/warlike as they were in the 7th-17th centuries, then the West would obliterate all Islamic states, leaving them utterly defeated. Muslims KNOW they cannot beat us ‘the old ways’, which is why… Read more »

Winston
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Winston

Ru Paul needs to retire and keep quiet. He is way too old for politics…

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Mabye Kennedy sent Khrushchev a “re-set” button with a happy face on it.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

The real history of Kennedy / Krushev, by Ron Paul:

Look, the “phone call” was really a message sent via Tesla’s experimental low frequency transmitter, buried in Manhattan. Unfortunately, the only way the Roooskies could understand it was by drinking lethal amounts of vodka, and putting their heads in a well.

This is why warmongering NeoCons must be pushed into the sea.

I mean, why our pursuit of endless war on the poor muslims, who are only killing monk– ahh, I mean non-Palestinians, must stop, and be replaced by turning our backs, while the nice men of Hamas “straighten up” over there.

No wait, I mean it’s why we can’t have nice things.

Ron Paul 2012!! Because a Jewish banker is a terrible thing.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I do care about foreign policy. I just think that getting our fiscal house in order is a precondition for us to even continue to have a debate about how we choose to exercise our military might in the world.

kong1967
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kong1967

We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

George Gallo
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A fallacy. We are broke and will not turn that around for a long time. Even broke we could kite that problem another decade. However we could lose the equilibrium of the world in six months and especially when we have a dufus like Obama or Paul that nobody would take seriously. I don’t see how the lid has not already blown off our complacency, especially now that we have pleaded with Pukemadinnerjacket for the drone instead of zapping it.

Sean Johnson
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Sean Johnson

Any true libertarian would support Gary Johnson and not this racist nutbag Paul. Reason Magazine smoked out this lunitic long ago. If anything, Paul hurts libertarians as much as he does Republicans.

Winston
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Winston

Amen…

kong1967
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kong1967

You know, I never thought of it like that. I like Johnson. I wouldn’t vote for him, but he’s not a nut-bag like Ron Paul.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Apparently Mr. Paul doesn’t want to answer questions about his newsletters anymore. Here’s a link to a video where he walked out of an interview with a CNN reporter:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ron-paul-gets-irked-by-newsletter-questions-walks-out-of-gloria-borger-interview/

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Ask yourself – are you siding with the media? He went over the same thing over and over during the 08 race. The sole purpose of this was to smear him. It’s fair to ask him again – but Wolfe and crew have asked him about 10 times now this cycle and it’s wearing thin. Annoyingly so. I don’t blame him. Even when he walked out though – he handled her with class. She was outright nasty. Disgusting person.

Brian Drolet
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Remember, Ron Paul was also the only candidate who showed a modicum of class while the media was tearing down Herman Cain, openly saying that the media and voters shouldn’t be concerned with tawdry sexual harassment allegations, but rather focus on Mr. Cain’s policy. If we assume that the sentences or phrases so often cited in these newsletters remain as racist as they appear when read in the context of the entire article from which they’re pulled (which doesn’t seem to be the case) AND that Ron Paul either wrote these articles himself or fully endorsed the racism they are purported to support, there still remains no hint of racism in any of the bills Ron Paul has sponsored or in speeches he’s given in the entire length of his 30+ year political career. So either Ron Paul is not a racist after all, or he’s a racist who doesn’t… Read more »

Dr. K
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Dr. K

Either RP knew about and endorsed the racist comments in his newsletter that he profitted from or he is a poor leader who can’t control his own stuff. Take your pick.

Dr. K
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Dr. K

He acted like a baby! Every candidate in the field gets grilled over and over about the same things! RP is no different than he rest and should be a man and take the heat. Talk about a thin skin!! Obama and the dems would bury him!!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Heat is one thing, disrespect is another. You should check out who is winning against Obama in national polls. Mitt and Paul.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Did you watch the clip? Paul said that CNN has asked him about this two or three times in as much as a couple of days. Not to mention that he has answered it the same way to them and everyone else for twenty years. Anyone who watches this, and determines that he has avoided it, is just not watching him give the same answer many, many, many times. I understand that you want Paul to be a racist. You may want him to be “avoiding” this issue. Maybe people should be asking themselves why this is the only thing that they can come up with, and is that the reason they harp on it so much? If so, how desperate is that? This only lends an image to Paul that is favorable in that the whole of the media and all of his competition can only come up with… Read more »

Vorlath
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Vorlath

“Maybe people should be asking themselves why this is the only thing that they can come up with,…”

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You know what I don’t understand is how people can think that this is a big deal, yet support Newt. The same people might claim to be conservatives, and then say that Newt’s support of the left and their interest in waging carbon taxes on the people was just a minor issue that doesn’t really matter. Or they might support Cain in waging a new tax on the people. Or Mitt, who approves of health insurance mandates. (but not at the federal level. want to trust him on that?) Or Santorum who wants to legislate morality and force people to be good. Or Bachman who thinks that the bill of rights should be suspended when Arab Muslims want to kill us. No worries. I’m sure that we will get one of them. If not, Obama will remain supreme dictator, and then pass on the barrel of the executive gun after… Read more »

Dr. K
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Dr. K

EVERY candidate gets asked the same questions many times over. Romney has explained his changing positions and healthcare issue many many times…I don’t see him storming out of interviews and crying.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

….and in a private interview when the question has been answered more than once in the same occurrence, and the interviewer won’t accept the answer that has been given on their network three times now in the last couple of days, I wouldn’t expect him to cow down.

Does ending the interview and taking off a mic justify using the term “stomping out”.

kong1967
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kong1967

Wow, he really didn’t like her bringing up his statement about blaming 9/11 on the Israeli’s. She became apologetic…why? She had every right to ask and he has a lot to answer for. He’s so proud of his positions but when he’s asked about them he’s like a little boy that wants to take his toys and go home.

Dr. K
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Dr. K

If RP cries and takes his ball home over a few media questions about a racist newsletter AUTHORED by him and one that HE PROFITTED from, how the hell would he stand up to the billion dollars of attacks and smear from the democrat party and media!! Can you say not only looks feeble but has a very thin skin?

Sean Johnson
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Sean Johnson

Ron Paul supporters (Paulbots) are a reststop toliet blend of OWS, Anarchist, 9/11 troofers, communist, KKK, and Neo-Nazi goons. They are united in their hatred of the JOOOOOOOOWWWWS or as they like to say “bankers”, “Neo-cons”, and “Zionist”. The liberal media has desided to hide his pearls of wisdom from his “News” letters because like Joseph Stalin thought with his little nut in Germany, they think they can use this nut to destroy their enemies. The media feels they can use this nut to destroy the republican primary at the least, and possibly get him into the election against Obungles. Once Paul gets the nomination, they will wallpaper our tv’s with his “News” letter that he didn’t write but signed (wink, wink). Paul will pull Obungles to the left on foreign policy since the left hates Israel as much as the Paulbots but Paul will also be easly defeated in… Read more »

Kris Smith
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Kris Smith

Do you really think that Anti-Capitalist OWS would side with Ron Paul…who is for the Free Market and is as pro-capitalist as anyone here? Give me a break!

Sean Johnson
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Sean Johnson

Paul admits his supporters are OWS in his interviews all the time. Any time OWS is brought up when he is interviewed, he says they are aginst the “Wal-Street JOOOOOOOOWWWS errr Bankers”. He endorced Cynthia McKinny! Queen of OWS.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7iGyksfp90

He also says the OWS people are going after the wrong target, and that government is where they should look. It not capitalism that is the problem, but corporate cronyism.

His comments have been consistent, and your assertions are wrong. Maybe you would like to provide some links as well.

George Gallo
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George Gallo

Cynthia McKinney, yet…Hah. A real pair!

George Gallo
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George Gallo

Ralph Nader and Ron Paul are a good fit. They have said so. We are doing an investigation to see where Paul’s funding is coming from, with the expectation it is the Alinsky left. Who else would benefit from pushing this unmarketable loon as a republican, or even better as a third party spoiler. Now the antidote to that is to hope the “America Elects” third party leftist candidate (not yet determined) arrives as a Spoiler spoiler party, and then we can tolerate this Ron Paul phenomenon.

Winston
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Winston

well-said!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I’m a Christian and none of the things you mentioned – yet I support Ron Paul. When you see the world as groups of people – most likely – you place yourself in a group also. The Lord sees you as an individual with individual rights that He himself has given you.
This is Ron Paul’s single greatest plank as he seeks the passage to office. I hope you can release your anger and see a broader picture.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The other candidates may not see Ron Paul as a threat, but I don’t think they should let his attacks go unanswered. Some people– the easily led, those who don’t know history and those who won’t bother to find out for themselves – will see this as an acknowledgement that Paul is correct.

Ron Paul’s lunacy needs to be exposed for what it is. We all know there is a chance that he will pull out a victory in Iowa. Then, even though he will lose NH, SC and Florida, will mount a third party challenge and throw the election to Obama. Remember, Ron Paul hasn’t ruled out a third party run. And do we really need him making yet another run in 2016?

Squash him NOW!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Wikipedia says that Kennedy and Khrushchev back channeled communications through a UN adviser. So a generalization of “making a phone call” for the purpose of making a point, was obviously the real crime here.

B-Funk
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B-Funk

I don’t think that’s the ‘crime’, per-say. I think it’s that Kennedy used a show of force to get Khrushchev to talk, and Paul skipped over that part. At least, that’s my understanding of what Krauthammer is saying…

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I was responding to the inference that Paul’s history was grossly inaccurate due to his “calling up Khrushchev” comment. I didn’t hear him make a point about Paul denying Kennedy’s forceful positioning. Leaving it out of a quick answer in a debate does not justify a statement that Paul denies it. There were probably a lot of details about the event that Paul didn’t mention.

B-Funk
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B-Funk

Ah, ok. Yah, I’m not really a fan of this type of debate for that reason. It’s hard to really know what someone’s thinking with 30-second responses.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I watched it again, and I see your point. There is one difference in that Iran is not a nuclear power, and we talk about invading them. Though Kennedy took aggressive action toward the Russian missile threat in Cuba, that was another country acting as an aggressor and directly putting the US in imminent harm. Which Paul has said that force would be justified in this case. With that said, I would admit that Russia, in this instance was not the best example because there is a stark difference between Russian then, and Iran now. Yet that was Paul’s original point. That Iran is not an imminent threat to the US, has no proven nuclear weapons, and is surrounded by countries that do. His point that we were able to communicate with Khrushchev to avoid war was correct. We did it through a UN proxy and through the back channels.… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I’ve often given pause to why Russia helps Iran with their nuclear ambitions. They are much closer to them and I would think – in their own self interest – they wouldn’t give Iran technology that could be turned around to be used on them.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The interesting thing is that Russia, and China have trade agreements with Iran. China is getting pretty jumpy about our threats toward Iran. They might just jump in if we push it. One of their generals just said as much.

I don’t see this Iran obsession as a worthy cause. I don’t believe much of what our government tells us. It seems that they have an agenda to make all Americans terrorist at home. The more threats we have, or they create, the more they can further the agenda.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

See – and therein is the real problem. We’ve been lied to and manipulated so many times by the government and the media – that we second guess everything. It’s a screwed up world.
Check this CNN broadcast out from the first Iraq war to back up my point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

Anonymous
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Anonymous

It’s Hollywood, baby. Can’t help but to laugh a bit. Oh yeah, the Pentagon Papers,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers (the end of the free press) Gulf of Tonkin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident, etc, etc, etc,.

You could spend a lifetime giving examples. So when they say, as Michelle Bachman did, “Iran almost has a Nuke, and is going to destroy Israel”, I say “really”? “Show me da proof”. They got caught with the underwear bomber as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXW1mea6sy4 This guy witnessed this guy getting on the plane and being assisted by a person who went on the plane with him. The state dept. cleared the way for him. Wikipedia tells about it as well.

Fast and furious. Nuff said.

Robin Rosenblatt
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Robin Rosenblatt

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JesBeard
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JesBeard

The form of communication in the exchange between Kennedy and Khrushchev is utterly irrelevant to the point Paul was making. Krauthammer, who I generally respect, seemingly latches onto the utterly irrelevant issue of the mode of the communication in order to ignore the important point Paul was making…. and which strongly undercuts Krauthammer’s support for considerable military intervention around the world.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Rep.Ron Paul(R-TX) is a Crackpot Pacifist Libertarian.

Kris Smith
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Kris Smith

Nothing wrong with being Libertarian. And he never said he was against war in all occasions, so I would hardly call him a pacifist. He did vote to go into Afghanistan, for one thing.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Not to invade a country, but to get the people responsible for 9/11. I’m sure you know this. Just thought I would throw it out there.

George Gallo
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George Gallo

Please apologize to the rational libertarians for including Ron Paul among them.

Tod Thompson
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Tod Thompson

Good point by Charles K. Ron Paul makes it sound like Kennedy and Kruschev had a nice little chat, when the reality is Kennedy took us to the very brink of war to get the Soviets to back down. It’s sad to me that we have become a country that is afraid to confront Iran. Ultimately we did negotiate with the Soviets, but the Soviets only listened because they believed we were serious about stopping them. Ron Paul’s stance is basically that it is not a big deal if Iran gets a nuke, which is unbelievable.

Tom Sambdman
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Tom Sambdman

RP believes in peace through diplomacy and free trade. He does not want Iran to get a nuke.

George Gallo
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George Gallo

Oh, stop putting words in his toothless mouth. Not wanting something, and knowing how to prevent it are not the same thing. And having the gumption to prevent it, and the people skills to persuade a nation to gird itself for the stress of doing what is needed are all things that individual has never displayed to any thinking person’s satisfaction.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

He believes as I do. That Iran won’t survive if they get one. Their neighbors won’t allow it. Therefor going to war without any proof of a weapon is over reaction to a problem created by political rhetoric rather than proof.

We knew that Russia had nukes, and they were becoming an imminent threat off of our coast line. Paul supports war under imminent threat. That is what the just war doctrine dictates as justification.

Vorlath
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Vorlath

Their neighbours won’t allow it? If they have nukes, who’s going to stop them? Nukes are different from other types of weapons. After Iran uses them, it’s too late to stop them. And Iran doesn’t care about what happens afterwards. For them, it would be the ultimate sacrifice to rid the planet of a nation of infidels.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Israel won’t allow it. We wouldn’t stop Israel from taking them out. At least RP wouldn’t. Obama might. Nobody wants Iran to have nukes.

Iran is like a bluffing bully. They know that they have no ability to do what their rhetoric proclaims. They also know that they will be the first to be nuked if they pose any real threat. Contrary to popular belief, they don’t have a total annihilation wish.

George Gallo
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George Gallo

Oh, so Tom knows exactly what Ron Paul believes and now Paulboy69 knows exactly what Urpmadinnerjacket believes. I am so relieved. This sounds like people who should be playing Farmville or The Sims instead of living a life.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

RP has stated such, and has supported Israel’s right in the past, when others didn’t.

Is it your belief that Iran has an annihilation wish? If they are so hell bent on taking out Israel, and they have a nuke, and they want to get destroyed, why are they waiting?

Dr. K
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Dr. K

Iraq did, why wouldn’t Iran? They’re dumber than you think.

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